Experiencing the State of Immortality Without Ideation: Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 8
Written by J. Krishnamurti
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8. Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation - 7 August 1949.
• There is no mind without idea, thought and verbalization.
• There is no experiencer and the experience; there is only a state of
experiencing.
• One cannot think about immortality. If one can live in the state of only
experiencing then there is a state in which ideation has stopped altogether.
• Is it possible to have direct experience of that which is not thinkable and which
cannot be put into words?
• Q: Is there a way of knowing what is the truth about myself, without illusion or
self-deception?
• Q: Is effort a necessary preliminary to tranquillity?
• Q: I no longer suppress my thoughts and am I shocked by what sometimes
arises. Can I be as bad as that?
• Q: Why is it that certain undesirable conditions in oneself do not vanish as soon as they are observed?
• Q: Is the artist or musician engaged in a futile thing?
J. Krishnamurti
J. Krishnamurti (1895-1986) was a renowned spiritual teacher whose lectures and writings have inspired thousands. His works include On Mind and Thought, On Nature and the Environment, On Relationship, On Living and Dying, On Love and Lonliness, On Fear, and On Freedom.
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