Volume VII, Issue X1

1951-Sears, Roebuck & Co.

debuts Kaiser-built Allstate
1844-Karl Benz born
Karlsruhe, Germany
1900-Germany patents FWD
1960De Soto production
ends
- Time to prep for winters nap?
We have made it through
Columbus Day and Hallow-
een. It is now on to Thanks-
giving; unless you happen to
be Canadian. In that event
you have probably had your
fill of turkey!
Even though the calendar
says it is November, the lo-
cal temp today was in the
low 70s. In fact, this very
day, while on my daily walk, I
spoke to a guy out for a
drive in his 1962 Chevrolet
Impala convertible. It was
Coronna Cream in color,
with the factory white vinyl
top. There was no rust
whatsoever after 52 years
and 51 thousand miles. A
nice ride!
Speaking of rides, we have
an update on SAVED 62. It is
even a possibility that she
may be back in the Yaros
Car Barn by press time!
November Automotive Milestones
1895-1st U.S. auto
club formed
1st mag devoted to
motor vehicles pubd
("The Horseless Age")
1955-Studebaker Hawk
debuts
2008-CCC debuts
1935 Cord debuts 810
Fords Zephyr debuts
1863-James Ward
Packard born
1893- Edsel Ford born
1899-1st test run of
Packard's first car
1775-USMC celebrates
239th birthday!
1925Ford debuts Tri-
Motor airplane
1940-Jeep makes its
first appearance
1908-Olds joins GM
1914-1st Dodge rolls off
assembly line
1959-Ford ceases
Edsel production
1920-GM names Pierre
du Pont president
High RPMs
GDYNets on the Web
Find GDYNets on the web:
CCC -THE FORUM -A web
site to discuss the newsletter,
the hobby and our cars.
Car Collector Chronicles
Saved 62 -Our 1962 Olds
convertible, Ransom Eli Olds
and things Oldsmobile related
web site.
The Gray Lady -1955 Cadillac
Coup de Ville web site.
SAVED 62: A website devoted
to our 1962 Oldsmobile Dy-
namic 88 convertible. The site
also has a lot of information on
Oldsmobile cars and the com-
pany founder, Ransom Eli Olds.
THE GRAY LADY: This web-
site features our 1955 Cadillac
Coup de Ville, lots of Caddy
information and an extensive
repair library.
DAVES DEN: -A site de-
voted to a myriad of interests.
Foremost is extensive informa-
tion on the Steel City of Gary,
IN. There are also offerings on
steel making, U.S. Steel-Gary
Works, U.S. Marine Corps, M14
assault rifle, of course Oldsmo-
bile, and the tragic story of the
murder of Gary, IN Police Lt.
George Yaros.
A GDYNETS
PUBLICATION

2014, G. DAVID
YAROS. ALL
RIGHTS RESERVED.
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Chronicles

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Reports From the Field
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Allant (1987-1993)
Corvair (1960-1969)

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GDY Nets
On the Web

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SAVED 62 Saga


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Info You Can Use 3
BCI Battery Chart 4
Pics That Caught
My Eye
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I am in regular communication with the shop working on my car. I also want to point
out that these communications are initiated by the shop, not by me. That is a sign of a
good operation in my opinion.
The day after dropping my car off I received this email from the shop:
Dave,

Bumper is at chrome shop. On the body the hammer and dolly work
is complete and seam has been welded.

Chrome shop is going to straighten bumper and bring it back for
a trial fit before plating. BTW: Bumper has been repaired in
the past on same side.

Have a good weekend.

Considering they only had the car for 24 hrs. that is pretty good service!

Then on 21 Oct this communication came in:
Hi Dave,

Car is painted and ready to assemble. We had the chrome shop
bring the bumper back to us after it was straightened so that we
could fit it. That is done and the bumper is back at the
platers going through the copper plating process at this time.
The bumper had several previous repairs, several of which were a
bit iffy. They are going to do a fair amount of copper cladding
and then polishing to copper to build up some of the flawed ar-
eas. It will then be nickel and chrome plated. Hoping to get
the bumper back next week. Will keep you informed.

