Archive Session 132

ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1
Handing over the reins...How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?
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Sarah__wright1
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Showmyhomework
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Pauls_elearning
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GaryAveryITT
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Showmyhomework
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DebbieHolley1
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Showmyhomework
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DebbieHolley1
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Sarah__wright1
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travelgeordie
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DebbieHolley1
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ICTmagic
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Sarah__wright1
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DebbieHolley1
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thingsbehindsun
Evening & welcome to #ukedchat tonight were discussing pupil led learning (PLL for Twitter short) how would you define PLL? RT @ukedchat: Under 2 hours until #ukedchat @8pm with @Sarah__Wright1: 'Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning ... [Weekly reminder] #ukedchat is about to start on Twitter. You can watch the conversation & join in here: http://t.co/lmRpxs8n Can be : what they learn, how they learn, the outcome of the learning.... Which to start with?? #UKEdChat RT @urban_teacher: @Visually This year i hope to use Visually in my class and for coursework revision #ukedchat RT @Pauls_elearning: [Weekly reminder] #ukedchat is about to start on Twitter. You can watch the conversation & join in here: http:/ ... RT @esafetyadviser: A new forum for East Midlands teachers - please RT, join and share http://t.co/8HECipEb #ukedchat RT @AndyDMMitchell: 5 Reasons The iPad Will Stay The King of the Classroom http://t.co/vovw0KVp #edtech #ukedchat RT @GaryAveryITT: Can be : what they learn, how they learn, the outcome of the learning.... Which to start with?? #UKEdChat #ukedchat use project based learning giving students a challenge to exhibit work in a beautiful way RT @ICTmagic: Read the new ICTmagic Show online magazine with 22 fab resources for your class. #ukedchat #edchat #edtech #ntchat http:// ... RT @Sarah__wright1: Evening & welcome to #ukedchat tonight were discussing pupil led learning (PLL for Twitter short) how would you ... RT @StuartLock: #ukedchat - dangerous premise - "how do we?" Surely the first question is "do we?" RT @AndyDMMitchell: Thousands of young people cannot cope with everyday life http://t.co/Ej5Czgcm #ukedchat #nusuk Learning is invisible. Teachers cannot make learning happen, they can create the environment in which learning happens #ukedchat
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oldandrewuk
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GaryAveryITT rkieran MrsPTeach
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DebbieHolley1
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DHESolutionsLtd
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oldandrewuk
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Pekabelo
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MrsPTeach
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travelgeordie
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StuartLock ICTmagic
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93rdminute
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thingsbehindsun
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Sarah__wright1
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StuartLock
RT @StuartLock: The premise behind tonight's #ukedchat title makes me feel like I imagine @oldandrewuk feels every day. What they learn tends to be 'What do you want to find out about in this topic....' real PLL?? #UKEdChat #ukedchat #mantleoftheexpert - thankyou and good night ;) The curried carrot soup is boiling away for school lunches....so it's #ukedchat time! RT @InnovateMySchl: The importance of teaching students mental toughness http://t.co/4eqhiS3G by @SkySportsLFS #pegeeks #ukedchat @GaryAveryITT Agree, I think a great start is pupils being engaged and believing in the process #ukedchat #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. #ukedchat We need students to be leaders. To take the lead with their attitude, approach and the quality of their work. Just like us! I try and use Primary Wall for PLL but it's LOST all their ideas :( won't be doing that again. Any alternatives? #ukedchat #ukedchat e.g. Campaign Afternoon where students create and present an issue or topic they are passionate about Genuinely puzzled by how to answer the opening question, aside from the trite and obvious. #ukedchat @GaryAveryITT Should the 'what do you want to learn...' be confined to a single topic? #ukedchat RT @InnovateMySchl: The importance of teaching students mental toughness http://t.co/4eqhiS3G by @SkySportsLFS #pegeeks #ukedchat Set aside one lesson per week. Ask big philosophical questions and give pupils time to think them through, discuss and present #ukedchat RT @travelgeordie: #ukedchat use project based learning giving students a challenge to exhibit work in a beautiful way @Pekabelo OK, I can subscribe to this. I just don't agree that students should decide what is learnt, and rarely (if ever) how #ukedchat
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benking01
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ICTmagic GaryAveryITT StuartLock
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thingsbehindsun
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Sarah__wright1
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MrPalomar1
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MrPalomar1
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Showmyhomework
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bellaale
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oldandrewuk
#ukedchat I wonder if doctors want their patients to prescribe their own drugs? Or police officers think people should arrest themselves? RT @TLTP: Teachers of #English required for posts across London and the SE. Please call 020 8709 6540 #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat We need students to be leaders. To take the lead with their attitude, approach and the quality of their work. Ju ... We have successfully introduced Learning to Learn in Y7 & 8 and Year 9 Pathways - students successfully lead their own learning #UKEdChat RT @DHESolutionsLtd: @GaryAveryITT Agree, I think a great start is pupils being engaged and believing in the process #ukedchat @StuartLock Can you give an example of pupil led learning that has happen in your own classroom? #ukedchat @ICTmagic no. but what is the solution? #UKEdChat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" Oh dear. Oh dear. ... Play a game of 'can we do it? should we do it?' with ethical questions created by pupils #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat We need students to be leaders. To take the lead with their attitude, approach and the quality of their work. Ju ... RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" Oh dear. Oh dear. ... RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat I wonder if doctors want their patients to prescribe their own drugs? Or police officers think people should ... @ukedchat @8pm @sarah__wright1 #ukedchat I think have clear expectations is key but I guess that's with everything! RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat We need students to be leaders. To take the lead with their attitude, approach and the quality of their work. Ju ... #ukedchat Do ambulance drivers turn up & say:"here's your ambulance, Mr Heart Attack Victim, drive it yourself, I'm just here to facilitate"
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ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1 20:07:45 Sarah__wright1
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richards_james
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dandesignthink
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frogphilp
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SurrealAnarchy
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Richy68
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ICTmagic
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jackieschneider
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StuartLock
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davidhunter
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lizzie_h18
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oldandrewuk StuartLock richards_james
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HeyMissSmith
#ukedchat How do you do yours? What PLL do you currently use in your classroom? Top 5 eLearning Communities at Google+ that you should join http://t.co/MwlCnZw8 via @zite #ukedchat #addcym a lot of teachers dont even want feedback from students never mind ppl! #ukedchat @Pekabelo #pll #ukedchat is about supporting students in understanding what's to be learnt and really involving them in the how Education takes place within a socio-cultural context. How can that be defined by children? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" By going home RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Do ambulance drivers turn up & say:"here's your ambulance, Mr Heart Attack Victim, drive it yourself, I'm ... @GaryAveryITT Not even a little?! Not a suggested course of action or a divergence to a topic you didn't intend? #ukedchat I have long been of the belief that most learning occursin school despite what teachers do not because of it #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Do ambulance drivers turn up & say:"here's your ambulance, Mr Heart Attack Victim, drive it yourself, I'm ... @oldandrewuk do you think that there is any better way for pupils to learn/become self-motivated lrnrs than by you teaching them? #ukedchat @ICTmagic year 2 class wanting to continue a story past the authors ending - own writing and art work. Not in planning but did it! #Ukedchat #ukedchat No, the only profession full of hatred of it's own authority and expertise is the teaching profession. Did people really vote for this #ukedchat topic? 10 Innovative Ways to Use ThingLink in the Classroom http://t.co/FXYsAZjn via @zite #ukedchat #addcym I'm not sure as a teacher PLL should be the aim. Independence is important but that is different from the children leading. #ukedchat
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Wonderacademy
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katzb21 davidhunter thingsbehindsun
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Showmyhomework
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oldandrewuk lizzie_h18
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DebbieHolley1
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Sarah__wright1
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Showmyhomework
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GaryAveryITT
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ICTwitz
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richards_james
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oldandrewuk Showmyhomework
@oldandrewuk #ukedchat no but they do ask relevant questions to assist with diagnosis - it takes as much prep for a pupil led session #ukedchat New post: 10 things I know about pupil-led learning... Or am still learning about... http://t.co/4ZanX5kW my student IT committee lead learning in technology 4 both peers & staff - we r primary level #ukedchat @jackieschneider isn't that bad teaching? #ukedchat Teaching more about embedding skills such as research, analysis and healthy scepticism rather than learning facts? #ukedchat @ukedchat @8pm @sarah__wright1 I give learners freedom to think outside the box in small teams, good happens! #ukedchat #thinkdifferent #ukedchat If a teacher wants kids to teach themselves then we should give the kids the teachers' wages. @oldandrewuk your examples are all linked to something going wrong... #Ukedchat RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat New post: 10 things I know about pupil-led learning... Or am still learning about... http://t.co/4ZanX5kW RT @danielharvey9: @Pekabelo #pll #ukedchat is about supporting students in understanding what's to be learnt and really involving them ... RT @danielharvey9: @Pekabelo #pll #ukedchat is about supporting students in understanding what's to be learnt and really involving them ... @ICTmagic ah, realised the no was not explained...no it shouldn't be limited to one topic. The 'off track' lessons are the best #UKEdChat @oldandrewuk For once, I actually agree with you there. Happy new year. #ukedchat Can You Measure an Education? Can You Define Lifes Meaning? http://t.co/dUms9Uxl via @zite #ukedchat #addcym #ukedchat If it seems plausible to you that kids could learn better without you giving them direct instruction then get out of the classroom RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat We need students to be
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ICTmagic
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christully85
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oldandrewuk
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bellaale GaryAveryITT travelgeordie
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Sarah__wright1 DebbieHolley1 StuartLock ICTmagic
leaders. To take the lead with their attitude, approach and the quality of their work. Ju ... RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat We need students to be leaders. To take the lead with their attitude, approach and the quality of their work. Ju ... @dandesignthink unfortunately true but this is d 21st century where collaborative learning communities shd b engaged & encouraged #ukedchat I facilitate an after school programming club where 2 year 10 boys teach a group of year 8 - 10s how to use Python #ukedchat am seriously worried that we teach kids to be cynical/world weary at tender age as we massage figs & 'pretend' to achieve things #ukedchat @GaryAveryITT Ah! Too many conversations at once. :) #ukedchat @richardredwin: Any teachers out there got the SMART Notebook app for iPad? If so, is it worth investing in? #ukedchat Anyone fancy hearing my hip-hop song about Gove? It's going to be pretty unforgiving. Monday release! :D #ukedchat #GoveMUSTgo #ukedchat And in case anyone says it, no kids do not learn better if left to "discover" knowledge for themselves. http://t.co/AYgQ18Ir The future of classrooms http://t.co/GpaaaZjh #edchat #ukedchat why all the false dichotomising? learning is a partnership btwn learner & teacher. You don't DO learning to people #ukedchat @ictmagic always the way with #UKEdChat Create a curriculum where students are always creating work that is beautiful and is relevant to them and their future #ukedchat #ukedchat What are the benefits of PLL? How and indeed does it improve learning? @jackieschneider #ukedchat but surely authentic tasks and leading would help to minimise this? #ukedchat tonight is based on students learning like they're doing PHDs. I love @ewanmcintosh's TED video http://t.co/5IRNwMRk which relates to this topic. I recent
