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Healthcare Provider Call with Dr. Cathy Hart and Dr. Bo Kirkwood
December 10, 2013

Rick Gash: Welcome everyone to another Healthcare Provider Call, in which we will be
discussing a clinically proven product of Unicity International with two guest Healthcare
Practitioners tonight.

My background is a specialty pharmaceutical representative with one of the largest
pharmaceutical companies in the world; specializing in diabetes and cardio vascular disease
treatments. And one of the great privileges I had in working with that company is to be able to
address some of the biggest problems Americans facediabetes and obesity. One of the bad
things I had associated with working with that company were the ill side effects that their drugs
induced and unfortunately we had to use those options with patients because we didn't have very
other options. So the best thing that we could do was plagued with side effects. However about 4
years ago, I was presented a product that worked in this arena very well along side these
pharmaceutical drugs without having any ill side effects.

Were going to hear more about this product from our providers tonight but first of all Id like to
discuss the reason why we have this call. Cardiovascular disease, Diabetes and Obesity is not
just limited to the US. In fact, CDC says just here in America, 9 out of 10 people will be diabetic
or pre-diabetic by the year 2030, and that is a global epidemic. So tonight were going to talk
about Unicity International, and a product called Unicity Balance which used to be called Bios
Life Slim, and were going to talk about a Prime Health Pack and an elite fitness program. Also,
the efficacy, safety, and practice incorporation of this program and what you can expect as a
practitioner.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ First Interview with Dr. Cathy Hart ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So lets get started. Our first guest speaker is somebody thats been on this call before, but it is
just an honor to have her back again, as she will be talking about treating diabetes, and of course
obesity being one of biggest influence/problems associated with diabetes, because she has been
able to use this product very successfully in her practice. Board Certified Family Practitioner
Doctor Cathy Hart, welcome to the call.

Dr. Hart: Thank you Rick, its a pleasure to be here.

Rick Gash: Its always a pleasure to have you too. And if you wouldnt mind, if we can start,
many of these people are listening for the first time and have not heard you before, can you give
us a little bit of your background.

Dr. Hart: Absolutely. My name is Dr. Cathy Hart. Im a Board Certified Family Physician
in private practice outside Houston. I was exposed to Bios Life Slim at the time and now called
Balance, 4 years ago by an interventional cardiologist that I worked with in my community. She
thought Id be interested in the product from a weight loss perspective because of working
outside of Houston. Houston has had the dubious honor of being the Number One fattest city 4
years in a row in this country. By the way, we lost that honor this year to another city in Texas,
McCallen TX. So she thought Id be interested in Balance for weight loss in my Family Medical
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Practice and I literally jumped on board just for that reason. It was only after seeing the result
that I then realized what I had my hands on. So now 4 years later, this product has become the
first line treatment for me for Diabetes, Hyperlipidemia, Obesity, Over-weight, Polycystic
Ovarian syndrome, Irritable Bowel Syndrome it just has such a broad application.

Rick Gash: Wow, Dr. Hart, this is really amazing. Were starting the call off with talking
about Balance being first line therapy, so were going to have to back some of that up here.
Thats what I love about having you on this call is you have the data to back all this up. So lets
dont start there, lets start back a little bit back here with the company. A little bit about Unicity
International and about what this product Balance that youre talking about what it consists of, if
you dont mind.

Dr. Hart: Absolutely, Unicity International is an American company thats been around for
nearly 25 years. Its a spin-off company from our favorite old pharmacy, RexAll Pharmacy.
Rexall Pharmacy actually funded the research at Stanford University College of Medicine that
developed the original version of this product were talking about. And then they realized that
this product cant sit on a pharmacy shelf and sell itself, so they created a company around that
product which has evolved into what we know today as Unicity International.

The product itself is the blend of 5 different soluble and insoluble fibers, along with policosanol,
phytosterols, chrysanthemum, and a bunch of vitamins, B and C and others. All of which are in a
special fiber matrix. This fiber matrix gels in the stomach, so the product is consumed, you mix it
up in about 10 ounces of cold water, you shake it up, down the hatch, right before your two
biggest meals of the day. And the fiber gels up in the stomach so you feel a little full before eat,
so you naturally eat a little less, but more importantly, it coats the stomach and upper part of the
small bowel and delays food from being absorbed. It doesnt block it, it just delays it, which
means that your post-prandial glucose spike is 30% lower with a single packet of this product.
That means that your post-prandial insulin spike is 30% lower, which translates into being able
to get insulin out of your bloodstream faster, which opens fat cells up to burn fat between meals.

And then we get exposed to a hormone most of us havent seen in years and probably forgot
about since first year at medical school. Its a hormone called Leptin, which is released by your
Adiposities. The Leptin goes to our brain and tells us were not hungry, so it has a natural
appetite suppression mechanism as well. So thats the nuts and bolts of how it works.

