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i remember whe! muslims i! ameri"a smoked weed i! the mas&id$$$$$$$$$$$$it was!t haram2 al"ohol was haram2 but !ot
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that was a "ommo! thi!ki!g amo!gst 7uite a few people
i thought that mi!dset died out
i guess its still arou!d amo!gst some potheads
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It makes me sick when so called Muslims try to question that which has already been deemed haram by llah and !is
messen"er#
$ike it was said in another thread:
%hats wron" with dru"s& %hat's wron" with "irl(riends& %hat's wron" with slee)in" with your mother&
!ey back u) there *ust a second+ ,lee)in" with your mother&+ -ou could "et kids with "enetic disorders (rom that+
.,/ 01231M 4!/2# 5ut its )lain wron"+
,ays who& -ou& -our (riends&
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3on't let yoursel( be the *ud"e o( what is ri"ht and wron"# $et Islam be your "uide#
4he )oint I'm makin" isn't whether %/ are dis"usted by certain thin"s or not# %hether %/ deem it acce)table or not#
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the )erson abo>e me, who e>er said those thin"s about dru"s and slee)in" with your own mother is stu)id#
now why would cannabis ?mari*uana@ be haram& it enhances all senses, (ood taste better, e>erythin" is more a))ealin"
>isually, and music sounds better, and ob*ects ha>e more teAture to them# and honestly the times i am hi"h i (eel closer
to "od, i a))reciate the "i(t o( li(e and i contem)late about my )ur)ose in li(e and actually think o( ways i can be a better
)erson# im also able to analyBe and articulate much better#
here are many common reasons i hear about sayin" why mari*uana is haram and i will )ro>e them all wron"
1@it alters your state o( mind
2@ it is harm(ul to your body
C@it says so in the koran
(irst, like i said earlier it only enhances your senses and does not im)air your *ud"ement at all# second, i wont lie it does
to some dama"e to your lun"s but does not cause lun" cancer ? unless eAtreme eAtreme use like smokin" 20 blunts a
week@ because the acti>e chemical 4!0 is used to re>erse the a((ects o( cancer# lastly i *ust looked in the koran and all
the ayahs about intoAication use the word Dhamr which is alcohol#
now i( you want to use the kind o( thinkin" thatit does do some dama"e to your body so it is haram, than Mc 3onalds is
haram, soda is haram, co((ee is haram, and s)orts are haram and a bunch o( other stu(( you lo>e to do
--- so unless you think e>erythin" abo>e is haram, i do not see cannabis as haram ? "od (or"i>e me i( i am wron"@
i( you can lo"ically )ro>e to me that it is haram then i may chan"e my mind other wise e>erythin" abo>e is my >iew on
it
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2/E/7 <113 /21.<!- lets *ust say it didnt mention anythin" about slee)in" with your mother in the koran, its still
somethin" you dont do, your thinkin" shouldnt always be its in the koran thats why, I( its in the koran its in there (or a
reason# allah "a>e you a soul and concsious to deci)her ri"ht (rom wron" on your own
its )eo)le wtih minds o( yours that add so much i"norance to this world#
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2/E/7 <113 /21.<!- lets *ust say it didnt mention anythin" about slee)in" with your mother in the koran, its still
somethin" you dont do, your thinkin" shouldnt always be its in the koran thats why, I( its in the koran its in there (or a
reason# allah "a>e you a soul and concsious to deci)her ri"ht (rom wron" on your own
its )eo)le wtih minds o( yours that add so much i"norance to this world#
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It says in surah al baqarah that khamr is an "ithmun kabeerun" or big sin. Khamr is more accurately translated as
"intoxicant" and sorry to break it to you, weed intoxicates you. If not, then why is it illegal and why do so many more car
accidents occur when the driver is stoned?
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lest not make u. facts, more car accidents do not occur when .eo.le are high. Its when .eo.le are /01'K that car
accidents occur. I notice mulims always do that we take a word and mani.ulate the translation of it by saying it has
different roots. K23#0 is alcohol not intoxicant, and lets say it were intoxicant as i said earlier weed doesnt intoxicate
you. heres a great exam.le, at school i took my finals high and .assed all of them wtih 3s. if i were intoxicated i
wouldnt have been able to do that
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i forgot to mention matters of illegal and legal differ very much from illegal and legal. tobacco and alcohol are far more
harmful than mari5uana but are legal. a drug called salvia is legal and is a hallucinogen and is legal does that make it
halal?
6i do think alcohol is haram, and as for tobacco i lean towards haram but am not sure7
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1mar al)8arooq 6ra7 mentioned that all intoxicants are khamr. 9hat should be enough to refute the deviancy of the
individual I quote but shaytans like him want to legitimise their desires, so they engage in so.histry to .rove Islam
allows something which it clearly does not.
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lest not make up facts, more car accidents do not occur when people are high. Its when people are
DRUNK that car accidents occur. I notice mulims always do that we take a word and manipulate the
translation of it by saying it has different roots. KA!R is alcohol not into"icant, and lets say it were
into"icant as i said earlier weed doesnt into"icate you. heres a great e"ample, at school i took my finals
high and passed all of them wtih As. if i were into"icated i wouldnt ha#e been able to do that
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besides the Islamic .roof that cyber adbullah has .resented, there are serious flaws in the "facts" as articulate has
.resented them. 8irst of all, #ari5uana is an intoxicant. I have smoked enough of it in the .ast to be able to testify to
this. It slows the reflexes and this can be easily shown in reaction time studies. 9he only .eo.le that show an increased
score while on cannabis would be those that are chronic users and who have learned to function better while stoned
then when they are straight. 9his .henomenon can also be seen in chronic alcoholics.
<econdly, it is harmful to your body. <tudies have shown that the tar in cannabis is #:0= harmful then tobacco and is
also an active carcinogen. 9he reason that it is used for cancer .atients is to mitigate the nausea that accom.anies
chemo treatments.