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HCPerrin
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DebbieHolley1 oldandrewuk
find! #ukedchat @StuartLock no of course. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a say in the design of the learning process. #ukedchat Data-gather on Kent secondary schools - variety in their websites is SO interesting - added to the "when I have more time" list... #ukedchat RT @timbuckteeth: The future of classrooms http://t.co/GpaaaZjh #edchat #ukedchat #ukedchat The greatest effect on learning stems from teacher feedback and direct instruction. #ukedchat Reduce #teacherTalk! RT @ICTmagic: I love @ewanmcintosh's TED video http://t.co/5IRNwMRk which relates to this topic. I recent find! #ukedchat @christully85 @richardredwin I have it. It's good, and use it with App TV so can use remotely within the classroom. Otherwise, no! #ukedchat RT @Sarah__wright1: #ukedchat What are the benefits of PLL? How and indeed does it improve learning? @MaireadC After school sessions sound great - but I worry about an approach that majors on facilitation for the bulk of lessons #ukedchat @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Still need to help guide them. Im all about Zones of Proximal Development and Intermental Zone of Development. #ukedchat Every Lesson I give students a small responsibility to lead the lesson, then eventually overtime they are leading the whole lesson RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat Reduce #teacherTalk! Surely one of the best ways to learn is to teach someone else; this applies to children as well as adults! #ukedchat Illiterate prisoner falsely imprisoned was DEEPLY motivated to study medicine & law to prove his innocence & successful #Ukedchat Teach metacognition: allows pupils to understand how as well as what they think. Stops them becoming receptacles for information #ukedchat
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ICTmagic
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frogphilp
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urban_teacher
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benking01
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RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat The greatest effect on learning stems from teacher feedback and direct instruction. #ukedchat Thoughts on Learning from Experience, earlier post. Maybe one for later. http://t.co/iobBvB7h @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Agree with you Andrew - total nonsense RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat Reduce #teacherTalk! @oldandrewuk you forgot discussion #Ukedchat RT @tes: Despite self-doubt and illness, PGCE student Angie Jenkinson is sustained by others' kindness http://t.co/CFDb7gGl #ukedchat #ukedchat And don't tell me teacher neglect motivates kids. They'd be even more motivated if you let them watch cartoons all day. What's #ukedchat topic on this evening? Nature's Weirdest Events is somehow making up for lousy broadband that's taking me away from #ukedchat bugger RT @ICTmagic: I love @ewanmcintosh's TED video http://t.co/5IRNwMRk which relates to this topic. I recent find! #ukedchat quite shocked/disappointed at d number of negative responses here.Think how we as adults learn best didacticly r collaboratively #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: @StuartLock no of course. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a say in the design of the learning process. #ukedchat Make sure students are trained in critique. Teachers should be there to facilitate #ukedchat RT @GaddafiGove: Anyone fancy hearing my hip-hop song about Gove? It's going to be pretty unforgiving. Monday release! :D #ukedchat #Gov ... @oldandrewuk thanks for the link, will absorb later...but if this is the research, why the constant reference to PLL #UKEdChat - Thoughts? RT @benking01: Surely one of the best ways to learn is to teach someone else; this applies to children as well as adults! #ukedchat
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Sarah__wright1
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lizzie_h18
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tweetiepie3689
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oldandrewuk davidErogers Mrs___F
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Sam_Currie
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katzb21
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Sarah__wright1
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travelgeordie
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LutonNUT
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nancyrubin
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oldandrewuk
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Michael_Merrick
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SusanGodsland
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Michael_Merrick
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StuartLock gwalbrecht
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Michael_Merrick
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DebbieHolley1
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davidhunter
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Michael_Merrick
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GrahamBM DrJohnLTaylor cherrylkd
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sklobal
.@ICTmagic If you want more detail on how one mght create authentc tasks #ssatnc12 keynote gave more time :-) http://t.co/UEK2gftR #ukedchat RT @timbuckteeth: The future of classrooms http://t.co/GpaaaZjh #edchat #ukedchat #ukedchat And as for "co-constructed knowledge": If your knowledge can be co-constructed by a child there is something wrong with it. RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" Oh dear. Oh dear. ... RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" Oh dear. Oh dear. ... RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat I wonder if doctors want their patients to prescribe their own drugs? Or police officers think people should ... @GaryAveryITT @oldandrewuk That's a good question #ukedchat RT @timbuckteeth: The future of classrooms http://t.co/GpaaaZjh #edchat #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat No, the only profession full of hatred of it's own authority and expertise is the teaching profession. RT @urban_teacher: #ukedchat Every Lesson I give students a small responsibility to lead the lesson, then eventually overtime they are l ... #ukedchat interesting to hear different views on this topic.we generally seem not to trust children.wonder why? RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat If a teacher wants kids to teach themselves then we should give the kids the teachers' wages. RT @timbuckteeth: The future of classrooms http://t.co/GpaaaZjh #edchat #ukedchat Students need to be taught to learn independently. The skills aren't innate. #ukedchat @HeyMissSmith #ukedchat I'm with you there. Two things are totally different. Bhutan takes conservation into the classroom #edchat #ukedchat #teachers #SklobalThursdayThanks http://t.co/nSZmKfNs http://t.co/7d8fPCMy
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ChrisChivers2 Pekabelo
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mrpeel
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thingsbehindsun
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Dymvue
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oldandrewuk
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sklobal
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DrJohnLTaylor
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StuartLock
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L1v1n9byNum63r5
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RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat If it seems plausible to you that kids could learn better without you giving them direct instruction then get ... #ukedchat Let the independent learners rehearse the skills and show what can be achieved. Peer learning. @StuartLock also, design their own questions, look at @Totallywired77's punk learning. #ukedchat #ukedchat poss another secondary/primary split? I tend towards @oldandrewuk and might sit this one outindependent and resilient isn't PLL Using football as a stimulus in Literacy with the help of iPads! http://t.co/iR8KM9Lt #ipaded #ukedchat #edchat #literacy #talk4writing Content not always the driver for lessons. Allow pupils to present their view on a subject of interest. Make them defend their POV #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: I have long been of the belief that most learning occursin school despite what teachers do not because of it #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Co-construction is not a vector of knowledge. It's a vector of creativity and therefore can't be taught. #ukedchat #ukedchat The autonomous child left to discover the world by the progressive teacher is not based on anything other than crazed ideology. RT @urban_teacher: #ukedchat Every Lesson I give students a small responsibility to lead the lesson, then eventually overtime they are l ... Bhutan takes conservation into the classroom #edchat #ukedchat #teachers #SklobalThursdayThanks http://t.co/nSZmKfNs We learn to think by thinking. We think when we are given something worth thinking about. #ukedchat @davidhunter Even students who can be 'trusted' benefit from what and how they're learning being designed by a professional #ukedchat @tesMaths credit. I found it on my computer this evening. http://t.co/Wl5fLt4g #maths #edchat #mathchat #ukedchat @tesMaths credit. I found it on my computer this evening. http://t.co/Wl5fLt4g #maths #edchat #mathchat #ukedchat
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davidErogers DrJohnLTaylor benking01
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Showmyhomework
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BrightAire
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syded06
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SusanGodsland
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dialogicreading
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davidErogers
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oldandrewuk
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Sarah__wright1
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GaryAveryITT
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urban_teacher travelgeordie
We've found student-led learning the singularly most challenging think to teach to teachers. But the results are amazing. #ukedchat #mantleoftheexpert is pupil led learning but always starts with the question what is the curriculum to be taught #Ukedchat @ukedchat thank you - my first reaction would be why limit it to the classroom? ;-) #ukedchat 'Better a guide at the side than a sage on the stage'. (Alison King) #ukedchat RT @DrJohnLTaylor: Students need to be taught to learn independently. The skills aren't innate. #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Let the independent learners rehearse the skills and show what can be achieved. Peer learning. @oldandrewuk - doesn't it depend on the balance in the "co-construction partnership"? *retch* #ukedchat Just had a look at the #ukedchat timeline and quite amused by the argument only direct instruction approach to learning works! RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat The autonomous child left to discover the world by the progressive teacher is not based on anything other tha ... RT @ukedchat: Under 2 hours until #ukedchat @8pm with @Sarah__Wright1: 'Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning ... A simple idea we use is to get students to ask questions at the beginning of a unit on postits. There's you unit #ukedchat #ukedchat An ideology for those who have no faith in themselves, no confidence in their own place in the world. An ideology that... RT @syded06: Just had a look at the #ukedchat timeline and quite amused by the argument only direct instruction approach to learning wo ... How about a balance?? - Children find out, form an opinion.... But i will teach at the end of the lesson, not the beginning... #UKEdChat #ukedchat The aim of the game is not to spoonfeed or chat too much in a lesson. The aim is to let students spoon feed each other! Content not important gone are the days when teacher
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Showmyhomework
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PeterSpencer88
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bellaale
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DrJohnLTaylor
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StuartLock
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wilderwoman1
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GrahamBM oldandrewuk StuartLock DebbieHolley1
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Sarah__wright1
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ChrisChivers2
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dialogicreading
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Caz963
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danielharvey9 ewanmcintosh
should tell students about ox bow lakes in geography. Ive never seen one! #ukedchat RT @benking01: Surely one of the best ways to learn is to teach someone else; this applies to children as well as adults! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk so when learning to do something it is always best to be told how to do it? #ukedchat RT @syded06: Just had a look at the #ukedchat timeline and quite amused by the argument only direct instruction approach to learning wo ... Provide students with the scaffolding; show them how to build; then move aside & allow them to start putting the bricks in place. #ukedchat I really can't believe that people still want to subscribe to Rousseau's Emile and that way of learning. #ukedchat #ukedchat You have to provide the tools and the frameworks. Their application and transference is where they become independent learners. How would you design a classroom? http://t.co/8bKoixOf #edchat #UKedchat (12 min vid) #ukedchat ...worships weakness to the point where the helpless child seems like a saint. @DrJohnLTaylor Tripe, I'm afraid. #ukedchat. @DrJohnLTaylor #ukedchat and we don't know what the skills are children will need - so independent learning increasingly important #ukedchat So, a mixed bag of opinions, does anyone have any examples of positive or negative pupil led learning sessions or projects? #ukedchat DT/problem solving in all areas can offer potential collaborative, independent activities. http://t.co/r78O1np0 @syded06 Did you find that out yourself, or did someone tell you? Apparently we have to be told EVERYTHING! #concerned #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" Oh dear. Oh dear. ... RT @Pekabelo: @StuartLock also, design their own questions, look at @Totallywired77's punk learning. #ukedchat Student-led learning is threatening for many unless they