Rick Gash: Thats really a very good explanation of that. Im taking notes as well Dr. Hart.
And of course going in to reduce the post-prandial glucose and insulin by some 30% in just a
couple packets of this, and you say shake it up and down the hatch. Now this is relatively simple
then to do, so obviously with something simple to do, its also simple not to do, so I imagine you
have a little bit of compliance issues, can you tell us a little bit of what you see in your practice
with this product and what you can expect when you get patients started on Unicity Balance?

Dr. Hart: Sure thing. From the way I approach it with my patients is well actually let me
give you numbers. You can understand why Im about to make the following statements and tell
you the results that I have. So our clinical studies have proven, and my four years of experience,
and Dr. Secrists twenty years experience, and all these other providers that have been with the
company can tell you that we see these numbers every day. The clinical studies prove a 30%
reduction in LDL, a 30% increase in HDL, a 40% reduction in Triglycerides, a 2 to 3 full point
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drop in the A1c, and an average weight loss of 6 to 10 pounds a month. I see it every single day
in my practice.

And so the conversation with the patient becomes something like this, Mr. Jones, you have a
new diagnosis of diabetes. Id like to talk to you today about how were going to manage that so
we decrease your risk of heart attack and stroke, and prevent blindness and kidney problems. I
can start you on a medicine to lower your Triglycerides, I can start you on a medicine to lower
your bad cholesterol. Neither of those will raise your good cholesterol very much, and you have
to monitor your liver on those, especially on that combination because that combination can
cause damage to your liver, but well watch it closely so you dont have to, so that everything
will be fine. Then Im going to have to start you on at least 2 prescription medications pills for
your diabetes, because your A1c is over 8, and of course Im going to explain to him what that
means. And then, so all of those will make your numbers better, so that your cholesterol gets a
little better, your good cholesterol goes up maybe a little bit, triglycerides come down, your
blood sugar will get under better control, well have to monitor your liver and your kidneys, and
none of it will help you lose weight, and none of it is going to make you healthier. They are just
going to make your numbers better.

Or, we can start you on Unicity Balance. One packet, twice a day before your two largest meals.
And this single product will lower your bad LDL Cholesterol, at least as powerfully as the
cholesterol medicine, with no side effects and no potential liver problems. It will raise your good
HDL Cholesterol 30%, which none of the other prescription medicines can do. It will lower your
Triglycerides significantly, and its going to help you lose weight, and will completely control
your blood sugar, all of which makes you healthier in the process, because were attacking the
underlying problems, which is the over-production of Insulin and causes all of your belly fat.
Which would you like to do?

So typically, my patients will say gosh, I have a choice between five different prescription
medicines all at once, or taking this fiber supplement twice a day? I think Ill take the fiber
supplement twice a day. So its amazing that they just have great results and Im seeing a
patient back tomorrow morning, hes been on Balance for four years now, he and his wife both.
He has lost over 60 pounds. When I met him, he was not only on Insulin, but several oral agents
as well as Blood Pressure medications and Cholesterol medications, and three months ago when
I checked his A1c, it was 5.1 on no prescription medications at all. No Insulin, no Pills, nothing.
His A1c is 5.1. He has maintained his 60 pound weight loss for four years, and he feels great.
His wife has had very similar results. She is completely off prescription medications, has
maintained an 80 pound weight loss, and they both just feel great.

Rick Gash: Well lets go back over some of this, Dr. Hart. Its some impressive results you
shared. Its like you said, this is something that practitioners see across the board as a daily
occurrence. And let me just reiterate some of these numbers you went over. First of all, clinical
trials, besides what you see in your practice, that just really put a stamp on what you see in the
trial, a 30% reduction in LDL (thats the bad Cholesterol), a 30% increase in HDL (the good
Cholesterol, which from the pharmaceutical world its just very hard pressed, some may claim it,
but Ive never seen it as you said, not seen that done. 40% decrease in triglycerides, thats
amazing as well. Weight loss of 6 to 10 pounds on average a month, thats again remarkable. 1 to
2 full points A1c, that again by one product is truly remarkable. But then to have a patient four
years now later of taking this product, off of oral drugs, still maintaining a normal blood glucose
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A1c and maintaining a 60 pound weight loss. So all of this is something that is remarkable. And
a practitioner may be wondering, as I do, as were used to talking about a pharmaceutical, well
ok, thats great for that patient type which ones are excluded from this; because theres got to be
somebody that cant take this, what are your thoughts on that?

Dr. Hart: Well actually, theres no human being over the age of four who cannot take this
product. So if you are a human being over the age of four, you can take this product, and that
means it includes pregnant women and nursing mothers. It includes people on dialysis, it
includes people on blood thinners, it includes every medical problem, every person. So if you are
a human being over the age of four, you can take this. Which means we now have a solution for
Childhood Obesity, and being over-weight, which we have never had before.

Rick Gash: That is amazing, and thats something, that gosh, I guess we should be standing
on the rooftops yelling that, because we know thats such a big problem here but I think I have
figured out why you guys are not the fattest city anymore. If youre using this as a first line
therapy, youve put a big dent in it. That is amazing, remarkable. Ok, so lets talk about these
remarkable numbers here, but something that is consistent through your patient practice, but
Unicity International, a couple of years ago, they came out with something even better than just a
product, there is a 13 week coaching program, an elite fitness program, and then again with
something that really complements that with this Prime Health pack. You could explain first of
all why they did that, and then what that program consists of.