It affects short term memory in chronic users as well.
2ere are some excer.ts from the wiki.edia article of the health effects of cannabis
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A Dutch double blind, randomi$ed, placebo%controlled, cross%o#er study e"amining male #olunteers aged
&'()* years with a self%reported history of regular cannabis use concluded that smoking of cannabis with
#ery high +, le#els -mari.uana with /(012 +,3, as currently sold in coffee shops in the Netherlands,
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may lead to higher +, blood%serum concentrations. +his is reflected by an increase of the occurrence
of impaired psychomotor skills, particularly among younger or ine"perienced cannabis smokers, who do
not adapt their smoking%style to the higher +, content.4056 igh +, concentrations in cannabis was
associated with a dose%related increase of physical effects -such as increase of heart rate, and decrease
of blood pressure3 and psychomotor effects -such as reacting more slowly, being less concentrated,
making more mistakes during performance testing, ha#ing less motor control, and e"periencing
drowsiness3. It was also obser#ed during the study that the effects from a single .oint lasted for more
than eight hours. Reaction times were remained impaired fi#e hours after smoking, when the +, serum
concentrations were significantly reduced, but still present. 7hen sub.ects smoke on se#eral occasions
per day, accumulation of +, in blood%serum may occur.
Another study showed that consumption of &* mg of Delta-/3%+, resulted in no learning whatsoe#er
occurring o#er a three%trial selecti#e reminding task after two hours. In se#eral tasks, delta-/3%+,
increased both speed and error rates, reflecting 8riskier9 speed(accuracy trade%offs.40&6
Neurological effects
+he areas of the brain where cannabinoid receptors are most pre#alently located are consistent with the
beha#ioral effects produced by cannabinoids. :rain regions in which cannabinoid receptors are #ery
abundant are the basal ganglia, associated with mo#ement control; the cerebellum, associated with body
mo#ement coordination; the hippocampus, associated with learning, memory, and stress control; the
cerebral corte", associated with higher cogniti#e functions; and the nucleus accumbens, regarded as the
reward center of the brain. <ther regions where cannabinoid receptors are moderately concentrated are
the hypothalamus, which regulates homeostatic functions; the amygdala, associated with emotional
responses and fears; the spinal cord, associated with peripheral sensations like pain; the brain stem,
associated with sleep, arousal, and motor control; and the nucleus of the solitary tract, associated with
#isceral sensations like nausea and #omiting.4006
!ost notably, the two areas of motor control and memory are where the effects of cannabis are directly
and irrefutably e#ident. ,annabinoids, depending on the dose, inhibit the transmission of neural signals
through the basal ganglia and cerebellum. At lower doses, cannabinoids seem to stimulate locomotion
while greater doses inhibit it, most commonly manifested by lack of steadiness -body sway and hand
steadiness3 in motor tasks that re=uire a lot of attention. <ther brain regions, like the corte", the
cerebellum, and the neural pathway from corte" to striatum, are also in#ol#ed in the control of mo#ement
and contain abundant cannabinoid receptors, indicating their possible in#ol#ement as well.
>"periments on animal and human tissue ha#e shown the potential for the disruption of short%term
memory,4&)6 which is consistent with the abundance of ,:& receptors on the hippocampus, the region of
the brain most closely associated with memory. ,annabinoids inhibit the release of se#eral
neurotransmitters in the hippocampus, like acetylcholine, norepinephrine, and glutamate, resulting in a
ma.or decrease in neuronal acti#ity in that region. +his decrease in acti#ity resembles a ?temporary
hippocampal lesion.?4&)6 In the end, this procedure could lead to the blocking of cellular processes that
are associated with memory formation. As the drug is metaboli$ed, normal neurological acti#ity is
e#entually restored.
In in%#itro e"periments +, at e"tremely high concentrations, which could not be reached with
commonly consumed doses, caused competiti#e inhibition of the A,h> en$yme and inhibition of @%
amyloid peptide aggregation, the cause of Al$heimerAs disease. ,ompared to currently appro#ed drugs
prescribed for the treatment of Al$heimerAs disease, +, is a considerably superior inhibitor of A
aggregation, and this study pro#ides a pre#iously unrecogni$ed molecular mechanism through which
cannabinoid molecules may directly impact the progression of this debilitating disease.4016
[edit] Effects of cannabis on driving
It is known that cannabis consumption affects motor skills, refle"es, attention and perception, therefore
affecting dri#ing ability.
A 055& study by the United Kingdom +ransit Research Baboratory -+RB3 specifically focuses on the
effects of cannabis use on dri#ing -see report hereC 4&163, and is one of the most recent and commonly
=uoted studies on the sub.ect. +he report summari$es current knowledge about the effects of cannabis
on dri#ing and accident risk based on a re#iew of a#ailable literature published since &//) and the
effects of cannabis on laboratory based tasks.
+he study identified young males, amongst whom cannabis consumption is fre=uent and increasing, and
in whom alcohol consumption is also common, as an a priori risk group for traffic accidents. +his is due
to dri#ing ine"perience and factors associated with youth relating to risk taking, delin=uency and
moti#ation. +hese demographic and psychosocial #ariables may relate to both drug use and accident
risk, thereby presenting an artificial relationship between use of drugs and accident in#ol#ement.
+he effects of cannabis on laboratory%based tasks show clear impairment with respect to tracking ability,
attention, and other tasks depending on the dose administered. +hese effects howe#er, are not as
pronounced on real world tasks, like dri#ing or simulator tasks. :oth simulation and road trials generally
find that dri#ing beha#ior shortly after consumption of larger doses of cannabis results inC
D increased #ariability in lane position -such as taking a cur#e too tightly or too loosely3.
D longer decision times, leading to slower responses to dri#ing situations; and
D a more cautious dri#ing style, including slower a#erage speed and greater following
distance.
