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    Interview with Jesus: Humility Sessions 1-5
    Interview with Jesus: Humility Sessions 1-5
    Interview with Jesus: Humility Sessions 1-5
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    Interview with Jesus: Humility Sessions 1-5

    By Jesus (AJ Miller) and Mary Magdalene (Mary Luck)

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    Jesus describes what humility is, what it means to live in humility, how humility is essential for our spiritual progression, and how we resist humility.
    Document source filename: 20120905 Interview With Jesus - Mary Magdalene - Humility S01 To S05 (Combined).
    This ebook is a transcript of five interviews that took place between Jesus (AJ Miller) and Mary Magdalene (Mary Luck) on 14th June 2012 in Bathurst, Australia, and on 30th June 2012, 29th August 2012 and 5th September 2012 in Wondai, Queensland, Australia.

    LanguageEnglish
    PublisherDivine Truth Pty Ltd
    Release dateJan 11, 2013
    ISBN9781301464746
    Interview with Jesus: Humility Sessions 1-5

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      Interview with Jesus - Jesus (AJ Miller)

      Interview With Jesus:

      Humility

      By

      Jesus (AJ Miller) &

      Mary Magdalene (Mary Luck)

      Sessions 1-5

      Published by

      Divine Truth, Australia at Smashwords

      http://www.divinetruth.com/

      Copyright 2014 Divine Truth

      Smashwords Edition, License Notes

      Thank you for downloading this ebook. You are welcome to share it with your friends. This book may be reproduced, copied and distributed. If you enjoyed this book, please return to Smashwords.com to discover other works by this author. Thank you for your support.

      This ebook is a transcript of five interviews that took place between Jesus (also known as AJ Miller) and Mary Magdalene (also known as Mary Luck) on 14th June 2012 in Bathurst, Australia, and on 30th June 2012, 29th August 2012 and 5th September 2012 in Wondai, Australia on the subject of humility. In these interviews Jesus describes what humility is, what it means to live in humility, how humility is essential for our spiritual progression, and how we resist humility.

      Reminder From Jesus & Mary

      Jesus and Mary would like to remind you that any document produced by Divine Truth containing any information from Jesus, Mary or any other person includes only a portion of God's Truth that they have personally discovered.

      It does not and cannot contain the entire of God's Truth since God's Truth is infinite and humankind will forever continue to discover more of God's Truth as we progress in receiving more of God's Love.

      Please remember that due to these limitations information contained within this document may need to be revised in the future.

      Many other ebooks have been published by Divine Truth, including ebooks translated into a variety of different languages.

      Please visit http://www.Smashwords.com/profile/view/DivineTruth or www.divinetruth.com for further information.

      Additional sessions on the subject in this book can be found on www.Smashwords.com/profile/view/DivineTruth

      For more information go to:

      Divine Truth (www.divinetruth.com)