Dr. Hart: Well, Rick, just like with any product, compliance can be the issue. And even
though the product tastes great and works well, sometimes its hard to get into a routine of using
it. And so the company helped create a program to increase compliance with the product. So they
created the Transformation Program. The Transformation Program is a complete health
transformation. It is NOT just a weight loss program. And in this program we use Unicity
Balance, which Ive just been talking about, and three other products, all of which have key
metabolic functions, and are all completely safe. One is a protein meal replacement, one is a
green tea for energy and helpful for insulin levels, they are completely safe for all people, and
the fourth product is a gentle colon cleaning fiber. And so they paired all of those world class,
clinically proven products with coaching. And so for 13 weeks in the program, your patient will
have their own personal coach on the phone every week for 13 weeks, 30 minutes every week.

During that 30 minute phone call, the coach will teach your patient one new concept in nutrition,
one new concept in fitness, and one new concept if lifestyle. Then they will create a program, a
goal for the next 7 days for your patient, revolving around those three concepts. They are not
going to tell someone they have to each a turkey sandwich at noon on Wednesdays, but they are
going to give them general nutritional concepts that they can apply to their life, no matter what
their ethic food preferences are, no matter what their fitness preferences are, no matter what their
surgery history is or their injury pattern. And so the fitness and nutrition programs are
completely tailored for that individual.

Every week then, the coach goes over with the patient their progress for the week, what they
found difficult, what they enjoyed, and then will give them new education and a new goal for the
next 7 days. So I like to think of this as thirteen 7-day programs, because anyone can be
successful doing something for 7 days, but it is extremely difficult to do something for 90 days.
So by creating these successive programs of 7 days, we have a 100% success rate. Im not
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exaggerating, we have data to prove it. We have a 100% success rate. If your patient finishes the
program, they will have results for their cholesterol, for their blood sugar, for their blood
pressure, for their weight. And if they dont, the company will give them a 100% money back
guarantee, they will get all of their money back if they participate in the program and does not
get results.

Rick Gash: Amazing as well. I mean just being able to state what youre doing here and
having this kind of results is just remarkable. Of course, the 13 week program here in the
Transformation Program with the 100% results. Doctors will be hard pressed not to want to take
a look at this, so they can get this type of results. So lets talk about some results. I do get
excited about these patient results, but Ive known you for many years and Ive seen you do a
transformation program, do you mind sharing your story and how youve done post-
transformation now?

Dr. Hart: Oh, Id be happy to. Well I did the transformation, actually I did it twice, because
I wanted to challenge myself to own up to the exercise component more, because thats not my
passion in life and the first time I went through the program, I lost 15 pounds, I lost 8 inches off
my waist, and 10 inches off my hips in 13 weeks, respectively. I went from a size 10 to a size 6.
Now that was over 2 years ago, when this program first was launched, and I have maintained that
weight loss for 2 years, and this year Ive had some personal challenges with a knee injury and
Ive been unable to exercise for quite some time, and Ive been able to maintain my weight
within 2 pounds for this entire year, not being able to exercise at all, and thats remarkable.

Rick Gash: To say the least, thats remarkable. Congratulations on maintaining the weight
loss through the problems with your knee. So lets shift gears here, Dr. Hart, before we go on to
our next guest speaker. One of the questions we get often is Ok, if I implement this in my
practice and I incorporate in what I do, what can I expect? And of course now, with the
declining reimbursements and most practitioners are looking for extra income. Most of the time
they have to go outside their skill in practice in order to generate that type of income. You came
from a practice with a large group and started your own practice in a time when most people
would think youre nuts, because of whats going on with healthcare. How has Unicity helped
you and what can practitioners expect when they get started?

Dr. Hart: Im in solo private practice, I do now have 2 PAs who work with me, but Im no
longer part of a large group. What this product has meant is that not only are my patients
healthier, but my practice is financially stable as a result. In 4 years, I have generated over a
quarter of million dollars profit by helping my patients get healthier using this product in my
practice.

Rick Gash: That is remarkable. Yes, I know youre not in a large practice. You used to be in a
group, didnt you, before you left?

Dr. Hart: I did. It was a very large group, and I took the risk to go out on my own and thats
exactly when I heard about this product and it really has literally saved my practice.

Rick Gash: So that speaks volumes to whats going on right now, cause most people are
jumping ship the other way, and going into a larger group practice for security, where you Dr.
Hart, left that security of a big practice with a group, and went out on your own. Now youve
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been able to hire mid-levels and really take on more of this mission of helping people with all of
this. Its just amazing. Again, a quarter of million dollars in four years.

I appreciate you taking the time out, I know its difficult to do that, but Im honored by having
you on the call tonight, and really am thankful for having you here. Thank you so much.

