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:^*^^ ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS 'f-C.
^ •^ I would like to thank Dr. Jat.es Epperson for his tinte and effort . init.attng th.s
project. I also appreciate the patience and assistance I received from Dr. Benjamin Duran
and Dr. Carl Seaquist. Above all, I want to thank the chair of my committee, Dr. Gary Harris
who at an inconvenient time inadamantly took the responsibility and nurture of my thesis. If
it was not for him, I would still be working on this thesis today. Thank you from the bottom
of my heart.
I also extend thanks to all of my friends, family, and, especially, classmates who have
supported me through this graduate school experience. I, especially, appreciate the patience,
understanding, and support from my closest friends, Leah, Traci, Richard, Ruby, and
Amanda during the numerous times when I was certain there was no end in sight. Man>
thanks also goes to Texas Tech's Ultimate Frisbee team for allowing me to use you all as an
I also would like to thank Jim for re-introducing me to Christ. Somewhere along the
way, I became spiritually lost wandering aimlessly with despair, and although it occurred at
the tail end of my graduate school experience, I have found Christ again which has allowed
Finally, I thank God. I know through him, I have the ability to do anything.
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TABLE OF CONTEXTS
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS ii
ABSTRACT v
CHAPTER
I. INTRODUCTION 1
IIL METHODOLOGY 11
r / . RESULTS 13
4.LI Student A 13
4.1.2 Father A 22
4.1.3 Teacher A 26
4.2.1 Student B 31
4.2.2 Father B 42
V. CONCLUSIONS 54
5.1.1 Student A 54
5.1.2 Student B 56
3.2 Conclusion 58
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REFERENCES 60
APPENDIX 62
IV
ABSTRACT
In this study we are interested in those social and academic factors that might
contribute to success in college level calculus for Hispanic students. In particular how do
these factors compare with success factors for white non-Hispanic students. Via in-depth
case studies we attempt to isolate and compare such factors for two students, one Hispanic
and one white non-Hispanic, who successfully completed a one year calculus sequence at a
INTRODUCTION
Students who perform successfiiUy in calculus tend to have strong study habits,
adequate math preparation prior to college matriculation, and positive influences such as
mentors and/or supportive parents. Statistically, among these students, very few Hispanics
appear with the vast majority being white non-Hispanic. This raises an obvious question: To
what extent do the factors that contribute to success in calculus for Hispanic students differ
from those that contribute to the success in calculus for white non-Hispanics?
Prior research has explored the challenges and resources related to Hispanic culture,
language, and economic status in attempts to examine the structural phenomena that
contribute to Hispanic marginalization within the institutions and its potential effect on
academic performance. The research identified faculty contact and mentoring, social and
academic integration, parental and sibling influence, and, of course, study habits as the main
factors that affect the achievement in calculus for Hispanic students, just as for non-Hispanic
students.
Among these selective factors, one of the more reoccurring and popular factors is
faculty involvement. It is felt that faculty role modeling positively affects students'
attainment and retention in college. Although high school faculty is seen as an influential
factor in preparing students for college matriculation and math/science majoring, college
integration into the university are necessary for students' persistence in college through
degree completion. In this context social integration involves faculty interaction, peer
relations, and involvement in extracurricular activities. Again, are these factors of equal
In this study we are interested in those social and academic factors that might
contribute to success in college level calculus for Hispanic students. In particular how do
these factors compare with success factors for white non-Hispanic students? Via in-depth
case studies we attempt to isolate and compare such factors for two students, one Hispanic
and one white non-Hispanic, who successfully completed a one-year calculus sequence at a
LITERARY REVIEW
We summarize those studies from the literature which we feel ha\e been in our study.
Chinese and 20 Blacks. He was interested in these two ethnic groups because the Chinese
excelled academically in mathematics while the Blacks perpetually struggled in this area. He
discovered that the amount of time the Chinese studied was nowhere near important as how
they studied. The Chinese devoted just a couple more hours a week studying more than the
Blacks but their most successful studying tool was that they spent some of that time stud\ ing
in groups. This discovery explained the minorities' lack of success in calculus far better than
the other preconceived beliefs such as inadequate preparation, motivation gap, lack of family
support or understanding of higher education, and income. After realizing the effects of
program for students providing not only tutoring, time management, and study skills but.
assist and help these students, he had to convince them that success in college required peer
group working and studying so as to create for them a community based on shared
In their 1997 study, Terenzini and Pascarella [1997] studied freshman attrition for a
random sample of 500 students in the College of Arts and Sciences at Syracuse University.
In particular, they w ere interested in patterns of social and academic integration that
contact with faculty members outside the classroom and their nonacademic li\ es w ere more
demanding than that of leavers. Also stayers were more involved in the social system of the
university. Their results tended to support Tinto's [1975] view that social and academic
withdraw.
Mayo, Murguia, and Padilla [1995] examined the formal and informal social
integration among 400 students from Hispanic, Black, and Native American groups and 400
White students. They found that relationships with faculty and ethnically matched role
models are successful in contributing to academic achievement. They claim that formal
social integration has a much greater significance on the effects of academic performance
than informal. However, this is not necessarily so with Hispanics since their social life
impedes with their studies negatively affecting their academics. Nevertheless, Hispanics do
consider student organizations as an important necessity for their existence and success in
college so Mayo, Murguia, and Padilla suggests that the development of well-organized
ethnic-specific student groups would prove beneficial to the minority groups on campus.
Gainen [1995] examined four factors that grant some students success and not others
who possess similar ability and interest. She claims that the most limiting factor in a
claim is supported when considering that of the HS graduates, only approximately one-fourth
have the sufficient mathematical and science preparation to proceed into SME majors in
college and among this one-fourth, only 11% of women compared to 14% of men have the
likely to succeed in challenging majors, however, in contrast, when peers are uninterested in
Students often find themselves uncomfortable and alienated and yet are unable to
determine the cause. Gainen attributes these feelings of the students to the professor's low
introductory SME courses, bad teaching, poor advising, and unhelpful faculty. Again.
Gainen has shown that faculty plays an important role in the attraction and retainment of
students in SME majors, and proclaims that success of these students depends at least in part
In the secondary analysis study of Hedges and Nowell [1995]. six large data sets were
collected between 1960-1992. They found that although average sex differences are small,
females perform better in reading and writing whereas the males perform better in science
and math, and concluded, that the differences in ability arise because of differences in
Rendon and Triana [1989] were interested in factors that impede Hispanic students
progress in science and mathematics at the high school level. Among the factors they
6. Discriminatory practices
8. Curricular deficiencies
9. Teacher shortages
Attinasi [1989] analyzed interviews with 18 Hispanic students from a single entering
class of a large public southwestern university 8 to 11 months following the end of their
freshman year. His intent was to identify, from the students' point-of-view, factors that
affected their decisions to persist or not to persist in their university programs. He grouped
these factors into two categories: factors involved with getting ready to go to college and
factors involved with getting in. Getting ready involved initial expectation, fraternal
influence, mentor influence, and direct and indirect simulation. Getting in involved physical,
social, and academic concerns. Being able to deal with the latter three was shown as a
persisters and nonpersisters and their attitudes and perceptions. Persisters pertain to students
who remained in college upon degree completion whereas nonpersisters are those who
withdrew before degree completion. They found that persisters, especially the Hispanics,
experienced more interracial contact prior to college and had more positive attitudes tow ards
their college instructors than nonpersisters, and that involvement in ethnic organizations.
accumulation of college friends, adjustment to college life, and openness to equity policies
were shown as predictors of college satisfaction among the persisters. Of all these factors,
students that felt the most positive about their college instructors were the most satisfied with
In the case study paper, Galindo and Escamilla [1995] examined two Chicanos, one
male and one female, through autobiographies, biographical sketches, and interviews in order
to analyze their educational experiences and the sociocultural factors that influenced those
experiences. The female, Linda contributes her good grades to her early foundation in learning
established in her home and at church and reports that her family highly supported her efforts
in education. Although she had the support of her family and church, she struggled with her
ethnic identity in HS and college. Due to her different cultural background and social
antagonism, she felt alienated in school and eventually in church. She contributes this
alienation to the lack of role models who could have provided an example of how other
minorities had negotiated the system. On the other hand, the male, Richard, was ridiculed in
HS for being culturally different making him feel alienated and socially outcasted. He learned
to overcome this in college and succeeded academically and socially. Although his father's
occupation was not conducive to educational success, which alienated him from students and
teachers, his parents supported his education by allowing time for school and homework. They
also had all the children serve as tutors to one another including Richard. Besides the support
of his family, Richard also attributed his educational success to the impact that his pre-college
teachers had on his and his sibling's schooling. He mentions that these teachers were not just
exceptional but were extraordinary since they were constantly going out of their way to help
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A sample of 100 Mexican-American undergraduate students that were divided into
two divisions: lower (age 18-21) and upper (age 20-30) were examined by Lopez [1995] in
this statistical paper. He is particularly concerned with the age and gender patterns in the
perceptions of challenges and resources that stem from the family, peer relationships, and the
perceived more racial discrimination, and received more academic encouragement from
siblings and from male friends than lower division students. There were no age-related
differences found between the two divisions in their perceptions of challenges and resources.