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      Table of Contents

      Part 1 - Humility Session 1 - Introduction to Humility

      1. Introduction

      2. The contrast between God’s definition of humility and the world’s definition of humility

      2.1. Humility is the passionate desire to feel and experience all of our emotions

      2.2. Humility is to see ourselves as God sees us

      2.3. True humility has no self-judgement or self-consciousness

      2.4. Humility takes its name from a Greek word meaning of the earth

      3. What it means to live in humility

      3.1. True humility honours God’s Love and God’s Truth above ourselves

      3.1.1. True humility doesn’t elevate or deprecate

      3.2. A truly humble person always examines themselves before others

      3.3. Humility honours God’s Laws and God’s Gifts

      3.4. A truly humble person is not invested in what everyone else is feeling

      4. Humility is the cornerstone of our spiritual development

      4.1. Humility is essential to establish a relationship with God

      4.2. Humility is the doorway to Divine Truth, and Divine Truth is the doorway to Divine Love

      4.3. Humility opens us up to change

      4.4. Humility does not try to manage or control emotion

      4.5. Humility allows us to connect to God

      5. The two stages of humility

      5.1. Becoming as humble as a child

      5.2. Becoming more humble than a child

      5.3. Humility is required to love others completely

      6. Closing Words

      Part 2 - Humility Session 2 - Humility in Practice I

      7. Introduction

      8. Receiving Divine Love depends upon our desire to experience all emotion

      8.1. Receiving Divine Love indicates we are in a state of humility

      8.2. Becoming humble is all we need to do for our spiritual growth

      8.2.1. Self judgement takes us further away from humility

      8.2.2. Investment in God’s opinion of us leads us to humility

      9. Humility is a whole hearted desire to feel and experience all of our emotions

      9.1. Longing for God’s Love above every other experience leads us to humility

      9.2. If we honour God’s Love above all other things we are not afraid to confront the error surrounding us

      9.2.1. If we are truly humble we are willing to look foolish and stupid to others

      9.3. If we are truly humble we never attempt to shut down or dampen our emotional experience

      9.3.1. If we are truly humble we embrace our terror when it arises

      9.4. If we are truly humble we will never get angry or afraid about feeling our emotions

      9.5. If we are truly humble we do not feel we’re losing things by choosing the Divine Love Path

      9.5.1. When we’re humble we see which of our relationships have substance

      10. Receiving Divine Love depends upon our willingness to take responsibility for and release all error inside of us

      10.1. When we’re humble we do not seek validation or permission to feel from others

      10.2. When we’re humble we do not blame others for our pain and suffering

      10.3. Taking responsibility involves desiring to experience the Law of Compensation

      10.4. Taking responsibility involves desiring to experience causal emotions

      10.5. Taking responsibility involves abandoning anger, justifications, minimisations and denial

      10.6. Taking responsibility involves desiring to feel our fear about becoming a trusting child again

      10.7. Questions to ask ourselves to identify how willing we are to be humble and to take responsibility for our errors

      11. Closing Words

      Part 3 - Humility Session 3 - Humility in Practice II

      12. Introduction

      13. Humility is essential to connect with God and God’s Truth

      13.1. Humility is a willingness to be overwhelmed by our emotions and by God’s emotions

      13.2. Humility is a willingness to see ourselves as God sees us

      13.3. Humility is a willingness to make mistakes and be open to new ideas

      13.4. Humility is a whole hearted desire to feel and experience all emotion

      13.5. Humility is a desire to feel ourselves and God above all other things

      13.6. Humility is a willingness to take responsibility for, experience and release all error within us

      14. Working through emotional blockages to humility

      15. Divine Love can only flow when we are willing to be as we truthfully are

      15.1. Working through the façade self and discovering the injured and real selves

      15.1.1. An example of being humble when we discover anger within ourselves

      15.2. Humility encompasses ethics and morality

      15.3. Humility is seeing God’s perception of ourselves - an illustration from the Bible

      16. Humility is a willingness to be taught by God

      16.1. An example of the Law of Attraction operating in Western society vs. in poor countries

      16.1.1. The Law of Attraction can occur in a loving or harsh way

      16.2. God teaches us through other people, spirits and nature

      16.3. Being willing to be taught by God involves being emotionally open to God

      16.3.1. Going through the process of developing humility

      16.4. A humble person immediately puts into practice what they learn

      16.5. Becoming open to God teaching us

      17. Humility is the ability to receive both direct and indirect council

      17.1. Becoming sensitive to the Law of Attraction

      17.2. Becoming loving in an unloving environment

      18. Closing Words

      Part 4 - Humility Session 4 - Resistance to Humility I

      19. Why we find humility difficult

      19.1. Reason 1: Self-reliance

      19.2. Reason 2: Feeling unable to cope with overwhelming emotion

      19.2.1. Not feeling our emotions creates an openness to being manipulated

      20. How we resist humility: arrogance

      20.1. Arrogance prevents openness to new ideas

      20.2. God’s Truth about arrogance

      20.3. The difficulty of releasing arrogance

      21. How we resist humility: the false ego

      21.1. Why the false ego state is attractive to maintain

      21.2. Reasons for our investment in the façade self

      21.2.1. The analogy of our soul lighting fires

      21.3. How to break down the façade with courage, integrity and honesty