Dr. Hart: My pleasure, Rick.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Second Interview with Dr. Bo Kirkwood ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rick Gash: So lets go on here, not too far away from Dr. Hart, ironically tonight, we have
another special guest speaker from Texas, one thats been in family practice a little bit longer
than Dr. Hart and actually was solo, but in really a true family practice and he and his family
together practice medicine, Board Certified Family Practitioner, welcome to the call Dr. Bo
Kirkwood.

Dr. Kirkwood: Great being here Rick, howre you doing?

Rick Gash: Im doing great, sir. Its a privilege and an honor to have you here as well. Dr
Hart was talking about, and I know youre just as equally passionate about this product as being
around just about as long. Before we get started, would you mind giving us a little bit of your
background and how you came to find Bios Life Slim or now Unicity Balance in your practice.

Dr. Kirkwood: Well, like you said Im Board Certified in Family Practice. I actually came
back to practice in my hometown. I bought my family practitioners practice. He retired 6
months after I got in town here, Im in a little town, well not a little two, a little suburb of
Houston named Pasadena, TX. So Ive been here since July of 83 practicing medicine. My
brother, Dr. Ron Kirkwood joined me in 1990, and then Dr. Jon Kirkwood joined me 1996, and
then my son Toby joined our practice a little over two and half years ago. We all use Bios Life
Slim, we all osteopathic physicians which weve brought up in our training to look at the whole
person, to always look at things that are preventative in nature, not just treat something with a
drug or that kind of thing.

When Bios Life Slim was introduced to my practice about a little over three and a half years ago,
it was actually given to me by a patient. The patient told me about this product that was going to
cure diabetes, and of course that got my interest. I didnt believe there was anything out there
that would cure diabetes, having been taught standard medical treatments and so forth, and it
wasnt until Dr. Neal Secrist came to my office, as a I said a little over 3 and a half years ago,
and told me all about this product. It gave the product validation because at that time I believed
hed been using it for his patients like 17 years.

My first patient to try this was actually myself. I have significant Hyperlipidemia, high
Triglycerides, high Bad Cholesterol, low HDL cholesterol, my mother had had coronary disease
in her early fifties, and I had been on Statin Drugs, they worked, they got my cholesterols down
to some extent, but they caused significant Myopathy, so I had to get off of them.

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When I got on Bios Life Slim, it dropped my numbers significantly in a very short period of time
of using this product. At first, I didnt realize what I had on my hands, I thought I had something
for primarily the Lipid issue. But then I started seeing some weight loss on patients that I put on
this. And then, through Dr. Harts advice to some extent, I really started incorporating the
product for patients with Diabetes. And as Dr. Hart said, and by the way, I love listening to her,
I agree with everything she said, shes phenomenal. But this product is first line treatment now
for my Diabetic population.

Weve got a ton of new drugs that have come out in the last few years for Type 2 Diabetes, the
problem is they dont really treat the physiologic cause of Type 2 Diabetes, and they all have
potential serious side-effects. So Ive got something now in my practice that we use on daily
basis, we really use it for different things now, not just Hyper-Lipidemia, but of course the
Diabetic patient, the Obese patient, the patient that has Fatty Liver that Dr. Secrist talks about,
we see that as a primary source for getting liver enzymes down, and Im very passionate about
the product.

Theres really nothing on the market that is like this product that can treat so many different
things and treat them in a very, very safe manner. And with a product, we dont talk about this
very much, but a product that is very palatable, very tasty, not difficult to get patients to use it
when they try it, because its not difficult to use. Anyway, Ive been using the Bios Life Slim,
which is now Unicity Balance for a little over three years.

Rick Gash: Well, Dr. Kirkwood, of course the Kirkwood experience is now what Im going to
start calling that with the Kirkwood four down there, really helping people to stamp out this
problem here, and of course the best case study I suppose if I were a practitioner, the N=1 is
where you get to try this product yourself, which I imagine you wouldnt do with most of the
pharmaceuticals, but able to do this with this product, and successfully lower your numbers
without the pharmaceutical medication. And I agree with you, Dr. Hart does a phenomenal job
and I really love to have both of you on this call at the same time.

But one of the things you did bring up, that we didnt talk about with Dr. Hart much is the
palatability of this product. In my opinion it tastes like a creamy orange drink, in fact my kids
like it. But you would think that, with all of these numbers changing for the better, you would
expect it to taste terrible, or be really hard to take. And really what you said and what she said is
easy to take, it takes good, and it works tremendously well.

Another thing I want to point out what you said here again, most of the pharmaceutical agents
and especially with the onslaught of new ones that really are new in class that have different
mechanisms of action, still dont treat the physiological issue of Type 2 Diabetes, which makes
Balance the best product on the market. Its a primary source to reduce fatty liver and reduce
liver enzymes, again a huge problem, because nearly all other kinds of drugs elevate liver
enzymes. That really speaks volumes.

So, besides yourself, which is a great case study, would you like to share a case study of a patient
or somebody youre thinking about.