Hilton and Lee [1988] studied the data obtained from two studies: one which
surveyed 23,500 high school seniors with follow up surveys every 2 years for 6 years, the
second a similar study begirming with high school sophomores. They found that most
entering college. And by the first year of college Hispanic students are less likely to be
interested in majoring in MSE than either blacks or whites, while showing more interest in
Jay and D'Augelh's [1991] study focused on assessing patterns of social support of
AA and White freshmen attending a predominantly White university and their adjustment to
university life. Their participants included 81 White and 84 African American freshmen
attending a 4-year institution. They found that predictors of adjustment were based on first
Sax [1992] samples 15,050 students from 392 different 4-year universities. She was
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than women. However, women who persist in the mathematically oriented disciplines and
participate in tutoring other students tend to gain confidence in their mathematical abilities.
On the other hand, interaction with faculty and attendance of a public college promotes a
also determined that predictors of mathematical self-confidence are more evident in the pre-
college experiences, and therefore, are stronger influences on students' level of mathematical
confidence.
In Carter's meta-analysis [1987], Astin showed that minority students prefer certain
academic disciplines, but the biological sciences, engineering, mathematics, and physical
sciences are not included in their preferences of studies. An exception to this is Black
students who are graduating with degrees in mathematics but from black institutions (Trent,
1984). Besides feeling excluded, discouraged, criticized, and disregarded, women also feel
like they are betraying their family, friends, and relatives (Sandler & Hall, 1982). These
feelings of alienation, personal isolation, and rejection by the instructors in the classroom are
more apparent among the Black women. However, it is with these minority women that once
they have established status and success, they develop a strong sense of self-confidence,
perform effectively and sufficiently in their respective careers, and, most importantly,
encourage all other women to consider studying the fields (Epstien, 1973; Scott, 1977; Scott
& Horhn, 1975). When determining a career choice, it seems that prestige, nature of the
work, and personal characteristics affect occupational preferences (Anderson & others, 1984;
Axelson, 1974; Kanter, 1975; Knudson, 1982). Among the women who choose
nontraditional careers, it was discovered that their success is attributed to having a high
achievement orientation, disregard of sex role stereotyping, a development of better stud)
academic achievement.
Boli, Allen, and Payne [1983] looked at students in introductory mathematics and
chemistry courses at Stanford University in the fall of 1997. They were interested in gender
related factors that might contribute to success or failure in such course. They found no
direct gender factors related to course performance; however, female students did appear to
Erekson [1989] studied 544 undergraduate students from a random sample of 100
students at Miami University to determine factors related to students grade point average
(GPA). He found that library effort and course selection did not significantly affect GPA,
but male students had significantly lower average GPA than did female students.
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CHAPTER III
METHODOLOGY
In the fall semester of 1999 there were 443 students enrolled in the first semester
calculus course. Of these students 88 received a grade of "B" or higher and maintained a grade
point average of at least 2.5. The 88 students were comprised of the following (Table 3.1).
Males 6 61 67
Females 5 16 21
Total 11 77 88
To avoid questions regarding possible gender dependence of success factors in our comparison,
we chose two male students, one Hispanic and one white non-Hispanic. We refer to the
Students A and B were selected based on their similar academic credentials and prior
mathematics preparation, with emphasis on major, calculus I grade, SAT/ACT scores, and HS
size and rank. Both students had received the grade "B" in calculus I. Student A*s major was
mechanical engineering and Student B's major was computer engineering. Student A's SAT
score of 600 was comparable to Student's B ACT score of 28. Both students graduated from
their high school highly ranked. Student A ranked 2 out of 527 placing him in the top 1% of
his graduating high school class. Student B ranked 7 out of 457 placing him in the top 2% of
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Once the two students were chosen, personal and phone interview s were conducted
with the students, their fathers and their high school mathematics teachers. All interview s w ere
audio recorded with the full knowledge and permission of each participant. The audio
recordings were later transcribed for future analysis. The students were interviewed in person
with both researchers participating in the questioning of each student. These interviews lasted
approximately one hour each. The students were first asked for information regarding their HS
experience and then for information about their college experience. Information such as time
spent studying, methods of studying, and external and internal influences towards education
The interviews with the fathers were conducted over the phone by one researcher only.
They also lasted approximately one hour each and were audio recorded for later transcription.
The fathers were asked to discuss their prior knowledge and/or observation of their son's
studying habits and behaviors while in HS, their contribution to their son's education, and their
attitude towards math as well as education. Both fathers elaborated on most of the questions
and contributed additional comments outside the realm of our originally prepared questions.
Interviews with the teachers also were audio-recorded phone interview s conducted
solely one researcher and lasting approximately one hour each. The information obtained
from the teachers was almost identical to that from the fathers. Questions focused on the
teachers' prior knowledge and observation of the their student's studying habits and
behaviors while in HS, their contribution to the student's education, what factors they think
lead to the success of that particular student and factors they believe contribute to the success
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CHAPTER IV
RESULTS
Student A attended a large high school in which a majorit\ of the students w ere
Hispanic; he graduated ranked 2 out of his class of 527. He took Algebra I in the 8* grade
followed by Algebra II. geometr}. Trigonometry, and AP (Honors) Calculus in high school.
I went all the w ay through calculus I in high school. Basicalh. the math
preparation I had was through UIL math. So starting in the 6 grade and
through high school, I w as in the UIL math and science competition. That
basically prepared me through high school. My calculus professor in high
school was \er\ good preparing us for college and calculus courses.
When asked if he was alw ays good at mathematics growing up, he responded with
One objective of the interviews with the students was to assess factors dealing with
their motivations for stud>ing mathematics and factors contributing to their confidence levels
with regard to mathematics. We consider two types of such factors, internal and external.
Internal factors involve the students" personality types, learning styles, personal goals, etc.
External factors relate to the influence of mentors, family, peer groups, etc.
The following excerpts from the inter\iew with Student A relate primarih with
internal factors. Personalit> traits are presented first followed by his learning and studying
habits.
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In regards to Student A's personality, the following quotes are presented.
Question: If I asked you how would you describe your moti\'ation level in
studying mathematics in high school, would you describe as "high,"
"moderate," or "below average"? Why?
Response: Moderate in the amount that they wanted me to know but abo\ e
average in the amount I wanted to know. I don't think that in the high schools
that I have known or that I have been to or that I have competed that they
actually demand much of you. But in the competition like UIL, you should
know more. You are expected to know more. In just the mathematics itself, it
is intriguing study, and I like it so I delved into it further.
Question: If I were to ask you about your motivation level and said, "Were
you motivated by your teachers, by your family, internally, or externally?"
Question: So last year, you would have considered it above average? Why?
Response: I was considered about moderate. For the past couple of months
or several weeks, I would say above average. I just see the compelling need
to do so. It's part of my field. That's what it is - mathematics, applied
mathematics.
Response: Right.
Response: I say a little bit of both but more internal than anything else.
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Question: So you have a strong sense of competition?
Question: Did you have any ideas about what mathematics in college w ould
be like?
Response: No I hadn't really thought about it. When I was in the 6th grade, I
never thought about taking calculus. I just saw a book and saw all these
symbols and never thought I would get there. But I just took one course after
another, and it just kind of snowballed, and I was just ready for the next
course.
When asked what it is about mathematics that intrigues him and make him persevere,
he commented, "I think I can do it. I know I can do anyone of these subjects. I don't think it
is beyond me to do anyone of these math problems. Calculus III now I understand it. I
understand pretty well now. It should be ok. Linear algebra, I don't know. The way it is
taught, it just seems to be so abstract so theoretical. It seems to be beyond the scope of the
In regards to Student A's learning style, the following quotes are presented.
Question: Did you feel any kind of pressure in high school to do well in
mathematics that being from friends, teachers, or from parents, brothers, or
sisters? Why or why not?
Question: Why do you say it was UIL that prepared more so than your high
school courses or than your mathematic courses?
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Question: There is something that satisfies you to know that on the test you
beat everybody else?
Response: In the begirming, I take the test or whatever as it comes. I get one
back, and it looks bad. I say that is not the grade I like, and it's me against the
test now. It usually does better after that.
Response: Yea.
Question: So, in other words, if you understand it than you are victorious?
Response: Right
Question: And that allows you to explain it others and that makes you...?
Question: Would you describe the exams and homework assignments in high
school as challenging? Why or why not?
Response: Not really. It just seemed like.... We didn't really put all our
effort into anything. I think that most of the effort or like many just about 20
or 30%. It was adequate enough to go through all the tests. Through college
so far, it has been the same way.
Question: Did your confidence come from having done well or did it come
from....?