The platers gave me a price based on doing the repairs that sur-
passed the original estimate. I have talked to Tom Polster, the
adjuster, and it appears that there will be no problem getting a
supplemental payment (from Hagerty) for the increase.

Best regards,

A couple of points here: The damage appraiser Hagerty sent out estimated the
bumper repair at $489.00. I knew that figure would never fly. The actual cost turned
out to be $896.61.
Even at that cost, it is still quite a bargain. I say this as I have in-hand a quote from
an online verdor, billionsandtrillionsinc.com , which reads:
We have your 1962 Olds rechromed rear bumper in stock. It will
cost $1,850.00. Please give us a call at 918-291-nnnn to discuss
further. Thank you and have a great day!

I was not aware of prior bumper repairs, let alone iffy repairs. I am now. Having
dealt with Bennett Coachworks before, I know I can take their word as gospel when it
comes to my rides. Perhaps my bumper is a replacement for the one installed at the
factory? Makes me wonder.
Needless to say, I am anxious to get Saved 62 home. Anxious even though when she
returns Ill have to put her in hibernation for the upcoming winter. Rest assured, come
spring well be ready to hit the road and rack up a few miles of top down motoring!
Saved 62 Saga
Car Collector Chronicles Page 2
We have your
1962 Olds
rechromed
bumper in
stock. It will
cost
$1,850.00!
Info You Can Use
Recently I came across a couple of items that I hope will be both of interest and value.
It is the kind of stuff one does not spend a lot of time thinking about, but when you need it,
you need it now. Hopefully you will be able to save it, and have it for your future reference
when that time comes.
The first item has to do with, of all things white wall tires. Creation of the whitewall tire is
credited to the Vogue Tire & Rubber Co. of Chicago. They made the first such tire in
1914. The white color results from adding zinc oxide to the chemical mix for traction. In
1934 Ford began offering whitewall tires as an $11.25 option on all its new cars. By the
80s they were a thing of the past. Can you imagine trying to keep whitewalls clean today
on a car with front disc brakes!
I hear you saying, what possible information about white wall tires could I need or want?
Have you ever considered how many different widths of white wall you have seen on tires?
Have you ever considered which width was used in what era? Well, that just might be in-
formation you can use; now and in the future. While I do not vouch for the accuracy of the
data, in the hopes it is of value to our readers, CCC herewith presents the white wall width
by era chart:

Traditional Whitewall Widths

ERA WIDTH
Pre-1954 3" whitewall or more
'54 thru '56 2 1/2" - 2 11/16"
'57 thru '61 2 1/4" - 2 1/2"
'62 thru '64 1" whitewall or less

Now, there is the matter of
car batteries. There are more
sizes and shapes than one
may hope to ever comprehend.
Why? It does make one won-
der, doesnt it?
Most automobile batteries
are indentified by group #.
Knowing the group # one may
determine the dimensions of
the battery. Knowing the bat-
tery case measurements one
may ascertain to which group it
belongs, or which group # will
work. Having the correct size
battery is critical when it comes
to things like the hood being
able to close, the battery being
able to be properly secured in
the tray and the cables being
able to reach the battery posts.
To that end, on the next page
CCC provides a BCI Battery
Group Chart showing common
batteries and group #s . For a comprehensive (lengthy) listing in .pdf format go here

Can you
imagine
trying to keep
whitewalls
clean on a
car with front
disc brakes!
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Info You Can UseContd.
BCI Group #s, Dimensions, Polarity & Terminals