Dr. Kirkwood: Yeah, Ive got dozens and dozens and dozens of patients that are on this
product. Just recently, I had a young lady that Ive been having trouble with two things with her.
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Shes not an overt Diabetic, but shes had glucose intolerance and shes had fatty liver, so shes
had elevation in her liver enzymes. She came in Monday, yesterday in matter of fact, to go over
her blood work that we had done a few weeks before. I have been in practice over thirty years
Rick, so sometimes I get a little bit forgetful. And so when this particular patient came in, I saw
her numbers and I noticed they had been significantly improved. Her liver enzymes are normal,
totally, completely normal now. She has lost in the order of about 20 pounds, not a lot of weight,
but significant. Her glucose is now totally normal, before it was in that grey area in the 110-115
range, now its down in the 85 range, and you know quite frankly I had forgotten that she was on
Bios Life Slim. I actually asked her, how did you do this? She said, well its the Bios Life
Slim, which of course is now called Balance.

But that happens almost daily, where someone comes in and theyre on the product and we see
these kinds of numbers. My Diabetic patients that are on the product absolutely, 100%, have
significant improvement in the hemoglobin A1cs. In most cases, were able to get them off all
medications. In many cases, if we cant get them completely off the medications, we can at least
decrease the amount of medicines theyre taking or the volume.

Another good study was a patient of mine, who was very over-weight and whose hemoglobin
A1cs I could never get below 10 points. I wont give you his full name, but his first name is
Daniel. Daniel has come in to see me repeatedly, he has a Diabetic Foot. He goes and sees a
wound care specialist. And whereas he was on maximum dose of Lantus Insulin, he was taking
regular Insulin before each meal, he was on Metformin, he was on other pharmaceutical drugs.
Now weve got him on a half a dose of Lantus, hes on no other oral agents, and his Hemoglobin
A1cs now run in the low sixes, and hes also lost now about 40 pounds.

My wife and I both use the product for Hyperlipidemia. My wife is on absolutely no medications
for her Triglycerides and Cholesterol and theyre the best theyve ever been in her life. I mean,
when you look at her numbers, you would think this is a 16 year old girl. I wont give her age
away, but consider the age that she is. And I got my numbers back, and of course my
Triglycerides and Cholesterols have all done very well on this product. But something happened
this last time Rick. This is the first time this has ever happened to me. My LDL Cholesterol is
now LOWER than my HDL Cholesterol. If youre not a physician out there, you may not
understand the significance of that, but believe me, you dont see that very often. And there is
two reasons for that. Number one, Balance has lowered my LDL Cholesterol, but number two,
its raised my HDL Cholesterol. When you do both of those, and you get kind of a flip-flop
effect, thats a tremendous thing to do. We see patients like that from time to time. But you
almost never see that unless theyre using this Balance product.

Rick Gash: Well Dr. Kirkwood, first of all, congratulations, especially with the latest
announcement on the LDL lowering data. To have an LDL lower than your HDL, youve got a
really high HDL or a really low LDL or a great combination of that, which it turns out thats
what you have a great combination of that, so congratulations. And of course you and your wife
both just look wonderful, every time I see you guys, you look so young, but being in practice for
30 years, I mean obviously you are off the hook and expected to forget somethings that patients
are taking over time. I gotta laugh, and Im sure practitioners listening to this are laughing too,
because I know all of you have multiple thousands of patients youre seeing over the years, but
you and Dr. Hart both have over a thousand patients taking this product, so of course well
forgive you in forgetting that a patient is on the product. But the great news is that they came
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back, and youre wondering how they did it, and of course you knew that this product would do
it, and thats why you put them on it, so thats really great to hear.

Weve come to the end of this call, but Id like to go back over what you said, because its so
important. Dropping their A1c from a 10 to a 6, losing 40 pounds, on half a dose of their Insulin
they were on, and on no Oral Drugs for Diabetes, thats huge. Liver enzymes becoming normal
in your glucose intolerant patient, and normal blood sugars. These are all things that you guys
see each week, but have to be reiterated because of new people listening to it. Its just exciting
to be part of that, and its really my honor and privilege to able to hear these answers. Thank you
for sharing that information.

Dr. Kirkwood: I was just want to make another comment too. Sometimes people get
caught up in the cost of the product, but when you take people off two, or three, or four drugs,
the cost of the product makes up for that. Because unfortunately, most insurance carriers dont
cover this product. They should, and I think its a crime that Medicare and most insurance
companies dont cover the cost of this product, especially when its such an effective treatment,
and it is a treatment for so many things.

Just as an example, one of the latest drugs out there is now an injectable called Bydureon, and I
was asking the representative the other day, well, how much does this product cost? He says,
Well insurances will pay for it. I said Well you know somebodys paying for the drug,
whether its the patient or the insurance, somebodys paying for the drug. I said, Lets just say
I had a cash patient who needs your product, on a monthly basis what would your bill be? He
said, Oh, its over $400 a month for this product. Thats $400 a month for a product thats not
nearly half as effective as our product, and not nearly as safe, and has the added problem of
having to be an injectable, which is a painful thing. So anyway, I think we need to stress that
some people look at the cost of Balance and say thats a little pricey since my insurance doesnt
cover it. I try to show them, number one, youre going to be better off health wise, but number
two, you are going to save money. You will save money on this product with a lower grocery bill
and better health. You have to sometimes get patients to buy into that, but when they realize that
yes Im paying out of pocket now, but Im going to save some money down the line, not to
mention, improve my health, then its worth it.

