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Father and Son Definitions:
Definition of Key Terms (a discussion between me and a Christian):
1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam?
(see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?
3- Jesus had to at least match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power. See this
text-debate between me and a Christian brother.
4- Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus? Yes it does.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2]
[3])."

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Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will with ample verses.

In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:
(a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like
unto anyone or anything.
(b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings
that were made by the Word and the Spirit.
(c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water
physical world and Universes (plural).
Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?


"Father" and "Son" in Islam and the Bible:
5- Is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are
some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON":
(a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian
():
See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say
, which means "The Legal Guardian". is derived
from the root word . also means a chosen friend to
Allah Almighty, as in the following point.
(b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (,
and ):
We further read the following in the Bible:
Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your
people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your
friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and
it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's
friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD
Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy
Quran:
[002:257] Allah is the friend () and patron of those who believe.
He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those
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who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead
them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be
the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart
(and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and
Protector ()? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their
trust!
[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his
whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true
in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend ().
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is
clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious
Quran uses for these words and definitions:
http://www.answering-
christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203

(c)- BEGET = CHOSE:
Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:
King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me,
Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32,
38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:
[027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He
has chosen (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the
false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59
[003:033] God did choose Adam and Noah, the family of
Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33
[003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee
and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all
nations.
3:42

[007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee above


(other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have
spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of
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those who give thanks."
7:144

[022:075] God chooses messengers from angels and from men
for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75
[035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our
Servants as We have chosen : but there are among them some
who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and
some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the
highest Grace.
35:32

[038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect
and the Good.
38:47
[039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could
have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth
create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the
One, the Irresistible.
39:4

Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come,
he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one
knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD
Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an
ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:
1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the
husband and the father).
2- Wali - Guardian.
In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-
equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD
Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such
as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually
married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-
adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like
these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record
straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise,
why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons
and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD
Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty,
period!):
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[005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God,
and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins?
Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom
He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God
belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is
between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
Again, please visit: http://www.answering-
christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203.

6- Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1] [2]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic
plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews
such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself
pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do
call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See
the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic
Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original
Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect,
which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original
and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence
Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the
following links:

(Click to play videos)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

After you finish reading this article, please visit: The original Bible was lost! See comments from the
commentary of the NIV Bible (one of the most used Bibles world wide) itself admitting that most of
the Books and Gospels of the Bible are corrupted. No one ever claimed ownership of the current
Books and Gospels. The owners/writers are unknown.

The following articles are important to read:
The "God" title in the Bible was given to others in the OT and NT. Answering Isaiah 9:6. The "El" (God)
title that was given to Jesus in the Old Testament, and the "HOTHEOS" (God) title in the New Testament, were
given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible. The only UNIQUE title that exists in the Bible is
"Yahweh", which means "The Eternal".
The absolute Oneness of GOD Almighty in the Bible's Old Testament.
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Texts referring to GOD as "One, Alone, None Other, None Else".
"Son of God" means "Servant of God" in Hebrew. Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity.
Do People and Angels bowing down to Jesus in Worship really prove that he is the Creator of the Universe?
See how the word "Worship" used for Jesus doesn't even exist in the original Greek Bibles. The Trinitarian
English translations are nothing but hoaxes and deceptions. The article responds to Matthew 15:9 and other
English mistranslated verses in the Bible.
Answering John 1:1.
For detailed refutation to the rest of trinity lie, please visit my ANSWERING TRINITY
section.
****** Obvious mistranslations of the Hebrew Manuscripts. See proofs of alterations
and deceptions done by the Jews and Christians to disprove Islam in the Bible.

What does the Bible say about Jesus? (Answering Trinity and Isaiah
9:6 in particular)
Note: Please see my further responses to Trinity at the bottom of this page. Also, below, you will see
my response to the entire verse of Isaiah 9:6, which Trinitarians use heavily to prove that Jesus is the
Creator of the Universe.
****Please pay close attention to the section where I responded to the "God" title given to Jesus in
Isaiah 9:6, which I proved that it was also given to others before and after him as well in the Bible.
Most Christians today claim that God Almighty came down to earth in a form of a human being and
died for our sins to forgive all of us. This is a belief that I struggled with for 3 years of my life. I was
between Christianity and Islam not knowing which religion is the right one. I knew that both can not
be true. One of them had to be false. You may visit The purpose of this site to learn more about my
testimony and why I decided to create this web site.
An exaggerating expression in the Bible: The Bible contains many verses in it that contain irrational
statements. For instance we read in Matthew 21:21 " Jesus replied, 'I tell you the truth, if you have
faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this
mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive
whatever you ask for in prayer.'" I challenge any "faithful" believing Christian to move one brick, not a
mountain with his sight or words. Have any Christian from the time of Jesus till now been able to do
it?
Another exaggerating expression is in Mark 16:17-18 "And these signs will accompany those who
believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up
snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place
their hands on sick people, and they will get well." Again, I challenge any Christian to allow himself
to get bit by a poisonous rattle snake or cobra and survive its venom.
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Does this mean no "Christian" is a real Christian? Did Jesus say that no one will ever be a believer,
since they can't lift mountains with their eye sights nor survive deadly poisons?
Does the Bible contain exaggerating expressions in it? and if so, then how can you take the
"Trinitarian" verses so literal then? They too are nothing but exaggerations (as I proved below in this
article) that do not prove that Jesus is the Creator of this Universe.
Isaiah 9:6. "For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely
rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty
God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
The word "God" was used numerous times throughout the Bible to show someone's special authority
throughout the Old Testament. But the GOD of the Bible is One GOD; see verses Genesis 18:14,
Exodus 5:2, 6:3, 15:3, 20:7, 34:6, Leviticus 19:2, Deuteronomy 4:24, 6:5, 10:17, Isaiah 2:6, 16:7,
17:47, Nehemiah 4:14, Psalm 3:8, and Jeremiah 10:10 Where they all talk about Jehovah being the
living One God and King.
Note: In regards to Genesis 18 & 19, see my thorough refutation to the trinity lie that was
invented using them.


Now, in Isaiah 9:6 "For there has been a child born to us......",
Let us look at Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore Jehovah himself will give you men a sign: Look ! The maiden
herself will actually become pregnant, and she is giving birth to a son (Jesus the same person in Isaiah
9:6), and she will certainly call his name Immanuel." Here in Isaiah 7:14 we see Allah Almighty or
Jehovah is speaking clearly to the people of Israel predicting to them the coming of Prophet Jesus
peace be upon him. It doesn't say that "Jehovah" will come down and will be born from that woman.
Also, let us look at Luke 1:34 - 1:35 "But Mary said to the angel: How is this to be, since I am having
no intercourse with a man? In answer the angel said to her: Holy Spirit will come upon you, and
power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy,
God's Son." Again, here in this verse we don't see Allah Almighty or Jehovah saying that he will be
born from Mary the Virgin. The angel told her that she will have a miracle by becoming pregnant
without intercourse, and she will bring a holy person to life.
Also, let us look at Mathew 1:18-21 "But the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way. During the time his
mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, and was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before
they were united. How ever, Joseph her husband, because he was righteous and did not want to maker
her a public spectacle, intended to divorce her secretly. But after he had thought these things over, look
! Jehovah's angel appeared to him in a dream, saying: Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take
Mary your wife home, for that which has been begotten in her is by holy spirit. She will give birth to a
son, and you must call his name Jesus for he will save his people from their sins". This verse clearly
doesn't state that Jehovah was going to be born from Mary the Virgin. It states that someone other than
Jehovah who's name will be "Jesus" will be born from her.
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Also, let us look at John 1:14 "So the word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of
his glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of undeserved kindness
and truth." Again, this verse clearly states that Jehovah or Allah didn't come in a form of a man. It was
God's son who came to us. God's only begotten son. Further down in my paper you will see the real
definition of the word "Son" and what it really means. The word "Son" doesn't mean actual biological
son at all. You will see it further down.
Let us look at Luke 2:11 "Because there was born to you today a Savior, who is Christ (the) Lord, in
David's city." The word "Lord" in here doesn't mean GOD or Allah Almighty at all. It simply means
the master or the leader or the teacher or the most respected or the most admired among his people.
But it certainly doesn't refer to the Creator of this Universe. That is not what the word Lord means.
We use the word "Lord" a lot for "Drug Lords" or "Market Lords", etc.... They are not GODs. These
Lords are simply powerful people who have a lot of influence on us.

