Assalam Alekum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh Dear brother, Please do not get angry with me it may help both of us to understand

the Quran and Hadith correctly, we are human being and we can make mistakes and we are surely make mistake because that is the nature of man but please if I am wrong correct me and I am ready to correct and I wish in case of you it would be the same.

Regarding you say that the terms Arabic word used (mulamasa) in this case is meaning physical touch and sexual touch as well (you added the comments of few 'scholars'), but I would rather say you are wrong, the Alemas may rightly said but you wrongly understood, if you read the Glorious Quran where this word (mulamasa) used you will understand the real meaning and these are as follows:

Surah Maidah chapter 5: Verse 6:- (regarding when to make wudu) pkr't %!$# (#qYtB#u #s) OFJ% n<) o4qn=$ 9$# (#q=$$s N3ydq_r N3tr&ur n<) ,#tyJ9$# (#qs|B$#ur N3r/ N6n=_r&ur n<) t6s39$# 4 b)ur NGZ. $Y6Z_ (#rg$$s 4 b)ur NGY. #yD rr& 4n?t @xy rr& u!%y` tnr& N3YiB z`iB !$t9$# rr& MGy J s9 u!$|iY9$# Nn=s (#rgrB [!$tB (#qJJutFs #Y| $Y6hs (#qs|B$$s N6dq_q/ N3r&ur mYiB 4 $tB !$# @yfu9 N6n=t `iB 8ltym `3s9ur N.tdgs9 NG9ur mtGyJR N3n=t N6=ys9 cr3n@ 6. O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands (and arms) to the elbows; rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles. if ye are In a state of ceremonial impurity, bathe your whole body. but if ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been In contact with women (i.e. sexual intercourse), and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands, Allah doth not wish to place you In a difficulty, but to make you clean, and to complete His favour to you, that ye may be grateful. Surah Nisa chapter 4: Verse 43:pkr't t%!$# (#qYtB#u w (#q/t)s? no4qn=9$#$ OFRr&ur 3ts3 4Lym (#qJn=s? $tB tbq9q)s? wur $7Y_ w) /$t @@6y 4Lym (#q=tFs? 4 b)ur LY. #yD rr& 4n?t @xy rr& u!$y_ tnr& N3YiB z`iB !$t9$# rr& Ly J s9 u!$|iY9$# Nn=s

(#rgrB [!$tB (#qJJutFs #Y| $Y7hs (#qs|B$$s N3dq_q/ N3r&ur 3 b) !$# tb%x. #qt #qx 43. O ye who believe! approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say,- nor In a state of ceremonial impurity (Except when travelling on the road), until after washing your whole body. if ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been In contact with women (i.e. sexual intercourse), and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. for Allah doth Blot out sins and forgive again and again.
And almost all the commentators of the Quran says that this touch (mulamasa) only refers to sexual touch not physical touch (see attached Quran pdf formet). Because if it means physical touch than the same word used in Surah Al Imran chapter 3 verse 47: Ms9$s% b>u 4Tr& bq3t < $s!ur Os9ur _|Jt | o0 ( tA$s% 79x2 !$# ,=t $tB !$to 4 #s) #|s% #\Br& $yJR*s Aq)t ms9 `. bq3us 47. She said: "O My Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: when He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is! So we rightly know that physical touch does not make one pregnant but sexual touch makes one pregnant. Please see the commentary of the Quran and I believe you know Arabic as language but I dont know yet I can understand through verifying and understanding by reading the Quran and such I wish you will also understand by the blessings of Allah(swt). No matter what the scholars says about that but I respect them and in the mean time I am agreeing with those scholars who says that the correct meaning of mulamasa is sexual intercourse. If I am wrong in any point please correct me and I wish may Allah (swt) Helps us to understand and practice His Deen.
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1. Sahih international : Page 76 (Nisa 4:43) and And page 96 footnotes 216 (Surah
Maidah 5:6) [Translated by Saheeh International Jeddah] 2. From King fahad complex (Page 115 (4:43) and Page 143 (5:6) JazakAllah Khairan Md. Naim Khan