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katzb21
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HeyMissSmith
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thingsbehindsun
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oldandrewuk
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can identify their robust pedagogical toolbox: http://t.co/5UIQrjX4 #ukedchat #ukedchat New post: 10 things I know about pupil-led learning.... http://t.co/4ZanX5kW. Don't deny the simple success of teacher talk... @ewanmcintosh wd love 2 hear more anout this research #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Do ambulance drivers turn up & say:"here's your ambulance, Mr Heart Attack Victim, drive it yourself, I'm ... RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat And as for "coconstructed knowledge": If your knowledge can be coconstructed by a child there is something ... maybe we need to be choosy with children taking leading rolls. ICT is perfect. Always get children choreog as no good myself. #ukedchat @cherrylkd en when children are 'presenting' direct instruction is vital.Children's feedback to each other also needs guidance. #ukedchat Learning happens when pupils (are made to?) think hard. But how do we get pupils to think hard? What does thinking look like? #ukedchat #ukedchat In the absence of adult leadership & authority kids do not become autonomous, they become slaves to the mob. RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Let the independent learners rehearse the skills and show what can be achieved. Peer learning. RT @wilderwoman1: #ukedchat You have to provide the tools and the frameworks. Their application and transference is where they become in ... RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Do ambulance drivers turn up & say:"here's your ambulance, Mr Heart Attack Victim, drive it yourself, I'm ... Students have 130 odd hours a week to design their own learning. Why would we let them do it in the precious time we have #ukedchat "Point the finger at someone (or an entire profession...) and you have 3 fingers pointing right back at yourself..." ;) #ukedchat @cristinataboada @oldandrewuk It's possible to inhibit the development of creativity. Only humanists believe
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you can support it. #ukedchat RT @lizzie_h18: #mantleoftheexpert is pupil led learning but always starts with the question what is the curriculum to be taught #Ukedchat time 2 move away from d concept of d teacher pouring d fountain of knowledge in2 d childs head #ukedchat #ukedchat Children are not natural saints or prtointellectuals They are as prone to moral weakness as the rest of us. All I have to say on #ukedchat is International Baccalaureate. Research it. It is the best example I can give and cannot explain in a tweet! RT @davidErogers: A simple idea we use is to get students to ask questions at the beginning of a unit on postits. There's you unit #ukedchat @dialogicreading @syded06 a scene from Shirley Valentine springs to mind! #ukedchat All the #ipad apps I have used so far this year from rec year 6! With examples of the context used http://t.co/ZcOkJodO #ipaded #ukedchat My response to #ukedchat is that we need to define what pupil led learning is first, then remember it's only good some of the time @davidhunter #ukedchat like many I've been in the classroom when it works fab and when it goes horribly wrong...valid points on both sides RT @GrahamBM: How would you design a classroom? http://t.co/8bKoixOf #edchat #UKedchat (12 min vid) Deeper thought needs a stimulus, which often comes from discussion. It also needs time. Hence why project based approaches work. #ukedchat @StuartLock i agree.I dispute that much of what is taught to children is of relevance or purpose to their lives though #ukedchat .@katzb21 There's some great evidence of student-led lrn improving lit & numeracy in our Brissie schools: http://t.co/1xo6Y2qZ #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh Go on, because that would fly in the face of lots of research. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Is anyone here suggesting that ALL learning should be self-directed by the students? Surely not. #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1 20:20:11 Sarah__wright1
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@davidErogers that was how I started a total pupil led topic last term, worked brilliantly! #ukedchat @davidhunter no. Mammals r naturally curious & learn thru experience of doing & solving not by following NC & jumping thru hoops #ukedchat Claxtons 4rs BLP is a framework that promotes shared language for students #ukedchat @lizzie_h18 Just done something like this. Students totally immersed in their learning,creating amazing work http://t.co/RcRUZdO9 #ukedchat RT @syded06: Just had a look at the #ukedchat timeline and quite amused by the argument only direct instruction approach to learning wo ... RT @davidErogers: My response to #ukedchat is that we need to define what pupil led learning is first, then remember it's only good some ... .@StuartLock I'd encourage ppl to read research from Harvard Project Zero, Guy Claxton, David Perkins, Ron Berger... #ukedchat RT @benking01: @oldandrewuk Is anyone here suggesting that ALL learning should be self-directed by the students? Surely not. #ukedchat @davidhunter So have a professional discussion about what rather than letting them decide. #ukedchat #ukedchat mantle of the expert: co constructed scaffolded inquiry based pedagogy every time! @oldandrewuk anything on mob/herd mentality being more prevalent in chn than adults spring to mind?Been writing about this today #ukedchat @janbaker97 IMO teaching is not about telling. Its about finding the right approach at the right time for the right student #ukedchat #ukedchat learning by example followed up by practice at home or with peers tends to work! There are leaders in everyclassroom Think a more subtle definition of "student-led" is needed. #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Children are not natural saints or prto-intellectuals They are as prone to moral weakness as the rest of us. @davidErogers yep agree and becoming gradually more confident with this :) #ukedchat
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RT @jodieworld: All I have to say on #ukedchat is International Baccalaureate. Research it. It is the best example I can give and cannot ... Claxtons 4rs BLP is a framework that promotes shared language for students to lead their own learning #ukedchat I HATE our obsession with labelling kids & believing that NC levels make any kind of sense #ukedchat RT @katzb21: time 2 move away from d concept of d teacher pouring d fountain of knowledge in2 d childs head #ukedchat #ukedchat A, B, C of mantle; All involved, Big problems, Community that Cares!!! #ukedchat Some deficiencies of character and intellect are actually typical of children & they need help to overcome them. RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat mantle of the expert: co constructed scaffolded inquiry based pedagogy every time! RT @GrahamBM: How would you design a classroom? http://t.co/8bKoixOf #edchat #UKedchat (12 min vid) @nicoladarling78 Simple is good. I'm a simple person after all :-) #ukedchat @benking01 @bellaale @oldandrewuk #ukedchat And students need to be TAUGHT how best to learn for themselves. #ukedchat We introduce children to the world. That is why we teach. @jackieschneider Yes, but without context and input we're talking about figuring out how resistant plasterboard is to teeth #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: I love @ewanmcintosh's TED video http://t.co/5IRNwMRk which relates to this topic. I recent find! #ukedchat @janbaker97 @syded06 sorry to tweet drop quite tricky to do that sort of stuff in MFL they do need our input b4 they can output #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I think a better analogy is that of a Learner driver & instructor - where learning is happening. Doing is learning. #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh You said "the results are amazing". Tell me where #ukedchat
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@thingsbehindsun Wait, so being an 'information receptacle' is a bad thing? Knowing things is a negative? I don't understand. #ukedchat @jackieschneider love your thoughts. There to facilitate the learning? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Enjoying the incisiveness of your tweets. Getting rid of BS surrounding child- directed learning one tweet at a time #ukedchat #ukedchat Where is pupil led learning best used? Does it lend itself to a particluar subject? activity? RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat A, B, C of mantle; All involved, Big problems, Community that Cares!!! #ukedchat understanding that sometimes we need to lead, sometimes listen, sometimes challenge and more often pause and be silent... #ukedchat primary pupils definitely benefit from PLL when set homework with open quest like 'Show me in any way u like what u know about... Do we do things for pupils or with pupils? The answer to this depends on our view of the potential of the child #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 Anything outdoors is good for learning by play and experimentation #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Surely, doctors/ambulance drivers do not set out to educate. #ukedchat .@StuartLock Results of student-led learning amazing in thousands of schools. Where to start? Try @SOTSCleveland for one story #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: I think a better analogy is that of a Learner driver & instructor - where learning is happening. Doing is learning. #Ukedchat @oldandrewuk #ukedchat and part of that should be introducing them to how they can learn independently, surely. 'Independent learning' is not the most helpful label, nor 'pupil led'. We are aiming to stimulate inquiry and facilitate this. #ukedchat. #ukedchat As for the idea that education is found within, read the passage from Chesterton at the bottom of this: http://t.co/LSV3kquD The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1 20:24:42 20:24:44 20:24:55 20:25:02 alisoniredale designersblock thingsbehindsun davidErogers
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RT @GrahamBM: How would you design a classroom? http://t.co/8bKoixOf #edchat #UKedchat (12 min vid) RT @GrahamBM: How would you design a classroom? http://t.co/8bKoixOf #edchat #UKedchat (12 min vid) Seems apt for #ukedchat tonight RT @philo_quotes One must steer, not talk. ~ Seneca @BrightAire for sure - and you can manage risk while being quite invisable to the young people #ukedchat The elephant in this #ukedchat room is that whatever PLL we try is irrelevant - our broken assessment system sucks independence out of chn. RT @StuartLock: #ukedchat - dangerous premise - "how do we?" Surely the first question is "do we?" RT @thingsbehindsun: Seems apt for #ukedchat tonight RT @philo_quotes One must steer, not talk. ~ Seneca .@StuartLock The challnge of "show me where" that *many* teachers ask for, is that the correct answer is "go seek". It's all there #ukedchat RT @SurrealAnarchy: @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" ... @cherrylkd They often need a scaffold AND a model in primary school to give good feedback. Worth doing but teacher HAS to lead #ukedchat RT @londongary: #ukedchat primary pupils definitely benefit from PLL when set homework with open quest like 'Show me in any way u like w ... RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat understanding that sometimes we need to lead, sometimes listen, sometimes challenge and more often pause a ... #ukedchat It's all about balance and flexibility. There are times for student-led and times for teacher-led. Why obsess either way ? @Sarah__wright1 i think IT is ideal. All primary teachers were born in d 20th century while all their pupils were born in d21st #ukedchat RT @thingsbehindsun: Seems apt for #ukedchat tonight RT @philo_quotes One must steer, not talk. ~ Seneca RT @DrJohnLTaylor: 'Better a guide at the side than a sage on the stage'. (Alison King) #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1 20:25:42 bellaale
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davidErogers Showmyhomework aknill
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BrightAire
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bekblayton DHESolutionsLtd oliverquinlan
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syded06
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oldandrewuk
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climbdg5 garycorbett7
RT @thingsbehindsun: Seems apt for #ukedchat tonight RT @philo_quotes One must steer, not talk. ~ Seneca @StuartLock @LeeDonaghy Well said, and more importantly 'what is?' and 'what does it loook like?' #ukedchat @syded06 @janbaker97 #ukedchat #spoton @Sarah__wright1 #ukedchat look at @headguruteacher s blog and handing over learning with groups #ukedchat for me, pupil led learning is as much about not having particular expectations as to where learning should lead. Sky=limit! @RobAnthony01 @oldandrewuk But then how would they know what to think? #vgotskydontmeanshittome #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat We introduce children to the world. That is why we teach. .@davidErogers - as kids develop competence in risk management/learning leadership they can take on a more developed role. #ukedchat RT @thingsbehindsun: Seems apt for #ukedchat tonight RT @philo_quotes One must steer, not talk. ~ Seneca Anyone who needs evidence try to empower own students +experience amazing learning themselves instead of worrying about change #ukedchat #ukedchat looks as divisive as ever! Hope everyone had a great break... @tstarkey1212 he is making Paulo Friere's point...#ukedchat #ukedchat needs a much clearer definition of terms, seems to me people are debating very different things. Imagine this statement in a classroom you dont need to know that so dont look it up. I dont care if you are interested! #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat If I did, then I wouldn't teach them. RT @SurrealAnarchy: @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "Topic: Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning in the classroom?" ... RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat #ukedchat a positive, when learners have a direct input on projects. Combined with results they see visually such
