Debate Points

A3363
In sub-Section 772 it states that colleges cannot make
inquiries about arrests that did not result in a criminal
conviction and criminal convictions that have been sealed.
But in sub-section 774 it states that post-acceptance inquiry
is okay. Some clarification on why they can look at this after
acceptance and not during the acceptance process?
In sub-section 774 it states that colleges may make inquiries
about the individuals past criminal conviction history for the
purposes of OFFERING SUPPORTIVE COUNSELING AND
SERVICES
o Can you clarify what kind of services you will be offering
ex-convicts? And will regular students be able to use
these services as well?
o Also, do you know the average cost of providing these
services and counseling? Im sure that the colleges
would either have to hire more staff or invest monies
into the services this bill would want to provide
Now in section 2 on the second page of the bill text the bill
talks about creating an INDIVIDUALIZED PROCESS to include
these convicted students in HOUSING on campus or to
include them in SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. Am I correct in this
analysis of the bill?
o Okay good so now here is my question. In part b of
section 2 the bill lays out how the individualized
process must be must be set forth by the college
In part roman numeral 3 it states the nature of
the conviction or convictions and whether it bears
a direct relationship to the activity or participation
in aspects of campus life at issue
So how will this be judged? I mean if
someone is convicted or murder, rape,
robbery, or any other violent crime, wouldnt
this automatically make the college not want
to include these students in activities or
housing on campus.

 Just to prove my point over the past 5 years

at Herkimer college, which is an openenrollment institution, there have been 48
burglary cases and 14 sexual offenses. At
SUNY Albany for example an institution that
is selective there were 0 reported crimes
over the past 5 years. And this is from the
New York State Campus Crime website
So overall wouldnt it save the college money in the end by
just allowing them to ask on the admission application if they
have been convicted because then they wouldnt have to
hire more staff to provide counseling and services to these
ex-convicts