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Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Why Make Your Own Cost 40 gph modular: Spectra $16K SK $12K Aqua Marine kit $6K Cruise RO kit $5.3K DIY $2-4K Engineering efficiency Familiarity with system & repair Cost of proprietary spares Fun project
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Outline Layout Engineering Components Parts List Operation Maintenance
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Simplified Watermaking Diagram Clean Salt Water High Pressure Pump Reverse Osmosis Membranes Brine (overboard) Fresh Water (tanks) Boost Pump Not shown: Filters, gauges, recirculation paths Clean Salt Water High Pressure Pump Reverse Osmosis Membranes Fresh Water (tanks) Boost Pump Not shown: Filters, gauges, recirculation paths
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Layout Feed Feed- External screen Seacock Strainer SW Manifold Boost pump Filters LP gauge HP pump Relief valve Snubber Fresh Water Flush Filter/valves
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Layout Brine and Product Brine- Membrane tubes Membranes HP gauge HP control valve HP bypass valve Flow meter 3 way valve Overboard/Clean Product Flow meter 3 way valve Tank/Test Layup/Cleaning 5 gal bucket
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Engineering KISS No electronics!! Terms: Feed (gpm) = Brine (gpm) + Product (gph) Safe Membrane Flow: Each 2.5 x 40 membrane = 21 gph max product Two membranes = ~40 gph max product Need 3-4 gpm flow across membranes for scouring Hose sizes- Feed - LP , HP 3/8 Brine 3/8 HP, LP Product - 3/8 LP Maintain hose ID/flow thru fittings
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell High Pressure Side Engineering System Pressures: Max 1000 psi relief valve Operating max 850 psi control valve Pump for 40 gpm system: Type Triplex high pressure pump by Cat, Hypro, Giant, others Head material bronze, stainless steel or titanium Rated flow rate - 4-5 gpm End fittings: Best - reusable screw on, also crimp Stainless steel or bronze
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Low Pressure Side Engineering Low Pressure Feed System: Maintain positive head pressure on HP pump Operating feed pressure ~2-20 psi Feed flow min .5 gpm more than HP Boost Pump: DC preferred, AC option Jabsco Water Puppy or similar Mount below waterline Use deep dedicated seacock Fittings: Quality plastic w/ hose clamps
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Engineering Basics Makes more product in warm salt water, less in cold water World health standard is 500 ppm salts, >> clean membranes when 450 ppm Need to be able to sample both product and brine water discharges Bigger HP pumps need about 2 HP Drive options are main engine or 120 v generator, not 12 v
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Major Components External screen Seacock Strainer Salt water LP manifold Boost pump Filters LP gauge HP pump Relief valve Snubber Membrane pressure vessels Membranes HP manifold Pressure control valve Bypass valve HP gauge Brine flow meter Brine 3 way valve Product flow meter Product 3 way valve LP hose, fittings HP hose, fittings
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell External Screen Better than internal basket strainer Removable heavy screen for inspection, cleaning Screens out all grass, jellyfish, etc Size to cover 1 or 2 thru hulls All bronze ~$100-200, Lewis Marine
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Seacock Allows positive raw water shut off 3/4 ID minimum Bronze or Marelon turn ball valve Deep mounted ~$60, marine stores
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Strainer Protects system from large contaminants Clear plastic 3/4" plastic fittings Easily accessible SS screen ~$35, marine stores
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Salt Water Low Pressure Manifold Allows multiple taps from one seacock 1/2" PVC Schedule 40 pipe, fittings and valves In - salt water, fresh water flush Out water maker feed, refrig, deck wash, etc Shut off valve, bleed valve ~$25, hardware stores
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Boost Pump Provides positive head on high pressure pump Flexible impeller (self priming), centrifugal Does not need to be continuous use Jabsco Water Puppy #18660, 18610 or equivalent 12/120 volt, ~6 GPM FNPT fittings ~$50 used, $120 new (Amazon) or Depco Pump
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Fresh Water Flush Filter For fresh water flushing system after every use, removes chlorine Housing- standard household, OPAQUE not clear, fittings Element- heavy charcoal brick, not basic charcoal Valve on each side and safety check valve before manifold Housing ~$30 Charcoal element ~$5-15 Ebay
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Filters For duplex system filtration to 5 microns Housings 2 ea, standard household, clear, 3/4" fittings Elements 1 ea 20 & 5 micron Can clean 2 times before replacing Housings ~$25 Elements - $2-12 Source polypropylene-- NOT paper or string wound elements on internet/eBay
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell LP gauge Measures LP feed pressure and allows monitoring of filter condition All SS case/fittings Oil filled -30 to +70 PSI bottom fitting ~$60, McMaster Carr
