Hadith Thaqlayn Seperating the truth and falsehood.

Points: 1. Hadith in sunni book which mention the word Itrah (progeny). 2. Hadith mentioning the word Sunnah and its inauthenticity. 3. Hadith mentioning the word Ahlebayt and there authenticity. ___________________________________________________________________

1. Hadith in sunni book which mention the word Itrah (progeny). I will give references of both, very popular books (provided you know your own popular books and scholars) and not so popular books, to show how widely the word Itrah (progeny) has been used in this Hadith. Hadith: The Messenger of Allah(saw) said: "Verily, I am leaving behind two precious things among you: the Book of Allah and my progeny (`itrah), my household (Ahl al-Bayt), for indeed, the two will never separate until they come back to me by the Pond (of al-Kawthar on the Judgement's Day)." References: a. al-Tirmidhi (one of sahah sitta, 6 authentic books), v5, pp 662-663,328, report of 30+ companions, with reference to several chains of transmitters. b. Jame Al Sagheer V2 pg544 Hadeeth #2631, by Jalaluddin Suyuti (one of the most popular scholars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Suyuti ) and he mentions that the Hadith is Saheeh. In its commentary by Hamdi Daamerdash, he says its sahih according to Al Tabarani and Shaikh Albaani. c. Sharh Mushkil Al Athaar, V5 pg18 by the famous scholar Imam Al Tahawi , (for info on Imam Tahawi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Muhammad_al-Tahawi ) He further comments that this Hadith is Sahih which doesnt have any dispute from any narrators. d. Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, V16 pg28 hadith #21470, by Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (one of the four Imams of ahlu sunnah and one of the greatest scholars), explained and cataloged by Hamza al zain, Dar al hadeeth, cairo. In the commentary it says that the source of hadith is Hasana (good). e. al-Fada'il Sahaba (Virtues of the companions v2, p585, Hadith #990, by Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (one of the four Imams of ahlu sunnah and one of the greatest scholars) f. al-Khasa'is, by al-Nisa'I (writer of Sunan Sughra, one of the sahah sitta, 6 authentic books), pp 21,30

g. al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Hajar_Al-Haythami ), Ch. 11, section 1, p230 h. al-Kabir, by al-Tabarani, v3, pp 62-63,137 i. Kanz al-Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Chapter al-Iti'sam bi Habl Allah, v1, p44. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzul_Ummal )

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2. Hadith mentioning the word Sunnah and its inauthenticity. Proof1:

The hadith which has the word sunnat in it, has the following chain of narrators, Abbas ibn Abi-Uways, AbiUways, Thawr ibn Zayd al-Daylami, `Ikrimah, Ibn `Abbas. (Al-Hakim's al-Mustadrak `ala al-Sahihayn, vol. 1, p.93.) Abu-Uways and Isma`il ibn Abi-Uways, the father and son respectively, not only are they unreliable but also accused of fabricating hadiths. Comments of the experts of `ilm al-rijal concerning these two narrators a) Hafiz Mazzi, a researcher of `ilm al-rijal has the following points to say in his book, Tahdhib al-Kamal, concerning Isma`il and his father: Yahya ibn Mu`in, a great scholar of `ilm al-rijal, says, Abu-Uways and his son are weak, He is also quoted to have said, These two are used to plagiarizing hadiths. Ibn Mu`in has further said about Abu-Uways son: He can not be trusted. b) Nasais comment on Abu-Uways son: He is weak and inauthentic. c) Abul-Qasim Lalka'i: Nasai has said a great deal about him (Isma`il), such as: The hadiths he quotes are to be rejected. d) Ibn Adi, a scholar of `ilm al-rijal: Ibn Abi-Uways has narrated strange hadiths from his uncle, which no one accepts. (Al-Hafiz al-Mazzi's Tahdhib al-Kamal, vol. 3, p.127.) e) In the prologue to Fath al-Bari, Ibn Hajar has said, The narrations Ibn Abi-Uways has cited can never be taken as a basis for argument due to the charges Nasai made against him. (Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalani's Fath al-Bari Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari, p. 391, Dar al-Ma`arif Print.)