Defining the meaning of the word "Son":
After you finish reading this section, please visit: "Son of God" is same as "Servant of God" in
Hebrew. Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity.
Now in Isaiah 9:6 "....there has been a son given to us,.........",
Now let us look at John 3:16 "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten Son, in
order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life."
Ironically, Trinitarians from my personal experience with them rely on this verse (John 3:16) very
heavily when trying to prove that Allah or Jehovah came down to earth to die for our sins. They claim
that Jesus being God's unique son, makes him the only Son for God, which ultimately lead us to the
conclusion that Jehovah is Jesus.
Also, let us look at Hebrews 11:17 "By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a
sacrifice. He who had received the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son...." Abraham
had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael was 13 years older than Isaac. Yet we see that "his one and
only son" expression was used for Isaac. The Bible uses expressions like this to magnify people or to
glorify someone on a certain occasion. The Bible in this verse glorifies Isaac for being the chosen
sacrifice to God, according to what the Jews and Christians claim in their corrupted Bible. So Jesus
being God's "only begotten Son" in John 3:16 doesn't make him God nor the only Son of God.
Please visit Isaac and Ishmael in Islam and Christianity.
Now, Let us look at Exodus 4:22 "Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn." Here we
see in this verse that Israel is not only God's so called "Son", but also his first born !!. Does this mean
that Jehovah is Israel? Does it mean that we must worship Israel as Jehovah or Allah? Of course not
!!!
Also, let us look at Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Ephraim in
this verse means Israel. This verse is similar to Exodus 4:22.
Let us also look at Psalm 2:7 "....Jehovah had said onto me (David), thou art my Son; this day have I
begotten thee." Here in this verse we see that God not only called David his "Son", but also had made
him his begotten Son !!!.
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Swapping Game: Let us play a little swapping game between the verses of John 3:16, Exodus
4:22, Jeremiah 31:9, and Psalm 2:7. Let us take "his only begotten Son" from John 3:16 and replace it
in Exodus 4:22, and let us take "even my firstborn" from Exodus 4:22 and replace it in John 3:16.
Do you honestly think that the little swap game above would change anything in the meaning? Would
you still have believed in Jesus as Jehovah if the above swap was true?
The above swap proves that the word "Son" doesn't mean actual biological "Son" at all. It just means
that Jesus is a "Son" of Jehovah in a way that Jehovah loved him so much that he chose him to be his
messenger to the people of Israel.

Another Swapping Game: Let us replace "I begotten thee" from Psalm 2:7, and replace it in
John 3:16, and take "his only begotten Son" from John 3:16 and replace it in Psalm 2:7
Again, do you honestly think that the little swap game above would change anything in the meaning?
Would you still have believed in Jesus as Jehovah if the above swap was true?
Clearly, the above swap proves that the word "Son" doesn't mean actual biological "Son" at all. It just
means that Jesus is a "Son" of Jehovah in a way that Jehovah loved him so much that he chose him to
be his messenger to the people of Israel.

Jesus worshiping his God:
Let us look at Luke 5:16 "And he (Jesus) withdrew himself into the wilderness and prayed to his God."
Here we see that Jesus had a God, a supreme God, who is higher than him and stronger than him.
Jesus was God's servant and he prayed to God so God would strengthen him more and reinforce him
with patience and desire to continue his mission in spreading the word of God Almighty.
Also, let us look at Matthew 26:39 "And going a little way forward, he (Jesus) fell upon his face,
praying and saying 'My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but
as you will.' " Here in this verse we see two things: (1) Jesus bowed down on his face and prayed in
submission to his GOD in obedience. (2) Jesus was begging his GOD to let the cup pass away from
him. Jesus did not have the power to will it for himself and make the cup pass away from Jesus. GOD
had to do it for Jesus !. How can Jesus be the Creator of this Universe, the all knowing, most
powerful??!!
Also, let us look at Matthew 26:42 "Again, for the second time, he (Jesus) went off and prayed,
saying: 'My Father, if it is not possible for this to pass away except I drink it, let your will take place.'"
My comments on this verse are similar to the above one (Matthew 26:39), Jesus begged his GOD to
will what Jesus wanted to happen. Jesus couldn't will it by himself.
Also, let us look at Matthew 26:44 "So leaving them, he (Jesus) went off and prayed for the third time,
saying once more the same word." Here we see that Jesus for the third time begged his GOD to will
what Jesus wished for in Matthew 26:39 above. How can Jesus be the Creator of this Universe if he (1)
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begs, and (2) lacks power?!

Now in Isaiah 9:6 "......and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder......",
Let us look at Luke 22:29 "and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father (my GOD) has made a
covenant with me, for a kingdom,". Here we see that Jesus came down to serve Jehovah's Kingdom. It
wasn't Jehovah who was in Jesus in this verse. It was Jesus the Messenger of God who was serving his
God's Kingdom, Jehovah's Kingdom.
Let us look at 2 Samuel 7:13 -14 "He (David) is the one that will build a house for My Name
(Jehovah's Name), and I shall certainly establish the throne of his kingdom firmly to time indefinite. I
myself shall become his Father (His Guardian or Inspirer), and he himself will become my son. When
he does wrong, I will also reprove him with the rod of men and with the strokes of the sons of Adam."
In this verse, we see that David who came before Jesus had done the same thing to God as Jesus did.
David was a king, leader, and a messenger from God. It doesn't say that Jehovah is in David, nor it
says that David is Jehovah. The same way we interpret 2 Samuel 7:13-14 and all the verses about
David should be the same way we should interpret the Verses that talk about Jesus. Jesus is not
Jehovah, nor ever was.
Let us look at Revelation 19:16 "And upon his (Jesus) outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a
name written, King of kings and Lord of lords." Here we see that Jesus was called the King of all
Kings and the Lord (leader or master) of all Lords (masters). It doesn't prove anything about Jesus
being Jehovah, nor ever talks about Jehovah.
Let us look at Mathew 28:18-20 "And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: All authority
(from GOD) has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go therefore and make disciples of people
of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit
(GOD's inspiration), teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am
with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things." Here in this verse we have few
points that Trinitarians often confuse. Trinitarians use this verse very heavily to try to prove that
Jehovah or Allah is 3 in 1, meaning that GOD is the father + Jesus + The Holy Spirit.
This claim is a false one, because when Jesus said in Mathew 28:18-20 ".....All authority (from GOD)
has been give to me in heaven and on the earth...." it clearly shows that Jesus had a stronger or higher
power over him. One has to ask himself a very simple question here: How can GOD say that GOD
had given him authority? It doesn't make any sense, does it?
Also, when Jesus in Mathew 28:18-20 said ".....baptizing them in the name of the Father (God), the Son
(Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (GOD'S inspiration)...." he didn't say go and baptize people in my name
(Jehovah). He mentioned his GOD first, then himself (GOD'S messenger), and in GOD's inspiration
(The Holy Spirit). This clearly disproves the claim that GOD IS THREE = GOD+JESUS+HOLY
SPIRIT.
Also, when Jesus in Mathew 28:18-20 said "......teaching them to observe all the things I have
commanded you....." well of course Jesus's disciples needed to teach people from what Jesus taught
them !!!. Jesus was GOD's messenger, and God's favorite "Son" at that time. GOD had inspired Jesus
with all the teachings that people need to go and preach worshiping Jehovah, love and harmony to all
people.
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Also, when Jesus said in Mathew 28:18-20 ".....And look! I am with you all the days until the
conclusion of the system of things." he (Jesus) was referring to the Holy Spirit that GOD will send to
Jesus's disciples through either Jesus's inspiration or GOD's inspiration to them. This also doesn't
prove that Jesus is Jehovah or Allah. We must keep in mind that Jesus was not a normal human being.
He was the King of all Kings and the Lord of all Lords as stated above in (Revelation 19:16 . He had
power from GOD, and he was GOD's favorite "Son" at that time. Jesus had the power to inspire his
followers through GOD's Power, because GOD allowed him to do that.

Further more about Matthew 28:18-20 from www.jewsforjudaism.org:
Question: Doesn't the command by Matthew's Jesus to, "Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing
in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) show the existence of a
triune deity.
Answer: Matthew 28:19 states: "Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the
Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit." Although the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are grouped
together, this verse does not prove the existence of a triune deity. The verse merely indicates the
author's belief that they are to be mentioned together during baptism. Each is thought to have a function
in the initiation of the believer during the baptism ritual. Yet no doctrine of coequality among them is
promulgated in this verse.
In the early period baptism was simply in "Christ" (Galatians 3:27) or in the name of Jesus (1
Corinthians 1:13, Acts 8:16, 19:5). The text in Matthew represents a later stage of development, but is
still not trinitarian in meaning. The doctrine of the trinity is a still later development.

Let us look at Hebrew 5:7 "During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions
with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his
reverent submission." Here we see Jesus prayed to God be saved and God HEARD ( in any religious
speech the HEARD means that the person has been answer with the prayer) him.
Let us look at Mark 12:29 "The first of all the commandments is, Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is
one Lord." If trinity was a valid belief, then Mark 12:29 would have said "God is three in one".
Let us also look at Acts 3:22 "In fact, Moses said: Jehovah will raise up for you from among your
brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him according to all the things he speaks to you." Here
we see Prophet Moses peace be upon him predicting the coming Prophet Jesus peace be upon him.
Acts 3:22 didn't say that Jehovah will come down to earth in a form of a human being. Moses said in
Acts 3:22 ".....a prophet like me.....", which means that Jesus will be a human being like Moses. If
Jesus was Jehovah or Allah himself, then Moses wouldn't have said ".....a prophet like me.....".
Let us look at Mathew 3:16 "After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and,
look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God's spirit coming upon him.
Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have
approved." Here we see how much GOD loved Jesus and how much he admired him. Jehovah or
Allah in Mathew 3:16 was clearly greeting his messenger (Jesus), and telling him how much he loves
him.