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell HP Pump Raises system pressure to HP Need SS mount, clutch? HP pump for 40 gph system Type HP triplex plunger Mfg - Hypro, Cat, Giant, etc Head bronze, SS or titanium Bronze head ~1000 hr life = 50hrs/yr X 20 years@40gph Flow rate - 4-5 GPM Cost Bronze ~$350-800 SS/Titanium ~$1500 Source on internet
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Relief/Pop Off Valve Relieves pressure in case of system blockage at ~1000 psi Cat Pumps nr 33960 or equal Adjust to 1000 PSI 3/8 MNPT fitting ~$30-70, Cat Pump dealer
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Pulsation Dampener Dampens pulsations from HP pump How it works: Air in the snubber smoothes downstream vibration /chafe in HP hose Hypro 3375-0017-2 ($100) or 36 X 3/8 ID HP hose blocked off at one end 3/8 MNPT fitting to pump ~$20-80, Hypro or hose dealer
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Membrane Pressure Vessels Hold 2.5 X 40 membranes 2 ea, fiberglass tubes with stainless end caps or equal Mount securely to bulkhead ~$25 used (shop carefully!) ~$250 new Aqua Marine CruiseROWater.com sells as a kit with matching membranes
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Membranes Separate product from brine under HP pressure 2 ea, FilmTec SW30-2540 $200-$500 new, eBay (shop carefully), CruiseRO Note flow variance with temperature ~1 year shelf life, 5-10+ year life installed
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell HP Manifold
Mounting for HP control valves and gauge All 1/4 SS fittings SS 316 vs 304 Issue HP 150 psi test fittings? Available fm McMaster Carr & elsewhere $5-$10 each fitting
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Pressure Control Valve Allows for precise brine pressure & volume regulation Dragon, 316 SS, 6000 PSI or equal 1/4 FNPT fittings ~$40-75, Dragon/Ebay
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Bypass Valve Allows quick bypass of pressure control valve in case of blockage Use during flushing and cleaning All SS, quarter turn, 1000 PSI minimum SWP 1/4 FNPT fittings ~$30-40, McMaster Carr
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell HP gauge Indicates HP brine pressure and filter condition All SS case/fittings Oil filled 0-~1400 PSI NPT bottom fitting ~$70, McMaster Carr
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Brine Flow Meter Indicates brine flow in gpm Dwyer VFB-86-SS or equal All SS fittings 0-5.0 gpm scale fittings on back ~$70, Dwyer
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Brine 3 Way Valve Allows switching brine discharge between overboard and recirc. Grey plastic 1/2" FNPT fittings Available from most watermaker stores ~$40 new ~$10 used Wmaker stores, eBay
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Product Flow Meter Indicates product flow and membrane condition Dwyer VFB-81-SS or equal All SS fittings 6-60 gph scale 1/8 fittings on back ~$70, Dwyer
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Product 3 Way Valve Allows switching product discharge between test and tank Grey plastic 1/2" FNPT fittings Available from most watermaker stores ~$40 new ~$10 used Wmaker stores, eBay
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell LP Hose, Fittings Used in LP feed, brine and product sections of system Feed & brine - 3/4" & 1/2" clear reinforced hose Product - 3/8 opaque plastic hose Plastic fittings to suit Maintain hose ID thru fittings Available at most hardware stores
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell HP Hose, Fittings Used between HP pump, membranes and HP manifold 3/8" ID, 2000 psi or better Reinforced drinking water hose w/ PFTE inner liner 316 SS or bronze replaceable fittings to match, crimp on? Carry spare hose & fittings Hose ~$8/ft, Parker, others? Fittings ~$100 ea VMarine, $20-50 ea, McMaster Carr?
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Major Parts List 1 HP Plunger Pump Hypro 2345B-P, 4.8 GPM, 1/2 & 3/8 NPT fitts Mount for HP Pump - Custom SS to fit engine Size pulley to run pump at about 1700 RPM Adjustable Pop Off Relief Valve Cat Pumps nr 33960, 1000 PSI, 3/8 NPT fitt Snubber 36 3/8 HP hose, 3/8 MNPT fitting Boost Pump - Jabsco Water Puppy 18660, 12 Volt, 6 GPM, FNPT fittings Pressure Vessels - 2 ea, Codeline 25M100, 40 Membranes - 2 ea, Filmtec SW30-2540 Filter Housings - 3 ea, 2 clear & 1 opaque, 3/4" fitts
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Major Parts List 2 Water Filter Elements non paper, 1 ea 20 micron, 5 micron, charcoal brick, spares Flow Meters - Dwyer, clear plastic & all 316 SS fittings; Brine VFB-86-SS, 0-5 gpm, fittings Product VFB-81-SS 6-60 gph, 1/8 fittings Pressure Gauges - all 316 SS case & fitts, oil filled, HP 0-~1400 PSI LP ~-30 to ~+70 PSI, fittings HP Manifold -1/4 NPT 316 SS fittings Regulating Valve - Dragon, 316 SS, 6000 PSI, 1/4 NPT fitts Bypass Valve - quarter turn, 316 SS, 1000 PSI, 1/4 NPT fitts 3 Way Valves 2 ea, grey plastic, 1/2" NPT fitts
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Major Parts List 3 Hose and Fittings- HP - 3/8" ID hose, 316 SS/bronze replaceable fittings to suit LP - 3/8", 1/2" and 3/4" ID hose, plastic fittings to suit Strainer clear plastic, SS screen, 3/4" fittings Seacock 3/4 bronze turn ball valve Salt Water Manifold - 1/2" sked 40 PVC pipe, fittings and valves Mounts - misc sizes of 3/4" varnished wood to suit, grey plastic pipe hangars Salinity Test Meter - Hanna TDS 1 (hand-held) Electronic Tachometer - Neiko Digital Tach
