Subject: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by CristobalGordo on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:26:18 GMT

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Thanks for your help about the space necessary between things when you want to print
something that will spin. Anyway, I received my item and IT WORKED! Take a look and see
what you think (also it will put my question in context. This was printed as one piece in WSF. No
assembly required.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMwu0ZsG_3I
Don't worry it's only 23 seconds long.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by bitstoatoms on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:04:51 GMT
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Congratulations,
That is very cool

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by Drawn-SteelHero on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:16:38 GMT
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That is absolutely friggin' brilliant! Congratulations!
Andy

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Posted by Youknowwho4eva on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:23:16 GMT
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I saw this yesterday in my youtube scanning. Wonderful.

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Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by JRThro on Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:30:51 GMT
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CristobalGordo wrote on Tue, 17 August 2010 11:26Thanks for your help about the space
necessary between things when you want to print something that will spin. Anyway, I received my
item and IT WORKED! Take a look and see what you think (also it will put my question in context.
This was printed as one piece in WSF. No assembly required.)
That's absolutely amazing, especially if it's one of your first designs on Shapeways.
I'm still trying to get my head around making simple cylinders and things in openSCAD.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by CristobalGordo on Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:05:46 GMT
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Thank you.
If you are a student you may want to get your hands on a copy of Pro/E Student edition and also
by a book that takes you step by step through how to use it. Or you could try Google Sketchup
too. Again 3D design programs have a steep learning curve so you may want to go through one
or more tutorials to build up your skills. I've used OpenScad and it's OK. For this, I needed to
import a curve I had drawn with another program and then make a 3D object out of it. I'm not sure
if you can do that with OpenScad...yet. Maybe you can. They are working on it all the time, I
think. You want to save a lot with OpenScad because I found it has a tendency to crash every
now and again. It helps to learn more than one program anyway.
Bottom line though, I'm a big fan of books and step by step tutorials. There's no shame in starting
with something that's like "Here's how you make a cube...Here's how you put a hole in it.." 3D
design programs are really hard to jump in and learn on the fly. Many people use Blender (also
free) but to me, without having used it at all, it looks really intimidating. Once you get the basics
down well, they get much easier to use.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by JRThro on Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:03:11 GMT
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I've installed Blender, but it's incredibly counterintuitive to me. Granted, I haven't tried any of the
tutorials, but I have read some of the online documentation.

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OpenSCAD works for me because of the simple scripting it uses, and the online manual is fairly
straightforward.
I'm not a student, but thanks for the compliment! (Or maybe I just sound like I have no idea what
I'm doing?) I haven't been a student since 1981.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by CristobalGordo on Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:57:58 GMT
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I just mentioned the Student Edition because it is around $100 versus thousands for the full
version.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by JRThro on Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:06:25 GMT
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And I appreciate it.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by lensman on Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:25:28 GMT
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I'm afraid openSCAD lost me when I saw this on their Homepage:
OpenSCAD - The Programmers Solid 3D CAD Modeller
(my underlining)
....And I thought Blender was bad.... this looks horrendous. I think anyone starting out could do a
lot worse than to use SketchUp

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Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by JRThro on Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:49:58 GMT
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lensman wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 18:25I'm afraid openSCAD lost me when I saw this on
their Homepage:
OpenSCAD - The Programmers Solid 3D CAD Modeller
(my underlining)
....And I thought Blender was bad.... this looks horrendous. I think anyone starting out could do a
lot worse than to use SketchUp

I find openSCAD easy to use because I can work on a design one short statement at a time, and
then by adding statements, work toward the final design I actually want.
Take a look at my designs. There's nothing particularly complex, but all were done in openSCAD:
http://www.shapeways.com/mydesign#ug44715

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by CristobalGordo on Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:29:31 GMT
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I think you linked to my designs by mistake. I used Pro/E for them for what it's worth.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by JRThro on Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:12:44 GMT
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CristobalGordo wrote on Sat, 25 September 2010 09:29I think you linked to my designs by
mistake. I used Pro/E for them for what it's worth.
That's interesting, because when I click on the link, it goes to my designs.
Try clicking on the "Go to all my models" link instead.

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Posted by CristobalGordo on Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:12:26 GMT

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I figured it was something like that. I guess it goes to "my designs" for whichever account you're
logged into.

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by stonysmith on Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:07:50 GMT
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lensman wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 18:25I'm afraid openSCAD lost me when I saw this on
their Homepage:
OpenSCAD - The Programmers Solid 3D CAD Modeller
(my underlining)
....And I thought Blender was bad.... this looks horrendous. I think anyone starting out could do a
lot worse than to use SketchUp

That truly depends upon whether you're a programmer or not. I have been a TrueSpace user for
15 years and OpenSCAD "fits the way I think" so much more elegantly.
It also depends upon whether you're doing "organic" models or "technicial" models.. different
tools apply differently to each method.
This model was built entirely with OpenSCAD, in 246 lines of code:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/110195/old_tyme_store___zscal e.html?gid=ug4375
And the propeller in this model is only 25 lines of code:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/148488/propeller_load_for_fla
t_car___z_scale.html?gid=ug4375
Plus, it's parametric.. change one variable and it could be 3 blades or 12, change another variable
to get an entirely different pitch angle.
Yes.. if you're not a programmer, OpenSCAD is not for the faint of heart.
But.. there is nothing quite as satisfying as designing with for-next loops. (programmer joke)

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Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by WildRoo on Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:11:23 GMT
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What is the "Required minimum space" between moving parts?

Subject: Re: Rod and holes follow up

Posted by Drawn-SteelHero on Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:28:07 GMT
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I think it's generally considered that 0.6mm is the minimum clearance gap to leave if you want to
print moving parts in situ.
Andy

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