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The devil tempting Jesus 3 times:
In Mathew 4:1-2 "Then Jesus was led by the spirit up into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil.
After he had fasted forty days and forty nights, then he felt hungry." One has to ask himself a very
simple question here: Why would Jesus allow the Devil to lead him to the wilderness to try to tempt
him if he were God? This clearly proves that Jesus is not and can not be God!!!.
In Mathew 4:5-6 "The the devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him upon the
battlement of the temple and said to him: If you are a son of God, hurl yourself down; for it is written
He (Jehovah) will give his angels a charge concerning you, and they will carry you on their hands, that
you may at no time strike your foot against a stone. Jesus said to him: Again it is written, you must
not put Jehovah your God to the test." Here we see that the devil for the second time tried to tempt
Jesus and have him do things that would make him doubt his GOD Jehovah or Allah. Jesus replied to
him by telling him that no matter what you try to do, you will never be able to test your GOD (your
creator). The devil was trying to have Jehovah or Allah send angels to Jesus, and Jesus made it clear to
the devil that no one can put GOD to the test, and no one can have GOD do anything without the will
of GOD. The devil will never be able to have Jehovah or Allah send down his angels if Jehovah didn't
will it.
In Mathew 4:8-10 "Again the devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all
the kingdoms of the world and their glory, and he said to him: All these things I will give you if you
fall down and do an act of worship to me. Then Jesus said to him: God away Satan! For it is written, It
is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone, you must render sacred service." Here
we clearly see that after the devil offered Jesus the world, Jesus told him to go away and to go and
worship Allah Almighty or Jehovah. One has to ask himself a very simple question here: If Jesus was
Jehovah, then how come he didn't tell Satan in Mathew 4:8-10 "It is me whom you must worship" ?
Jesus told Satan "It is Jehovah your God you must worship", which clearly shows that Jesus is not
Jehovah!!!.

Please visit: "Jesus obeyed Satan". Sam Shamoun of the "answering Islam" team admitted it through
his teeth, that Jesus obeyed satan for a little while when he was tempted. How can Jesus be the Creator
of the Universe when he was tempted by satan and obeyed him for a little while? This not only takes
away Jesus' perfection, but it also put him in sin.

From www.answering-christianity.com/satans_offer.htm
Let us look at the following verses from the Bible:
"Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and
their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." Jesus said to
him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'
" (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 4:8-10)"
"Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name. (From the NIV Bible,
Deuteronomy 6:13)"
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There are three logical problems with the polytheist trinity paganism in these verses:
1- Notice how satan told Jesus "if you will bow down and worship me." It is crystal clear that satan
knew Jesus as a Messenger from GOD Almighty, and not GOD Almighty Himself. Otherwise, he
wouldn't dare to tell his Creator that.
2- Notice Jesus' response to satan: "Away from me satan! For it is written 'Worship the LORD your
God, and serve Him only". Jesus here was clearly directing satan to GOD Almighty; a being other
than Jesus. Jesus did not tell satan "worship me".
3- Deuteronomy 6:13 is the verse that Jesus referred to when he said "For it is written". However,
Deuteronomy 6:13 says "and take your oaths in his name." What is that Name? It is Yahweh or
Jehovah. Jesus never even once was ever called Jehovah or Yahweh! Not even once!
Please visit: The absolute Oneness of GOD Almighty in the Bible's Old Testament.
Texts referring to GOD as "One, Alone, None Other, None Else".
Principles of Bible Interpretation about GOD Almighty.
The word "LORD" in the Bible referring to the Almighty GOD alone.
The word "Elohim" proves Trinity?
More on absolute Oneness of GOD Almighty in the Bible's Old Testament.
The "God" title in the Bible was given to others in the OT and NT. Answering Isaiah 9:6.

Now in Isaiah 9:6 "......And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor......"
Let us look at Isaiah 11:2-3 "And upon him the spirit of Jehovah must settle down, the spirit of wisdom
and of understanding, the spirit of counselor and of mightiness, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear
of Jehovah; and there will be enjoyment by him in the fear of Jehovah." In this verse, we clearly see
that Jehovah or Allah Almighty will be with Jesus to guide him, inspire him, and to educate him. That
spirit is called the spirit of Mightiness, where God had blessed his messenger Jesus peace be upon him
with that holy spirit. This verse clearly shows that Jesus is not Jehovah. In Isaiah 11:2 -3 we see GOD
Almighty had defined for the meaning of spirit of Jehovah. It means the spirit knowledge and knowing
the full truth, and the spirit of leading people to the path of GOD, and finally the spirit of fearing
Jehovah, where Jesus must fear Jehovah and do only what Jehovah command him to do because Jesus
is Jehovah's messenger and not Jehovah himself.
Let us look at Isaiah 42:1 "Look! My servant (Jesus), on whom I keep fast hold! My chosen one, whom
my soul has approved! I have put my spirit in him. Justice to the nations is what he will bring forth."
Here we see clearly that Jehovah or Allah Almighty had called Jesus his servant. His chosen servant,
whom GOD had put the spirit of guidance (as shown in the previous verse Isaiah 11:2-3) into him to
guide him and to teach him the truth so he can deliver it to his people, the people of Israel and to
nations that will receive his message. God was talking about Jesus as his servant and not as himself.
Let us look at Isaiah 52:13 "Look! My servant (Jesus) will act with insight (inspiration from GOD). He
will be in high station and will certainly be elevated and exalted very much." Here again, we see GOD
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talking about Jesus as her servant and not as himself, and is promising that his servant (Jesus) will be
well respected and well admired. GOD will inspire Jesus all the way throughout his ministry so they
can learn the full truth. It doesn't prove anything about Jesus being GOD himself !!!.
Let us look at Mathew 12:18 "Look! My servant (Jesus) whom I chose, my beloved, whom my soul
approved! I will put my spirit upon him, and what justice is he will make clear to the nations." This
verse is similar to Isaiah 42:1 where Allah Almighty or Jehovah calls Jesus his servant and not himself,
and promises to inspire him all the way through his ministry. Let us see the many others who carried
GOD's Spirit in them in the Bible:

Others who carried GOD's Spirit in them:
Numbers 24:2 "When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God
came upon him"
Judges 3:10 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him, so that he became Israel's judge and went to war.
The LORD gave Cushan-Rishathaim king of Aram into
the hands of Othniel, who overpowered him."
Judges 6:34 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, summoning the
Abiezrites to follow him."
Judges 11:29 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh,
passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites."
Judges 14:6 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart with his
bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told
neither his father nor his mother what he had done."
Judges 14:19 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. He went down to Ashkelon,
struck down thirty of their men, stripped them of their belongings and gave their clothes to those who
had explained the riddle. Burning with anger, he went up to his father's house."
Judges 15:14 "As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the
LORD came upon him in power. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings
dropped from his hands."
1 Samuel 10:6 "The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with
them; and you will be changed into a different person."
1 Samuel 10:10 "When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God
came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying."
1 Samuel 11:6 "When Saul heard their words, the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he
burned with anger."
1 Samuel 16:13 "So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and
from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah."
1 Samuel 16:16 "Let our lord command his servants here to search for someone who can play the harp.
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He will play when the evil spirit from God comes upon you, and you will feel better." GOD HAS AN
EVIL SPIRIT??!!
1 Samuel 16:23 "Whenever the spirit from God came upon Saul, David would take his harp and play.
Then relief would come to Saul; he would feel better, and the evil spirit would leave him."
1 Samuel 18:10 "The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying
in his house, while David was playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand..."
ANOTHER EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD??!!
1 Samuel 19:9 "But an evil spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with
his spear in his hand. While David was playing the harp,..." ANOTHER EVIL SPIRIT FROM
GOD??!!
1 Kings 22:23 "God sent LYING SPIRITS to lie to people" Does GOD lie?!
1 Samuel 19:20 "so he sent men to capture him. But when they saw a group of prophets prophesying,
with Samuel standing there as their leader, the Spirit of God came upon Saul's men and they also
prophesied."
1 Samuel 19:23 "So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even upon him, and he
walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth."
2 Chronicles 15:1 "The Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded."
Ezekiel 11:5 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon me, and he told me to say: "This is what the
LORD says: That is what you are saying, O house of Israel, but I know what is going through your
mind."
Ezekiel 37:1 "The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD
and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones."
Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the
Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."
Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was
waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him."
Why do we have to consider Jesus as the Creator of this Universe or someone who is
equal to GOD just because GOD had put His spirit in Jesus, and not consider the
many others who carried GOD's spirit above as equal to GOD?

