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    Jesus Is Still a Human: Interviews With Gerrit Dawson
    Jesus Is Still a Human: Interviews With Gerrit Dawson
    Jesus Is Still a Human: Interviews With Gerrit Dawson
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    Jesus Is Still a Human: Interviews With Gerrit Dawson

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    The Word became flesh and lived among us. He was a real human, and he was raised bodily from the grave. He is still a human. What are the implications of this for our relationship with God? How does it affect what the church is doing? This is the edited transcript of four interviews with Dr. Dawson.

    LanguageEnglish
    PublisherGrace Communion International
    Release dateFeb 20, 2013
    ISBN9781301955695
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      Jesus Is Still a Human - Gerrit Dawson

      Jesus Is Still a Human:

      Interviews With Gerrit Dawson

      Copyright 2013 Grace Communion International

      Cover image: Grace Communion International

      Table of Contents

      Introduction

      Jesus Is Still a Human

      Challenges for the Church Today

      The Eternal Incarnation

      Jesus Is Always Ahead of Us

      About the Publisher

      Grace Communion Seminary

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      Introduction

      This is a transcript of interviews conducted as part of the You’re Included series, sponsored by Grace Communion International. We have more than 130 interviews available. You may watch them or download video or audio at https://learn.gcs.edu/course/view.php?id=58. Donations in support of this ministry may be made at https://www.gci.org/online-giving/.

      Grace Communion International is in broad agreement with the theology of the people we interview, but GCI does not endorse every detail of every interview. The opinions expressed are those of the interviewees. We thank them for their time and their willingness to participate.

      Please understand that when people speak, thoughts are not always put into well-formed sentences, and sometimes thoughts are not completed. In the following transcripts, we have removed occasional words that did not seem to contribute any meaning to the sentence. In some cases we could not figure out what word was intended. We apologize for any transcription errors, and if you notice any, we welcome your assistance.

      Our guest in these interviews is Gerrit Scott Dawson, pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He received his D.Min. degree in 2002 from Reformed Theological Seminary. He is the author of:

      Called by a New Name: Becoming What God Has Promised

      Discovering Jesus: Awakening to God

      Given and Sent in One Love: The True Church of Jesus Christ

      Heartfelt: Finding Our Way Back to God

      I Am With You Always: Meeting Jesus in Every Season of Life

      An Introduction to Torrance Theology: Discovering the Incarnate Saviour (editor)

      Jesus Ascended: The Meaning of Christ’s Continuing Incarnation

      Responding to Our Call, Participants Book, Vol. 4

      Writing on the Heart: Inviting Scripture to Shape Daily Life

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      Jesus Is Still a Human

      JMF: Thanks for joining us on another edition of You’re Included – the unique interview series devoted to practical implications of a Christ-centered Trinitarian theology in today’s complex world. Our guest today is Gerrit Scott Dawson, pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Dr. Dawson is author of Jesus Ascended: The Meaning of Christ’s Continuing Incarnation as well as An Introduction to Torrance Theology and Discovering Jesus, Awakening to God.

      Gerrit, it’s a pleasure to have you with us today.

      GSD: Thanks, Mike, it’s great to be here.

      JMF: Let’s begin by talking about Jesus’ incarnation and especially, his incarnation after his death and resurrection – a lot of people think of Jesus as being God in the flesh while he’s here on earth walking and talking and breathing, but once he’s crucified and resurrected and ascended and at the right hand of God, we don’t think of it quite the same way. We think of him, now he is fully God again, but not fully human as well. What’s wrong with that?

      GSD: You’re right, Mike. A lot of us have a kind of drop-in theory of the incarnation – that the eternal Son of God came down among us and for 33 years he was with us, but it’s kind of like he was slumming, and when he got that done with, he went back up to heaven and unzipped the skin suit and was just God again. It’s hard for us to imagine how this could happen, that Jesus could go up to heaven and still be in our flesh. We almost get a kind Monty Python cartoon feeling of Jesus going up on the clouds like a Rembrandt painting, waving his hand and saying, goodbye and taking off on a heavenly space ship. We know in our bones that it can’t be that, so we just wonder how could Jesus still be in the flesh and have gone to heaven to the right hand of God. And yet, if we have this drop-in view of the incarnation, we miss out on so much of the good stuff. We miss out on the rest of the story.

      JMF: What are the implications of that? If Jesus continues to be God in the flesh for us now, how does that change our life as a Christian?

      GSD: It’s really important. The first thing to think about is that it means that Jesus’ history goes on. It’s not just that he died and he rose and that’s it. But by ascending into heaven, he is still continuing to be the God-man. He’s still holding our humanity, next to his God-head, he’s still uniting himself to us. That has huge implications for us.

      On one hand, you think about our eternal life. Paul writes in Philippians 3:20 and 21 that he will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body. The Christian hope of resurrection in the body, of eternal life to come, that you still get to be you, and I still get to be me, is all grounded in the fact that Jesus retains his body – resurrected, transformed, glorified – but still, as John Knox said, the self-same body in which he was crucified, dead, buried and risen, is the same body he ascended in.

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