Group L" W" H" Lmm Wmm Hmm Figure Polarity Terminals
22F 9.50 6.90 8.30 240 175 211 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
22NF 9.40 5.50 8.90 240 140 227 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
24 10.30 6.80 8.90 260 175 225 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
24F 10.30 6.80 8.90 260 175 225 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
25 9.10 6.90 8.90 230 175 225 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
26 8.20 6.90 7.80 208 175 197 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
26R 8.20 6.90 7.80 208 175 197 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
26 - 70 8.20 6.90 7.80 208 175 197 10 & 17 C-LINE TOP & SIDE
27 12.10 6.80 8.90 306 175 225 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
27F 12.10 6.80 8.90 306 175 225 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
29NF 13.00 5.50 8.90 330 140 227 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
33 13.30 6.80 9.40 338 173 238 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
34 10.30 6.80 7.90 260 175 200 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
34R 10.30 6.80 7.90 260 173 200 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
34 - 78 10.30 6.80 7.90 260 175 200 10 & 17 C-LINE TOP & SIDE
35 9.10 6.90 8.90 230 175 225 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
36R 10.40 7.30 8.10 263 183 206 19 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
40R 10.90 6.90 6.90 278 175 175 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
41 11.60 6.90 6.90 293 175 175 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
42 9.60 6.80 6.80 243 173 173 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
43 13.10 6.90 8.00 334 175 205 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
45 9.50 5.50 9.00 240 140 227 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
46 10.80 6.80 9.00 273 173 229 9 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
47 9.70 6.90 7.50 246 175 190 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
48 12.10 6.90 7.60 278 175 190 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
48/91 12.10 6.90 7.60 306 175 192 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
49 13.90 6.90 7.60 353 175 190 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
50 13.50 5.00 10.00 343 127 254 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
51 9.40 5.10 8.80 238 129 223 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
51R 9.40 5.10 8.80 238 129 223 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
52 7.30 5.80 8.30 186 147 210 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
53 13.00 4.70 8.30 330 119 210 14 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
54 7.30 6.10 8.40 186 154 212 19 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
55 8.60 6.10 8.40 218 154 212 19 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
56 10.00 6.10 8.40 254 154 212 19 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
57 8.10 7.20 6.90 205 183 177 22 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
58 10.10 7.20 6.90 255 183 175 26 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
58R 10.10 7.20 6.90 255 183 175 19 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
59 10.10 7.60 7.80 255 193 196 21 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
60 13.10 6.30 8.90 332 160 225 12 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
61 7.60 6.40 8.90 192 162 225 20 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
62 8.90 6.40 8.90 225 162 225 20 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
63 10.20 6.40 8.90 258 162 225 20 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
64 11.70 6.40 8.90 296 162 225 20 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
65 12.10 7.50 7.60 306 190 192 21 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
66 12.10 7.60 7.60 306 192 194 13 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
70 8.20 7.10 7.30 208 179 196 17 L/H-POS SIDE
71 8.20 7.10 8.50 208 179 216 17 L/H-POS SIDE
72 9.10 7.10 8.30 230 179 210 17 L/H-POS SIDE
73 9.10 7.10 8.50 230 179 216 17 L/H-POS SIDE
74 10.30 7.30 8.80 260 184 222 17 L/H-POS SIDE
75 9.10 7.10 7.30 230 179 186 17 L/H-POS SIDE
76 13.10 7.10 8.50 334 179 216 17 L/H-POS SIDE
78 10.30 7.10 7.30 260 179 186 17 L/H-POS SIDE
79 12.10 7.10 7.40 307 179 188 35 L/H-POS SIDE
85 9.10 6.80 8.00 230 173 203 11 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
86 9.10 6.80 8.00 230 173 203 10 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
90 9.50 6.90 6.90 242 175 175 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
91 11.00 6.90 6.90 278 175 175 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
92 12.50 6.90 6.90 315 175 175 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
93 13.90 6.90 6.90 93 353 175 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
94R 12.40 6.90 7.50 315 175 190 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
95R 15.60 6.90 7.50 394 175 190 24 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
96R 9.60 6.20 6.90 242 173 175 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
97R 9.90 6.90 7.50 252 175 190 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
98R 11.20 6.90 7.50 283 175 190 15 R/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
99 8.20 6.90 6.90 207 175 175 34 L/H-POS TOP - SAE AUTO
100 10.30 7.00 7.30 260 179 188 35 L/H-POS SIDE
101 10.30 7.00 6.70 260 179 170 17 L/H-POS SIDE
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Pics That Caught My Eye

While it is not collector
car related it does deal
with transportation, and
you do have to admit it is
interesting!






The next one is in fact col-
lector car related. It is one
of a swap meet vendor and
his bud hawking his wares.


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my say for the
month. Now
its your turn! I
i n v i t e /
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