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as a community project @oliverquinlan I agree Oliver #ukedchat @StuartLock not sure I get you. Content largely decided for us. #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 many pupils r more skilled, competent & inspirational in IT than their teachers #ukedchat @bramleyapplecc used this when training and saw some great work but not come across or used since : ( #ukedchat RT @oliverquinlan: #ukedchat needs a much clearer definition of terms, seems to me people are debating very different things. RT @DebbieHolley1: @DrJohnLTaylor #ukedchat and we don't know what the skills are children will need - so independent learning increasin ... @Pekabelo absolutely yes #Ukedchat Can anyone help please? I'm looking for: Kay, W. (2005)A rose by any other name: but physical education and sport are not the same #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat for me, pupil led learning is as much about not having particular expectations as to where learning should lead. ... Pupils 'learn' when interested. That's why they can talk about every member of their football team but forget covalent bonding #ukedchat @davidhunter I think you're arguing that students should decide. I'm saying I disagree. #ukedchat RT @aknill: @Sarah__wright1 #ukedchat look at @headguruteacher s blog and handing over learning with groups @oldandrewuk fair play. rephrase. Any acknowledgement of effectiveness of other methods than direct instruction? #ukedchat @HeyMissSmith @cherrylkd The same applies in secondary, I think. #ukedchat RT @garycorbett7: #ukedchat a positive, when learners have a direct input on projects. Combined with results they see visually such as a ... @oldandrewuk Out of interest, what age do you teach? Do you think that has a bearing on pupil led learning? #ukedchat
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Sarah__wright1
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bekblayton
Pupil Led Learning - is it simply not asking questions to which you want the 'right' answer as the teacher? #ukedchat @DebbieHolley1 Nobody is against dialogue in the classroom, just against forgetting who should lead it. #ukedchat @MMcMahonTEP @oldandrewuk So, has all your own learning in life been a result only of following? No leading at all? #ukedchat There is a more common sense approach-between the extremes tonight 10 things I know about pupil-led learning..http://t.co/4ZanX5kW #ukedchat @LeeDonaghy @davidErogers Ditto on 'should we'? And my answer is 'no, or at most very rarely' #ukedchat Anyone know of any pupils currently helping Gove design the new curriculum?? #UKEdChat #ukedchat Set clear tasks, appropriate resources, some independent, some scaffolded support, some taught. Evaluate. Learn from outcomes. @janbaker97 @lancslassrach perhaps. The argument on #ukedchat seems to be about direct instruction RT @katzb21: @Sarah__wright1 many pupils r more skilled, competent & inspirational in IT than their teachers #ukedchat RT @aknill: @Sarah__wright1 #ukedchat look at @headguruteacher s blog and handing over learning with groups @LeeDonaghy @StuartLock Should we is yes - when it's approriate. It depends on how you define Pupil Led Learning that's the thing #ukedchat RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat @nicoladarling78 come to our school! http://t.co/F5o60vDA #Ukedchat @davidErogers couldn't agree more and they love being able to answer the questions as they add to the display :) #ukedchat .@davidErogers - for some kids leadership will always be mainly outside comfort zone. Kids don't learn if high risk of failure. #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 Pupil learning can be used everywhere! ICT is a tool use it to shape pupils learning,
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tstarkey1212
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ChrisChivers2
and your teaching. #ukedchat @StuartLock Hattie doesn't contradict student-led lrn. Top effects evenly spread btwn students & teach roles: http://t.co/2lAJVHfP #ukedchat Think about important important stuff YOU have learned were you passive recipient or did you lead? #ukedchat @davidErogers I can subscribe to that - if that's PLL then that's fine. Listen, converse, feedback. #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: Think about important important stuff YOU have learned - were you passive recipient or did you lead? #ukedchat @lizzie_h18 #ukedchat They are linked to deficiency (of health or behaviour). So is teaching. It's meant to address ignorance not worship it @thingsbehindsun But they'd still have that pass. And to interpret and analyse, you've got to start with facts #ukedchat @BrightAire Leadership development is a great example of pupil led learning - so is enterprise skills #ukedchat Did a teacher tell *you* the sum of everything *you* know about everything? #ukedchat "@bhwilkoff:Important reflection on both Flipped and Blended Learning:Why I Gave Up Flipped Instruction http://t.co/sDElkDNE #PLP" #ukedchat RT @GaryAveryITT: Anyone know of any pupils currently helping Gove design the new curriculum?? #UKEdChat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Set clear tasks, appropriate resources, some independent, some scaffolded support, some taught. Evaluate. L ... @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Set clear tasks.... Evaluate. Learn from outcomes. - Agreed, balance is everything The role model for anyone who believes that the most important thing is to teach students to think for themselves is Socrates. #ukedchat. RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat RT @ICTwitz: @oldandrewuk For once, I actually agree with you there. Happy new year. #ukedchat RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat understanding that sometimes we need to lead, sometimes listen, sometimes challenge and more often pause a ...
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katzb21
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aknill
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davidErogers
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travelgeordie
RE http://t.co/klX95kSQ @rc_newman I'm following #ukedchat about students led learning and mantle of the expert keeps coming up! .@StuartLock Teachers doing their own research isn't a cop-out. It's expected part of being a professional (in Scotland, at least) #ukedchat @StuartLock I think that most teachers take part in some form of pupil led learning, it;s at the small scale #ukedchat RT @lizzie_h18: @nicoladarling78 come to our school! http://t.co/F5o60vDA #Ukedchat RT @aknill: @Sarah__wright1 #ukedchat look at @headguruteacher s blog and handing over learning with groups @GaryAveryITT well maybe thats where they shd b. A shared vision by all stakeholders might bring about stg amazing. #ukedchat RT @davidErogers: @ukedchat thank you - my first reaction would be why limit it to the classroom? ;-) #ukedchat @StuartLock @davidhunter but some choice should be given. Learning to make choices, work independently, something they will need #ukedchat @StuartLock don't believe in 'handing over the reins'.do believe that chn should have time to be guided thru their own interests.#ukedchat I have 6 teams of young people setting up business with minimal help from me - is this pupil led learning? #ukedchat @davidErogers - that is a REAL danger. Way too much "can u guess what I want u 2 say? #ukedchat Philosophical enquiry should be embedded within the whole curriculum, to stimulate deeper thought and engagement with learning. #ukedchat. RT @jackieschneider: @davidErogers - that is a REAL danger. Way too much "can u guess what I want u 2 say? #ukedchat Please Be Sociable.Share on #facebook #googleplus #linkedin #socialmedia #curation article http://t.co/paQv1af3 #edchat #ukedchat #toolschat My students love projects and exhibiting work improves engagement and quality. Cross curricular or remove
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JL3001
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HeyMissSmith
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oldandrewuk DrJohnLTaylor
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Showmyhomework oldandrewuk bellaale
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Pekabelo
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bekblayton
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Sarah__wright1
traditional subjects #ukedchat @dandesignthink Yes. It's place is when there isn't a competent teacher available. It's first aid, not medicine. #ukedchat RT @timbuckteeth: The future of classrooms http://t.co/GpaaaZjh #edchat #ukedchat They're too scared. It's about moving in a controlled way, and probably slowly. Teacher always remains "real leader" #ukedchat #apparentrisk @GaryAveryITT or any teachers for that matter? #ukedchat #ukedchat why either passive recipient or leading learning? Is there no middle ground? Get a grip people, another manufactured argument. @danielharvey9 @cherrylkd Children need to know who is in control of the lesson #ukedchat @jackieschneider Exactly - and all we do is increase the risk of total faliure when they don;'t give the 'right' answer #ukedchat RT @janboo: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Agree with you Andrew - total nonsense Philosophical teaching gets students thinking for themselves. http://t.co/NVS6wvZh #ukedchat #ukedchat Does PLL allow pupils more ownership of their learning? Do you think it increases intrinsic motivation or interest? @jackieschneider a bit of both. I think #patience is missing today. Learners want the answers quickly. The journey is just as key #ukedchat @lizzie_h18 Nope. I didn't forget. #ukedchat RT @RevErasmus: #ukedchat why either passive recipient or leading learning? Is there no middle ground? Get a grip people, another manufa ... @jackieschneider: Think about important important stuff YOU have learned - were you passive recipient or did you lead? #ukedchat >>YES! RT @RevErasmus: #ukedchat why either passive recipient or leading learning? Is there no middle ground? Get a grip people, another manufa ... RT @jackieschneider: Think about important important stuff YOU have learned - were you passive recipient or did you lead? #ukedchat
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thingsbehindsun
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mrpeel
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SarahLearns
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MissLapere nicoladarling78 DHESolutionsLtd
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oldandrewuk
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danielharvey9
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ward_lj
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jackieschneider
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BrightAire
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DebbieHolley1
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StuartLock urban_teacher
#ukedchat getting pupils excited about a topic, allowing them to develop questions to investigate and share results. Conduct the odd lesson or prep on Twitter. It can work #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Set clear tasks, appropriate resources, some independent, some scaffolded support, some taught. Evaluate. L ... @DrJohnLTaylor although Socrates led all the dialogue #ukedchat surely balance is the key. Value digression and exploration but need focus. RT @ukedchat: Under 2 hours until #ukedchat @8pm with @Sarah__Wright1: 'Handing over the reins. How do you implement pupil led learning ... Anyone read Alfie Kohn's 'The Homework Myth'? Homework's been a hot topic in our staffroom recently! #uked #ukedchat @lizzie_h18 if only you weren't so far away :) #ukedchat @jackieschneider agree! The Eiffel Tower is in...anyone, anyone....starts with P....anyone? #UKedchat @GaryAveryITT #ukedchat Because of ideology. Progressives have long since discovered the only way to blind people to the facts is to... @GaryAveryITT #ukedchat Anyone know anybody helping gove design curriculum RT @DebbieHolley1: @DrJohnLTaylor #ukedchat and we don't know what the skills are children will need - so independent learning increasin ... Recently started to learn piano cos I wanted to but I employ EXCELLENT teacher I trust & follow her guidance EXACTLY #ukedchat @davidErogers - yes. The aim is always to develop leadership capacity. Difficult if kids not given opportunity. #ukedchat RT @DrJohnLTaylor: Philosophical teaching gets students thinking for themselves. http://t.co/NVS6wvZh #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh In fact, that table contradicts your argument thoroughly #ukedchat #ukedchat As teachers we are mindful if someone passes our door and there is chaos we are failing but not
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cherrylkd
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Showmyhomework
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familysimpson
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oldandrewuk
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dialogicreading
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nicoladarling78
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thingsbehindsun
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Sarah__wright1
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bellaale
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Julian3576
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ChrisChivers2
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bekblayton
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danielharvey9
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HeyMissSmith
the case if students are leading. @benking01 @heymisssmith True. I'm not a fan of PLL. Margin for error is too great. Scaffolding is a must #ukedchat RT @danielharvey9: @GaryAveryITT #ukedchat Anyone know anybody helping gove design curriculum #ukedchat structuring tasks so they require problem solving or different approaches to learning #challenge @GaryAveryITT #ukedchat ...talk as if their opinions were actually based on expertise. PLL is just one of their many types of snake oil. @mrpeel @DrJohnLTaylor It's Zone of Proximal Development vs Intermental Development Zone. Both are things of beauty #ukedchat @bramleyapplecc I experienced it being used almost daily across the whole school but since then I've not really experienced. #ukedchat Encourage pupils to blog, either on their own or as a class blog #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: @benking01 @heymisssmith True. I'm not a fan of PLL. Margin for error is too great. Scaffolding is a must #ukedchat RT @Sarah__wright1: #ukedchat Does PLL allow pupils more ownership of their learning? Do you think it increases intrinsic motivation or ... #ukedchat This my old class during pupil led project based upon house design morphed into Tudor shipwreck salvage: http://t.co/KdYpzRLe #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes support and mentor. I'd like to hear about real projects/enquiry led learning, teacher led but built with pupil interests...just if..If you have time #ukedchat @HeyMissSmith @cherrylkd #ukedchat But what we are talking about is what the students are doing and learning that's all @cherrylkd @benking01 Sometimes I let then 'play teacher' lasts 5 minutes then children are screaming for me to take charge! :D #ukedchat
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Sarah__wright1 StuartLock nicoladarling78
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rgreen_SMUC oldandrewuk MrsThorne
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davidhunter MrsPTeach climbdg5 Wonderacademy
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jackieschneider
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BrightAire
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pibbott
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davidErogers
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mrgibbenglish