Response: I think it comes from having done well m the past and expecting
myself to do well in the fiiture as well as the competitive nature of the class:
It's me vs. the class.
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Question: Do you have high expectafions of yourself?
Response: I think I do a little bit but it's only at the point that I see it as a
competition. If I don't see it as a competition then I don't put as much effort
into it.
Student A's studying style revolved around an individual effort with minor group
involvement both in high school and college. While in college in his calculus class. Student A
studied approximately 2 hours a week, however, this time was reserved only for exams. He did
not consider homework part of studying. He committed an hour to each homework assignment
and an hour and a half to group studying. His studying method involved working extra
problems concentrating on the conceptual problems. He would also read the sections in the
book and write formulas although he didn't particulariy appreciate the textbook due to the
excessive errors found and its literal construction. He preferred working/studying with
students who possessed the same intellectual ability as he or better, and he did not discriminate
students because it reinforced his own knowledge and comprehension of the material. He
considered tutoring a better studying skill than individual studying. When engaged in group
studying, the group, which consisted of himself and his social group friends, would study in a
The following excerpts from the interview with Student A relate primarily with
external factors. The following interchange expands on the initial reference to his high
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basketball coach).. .He would assign homework but never take it up. Only
quizzes and tests count so it kind of forced you to do your homework. So
that's basically hke college.
Question: Somehow he communicated to you, that he had this hope that you
would go on do something more? Is that what you felt from him?
Question: What was it about him you liked other than that method?
Response: You could ask him any question, and he would have the answer
for you. It wouldn't matter what section, why, or the reasoning, proofs or
whatever. He had the answer for everything. He explained it quite clearly.
Question: How do you think your high school teacher became so good at
math? What theories did you have?
Response: I never really thought about it. I just thought it was pretty cool
that he knew so much math. I could ask him anything, and he would know the
answer. My other teachers couldn't do that. Some of them if you took them
out of the book, they got lost a httle bit but he could answer any question. I
thought that was very interesting.
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Question: Is your motivation level in college influenced by your instructors?
Let's talk about last year. Your motivation last year. Why or why not?
Response: In high school, they give practical applications and show you why
you might need it. It just seems like all the courses here are theoretical, you
might need this, you might not. We'll teach you this just because. It just
seems like that.
Student A was curious about his HS teacher's decision to study mathematics, but he
chose not to ask his him since he felt it inappropriate. However, he was not at all curious
about his college professors' decision to major in mathematics. It did not seem to matter to
him nor make a difference. To him, they chose what they wanted as he has chosen what he
Question: What are your parent's wishes for your future career?
Response: They always said whatever makes me happy so I just go with that.
I always felt like I need to something good for me so I picked engineering.
Question: So they kind of told you that you can do what makes you happy
and you feel like pursuing an engineer degree makes you happy right now?
Response: Right.
Question: What role, if any, did your family play in supporting your decision
to come to college?
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Question: Did they encourage you to go on to college or say do whatever you
want to do?
Response: It's basically like a culture type idea. It's like further culture in our
family. I think it is good for all of us.
Response: Like each generation should do better than the previous one so
since the majority of my family members didn't go college. Some graduated,
some have degrees; I should also have a degree and do better.
Question: Growing up did they ever say since maybe you were in 1^^ grade
that you were going to college or did they say...?
Response: They never did put that type of pressure. My dad said I put too
much pressure on myself I think it is just me. I am naturally competitive.
Question: This confidence that you have academically, do you feel like it has
always been or do you feel like it was something that was built up over the
years from you like your parents rewarding, always telling you good job, and
that you were always working hard and being competitive? Do you feel like it
was always there, or it just got stronger through your course of life and
academics?
Question: What kinds of responsibilities did you have in high school? Did
you have to work or did you have to take care of your sister?
Response: No. I was just like a mentor to my sister and that's about it. I
helped my other friends in their subjects. Other than that, I didn't have much
more to do
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The following interchange expands on the initial reference to his high school and
college peers.
Question: If I asked you did you study with others in high school, what would
you say?
Question: Describe your social group in high school like who did you hang
around with?
Response: I don't know if I had a certain chck. I pretty much just hung
around with everyone. We had our own group but it was quite di\ erse.
Response: We had people that were more into like the liberal arts or English
and type of stuff to math or just regular people. We just hung out with
everyone.
Response: Yea, we all kind of did the same thing beside from studying.
Question: If you had to pinpoint a number of people in your social group say
would it be less than 10 or less than 5?
Question: Why were they from your circle of friends and not from outside
your circle of friends?
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Question: How important were your friends' opinions when you were
choosing a place to go like a university ... when you were tr> ing to decide
what university to attend, how important were your friends opinion about
that?
Question: Would you care to explain a little bit what you mean b\ that?
Response: You always have the socialistic type of friends who go out and
party or do something else other than studying.
the social sciences. Bom into an uneducated and working class family that strongly values
education, he chose "the military shortly after high school graduation (since) Vietnam was at
its height" and he thought it better to serve first then pursue an education. He has a high
regard for education and the hard sciences and encourages the pursuance of the mathematical
disciplines although he is not very confident in his ability to perform and comprehend
mathematics. After spending a lifetime working and raising a family, he still entertains the
idea of returning to college for a PhD, if not in the social sciences then, alternatively, in law.
Question: Are there other ways that have not been mentioned that you think t
that your high school could better prepare students for college?
Response: High school itself Oh yea, high school could a lot better job. A
lot of people go out there. You shouldn't have asked me that question. In our
high schools, a lot of educators and even the counselors, I am sorrv to say, I'm
not sorry that's why I am saying it. Seriously, they go up there and they are
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interested in doing what they do and that's it. They don't publicize enough.
They don't tell the kids look if you are going to do this then you should do.
They more or less let the kid and his parents, if he had the help at home, figure
it out mosfly. They give you the degree plan for four \ears, and if you ha\ e
questions, come ask. They don't. Here ask if you want but that's it. I think I
would take a different approach to that. That's my opinion. They could do a
lot better. I think a lot of kids are not prepared for college because somebody
did not tell them this is what you need to do because we ha\e a jr. college
here. I know some kids come back from universities because they w eren't
prepared. That's to me, although the student has a responsibility, the school
bears a lot of the responsibility. That is what they are there for. Yea, they
could do a lot better.
Response: Yea but if you are going for a math major, that's fine and fantastic,
but you almost have to want to teach. Either you want to be a teacher or...
That's fine. There is nothing wrong with that. If that is what the person wants
to do. If you don't want to be a teacher then you need to do something else.
Once they tell me, I just try to put into perspective for him. That's all. You
choose what you want to do. That's it. Easy!
Response: No, no. Heck no! I am serious. I don't want to sound mean or
anything. The teachers, I guess it is still the same—that's how I see it—. For
example, when I was in high school, I didn't know that they were doing me a
disservice by not encouraging me to take algebra. I thought fantastic. I don't
have to go to algebra. I don't have to take algebra in order to graduate. So I
didn't. Nobody would say that if you are going to go or if you are going to do
this then ... nobody would say anything. We thought we were getting away
with something. I went to college after, and I realized that I had to pass
college algebra before I could graduate from any major university. I said
well, that is where I am going to start because if I don't then I am not going to
graduate. So I just started with the basic algebra. The very first one. No
teacher.. .1 can honestly say they did not. I am not saying that I am upset
because really it is a person's responsibility to find out. If you care then you
are going to or if you have someone who cares then they are going to help
you. Everybody else, sometimes, they have their own issues, their own thing
to do.
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Question: You wished that you were a little bit more well informed?
Response: I wish people, educators especially, do more than w hat they are
paid to do. I think that would go a long ways in helping people sometimes
who come from families who are not well educated or not in tuned w ith the
system or the consequences. Educators sometime disappoint me. They don't
share the informafion they have. I wish educators would take more interest in
doing what they are supposed to do.
Response: Oh yea, yea absolutely! I am tired of hearing people say that some
people don't value education and stuff and this and that. I think that is bunk
and uncool. I have never met any parent who did not value education. The
problem is that people don't see that factors and things get in the way of
education and sometimes people have to eat and it is more pressing the
immediate. The immediate need is more pressing than going to school. That
is why you have people who were migrants who leave and go off even to
Lubbock and to the fields and stuff. It is not that they don't value education,
it's because they got to eat. One time I had to I said the same thing.
Teachers, for example, they get their undergraduate degree and then they go to
work. If you ask them, I know a lot of educators, how come those.. .why
haven't you got your Master's degree. Well, it's because I have bills to pay, I
have this to pay. Well, that is the same thing with people who go out and
work...to eat. The have priorities. The same reason why you are not getting
your Master's degree immediately is the same reason they don't. They have
bills to pay and they have to eat. It is not because they don't value education.
Question: You don't think that it could have been the teachers in college who
turned you off?