      22. How we resist humility: judgement and criticism

      22.1. The example of Divine Truth being labelled a cult by the media

      22.2. Reasons that we judge

      22.3. Judgement blocks Divine Truth and Divine Love

      23. How we resist humility: denial

      23.1. The three main types of denial: justification, minimisation and shifting the blame

      23.2. Denial of God’s Laws

      23.2.1. An example of denying the truth about abortion

      23.2.2. An example of denying the truth about eating meat

      23.3. Resistance to humility creates hypocrisy

      23.4. Reasons we are invested in staying in denial

      24. How we resist humility: anger with others

      24.1. How to release anger

      24.1.1. Anger results from pain in the past that we haven’t released

      25. How we resist humility: hatred and resentment

      25.1. Gender differences in the expression of hatred

      25.2. How to work through emotions of hatred and resentment

      25.3. Hatred can be caused by feelings of superiority in addition to feelings of powerlessness

      26. Closing Words

      26.1. A lack of humility eventually creates our own death

      26.2. The importance of humility

      Part 5 - Humility Session 5 - Resistance to Humility II

      27. Introduction

      28. How we resist humility: living in fear

      28.1. Living in fear prevents desire and happiness

      28.2. Living in fear supports the maintenance of false beliefs

      28.3. People in a complete state of love never respond in fear

      28.4. Fear is not real from God’s perspective

      28.4.1. An example of a boy who’s in a violent situation

      28.5. The stages involved in recognising and releasing our fear

      28.6. Addictions and false beliefs keep us from feeling our fear

      28.7. Taking action challenges our fears

      28.7.1. Releasing fear involves softening into fear, rather than conquering it

      28.7.2. Desires can draw us through our fear

      29. How we resist humility: doubt

      29.1. Doubt is created by a lack of humility to fear, and is triggered by taking action

      29.1.1. An example of a couple having arguments

      29.2. Erroneous societal beliefs about doubt

      29.2.1. Children learn rapidly because they are not in a state of doubt

      30. How we resist humility: seeking power, position, glory, respect or value

      30.1. An example of musicians seeking glory and attention

      30.1.1. The effects of seeking power, glory and attention on other people

      30.2. How to release injuries surrounding seeking power, glory and attention

      30.2.1. An example of family members seeking power, glory and respect

      31. How we resist humility: jealousy

      31.1. Emotions that drive jealousy

      31.2. Acknowledging our jealousy and other dark emotions

      31.3. Jealousy can be about our perceptions rather than reality

      32. How we resist humility: commiseration

      32.1. Commiseration results from not wanting to take personal responsibility for our creations

      32.2. Commiseration creates stagnation

      32.3. Differences between commiseration and compassion

      33. How we resist humility: false humility

      33.1. Emotions that drive false humility

      33.2. If we’re truly humble our lives will change

      33.3. True humility feels edgy, uncomfortable and like being alive

      33.4. Differences between humility and false humility

      34. Closing Words

      34.1. AJ describes his personal experiences in becoming humble

      34.2. The relationship between humility, truth and love

      34.2.1. The importance of humility

      Appendices

      Appendix 1: Humility Session 1 Outline

      Appendix 2: Humility Session 2 Outline

      Appendix 3: Humility Session 3 Outline

      Appendix 4: Humility Sessions 4-5 Outline

      Part 1 - Humility Session 1 - Introduction to Humility

      1. Introduction

      Mary: Welcome everyone today. I'm going to be interviewing my beautiful soulmate, Jesus, on the topic of humility. We're in windy Bathurst at the moment for part 1, of what will be a five part series of interviews on humility. I'm quite excited to do this interview. It's a really beautiful topic, and hopefully it's a topic where we can deepen people's understanding about just what is humility, and what it means to live in humility. [00:00:54.06]

      AJ: Yeah, I've noticed that a lot the material that is on YouTube about humility doesn't get watched very much, which is interesting in itself, as humility is one of the most important qualities that we can personally develop that will assist us in our relationship with God. [00:01:12.16]

      Mary: Yeah, that's something I'd like to talk to you about later on in the interview, just how that happens and why it's so important. I suppose it is something that we talk about a lot. There are one or two specific presentations that you've given about it, but beyond that, you and I both mention being humble or humility quite a lot, and I actually think it's something that's quite poorly understood, in terms of in society, and often this state of humility is ridiculed, isn't it? [00:01:45.08]

      AJ: Yes it's viewed as a state of weakness. And unfortunately for people who are attempting to spiritually progress, humility is not very high on their wish list of qualities to develop. But it's the most essential quality to develop in our relationship with God. One of the things that we often comment about in our private life is the need for more humility, in order to experience emotion. The only way to experience emotion, causal emotion, is to be humble to it, to actually have the quality of humility so much that as soon as you feel the emotion, you actually experience it. [00:02:25.12]

      2. The contrast between God’s definition of humility and the world’s definition of humility

      Mary: Yeah. Well maybe we can just go back a bit and just talk about the actual definition of humility. I thought initially I would really like to just present some of the world's definitions of humility. They're actually dictionary definitions that I found today, so perhaps if I could go through a few of them and then ask you what your definition is, or what a true definition is. [00:02:48.04]

      AJ: Yeah, sure.