Now, let us look at John 4:34 "Jesus said to them: My food is for me to do the will of him (Jehovah)
that sent me and to finish his work." Here we see clearly that Jesus told his followers that GOD is
higher than him, and Jesus can only do things within Jehovah's will. Also Jesus said that his mission is
to finish the work of Jehovah that was assigned to Jesus peace be upon him.
Let us look at John 5:30 "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the
judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me."
Here we see two things in this verse: First, Jesus recognized, admitted and preached to his followers
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that his is nothing special nor have any power in him. Second, Jesus does nothing of his own will; he
only does the will of GOD who sent him and who inspires him.
Let us look at John 5:31 "If I (Jesus) alone bear witness about myself, my witness is not true. There is
another that bears witness about me, and I know that the witness which he bears about me is true."
Here we also see that Jesus admits and preaches to his followers that he is not powerful. The only
powerful is GOD, his GOD.
Let us look at John 5:36-38 "But I have the witness greater than that of John, for the very works that
my Father (my GOD) assigned me to accomplish, the works themselves that I am doing, bear witness
about me that the Father (GOD) dispatched me. Also, the Father (GOD) who sent me has himself
borne witness about me. You have neither heard his voice at any time nor ever seen his figure; and you
do not have his word remaining in you, because the very one whom he dispatched you do not believe."
Personally speaking, I never had a single Trinitarian explain this verse to me directly. They always
give me indirect answers that have nothing to do with this verse (John 5:36-38). Here we see Jesus
again clearly defines GOD as greater than him, and he told his followers that they have never seen
GOD nor ever heard his voice. I don't know what more Allah Almighty and Jesus need to say to prove
to Trinitarians that GOD and Jesus are two separate beings !!!.
Let us look at Deuteronomy 4:12 "And GOD began to speak to you out of the middle of the fire. The
sound of words was what were you hearing, but no form were you seeing nothing but a voice." This
verse is another proof that no one ever seen GOD in any form.

Now in Isaiah 9:6 "......Mighty God,....."
Does the Bible in the Old Testament confirm trinity?
The "God" title in Isaiah 9:6 was given to others
It is quite unfortunate that in the old Jewish culture, people used to be named "Godly" names. This is
quite misleading and deceiving to Christians when they try to define the deity of Jesus.
Many people in the Jewish old culture were called "God" before Jesus' existence on earth. The
following translations were verified by http://bible.crosswalk.com:
(the first two were added latter)
1- Jerusalem was called "The LORD our Righteousness". "In those days Judah will be
saved and Jerusalem will live in safety. This is the name by which it will be called: The LORD Our
Righteousness (Yahweh tsidken).' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 33:16)"
2- Abraham called a mountain "The LORD will Provide" (Yahweh Jireh). "So
Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide (Yahweh Jireh). And to this day it is said, "On
the mountain of the LORD it will be provided. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 22:14)"
3- Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".
4- Elijah. This name is short for EliJehovah or "Eli Yahweh". Eli means my GOD, and Yahweh is
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the name and title of GOD Almighty in the Bible. Does "Eli Yahweh" or Elijah mean that the person is
Jehovah Himself?
5- Israel means "Challenge God", "he struggles with God", or "fight with God". It also means "Defeat
God".
6- Gabriel also means "Strong God".
7- Isaiah or Jesaiah, which is short for "Jesa Yahweh" means "Salvation from Yahweh". It could
also mean "Salvation".
8- Joshua, which is short for "Josh Yahweh" means "Yahweh Saves".
9- Elli, which is a common name for men before and after Jesus, means "God". Psalm 82:6 "I said,
'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is
plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a
combination of several "EL"s. And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in
the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah. I also want to point
out that ANY "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God" as clearly shown in Psalm 82:6.
Note: The trinitarian liars who translate the Bible into English play dirty tricks about capitalizing and
lowering the "g" in "God" to prove their trinity lie, while they fully know that it is the same word used
for ALL!
10- Immanuel, Emanuel, Emmanuel, Immanuel, or Imanuel are the SAME NAME and are another
name for Jesus, means "With us is God". This name is also common for men before and after Jesus.
11- Elihu means "My God is He".
12- Gedaliah means "Jehovah is Great". Again, Gedaliah is short for "Gedal Yahweh". Is the
person who was called "Jehovah is Great" GOD Almighty Himself? People before and after Jesus
are given this name. See 2 Kings 25:22-24.
13- Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows".
14- Eliab means "my God is Father".
15- Elzaphan means "God is Protector"
16- Eliakim means "God raises".
17- Elisha means "God is Salvation".
18- Eleazar means "God has helped"
19- Judah or Yahawdah means "Praised". It generally means "Praised by Yahweh".
20- Hashabiah means "Jehovah has considered".
21- Mattithiah means "Gift of Jehovah".
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22- Michael (nick name "Mike") means "who is like God". Yet, non is like Him, the Almighty.
See Exodus 8:10.
23- Jesus, Yahshua, Yeshua or Yashua are the SAME NAME, and mean "Salvation". It doesn't mean
"God Saves" as Christians claim. Jesus (Yeshua) means in Hebrew "salvation" and not "God saves".
Yud Shin Waw Ain - this name doesn't include the word "God".
Joshua (Yehoshya) - Yod Hey - Waw Shin Ain
Isaya (Yeshayah) - Yod Shin Ain - Yod Hey .
These two names are combination of Yod, Shin, Ain - salvation and Yod, Hey - Yahwe.
Yosh Hey (Yah) is common short from Yahwe, for example Alleluia comes from "Halelu Yah" -
"Glorify Yahwe".

I confirmed the correctness of the above translations with the Jewish Sabbath Temple. See also how the
Christian Translators are in error regarding some of the translations of the "Godly" names that were
fixed above.

In the above examples, we clearly see that the old Jewish culture gave "Godly" titles to people who are
not in anyway divine.
Notice that in Isaiah 9:6, it clearly says "and his NAME shall be...." This clearly proves that "Mighty
God" is just a name given to the coming Prophet (Jesus). Since this is just a name, this also clearly
proves other people in the old Jewish culture were named that name before, even if they're not
mentioned in the current Bible.
Have Isaiah 9:6 said "and he will be God Almighty Himself" or "and he will be the God Almighty"
then this would be different, because we now would be talking about not just a NAME given to
someone, but rather GOD Almighty Himself.
Important Note: There is not a single Verse in the New Testament where Jesus was called directly or
named directly "Mighty God" or even "God". Notice in Isaiah 9:6 it clearly says "and his name shall
be...." Jesus was called "Son of GOD" as many others in the Bible were called Sons of GOD as shown
below in this article and as was shown above also in this article, but he never even once was addressed
as "Mighty God" or "God", nor ever claimed to be "Mighty God" or "God".
The Jews believe that Isaiah 9:6 was referring to somebody else, other than Jesus. The Book of Isaiah
which obviously contains Isaiah 9:6 came 700 before the birth of Jesus. The Jews had absolutely no
problem calling somebody who came 700 years before Jesus "El Gibor (Mighty God)". That person's
name is Hezekiah. The Jews believe that Isaiah 9:6 is referring to Hezekiah and not Jesus, and they
did indeed address Hezekiah as "Mighty God". This proves that many people before Jesus were named
even at birth "El Gibor (Mighty God)", just like people were also named "Ezekiel (Strong God)", "Elli
(God)", "Gabriel (Strong God)", etc...

The "Mighty God" translation
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"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty God", but close. "Strong" is
more correct (but it is different from strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is
short full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong God". "Gabriel" is an
angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have exactly the same root, and they
are both the same word. The word itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
By the way, "EL" can also mean "Judge". So "El Gibor" can also be translated as "Strong Judge".
The "Mighty God" translation is just one possibility. This type of differences in translation exists
throughout the Hebrew language, where words' meaning change depending on the sentence. That is
why there is no one single solid Bible Translation!. Theologians have difficulties agreeing on some
key issues in translations. That's why we see so many different Bibles with so many different
translations.
But anyhow, even if "Mighty God" was the right translation, it is still just a NAME given to Jesus and
nothing more. It doesn't in anyway prove that he is the creator of the Universe. Many people as shown
above were given the misleading "Godly" titles before Jesus.

Did Jesus ever claim to be "Mighty God" or "God"?
From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
Let us look at John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One." This verse is severely misunderstood and
is taken out of context, because beginning at verse John 10:23 we read (in the context of 10:30) about
Jesus talking to the Jews. In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states:
"...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all,
and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."
These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of
either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, "
My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...," in John 10:29 completely negates this claim,
otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus.
Also let us look at verse John 17:20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I
in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE". In this
verse, the same word ONE used, the Greek, HEN is used, not only to describe Jesus and the Father but
to describe Jesus, the Father and eleven of the twelve disciples of Jesus. So here if that implies equality,
we have a unique case of 13 Gods.
Of the verse in question, "I and the Father are One" in (John 10:30), we also need to take note of the
verses following the 30th verse in the text. In those verses, the Jews accuse Jesus falsely of claiming to
be God by these words. He however replies, proving their accusation wrong by their own text: "The
Jews answered him saying,'For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because that
thou being a man, makest thyself a God '" (John 10:33).
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Jesus replies to this accusation saying: "Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, "I said ye
are gods. If He can call them gods, unto whom the word of God came, say ye of him whom the Father
hath sanctified and sent into the world, "Thou blasphemeth," because I said I am the son of God?'"
(John 10:34-36).
Let us look at Acts 2:22 "O you men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved
of God among you..." Peter in the Book of Acts testifies about Jesus. Jesus thus even to his disciples,
as to early Christians, not poisoned by Pauline doctrine, was a man, not a God.