Response: Let me tell you this. This is my experience. I told Jose the same
story. My experience in college was the teacher or professor or whatever he
was .. .he would stand there and interact with the brightest. The questions
would be directed at the brightest. Interaction was between that student and
the teacher.
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and.. .the quadratic equation.' That's it. If he had a question to share, he
would direct at the brightest. He would not direct an\ thing at an>bod} else. I
suppose. Now me. I am thinking. I am not sure. I couldn't say anything but
I imagine that was because this guy doesn't know then Lll ha\ e to explain it
again. Maybe I'll I have to lower how I explain this stuff We went through
it pretty fast. The guys that were the brightest would of course be like this and
this and this.. ..would you share your homework, how did you do this
problem, and how did you do this, this, and that. Sometimes we would get in
groups and get by that way.
Response: He took the higher-level courses. The honor courses, the hard-
core mathematic courses. He went through calculus. I had an influence only
up to 7^^ grade. After that, he lost me. I helped him up to 7^^ maybe 8^^ but
not much more than that. He's a pretty bright guy. I don't know how he got
through. I helped him the early years but not in high school.
Question: Would you describe your child's motivation level in studying
(mathematics) as "high", "moderate", or "below average"? Why?
Question: You said you didn't have to do too much; did you ever pressure
Jose to do well academically?
Response: No, I always told them that doing their best is what they are
suppose to do. I go to work, my wife goes to work, we get paid for doing
what we are suppose to do. I always tell them everybody has a job. Your job
is to do well in school as well as you can. That's the most I can ask. That's it.
I didn't holler and scream if they didn't bring an A home. I just tell them if
that is the best you can do then that is the best you can do. If you need help,
let me know, and we'll do something.
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Question: Do you feel that your child's high school adequately prepares
students for college?
Response: Yea but let me say this. Yes but it was mostly he. I don't want to
say me but it was mosfly him. If there was anybody else, telling him
anything, it was me. His teachers were there. He had very good math
teachers in high school at the higher levels. But the school, if \ou decided to
go the vocational way, they don't do anything or say an> thing. So it is up to
you as the student to meander your way through whatever it is you want to do.
He knew what he wanted to do. He did have all those courses. He was w ell
prepared. I have to give him a lot of credit Jose himself
Response: Yea, I think I may have contributed there because 1 alwa> s put the
stuff in front of him. I always told him. The only concern I had in that regard
was if he was not ready to go out, leave home. I didn't tell him that way. I
made it plain to him that he could go to the jr. college and take his basics then
precede. I made the offer if he wanted to do that before he went on. He was
well aware about all the academic opportunities, and I left it up to him.
years, teaching was unintentional career choice. His first career inclination was coaching
baseball. Since a coaching job was contingent upon him teaching mathematics concurrentK.
he chose the dual career, and as years passed, transferred his love from coaching to teaching.
After the cessation of his coaching career, he sought UIL participation in mathematics in
order to fill the void of competition. In an overview of his career, he comments, "If I had to
The following excerpts from the interview with Teacher A relate to his philosophy
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Question: Did you encourage academic competition in your class among your
students or academic cooperation?
Response: I did encourage that but see I was an UIL sponsor. Most of the
kids were in UIL also. Especially because I wanted them to help each other
not only for that but also for competition. But then there are some kids who
don't want to do it. If they know how to do something then they don't work
with nobody else.
In regards to Teacher A's perspective of his own classes, he comments. "My classes
were very competitive against each other.. .Everybody would compete against each other. 1
In Teacher A's interaction with his students, he never volunteered his rationalization
for majoring in mathematics losing the opportunity to elaborate of his struggles and triumphs
in mathematics because he assumed that they already knew everything about him since he
Response: I came from a poor family myself but I see these kids and try to
help them as much as I could. I wouldn't trade it for any pay. I would spend
hours after school. I would stay late until 5:00 in the e\ening. I would always
tell them, 'If you can win here at the local level then you can win at regional
and at the state.' That is something that you can put on your resume.
Whenever you apply somewhere, people are going to look at you of a sudden.
Not that you just one in district but you also went to the state level. To be
perfectly honest, at our high school, I was the Calculator coach for fifteen
years. Actually 16 but one year, I had cancer. Out of those 16, we won
district 14 times in a row. In the Number Sense, we won half the time or
more.
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Question: What qualities do you feel that students must possess in order to
pursue a career in a mathematics-based discipline?
Response: I feel like for a student to pursue this career, they must first ha\ e a
love for math cause if you don't have a love for math then you are going to be
bored. Next, I think you have to have a lot of patience to soh e problems.
You can't give up too easily. And the next thing, you must be willing to
work. If you don't have those qualities then you won't get an> where.
Response: I usually let them model themselves. I start off easy and let them
work. I had only honors classes so they were fighting for grades for rank in
the class so they would have to stay up. I didn't physically threaten any of
them. I might once in while scare some of them. That was part of it.
Question: If a student lacks theses qualities, what advice do you give the
student?
Response: I have never discouraged anybody. That is one thing I think a lot
of math teachers do wrong. I've known a lot of math teachers to do that
especially teachers at Jr. colleges. I teach at a Jr. College also. There are
teachers where the students come and there and they put some problems on
the board and they say, 'Oh, you can't work this problem cause you don't
belong in this class.'
Response: I think that we can always bring a kid that is down low up to a
certain level.
Question: Do you think that the high school teachers discourage students from
majoring in math?
Response: Yes
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Response: I ask them to keep a notebook. Something that they can w rite
down the formulas in. I could get them to do anything because they like me.
It didn't matter how hard I worked them, they enjoyed it cause they liked me.
It took me about five years to become a good math teacher. If they like you
then you can do anything with them. I think in my case that was the most
successful thing I did. A lot of the things I taught them, I learned from other
teachers.
needs to lead them a litfle." Besides cooperative learning, he encourages students to take
He responded with "I don't like to push any universities but I do tell them this, "Go to
an university that has what you need.' An example I use. Let's say you get in the car with
your friend and here you are thinking about getting some enchiladas. On the way over, you
stop at McDonald's.... This is also what I tell them. What is the one thing that they can't
take away from you? Money, car, .. .what is the one thing that they can't take away from
you? Your education. No matter where they put you, they cannot take they away from you.
I also tell them that that little piece of paper that you get opens a lot of doors. I won't tell
them in class but if they ask and they start talking about it. I tell them that you don't have to
belong to a fraternity. All you have to do is get the most education you can out of school. If
your grades are good enough, somebody will find you. You don't need anybody else's. That
is what I try to encourage. I try to encourage them to get the most they can out of this and
that they need all the education you can get. That is the one thing that they cannot take away
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The following excerpts from the interview with Teacher A relate to his perspecti\ e of
Student A.
Question: Did you encourage Jose to pursue more mathematical courses and
possibly a mathematical career?
Response: I think the extra-curricular activities helped more than the social
group. He was more of an individual. He didn't like to socialize that much.
He wanted to socialize but then he didn't want to socialize. He would only
have certain people hanging him.
Question: What extra-curricular activities was he in?
Question: Did you think that maybe extracurricular actixities and the social
group distracted Jose from his work in school at all?
Response: Nothing distracted him from his work. He would be the type of
student who would come in after school and do his work. You know after
school in my classroom. If he couldn't do something, he would ask for help
on it. He was very dedicated.
When asked what role did the parents have in Student A's success, he commented, "I
don't think his father really helped him I don't think his father helped a whole lot
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Question: Name (and rank) three factors that contributed to Jose's
performance in your course(s)? (e.g. mofivation level, aptitude for
mathematics, smdy habits, etc.)
Response: He wanted to beat other people although the\' were better people
than he was. It was still there. It wouldn't go away for some of those people.
Those people probably drove in more than I did. It was not a competition type
thing. We were all going to go to the same contest.
Response: He would do his work. He was not the lazy t\pe. He would
alwavs ha\e his work.
Response: Yes. I think so. He may not have had the best ability of all the
kids that I had but intemalh he was motivated. Not only did he ha\ e that
ability but also he overachieved.
Teacher A's additional comment relating to Smdent A s success is the following.
"The only thing that helped Smdent A is that he never became girl crazy. He ne\ er had any
girlfriends."
Student B attended a 5A high school (HS) in Dallas. TX. With the completion of
algebra I in junior high, he had the liberty to take geometrv. algebra II. pre-calculus, and
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calculus I in HS. He received A's in all his mathematical courses with the exception of
geometry, in which he received a B. His father and older brother hold a degree in
engineering and his mother and older sister have a degree in education. Student B chose to
Question: Would you describe the exams and homework assignments in high
school as challenging? Why or why not?
Question: How was it that the exam problems were challenging and the
homework wasn't?
Response: The exams had more of a conceptual focus other than just
calculating problems whereas the homework problems mainly focused on
calculation.
Response: Below average in high school. I did the work but I really didn't
strive to go beyond doing the work. I didn't try to leam anything on my own
or anything like that.