7hereas these results indicate a AchangeA from normal conditions, they do not necessarily reflect
AimpairmentA in terms of performance effecti#eness, since few studies report increased accident risk.
owe#er, the results do suggest AimpairmentA in terms of performance efficiency gi#en that some of these
beha#iors may limit the a#ailable resources to cope with any additional, une"pected or high demand,
e#ents. Indeed, compensatory effort may be in#oked to offset impairment in the dri#ing task. Eub.ects
under cannabis treatment may percei#e that they are impaired and may strategically compensate, for
e"ample, by not o#ertaking, by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response
will be re=uired. +his compensatory effort may be one reason for the failure to implicate cannabis
consumption as an accident risk factor, particularly at lower doses or with more than about one hour after
consumption. According to the +RB study, the same compensatory beha#ior could also be an
unconscious adaptation, similar to reduced dri#ing speeds used by a sleepy dri#er.
Epecifically, )%&02 of accident fatalities ha#e detected le#els of cannabis.4citation needed6 owe#er,
most studies report that the ma.ority of fatal cases with detected le#els of cannabis are compounded by
alcohol.
+he study estimates && ngFml +, as the e=ui#alent dose to the legal limit of alcohol -5.5'2 :A, in the
UK3. ,omplicating this assessment is the fact that cannabis effects on dri#ing fade after a short period of
time, while some +, may be present in the body for weeks.
Eimilar conclusions ha#e been reached by studies maintained by the federal go#ernments of Australia,
United Kingdom, New Gealand and the United Etates -see here for a list of studies3. +hose studies that
ha#e concluded that cannabis has a significant negati#e effect on dri#ing ability generally in#ol#e the use
of roadside sobriety tests as an indicator of reduced ability -for e"ample, see this NIDA report3. owe#er,
studies that employ this methodology show that a ma.ority of sub.ects who tested positi#e for +, also
tested positi#e for alcohol, already described as a limiting factor of #alidity.
Reproducti#e effects
!ari.uana has been reported both to enhance and lessen the sub.ecti#e en.oyment of se". 41H641'6 It has
been shown that administration of high doses of +, to animals lowers serum testosterone le#els,
impairs sperm production, motility, and #iability, disrupts the o#ulation cycle, and decreases output of
gonadotropic hormones.4&0641/6 According to the &//H !erck !anual of Diagnosis and +herapy, fertility
effects related to cannabis use are uncertain.
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Research has demonstrated that human sperm contains receptors which are stimulated by substances
like +, and other cannabis%related chemicals.
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besides the Islamic .roof that cyber adbullah and others have .resented, there are serious flaws in the "facts" as
articulate has .resented them. 8irst of all, #ari5uana is an intoxicant. I have smoked enough of it in the .ast to be able
to testify to this. It slows the reflexes and this can be easily shown in reaction time studies. 9he only .eo.le that show
an increased score while on cannabis would be those that are chronic users and who have learned to function better
while stoned then when they are straight. 9his .henomenon can also be seen in chronic alcoholics.
<econdly, it is harmful to your body. <tudies have shown that the tar in cannabis is #:0= harmful then tobacco and is
also an active carcinogen. 9he reason that it is used for cancer .atients is to mitigate the nausea that accom.anies
chemo treatments.
It affects short term memory in chronic users as well.
2ere are some excer.ts from the wiki.edia article of the health effects of cannabis
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A Dutch double blind, randomi$ed, placebo%controlled, cross%o#er study e"amining male #olunteers aged
&'()* years with a self%reported history of regular cannabis use concluded that smoking of cannabis with
#ery high +, le#els -mari.uana with /(012 +,3, as currently sold in coffee shops in the Netherlands,
may lead to higher +, blood%serum concentrations. +his is reflected by an increase of the occurrence
of impaired psychomotor skills, particularly among younger or ine"perienced cannabis smokers, who do
not adapt their smoking%style to the higher +, content.4056 igh +, concentrations in cannabis was
associated with a dose%related increase of physical effects -such as increase of heart rate, and decrease
of blood pressure3 and psychomotor effects -such as reacting more slowly, being less concentrated,
making more mistakes during performance testing, ha#ing less motor control, and e"periencing
drowsiness3. It was also obser#ed during the study that the effects from a single .oint lasted for more
than eight hours. Reaction times were remained impaired fi#e hours after smoking, when the +, serum
concentrations were significantly reduced, but still present. 7hen sub.ects smoke on se#eral occasions
per day, accumulation of +, in blood%serum may occur.
Another study showed that consumption of &* mg of Delta-/3%+, resulted in no learning whatsoe#er
occurring o#er a three%trial selecti#e reminding task after two hours. In se#eral tasks, delta-/3%+,
increased both speed and error rates, reflecting 8riskier9 speed(accuracy trade%offs.40&6
Neurological effects
+he areas of the brain where cannabinoid receptors are most pre#alently located are consistent with the
beha#ioral effects produced by cannabinoids. :rain regions in which cannabinoid receptors are #ery
abundant are the basal ganglia, associated with mo#ement control; the cerebellum, associated with body
mo#ement coordination; the hippocampus, associated with learning, memory, and stress control; the
cerebral corte", associated with higher cogniti#e functions; and the nucleus accumbens, regarded as the
reward center of the brain. <ther regions where cannabinoid receptors are moderately concentrated are
the hypothalamus, which regulates homeostatic functions; the amygdala, associated with emotional
responses and fears; the spinal cord, associated with peripheral sensations like pain; the brain stem,
associated with sleep, arousal, and motor control; and the nucleus of the solitary tract, associated with
#isceral sensations like nausea and #omiting.4006
!ost notably, the two areas of motor control and memory are where the effects of cannabis are directly
and irrefutably e#ident. ,annabinoids, depending on the dose, inhibit the transmission of neural signals
through the basal ganglia and cerebellum. At lower doses, cannabinoids seem to stimulate locomotion
while greater doses inhibit it, most commonly manifested by lack of steadiness -body sway and hand
steadiness3 in motor tasks that re=uire a lot of attention. <ther brain regions, like the corte", the
cerebellum, and the neural pathway from corte" to striatum, are also in#ol#ed in the control of mo#ement
and contain abundant cannabinoid receptors, indicating their possible in#ol#ement as well.