f) In his book, Fath al-Mulk al-`Ali, Hafiz Sayyid Ahmad ibn Siddiq quotes Salamah ibn Shayb as having said, I have heard Isma`il ibn Abi-Uways saying, Whenever the citizens of Medina divide on an issue, I fabricate a tradition. (Al-Hafiz Sayyid Ahmad's Fath al-Mulk al-`Ali, p. 15.)

Proof2:
Seocnd chain of narrators which has been mentioned is Al-Dabbi, Salih ibn Musa al-Talhi, `Abd al-`Aziz Ibn Rafi` AbiSalih, Abu-Hurayrah. (Al-Hakim's al-Mustadrak `ala al-Sahihayn, vol. 1, p. 93.) Salih ibn Musa al Talhi, is a fabricator.

Comments made by the expert of ilm ar-rijal a) Yahya ibn Mu`in: Salih ibn Musa is undependable. b) Abu-Hatam Razi: The narrations he quotes are weak and repudiated. In many of his hadiths he ascribes munkar to the trusted ones.

c) Nasai: The hadiths he cites are not to be recorded. Also, His hadiths are abandoned. (Al-Hafiz al-Mazzi's Tahdhib al-Kamal, vol. 13, p. 96.)

d) In his Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, Ibn Hajar writes: Ibn Habban says: Salih ibn Musa ascribes to the trusted people words that are not the like of theirs. Also, The traditions he narrates are not to be taken as evidence. (Ibn Hajar's Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, vol. 4, p.355.) e) Abu-Na`im: His narrations are abandoned; he constantly cites munkar hadiths.

f) Ibn Hajar in Taqrib: His narrations are abandoned. (Ibn Hajar's Taqrib, (the translation, No. 2891).)

g) Dhahabi in Kashif: His narrations are weak.Dhahabi discusses the aforementioned narration in his Mizan al-I`tidal, and calls it munkar. (Al-Dhahabi's al-Kashif, (the translation, No. 2412), Al-Dhahabi's Mizan al-I`tidal, vol. 2, p.302.)

Proof3:
Another chain of this narration is `Abd al-Rahman ibn Yahya, Ahmad ibn Sa`id, Hunayn, Kathir ibn `Abdullah ibn `Amr ibn `Awf, on the authority of his father on the authority of his grandfather. (Al-Tamhid, vol. 24, p. 331.) Concerning Kathir ibn `Abdullah,

a. Imam Shafi`i says, He is one of the pillars of falsehood.( Ibn Hajar's Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, vol. 8, p.377, printed by Dar al-Fikr; also Tahdhib al-Kamal, vol. 24, p.138.) b. Abu-Dawud says: He is among the liars. c. Ibn Habban says: `Abdullah ibn Kathir quotes from his father and his grandfather narrations which are based on forgery. It is permanently unlawful to cite traditions from `Abdullah, unless with the aim of (showing) astonishment or criticism. (Ibn Habban's al-Majruhin, vol. 2, p. 211.) d. Nasai and Daraqutni say: His hadiths are abandoned. e. Imam Ahmad: He denounces (the correct) hadiths; he is not dependable.

In Al mawatta of Imam Malik ibn Anas (One of the 4 sunni Imams), vol 2 pg 480, hadith #2618, He narrates this hadith with the word Sunnat, and in the commentary by Dr. Bashar asad Maruf of this hadith he says that the hadith is very weak, and the reasons given above are mentioned. ___________________________________________________________________________________

3. Hadith mentioning the word Ahlebayt.

Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5920, 5923 Musnad ibn Hanbal, v4,p366 Musnad ibn Hanbal, v3,p14 Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi (by al-Albani), vol 3, page 543, #3788 And many more..