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ALEXANDRIA LIGHTHOUSE FINDINGS IN 1994

L: Doctor Khalil, please tell about Alexandria lighthouse, how you find it in 1991?
E.K. : Actually it was 1994, but of course we looked at the site before. We knew from previous docu-
ments, from Egypt history, from sport diver, from early documents in 20 century about something that
there are some underwater archeology in this area. But none started in detail it before. So in 1994 group
of specialists emerged and started its project to explore all the remain in this area.
L: Was it initiated by community, by public organization (as it says in internet people of Alexandria
sounds alert of placing consort) or was it initiated by government?
E.K.: No, it was initiated by the French Centre of Alexandrian studies, directed by the French professor
Jean-Yves Empereur
L: Who was initiated the search as a personal, or a coordinator, head of a project?
E.K.: The idea started because government, Egypt government wanted to protect area around fortress
near the city. And there was a construction plan for placing block of concrete in the water to prevent
damage from waves, and protect citizen and ground and underwater heritage near fortress. So, before
placing blocks in the water, we want to make sure that there is nothing underneath the blocks that could
be damaged by this. So this is how the started the project.
L: I will insist once more - because it is very interesting to know the name do unnamed hero who was
initiate this careful idea of look underwater before placing blocks, or was it idea ha come out from many
people in one moment?
E.K.: Please understand - people knew that underwater archeology things is placed at that place - but
no one realized how much and how big they are. People see 2-3 statues, but without digging and look
specialist at this place.
L: And one can imagine how much archeology artifact down there?
E.K. : Absolutely - nobody see or think about. Group started with mostly French group with few spe-
cialists of Egyptian archeologists, someone from government, some archeologists from University, group
of volunteers and me.
L: Who was you at this moment?
E.K. I was just a diver-specialist to this moment and was asked by French specialist to be involved in
process.
L: You was a diver to this moment?
E.K. Yes. I was many years diver to this moment.
L: When you started to dive?
E.K.: I started diving in 1987
L When you understand that site near fortress o fKateBay is really Lighthouse place? On which day of
expedition?
E.K.: We started April 1994. It was 24 of April as i recall it.. It was the first season only. And in the first
day, at the frist dive we found may be 6 or 7 statues including huge one which is stand in fro of Alexan-
dria. During next dives we found hundreds of columns, blocks and statues.
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L: Magazines wrote that this is Poseidon, God that Stratus placed in top of lighthouse ?
E.K. No, no. This is one of the Ptolemie from the Hellenistic Kingdom in Egypt, we believed it could be Ptolemy the II who
built the Lighthouse.
L.: So, what is exactly date you realized this place with statues is lighthouse?
E.K.: Well, we khow that Lighthouse is close to the port of Alexandria, close to this location, and we also knew from
ancient history that lighthouse was hit by two earthquakes in 4 century AD and 14 century AD. This two lighthouse hit it and
destroyed it.
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So, we knew that there were no big striation except the Phaross Lightjouse in this area. And this big statues shoal belong
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lighthouse, or least most of them belong to lighthouse.
L: So it was amazed after remember and archives - but you did not believe at the first moment?
E.K. Yes, it was amazing what we find underwater. First impression was that we ust found few statues near to port and
KateBay fort. In 1962 British archeologist. Very famous archeologist Dr. Honor Frost. She came and visited Alexandria, and
even dived at this site. After that there was published an article in saying that she saw about 13 statues only underwater.
L: I red a paper that an Egyptian diver sportsman was a first whose see big statue in the water?
E.K.: Yes, he was a first man. And we even have a map with draft and hand made. Very simple map of what he found under-
water. But mostly precised place of big statue position. It was in 1962 also. We used his map as well. But of course we found
many things more that was mentioned in the map.
L: What did you do first season?
E.K. We have plastics signs. Special archeology sign, that should be position at the all artifacts. And I think all 1st season
we do only that. Just putting numbers. number. and numbers. We should account how many, there and what precisely is
positioning underwater. Lot of them, I think over 3000.
L: Fro myself and readers of the magazine - season is ho much months?
E.K. For that season as far as i remember It was like 2 or 3 months. And finished maybe June or July. But after that every
year the French work group work at the site.
L.: Interesting. Can I ask - why French group? Egypt government did not provide you with the resources? or what?
E.K. Yes, a French group worked in Egypt in many many years, and we have very good relation with us. They helping us
carefully excavating the Egyptian sites. And many of the sites, not only this site. Many, many other sites.
L.: They do only science work? What was their interest? Friday 5
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E.K.: Yes, scientific mission. Ordinary scientific mission. They can not take any artifact out of Egypt
L.: So. time is going. !st year, 2nd year. What was the most interesting case at this site?
E.K. : First 5 minutes of diving was most expressive. We found lot of big statues.
It was very exciting than we found Sphinxes.
And more statues.
Huge colums. Massive capitals. It was very unusual underwater.
L.: And what was the weather and stage of water at this period? Gods helped you?
E.K.: Usually the weather at this site is not bad. It is stable weather. Ussually. April. May. June. So we used work everyyear
at this time.
L.: But you remember what was at the first dives weather?