>"periments on animal and human tissue ha#e shown the potential for the disruption of short%term
memory,4&)6 which is consistent with the abundance of ,:& receptors on the hippocampus, the region of
the brain most closely associated with memory. ,annabinoids inhibit the release of se#eral
neurotransmitters in the hippocampus, like acetylcholine, norepinephrine, and glutamate, resulting in a
ma.or decrease in neuronal acti#ity in that region. +his decrease in acti#ity resembles a ?temporary
hippocampal lesion.?4&)6 In the end, this procedure could lead to the blocking of cellular processes that
are associated with memory formation. As the drug is metaboli$ed, normal neurological acti#ity is
e#entually restored.
In in%#itro e"periments +, at e"tremely high concentrations, which could not be reached with
commonly consumed doses, caused competiti#e inhibition of the A,h> en$yme and inhibition of @%
amyloid peptide aggregation, the cause of Al$heimerAs disease. ,ompared to currently appro#ed drugs
prescribed for the treatment of Al$heimerAs disease, +, is a considerably superior inhibitor of A
aggregation, and this study pro#ides a pre#iously unrecogni$ed molecular mechanism through which
cannabinoid molecules may directly impact the progression of this debilitating disease.4016
[edit] Effects of cannabis on driving
It is known that cannabis consumption affects motor skills, refle"es, attention and perception, therefore
affecting dri#ing ability.
A 055& study by the United Kingdom +ransit Research Baboratory -+RB3 specifically focuses on the
effects of cannabis use on dri#ing -see report hereC 4&163, and is one of the most recent and commonly
=uoted studies on the sub.ect. +he report summari$es current knowledge about the effects of cannabis
on dri#ing and accident risk based on a re#iew of a#ailable literature published since &//) and the
effects of cannabis on laboratory based tasks.
+he study identified young males, amongst whom cannabis consumption is fre=uent and increasing, and
in whom alcohol consumption is also common, as an a priori risk group for traffic accidents. +his is due
to dri#ing ine"perience and factors associated with youth relating to risk taking, delin=uency and
moti#ation. +hese demographic and psychosocial #ariables may relate to both drug use and accident
risk, thereby presenting an artificial relationship between use of drugs and accident in#ol#ement.
+he effects of cannabis on laboratory%based tasks show clear impairment with respect to tracking ability,
attention, and other tasks depending on the dose administered. +hese effects howe#er, are not as
pronounced on real world tasks, like dri#ing or simulator tasks. :oth simulation and road trials generally
find that dri#ing beha#ior shortly after consumption of larger doses of cannabis results inC
D increased #ariability in lane position -such as taking a cur#e too tightly or too loosely3.
D longer decision times, leading to slower responses to dri#ing situations; and
12gina ; 4e 35 Is mari6uana 7aram8 9 1age :
a more cautious driving style, including slower average speed and greater following
distance.
Whereas these results indicate a 'change' from normal conditions, they do not necessarily reflect
'impairment' in terms of performance effectiveness, since few studies report increased accident risk.
However, the results do suggest 'impairment' in terms of performance efficiency given that some of these
behaviors may limit the available resources to cope with any additional, unexpected or high demand,
events. Indeed, compensatory effort may be invoked to offset impairment in the driving task. ub!ects
under cannabis treatment may perceive that they are impaired and may strategically compensate, for
example, by not overtaking, by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response
will be re"uired. #his compensatory effort may be one reason for the failure to implicate cannabis
consumption as an accident risk factor, particularly at lower doses or with more than about one hour after
consumption. $ccording to the #%& study, the same compensatory behavior could also be an
unconscious adaptation, similar to reduced driving speeds used by a sleepy driver.
pecifically, '()*+ of accident fatalities have detected levels of cannabis.,citation needed- However,
most studies report that the ma!ority of fatal cases with detected levels of cannabis are compounded by
alcohol.
#he study estimates )) ng.ml #H/ as the e"uivalent dose to the legal limit of alcohol 01.12+ 3$/ in the
456. /omplicating this assessment is the fact that cannabis effects on driving fade after a short period of
time, while some #H/ may be present in the body for weeks.
imilar conclusions have been reached by studies maintained by the federal governments of $ustralia,
4nited 5ingdom, 7ew 8ealand and the 4nited tates 0see here for a list of studies6. #hose studies that
have concluded that cannabis has a significant negative effect on driving ability generally involve the use
of roadside sobriety tests as an indicator of reduced ability 0for example, see this 7I9$ report6. However,
studies that employ this methodology show that a ma!ority of sub!ects who tested positive for #H/ also
tested positive for alcohol, already described as a limiting factor of validity.
%eproductive effects
:ari!uana has been reported both to enhance and lessen the sub!ective en!oyment of sex. ,;<-,;2- It has
been shown that administration of high doses of #H/ to animals lowers serum testosterone levels,
impairs sperm production, motility, and viability, disrupts the ovulation cycle, and decreases output of
gonadotropic hormones.,)*-,;=- $ccording to the )==< :erck :anual of 9iagnosis and #herapy, fertility
effects related to cannabis use are uncertain.
%esearch has demonstrated that human sperm contains receptors which are stimulated by substances
like #H/ and other cannabis(related chemicals.
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All these Intoxcants are !araam,
also worth notn" s that destro#n" onesel$ s not %ermtted n Islam,
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4mar al(Aaroo" 0ra6 mentioned that all intoxicants are khamr. #hat should be enough to refute the
deviancy of the individual I "uote but shaytans like him want to legitimise their desires, so they engage in
sophistry to prove Islam allows something which it clearly does not.