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Islam,

First of all I would say by quoting a verse of Quran from Surah Israa chapter 17 verse 81: 'Truth has arrived let the falsehood perish and for falsehood its by its nature bound to be perish' brother you have allegedly misunderstood me and you wrote that I have said myself as a sunni and I said I am Hanafi, please give me some proof from my email that you have with you where I say I am a Hanafi or I said I am a Sunni, so, please do not misquote and it is not a good choice to misquote and misrepresent your brothers. I think while you say I argue with salafi brothers, brother I wrote to give an example at the beginning of my answer, so to say that I am arguing with salafi brothers it is wrong and neither I argue with any of my brothers unless one come to argue with me. brother Sanath along with your email address wrote to me to read about Madhab and I press the button reply to all, But I do intentionally wrote much because I follow the verse of the Quran of Surah Nahl 16:125: Invite (all) to the way of Thy Lord with wisdom and preaching; and argue with them In ways that are best and Most gracious: for Thy knoweth best, who have strayed from His path, and who receive guidance. You have rightly quoted without references regarding breaking of wudu, but one things I cleared you in my email that if you differ any point among you the verse of the Quran says surahNisa 4 verse 59: Allah(swt) says O ye who believe! obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. if ye differ In anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe In Allah and the Last Day: that is best, and Most suitable for final determination. So no two sahih Hadith can contradict each other, if you have heared about Imam Sheikh Nasir Uddin Albani (rahimullah) you will find most other misconception that we have regarding prayer and wudu I think will assist us for knowledge, I never say who is right and who is wrong but it seems you are putting your words on my mouth. I said I respect all scholars but I follow Quran and Hadiths and I also said if you call yourself following any madhab by following the teachings of that particular madhab I am more particular than what you claimed your self and then I give an example of salafi madhab, it also apply for all other madhab. Please read the following links A Description of Prophet's (SAW) Prayer By Shaikh MuhammedNaasir-ud-DeenAl-Albaani. Translated by Usama ibn Suhaib Hasan. http://www.qss.org/articles/salah/toc.html A Description of How the Prophet Those Things Which http://www.qss.org/articles/wudoo/wudoo_ToC.html (SAW) Break Made Wudoo' Wudoo

so you asked me on which authority I said and made my statements, brother I never made my statements but I only quoted the statements of the scholars like Imam Nasir Uddin Albani (rahimullah) Sheikh Ibn Taimiah, Sheikh Bin Bazz, Sheikh Utaimi and student of comparative religion Dr Zakir Naik. I just make quotation and not my own comments on that I have strong logic that I described above to agree with such scholars regarding following Islam. I give you references that all the great four alemas of Islam, all the four great Imams said that if any of their Fatwas or teachings (or what you said madhab) contradict Allahs word, i.e. the Quran, or the sayings of the Prophet (pbuh) i.e. authentic Hadith, then that particulars Fatwa of theirs should be rejected, and the Sunnah of the Prophet should be followed. References: 1. Eeqaadh al-Himam, Al Fulaanee (Imam Abu Hanifa) [rahimullah] 2. Al-Majmoo of an-Nawawee (1/63) (Imam Shafi) [rahimullah] 3. Jaami Bayan al-Ilm, Ibn Abdul-Barr (Imam Malik)[rahimullah] 4. Eeqaadh al-Himam (Imam Hanbal)[rahimullah]

So I am just quoting the notes and comments or fatwas by the great scholars of Islam. I wish may Allah (swt) Helps us to understand and practice His Deen.

JazakAllahKhairan ------------------------------------------Md. Naim Khan Assalamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa barokatuh

Brother Naim Khan may Allah reward you for your sincerety and efforts to share your understanding of Islam with us! After reading your letter, I was not supposed to answer it but I found it necessary to make some points concerning the arguments that you have made. I must state that my intention is not to argue with you rather to inform you. I also understand it is useless to argue with "salafi" brothers in this way. However I love all my brothers in Islam for the sake of Allah s.w.t. First of all, about the verse which you have mentioned:

