syiaa01s BUSH LED2497 0D VOFHO, 17PW80 V2, Dead! - Badcans Forums anet am Andyd1970 ——@msewssssevoovem srewavs ome Badcaps veisran Jon Date: Feb 2013, Ny counery: unites kingdom Tmo: Knowledge Seeker °o BD tom66 Savin’ for TSLA Nycountry: Uk Uh vokage: 23vac ste ° a Andyd1970 Baccaps Vewwran iy &state: kant My Country unites kingdom Timo" Knowbdge Seeker °o iD tom66 ‘Savi’ for TSLA Hi Guys, Through all the great help for you guys especially Tom66, I have learnt alot about fault finding TV's. But have my first one that is totally dead! It contains a 17PW8O V2, with the very long caps, I cannot see any leaking or domed caps. Any suggestions guys? Andy Attached images: [By 03012356.00 (719.6 KB, 199 vews) (Gf DSCE3557 00 (758.6 K8, 141 views) (=> | Re: Bush LeD249700VDFHD, 17PWH0 V2, De Here's the schematic http://www, teohome,com/ServiceManval, ,b=Submits So, they use 22" power supply in 24” LED, makes sense... ‘Test voltages on PL703. ‘lease do nat PHT me with questions! 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HiTom, Sorry for the delay in replying, I have followed your advice and found D710 was short, the other two were fine, so I removed D740 switched on set and it worked OK @ Fantastic and I {am certainly learning about the crappy VESTEL PSU's!! Just need to buy a replacement clode, ‘an you recommend 2 good supplier as cont went to use Maplins after your warning lest time @ The info on diode i '$B5100 PECI289 Andy (49 | Re: Bush Leo249700vDFHD, 17Pw80 v2, Desa! HiTom, Just checked the circuit diagram and it shows UF5402 below 0710, Just dont want to buy from 2 crap supplier, would it be best to replace all three? Andy (49 | Re: Bush Leo2as700VDFHD, 17Pwa0 V2, Deed! Unlike capacitors, counterfeit/daday UFS402's are very rare, bits / fw /itm/UFS402-DIO,, jkemsae710475 snould be OK. Maplin are fine for them too, but they don't stock them, They're nearly useless ~~ apart from a few lucky hits, I'm nat sure why they bother at al (49 | Re: Bush Le0249700vDFHD, 17Pw80 v2, Dead! 1 would also suggest you purchase thermal epoxy to stick the diodes together and make sure they run at the same temperature. It would also be advisable to replace all of D708-D710 with 2 new diode from the same order, to ensure they will have closely matched Specifications (seme batch of silicon.) The design of this power supply Is bad in the first place, there's not much you can do unfortunately, (49 | Re: Busi Lz024970DvDFHO, 47PWa0 v2, Dead! HiTom, ‘Thank you for the advice I will buy all three and get some thermal epoxy. You are a starl! thats anather TV you have saved from the dump @ Andy (t= |L Re: BUSH LeD249700vDFHD, 17Pw80 V2, Dead! Use the epoxy for 24V diodes too, have considered picking up some smaller Vestels for sales to students. 24” is ideal for htpihwww badeaps neorumishow tread php 7=28778syiaa0%s Join Date: Ape 201 hy state: Leeds & B'Stoke Sy'ceuney: Ue tine Verage-230Vac Soke arstucene Teen Posts: 29,820 °o Ba Andyd1970 desps Veveran Gay a'State: kent Sy'couney: united kenadom Tm 9: Knowledge Seeker one: 272 ° a ae Jon Date: Dec 2013 Grey &'state: Tyrone My'couney:tretna Tmo: Knowledge Seeker eo a Senior Member Jon Date: Oct 2012 hy states Aberitery Sy'couney: ke Tm a: Knowledge Seeker Pons: 134 ° BD Patm New Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Say Sate sone Tm a: Knowledge Seeker Poss 3 ° a flocko ‘Saceaps Veteran Join Date: Now 2032 Gry &'state: dover Sy'ceuney: ke Tm 9: Knowledge Seeker ° a PatM New Member BUSH LED248700VDFHO, 17PW80 V2, eau! - Badcaps Forums. bedroom etc, And they are often easy to fix due te the cheap components used, (49 |L Re: susn teo249700vDFHD, 17Pw80 v2, Dead! "No problem I certainly will do, Well they certainly are welll laid out inside and easy to repair from my experience @ ‘Thank you for all your help. Andy (49 |L Re: BUSH LeD249700VDFHD, 17Pw80 V2, Dead! ‘Thanks guys I had the same diode problem (49 © Re: BUSH LeD249700VDFHD, 17Pw8O V2, Dead! Many thanks I too had same problems changed all three to make sure. (49 |. Re: Bush Lep249700vDFHD, 17Pw80 v2, Deed! Reading this at work today :-) and searching Vestel 17pw80- I smile because Ive just started ‘to work on one of these, The 22" set is DEAD and I obviously went for the PSU straight ‘away- finding the usuel stick caps ok- surprise, then the diode short, which I culy replaced with another like-minded soul from another trashed Vestel board- but still DEAD, nat LED on the front of the set- nothing. Any pointers as to what's been fried by passing a/c over it? Theres @ guy on ebay selling a kit of 3 components to fix this board but I doubt 3 will fix it as Ive looked at the obvious (ive got the inline fuse shorted at present, as I managed to blow that while testing... T can buy a board for £50 but that makes short work and an expensive repair. T too have the scnematic, but stopped shart of measuring voltages as it was s0 cold in my workshop last night! (= | Re: BUSH LeD249700vDFHD, 17Pw80 V2, Dead! I have repaired 5 or 6 of these boards and have only ever seen the Diodes go bad you need to pull them all and replace all 5 with new then it should work, and do as Tom says use thermal epoxy to hold them together and leave the legs long Flocko (49 | Re: BUSH LeD249700vDFHD, 17Pw8O V2, Dead! No, the other 2 diodes where ok- but Id managed to solder a duff joint on the fuse Id shorted htpihwww badeaps neorumishow tread php 7=28778syiaa01s Join Date: Sep 2013 iy 8 State! 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