This episode of Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast was recorded live and in person in Las Vegas at the Black Hat Conference 2017. Raf had a chance to sit down across the microphone from Jason Garbis of Cryptzone to talk about a the software defined perimeter. SDP is a relatively new space many of us in security aren't familiar with, so we decided we'd record a primer on the topic, narrated by someone who is expertly involved in the practitioner side (through the CSA, Cloud Security Alliance) developing the standards and the provider side (Cryptzone) developing products and services towards the specification. This is a more technical-focused podcast than many of our others, so sit back, grab a notepad and get ready to learn something. For more of Jason's work, check out this link: https://insight.cryptzone.com/author/jason-garbis/ Guest Jason Garbis - Vice President of Products for Cryptzone, where he's responsible for the company's product strategy and product management. Garbis has over 25 years of experience with technology vendors, including roles in engineering , professional services, product management, and marketing. Jason joined Cryptzone from RSA, and holds a CISSP certification.