Response: I would say it is very high right now. Probably because of the
major I chose and to see how math plays an integral role in that. Also, just
being more aware that math is a part of everyday life like my teachers told me
in high school. I understood that but I didn't actually really look at how it
goes whether you're counting money or pay somebody with money, you ha\ e
to know how to count in order to know how much change you're going to get.
I understood that but I really didn't understand how the upper level of math
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goes. 1 want to get a better understanding of that included in my major I
chose and technology is really important as a foundation for my major.
Response: Internally motivated cause I have set high standards for myself and
I like to succeed at anything I do, and I don't like to do anything that I'm not
But I'm willing to do stuff I may not succeed at but if I do decide to do it,
I'm going to try to succeed. Maybe, I can succeed at something I thought I
couldn't do. I don't really know. I think it's just the type of personality that I
have.
Question: In your college courses last year, do you feel like you gained any
conceptual knowledge of calculus or its applications?
Response: Yes very much so. I find it very easy to memorize formulas. I can
look at a problem, and I may not understand the conceptual applications but I
can solve it because in my leaming process, it is something very easy for me.
So in high school that's what I did with calculus but it is something that is
harder for me to do. I feel like with the classes in college I'm getting a better
background.
Question: You said you were below average in high school, do you feel like in
high school, there is a tendency to experience external pressure or internal?
Response: It was part of it. I knew high in school that the teachers, if you are
not motivated yourself then they will push you to do it. I think also a part of it
was in high school if you didn't push yourself to do the work, generally there
is going to be a way you can get out of it. If you don't perform as well as you
like then there is going to be a way you can make it up. You can make better
grades, or you can make up your grades. In high school, the big emphasis was
grades. Where college, the professors care to a certain extent beyond that, it is
your responsibility, and you push yourself in the class cause they are not
going to push you. You have to push yourself in college whereas in high
school.
Question: Did you leam to push yourself by being pushed by your teachers in
high school?
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Response: Yes and no. I did leam a lot from my teachers in high school but 1
also knew in high school, I wasn't going to ha\e to push myself I think all
along I knew I could motivate myself and have the motivation within me but I
also knew in high school, I didn't have to use it.
Question: So in other words, high school could have been a little bit more
challenging?
Response: That's a nice question! I think that can be a part of it. I think it
can. Even with what I am interested in now, there is many different options I
can take if engineering doesn't work, or I decide I don't want to be an
engineer, there is many different things I can with that degree.
Response: I like to know what the average was to see where I stand against
that but I think that is more for just my knowledge. My friends, I like to know
how they did on the exam and then talk about why didn't you do this problem
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right or what was missing, can you help out, and w hy 1 didn't do this one. I
do like to know that but it's more for my knowledge. I do definitely compete
within myself on each exam that I take.
In regards to Student B's leaming style, the following quotes are presented.
Question: When you were in high school did you need any help on the
material and how did you get help?
Response: After school hours, my math and all other teachers stayed at least
30 minutes after school so you could talk them more or you could set up a
time where you could stay longer after school to get extra help.
Response: More often in the later years, my junior and senior years.
Sometimes it was to get a little extra help, sometimes it w as just to do the
homework while the teacher was around. We had several students who w ould
do the same.
Question: When you do work in groups with other people, who did you feel
more comfortable with? (i.e. others of your ability le\ el. others from your
social background, others from high schools similar to your own, etc.)
Response: I feel more comfortable with people with the same ability le\ el.
The people with the same ability level, somebody will have a different idea
than I did. They're going to see a different way to soh e a problem than I did.
But they are not very out of my league such that they are understanding
everything, and I'm trying to play catch up. Somebody on the lower level, I
find it hard to study with because they may not be understanding the concepts
and rather than studying, I'd be going back and helping them understand how
to do something. Which in a way is studying but I don't mind helping people
because I generally leam something when I'm trying to help someone
understand the same thing. But if it's actually studying for a test or quiz then
I feel like I'm missing out in the time where I need to focus on what I need to
work on so generally, somebody at the same ability level.
Question: Describe your experiences in your college calculus course, (i.e.
did you like the professor, the textbook, the structure of the class, etc.)
Response: Calculus 1,1 like my professor, and I like the idea of projects but I
felt the projects we were doing were a lot of busy work with not as much
return on the actually leaming the concepts. I didn't really follow the way she
taught as well. She didn't have a problem teaching; I just wasn't following
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the way she taught. I like the way the class was set up in that we had quizzes
and we had projects where you could work with other people in understanding
the material and there wasn't a big focus on doing the homework. I
understand the point of doing homework but I don't like to feel that I have to
have it done every single time completely completed because sometimes life
gets busy, and 1 don't get it done.
Question: When you did study for calculus classes, how did you study? Did
you use the book?
Response: I like to review the sections in the book that were covered, look at
the homework especially if it had been graded to see what part of the sections
I was missing the most problems on. If it wasn't graded then I would just
review some of the problems that I had done to see if I remembered and to see
if I could still do them. Right before the test, I would review the notes taken
in class.
Student B studied majority of the time alone with an occasional group study session.
In college, he studied approximately 3-4 hours a week outside of class alone. For the entire
semester, Student B spent close to 25% of the time studying with other people.
The following exchanges expands on the initial references to his high school teacher:
Question: How did your teacher foster these relationships you talked about
her getting to personally know the students; what did she do exactly?
Response: She's the type of teacher in class who doesn't keep necessarily
strict rules. She keeps the class lively and encourages us to talk about the
topics we're leaming. She's just a real fun teacher. She has a reputation for
being fun. I remember when I had her for algebra II as a sophomore, I w ould
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see upperclassmen, and people who had graduated came back to see her just
because she really is a very caring teacher. So we got that before we met her
and then when we talked to her, she was a lot of fun and very helpful even
outside of mathemadcs.
Response: She's very open and would joke around with you. If you weren't
an open person, she'd tried to get you to open up and enjoy the class and not
just the mathematics that she was teaching but also just to enjoy life as it was.
Question: Did the teachers encourage you to get together outside of class or
were they hands off?
Response: My teacher was laid back about it. She realized it was helping us
out so she made her classroom available after school. She suggested that we
do it if we were having problems but she wasn't real pushy about it.
Question: Did you feel that your high school preparation in mathematics was
adequate for college?
Response: Yes, because the teachers were aware what we needed as far as
what kind of mathematics or how to prepare us for the math classes in college.
They not only taught us to the concepts that we needed for our high school
classes but they also taught us how to leam it on our own, and taught us to
understand what we were leaming and how it would be in college. They still
did high school grading but talked about that in college you wouldn't have all
these homework grades so focus more on the tests.
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Question: Is your mofivafion level in college influenced by your instructors?
Why or why not?
Response: Yes it is. Some classes seem boring at times. I may revert back
and highlight some classes in high school and realize I can leam just as much
and I'll be just fine cause I'm understanding the stuff Most instmctors that
I've had, I don't think I haven't had an instmctor who doesn't try to show you
how much further you can go with the material.
Once I see that that then I can go farther than I am letting myself It's just kind of
natural for me to ingrain that. If I can go further, why not go further because I am paying for
the class. If an instructor is willing to show me how muchfiartherI can go then I should take
Response: Yes and no, my mother has physical education degree for teaching
elementary physical education. My father has an electrical engineering
degree. They both were working within their degree right out of college but
are now with a Christian organization. That is something, I am also looking at.
Even though I am in the engineer degree, I'm not sure I will stick with it once
I graduate.
Question: What are your parent's wishes for your future career? [may want to
pursue this with why?] How do they compare with your own career goals?
Response: Their main wish is I choose something I'm happy and that I enjoy
doing for life. My dad knows about engineering so they don't wish for me to
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do engineering vs. something else. They just want me to choose something 1
enjoy doing.
Question: What role, if any, did your family play in supporting your decision
to come to college?
Question: What family and peer relationships empower you in your academic
pursuits? How?
The following interchange expands on the initial reference to his high school and
college peers:
Response: Yes
Response: It was my senior year and was more fun to study with others. Less
work on my part. Generally, most of us had the same types of questions so
when we studied together, we could narrow it down to a few main questions
of a concept we stmggled with then the teacher had to answer those questions
we had.
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Question: Describe your social group in high school, (i.e. what interests did
you have in common?, are they now attending college?, how many of your
close friends were in your mathematics courses?, etc.)
Question: How did ya'U meet each other either marching band or classes?
Response: Both of those, largely due to marching band and then the
mathemafics classes as a freshman being in geometry. Most of us within that
group started algebra in middle school and then had the same math classes
from geometry through calculus.
Question: If you studied with other people, how many of them were from
your social group (i.e. friends)? Why were they the same? Or why were they
different?
Question: What family and peer relationships empower you in your academic
pursuits? How?
Response: My relationship with my entire family empowers me in my
academic pursuits. My entire family is very supportive whether what I choose
to do. I'm the youngest in the family. I have my oldest brother and sister to
look up to and see what they have chosen and be able to talk to them about
why did you choose this, what if you didn't choose this. That helps me in my
decision to be able to choose my own path that I want to follow.