      Mary: Okay, so the first few that I looked up said that humble is not proud or arrogant, modest, having a feeling of insignificance, low in rank, status or quality, showing deference or submission and being conscious of one's failings. And very often in the synonyms it was related to humiliation. I feel that these kinds of definitions are often what comes up for people when we mention the word humility, or being humble, especially in general society. [00:03:42.10]

      AJ: Yeah, if we relook at the first few definitions, where it says not being arrogant, that is very true. That is a part of humility. But then it goes on to low in rank, status and quality, all of those things are not true, they're not a part of being humble, and they're not a part of humility. For that reason I've defined humility quite differently to what the dictionary does. [00:04:14.17]

      Mary: Okay so I found another one that I think is a little closer to the mark, so maybe we could hear that one and then hear exactly what you feel it is. So this one was; having a lack of false pride, unpretending, meek, defining characteristic of an unpretentious and modest person. Someone who does not think that he or she is more important than others, and free of illusions of self deception. [00:04:40.20]

      AJ: I would agree with all of those. They are all part of humility. So it's interesting how sometimes there are definitions that you can't agree with at all, with regard to humility and then other times there's definitions that you could say, Yes, all of those qualities are a part of the quality of humility. [00:04:56.12]

      2.1. Humility is the passionate desire to feel and experience all of our emotions

      AJ: In terms of my definition of it, humility is the passionate desire to feel and experience all of my own emotions, whether they are pleasurable or painful, without blaming or attempting to manipulate or control my environment in any way. We can see in that definition that it encompasses so many things but also, as part of that, we must submit to our own emotions, but we don't necessarily need to submit to everyone else's. So this whole idea of submission to somebody else is not really a part of humility. Another part of humility that is often thought is this whole idea of deprecating oneself, and making other people more important than oneself. That's very, very difficult to do with God's definition of humility, because the way God sees us is, that God sees us as the pinnacle of her creation, and if we are the pinnacle of her creation, then God doesn't want to make us lower than anything else. But, God also wants us to have a very clear understanding of our true state, and not a state that we would love to see ourselves being, which is a state of facade. [00:06:21.10]

      2.2. Humility is to see ourselves as God sees us

      Mary: So then humility isn’t just this desire to really experience all of our emotions, but it's also a desire to see ourselves as God sees us? [00:06:29.22]

      AJ: Exactly. To see ourselves as God, our creator sees us right at this moment. And then also to see ourselves as God sees us in terms of the pristine creation that God made, and our potentials and possibilities. So when we're humble we don't have an exalted opinion of ourselves, but we also don't have a terrible opinion of ourselves. In fact, once we become truly humble, it's almost like we don't have an opinion of ourselves at all. [00:07:02.00]

      2.3. True humility has no self-judgement or self-consciousness

      Mary: Or is it like we don't have a judgement of ourselves there?

      AJ: We don't have any judgements of ourselves but we don't think about ourselves very much at all, in the sense of having to think about ourselves in deference or in preference to others. And so we would be out of harmony with humility if we had either of those feelings. So, humility allows us to emotionally be ourselves in the moment without even having to think about ourselves in that moment. [00:07:33.23]

      Mary: So why is it that we don't have to think about ourselves in that moment? Because we're open to our feelings, or we're open to the truth that we are brothers and sisters? [00:07:42.19]

      AJ: Well, if we have the feeling inside of ourselves that we're already comfortable completely with ourselves and being ourselves, and surrounding other people, then there is no need to even think about ourselves anymore in a relationship with other people. All we do is interact with them based on our feelings and we don't think about those feelings, we just interact. If those feelings are refined and have been brought into harmony with love, then every interaction we have with another person is going to be perfect; it's going to also be perfectly loving, and perfectly honest and truthful, and other people will find us very easy to get along with as a result generally. [00:08:27.17]

      Mary: So it's almost like we're in this state of pre-humility now, or for most of us, a long way before humility, where we're filtering every emotion through, How's everyone going to react to this? What's my personal judgement of this feeling? What kind of person does this make me? [00:08:47.11]

      AJ: What does this person that I think I am look like to others? That's a big thing that modifies how humble we become.

      Mary: Yeah. Okay.

      AJ: So a person who's truly humble doesn't live in their facade. They live as they truthfully are, and they know who they truthfully are as well. So the person who lives in humility knows who they are, and they don't have this feeling of having to maintain a facade of who they are, or to present to others somebody they're not. They are perfectly comfortable with who they are, but they don't have any exalted feelings about who they are either. [00:09:25.15]

      Mary: So we're not elevating ourselves, we're not deprecating ourselves, we're just saying, This is who I am, right now.