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,or $uslims they are to abstain ,rom these Khabeeth substances ...
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i forgot to mention matters of illegal and legal differ very much from illegal and legal. tobacco and alcohol
are far more harmful than mari!uana but are legal. a drug called salvia is legal and is a hallucinogen and
is legal does that make it halalB
0i do think alcohol is haram, and as for tobacco i lean towards haram but am not sure6
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17AKI8( 0hey ask you about intoxicants and games o, chance. 1ay( In both o, them there is a great sin and means o,
pro,it ,or men, and their sin is greater than their pro,it. And they ask you as to what they should spend. 1ay( =hat you
can spare. 0hus does Allah make clear to you the communications, that you may ponder >2(2%4?
=hat else is there to talk about@ Discussions o)er, Allah calls it a great sin. And 0e'oma pro)ed that it is an intoxicant.
And I dont think your ,ast in 8amadan will be )alid with this smoking. Ask a sheikh, but I am not sure you can smoke
and still keep the ,ast, so watch out ,or 8amadan inshallah on 0uesday.
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one again id like to reiterate that the word in the koran is khamr which is alcohol not intoxicant. i would also not deem
wikipedia as a reliable resource if you go read about our religon itself on wikipedia it says many things which almost all
of us would agree are not part of our religon for example wikipedia says this "Every person is assigned a special jinn to
them, also called a qareen, they are the jinns what whisper into your soul and tell you to give into your evil desires. The
rophet !uhammad"s jinn turned into a !uslim jinn, on the recitation of the #ur"an, as the jinn found it most beautiful."
so why use wikipedia as a reliable source
and for everyone reading i wnat to point out that the people who agree and defend what i say seem to be the most
educated in their writing but the people who disagree with my view seem to not know what they are saying and just use
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i also forgot to add that included in my view is that marijuana is not haram if used in moderation because moderation is
the key in islam, if i were to sum up the purpose of religon in one word -aside from the aspect of the one ness in god. i
would use the word moderation.
moderation in marijuana gives you all the benefits of it and not the negatives. if anything is taken in an extreme form it
can be harmful. for example even drinking to much water to extreme measures can be dangerous, or if you exercise
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dude ... i use to smoke weed and trust me i used to have the same thoughts as you...but nwo my minds clear enough
to see that its wrong.
and you """forgot""" to mention the effects of memory loss3
but i think we can all see that you """forgot""" to add this post in 33..wonder why44
i can really see my past self in you ..just try and quit it..and you"ll be thanking me.
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i also forgot to add that included in my view is that mari!uana is not haram if used in moderation because
moderation is the key in islam, if i were to sum up the purpose of religon in one word 0aside from the
aspect of the one ness in god6 i would use the word moderation.
moderation in mari!uana gives you all the benefits of it and not the negatives. if anything is taken in an
extreme form it can be harmful. for example even drinking to much water to extreme measures can be
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smoking breaks the ;ast this is well known akhi ...
it is a double sin to do so in 7amadan,
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H$5I%? #hey ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. ay? In both of them there is a great sin
and means of profit for men, and their sin is greater than their profit. $nd they ask you as to what they
should spend. ay? What you can spare. #hus does $llah make clear to you the communications, that
you may ponder 0*?*)=6
What else is there to talk aboutB 9iscussions over, $llah calls it a great sin. $nd #e'oma proved that it is
an intoxicant.
$nd I dont think your fast in %amadan will be valid with this smoking. $sk a sheikh, but I am not sure you
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# hav% smok%d marijuana a'most %v%ry day $or th% past y%ar. # want to stop (ut it is v%ry v%ry hard. !rguing that
"arijuana is not haram is stupid. 4h%th%r or not it has n%gativ% or positiv% a$$%cts o$ into5ication has nothing to do with
it. Th% point is that is into5icat%s you and any into5icant is haram.
4hat # do (%'i%v% though is that it is not 6aram to us% in m%dica' cas%s. # (%'i%v% it is us%$u' and 'aw$u' to us% to h%'p
with hung%r and naus%a in ch%moth%rapy pati%nts, as w% a'' know th% pr%scription m%dication that is giv%n to th%m $or
that usua''y mak%s it wors%. # (%'i%v% this (%caus% th% p%rson do%s not smok% th% marijuana to %5p%ri%nc% th% %$$%cts
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4hich mak%s m% wond%r i$ pr%scription pain ki''%rs ar% haram. Th% drugs morphin%, o5ycodon%, and hydrocodon% ar%
a'' d%riv%d $rom th% opium p'ant and ar% us%d in th% tr%atm%nt o$ chronic pain, and hav% o(vious into5icating %$$%cts
wh%n tak%n. #$ th%s% drugs ar% not haram $or th% purpos% o$ du''ing th% pain, it wou'd (% hypocritica' to say that
marijuana wou'd (% haram %v%n in th% us% o$ canc%r pati%nts. Th% sam% thing go%s $or d%5trom%thorphan 789":
which is $ound in cough syrup. 8rinking a 'ot o$ it wi'' g%t you r%a''y m%ss%d up, (ut # don&t (%'i%v% it is consid%r%d
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Th% *uot% that says ;i$ it is into5icating in 'arg% *uantiti%s, it is $or(idd%n in sma'' *uantiti%s; a'so mak%s m% wond%r
a(out nutm%g. -utm%g has prov%n psycoactiv% a$$%cts wh%n tak%n in 'arg% amounts 7it r%a''y m%ss%s you up:. 8o%s
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In the Name of Allaah. Most
Merciful. Most Gracious. Most
Beneficent.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Avoid this Drug
I smoked eed for to !ears.
Paranoid. Attention Seeking.
Shirk. No Salat. "eedlessness.