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Sarah__wright1
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ewanmcintosh
RT @urban_teacher: #ukedchat As teachers we are mindful if someone passes our door and there is chaos we are failing but not the case i ... @davidhunter can probably subscribe to that #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: Think about important important stuff YOU have learned - were you passive recipient or did you lead? #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes ... @Mr_Chas #ukedchat Only disbelief. @davidErogers agree - I had great success w/ y9 doing this. Lessons planned on what they identified as necessary to answer the Q #ukedchat @danielharvey9 @GaryAveryITT I thought the point was that everyone he got on the design committee he ignored #ukedchat What about PIL (Pupil Inspired Learning)? #ukedchat PLL: GCSE group co-constructing whole unit? SLT lukewarm tho! :-) #ukedchat #ukedchat There's a clue in the title pupil-led learning: some classes will need leadership. http://t.co/4ZanX5kW I love practising the piano but if some interfering teacher started assessing for their own targets I would refuse to play #ukedchat @davidErogers - yes. If that's what they think they've done too. Done well to develop such confidence in their own leadership. #ukedchat @jackieschneider #ukedchat Pretty much told everything important. Didn't listen though and found out for myself. #storyofmylife @MrsThorne And it means you often cover some really interesting stuff too that you may have overlooked otherwise #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1: #ukedchat // as long as task is meaningful, engaging&allows learners2explore their interests within it, PLL def raises it! RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat This my old class during pupil led project based upon house design morphed into Tudor shipwreck salvage: http: ... .@StuartLock A teacher-led classroom has no place for feedback beyond grades, appreciation of EVERY kids'
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Teachric
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Sarah__wright1
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nicoladarling78
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cherrylkd
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tstarkey1212
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jackieschneider
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ChrisChivers2
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MrsThorne
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dialogicreading
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EBridgeAfr
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oldandrewuk
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Jackcabnory
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Teachric
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ewanmcintosh
cog ability... #ukedchat Once again #ukedchat is LOL. Who picks these poll choices? How about "how can we as teachers force SLT's to listen to us?" RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes ... @DrJohnLTaylor I'm really looking forward to getting back into p4c this term... Going to try and introduce into this school #ukedchat @danielharvey9 @heymisssmith I need 2 be told what 2 learn, and then get on and do it. Teacher led first, & ch learn this way too #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes ... RT @pibbott: @jackieschneider #ukedchat Pretty much told everything important. Didn't listen though and found out for myself. #storyofmylife #ukedchat Task setting is hypothesis. I think you can do this... Teachers are classroom researchers. http://t.co/TGBcY6at @davidErogers was a great test of my questioning skills to tease out what they needed as well as wanted, but they had ownership #ukedchat @HeyMissSmith @cherrylkd More you do it, better they will get surely? Need to develop that trusting atmosphere #ukedchat #dontcallmeshirley RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes ... @mrpeel #ukedchat Not really. It's just that secondary teachers spend so much time undoing the damage they soon realise they need to teach. Can't wait to be able til I can make a full contribution to #ukedchat - need to study my ass off As usual @oldandrewuk has taken the nail and smashed it completely to smithereens with his tweets during #ukedchat .@StuartLock A teacher-led classroom doesn't care about remediation or the disposition to learn. It's ALL abt direct quality inst #ukedchat
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davidhunter
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PeterSpencer88
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dukkhaboy jackieschneider travelgeordie davidErogers Sarah__wright1
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EBridgeAfr
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urban_teacher
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tstarkey1212 StuartLock
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EBridgeAfr
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SurrealAnarchy
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BrightAire
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MissLapere
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DrJohnLTaylor garycorbett7
@jackieschneider children don't all do the same #ukedchat nor do they employ me ;) @jackieschneider but when learning an instrument the time comes when a teacher can teach you no more & you have to develop on own #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat If it seems plausible to you that kids could learn better without you giving them direct instruction then get ... @pibbott - Ain't that the truth!!!! #ukedchat Discernment students research and learn about what is relevant to them their group and their future #ukedchat Read this journey and then tell me that there's no room for pupil led learning http://t.co/VBmotn6y #ukedchat #ukedchat A teacher facilitates learning. How do you scaffold PPL, is it even possible? RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat understanding that sometimes we need to lead, sometimes listen, sometimes challenge and more often pause a ... @StuartLock They grow in confidence over period of time to lead even if they make a mistakes along the way #ukedchat @ChrisChivers2 Couldn't agree more. Many roles have to be undertaken to be effective. #ukedchat @urban_teacher What? If students are leading chaos this is not failing? #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Set clear tasks, appropriate resources, some independent, some scaffolded support, some taught. Evaluate. L ... RT @mrpeel: @DrJohnLTaylor although Socrates led all the dialogue #ukedchat surely balance is the key. Value digression and exploration ... @davidErogers - I think that's the knack sometimes. At others to make the "safety net" visible. So they can build their own. #ukedchat Student-led learning makes sense & makes learning make sense 2 them!We're learning facilitators-2 teach them how 2 learn for life. #ukedchat A guide to using a philosophical approach to help students learn to think for themselves. http://t.co/OLehElxX #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 Yes so long as there is a foundation
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davidErogers
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oldandrewuk
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jackieschneider dialogicreading HalLRoberts bramleyapplecc
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mrpeel
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SarahLearns
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climbdg5
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DebbieHolley1 katzb21 Teachric
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familysimpson
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Sarah__wright1
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tstarkey1212
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travelgeordie Showmyhomework
with which to build on. Without this will learners be able to cope with PLL? #ukedchat @MrsThorne Yes - you can work on the quality of students' own questions too #ukedchat which is essential in geographical enquiry @edidaktik #ukedchat Dewey was a cock-eyed optimist. He thought boys playing football organised themselves without a hierarchy. Why do schools make such heavy weather of it? Kids come to us at 4 full of ideas, passion, solutions & massive thirst 4 knowledge #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 Mercer 2008 says Yes #ukedchat @syded06 makes my heart hurt #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes ... @oldandrewuk #ukedchat I do feel that pain! Believe me! But always need some room to explore and digressthat's all Off colour tonight, but wanted to add. PLL is not all or nothing. Collaboration is important. #ukedchat Pedagogy:from Greek "to lead the child". Herein lies the truth. PLL=pupils leading pupils. #ukedchat #dropedujargon RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Teachers are the lead thinkers in a classroom, sometimes direct teaching, sometimes active guide, sometimes ... @MissLapere great point! #ukedchat RT @DCallanIT: A collection of scratch resources http://t.co/piGlxNFU #scratched #scratch #ictcurric #edchat #edtech #ukedchat #niedchat ... #ukedchat so what is the difference between PLL and PBL? RT @davidErogers: Read this journey and then tell me that there's no room for pupil led learning http://t.co/VBmotn6y #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 @jackieschneider But sometimes, without instruction, you plateau. #ukedchat Students should go to school to practice learning dispositions and habits to prepare them for a future that is changing #ukedchat RT @Teachric: Once again #ukedchat is LOL. Who picks
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SarahLearns
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davidErogers
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bellaale
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ICTmagic
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StuartLock ewanmcintosh oldandrewuk
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DebbieHolley1
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bellaale
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StuartLock SarahLearns davidErogers
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mrgibbenglish
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garycorbett7 HeyMissSmith benking01 jackieschneider
these poll choices? How about "how can we as teachers force SLT's to listen to us?" We only have to watch children play to see the potential. #ukedchat Our young people resdesign and evaluate our curriculum @priorygeography and co-plan lessons with teachers. Pupil Led Learning. #ukedchat RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Set clear tasks, appropriate resources, some independent, some scaffolded support, some taught. Evaluate. L ... RT @SarahLearns: Off colour tonight, but wanted to add. PLL is not all or nothing. Collaboration is important. #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh Says who? Not in my classroom. Which I lead. #ukedchat Sorry I have to jump out of #ukedchat - fascinating discussion but wailing kids need help getting to bed :-) @PeterSpencer88 #ukedchat Yes. If the knowledge is in the teacher, let them share it. RT @davidErogers: Read this journey and then tell me that there's no room for pupil led learning http://t.co/VBmotn6y #ukedchat RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat understanding that sometimes we need to lead, sometimes listen, sometimes challenge and more often pause a ... RT @Teachric: Once again #ukedchat is LOL. Who picks these poll choices? How about "how can we as teachers force SLT's to listen to us?" Also, the UNCRC applies here. #ukedchat Our young people write school wide policies that shape the quality of their education. Pupil Led Learning #ukedchat PLL framework should be flexible enough4learners, esp w/assigned (either by teacher or pupil) roles to explore own interests #ukedchat #ukedchat enquiry should be promoted in all lessons. Developing thinking skills are important @oldandrewuk @mrpeel What damage? #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 When students are left to be fully independent, without any scaffolding, most will fail; that's NOT how to do it! #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 - without my wanting to learn the
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mrpeel
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davidErogers
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benking01
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oldandrewuk
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travelgeordie
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bramleyapplecc
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ewanmcintosh
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rkieran
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benking01
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StuartLock oldandrewuk
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dialogicreading
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urban_teacher
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wilderwoman1
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jackieschneider
teacher would have been useless. But I need her badly to make progress #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy @drjohnltaylor #ukedchat but they seemed to come back for more. Mind you if we all faced OFSTED with Socrates calmness... My main point is that we need to stop thinking of learning as something that happens in classrooms at all. #ukedchat RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat @cristinataboada @frogphilp #ukedchat Teaching children to be creative is like teaching them to breathe, excrete or pick on the fat kid. @familysimpson: #ukedchat so what is the difference between PLL and PBL? PLL is students asking the questions PBL working towards exhibit #ukedchat the social health of the class must be considered. Scaffolds can be tight then get looser as responsibility is taken on. .@StuartLock Jolly good to that sliding scale in action there ;-) You're confident in finding that balance. Few are. #ukedchat @bekblayton #ukedchat Come and visit. It is a thing of beauty. #mantleoftheexpert RT @DebbieHolley1: @DrJohnLTaylor #ukedchat and we don't know what the skills are children will need - so independent learning increasin ... @urban_teacher So you don't need to go to work any more? #ukedchat @cristinataboada @frogphilp #ukedchat Why not teach them things they don't already know how to do? @ewanmcintosh #ukedchat Explicitly instruct them to sleep and they will do so. Otherwise they wont know what to do when tired. Apparently @StuartLock Good Point! As teachers we need to stop playing it safe! To please the higher powers #notplayingthegame #ukedchat @travelgeordie multidisciplinary subjects such as Media Studies allow students to lead and run with production work #ukedchat @tstarkey1212 @PeterSpencer88 - EXACTLY! I need her expertise but only becos I am motivated myself!