From www.jewsforjudaism.org:
Question: In John 10:30 Jesus says, "I and the Father are one [hen]." Doesn't this show that they are
one in essence?
This statement does not suggest either a dual or triune deity. What John's Jesus meant by the word hen
("one") becomes clear from his prayer concerning the apostles: "That they may be one [hen], just as we
are one [hen]" (John 17:22), which means that they should be united in agreement with one another as
he (Jesus) is always united in agreement with God, as stated: "I [Jesus] always do the things that are
pleasing to Him [God]" (John 8:29).
There is thus no implication that Jesus and God, or the twelve apostles are to be considered as of one
essence.

Questions to you
From the names above, do you honestly think that "Strong God", "Yahweh is Strong God", "Yahweh
Saves", "God", "Yahweh", "My God is He", "God is Salvation", "Jehovah is Great" and "Mighty God"
have much differences in their meanings?
I mean, why consider Jesus as GOD Himself, which is a great blasphemy, when he was given a normal
"Godly" title that was given to others before him?
If Jesus was named "Jehovah is Great (Gedaliah)" for instance, then we would see Trinitarian
Christians trying their best to prove that he is GOD Almighty Himself. Why then not consider the
people who were named "Gedaliah" before and after Jesus as GOD Almighty Himself also? Why not
consider these people divine as well?
Important Note: So if Jesus was named "Michael or Mike (who is like God)", then we would see
Trinitarian Christians claim that he is GOD Almighty, since Exodus 8:10 clearly states that there is non
like GOD, and yet Jesus (Mike) is like GOD which would without a doubt make him GOD.
This is the type of false interpretations and conclusions that Trinitarian Christians fall into.
Very Important Note: The reason why the foretold person would be regarded as "Mighty God" is not
because he will be GOD Almighty Himself. His name or title being "Mighty God" is nothing but a
way to show that the person will be very important and very powerful. He will be like a God on earth
because of his Might. I must emphasize that again, the person's "NAME" will be called "Mighty
God". Isaiah 9:6 never said that the person will be GOD Almighty Himself, or GOD Almighty will be
that person. The word "NAME" means that the name will be just a (misleading) Godly title as many
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misleading Godly titles were given to others before and after Jesus peace be upon him in the Bible. I
must also emphasize that in the New Testament, Jesus was not even once called or addressed as
"Mighty God" or "God", nor did he ever claim to be "Mighty God" or "God". So if he were indeed the
foretold person in Isaiah 9:6 (which I personally believe he were), then this means that Jesus peace be
upon him is not GOD Almighty, but a powerful Messenger of GOD Almighty or someone who has
Might that was chosen by GOD Almighty. The Jews as I mentioned above, believe that the person is
Hezekiah and not Jesus. Either way, the person in Isaiah 9:6 is not GOD Almighty Himself.

Is Jesus the biological Son of GOD?
Trinitarian Christians claim that since Jesus was called "Son of GOD", then this would make him the
Creator of the Universe Himself. This is a great blasphemy, because this belief holds no concrete
ground what so ever!. You do not call someone GOD Almighty Himself from a conclusion, especially
when it easily can be refuted.
Many people before Jesus were called "Sons of GOD" in the Bible. Let us look at few of them:
1- Exodus 4:22 "Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn." Israel was GOD's Son
before Jesus since Israel is the "first born". Does this make Israel divine?
2- Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Ephraim is another name for
Israel.
3- Psalm 2:7 "....Jehovah had said onto me (David), thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."
Since GOD Almighty chose David to be His begotten Son, does this make David divine too?
The "Son of GOD" title that was given to Jesus wasn't the only title for him. Jesus was also called
"Son of David." Keep in mind that Jesus came at least 1,000 years after King David. Jesus was also
called "Son of Man". See Matthew 1:1, Matthew 9:27, Matthew 12:23, Matthew 15:22, Matthew
20:30-31, Matthew 22:42, and many other verses.
Is the Man whom Jesus was called his son (possibly David) divine? Is David divine since Jesus is his
Son?
How come Christian Roman Catholics have created the Theological Science of Maryology, and never
created the Theological Science of Davidology? I mean think about it, if Jesus the "Almighty GOD"
was called "Son of David", then shouldn't this make David a divine person, since he is one from the
many billions that GOD created in this world?
Jesus was called:
Son of GOD
Son of David
Son of Man
Why consider Jesus as the actual biological Son of GOD, when the same expression was used for King
David being Jesus' Father who existed 1,000 years before Jesus?
Why can't "Son of GOD" that was used for Jesus be just an expression just like the "Godly" titles and
"Son of GOD" expressions that were used for others before Jesus as well as shown above?
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Therefore
Christians believe in Jesus as GOD Almighty, yet, he never claimed to be GOD. There is absolutely no
concrete base for Trinity. Just because Jesus was called "Son of God" doesn't also make him GOD.
David was called GOD's BEGOTTEN Son in Psalm 2:7. Israel was called GOD's first born Son in
Exodus 4:22. There are many other examples for GOD's Sons in the Bible.
All what Christians have are conclusions. Conclusions come from theories. Theories are always
venerable for disproof. Have Jesus said "I am your LORD worship me" as GOD said in the Old
Testament, then we would have a solid concrete ground. But as far as I am concerned, Trinity is very
weak and bogus! with all respect due to Trinitarian Christians. Non of GOD's religions (including the
New Testament) taught Trinity. The word "Trinity" doesn't even exist in the Bible!.
Trinity is a false interpretation that was caused by the unfortunate exaggerating and misleading
"Godly" name that was given to Jesus and to others in the Old Jewish Culture. The only unique title
that GOD Almighty had in the Bible that non was ever called (including Jesus) was "Yahweh" or
"Jehovah".
Bring me one Bible Verse that directly referred to Jesus as "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" and then I'll
consider Trinity to be a valid belief in the Bible.

The Hebrew word "Echad (One)" in the Bible:
Let us look at Mark 12:29 "The First is, "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One." Jesus, according to
the source of Christianity, in the records that we have of his sayings, never made a claim to be divine.
In an answer to a question on what the first commandment was, he replied by saying God is One.
Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 6:4. Therefore, let us examine the Hebrew of this verse:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. (Deuteronomy 6:4)" Trinitarian Christians
claim that this verse states that the LORD is a "compound one"; he is multiple entities or objects
combined together forming one GOD. Here is my response to them:

Please visit: "Echad" in the Bible means "A Great Absolute One" for
GOD Almighty.
And
Texts referring to GOD as "One, Alone, None Other, None Else".

Mislead Views from Christians regarding the "God" title: When I debate with Christians
about this "God" expression given to Jesus compared to other Prophets and people, they claim that the
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word "God" with a capital "G" refers to God himself, and the word "god" with small "g" refers to
humans. They also claim that they came to this type of translation from the Greek translation. Some
lies and discrepancies had been inserted into the Bible through capitalizing the letter "G" when it is
supposed to be a small "g" when referring to Jesus:
The following is from the work of Shiekh Ahmed Deedat; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with
him:
Let us look at John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was
God." This is often presented from the Gospel of John to prove that Jesus was God. There are however
several problems with this claim: By this verse it is assumed that Jesus was the "word" and since the
word was God and became flesh, Jesus is God. The statement that John reproduced in his gospel
however was uttered not by John but by A. Philo of Alexandria, years before Jesus or John were born.
It is therefore completely unlikely that Philo was even remotely referring to Jesus.
There is also another reason for not capitalizing the "G" in John 1:1, considering the Greek of the above
verse which disproves the assertion that Jesus is referred to as God in the verse. In the verse above, the
first time the word God is used, the Greek is HOTHEOS (the same exact word given to Satan as God in
2 Corinthians 4:4. The NIV Bible Author wrote "god" for Satan instead of "God"), which means The
God. The second time the word God is used,"....and the word was God," the word for God is
TONTHEOS, which means "a god". Europeans have evolved a system of capital and small letters non-
existent in Greek. The God, HOTHEOS is translated as God with a capital G, whereas Tontheos, which
means A or ANY God is translated with a small g, god. In this case however, we see the unlawful
translators trying to prove Jesus being God by putting capital G for both whereas it doesn't belong in
the case of the "word".
So can we trust the current English Translations? Given that facts above about verse John
1:1, how can we expect from an ordinary English speaking Christian who wants to spread his religion
with all his heart honestly and faithfully to understand this lie of capitalizing the small "g" in John 1:1
and other verses, and not capitalizing the capital "M" in the word "mighty" in Psalm 24:8 and the "g" in
2 Corinthians 4:4 (for Satan) for instance? Must we allow our faith to be all based on what other
authors decide to insert from their own personal views into the Bible?