Against m! #arents. "ate.
Bitterness. $reemasonr!.
Ansering to sha!tans
his#ers.. ending u# in %lack
magic attack& $rom darkness
into light.. do realise hen !ou
smoke it !ou leave the orld
and enter another dark orld..
ithout ghusl and udu and
dua and salat !ou ma! never
enter light again.. it destro!s
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this I offer the! !one" I offer
the! dua fro! !" heart a#oid
this dru$ read %urifi&ation of
the heart '" ha!(a "usuf
I ha#e s!oked weed for "ears
and dealt with the whole $a!e))
sta" awa" fro! this!!!
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Ori$inall" *osted '" !u"u!ara#
-first and foremost, america has turned its back on God
-it has turned its back on the statements of its origin, regarding equality, justice and liberty
-it has become a prostitute of money and will sell its very soul for a profit
-it has taken the word, decadence, to new levels never previously known in human history
-it has began a war against islam
-can obama fix this? only if he is helped by God, Himself
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Thats funny your listing those side effects from a freaking lant!! "hen "e get rescri#ed medicine all the time "ith lists
of side effects t"ice as long as that!! "hat a#out rescrition drugs$ those alter you too%%a lot "orse than "eed and
cause "ay more ro#lems in the long run than smoking a #eautiful lant
&ro#lems "ith memory and learning& lol are you serious haha i smoke e'ery single day and i do #etter in school no"
then i e'er did #efore!! lol
(nd seriously if you dont kno" if it)s 100* haram l+ dont say it is%% and i dou#t any of you kno" that
,t is not an into-icant .ust #ecause the go'ernment tells you it is you ignorant eole%%do u seriously #elie'e e'erything
the go'ernment tells you$
(ll it does is it intensifies your senses and it)s a"esome
oh and for the &mind altering effect&%%yes it makes you think!! #ut that)s a good thing since o#'iously no#ody
thinks%%esecially #efore they seak!!
smoking ot actually heled me change my life around and sto drinking and start racticing islam #ecause it makes
you T/,01!! not into-icate #ut 203,4/T20
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his isn!t complete ignorance" #hat your doctor friend says is irrelevant - there are countless peer-
reviewed scientific papers detailing studies that show a link between cannabis use and
psychosis
schi$ophrenia
%roblems with memory and learning
&oss of co-ordination
'mpairment of the immune system
(epression
%ersonality changes
reproductive disabilities
)o ' suggest you look up those papers for the evidence you need, unless your doctor can come with
evidence or research disproving all those papers, there!s no point listening to him"
*ost of the evidence the legalisation lobby use is based on flawed science"
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9ou smoke e'ery day$
(re you Muslim$
, used to smoke e'ery day too "hen , "as a 1((7,:% ;hen , came into ,slam it "as o#'ious that , had to sto as it
"as an into-icant% 0o one "ho has e'er smoked her# can say its not an into-icant%
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hats funny your listing those side effects from a freaking plant++ when we get prescribed medicine all the
time with lists of side effects twice as long as that++ what about prescription drugs? those alter you too""a
lot worse than weed and cause way more problems in the long run than smoking a beautiful plant
,problems with memory and learning, lol are you serious haha i smoke every single day and i do better in
school now then i ever did before++ lol
-nd seriously if you dont know if it!s .//0 haram pl$ dont say it is"" and i doubt any of you know that
't is not an intoxicant just because the government tells you it is you ignorant people""do u seriously
believe everything the government tells you?
-ll it does is it intensifies your senses and it!s awesome
oh and for the ,mind altering effect,""yes it makes you think++ but that!s a good thing since obviously
nobody thinks""especially before they speak++
smoking pot actually helped me change my life around and stop drinking and start practicing islam
because it makes you H'12++ not intoxicate but 31&'GH31
First they ame !or the "#errorists"$ and I did not spea% out&
#hen they ame !or the !undraisers$ and I did not spea% out&
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Did you read my post above?
You ignorant people? Brother/Sister step back a moment..
When a Muslim takes the joint/spli to his/her lips! and they take that irst gasp o smoke.. the angels surrounding them
leave.. they become surrounded by a circle o shaytan and jinn.. they cannot "#$%& or themselves and their mind
state is altered.. the heart begins to beat aster.. time sort o slo's do'n and everything is a sel being thought.. you
begin to sink a'ay rom (llaah and the connection o light and enter darkness.. very dangerous game..
(nd you say it makes you think?
)annabis is an into*ication. $t does not rela* you. $t alters the mind state! it puts you in not only a dierent state o
mind.. but (stagir(llaah your soul also gets placed in another 'orld +not mind state, you are in the 'orld o
disbelievers.. lonely and lost
S"(Y (W(Y -./M )(%%(B$S .. $ smoked it or more than t'o years and it ruined my lie. $ still am scared rom it0
Mentally and physically..
1you ignorant people1 do not insult the scholars! the sister scholars and the brothers and sisters 'ho been their! done
that and got the t2shirt it is haram..
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Your argument is so ull o holes and so peppered 'ith contradiction! it<s diicult to kno' 'here to begin.
:. -irst you say 1it is not an into*icant1. "hen you contradict yoursel by admitting it has a 1mind altering eect1. %ot
content 'ith that! you contradict yoursel a second time by stating 1it intensiies your senses1. Do you even kno' 'hat
1into*ication1 means? $n this conte*t! into*ication doesn<t mean 1alling do'n drunk1! it means 1to e*ite or stimulate
through use o a chemical substance1.
4. 3rescription drugs may have more harmul eects +long2term, than marijuana! but they are usually administered in
controlled doses! thus removing most the potential or harm. Besides! you cannot justiy! or make permissible! the use
o one particular drug by comparing it avourably 'ith another! stronger into*icant. By that logic! having a couple o
beers 'ould be perectly /& because it<s better than injecting heroin.