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Sarah__wright1
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nicoladarling78
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Julian3576
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danielharvey9
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MissMidgley
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ChrisChivers2
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DebbieHolley1
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BrightAire
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davidErogers
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ewanmcintosh
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Sarah__wright1
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ChrisChivers2
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bekblayton HeyMissSmith
#ukedchat #ukedchat Is pupil led learning 'brave' teaching, for example, would you incorporate aspects of PLL into an observation lesson? @mrlockyer @mrsprentice11 @kathrinedavies I love it! #ukedchat #ukedchat: Pupil led learning is making elephants, finding out they escape & wondering why some have become heavy: http://t.co/BBtMx4Tu @cherrylkd @heymisssmith #ukedchat Agreed for any topic clarification of content is teacher responsibility But how they get there I ran takeover day, and students get to decide what topics are taught and how we 'do' them. They love it! #ukedchat #ukedchat Pupils developing as Learners takes time, well ordered classrooms, clarity of direction, space and time to explore. Watch EYFS. RT @DrJohnLTaylor: A guide to using a philosophical approach to help students learn to think for themselves. http://t.co/OLehElxX #ukedchat @oldandrewuk - is yr prob with pupil-led learn - 1. Fundamental/philosiphical, 2. Semantic, 3. How it's practiced, 4. Somat else? #ukedchat @misslkelly There are a few more now - I should put together a list but I'm pants at being organised!! #ukedchat there's someone at Girls sc .@StuartLock The work I'm interested in is seeking specific tools, tactics and whole-school strategies that make lrn better #ukedchat RT @SarahLearns: Off colour tonight, but wanted to add. PLL is not all or nothing. Collaboration is important. #ukedchat RT @DebbieHolley1: @DrJohnLTaylor #ukedchat and we don't know what the skills are children will need - so independent learning increasin ... RT @rkieran: @bekblayton #ukedchat Come and visit. It is a thing of beauty. #mantleoftheexpert @dialogicreading @cherrylkd Even in an atmosphere of complete trust children want guidance from their teacher.
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GaryAveryITT
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thingsbehindsun
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cherrylkd
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jackieschneider
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Sarah__wright1 GaryAveryITT davidErogers
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Pekabelo
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web20education
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ewanmcintosh
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preevyet
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wilderwoman1
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StuartLock GaryAveryITT TLABerkhamsted ewanmcintosh
#ukedchat OfstedFramework doesn't mention PLL but uses the phrase -often inspirational teaching strategies, engaged and motivated children. #UKEdChat *only* in classrooms - agreed RT @davidErogers we need to stop thinking of learning as something that happens in classrooms at all #ukedchat @danielharvey9 @heymisssmith Think we may be basically arguing same point. It's a strange #ukedchat tonight RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Pupils developing as Learners takes time, well ordered classrooms, clarity of direction, space and time to ... RT @davidErogers: Our young people write school wide policies that shape the quality of their education. Pupil Led Learning #ukedchat Is PLL an inspirational teaching strategy? #UKEdChat @hawkins_joyce And look at the results http://t.co/VBmotn6y I only guided and supported - they even bossed me about at the end #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @cristinataboada @frogphilp it's not about teaching them, it's about giving them the opportunity to be creative. #ukedchat Pls rt 2012 year in review #mentormob web tour with over 100 #socialmedia #startup #edtools http://t.co/hl1TSrtU #edchat #tlchat #ukedchat .@StuartLock You know from Hattie's work that ANY teacher input will help. I'm interested in those which teachers struggle w/ most #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat The autonomous child left to discover the world by the progressive teacher is not based on anything other tha ... @travelgeordie...and they both apply AND challenge conceptual and practical frameworks #ukedchat There are fixed whiteboards (one for each group) and marker pens (to use desks as a whiteboard) in my classroom. #ukedchat @Pekabelo That I like! :o) #UKEdChat @bekblayton One example can be found here although it does not go as far as others appear to want: http://t.co/VwgNmyMR #ukedchat .@StuartLock Those ones happen to be the tactics on
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A_Weatherall
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Sarah__wright1
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ewanmcintosh
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preevyet
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StuartLock
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JackWmedia urban_teacher dialogicreading
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bramleyapplecc
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davidErogers
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Os190
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StuartLock
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danielharvey9
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Stephen_Logan Sarah__wright1
that list that involve students taking more control #ukedchat I want to block #ukedchat from my timeline tonight. Not because of topic but because of lack of nuanced discussion. All or nothing. Pah! RT @bramleyapplecc: #ukedchat the social health of the class must be considered. Scaffolds can be tight then get looser as responsibilit ... MT @MissLapere: Guy Claxton's work especially the building learning power has been influential in my classroom. It's practical #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat The greatest effect on learning stems from teacher feedback and direct instruction. Students can work through problems collaboratively, and often do #ukedchat - and often questions they've asked based on my teaching RT @GrahamBM: How would you design a classroom? http://t.co/8bKoixOf #edchat #UKedchat (12 min vid) @StuartLock I that's the aim lol #ukedchat @HeyMissSmith @cherrylkd Up to a point. But nothing wrong with free-exploration or you risk causing dysplay #coloradopaper #ukedchat RT @rkieran: @bekblayton #ukedchat Come and visit. It is a thing of beauty. #mantleoftheexpert @thingsbehindsun Thank you. It's frustrating that we limit our discussions and thoughts to the classroom level. #ukedchat Is the modern day pupil all too quick to trust internet resources? Research is a bit more than just tapping into Google or wiki #ukedchat And they can all be working on different aspects at different difficulty. They can also be asked to explore a concept #ukedchat @cherrylkd @heymisssmith #ukedchat surely that's the important thing Objective evidence suggests it can have a big impact on learning RT @davidErogers: My main point is that we need to stop thinking of learning as something that happens in classrooms at all. #ukedchat RT @MissMidgley: I ran takeover day, and students get
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cristinataboada
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nicoladarling78
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dialogicreading
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oldandrewuk
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StuartLock MargHatfield urban_teacher
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ICTmagic
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cherrylkd jackieschneider MrsThorne
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aknill
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travelgeordie
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tstarkey1212 cristinataboada
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ChrisChivers2 davidErogers
to decide what topics are taught and how we 'do' them. They love it! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @frogphilp I didn't suggest teaching them, I suggested 'supporting' them. Some children need help doing all three! #ukedchat @bramleyapplecc I did enjoy it and to some extent will be starting to in my next topic... Will see how it goes #ukedchat @A_Weatherall #ukedchat 140 characters to fix the curriculum innit @RobAnthony01 Some people saw their own arm off to escape from a crevice. Doesn't mean being helped by mountain rescue is bad. #ukedchat But all of those are clearly planned and directed (ie led) by me, the teacher. #ukedchat Oh no, all this facilitator cr*p rearing its misinformed head again! #ukedchat @pibbott @StuartLock Good Point! Tell the SLT Team that! #ukedchat @A_Weatherall Agreed. I think it is one of those topics where you are passionately for or against pupil led learning. Alas! #ukedchat @dialogicreading Sorry, I'm still agreeing with @HeyMissSmith Guidance needed even when trust is there #ukedchat @davidhunter - there parents do! #ukedchat @A_Weatherall I know. I feel a bit sorry for the people who voted for this topic and aren't getting any help with it #ukedchat RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh: MT @MissLapere: Guy Claxtons work is great for a shared language easy for students and facilitators #ukedchat @jackieschneider @PeterSpencer88 I think motivation, in all things, is key in learner led. #ukedchat @Pekabelo @oldandrewuk @frogphilp Exactly! #ukedchat #ukedchat Criterion based expectations show the direction of travel, guide in-lesson discussion and supports evaluation. group/individual @Stephen_Logan Nail on the head. How many projects
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Julian3576
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simonrockett
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londongary
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davidErogers
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davidhunter
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thingsbehindsun
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BrightAire
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dialogicreading
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MrsThorne
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LibsNich
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dandesignthink
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ewanmcintosh
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davidErogers
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oldandrewuk
aren't led by the people leading them and not the boss? #ukedchat #ukedchat sorry... working link for Tudor house project that lead to Aztec treasure found in shipwreck: http://t.co/Cll1sosP #ukedchat It's been interesting tonight, esp since I'm currently 6000 words into an MA essay on this very topic. see http://t.co/72Sww09K RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat: Pupil led learning is making elephants, finding out they escape & wondering why some have become heavy: h ... RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat sorry... working link for Tudor house project that lead to Aztec treasure found in shipwreck: http://t.co/Cll1sosP IDEA: Chn choose topic.Run project.Teach how to: research,do tables,draw diagrams,read maps.Chn write their own content.#ukedchat #oldschool P4C works well - plenty of stimulus material on my pinterest: http://t.co/VsPug2xb #ukedchat @davidErogers - I guess a criticism might be if yr students might learn more (but not leadership) if more directed. #ukedchat @cherrylkd @HeyMissSmith At no point have I said to eliminate guidance. Who did? #strawmanargument #ukedchat RT @davidErogers: My main point is that we need to stop thinking of learning as something that happens in classrooms at all. #ukedchat RT @DrJohnLTaylor: 'Better a guide at the side than a sage on the stage'. (Alison King) #ukedchat cant believe so many against pll.without pll how will students learn to motivate themselves when they go off to further ed or work #ukedchat .@StuartLock @Rogers_Suzanne (Re)read Claxton, Wiliam, Perkins & Hattie to see how imprtnt studnts owning learning is fr succss #ukedchat BTW, most of my Yr 11 lessons in the next 2 weeks will be led by me to prep for an exam - I'm the expert after all #ukedchat @RobAnthony01 @benking01 @bellaale #ukedchat Nobody needs to be taught how to learn. In fact, if they did, then it couldn't be done.
