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Ben Rhodes

The former White House adviser on eight years at President Obama’s side, what his old boss bottled up and how Putin and Trump are alike

In your book The World as It Is: A Memoir of the Obama White House, you seem to be more than the Deputy National Security Adviser or a speechwriter. What was your relationship with Barack Obama? I think by the end, we’d been through so many things together, all of his foreign travel and all of these intense crises, and you do

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