Rick Gash: Well Dr. Kirkwood, you and Dr. Hart were talking about the necessity of taking
this product. Its not just a this will make you feel good or make you a little better kind of
product, but this is really first line therapy. So here is my final question. How do you incorporate
this into your practice and what can a practitioner expect in the way of revenue as they get this
going. Youve kind of answered that, how you would set a patient up here with getting their buy
in on that, but pulling that forward just a little bit further. How do you get this incorporated into
your practice, what would you suggest to one of your peers, and what could they expect.

Dr. Kirkwood: Like Dr. Hart, I give the patients an option of how they want to be treated. If
theyre newly diagnosed Diabetic, or even if theyre someone coming in and Ive known them
for a long time, I always give them the option.

But, first of all, Ive got some pamphlets on the counter tops in each room, plus Ive got some
little posters in each room that show them theres a natural way to deal with weight problems and
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Obesity and with glucose problems and Diabetes. But then I introduce the products to them and
give them the option of using the product. They buy the first box of Balance from my office.

I was going to mention earlier that a lot of my patients are on the Patient Auto-Refill plan, which
one of the reasons I can be forgiven not remembering when a patient is on Balance. On the auto-
refill or preferred customer plan, they order the product and its shipped to them, and I dont
keep up with that, I just get the money deposited in my account. But, some of my patients just
pick up a box of Balance here in the office. I keep plenty of the product on hand. They pay us
and we get the retail profit in the office.

You know, any physician can use Balance on their patients, no matter what specialty theyre in.
Family doctor, an Internal Medicine doctor, an OB/GYN, whoever wants to use this product to
help their patients. How much they make depends on how many patients they have and how
much they recommend it to them. They can do very well. I mean, even if they have a small
patient load, an extra $3,000 to $4,000 a month is very easy to do with this product. And you can
do better if you recommend it to other physicians. In a meeting I went to 3 nights ago, someone
I had introduced this product to about 6 months ago, came up to me and said I havent heard
back from you, Im ready to get started. It happens naturally, when youre just discussing how
you treat your patients and other physicians find out what kind of great results you have. Its also
fun to help other doctors make more money in their practices.

This Balance product has actually made the practice of medicine fun. It generates a little extra
income and it helps a lot of my patients getting healthier than they ever could otherwise. Ill
never get rich doing this, but it does help to have that extra income coming in as we get kinda
squeezed on both sides it seems like in the insurance and Medicare reimbursements these days.

Rick Gash: Well, an exciting story, Dr. Kirkwood. And of course, fascinating as the
opportunity and the possibilities here of an independent practice making $3,000 to $4,000 a
month as a minimum. Its really something that could potentially keep the doors open, or pay the
payroll when times are tough. Really, it is impressive the amount of your own patients that you
have on these products and Im sure you make a lot more than the minimum stated. Thank you
so much for being on this call tonight and sharing your story and carving that time out for us.

Dr. Kirkwood: Thank you, Rick.

Rick Gash: So as we close this call, I want to draw attention to what both physicians talked
about. They are using Balance as first line therapy with Diabetes and Obesity. And of course,
with Cardiovascular disease, Balance has really impacted the numbers of their hyper-lipidemia
patients. Plus they are using it to treat other things like Fatty Liver and High Blood Pressure.
With the information shared here tonight, there shouldnt be anybody thats not ready to get
started with helping their patients to get healthier.

I want to thank everyone who is on this call tonight, especially our first time listeners. I hope
you all took great notes. But if you still have questions, get with the person who shared this call
with you. There are answers. Those clinic studies and the results shared tonight are not just
made up, theyre real. So Id like to graciously end this call for this Tuesday night, prevention
equals wellness health care provider call. Thanks everybody, have a great night. Well see you
next week.
Healthcare Provider Call with Dr. Neal Secrist
October 1, 2013


Rick Gash: So let's start with our first guest speaker, no stranger to the call, someone that
has been very, very instrumental in presenting prevention across our Nation and across the
globe as I've been fortunate to travel with him. An International speaker in the world of
prevention in cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and obesity. Welcome to the call Dr. Neal
Secrist.

Dr. Secrist: Rick, thank you very much for having me.

Rick Gash: It's a pleasure having you sir. Giving us your background would be great, and
then we'll get into talking about Bios Life Slim which is now called Unicity Balance.

Dr. Secrist: Yes, sure will. I finished my first post-graduate training at Ellis U. School of
Medicine, then went to the School of Aerospace Medicine and served 2 tours of duty as a flight
surgeon for the United States Air Force and did emergency medicine during that time and
having been doing that now for the past 20 years. I got a letter in the mail from my medical
school lately that was a little bit humbling, and they said please come back to homecoming and
congratulations on your 25th anniversary from graduating from med school. So I guess I've
been practicing longer than I thought I have. I underwent board re-certification just this past
year and so I'm about as fresh and re-upped academically as possible right now.