8. Marijuana may be a plant! but then so is the opium poppy. Does that make heroin halal? )ocaine comes rom the
coca lea...is that permissible no'?
7. Marijuana use is ine*orably linked to memory loss! both short2term and long2term.
=. -inally! you don<t need marijuana to think or be enlightened! you just need to open your eyes! step out o your
1comort >one1! obverse 'hat you see and relect upon those observations. %o drugs necessary.
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umm, sorry to tell ya this, but your not &enlightened&'''
your stoned
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some time in the mas+id ,iti-aa). reading /uran and inshaa $llah, then, you (ill really be &thin-ing&
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1he harm)ul e))ects o) mari+uana on the 2rain and 3entral 4er5ous 6ystem
7mpaired thin-ing, mood, memory, and coordination
%ari+uana ,183. is an e9tremely po(er)ul and pleasurable into9icant' 7t a))ects, alters, and damages brain cells
controlling thin-ing, emotion, pleasure, coordination, mood and memory' 1he pituitary gland is also damaged (hich
regulates hunger, thirst, blood pressure, se9ual beha5ior, and release o) se9 hormones'
3logged synapses, brain damage and addiction
%ari+uana accumulates in the microscopic spaces bet(een ner5e cells in the brain called &synapses'& 1his clogging
inter)eres by slo(ing and impairing trans)er critical in)ormation'
:ong term use causes the brain to stop production o) brain chemicals necessary to &)eel good& ! a negati5e )eedbac-
condition' $nd, the user becomes chemically addicted to mari+uana'
1he harm)ul e))ects o) mari+uana on the 8eart
6peeds up heartbeat as much as 50;, increases blood pressure, and poses great ris- to those (ith hypertension and
heart disease'
1he harm)ul e))ects o) mari+uana on the <ndocrine 6ystem
%ari+uana damages the net(or- o) glands, organs, and hormones in5ol5ed in gro(th and de5elopment, energy le5els,
and reproduction'
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The harmful effects of marijuana on the Reproductive System males and females
Marijuana use can decrease and degenerate sperm, sperm count, movement, and cause lowered sex drive. Females
can have egg damage, suppression of ovulation, disrupt menstrual cycles, and alteration of hormone levels.
Regular use during pregnancy can lower birth weight and cause abnormalities similar to Fetal lcohol Syndrome !small
head, irritability, poor growth and development.
"an destroy the number of chromosomes, resulting in cell abnormalities and impaired function.
#ther affects on the central nervous system
distortions of perceptions, thin$ing and reality
%ifficulty in forming concepts and thoughts
&oor concentration
Mental confusion
'oss of motivation
(ide mood swings
ggression and hostility
%epression, anxiety and paranoia
The harmful effects of marijuana on the )yes
Sleep loo$ing, blood*shot eyes with dilated pupils.
The harmful effects of marijuana on the Throat
+rritates membranes of the esophagus, increases chance of developing cancer of larynx and esophagus.
The harmful effects of marijuana on the 'ungs
Significant damage and destruction of the air sacs of the lungs, reducing the lungs ability to bring oxygen and remove
carbon dioxide * )mphysema.
"auses bronchial tubes to be inflamed, thic$ened and to produce more mucus, resulting in narrowing of the air
passages * "hronic -ronchitis.
Marijuana smo$e has twice as much .tar. as cigarette smo$e and significantly increases chance of lung cancer,
inflammation and infection.
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Marijuana2 3as 4// $nown chemicals, 51 of them affect the brain, the T3" or delta 6 Tetrahydro "annabinol is the
most active ingredient. Marijuana impairs memory, concentration and reading capacity. +ncreases anxiety,
apprehension and fear. +t damages heart and lung. +t lowers testosterone !male hormone7 and sperm count and affects
the outcome of pregnancy. +t is more carcinogenic than cigarettes.
Cocaine2 potent brain stimulant, was initially thought to be harmless, thus added to the soft drin$ !co$e7 in 16//.
(hen given intravenously, it produces intense high and intense low !depression7, hallucination, convulsion, cardiac
arrest and death.
Heroin2 !#pium7 morphine derivative. 8sually injected by needle, but can be snorted or smo$ed. +t is highly addictive
with intensely withdrawal. #verdose results in death.
Amphetamines2 re .pep pills. to fight fatigue and stay awa$e, suppress appetite, and stimulates heart and central
nervous system. %angerous in large doses and can cause psychological addiction.
Barbiturates2 re used to overcome intense high and produce sleep. +t can be fatal when used with alcohol.
LS !Aci"#: +t is a powerful hallucinogen, can cause psychotic reaction and mental brea$down.
$e% ru&s2 M%M !estacy7 is 'S% 9 "ocaine, causes disorientation initially but leads to permanent brain damage.
"hina (hite is 1,/// times more potent than heroin. M&T& causes &ar$insonism !brain damage7.
Alcohol2 lcohol damages all organs of the body in due course. +t damages liver !cirrhosis7, causes stomach bleeding
!ulcer7, heart !cardiomyopathy7, sex hormones and the immune system. +ts effect on the brain can be acute
!intoxication, delirium7 or chronic !ataxia, memory loss, coordination7. +t is lin$ed to breast cancer and fetal damage in
women. -ut it is violence, homicide, suicide and drun$ driving which ta$es most lives.
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/f course it into0icates+ when 1 drink alcohol 1 have less control along with when 1 smoke 2eed.
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"probles !ith eory and learnin"" lol are you serious haha i so#e e$ery sin"le day and i do better in
school no! then i e$er did be%ore&& lol
't is not an into(icant )ust because the "o$ernent tells you it is you i"norant people.
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7ismillah ir-8ahman ir-8ahim
9o. :his appears to be a heated topic. 1;m all heated up anticipating what kind of reply will spill out of fingers...
1;m a <ew 8evert. 1;ll preface my reply with that+ however damaging/redeeming. 1t happened /fficially in !ugust.