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Question: Describe your (current) social group at college? (i.e. w hat are their
majors?, do you study together?, etc.)
Question: So you described that you study with people in your social group,
so you tend to study with your friends in the engineer field?
Response: Yes
Question: What kinds of information do you share (among you and your
friends) about navigating the university (i.e. registration, financial aid, what
professors to sign up for, what courses to take, emotional support, etc.)?
Response: We share pretty much all of that You can always find out
who's teaching what class, what section, who students recommend, who they
don't recommend, what kind of test this professor gi\es so I think all that kind
of information is shared very openly. In fact, I find out who's taken this class
before me; who they suggested I take, who teaches it and in which way.
activities:
Question: How would you say those exams and homework assignments in
college differ from those in high school?
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Response: I had a couple of jobs. They went into my school once classes
started but I really didn't have a job that I kept the entire school year because I
was in the marching band and was really hard to work during practice so
generally I wouldn't have a job during the fall semester of the year. I didn't
have a job until the end of the spring semester.
Question: So you worked at the end of the spring and in the summer?
Response: Yes
Question: What kinds of responsibilities (housework, child care, job, etc.) did
you have in high school? Do you think that these responsibilities enhanced or
detracted from your educational experiences?
Response: I think it enhanced it. When I had a job, I had to manage my time
better because I ha set a schedule; I couldn't just goof off and play all the
time because I had the responsibility of being somewhere at a certain time. It
really helped me understand that with taking classes I had to work at it but I
could still have fun. I had to make sure to manage my time to do the work
and have fun. Holding a job helped me that way.
Question: How much do you think that helped you in your classes, having
described as though you've had a pretty good background? So how would
you say that helped you?
Response: I thought it helped quite a bit especially that I had calculus in high
school but I retook it my freshman year in college so just the fact that the
background that I had in math was already a strong background. It was easier
for me to get into, as a freshman, college classes and not to worry as much
that I'd be struggling as much in the area of math. I knew that 1 already had a
good understanding of it. That just kind of helped me just kind of take it and
leam to sit in as a freshman and leam what was required of me in college.
Father B received a BS in electrical engineering (EE) in college then retumed for his
presently, as a missionary, he has had the experience of changing his career along the w ay
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crediting his degree for the easy transifion between each profession. His parents had only a
high school educafion, but they had strong views towards education. Missing their
opportunity to attend college, they prepped and planned for both of their children to attend.
With the influence of his high school math teacher, he chose the engineering route in college.
As parents, he and his wife, educated as well, shared the responsibility of tutoring
their children by dividing up the schoolwork. She handled the biology, the reading, and the
history, and he took the math and the sciences excluding biology.
His "mother worked in the local school district as a secretary (so he) was around
ideas of education all (his) life." He "believes in making (mathemafics) fun and interesting
and trying to apply it to real world problems." He prefers a mathemafics teaching instmction
"based on rules (and not) think about it and try to figure what to do."
Question: Did you encourage your child to take mathemafics all four years of
high school or just the high school requirement (of three years)?
Question: Do you feel that your child's high school adequately prepares
students for college?
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Question: Did it adequateh prepare your child, particularly, in mathematics?
Response: Yes, I do. Again, I think the teachers were ver> enthusiastic. By
that. I mean not just by teaching lessons in the book, how to soh e problems,
or whate\ er but tying it to real life type stuff
Question: Are there other ways that have not been mentioned that you think
that your (son's) high school could better prepare students for college?
Even though Father B encouraged ad\'anced mathematical courses, he was also ••leer\
of trying to speed up the process" of Student B's education. He elaborates about this idea
w ith the following comment, "Universities put together their curriculum based on some
assumptions that might not be tme. If you take those classes some other way. I never said
no don't do that but I would have been a little leery of it because I wouldn't want him to get
to college and start the 2"^^ semester of math and science courses."
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Question: Do you have definite ideas about the career path your child should
follow? Why or why not? (Do you encourage them to do w hatever they
desire?)
Response: No. I think they should choose what they want to do.
strongly advises a degree in the mathemafical disciplines simply because it allows for
Question: Are your ideas about your child's career path the same as your
child's goals? I'm not saying you would direct his career path but have you
ever thought about him taking a certain career or mentioned it to him?
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Question: Would you describe your child's motivation level in studying
(mathemafics) in high school as "high," "moderate," or "below average"?
Why?
Question: Why do you think this is? Do you think he inherited it from one of
you or...?
Question: Have you ever pressured your child to perform well academically?
(i.e. punishment for poor performance, reward for good performance, etc.)
Response: No, but, of course, he probably feels different. We are not trying to
live out our lives through our children but don't settle less for what we know
they are capable of giving.
Response: No, we didn't punish either but it depends on what you mean by
reward. If you mean extemal reward then no. We feel like praise and
cheering them on and going out having a meal and celebrating good grades;
well, I guess, those are rewards too, but we did that each semester. It was not
tied to monetary or a car or anything like that.
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Question: Besides helping and tutoring Student B to excel in math, how else
did you assist him to excel in math? Did you provide other tutors or did he
get help from teachers after school?
Response: I'm not sure about talking to teachers. We didn't find other tutors.
We done things like, again, because part of it is just my interest too, done
things like tour Cape Canaveral, toured the Soviet Space Exhibit w hen it was
in Fort Worth during his high school years. Kind of tied it to the real world of
how people accomplish what they've done.
semester of Health and P.E." She realized that she abhorred teaching these two subjects and
preferred to teach mathematics. An interesting situation when considering that she had not
always liked mathematics until her experience with trigonometry. For some unknown
rationale, the course just clicked for her. Thus, trigonometry convinced her to minor in
mathematics since a major in mathematics seemed unattainable due to its demanding mental
challenge. She thought that she was real good at mathematics unfil a couple of upper le\el
mathemafics courses knocked the chip off her shoulder. Nevertheless, she simply loved the
course, which led her to love mathematics so much that she wanted to share that feeling of
goodness.
The following excerpts from Teacher B's interview reflect her attitude towards
Response: I can only do so much as a teacher and that is what I tell the kids.
I have you only for 45 minutes a day for 180 days out of the year, and that is
not very much. If you look at your lifefime. the whole span of your lifefime.
45 minutes a day is nothing. That is why I want to have a good time with
those kids. I like to cut with those kids. They are fun if you can get them
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rolling on a topic but they can tell 1 enjoy. They tend to pay attention a little
more and stuff I had a good time with the kids. They could tell if I was
disappointed in them, or if I was very proud of them or if 1 was mad at them.
When they could tell what my mood was, they knew w hether or not they w ere
screw ing up. I taught the material.. .1 gave them what I think they needed to
know out of algebra II and calculus at least to my abilities when it came to
calculus. It just goes above and beyond when you really care about the kids.
As far as the math part of Jonathan's success. I did what I was supposed to do
as a teacher to the best of my ability.
Question: Did you ever inform them or did they ever ask you how you
became involved in math or why you became a math teacher?
Response: They asked me that several times. I told them that I started out in
pre-vet, and I hated chemistry so I got out of pre-vet and went into Health and
P.E. because I also liked athletics. When I got involved with athletic training.
I did my student teaching. I didn't want to minor in driver's education, which
was the big deal in those days when I was in college. Driver's ed. was the big
minor. There was no way I was going to do that. There wasn't really
anything else I liked as much as math so I minored in math. It turns out that I
did my student teaching in Health and P.E., and I hated it. When 1 got my
first teaching job, he asked me if I wanted to teach P.E. I said, "Not on your
life! Math." I tell the kids that trigonometry is what made me love math. I
didn't always like math. It was because for some reason, trig, just clicked. 1
had a really good time with it and that is part of the reason why I decided to
minor in math. 1 liked it so much that I wanted to share that.
Question: Do you inform these students of your ability in math? Do you have
to know how intelligent they are compared to you or how much more gifted
and talented they maybe you?
Question: Do you feel that your mathematics courses prepare students w ell for
college calculus? Why or why not?
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Response: That's very subjective. I hated calculus in college. I hated it. I
minored in math, and I had to take two semesters of calculus, and 1 hated
calculus because I just didn't get the calculus because I just didn't get the
instmctor. When I finished them, I said never again. About 5 or 6 years, my
principal asked me if I would teach calculus. I haven't seen calculus in
sixteen years. I swear I would never touch it again and now you w ant me to
teach it.
Response: I make the kids work together on those because some kid maybe a
lot better on one topic in calculus than another. That goes for Algebra II also.
As far as the compefifion, I don't have to promote competition with those kids
because those gifted and talented kids compete against themselves, and I don't
ever have to say a word.
Question: Do you feel that your mathematics courses prepare students well for
college calculus? Why or why not?