Rick Gash: Wow, 25 years, congratulations. And knowing you for the last 8 of those, I guess
that makes you seasoned here in discussing what we're going to be talking about, and it's a
pleasure having you here. Can you give us a little bit of background about Unicity and your
walk with them over the last 20 years.

Dr. Secrist: Yeah, and it has been almost 20 years using some version of the formula itself.
At first, of course, I found it to help with the patients that I was flying with in my active duty
squadron. And now they're in version 5, but the formulation has remained the same over the last
couple of years, although it's undergone a face lift, now called Unicity Balance. But the
standard Bios Life formulation has continued to be proven over and over again. The results are
reproducible, and they're very effective in balancing out both glucose and cholesterol, and when
I say balancing out, studies support reductions in LDL, increases in HDL that rival and exceed
that performed by the statin medications, without a side-effect whatsoever. Certainly being
about to use this in the field of insulin resistance to help people shed visceral abdominal fat,
which is the underlying mechanism for these insulin resistance and endothial dysfunction kind
of states, pre-diabetes in the other words, as well as full-blown diabetes. These formulations are
THE best answer that we have available today in the physician medical marketplace that focus
on treating and healing the causes rather than just taking care of the symptomatologies of the
elevated cholesterol and the elevated blood sugar. The company has a root in the Rexall drug
stores that we've known for decades, especially those of us who are old enough to know that
name. And the science and the efficacy are second to none. So the formulations have been
found for the past, really over a decade, 10-12 years in the Physician's Desk Reference. We're
speaking about pharmaceutical grade formulations that don't have pharmaceutical side-effects.
They give us the tools as physicians that we've not had for years in our practice, the tools to
effectively combat the underlying issues, and the tools to effectively address life style changes
that last and that work long term, all the while along simultaneously taking of the disease state
itself, Rick. So it's a real home-run, and it's no wonder so many medical professionals are
attracted to what Unicity is doing because the thing just works.

Rick Gash: Well Dr. Secrist, the benefits that you mentioned right now, like you were
saying, outweighs the pharmaceutical drugs, but really mechanistically you would take multiple
drugs to be able to do what this one product does, and of course it does it without the side-
effects that those many do. And you mentioned something here, is many health-care providers
are attracted to this, obviously because of the patient population that is ailing from metabolic
syndrome, being overweight, cardiovascular disease, so on and so forth. It was so much
impressive that physicians across the nation, across the globe, have come together, and doing
so, you were actually the author of a well known "Doctors Speak Out" that has gone in
circulation around the world, here in a forum where you brought health-care providers together,
and they came from every walk of health-care and discussing the benefits of this. Could you
sum that up for us as you are the author of that, and you got to meet so many of these, what
they found as a response to Bios Life in their practice?

Dr. Secrist: Well there's about 27 co-authors alongside of me, all of which are physicians,
and the vast majority of which have more letters after their name than I do. They recount their
credentials, their training, as well as their results that they're seeing, 1 or 2 case studies that
have impressed them in their practice using the Bios Life formulations, whether it be for heart
disease, diabetes, cholesterol, what have you. So that's really what that's all about. And really
that has given us a platform to attract so many other people, realizing these things really do
have strong efficacy, and they give us results. I mean I can come up with plenty of stories of
specific patients in our practice that have done miraculously well on diet and lifestyle changes
so much so that we're trimming down and in many cases eliminating a lot of, and in some cases
all of the medications that they once needed, because they no longer need them anymore. We've
been actively enrolling people in the Prime Challenge which is a new rollout, a very elite, yet
affordable version of the Transformation program. And I put 2 more patients on the books
today who want to do that, and they simply use the formulations for the 90 day period and they
the results that they're after, and we're trimming down their medications. Maybe that's a little...
to have something that works so well is a breath of fresh air, especially in medicine today.

Rick Gash: Well that's a great background actually, Dr. Secrist, and really the meat of what
we're looking for on this call is exactly what you're talking about; the patient outcomes, how
much better they are with this product. And you spoke of lifestyle changes, long-term lifestyle
changes, and in this Prime Challenge, this 90 program you're discussing, of course, taking from
the Transformation program, which was a coaching program which still is there and is the elite
Prime Challenge, could you explain to us a little bit of what a patient can expect in enrolling in
this 90 day challenge, and what you've seen in your patient population.