Is Jesus Immanu-el?
From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
Let us look at Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore, the Lord himself will give you a sign, behold a will conceive and
bear a child and shall call his name Immanu-el." It is claimed that this verse was a prophecy about the
birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary. It is further claimed that since the word Immanuel means "God with
us," the person being talked about, i.e Jesus was God. The word translated as "virgin" is the wrong
translation of the Hebrew word ALMAH. The word ALMAH in Hebrew means "young woman." The
correct Hebrew word for virgin is BETHULAH. Since many young women begot children since those
words were penned, it is not at all necessary that those words should apply to Jesus.
Another fact that is often ignored is that Jesus was never named Immanuel, nor did anyone ever address
him as Immanuel when he lived. On the contrary, the Messiah was named Jesus (Luke 2:21) by the
angel according to the gospels. Also, even if a person is named Immanuel, it doesn't mean that the
person so named is God. Consider for example all the people named ELI in the Old Testament. ELI
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means God in the Hebrew. It is also narrated that Jesus while talking to God referred to Him as ELI
(Mark 15:34 & Matthew 27:46). We cannot however on this basis of just name accept all the people
named ELI in the Old Testament as Gods. Similarly, we cannot accept a person named Immanuel (God
with us) as God. Jesus was never named Immanuel anyway, so both ways the argument and claim are
false.

What did Jesus say about GOD?
In Matthew 24:36 Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day
will come; Only GOD knows. Jesus's followers wanted to know when the Judgment day will come.
In John 14:28 "The Father is greater than I."
In John 10:29 "My Father is greater than ALL."
In John 5:30 "I can of mine own self do NOTHING.....I seek not my own will but the will of Him who
sent me." Jesus was sent in this verse by his own admission. In this verse he himself says that the one
who is sent: "..... the one who is sent is not greater than the one who sent (John 13:16)."

Thomas is misunderstood in verse John 20:28:
From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
It is often claimed that since Thomas referred to Jesus as "My God, my Lord (John 20:28)," that Jesus
was God. An ignorance of the context of the verse and of Christian doctrine prompts this claim. The
context of the verse talks about an unbelieving Thomas being surprised when Jesus offers him
evidence.
The exclamation, "My God," on his part was just astonishment. We use such exclamations everyday
while talking to people. This doesn't mean that the person we are talking to is God. For example, I see
John cutting his wrist with a Rambo knife. I say: "My God, John what are you doing?" Do I mean that
John is God? Of course not. Similar is the use of the expression by Thomas. If you go into Jewish or
Muslim societies even today, you'll hear people exclaim "My God, my Lord," at every situation which
surprises them or causes them anguish or is astonishing. In the verse above Thomas says: "My God,
my Lord." He was not claiming that Jesus was his (1) God and (2) Lord. If he did then the church and
the disciples should have stamped him as a heretic right there and then. Because claiming that Jesus is
Lord and God is a violation of Christian doctrine, which asserts that there is One God, the Father and
One Lord, Jesus. Jesus can't be God and Lord. "...yet for us there is but one God, the Father...and one
Lord, Jesus Christ ...(I Corinthians 8:6)". Believing the above (i.e Jesus is Lord and God) would leave
a person with unorthodox doctrine branded by the church as Sabellianism, Patripassianism,
Monarchianism.

Jesus saying "I am":
From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
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It is claimed that Jesus used the words, "I am", and since these same words were used by God to
describe Himself to the people in the Old Testament, Jesus was claiming to be God. John 8:58, is
presented to back this claim. In the verse, Jesus says: " Before Abraham was I am. (John 8:58)" Now,
if Jesus existed before Abraham did, that might be a remarkable thing, but does that prove that he was
God?
How many people existed before Abraham? The Bible presents Jeremiah as being a prophet before he
was conceived in his mother's womb; "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were
born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 1:5)"
Yet no one says that his pre-human existence qualifies him for deity. In Exodus chapter 3, God
allegedly says: "I am what I am." Long before the time of Jesus, there existed a Greek translation of the
Old Testament called the Septuagint. The key word, "I am," in Exodus which is used by Christians to
prove the deity of Jesus is translated as "HO ON." However, when Jesus uses the word in John 8:58 the
Greek of the "I am," is EGO EIMI. If Jesus wanted to tell the Jews that he was claiming to be God he
should have at least remained consistent in the use of words or the whole point is lost. How many
people in that age would have said "I am," in answer to questions in everyday life. Billions. Are they all
gods? Of course not !.

Jesus claiming to be the "Alpha and the Omega":
Please visit: Jesus the "Alpha and Omega". Not only this quote doesn't prove Jesus as GOD, but it
was also written in a book that is unreliable in later bibles. In the original Bibles, the quote doesn't
even exist!!
Arche of the Creation of God as Alpha and Omega. The "Alpha and Omega" doesn't even exist in
the original Bibles! It's a lie that was later inserted by trinitarians. See the historical proofs in the
article. If their site is down, then you can read the article at this link ON MY SITE.

From www.jewsforjudaism.org:
Question : In the Book of Revelation we find the verse, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord
God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8). But what do you do
with Revelation 22:13, which appears to be Jesus speaking (see verse 16), when he says, "I am the
Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end"? Doesn't the command by
Matthew's Jesus to, "Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, and the
Son, and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) show the existence of a triune deity.
Answer: Despite the distinctiveness with which God and Jesus are regarded in the New Testament
some Christians are under the misconception that God and Jesus form two-thirds of a triune deity.
Partial responsibility for this error is due to the New Testament writers, who use a number of
designations for Jesus, which are the same as those given to God in the Jewish Bible and in the New
Testament. The resulting confusion as to whether certain New Testament passages refer to God or to
Jesus helped to produce the belief in a triune god.
That Jesus, who is considered by the New Testament writers to be the link between God and creation,
is called by some of the same designations that are applied to God is understandable. After all, the New
Testament writers believed that God had conferred a tremendous amount of power upon this angelic
being, so why not, as well, some of His names, which express certain facets of His being? But it is
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nevertheless clear that although the God of the New Testament interacts with the world He created
solely through His "firstborn" (Colossians 1:15-17), the latter is still subservient to God. Because of the
exalted yet subservient position in which they envision Jesus, the New Testament writers do not believe
it compromises God's status to apply some of His names to Jesus (cf. Ephesians 1:21, Philippians 2:9,
Hebrews 1:4). The use of common names is not intended to indicate that Jesus is of one substance with
God.
Perhaps, if "the Alpha and the Omega" in Revelations 22:13 is actually a reference to Jesus it stems
from the New Testament belief that the pre-incarnate Jesus was the first thing created by God. What is
significant is not so much the use of this name as the fact that whenever the relationship between God
and Jesus is treated, the New Testament writers always describe God as superior to Jesus.
In any case, in verse 12 the subject of verse 13 ("the Alpha and the Omega") says he is "coming
quickly." Since Jesus has not come "quickly" this is either false prophecy or the text is not speaking
about Jesus.

GOD says "Let us create".... in the book of Genesis: (Does "us" mean GOD and
Jesus?)
It is unfortunate that Trinitarians try their best to try to prove that Jesus was GOD himself even if the
cost is corrupting the real meanings of the Old Testament. In Hebrew, Arabic and Aramaic, the word
"us" can be used to magnify a person. If a Chief Executive Officer of a company in the Middle East
wants to say for instance "I decided to do the following....", then he would say it "We decided to do the
following...." even though he would be referring to himself only.
If the word "us" in the book of Genesis is referring to Trinity as Trinitarians believe, then how come
people back then were not Trinitarians? How come the concept of Trinity was born 2300 years after
the book of Genesis? More than 1/3 of The Holy Quran (The Muslims' Holy Book) talks about Allah
Almighty (GOD). Allah Almighty in numerous verses says "We" about himself. Muslims today
believe in One GOD and don't believe in Trinity. Jews also believe in One GOD and not in Trinity,
even though in their Holy Books such as the Talmud, GOD refers to Himself as "We" and not "I".
My dear friend, you must first study the languages of Hebrew, Arabic and Aramaic before you (as a
Trinitarian) start corrupting the Old Testament's real meanings. I think this would be a sin !.
Further more regarding GOD using the word "Us" in the Bible:
From www.jewsforjudaism.org:
Question : God said: "Let us make man in our image . . ." (Genesis 1:26) and "Come, let us go down,
and there confound their language" (Genesis 11:7). To whom does the "us" refer?
Answer: Trinitarian Christians maintain that Genesis 1:26 and Genesis 11:7 are prooftexts of an alleged
tri-unity god, but this claim is erroneous. The inference that "Let us make man in our image" (Genesis
1:26) refers to the plurality of God is refuted by the subsequent verse, which relates the creation of man
to a singular God, "And God created man in His image" (Genesis 1:27). In this verse the Hebrew verb
"created" appears in the singular form. If "let us make man" indicates a numerical plurality, it would be
followed in the next verse by, "And they created man in their image." Obviously, the plural form is
used in the same way as in the divine appellation 'Elohim, to indicate the all-inclusiveness of God's
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attributes of authority and power, the plurality of majesty. It is customary for one in authority to speak
of himself as if he were a plurality. Hence, Absalom said to Ahithophel, "Give your counsel what we
shall do" (2 Samuel 16:20). The context shows that he was seeking advice for himself' yet he refers to
himself as "we" (see also Ezra 4:16-19).