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camaxwell
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urban_teacher davidhunter
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ICTmagic
20:45:56
travelgeordie
20:45:57
danielharvey9
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Sarah__wright1 jackieschneider oldandrewuk
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danielharvey9
20:46:17
MargHatfield
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Wonderacademy
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ChrisChivers2
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ewanmcintosh ICTmagic DebbieHolley1 benking01
Maybe classrooms should be for learning to pass exams only. Question is 'Where do students go to learn important stuff?' #ukedchat @StuartLock work rate: 85% student 15% teacher policy #ukedchat @jackieschneider parents as customers. there's an idea i've heard before! ;) #ukedchat Interested to know when change from passive observer to active member of society/work place happens if pupils make no input @sch. #ukedchat Claxtons 4rs are used across the whole school where I work so is consistent and not a separate where other systems fail #ukedchat @HeyMissSmith @cherrylkd #ukedchat Task - design a starter looking at different boiling points of hydrocarbons Support them to develop it #ukedchat Does PLL suit all children? How do you include those who are less likely to engage with peers? @DHESolutionsLtd - i don't understand?! Eifell Tower?! #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat Driving instructors still tell you what to do. RT @cherrylkd: @danielharvey9 @heymisssmith Think we may be basically arguing same point. It's a strange #ukedchat tonight RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat In the absence of adult leadership & authority kids do not become autonomous, they become slaves to the mob. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I was like you...until the day I discovered Jesus..let the children come to me,independently and in small groups #ukedchat Thoughts on impact in learning. High stakes, collaboration and personalisation. http://t.co/5GuhFXCO @StuartLock No - a good distinction. The language around all of this is a bit (too) crowdsourced for comfort #ukedchat @oldandrewuk But who is steering. #ukedchat @ICTmagic @a_weatherall #ukedchat but 'marmite' type discussion is fantastic! @HeyMissSmith @cherrylkd Me too, but I enjoy listening
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20:47:13
DebbieHolley1
20:47:17
ewanmcintosh
20:47:25
CaptainGove
20:47:27
Pekabelo
20:47:29
GaryAveryITT
20:47:50
lizzie_h18
20:48:03
ewanmcintosh
20:48:08
travelgeordie
20:48:14
davidhunter
20:48:15
pibbott
20:48:21
danielharvey9
20:48:27
ewanmcintosh
20:48:38
syded06
20:48:44 20:49:02 20:49:15
dialogicreading mike_gunn camaxwell
& can happily listen to a lecture for hrs! Not all 30 in a classroom will! #ukedchat RT @simonrockett: #ukedchat It's been interesting tonight, esp since I'm currently 6000 words into an MA essay on this very topic. see h ... .@StuartLock the language is also pushing people to one side or another of a false dichotomy. The middle is hard to understand #ukedchat My ears are burning; are you lot singing my praises again? #Ukedchat @fleckneymike @oldandrewuk @cristinataboada @frogphilp I'd say some teachers stifle creativity in the classroom #ukedchat I think I am going to become a driving instructor! #UKEdChat RT @ICTmagic: @oldandrewuk But who is steering.-----> good point! #Ukedchat .@StuartLock It's also the reason I tend not to enjoy #ukedchat discussions: too rapid, few listen since there's no time, no space 2 reflect Would have thought all schools would encourage PLL these days and all the acronyms and jargon can disappear and is simply learning #ukedchat RT @CaptainGove: My ears are burning; are you lot singing my praises again? #Ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 #ukedchat Yes, and do so regularly. Some prefer to be taught, others to discover. Sometimes change their minds twice or more RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I was like you...until the day I discovered Jesus..let the children come to me,independently a ... .@StuartLock And if they can tell you why they learned it then you've got it lock, stock and barrel. #ukedchat @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Thoughts on impact in learning. High stakes, collaboration and personalisation http://t.co/TVaYbV9L worth a look @GaryAveryITT How did you come to that decision? Did someone tell you to do it? #ukedchat RT @davidErogers: The nursery my 3 yr old goes to has pupil led learning. It's called play ;-) #ukedchat @davidhunter @jackieschneider Hate the 'customer'
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20:49:15
oldandrewuk
20:49:19
ewanmcintosh
20:49:28
C_Farr0w
20:49:30
dockers_hoops
20:49:33
Sarah__wright1
20:49:35
jackieschneider
20:49:40
pibbott
20:49:50
DebbieHolley1
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GaryAveryITT
20:50:04
ChrisChivers2
20:50:14
oldandrewuk
20:50:17
Julian3576
20:50:17
dialogicreading
20:50:27
wclou
20:50:29 20:50:30
080Belle oldandrewuk
analogy. Teacher-student & teacher-parent relationship is more complex than that #ukedchat @dialogicreading @RobAnthony01 #ukedchat It's not ignorance to think psychology has moved on since the 1930s. @StuartLock So when they leave school, are your students self-sufficient in terms of their own learning? When do you "let go" #ukedchat I missed the biggest chunk of #ukedchat tonight because of piles of marking. Enjoy that irony RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I was like you...until the day I discovered Jesus..let the children come to me,independently a ... 10 mins left of a heated #ukedchat So, PLL does it have a place in your classroom and why? @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I was like you...until the day I discovered Jesus. >> is he in your class? #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 #ukedchat And it always feels brave, observed or not! RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Thoughts on impact in learning. High stakes, collaboration and personalisation. http://t.co/5GuhFXCO @dialogicreading No, I learnt it all by myself... #UKEdChat RT @ewanmcintosh: .@StuartLock And if they can tell you why they learned it then you've got it lock, stock and barrel. #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat Already mentioned feedback. But that and direct instruction are what works. #ukedchat Pupil led learning is about setting up the classroom as mission control and discovering: https://t.co/ZWW4iUwa @oldandrewuk @RobAnthony01 That's why I love Neil Mercer. Who exactly have you been reading!?! #ukedchat RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I was like you...until the day I discovered Jesus..let the children come to me,independently a ... RT @CaptainGove: My ears are burning; are you lot singing my praises again? #Ukedchat @ICTmagic No. #ukedchat
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dmurray742
20:50:38
ewanmcintosh
20:50:51 20:50:54 20:50:56 20:50:58
C_Farr0w PeterSpencer88 nicoladarling78 rachelfernley
20:51:07
Sarah__wright1
20:51:10
oldandrewuk
20:51:11
ewanmcintosh
20:51:16
Teachric
20:51:20
dandesignthink
20:51:21
1moniqued
20:51:25
BrightAire
20:51:27
StuartLock
20:51:37 20:51:50 20:52:01 20:52:07
virkjay davidErogers bekblayton oldandrewuk
RT @davidErogers: My main point is that we need to stop thinking of learning as something that happens in classrooms at all. #ukedchat @StuartLock I *do* get bothered by that, because school is about prepping for lifelong learning. It's our one solid chance #ukedchat As for PPL, it's not possible without some guidance and overseeing anyway. Never truly PPL is it? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk but not excluding some pupil-led learning? #ukedchat @bramleyapplecc thank you! Will do #ukedchat RT @CaptainGove: My ears are burning; are you lot singing my praises again? #Ukedchat RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat Pupil led learning is about setting up the classroom as mission control and discovering: https://t.co/ZWW4iUwa @DHESolutionsLtd @MMcMahonTEP #ukedchat It's not that we can't learn by ourselves. It's just slower. @StuartLock And ample research to show that we can't transfer to long-term memory experiences that mean little to us #ukedchat RT @C_Farr0w: As for PPL, it's not possible without some guidance and overseeing anyway. Never truly PPL is it? #ukedchat #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery RT @syded06: Just had a look at the #ukedchat timeline and quite amused by the argument only direct instruction approach to learning wo ... Able pupil leaders set the same ambitious goals for themselves that their teachers would set. #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh Much more so, because they know more. The more they know, the more they want to learn and can learn #ukedchat RT @CaptainGove: My ears are burning; are you lot singing my praises again? #Ukedchat @StuartLock @ewanmcintosh so learning is all about knowing stuff? #ukedchat or is it something more? @bramleyapplecc @rkieran thanks. Its good to read some classroom based stuff! #ukedchat @dandesignthink #ukedchat Not all doctors are
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20:52:13
BrightAire
20:52:13
camaxwell
20:52:14
katzb21
20:52:16
Sarah__wright1
20:52:24
jackieschneider
20:52:25
bekblayton
20:52:34
MsFindlater
20:52:46
bramleyapplecc
20:52:52
katzb21
20:52:53
davidhunter
20:53
oldandrewuk
20:53:03
James_Bowkett
20:53:05
lizzie_h18
20:53:10
ewanmcintosh
competent. Self-medication is not the answer. The good bit is that the pupil set the goal. Ownership. Motivation. #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh @StuartLock clearly students aren't self-sufficient enough after leaving school. We still have problems in FE & HE. #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 yes every type of learning is welcome, especially collaborative, engaging, motivating styles of learning. #ukedchat RT @dandesignthink: #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery RT @dandesignthink: #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery RT @dandesignthink: #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery RT @dandesignthink: #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery #ukedchat worked in misguided school with 'pupil led' yr 7 scheme. Watched girl paint a box ( badly) for 3 wks! We are needed! RT @dandesignthink: #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery @oldandrewuk immediate feedback at that.numbers game says direct fback can only be on a 1:30 ratio.Peer feedback improves odds. #ukedchat @dandesignthink #ukedchat But I am glad you are making it clear that a lack of trust in teachers is part of this ideology. Whoaa folks #UKEdChat A New Year Argument! You are all right. Quality teaching uses full range of strategies as appropriate. @Sarah__wright1 yes as I want children to enjoy school as well as learn and they are more likely to do this with some ownership #Ukedchat @StuartLock The evidence that not teaching kids how to think is OK as long as they learn stuff is non-existent #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1 20:53:12 MsFindlater
20:53:12
oldandrewuk
20:53:13
Sarah__wright1
20:53:19
DrJohnLTaylor
20:53:31
Sarah__wright1
20:53:34
benking01
20:53:37
davidErogers
20:53:49
BrightAire
20:53:57
Stephen_Logan
20:53:59
oldandrewuk
20:54
Wonderacademy
20:54:02
C_Farr0w
20:54:03 20:54:04 20:54:05
londongary Pekabelo ChrisChivers2
20:54:13 20:54:14
ewanmcintosh Teachric
RT @ICTmagic: @oldandrewuk But who is steering. #ukedchat RT @Teachric: As usual @oldandrewuk has taken the nail and smashed it completely to smithereens with his tweets during #ukedchat RT @BrightAire: The good bit is that the pupil set the goal. Ownership. Motivation. #ukedchat @mrpeel @DrJohnLTaylor I see it as a progression: more didactic at the outset, when frameworks are taught; more facilitatory later #ukedchat RT @BrightAire: Able pupil leaders set the same ambitious goals for themselves that their teachers would set. #ukedchat @cherrylkd @HeyMissSmith But our #LearningToLearn really works! - masses of genuine Student-led learning http://t.co/QQaT8cCx #ukedchat @hawkins_joyce But for the rest of the time it's amixed bag of stuff - my point is that use the method that's most approriate #ukedchat If a pupil sets a weak goal then the teacher scaffolds them in setting another "invisibly" or explicitly. #ukedchat @ewanmcintosh the further you progress in education it's about independence and driving your own learning. Starts in school. #ukedchat @lizzie_h18 That's because I was listing the most effective classroom methods, not because I forgot. #ukedchat #ukedchat There is a more common sense approach-it's not all or nothing ..10 things I know about pupil-led learning..http://t.co/4ZanX5kW PPL- just another bullshit buzzword. What about just inspiring and being interesting? #ukedchat RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat sorry... working link for Tudor house project that lead to Aztec treasure found in shipwreck: http://t.co/Cll1sosP @Teachric @oldandrewuk oh for pity's sake. #ukedchat #ukedchat Children who learn the value of learning, more likely to value teacher talk as part of the process. Know how with show how. @StuartLock If a topic means something to a kid they will learn more, deeper, faster. Fact. #ukedchat RT @C_Farr0w: PPL- just another bullshit buzzword.