Dr. Secrist: Yeah, the key thing, I still always recommend, first and foremost, the
transformation program because what they do is give them all the formulations they need for
the entire 3 months, 13 weeks, to effectively improve their numbers, and give them the success
they want. And they assign them their own coach, and the coach will call them, they'll
customize a program specifically for that person or patient. Doesn't matter whether they're 18 or
85, and yes I have patients at both ends of those spectrums, and many in between, that allows
them to create a program that's specific for their lifestyle, specific for their nutrional needs,
specifically for their exercise capabilities, wants or need, and that help them with accountability
and encouragement and support. Basically, the results now are showing at about 99%. So
there's no program I've ever seen in 20 years, now 25 years of practicing medicine, that
effectively delivers that, whose results last long term, meaning that's measured in more than a
few to several months; it's measured in years. So that's the transformation program. A recent
smaller offering of that, a very elite yet affordable option of that, doesn't allow to have coach
but allows you to have the formulations to have the success, so in that there is the Balance, the
Unicity Complete that really is a breakfast, especially for many of those who skip, a Matcha,
effectiveness of that is really strong for energy and mental focus, and then there's recently a
Cleanse product that's been released as well to help prepare the GI tract for optimal nutrient
absorption, cleansing out toxins and parasites and things that may have accumulated in the
person's system based on travel and exposure and things like that. So that 90 program is simple,
very affordable enrollement that can be done, and they get their stuff, they get off and running,
and they log onto MyPrimeChallenge.com to enter their numbers and connect with someone
else that's doing it. And for me, I'm doing it myself because I want to enroll and asking my
patients to do something that I'm doing, so I've been doing it and I share with them my results,
which by the way, the first month is now complete and behind me, I'm down 5 pounds, I'm
down an inch off of my waist, and I'm down 3 additional percent body fat during that period of
time. And for those of you that know me, you know I'm not really all that big of a guy and so to
have that kind of result in the first month is a little bit eye catching, and so I plan on going
'cause I have some very specific goals, and I think I'm healthier now in my fifties than I've been
in my forties and thirties, all because of the program and the formulations working so well for
me. This is designed for anyone who wants to do it. Whether you're a health-care professional
or not, this is a great tool for your practice, to finally address the issues that no other program
out there has been able to effectively deal with. And now we can focus again on the healing part
of the medicine to reduce people's need for the medication burden they have. And to make them
happier, healthier, and more productive. It just works.

Rick Gash: Well Dr. Secrist, I was gonna ask if you have a case study, but it sounds like
you've just given us one, that N=1 as you like to say. 5 pounds, 1 inch off in the waist, and 3%
body fat off a frame that really wasn't in much need of reduction at all. And so you've done that
in a month time, congratulations. And I know, just being as a personal friend, I've got some
catching up to do. So the good thing about this program is that it is for anybody as you
mentioned. Let's me ask you a question here, let's change gears just a little bit, you mentioned
implementing this into practice. And of course right now we know things are up in the air with
the government shutting down today, and all kinds of things with the health-care markets right
now, reimbursement being one of those, as they're in a declining state. How do see this fitting
into practice in the reimbursement side of the finances side of the business.

Dr. Secrist: Well it's very simple. They can use FlexSpend, HSA, or MSA funds to do this,
or they just pay cash. Basically, when you add up the savings that occur by people's desires to,
they lose their desire to snack because of the formulations working so well, it comes out to
really only $3 a day. There's very few people who cannot spend $3 a day, and that includes
breakfast by the way, that includes a whole meal. So you're spending $3 a day for a meal and
results, very, very affordable. Just doesn't get much more affordable than that. And often times
because people reduce their medication burden, they're actually gonna make money. There's
actually an affiliate program, where as people do it, and they want to refer other people, then
the company has created a way in which people can get their formulations for free by simply
referring 3 other individuals to do the same alongside of whoever's going through it so it's self-
funding. It pays for itself, so it's not what it costs you, it's what it costs you to not do it. And you
get a chance to help people and be rewarded for it, and that's what I'm telling other people
about. And I simply send them to www.pgdsystem.com, I write it on a post-it note or my
letterhead or prescription pad, give it to the patient, tell them to go home and watch the videos,
and then call me on step 4 if they want to enroll. I invite them to do it with me because I'm
doing it. And if they want to get their stuff for free, watch step 5. And that simple little sound
bite works really well in the exam room, or with anybody I talk to as a patient, and they get it
done, and I get calls back and they say "We want to do this", so I help them enroll. And I just
do it oftentimes after hours, or they just fill out a piece of paper and bring it to my office. It's
really simple, and it works great in this day and age of decreasing reimbursements so it will
actually help the patient to fund itself, and help your practice grow financially as well.

Rick Gash: Dr. Secrist, pleasure having you on this call, and explaining not only the results
that you had experience with, but also that of many patients, and I think that we've talked about
this over thousands of patients that you've helped over this 20 years, with this product alone. So
it's been a pleasure having you here, and as you leave, I would like for you to, if you wouldn't
mind, share with your peers what would be their next action step to take to get started
implementing this in their practice.

Dr. Secrist: Well I don't see why there's any reason they just can't simply go to
pgdsystem.com themselves and find out exactly what I'm talking about by looking at that. And
the person that invited them onto this call can give them the further details of what it takes to
get rolling, get started, and personally benefit from this. I mean let's face it, us health-care
providers don't necessarily, you know aren't in the pristine prime of our own lives, so this gives
us a way to do that, and then share it with the patients that we care about. So that's I'd do, just
get back with the person and check out the websites, and let's get going.

Rick Gash: Alrighty, well thank you so much for being on the call tonight Dr. Secrist, a
pleasure having you.

Dr. Secrist: Thank you.

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