What does "Jesus" mean? does it mean "God saves" as Christians claim?
The answer was given to me by Nick. He is Jewish and speaks Hebrew fluently.
Jesus ( Yeshua ) means in Hebrew "salvation" and not "God saves" .
Yud Shin Waw Ain - this name dosn't include the word "God" .
Joshua ( Yehoshya ) - Yod Hey - Waw Shin Ain
Isaya ( Yeshayah ) - Yod Shin Ain - Yod Hey .
These two names are combination of Yod, Shin, Ain - salvation and Yod, Hey - Yahwe.
Yosh Hey ( Yah ) is common short from Yahwe, for example Alleluia comes from "Halelu Yah" -
"Glorify Yahwe".
Let us look at Exodus 7:1 "Consequently Jehovah said to Moses: See, I have made you like God to
Pharaoh and Aaron your brother will become your Prophet." There are two important things in this
verse, first Moses was called "like God" and second Moses had a Prophet or Messenger. It is clear
from this verse that God in the Bible used glorifying expressions to magnify someone. Of course
Moses being called like God doesn't make him a holy person. Moses according to the Bible was a
murderer and a sinful person for a period of time, and the God of the Bible still chose to call him "like
God", which clearly shows that "God" is only a magnifying title. The only unique title to God is
Jehovah in the Bible. Also, it is commonly known that Prophets and Messengers are sent only by
Jehovah or Allah Almighty and only belong to him. In Exodus 7:1 we see that Moses not only became
"like God", but he also owned a Prophet or Messenger. Of course Moses was never GOD himself. This
verse only used an expression to magnify Moses.
Let us also look at 1 Corinthians 8:5 "For even though there are those (people) who are called gods,
whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many gods and many lords." This verse clearly shows
us that we must not take the word "god" that is used for a human being as actual God or Jehovah or
Allah Almighty.
Let us look at Psalms 82:6 "I myself (Jehovah) have said: You are gods and all of you are sons of the
Most High." Here we see that Jehovah or Allah Almighty called other Prophets "Gods" and his "Sons".
Does that make them Jehovah himself just because they were called Gods? Of course not.
Let us look at Psalms 82:1 "God is stationing himself in the assembly of the Divine One; In the middle
of gods he judges." Here we see that God will judge his own Gods in the day of judgment. Again, the
word "god" is just a magnifying expression when given to people. It doesn't mean the actual GOD
himself.
Let us look at Jeremiah 51:57 "And I (Jehovah) will make her Princes and her wise ones, her governors
and her deputy rulers and her mighty men drunk...." Here we see that the word "Mighty" was used to
magnify men. It is the same word that is used to magnify God. We can clearly see in this verse that
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the word "Mighty" is just a magnifying expression that is not always used for GOD or Jehovah.
Let us also look at Joshua 6:2 "And Jehovah went on to say to Joshua: See, I have given Jericho and
it's king, the valiant mighty men, into your hand." Again, here we see the word "mighty" used for
magnifying men and not God.
Let us look at Hebrew 1:3 "He (Jesus) is the reflection of (GOD's) glory and the exact representation of
his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification
for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places." Of course Jesus was GOD's
reflection. Muslims and Christians agree that Jesus was GOD's spirit (but not GOD himself), and
GOD's favorite creation. Allah Almighty chose Jesus to be his favorite messenger and he was GOD's
favorite creation. Jesus represented GOD very well, and he was GOD's ambassador to his people.
Christians often confuse Jesus's favorite place in GOD's heart with GOD himself. Jesus was the King
of Kings and the Lord of Lords, he had the Majesty place in heaven.
Also again, let us look at John 1:14 "So the word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a
view of his glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of undeserved
kindness and truth." This verse was explained earlier in this page. Here we see that Jesus and GOD are
two different entities or beings. Jesus was glorious, GOD's favorite son (creation, not actual biological
son as explained earlier in this page), GOD's messenger, but he was never GOD himself.
Let us look at John 1:18 "No man has seen GOD at anytime; the only-begotten GOD who is in the
bosom (position) with the Father is the that has explained him." Here we see Jesus telling his followers
that no one has seen GOD. This verse also proves that Jesus is not GOD.

Now in Isaiah 9:6 "......Eternal Father,....."
Click on the link below to see how the Bible really defines the terms "Father" and "The Father":


From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

Father and Son Definitions:
Definition of Key Terms (a discussion between me and a Christian):
1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam?
(see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?
3- Jesus had to at least match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power. See this
text-debate between me and a Christian brother.
4- Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus? Yes it does.
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John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2]
[3])."

Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will with ample verses.

In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:
(a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like
unto anyone or anything.
(b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings
that were made by the Word and the Spirit.
(c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water
physical world and Universes (plural).
Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?


"Father" and "Son" in Islam and the Bible:
5- Is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are
some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON":
(a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian
():
See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say
, which means "The Legal Guardian". is derived
from the root word . also means a chosen friend to
Allah Almighty, as in the following point.
(b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (,
and ):
We further read the following in the Bible:
Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your
people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your
friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and
it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's
friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD
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Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy
Quran:
[002:257] Allah is the friend () and patron of those who believe.
He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those
who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead
them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be
the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart
(and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and
Protector ()? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their
trust!
[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his
whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true
in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend ().
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is
clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious
Quran uses for these words and definitions:
http://www.answering-
christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203

(c)- BEGET = CHOSE:
Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:
King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me,
Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32,
38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:
[027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He
has chosen (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the
false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59
[003:033] God did choose Adam and Noah, the family of
Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33
[003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee
and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all
nations.
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3:42

[007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee above


(other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have
spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of
those who give thanks."
7:144

[022:075] God chooses messengers from angels and from men
for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75
[035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our
Servants as We have chosen : but there are among them some
who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and
some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the
highest Grace.
35:32

[038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect
and the Good.
38:47
[039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could
have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth
create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the
One, the Irresistible.
39:4

Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come,
he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one
knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD
Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an
ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:
1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the
husband and the father).
2- Wali - Guardian.
In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-
equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD
Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such
as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually
married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-
adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like
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these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record
straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise,
why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons
and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD
Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty,
period!):
[005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God,
and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins?
Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom
He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God
belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is
between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
Again, please visit: http://www.answering-
christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203.

6- Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1] [2]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic
plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews
such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself
pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do
call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See
the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic
Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original
Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect,
which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original
and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence
Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the
following links:

(Click to play videos)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew


"Son of God" in ancient times meant no more than
a righteous Servant and Chosen one of GOD
Almighty:
The following links thoroughly refute the Christians' mistranslation in great
8/28/2014 Answering Trinity
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 33/42
details:
"Son of God" in ancient times meant no more than a righteous
Servant and Chosen one of GOD Almighty:

Christians themselves don't even know how to define "Son of
God". They say it means "Yahweh the Son". Yet, Jesus
Christ reduced his title to be even below the average believer's
"God" title. Watch the following 8-minute video to see how
Jesus reduced his title "Son of God" to be even below the
average believer's "God" title. Also, the Bible defines "Son of
God" to mean "Righteous Servant of GOD":
Did Jesus claim to be God? (8 minutes)


The Bible directly claims that ANY "Son of GOD" is a
"God"! (Refutation to Jesus' being God meaning that he is GOD
Almighty).

"Son of GOD" conflict between the Bible and the Noble
Quran.

The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

Son of GOD: Some Muslims' Misconception.

"Son of Man" does not mean "GOD" or "Son of GOD".

Can we trust the Son of Man?

Does calling Jesus "Son of God" prove that he is GOD?

"Son of God" literally means "Servant of God" in Hebrew.
Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity and today's
wrong and twisted translations of "Son of God".

Obvious mistranslations of the Hebrew Manuscripts. See
proofs of alterations and deceptions done by the Jews and
Christians to disprove Islam in the Bible.

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "The Incomprehensible Nature of
God and his Son" article. Thoroughly refuting and exposing
Sam Shamoun's trinity-lies and absurdities in Proverbs 30:4
where he tried to falsely prove trinity through it.

8/28/2014 Answering Trinity
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 34/42
My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "How can Jesus be God when
the Hebrew Bible says God is not a man?" article.

Answering Jeremiah 23:5-6: A big blow to Sam Shamoun's
trinity nonsense existing in the Old Testament.

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Refuting Osama Abdallah on
Jeremiah 23:5-6" article.

What is the best way to convert non-Muslims to Islam?