:his is a heated but 1)-/8:!<: topic. /ne of the main things 1 have noticed+ as a revert with no =ultural 1nfluence
>isguised !s 1slam+ is how culture/popular opinion have become as 1slamic as 1slam to some. !staghfirullah.
1;ll give an e0ample: learning 9alah. 1 didn;t have anyone to go to in order to ask about it+ so 1 was stuck reading
books/looking online. :here are 9/ many ways one is 9upposed :o /ffer 9alat. :his strikes me as representative of
the current state of most of the information out there that professes to be 1slamic. 1 won;t get into it+ but it is also my
/-1<1/< that the prevaiing interpretations of 9haria leave a lot to be desired... or could use a going-over with a 7ig
7lack )arker. :hat;s another thread...
1slam is 9o 9imple. :he ?ur;an is 9o 9imple+ 9traightforward. 1t is beyond me how anyone could live with themselves+
astaghfirullah+ when declaring what !llah @swtA has created for us to be B!8!)B!8!)B!8!) when it clearly states
in the ?ur;an that whosoever does this to the beautiful things he has given us is
! %ew erses %rom :he ?ur;an...
@translated by 9haikh )uhammad 9arwarC not sure if the verse 3s are spot onA
7ismillah ir-8ahman+ ir-8ahim...
4:**4-**( - D@!fter having revealed the ?ur;an to youA in all :ruth and Eustice+ your Ford;s word has been completed.
<o one can change Bis words. Be is !ll-hearing and !ll-knowing.
)ost of the people in the land will lead you away from God;s guidance if you follow themC they only follow their own
conEectures and preach falsehood. .our Ford knows best those who have gone astray from Bis path and those who
are rightly guided.D
4:*H*-*H& - D:hose who foolishly and ignorantly murdered their children+ ascribed falsehood to God and made unlawful
what Be had given to them for their sustenance+ have certainly lost much. :hey had gone far away from the right
guidance.D
*4:**I-**( - D@5nbelieversA+ do not follow whatever your lying tongues may tell you is lawful or unlawful to invent lies
against God. :hose who invent lies against God will have no happiness. @9uch an inventionA will bring only a little
enEoyment but will be followed by painful torment.D
/ur beautiful+ complete+ perfect -ath which we have been given between the covers of a book has been corrupted. 2e
have been led into the haram+ arrogant role of attributing things to !llah @swtA that come sinfully from our own mouths.
!llah @swtA prohibits al-khamr. ;6hamr; means wine+ according to the sources 1 read that aren;t also discussing the
?ur;anic verses. 1 am not fluent in !rabic. :his needs to be pointed out.
:rue story... after reverting to 1slam+ and learning enough !rabic to pray/e0claim/etc.+ 1 got stoned. 1;m not ashamed of
that. 1 am a native English speaker and the words flowed from my tongue in a way that 1 didn;t think 1 was prepared for.
:urns out 1 was. 1 got stoned and walked to the window+ praising our creator... 1 looked up+ and in Eust the right place in
the sky hung the biggest moon 1 had ever laid eyes on. :urns out it was the closest the moon had been to the Earth for
*" years. 1 got stoned and felt the urge to correct my horrible posture.
1 think it is indicative of how our 5mmah holds itself as-is @which 1 think we can all admit is not where we would like it to
be someday+ insha;!llahA when 1 read so many people+ so reluctant to challenge/make waves in the -opular 1slamic
/pinion. 2e should trust that !llah @swtA has given us the -erfect 2ay and not take it upon ourselves to add onto it.
-eople !re >ifferent. 9ome people don;t want to smoke mariEuana. 9ome people don;t want to perform tahaEEud. 9ome
people don;t like dates. 9ince we know what is e0cessive/ill-intentioned is haram+ it is safe to say that this applies to
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I know I have said a few(!) things many people may not agree with me on.
If you took the time to read what I spent a chunk of time researching/writing/admitting, thank you.
I guess I should also add that I feel strongly about this topic because I feel strongly/am etremely thankful for the
insights I have had due to a simple plant. !hese insights, it is not trivial to point out, are part of what led me to Islam.
"ost notably, understanding that #ll Is $ne (tawhid). !his was before Islam% when I learned that this is what Islam is all
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3ou4ve been "uslim for only 5 months (alhamdulillah) and admit to being unable to speak #rabic, yet you think of
yourself in a position to make statements like this2
'ow did you reach that opinion being unable to read so many classical tets6
&eave the scholarly opinion to the scholars, please.
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This stri#es e as representati$e o% the current state o% ost o% the in%oration out there that pro%esses
to be 'slaic. ' !on*t "et into it+ but it is also y ,-'.',. that the pre$aiin" interpretations o% /haria
lea$e a lot to be desired... or could use a "oin"-o$er !ith a 0i" 0lac# Mar#er. That*s another thread...
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!hank you for replying.
3eah, that was a bit assinine. Aorry
I still think that Islam has been infiltrated/is being undermined by people who want to take over the world...
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1ou*$e been Musli %or only 2 onths 3alhadulillah4 and adit to bein" unable to spea# Arabic+ yet
you thin# o% yoursel% in a position to a#e stateents li#e this:
5o! did you reach that opinion bein" unable to read so any classical te(ts6
Lea$e the scholarly opinion to the scholars+ please.
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!here4s no need to apologise, I actually enjoyed most your post, it was rather well.written and your passion for the
deen is palpable masha4#llaah.
&earn to focus that passion and you4ll be golden insha4#llaah. @ersonally, I love a dose of controversy with my
cornflakes, but polemical statements are never wise if you lack the necessary knowledge to support, eplain and
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Than# you %or replyin".
1eah+ that !as a bit assinine. /orry
' still thin# that 'sla has been in%iltrated7is bein" underined by people !ho !ant to ta#e o$er the
!orld...
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