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178:10CG:Maywenowproceedtocanvassthe...PasayCity..
theelectronicallytransmittedCOCfromPasayCity.
178:19SY:Ballotbox,COC037PasayCity,sealedwiththis
plasticsealCOMELEC0479080,weshallnowproceedtobreak
theseal.Thereisabrownenvelope,withSerialNo.0017
purportedlycontainingtheCertificateofCanvasswithPaper
SealNo.0225155,signedbythechairman,wenowproceedto
breaktheseal.AndwehavetheCertificateofCanvassfor
PresidentandCertificateofCanvassforVicePresident.
181:09 CP: Any observations, manifestations from counsel?
Okay, there being none, there being no objection? The
electronically transmitted COC from Pasay City? Tama ba,
Secretary,thisisPasay?PasayCityisadmittedintothe
canvas. Secretary, please publicly announce the votes of
eachcandidate.
181:39SY:CertificateofCanvass,PasayCity,forPresident
ofthePhilippines,Poe:30,185,Roxas:26,119,Seneres:85,
Binay:44,232,Santiago:12,295,Duterte:81,472.
182:14 SEC: Certificate of Canvass, Pasay, for Vice
President. Marcos: 97,776, Robredo: 51,790, Trillanes:
1,804,Cayetano:20,417,Escudero:18,287,Honasan:2,797.
182:56CP:Let'sproceedwiththecanvassingofthecityof
Valenzuela.
183:04 SY: We now open the ballot box. Valenzuela City,
thereisaplasticsealCOMELEC0479104,wenowproceedto
break the seal, and there is a padlock on one side, we
shall...thereisanotherplasticsealbeforeIdo,COMELEC
0479105,weshallbreakthesameseal...theseal.Andwe
openthepadlockononeside.Wenowopentheballotbox.
There'sanotherplasticseal,redseal,COMELEC0479103,we
now break the seal. And inside there is a brown envelope
purportedlycontainingtheCertificateofCanvassandit's
SerialNo.0015,papersealed.No,no..thereisnopaper
seal, it's a scotch tape but there are signatures of the
members of the Board. We now open the said envelope. And
there are documents inside. Certificate of Canvass for
PresidentofthePhilippinesandCertificateofCanvassfor
VicePresidentPhilippines.
186:33CG:Mayweknowifthereareanymanifestationsfrom
any of the members of the panel? There be none from the
lawyers? There being none, the Chair hereby directs that
the...thesamebecanvassed.AndtheSecretaryGeneralis
directedtoreadthevotes.
186:59SY:CertificateofCanvass,CityofValenzuela,for
President.Poe:80,671,Roxas:30,845,Seneres:106,Binay:
20,361,Santiago:17,045,Duterte:113,745.
187:34 SEC: Certificate of Canvass, Valenzuela, for Vice
President. Marcos: 116,455, Robredo: 67,097, Trillanes:
3,258,Cayetano:26,972,Escudero:44,731,Honasan:2,135.
188:16CG:Maywenowproceedtocanvasstheelectronically
transmittedresultfromCebuCity.
188:31 SEC: Box bearing the markings COC 072, Cebu City.
Withplasticlocks,bearingthemarkingsCOMELEC0166281and
COMELEC0166284,wearenowbreakingtheplasticlocks,and
uhm... another plastic lock bearing the marking COMELEC
0166333.Thereisalsoapadlock,onepadlockwhichwewill
nowproceedtoopen.
189:42SEC:Thereisalsoaplasticlockinsidebearingthe
markingsCOMELEC0166701.
190:04SEC:ItcontainstheCOCforthepositionsofuhm...
PresidentandVicePresidentfromtheprovinceofCebu.
193:13CP:Anycomment,observationfromcounsel?Yes,Atty
Garcia?
193:28 GARCIA: In the absence of ah... Atty. Dilangalen,
yourHonors,itwouldappearthattheCOCthatwehavein
ourpossessiondoesnottallywiththeCOCasah...isbeing
examined by the board, your Honor. Cayetano was ah..
164,517.Escudero:40,297,Honasan:22,218,Marcos:90,636,
Robredo:158,692,Trillanes:7,793.
194:08DELIMA:Withthepermissionoftheleadcounsel,I'd
like to respond to that. May I know exactly what is the
documentreadbythegoodcounselforcandidateMarcos?
194:27 GARCIA: That is the other copy of the COC, your
Honor.
194:30DELIMA:MayIseeifit'sreallytheCOC?Counsel?
195:15 DE LIMA: Your Honor, observation... The document
beingpresentedbythecounselforCandidateMarcosisnot
exactlytheCertificateofCanvass.It'sthecanvassreport.
195:27 CP: Do educate us Ma'am. Counsel, what is the
difference between a Certificate of Canvass and a canvass
report?
195:33 DE LIMA: It would basically be the same, the more
officialone,ofcourse,isthemunicipal's...istheCOC.