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20:54:27
OpenVirtualSTEM
20:54:30
dialogicreading
20:54:32
mrgibbenglish
20:54:43
davidhunter
20:54:46
nicoladarling78
20:54:48
Gary_Fev
20:54:51
1moniqued
20:54:57 20:55:01 20:55:03
syded06 ukedchat Sarah__wright1
20:55:04
urban_teacher
20:55:04
oldandrewuk
20:55:12
davidErogers
20:55:12
StephenPerse
20:55:16 20:55:24
lizzie_h18 GaryAveryITT
What about just inspiring and being interesting? #ukedchat Workshops: A Pupil led learning... classroom?! By writing guided instructions set by teacher's containing a variety of exercises #ukedchat. @bramleyapplecc That's an example of a poorly implemented scheme, not a poor theory #ukedchat @StuartLock do u not fear that pupils' ability & confidence may be hampered by the fact the teacher ALWAYS knows best? #ukedchat @jackieschneider @camaxwell we formally give parents 15 minutes each per year.that's not being answerable #ukedchat RT @James_Bowkett: Whoaa folks #UKEdChat A New Year Argument! You are all right. Quality teaching uses full range of strategies as appro ... I can't believe some of the responses to #ukedchat student led learning! Try to inspire & motivate your students not lecture them! Love that I can sleep in and still butt in on the end of a great convo by following a hashtag! Thanks #ukedchat !! @ewanmcintosh @syded06 @oldandrewuk surely a man of your calibre hasn't taken to retweeting praise from others :)) #ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? #ukedchat A final question, What does PLL give children that didactive teacher led sessions don't? RT @dandesignthink: #ukedchat hate to think out future relies on our young been told to learn instead of developing a passion for discovery @HeyMissSmith @mrpeel Kids turn up at secondary unready to learn, often without basic numeracy & literacy. #ukedchat @Gary_Fev that sounded like a stern lecture ;-) #ukedchat great point RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat There is a more common sense approach-it's not all or nothing ..10 things I know about pupil-led learning.. ... @oldandrewuk well discussion is one of those #Ukedchat If we engage.motivate & inspire, we will have PLL. There is nothing new here. #UKEdChat
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20:55:25
ewanmcintosh
20:55:34 20:55:43
StuartLock DrJohnLTaylor
20:55:46
simonrockett
20:55:54
sidchip64
20:55:59
thingsbehindsun
20:56:01
jmfoster11
20:56:09
oldandrewuk
20:56:13
ewanmcintosh
20:56:15
MrsThorne
20:56:17
Julian3576
20:56:24
Sarah__wright1
20:56:25
tstarkey1212
20:56:27
SteveCooke
20:56:28
travelgeordie
20:56:30 20:56:32
OllieOrange2 oldandrewuk
@StuartLock I'm doing the best with what you're giving as I say, Twitter too brief to understand evrythg wr trn 2 sy ;-) #ukedchat @davidErogers @ewanmcintosh Have already said it's not just about knowing stuff. #ukedchat Ideas for engaging students in philosophical enquiry. http://t.co/G4tFAJbU #ukedchat #ukedchat there is actually a very limited amout of data on PLL - as far as I can see there are no peer reviewed studies on it 140 chars is destined to generate more heat than it will light - leave it to the academics - or at least in real life over coffee! #ukedchat Tonight's topic would have benefitted from greater focus but some very interesting points nonetheless #ukedchat RT @InnovateMySchl: The importance of teaching students mental toughness http://t.co/4eqhiS3G by @SkySportsLFS #pegeeks #ukedchat @BrightAire #ukedchat Fundamentally, I want kids to learn stuff. @davidErogers From @StuartLock: "because they know more. The more they know, the more they want to learn and can learn" #ukedchat @C_Farr0w what's PPL? Do you mean PLL? #confused #ukedchat #ukedchat Pupil led learning is exploring caves, investigating light & dark, circuits and imagining: http://t.co/KWPte9yk RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat Children who learn the value of learning, more likely to value teacher talk as part of the process. Know ho ... @dandesignthink #ukedchat They're more than capable of both IMO. Learning isn't all about passion - it can be a hard slog sometimes. RT @DrJohnLTaylor: Ideas for engaging students in philosophical enquiry. http://t.co/G4tFAJbU #ukedchat Remove all assessment and boundaries of traditional subjects radical but is being done well in other countries #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @lizzie_h18 What kind of discussion? #ukedchat @Pekabelo @cristinataboada @frogphilp #ukedchat I
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Sarah__wright1
20:56:53
Gary_Fev
20:57:13
C_Farr0w
20:57:17
ICTmagic
20:57:25
dialogicreading
20:57:29
MissLapere
20:57:29
HeyMissSmith
20:57:35
oldandrewuk
20:57:44
Michael_Merrick
20:57:48
DebbieHolley1
20:57:58
cherrylkd
20:58
bramleyapplecc
20:58:04 20:58:07
jackieschneider davidErogers
20:58:07
1moniqued
know. It's about replacing learning with play. RT @Gary_Fev: I can't believe some of the responses to #ukedchat student led learning! Try to inspire & motivate your students not l ... I wish I could teach&engage my students the way students can when they lead their own learning! show them your learning from them #ukedchat Don't pupils do their own learning anyway? We just make sure they do it right. Either through feedback or correcting!? #ukedchat Final thought: Learning is a collaborative pursuit, whether it comes from teacher, child, visitor, parent, book author. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @BrightAire Learn stuff? Seems more like you want to teach them things. #ukedchat @mrgibbenglish @StuartLock Exactly the point&we DON'T ALWAYS KNOW BEST!They're not empty vessels to be filled like Piaget thought #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @mrpeel similarly some children leave secondaries unready for jobs STILL lacking in basic numeracy and literacy. #ukedchat @lizzie_h18 #ukedchat Ignorance is a bad thing. It does need fixing, If you don't believe that, then get out of the classroom. RT @Teachric: As usual @oldandrewuk has taken the nail and smashed it completely to smithereens with his tweets during #ukedchat RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat Pupil led learning is exploring caves, investigating light & dark, circuits and imagining: http://t.co/KWP ... @benking01 @heymisssmith Thank you. I'll have a read when I get chance #ukedchat @dialogicreading #ukedchat yep. It was bad. Kids going AWOL, totally not engaged n teachers totally lost. A whole year down the drain! @sidchip64 - really?!! You think education should be left to the academics?!? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @lizzie_h18 ignorance of what? #ukedchat @syded06 @ewanmcintosh it has!! And from the input on the hashtag a whole load of tweeters!! Would be great to storify this one! #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 3 Jan 2013 Hosted by @Sarah__Wright1 20:58:25 20:58:26 20:58:37 oldandrewuk GaryAveryITT Os190
20:58:37
BrightAire
20:58:56
ChrisChivers2
20:59:06
davidErogers
20:59:14
A_Weatherall
20:59:35 20:59:36
lizzie_h18 ukedchat
20:59:41
ewanmcintosh
20:59:43
ukedchat
20:59:59
MissLapere
21:00:12
Lornachampcork
21:00:13
ukedchat
@dukkhaboy You can't teach kids to learn. They are born learning. #ukedchat Be flexible in the classroom, PLL sometimes takes care of itself. #UKEdChat Who led the #ukedchat this evening? At times it lacked some focus even though some good points were aired. Pupil lead'ship's a continuum. Direction at one end. Autonomy at the other. Most students benefit from opp. to make decisions #ukedchat #ukedchat Children should leave school as active learners in their own right. Skills and Knowledge matter together. Know how with show how @oldandrewuk @dukkhaboy the thing is that most teachers have such a narrow definition of what learning is #ukedchat @simonrockett @DebbieHolley1 @ICTmagic Jeremy Vine or Jeremy Kyle. #ukedchat Let people share their ideas and feedback. #bullinachinashop @oldandrewuk describing children as ignorant is a pretty poor argument for didactic teaching! #Ukedchat Most relevant links from this #ukedchat session have been collected at http://t.co/vwCmiag2 Wow. I rarely engage in #ukedchat (time/kids/sleep). I can add a new reason: too brief to have rich presentation of *evidence*. Before you go... vote on next week's discussion hosted by @DebbieHolley1 at http://t.co/7WAHFPy8 #ukedchat @Stephen_Logan @ewanmcintosh Should start in P1 and continue. 1 of the best compliments as a tcher is how indep lrners kids are #ukedchat #ukedchat My observations reveal how good/outstanding teaching creates the conditions for pupil led & independent learning It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @Sarah__Wright1 for hosting tonight. The archive will be at http://t.co/mEn6cLmR soon. #ukedchat
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