Conclusion:
I hope that I was able to help you notice that the Bible uses titles such as God, King, Lord, and Prince
to so many people on so many occasions. Many people before and after Jesus were named "Godly"
names such as "Jehovah is Great (Gedaliah)" and the many others that were shown above. We as
intelligent readers and truth seekers must not take everything in the Bible so literal. It is wrong, and
misleading to do so. We have to watch out from dangerous misleading "Godly" titles that are given to
people throughout the Bible. It's unfortunate that such titles are used in the Bible to magnify and
glorify people. It certainly had caused so much confusion among Christians, and human beings
throughout history, and it is the main reason for today's many divisions and sects in the religion of
Christianity.
The major difference between Christianity and Islam is that in Islam, there is no mediator between you
and your Creator, which makes perfect sense! In Christianity, believing in the Almighty GOD alone is
not enough. It won't save you. You must believe in Jesus dying for your sins to be a Christian, and to
be then saved.
This whole theory however is based on a Bible that is for the most part extremely doubtful. Please visit
Just who were the real authors of the Bible? to see it for yourself. The Gospels and Books of today are
not reliable and no one knows who in the world wrote them. I have actual quotes from the NIV Bible's
commentary admitting to the historical corruption of the Bible.
So to base a dangerous belief such as "Trinity" on doubtful book like this is very dangerous for you.
Especially when knowing that the word "Trinity" doesn't even exist in the Bible. I mean, if "Trinity" is
supposed to be the central and the back bone for Christianity and for defining the deity of GOD, then
don't you think that it should at least exist once in the Bible?
Otherwise, if I were to take your interpretations, that GOD is multiple entities in One, then GOD can't
just be three. He could be 2 (father and son only), or three (father, son, and holy spirit or ghost), or even
four (as the bible never really gave any specific number for this hoax theory of GOD being multiple
gods in one).
Please spare yourself from giving me 1John 5:7 as a proof for trinity, because this verse was proven to
be a satanic lie inserted into the bible. This is something discovered and proven by Christian
theologians themselves and most of the bibles of today don't have that verse in them. Please visit The
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http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 35/42
lie of 1John 5:7.
Allah Almighty said in the Holy Quran (The Muslims Holy Book): "Indeed they reject the truth, those
that say "God is Christ, the son of Mary." For indeed, Christ said, worship God, who is my God and
your God." (The Holy Quran, 5:72).
Please visit:
My library on Answering Trinity which contains many articles that refute Trinity.
The Bible predicting the coming of Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) by his name
History of man's corruption in the Bible.
What language did Jesus really speak during his ministry?
Ask me any question.
Answering Trinity. Jesus was not the Creator of the Universe.
Allah, Islam, Quran, Muhammad questions and answers.
What is the place of Jews, Christians and non-Muslims in Islam?
Muhammad was foretold in the Bible by Isaiah, John and Jesus.
Does the Bible really claim that the Jews are GOD's "Chosen People"? See how Moses, Jesus and
several other Prophets in the Bible never liked the Jews, and how the Jews had corrupted the Bible.
Do People and Angels bowing down to Jesus in Worship really prove that he is the Creator of the
Universe?
Jesus saying "I and the Father are One."
Jesus saying "I am"
GOD Almighty had many Sons in the Bible before Jesus.
Did Jews continually try to stone Jesus prove that he claimed to be GOD?
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you very much for taking the time to read my paper. I
wish it was helpful and useful for you in your journey in seeking and learning about the truth of the
Almighty God. May God bless you all the way.


My comments on Answering-Islam's Trinity beliefs and theories:
Exposing the lies of the Answering Islam Team. I have "jpg" image picture that expose the frustration
of the Answering Islam team.
8/28/2014 Answering Trinity
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 36/42
My library on Answering Trinity which contains many articles that refute Trinity.
Please visit my response: Part 1.
Please visit brother Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi's response. Part 2. (a great rebuttal page that presents
Greek and Hebrew arguments that refutes trinity).
Please visit my third response: Part 3.
Rebuttal to the "Allah originated from pagan gods" article. This is a great article that refutes that lie
against Islam.
Rebuttal to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him prescribing camel urine as medicine.
Rebuttal to the lie about the Arabic name "Eesa (Jesus)" originating from Hindu and Pagan gods.
Jesus' original name is Eesa. See detailed proofs from Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic.
Rebuttal to the lie about Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him being always influenced by magic.
Please visit my fourth response: The lie of 1 John 5:7.
The lie of 1 John 5:7 and Timothy 3:16.
Almost every single Christian is going to hell according to the Bible.
Prophecy about Muhammad in Song of Songs 5:16. Exposes the deliberate mistranslation of the Verse
to disprove the coming of Muhammad peace be upon him.
The Gospel of John: Gospel or Gossip?
The "God" title in Isaiah 9:6 was given to others as well.
The original Bible was lost! See comments from the NIV Bible itself. No one ever claimed
ownership of the current Gospels. The owners/writers are unknown.

See Also:
The "Son of God" Title in the 1 John 2:22
What is the best way to convert non-Muslims to Islam?
Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT, using Jesus' words
himself!

Also:
8/28/2014 Answering Trinity
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 37/42

From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

Father and Son Definitions:
Definition of Key Terms (a discussion between me and a Christian):
1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam?
(see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?
3- Jesus had to at least match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power. See this
text-debate between me and a Christian brother.
4- Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus? Yes it does.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2]
[3])."

Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will with ample verses.

In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:
(a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like
unto anyone or anything.
(b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings
that were made by the Word and the Spirit.
(c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water
physical world and Universes (plural).
Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?


"Father" and "Son" in Islam and the Bible:
5- Is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are
some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON":
(a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian
():
See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say
, which means "The Legal Guardian". is derived
from the root word . also means a chosen friend to
Allah Almighty, as in the following point.
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http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 38/42
(b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (,
and ):
We further read the following in the Bible:
Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your
people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your
friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and
it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's
friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD
Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy
Quran:
[002:257] Allah is the friend () and patron of those who believe.
He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those
who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead
them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be
the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart
(and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and
Protector ()? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their
trust!
[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his
whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true
in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend ().
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is
clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious
Quran uses for these words and definitions:
http://www.answering-
christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203

(c)- BEGET = CHOSE:
Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:
King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me,
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Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32,
38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:
[027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He
has chosen (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the
false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59
[003:033] God did choose Adam and Noah, the family of
Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33
[003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee
and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all
nations.
3:42

[007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee above


(other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have
spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of
those who give thanks."
7:144

[022:075] God chooses messengers from angels and from men
for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75
[035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our
Servants as We have chosen : but there are among them some
who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and
some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the
highest Grace.
35:32

[038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect
and the Good.
38:47
[039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could
have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth
create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the
One, the Irresistible.
39:4

Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come,
he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one
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knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD
Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an
ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:
1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the
husband and the father).
2- Wali - Guardian.
In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-
equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD
Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such
as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually
married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-
adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like
these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record
straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise,
why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons
and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD
Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty,
period!):
[005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God,
and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins?
Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom
He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God
belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is
between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
Again, please visit: http://www.answering-
christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203.

6- Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1] [2]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic
plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews
such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself
pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do
call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See
the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic
Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original
Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect,
which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original
and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence
Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the
following links:

8/28/2014 Answering Trinity
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 41/42
(Click to play videos)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew


"Son of God" in ancient times meant no more than
a righteous Servant and Chosen one of GOD
Almighty:
The following links thoroughly refute the Christians' mistranslation in great
details:
"Son of God" in ancient times meant no more than a righteous
Servant and Chosen one of GOD Almighty:

Christians themselves don't even know how to define "Son of
God". They say it means "Yahweh the Son". Yet, Jesus
Christ reduced his title to be even below the average believer's
"God" title. Watch the following 8-minute video to see how
Jesus reduced his title "Son of God" to be even below the
average believer's "God" title. Also, the Bible defines "Son of
God" to mean "Righteous Servant of GOD":
Did Jesus claim to be God? (8 minutes)


The Bible directly claims that ANY "Son of GOD" is a
"God"! (Refutation to Jesus' being God meaning that he is GOD
Almighty).

"Son of GOD" conflict between the Bible and the Noble
Quran.

The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

Son of GOD: Some Muslims' Misconception.
8/28/2014 Answering Trinity
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm 42/42

"Son of Man" does not mean "GOD" or "Son of GOD".

Can we trust the Son of Man?

Does calling Jesus "Son of God" prove that he is GOD?

"Son of God" literally means "Servant of God" in Hebrew.
Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity and today's
wrong and twisted translations of "Son of God".

Obvious mistranslations of the Hebrew Manuscripts. See
proofs of alterations and deceptions done by the Jews and
Christians to disprove Islam in the Bible.

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "The Incomprehensible Nature of
God and his Son" article. Thoroughly refuting and exposing
Sam Shamoun's trinity-lies and absurdities in Proverbs 30:4
where he tried to falsely prove trinity through it.

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "How can Jesus be God when
the Hebrew Bible says God is not a man?" article.

Answering Jeremiah 23:5-6: A big blow to Sam Shamoun's
trinity nonsense existing in the Old Testament.

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Refuting Osama Abdallah on
Jeremiah 23:5-6" article.

What is the best way to convert non-Muslims to Islam?

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