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L.: But you remember what was at the first dives weather?
Happening In Greece
E.K.: Yes, of course. it was nice. Very nice. As far as I remember it was very nice.
L.: You can see very good. Water is transparent. Two internationally distinguished leaders in management, Dr. Tom Peters and Professor Richard
Boyatzis, will speak at the Greek Leadership Congress, organized by the Association of Chief
E.K.: No!! The water near this site and Alexandria not good even at this time. It is 3-4 meters. You should remember that.
Executive Officers on Tuesday, May 9 2006. The Greek Leadership Congress has been established
L.: Yeah. yeah. That why I also mentioned about it - it is not easy to see something even at good weather. It is like Black Sea,
as the most important event on management in Greece. It is addressed to businessmen and com-
in some feature much worse thatn Black sea. pany executives.
E.K. 3-4, maximum 5 meters.
L.: And everything is green and yellow. )) You shoal visit Black Sea some day
E.K. Smile Monday 8 th

L.: But it is very nice and avery sensitive place.

E.K. Unfortunately and fortunately. Marine Tourism Plan
L.: I have information from internet and ESP that was with me, that there were a much older place and strcture here before
Tourism Minister Fani Palli-Petralia on Sunday announced a new programme to boost marine tourism.
Alexandria lighthouse? Under the plan, a map will be drawn up linking areas of historical and cultural value that will
E.K. Yes. be provided with yachting access, the minister told a meeting of the National Tourism Council held
L.Yes? on the island of Poros. She noted that priority would be given to 16 sites classified by UNESCO as
E.K. Yes, we know about it. But there is no artifact facts, just information from winless from ancient paper. (Explaning which world heritage, including Mycenae and the old city of Rhodes.
historical evidence) In addition, a specialized publicity campaign for marine tourism would be slotted into the minis-
try’s overall drive to promote Greece abroad, the minister added. According to ministry data,
L. But you do not have artifacts?
Greece holds a 5% share of the cruise market in Europe, which the government hopes to increase.
E.K. Not found yet. May be we will find sometime.
L.: Ok. Pleas tell about your Center of Maritime archeology, Faculty of Arts. What do you want to tell Russian readers Greece - Egypt: Gas and Oil
E.K. It is the only centre in Africa and the Arab World for the study of Underwater archaeology. It is open for students from Greece and Egypt on Sunday sealed a cooperation agreement in the natural gas and oil sectors that
all over the world and it gives Diploma and MA degrees in Maritime Archaeology and Underwater Cultural Heritage. For more places emphasis on research and exploration. “This is a historic agreement. The two countries,
information you can visit our sites at (www.foa.edu.eg/cma) 
 which are laying the foundations for a new era and opening new avenues in their energy ties, have
LEONID GAV, leo.gav@gmail.com high expectations of it,” visiting Development Minister Dimitris Sioufas said in Cairo.
Under the terms of the two-year pact, a joint committee will be set up to assess the viability of
selling and transporting Egyptian natural gas to Greece by means of a pipeline, and from there,
to other European countries. Greece is being transformed into a natural gas transportation chan-
nel from output countries in the wider region to major European consumption centres.

European Social Forum’s Anti-war Pledge

The 4 European Social Forum that took place in Athens renewed its pledge on Sunday to mobilize
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for a complete withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and avert a new war in Iran. At the
end of its four-day meeting, the alter-globalization Forum repeated its opposition to the occupa-
tion of the Palestinian territories and its backing for nuclear disarmament, also calling for
the elimination of military bases in Europe. The Forum announced a week of action from 23 to 30
September 2006 and appealed for a international day of action on October 7, 2006 in Europe and
Africa.

A Gold Medal for Greece

Vlasios Maras on Sunday won the gold medal for horizontal bar in the men’s European gymnastics
championships held in Volos. Maras’ routine gained the top mark of 15.725. Taking the silver was
Russian Sergei Khorokhordan and the bronze, Christoph Schaerrer of Switzerland.

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floor of the northern building of
the Faculty of Arts. It consists
of two lecture rooms equipped
with interactive smart boards, a
specialised library, a computer
laboratory equipped with twenty
PCs, a conservation training
laboratory in addiction to a
storage space where the div-
ing, photography and excavation
equipment are kept. The centre
also owns a 6m Rigid Inflat-
able Boat which would be used
for training and research. It
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also has a waterfront facility
overlooking the Eastern Harbour
of Alexandria where practical
sessions will take place.