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Good Parts Sources DepcoPump.com huge pump and parts inventory McMaster.com Web based, huge parts inventory HyproPump.net least expensive triplex bronze pumps CruiseROWaterandPower.com kit water makers, parts AquaMarineInc.net kit water makers, parts SeaTechMarineProducts.com water makers VillageMarine.com water makers, parts SKWatermakers.com water makers, parts CatPumps.com water maker pumps EchoTecWatermakers.com water makers Home Depot, Ace, etc plumbing parts, mounts More Links: svsoggypaws.com/workshop_links.htm
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Operation Startup Making water Shut down Fresh Water flushing
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell System Operating Record Columns for: Date Run time Hrs Engine RPM HP pressure PSI LP pressure PSI Brine flow GPH Product flow GPM Product quality PPM Notes
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Start Up Basics Ensure clear salt water with no petroleum or soaps Open all salt water & control/bypass valves Route brine overboard, product to test into bucket Start boost pump FIRST, then HP pump Close bypass then slowly bring pressure up in 100 psi increments with control valve Let bubbles settle out in brine sight glass between increments Adjust pressure for 40 gph product flow Take first round of system readings When PPM is below 500 switch product to tank
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Making Water Basics Monitor system flow and pressures Take readings at least every half hour Maintain constant engine speed Adjust control valve as necessary for 40 gph product flow Watch for leaks Watch tank fills and vents to see when full
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Shut Down Basics When tanks are full, divert product to test bucket w/ product 3 way valve Take final set of system readings Reduce system pressure slowly to zero with pressure control valve Secure engine and then boost pump Perform fresh water flush
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Fresh Water Flush Basics Secure SW seacock and manifold inlet valves Open all HP valves, brine 3 way to overboard, product 3 way to test Route FW from boats pressure FW system through charcoal filter to flush system Flush all SW out of system with only boost pump and/or boats FW pump Taste test brine until fresh Close off system with HP & SW manifold and brine 3 way valves Leave product 3 way valve on test Shut off fresh water flush system
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Layup with Preservative (SMB) Flush system with Fresh Water Use Sodium Meta Bisulfate,1 oz SMB per 1 gallon of FW, multiple sources 5 oz SMB for 3 gallon system plus 2 gals of water in 5 gallon bucket Place cleaning hose and brine discharge into 5 gallon bucket Circulate preservative for about 10 mins w/ boost pump Connect brine and cleaning hoses for closed loop Circulate SMB every two weeks for 5-10 minutes if layup for more than two months
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Cleaning Clean membranes only if absolutely necessary, product greater than ~450 ppm salts Algae cleaner removes biological contamination Scale cleaner removes mineral contamination Follow cleaner instructions Use layup closed loop system with bucket
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Cleaning Filters Remove elements from housings Block off one end of element and: flush with F/SW hose from inside out or forcefully dunk in liter container with water or tow behind dinghy/boat for ~10 mins Reverse ends and repeat Inspect for cleanliness and reinstall After second cleaning, discard elements and install new
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Changing Membranes Ensure system pressure at 0 psi Remove upstream end cap of pressure vessel Carefully extract old membrane observing orientation of cupped orings, discard Read any new membrane instructions carefully Inspect soft parts for damage/contamination, very lightly coat with glycerin or silicone grease Push membrane carefully into upstream end of pressure vessel observing proper orientation of cup orings Reseat pressure vessel end caps and hose fitts
Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Leaks & Contaminants Inspect system for leaks during each run Tightly secure HP hose for vibration using chafe protection where necessary Use thread seal on all fittings and tighten securely Avoid ANY petroleum or chlorine contamination into system In general, do not make water in commercial or crowded harbors
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Copyright 2011 Dave McCampbell Acronyms and Terms Used AC Alternating Current (120v) Brine The waste Salt Water output by the membranes DC Direct Current (12v) DIY Do It Yourself DWL Designed Water Line FW Fresh Water FNPT Female National Pipe Thread Gpm Gallons per minute Gph Gallons per hour HP High Pressure LP Low Pressure NPT National Pipe Thread PPM Parts Per Million (measure of how much salt is in the product water) Product The Fresh Water output by the membranes PSI Pounds per square inch (a measure of pressure) SMB Sodium Metabisulfate (storage preservative for membranes) SS Stainless Steel SW Salt Water