You shall hold fast to the rope of Allah, all of you, and do not be divided. Recall Allah's blessings upon you you used to be enemies and He reconciled your hearts. [3:103] None of the recognized scholars from salaf has said that this verse are about four madhabs; Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali or Shafii. What this verse means here is that of Islamic aqeeda. As long as all 4 madhabs are in the same aqeeda as ahli sunnah this verse does not refer to them. This verse refer to Shi'a, Qodiriyya, Ahmadiyya, Mu'taziliyya whose aqeeda is different than that of Muhammad s.a.w. Secondly, the saheeh hadith of Imam Termidhi in your letter also does not refer to 4 madhabs. All the u'lama have agreed that this only sect out of 73 is Ahli Sunnah Wal Jama'ah and as I mentioned there is no difference among 4 madhabs in terms of aqeeda. They are all in the same aqeeda. Thirdly, all other similar verses that you have provided is of the same context. They refer to the ones who deviate from the Islamic aqeeda. They have nothing to do with 4 madhabs. Fourthly, brother you have to understand what the madhab is. These 4 great ulama; Imam Abu Haneefa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafii, Imam Ahmad, have never given fatwa from their own desires rather their fatwas are more based on Quran and Hadith than ours. They feared Allah more than us! Fifthly, concerning the hadith in Sunan Aubu Dawood:

Narrated Aisha (R.A.): The Prophet (may peace be upon him) kissed one of his wives and went out for saying prayer. He did not perform ablution. "In the book Al-Majmu', Imam al-Nawawi says: Our companions said, and we confirm that [wudu' is nullified upon] all kinds of lams, whether the lams is by hand or through intercourse. Imams Malik, Shafi'i and their companions present as proof the hadith of Malik ibn Shahab Salim bin Abdullah bin 'Umar his father who said: 'A man's kissing his wife or touching her with his hand are both considered touch (mulamasa). Therefore, whoever kisses his wife or touches her with his hand, should make wudu.' And as you can see, this chain of narration is at the utmost limit of authenticity. As for the regarding the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) kissing his wives, then praying, this hadith is narrated by Habib bin Abi Thabit Sayyida Ayesha (Allah be pleased with her). It is a weak hadith

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Imam al-Nawawi mentions in Al-Majmu': In response to their using Habib bin Thabit's hadith as proof, there are two possible replies: a) The best and most well-known reply is that according to the consensus of the memorizers of hadith it is a weak hadith. Of those who rate the hadith as weak are Sufyan al-Thawri, Yahya bin Sa'eid al-Quttan, Ahmad bin Hanbal, Abu Dawoud and Abu Bakr al-Neisabury, Abu al-Hasan al-dar Qutni, Abu Bakr Bayhaqi and other early and late scholars. Ahmad bin Hanbal, Abu bakr al-Neisabury and others say: Habib made a mistake between kissing while fasting and kissing while on wudu'. Abu Dawoud narrated that Sufyan alThawri said that Habib only narrated on the authority of 'Urwa al-Muzani (meaning that he did not relate from 'Urwa bin al-Zubair) who is not known. What has been rigorously authenticated is Ayesha's hadith that The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) used to kiss while fasting. b) The second possible reply is that if the hadith is rigorously authenticated, then it is taken to mean kissing with a barrier in between. In this way all proofs are taken into consideration." For full answer about nullification of ablution after touching women in Shafii madhab see: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=3670&CATE=342 Six: no madhab claims to asnwer the question, who are you, by saying, I am Hanafi..All they say first and formost, I am a muslim! Seven: You have said that Muhammad s.a.w. did not follow a madhab, he was just a muslim. That is correct, however was Muhammad s.a.w. a sunni muslim? (No, cuz word sunni was not used at that time too). Why do you then call yourself as a sunni muslim? Brother Islam is not that simple as you might think, but it is deeper and broader. You can not be a scholar and derive fatwa just reading Quran and Sunnah independently, you need to refer to the ulama of Islam in order to understand them. Let's not forget that most of the muhaddiths out of 6 most known (Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, Nasa'ii, Termithi, Ibn Maja) followed the Shafii madhab. If knowing and reading more hadiths meant to derive meaning from them, these muhaddiths could have simply done that, however they haven't. They followed the madhab even though they were the scholars of hadith. So, knowing hadith is one thing, and deriving meaning from it is another. These 4 madhabs only differ in some areas of fiqh, whereas their aqeeda is the same. This must be considered as a mercy of Allah. Let's not behave as those who have memorized 2-3 verses and hadiths and then begin challenge the most knowledgeable and God-fearing ulama of Islam in giving fatwa, saying that they are not based on Quran and Sunnah. If we can not understand it, let's ask from scholars and be respectful. Soon we will find out that we were wrong and feel embarrassed for the claims we have made! May Allah guide us all to the right path of Islam! khoyr..

JazakAllahu Nadir