Butwealsonoticed,yourHonor,Ithinkthatexplainsthe
apparent discrepancy, is because the number of clustered
precincts is not complete as reported in that particular
document,whichisonlythecanvassreportandnotexactly
theCertificateofCanvass.
195:58CP:Chairconfirmstheobservationofah...Senator
electLeilaDeLima.Ah..Doyouconfirmit,Atty.Garcia,
that the total number of clustered precincts in your
document is less than the total number of clustered
precinctsreportedintheah..cityCOC?
196:19 GARCIA: Yes, your Honor. I have to confirm to
Senatorelect,yourHonor.ButIconfirm,yourHonor,that
thereisreallyadiscrepancyasfarasthetimestampis
concerned,andasfar...Butthepointis,howcometheCCS
willprint,yourHonors,willprintaah..acanvassreport
aheadoftheprintingoftheCertificateofCanvass,your
Honor. As far as the system of the COMELEC is concerned,
Smartmatic is concerned, you have to print in accordance
with the totality of all the reported COCs from the
different municipalities, your Honors. There cannot be a
premature printing of the Certificate of Canvass. That is
justanobservation,andah...wewouldlikeanexplanation
comingfromCOMELEC,yourHonor.
197:04DELIMA:YourHonor...
197:05CP:Thankyouforthatobservation.Ma'am?
197:08DELIMA:TherewasnoprematureprintingoftheCOC..
itcannotbethattherewasaprintingoftheCOCaheadof
thecanvassreport
197:19CP:Ah,IbelievethecounselforVicePresidential
candidateMarcos,ah,willbesatisfiedwithareportfrom
theCOMELEC,ifCOMELECalsofound,ah,asimilar,ah,also
had a similar observation. So... thats conditioned on the
factifCOMELECalsosharestheobservation.
200:33GARCIA:Thenwehavetoaskalsothequestion...Why
didtheCCSoftheprovinceprintthisreport,YourHonor?
Inthefirstplace,thatcannotreallyhappen.Whatifin
thenextsucceedingdays,yourHonor,wewillbefacedwith
ascenariowheretherewillbeanotherCOC,whichwillnot
tallywiththeCOCbeingcanvassedbytheBoard,yourHonor.
200:56CG:I'llreiterate,asIhavealreadystatedawhile
ago,thetaskofthisjointcommitteeistomakesurethat
the statement of the votes as in the electronically
transmittedah...COCarethesameasthatofthemanually
transmitted. And I think that there is an agreement that
thereisnoah...variancebetweenthetwo.Andunlessah...
thereareotherobjectionsormanifestationfromanyofthe
lawyers,orovertheobjectionoftheah...Atty.Garcia.
201:42LISABAN:YourHonors,please
CG:Atty.Lisaban?
201:43 LISABAN: Your Honors, if uhm... if this honorable
Board will ask for explanation from the CBOC as to, as
regards this discrepancy, may we also ask that the Board
also explain if there was a problem with the CCS which
caused this discrepancy. Uhm... just a manifestation and
request that it be included in the report if the Board
decidestorequiretheCBOCtosubmittothisBoard.
202:11CP:Thisisabouttheimplementationofourelectoral
laws, and the COMELEC is hearing us here so... COMELEC
shouldtakeituponthemselvestoinvestigatethismatter.
Thisisactuallybeyondthe,beyondthejurisdictionofthe
joint panel formed to canvass the VicePresidential and
Presidential votes. Okay, unless Atty. Garcia wants to
formallyobjectbecauseah...youwantustorule?Youwant
topursuethat?Youwanttoformallymovethatwedefer?
202:46 GARCIA: Yes, your Honor. In the mean time, your
Honor.
202:50CP:Soyou'reobjectingtotheinclusion?
202:51GARCIA:Yes,yourHonor.
202:52CP:Okay,so...
202:53MACALINTAL:Wewouldliketomakeourargumentfor
theinclusion,yourHonor,ifheisfortheexclusion,then
weshouldalsoofferourargumentfortheinclusioninthe
canvass.
203:09CP:Ah,HonBarzaga
203:13 BARZAGA: Well, Mr. Chairman. Our rules are very
explicit.Itisexpresslyprovidedunderrule7,letterV,
as in Victory, and I quote, "should there exist any
discrepancybetweentheelectronicallytransmittedCOCand
physicallydeliveredCOCastothenumberofvotescastfor
any President or VicePresidential candidate, the joint
committee shall require the PBOC, CBOC, DBOC concerned to
personallyappearbeforeitwithin24hoursandexplainthe
discrepancy.Apparently,thelawyersforthecandidatesdo
notmeetwithusintheinterpretationofdiscrepancy.The
discrepancy is between the electronically transmitted
resultsandthemanuallydeliveredcertificateofcanvass.
Andinsofarasweareconcerned,ifwemakeacomparison,
thereisnodiscrepancy.Andtherefore,undertherules,we
areboundtocontinuewiththecanvassbecauseourdutyis
purelyministerial.
204:26 CG: And may we just remind the members of the the
candidates,torefrainfrommakingamotion,becauseyouare