Emad Khalil, Archeologist: www.foa.edu.eg/cma

“Laboratory K” - group of profes-

sional researchers, in which number
of ESP, carrying out on search of
objects.
*analysis of аn information and
decision-making on the further study-
ing of the phenomenon.
*analysis of experts of laboratory by
maps, photos and other materials
*work as research groups, geologists
*saving artefacts of a civilisation,
*video-documenting eyewitnesses,
record of stories, gathering and data
processing about phenomena and the
Leonid Gav, Archeologist
phenomena
*production of scientifically-documen-
tary films
*receiving information on the phenom-
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*laboratory can transfer into place
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Must See In Greece
The Sporades islands complex stretches out into the Aegean, east of the Pelion peninsula. On the
serene Sporades, life still continues along its old rhythms. Tourism has brought prosperity to
these islands without affecting much of their traditional lifestyle, especially on the island of
Alonissos (www.alonissos.gr).
The National Marine Park of Alonissos - unique in Greece - has been created for the protection of
the Mediterranean “monk” seal and protects several other rare species of sea life.
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Tourism Investment a Top Priority
The government has set priority on attracting tourism investment to Greece and boosting business
activity in the sector, Tourism Minister Fani Palli-Petralia said on Tuesday. “Already we have
‘unblocked’ investment efforts that are linked to the development law and the (EU) Third Community
Support Framework. Concerning the investment law, five-start hotels will be financed throughout
Greece, except Athens and Thessaloniki,” she noted. The use of funding from the Fourth Community
Support Framework includes plans for the creation of a reception center for investment proposals and
business plans at the tourism ministry.
The government has forged a long-term policy to tone up demand in tourism products, strengthen sup-
ply, and improve services. Legislative bills on spa tourism and agro-tourism are in their final phase
and a call centre is being created to answer visitors’ queries in several languages.
The Iranian Nuclear Issue
Following a meeting with Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis, Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Lari-
jani reiterated in Athens yesterday that his country does not seek to develop nuclear weapons or
include such weaponry in its defence dogma. Bakoyannis stressed that Greece - which is currently a
non-permanent member of the United Nations’ Security Council (UNSC) - backs both the International
Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the Security Council’s processes to defuse the ongoing crisis. She
emphasized the government’s “sincere expression of its positions” revolving around the need for
nuclear non-proliferation. She also said Athens believes the UNSC and IAEA have a “crucial role”
to play in the matter, while underlining that the Greek government is aligned with the positions of
its partners.
International Distinction for Hellas Sat
Managing Director of Hellas Sat, Christodoulos Protopapas, has been elected as vice president of the
European Satellite Operators Association (ESOA). According to the company, the election constitutes
“confirmation of the strengthened position” held by Greece in European space technology. The ESOA
plays an important role in shaping European space policy and represents the interests of satellite
organizations in decisions on regulations, political and commercial issues in the space technology
sector.
The Peloponesse University in Kalamata in cooperation with the American, Canadian and Australian
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Federations and the World Confederation of Messinians Abroad have organized Greek language summer les-
sons for students (aged 14 to 23) and teachers.
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Competitiveness of Economy Rises
Greece’s standing in the world competitiveness table rebounded last year for the first time since
2001, the International Institute for Management Development says in its World Competitiveness
Yearbook 2006. Greece climbed to 42nd from 50th place in 2005 among 61 states and regions. The
country recorded improvements in the government efficiency index (climbing from 52 to 46), business
efficiency (to 47 from 49) and infrastructure (to 33 from 37), but the economic performance index
remained unchanged, ranking 49 .th
Development Minister Dimitris Sioufas said that Greece managed to improve its position in the
world competitiveness ranking, reversing a five-year decline. He added that this year’s report
was the first to solely present figures from the current government’s tenure and Greece surpassed
countries such as Portugal, Turkey, South Africa and Jordan, while it recorded the third biggest
annual improvement after China and India.
Tourism, exports and portfolio investments by foreign funds were the country’s main advantages,
the IMD said in its report. Greece ranked eighth among 61 countries in tourist activity as a per-
centage of GDP, and ninth in export of services, while also ranked 15th in foreign investments’
reserves in equities.
FM Met with Iran’s Nuclear Negotiator
Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis met with Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani on Tuesday, who
reiterated that his country does not seek to develop nuclear weapons or include such weaponry in
its defence dogma. Bakoyannis stressed that Greece, a non-permanent member of the UN Security
Council - backs both the International Atomic Energy Agency and the Security Council’s processes
to defuse the ongoing crisis.
Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Dora Bakoyannis Statements
Donation to the UN World Food Program
Deputy Foreign Minister Evripides Stylianidis signed a memorandum of cooperation on Thursday with
the UN’s World Food Program, and announced an additional 1.1-million euro donation, thus in-
creasing Greece’s contribution to international aid efforts, which total 1.7 million euros.
Greece to host OECD conference on SMEs
Development Minister Dimitris Sioufas and Economy and Finance Minister George Alogoskoufis are
key organizers in a program promoted by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Develop-
ment (OECD), in cooperation with New Zealand. The conference will focus on approving actions and
recommendations to abolish hurdles facing small and medium-sized enterprises in efforts to expand
activities in international markets. A total of 500 representatives from around 80 countries are
expected to participate in the conference.
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