Response: .. ..The very first year I taught calculus, I don't feel like they were
prepared. However, they came back to me, those kids who went into
engineering, they came back and said, "As basic as a background you gave
us, it got us at least through the first semester." I guess what we offered them
in calculus and what I gave them in calculus.. .1 got better at it as I taught it...
Question: Do you think your tests and homework prepare them for the tests
and homework in college mathematics?
Response: My tests are very much geared towards what I taught I test
over what I taught then I throw some stuff that they might haven't seen before
but they have the background to get it from what I taught.
and, possibly, a mathematical career, she responded, ".. ..I expected them to go to Pre-Cal,
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Question: For those who didn't want to take more math, did you try to put
fear in them about what college was like and staying out a year or two years
without math...?
Response: Very much so. I did very much so. If I had a chance to talk to the
parents, I did with them to. I tell the kids all the time that I don't even like
them to skip calculus, if they take Pre-Cal their junior and their planning on
doing something or if their planning on going to a 4-year college then I try
and talk them into at least go through calculus even you don't take the AP test
at the end, at least keep some math under your beh because college algebra is
going to kick your butt. I really, very much did not like it much if they
stopped at Algebra II but those kids, I'm thinking of one in particular, aren't
going to go into a math-related field, and they already know that. I still don't
like the fact that they skip two years of math because, half the time, they ha\ e
to go a lower math course then they even belong in.
Teacher B expresses her opinion about success in educafion in the following quote, "1
tmly think that you have to come from a strong family background to be as successful as
Question: What qualities do you feel that students must possess in order to
pursue a career in math or any mathematical-based discipline?
Response: They got to have the smarts. If you don't get math then you just
don't get math. That is going to be hard going into engineering if you are not
good at math in the first place. Just the basic ability to do math in the first
place is one quality; I think that is a lot of intelligence. Self-motivation for
sure because those engineering courses are not easy, and those kids have to
stay motivated. They have to stay motivated through themselves because
mommy and daddy aren't there anymore. They have to have the support from
somewhere because if they do screw up that support can come from a college
professor, or it can come from mom and dad back home, or it can come from
an email from a friend or anything. They have to have support in those tough
courses.
Response: Some of those kids are more intelligent than me so that doesn't
count. I have had a couple of kids that have tested me, and I promise
you... .there is no way I can make a 5 on calculus AP test. I have some kids
that are more intelligent than me so I do what I can. If they ask me a question
that I can't answer, I will try and find out from somebody else, another
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teacher, or someone else. As far as the support and stuff, I hope the kids knew
when I was proud of them. Teaching gifted and talented kids, you w ill have a
lot of kids that will go nafional merit in that sort of academic competition. 1
hope that I model.. ..I hope they can tell through me that there is somebody
there that is proud of them. If it is me that they need when they go through
college they know where to find me.
Question: If a student lacks these qualities, what ad\ise do you gi\e them?
Response: I'm not one to discourage a kid from something they think they
can do. If they lack those any of those quahfies, 1 tell them to just gi\e it a try.
If you think you can do it, you go for it. They ha\ e a lot of kids in
engineering who don't have the background that some of these gifted and
talented kids have. That just means they will have to work a lot harder.
Those kids are probably better off than these very intelligent kids in the first
place. They have to work for that. I think that in itself makes for a better
professional sometimes.
Question: That is all the questions that I have, however, is there anything that
you would like to add?
Response: I do to tell the kids, and I harp on this, "If you screw up the first
semester in college, it will take you the next three years to pick up your
GPA." I tell them that all the time, and that doesn't matter which class we are
talking about. If you screw up your first semester, you are going to spend the
rest of your semesters trying to pick up your GPA. You still ha\e to ha\ e a
good time because that is part of what college is all about but keep your
priorifies straight too. If you are having too much of a good time and your
academics is slipping, you are messing yourself up for the rest of your college
career. At 16, 17, and 18,1 am stupid. They will not listen to me when it
comes to college. Those kids have to leam for themseh es. I harp on the first
semester thing the most because that's when they get lost. They go away
from home, they don't have mommy and daddy there to kick them in the butt,
and give them a curfew, and ask them if they did their homework, they are on
their own, and that is why I harp on the first semester stuff As far as anything
else, if I think of something, I will tell them but these kids have to leam for
themselves. They will not listen to anything we have to say when it comes to
college. They have to find out for themselves, and that is not always a bad
thing.
Question: If you explain to them how rough and tough some of those
professors will be?
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Response: I do because they gripe at me about the homework I gi\ e them.
They have so many things that they have to do that they just don't ha\e time
to do it. I tell them, "Hey you think it is tough now w ait till you get to
college. Those professors are not going to care what your schedule is so you
better get a grip on things now. At least the teachers you ha\ e now care about
what your schedules are. You are right here, and you are a much smaller
group than most of the colleges you are going to pick. College professors see
thousands of kids everyday, and they are not going to be able to pick you out,
and point you out, and help you out, and hold your hand in every class. Grow
up!"
Response: Algebra II, he was always very much grade conscious. I never had
to worry about him not doing what I ask him to do. He was a pretty good kid.
He was usually on time with his homework and everything; and every once in
a while, he would slip up but he was so involved in so many things that but he
would come around in the end though.
However, Teacher B responds with Student B's performance his senior as somewhat
different in the quote, "He wasn't quite as worried about his grades as a senior..."
Question: At the times he was slipping up in your class, did you encourage
him to work harder or provide any type of verbal encouragement?
Response: .. ..I always gave them a break and he knew that but I also told him
when they were taking calculus if you slip up in calculus, it is going to be that
much harder to catch up so you need to try and stay on top of things....
Question: To the best of you knowledge, what role (if any) did the following
have in contribufing to Jonathan's success in mathematics such as parents.
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extra-curricular activifies, social group as far as friends &: peers, and things
like that?
Response: I think that all of that had a factor. I think that Jonathan had a lot
of good teachers and whether or not the\ were renaissance teachers, whether
or not they w ere gifted and talented teachers, or regular teachers, he had a lot
of good teachers. And I think that had a lot to do with it but Jonathan was a
leader. He wasn't a loud leader, and he wasn't realh a foul leader but kids
looked up to him. I think he had a strong famih background. I think he had
strong spirimal background. 1 think church w as important to him and extra-
curricular activities as far as band w ere \ er\ important to him. I think all of
that combined made him \ ery successful. He was just a great kid all around.
Teacher B's answer to what distractions did Student B experience w as "Girls w ere a
distraction. Band was a distraction.... He was so involved in so many things. I can sa\ at
any given time, any one of those things was a distraction including his other academic classes
In conclusion. Teacher B's lack of confidence and knowledge of mathematics and her
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CHAPTER V
CONCLUSIONS
endurance exceeds the average student and helps him overcome any lack of innate
mathematical ability that might otherwise adversely affect his academic performance.
he competes both externally and internally, he perceives his intemal motivation to the
dominant.
competition, HS mathematics teacher, and his family's "culture idea." In high school,
the competition stemmed from UIL participation, grades, and a particular college-
tailored teaching style. UIL was more challenging than his high school mathematics
courses because it demanded more attention, time, and effort; thus, allowing for more
constant grade competition with other students, especially, with his closest friends.
He enjoyed the college-like teaching style that his math teacher used in high school
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because he viewed it as a compefifion between himself, the material, and the teaching
method.
In college, his grades and major provided his primary motivation. Again, he
viewed his mathemafics courses as a competition, not just between himself and his
fellow students, but also between himself and the subject. His major forced him to
focus not on just leaming the concepts but understanding them well enough for
application use.
Among all the individuals in his life, his HS mathematics teacher was the
most influential. He highly respected the man for his knowledge, teaching skills, and
support for the "culture idea." Although he did not inquire more about his high
school teacher outside of the classroom. Student A wanted to emulate his knowledge.
His family supports all of his educational aspirations because of their "culture
idea." They expect him and each child to surpass them educafionally, and that
small amount of fime each week. Occasionally he would study with a select group of
intellectual peers or tutor mathematically weaker friends but most of the time he
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his immediate group of friends. He keeps the group small so as to avoid social
distractions.
personality type, both socially and academically, with strong personal motivation to
succeed.
his academic abilities allowed him to succeed in high school with minimal effort.
school was definitely extemal, coming from parents, teachers, and peers. His
competitive nature does not appear to have caused him any stress. Student B was
reared in a Christian home, his faith and family are the most important factors in his
with respect to allowing make-up work, she kept Student B on pace with his
mathematics. His parents were well educated and qualified to tutor him in the
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In college, realizing the lack of support that his professors pro\ ide, he has had
to discover other means of mofivafion. His major and grades act as motivational
instmments. He competes mainly with himself but to some extent w ith other
His father and brother have been role models for Student B. He has
witnessed both choosing a career beyond the expected intentions of their college
degree, and has considered the possibility of utilizing his degree in various
occupafions as well. On the other hand, his HS mathemafics teacher initially inspired
was involved in many extracurricular acfivities for reasons of the social climate and
the challenging tasks. He interacted mainly with math classmates and band members.