      AJ: This is who I am, and in the most loving place that we can be. Who you are is exactly as God created you to be. That place would be once you've released all of your emotional injuries, all of the pride, all of the arrogance, all of the facade; all of those other emotional injuries that all create a lack of humility will be gone. But once that place has been obtained then you can be who you are, without even thinking about who you are, because you know that everything you do will be loving as a result of what you've already refined in your own soul. [00:10:03.21]

      Mary: And we can't ever reach that point unless we're first willing to just be this injured person that we are?

      AJ: Yeah, let's call it the injured mess, shall we?

      Mary: The injured mess! Yep, I feel like that often.

      AJ: And as I've presented in many talks how often we go through this state where we're firstly in the facade, and that's a very proud and arrogant place. It’s very, very resistive to truth. It has a very deep lack of emotional openness, and often is quite angry and fear based. Then you've got the injured self, which is what we need to progress into. And the injured self, is the person who still has all of these emotional injuries that come from our childhood that we are yet to release, so that we can become more loving, but at we least know those injuries. We at least allow ourselves to feel them without judgement. We at least allow ourselves to be that person; that's the beginning of humility. And then as we work our way through, we learn more and more about humility, and then we get to be our real self, and our real self usually is accomplished by the time we're at one with God. Now we're recognising our real personal self. There's still further development that we can have as a personality, but we now have the foundation, if you like, of our real self, which is obvious to ourselves and also to everyone around us at that point. And so what I see a lot of people doing is they live in their facade, hoping and try to make themselves humble in the facade, but because it's not yet being able to examine the injured self, it's nowhere near humility yet. Once a person starts getting into their injured self and being their injured self, now they have a great deal more humility than they had before. And then as they release the injured self, as they release the emotions that cause their injuries, they now become their real self who is totally capable of being completely humble, while at the same time being the pinnacle of God's creation. [00:12:06.19]

      2.4. Humility takes its name from a Greek word meaning of the earth

      Mary: Yeah, wow. For me, I feel like I've been stuck in facade for a long time and the thought of acknowledging and experiencing this injured self has felt so powerless. Yet now when I touch into that place I feel the power of it, because immediately, like there's just a groundedness and more truth is just flowing as a result. And it was interesting when I looked up these definitions the root of the word humility actually comes from the Greek word humus, which is of the earth, or of the ground. And I thought, Wow, yeah, I feel that the root really has a lot of meaning. [00:12:55.15]

      AJ: Yeah, there's sort of an irony in it, in a way, in the meaning of the word, because the reality is our body is made of the ground, we contain all of the elements that are in the ground. As a result we need to understand where we came from in a way, the fact that we were created and we didn't create ourselves. We didn't make ourselves. Once we understand that, then we can always be humble in our relationship with God. We always defer to God's authority, we always submit to God's authority in that place, because we understand where we came from. [00:13:34.02]

      3. What it means to live in humility

      Mary: Yeah, and I think that's probably one of the questions that I wanted to ask you about because I often see people around us, or even myself, begin to feel like humility is about feeling our emotions and therefore humility equals an ability to cry. But what I see you reflecting is something really different. It's kind of a quality I see that affects the way you live every day. It's not just about a willingness to feel your emotions, but there's a real respect for God and God's Truth within that. I want to spend the rest of this interview and possibly the next asking about all the aspects of humility, but just if you could give us an overall picture of what is looks like to be humble, all of the time? [00:14:30.19]

      AJ: Sure. I mentioned this ability to be yourself at all times without being conscious of yourself very much at all. And so in other words when we're humble, we have no real self consciousness in the sense. We’re not worried about ourselves or worried about how we appear to others. We're not worried about how things look to others, or what we're doing, and how it looks to others. [00:15:00.14]

      Mary: So is that really an element of pride? When I'm still conscious of how's this person viewing me, that’s just an indication I've still got pride within me?

      AJ: Yeah, well it's an indication that there are still emotions within where we're being self judgemental, and the only reason why we would be self judgmental is because we want to portray ourselves to be something that we're not. That is one of the things that an arrogant or proud person does. The reality is, that once we are humble we portray ourselves as we truly are, and in fact it's not even a portrayal, in the sense that it's not something we attempt to do, it's just something that naturally happens without thinking about it. So that's one of the main aspects of humility. Secondly, when we're humble we feel everything as we feel it. So our emotions are written on our face in other words. We don't try to mask our face with a whole series of emotions that are not present within our soul, or vice versa, mask our face with a smile when inside of our soul we feel sad, or ashamed, or angry, or bitter or whatever other emotion we feel. We allow the complete reflection of our true emotional condition to come out. It doesn't mean that we’ll be

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