In college, his social group consists of wide range of friends from a variety of majors.
Among all his extracurricular acfivities both in high school and college, the marching
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5.2 Conclusion
Both students shared many common success factors. Both had high school
teachers that were compafible ethnically, and according to Mayo, et al [1995], this
before entering college and were strongly influenced by their HS teacher. This is
consistent with Hinton's [1988] flnding. Although Terenzini and Pascarella [1997]
neither student encountered much informal contact with the faculty. As a matter of
fact. Student A is convinced that the faculty is impersonal and apathetic towards the
academic success. Such support from his fellow students seemed to be more of a
contributing factor in Student B's success than in the case of Student A. Both high
school instmctors used cooperative leaming in a very limited way and it was not
very different ways. Student A exhibits an introverted personality, with his strong
very well guarded with respect to his social life for fear his social life might interfere
with his academic life. This is an interesting observation in the light of the finding of
Mayo et al [1995] that social life, especially among Hispanic students, can impede
academic success.
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Student B on the other hand exhibits an extroverted personality, with his
mathemafical prowess overcoming his lack of a strong work ethic. His social life was
a significant part of his high school experience and by his own admission sometimes
is clear that both were greatly influenced by their parents and by their high school
mathematics instmctors. In the case of Student A, the high school instmctor seemed
to provide somewhat more influence than did the parents, whereas with Student B the
parental influence seemed to be the dominant factor. Both sets of parents were highly
educated, with at least one holding a Masters degree. This is consistent with
Anderson's [1990] finding that the level of parental education is directly related to
student performance.
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APPENDIX A
STUDENTS' INTERVIEW
QUESTIONS
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1. Describe your high school preparafion in mathematics (e.g. what courses did you take,
did you do well in those courses, etc.) [Have them list their mathemafics courses. If any
seem to have been developmental in nature, invesfigate why they took the courses.]
a. If you needed any help on the material, how did you get it? (i.e. tutorials, group
leaming, or parental assistance)
b. Did you study with others in high school? If yes, for what courses, how, and why? If
no, why not?
2. Do you feel your high school preparation in mathematics was adequate? If yes, why? If
not, why not?
a. Did you have any ideas about what mathematics in college would be like? Who
inspired those ideas?
b. Would you describe the exams and homework assignments in high school as
challenging? Why or why not?
c. How do the exams and homework assignments in college differ from those you
received in high school?
3. Would you describe your motivation level in studying mathemafics in high school as
"high", "moderate", or "below average"? Why?
a. Was your motivation level in high school influenced by your teachers? Why or why
not?
b. Did you feel pressure—in high school—(from society, former teachers, parents or
siblings) to do well in mathematics? Why or why not? How did this "pressure" affect
your motivation level if at all?
4. Describe your social group in high school, (i.e. what interests did you have in common?,
are they now attending college?, how many of your close friends were in your
mathematics courses?, etc.)
a. If you studied with other people, how many of them were from your social group (i.e.
friends)? Why were they the same? Or Why were they different?
b. How important were your friends' opinions when it came to choosing a university to
attend? [Why were they important? Why weren't they important?]
5.
a. Are your parents' occupations related at all to your career choice/future occupafion
goals? If yes, why? If no, why not?
b. What are your parents wishes for your future career? [may want to pursue this with
why?] How do they compare with your own career goals?
6. What role, if any, did your family play in supporting your decision to come to college?
a. What family and peer relationships empower you in your academic pursuits? How?
b. What family and peer relationships endanger or detract from your academic pursuits?
How? Why?
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c. What kinds of responsibilifies (housework, child care, job, etc.) did you ha\ e in high
school? Do you think that these responsibilities enhanced or detracted from your
educational experiences?
7. Role models: If you had to name a particular teacher/person who influenced you to
pursue mathematics at the college level, who would it be? Why? [e.g. Were they
interested in mathematics and tell you about their own story of how they became
interested in mathemafics]
8. Before coming to college (and now) how do/did you find out about financial aid, careers
involving mathematics, the university system, etc. ?
9. Would you describe your motivafion level in studying mathemafics in college as "high",
"moderate", or "below average"? Why?
a. Would you describe yourself as intemally mofivated (motivated from within) or
externally motivated (mofivated from without)? Why or why not?
b. Is your motivation level in college influenced by your instmctors? Why or w hy not?
c. At present, do you feel pressure (from society, former teachers, parents or siblings) to
do well in mathematics? Why or why not? How does this "pressure" affect your
motivation level if at all?
10. Describe your (current) social group at college? (i.e. what are their majors?, do you study
together?, etc.)
a. If you study with other people, how many of them are from your social group (i.e.
friends)? Why are they the same? Or, why are they different?
b. What kinds of information do you share (among you and your friends) about
navigating the university (i.e. registration, financial aid, what professors to sign up
for, what courses to take, emotional support, etc.)?
11.
a. How many hours a week did you spend studying calculus?
b. How many of these hours were spent studying with other people?
c. How did you study when you studied? (read the book, do problems, etc.) What was
your studying method? (working relatively easy problems progressing to harder
problems, discussing the difficult problems with peers, etc.)
d. When working in a group, who do you feel most comfortable with? (i.e. others of
your ability level, others from your social background, others from high schools
similar to your own, etc.)
12. Describe your experiences in your college calculus course, (i.e. did you like the
professor, the textbook, the stmcture of the class, etc.)
a. Did you feel like you were able to draw on any of your previous mathematical
background? [Did your high school prepare you for college-level mathematics?]
b. Did you feel like that you understood some, if any, of the concepts or applications of
the course?
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APPENDIX B
PARENTS' INTERVIEW
QUESTIONS
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1. What factors contributed to your child's success in high school mathematics courses?
(i.e. social group, amount of fime studying, parental involvement, etc.)
a. Are there factors that had a negafive affect on your child? (i.e. too much time
consumed in extracurricular acfivifies, other responsibilifies invading studying time)
b. Did you encourage your child to take mathemafics all four years of high school or just
the high school requirement (of three years)? Did you encourage your child to take
any advance level mathemafics in high school?
2. Would you describe your child's mofivafion level in studying (mathematics) as "high",
"moderate", or "below average"? Why?
a. Is your child motivated from within or from without? Why? (Have you ever pressured
your child to perform well academically? (i.e. punishment for poor performance,
reward for good performance, etc.)
b. How did you help your child excel in mathemafics? Did you provide your child w ith
extra assistance? (provide tutors, talk with teachers, etc.)
3. Do you feel that your child's high school adequately prepares students for college? Did it
adequately prepare your child, in particular in mathematics? Why or why not?
a. How many and what type of mathematics courses did your child take?
b. Are there other ways that have not been mentioned that you think that your high
school could better prepare students for college?
4. In what ways do you promote pursuing a higher educafion among your child(ren)?
a. Do you have definite ideas about the career path your child should follow? Why or
why not? (Do you encourage them to do whatever they desire?)
b. Are your ideas about your child's career path the same as your child's goals?
c. Would you encourage a degree/career in the mathematical disciplines? Why or why
not?
6. Did you like mathemafics when you studied it in high school (or college or both)?
a. If not, what factors affected you in your interest in mathematics?
b. If so, what was it that you liked about mathemafics?
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APPENDIX C
TEACHERS' INTERVIEW
QUESTIONS
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1. Describe Student X's performance in your mathemafics course(s)?
a. If pooriy, did you encourage Student X to work harder or provide verbal
encouragement?
b. If good, did you encourage Student X to pursue more mathemafical courses and
possibly a mathematical career?
2. Do you feel your mathemafics courses prepare students well for college calculus? Why
or why not?
a. Do you encourage academic compefifion in your class among your students or
academic cooperation?
b. Do your tests and homework prepare them for the tests and homework in college
mathematics?
3. To the best of your knowledge, what role (if any) did the following have in contribufing
to Student X's success in mathemafics: parents?; extra-curricular activities?; social group
(friends/peers)?; apfitude for mathematics?
a. Did any of these roles contribute to the student's lack of success?
b. What was your role in contribufion to Student X's performance in mathematics? (a
success or failure?)
4. Name (and rank) three factors that contributed to Student X's performance in your
course(s)? (e.g. motivafion level, aptitude for mathematics, study habits, etc.)
a. Name the factors that contribute to Student X's success?
b. Name the factors that contribute to Student X's lack of success?
5. What qualities do you feel that students must possess in order to pursue a career in a
mathematics-based discipline? How do you encourage/model these qualities?
a. If a student lacks theses qualities, what advise do you give the student?
b. Do you inform the students of the way you became interested in mathematics and
what qualities you possess?
6. What suggestions do you usually give your students on how to study for mathematics
courses?
a. Do you advise them to organize into groups of race, sex, or level of understanding?
b. Do you involve the students in group leaming or individual leaming or a
combination?
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