AFPAK Region

The AFPAK Region
By Asad Raheel on Thursday, 15 September 2011 at 00:46
The fol FIVE QUESTIONS appear to be pertinent...in context of the AFGHANISTAN War
Effort
a. What are/ were the OBJECTIVES
b. How many of these Objectives have been achieved?
c. Could these objectives have been achieved without actually going to WAR?
d. Was going to War INEVITABLE?
e. Was going to War VIABLE?
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Asad Raheel RESPONSE by BRIAN CUFFARI: A response to Asad's series of questions:

1) It is impossible for me to state the *actual* objective(s) of U.S. policymakers, but their
stated objectives were to remove a regime, the Taliban, that was providing sanctuary to...See
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Asad Raheel RESPONSE by LEO SAFAVID: I believe that if the offer to have Osama
removed from Afghanistan had been accepted, Taliban had continued to rule Afghanistan. I
am looking at the interests of Secularists in the region, and from that perspective, Taliban
ne...See More
Asad Raheel RESPONSE By ISMAIL BEY: Objective? How many have been achieved? To
eradicate al qaeda in Afghanistan & implement freedom for the masses. Successful?
Somewhat. Taliban is still around, but schools are flourishing as well. Women have some
emancipation, a...See More
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Asad Raheel RESPONSE By MEGAN S MILLS: Referring to Asad Raheel's questions:

Yanks did put squeeze on AQ, knocked out Taliban 'admin' of a stragegic area; kick started
new admin and economy; according to a Northern Alliance acquaintance to predict a US
effort 2 ye...See More
Asad Raheel RESPONSE By SENTHIL IND: The US invasion of Afghanistan is most

welcome activity! But not the US invasion of Iraq! The Taliban Govt were run by primitive
fools and hence US war on Afghanistan is totally valid. But, let us not get carried away with
the...See More
Asad Raheel Views of TARIQ ALI (UK based scholar of Pak Origin): As southern
Afghanistan collapses into chaos, and as corruption and massive inflation takes hold, the
Taliban is gaining more and more recruits. The generals who convinced Benazir that control
of Kab...See More
Asad Raheel http://english.aljazeera.net/.../09/201191418433383511.html.

US blames Haqqani network for Kabul attacks
US ambassador describes series of attacks in Afghan capital, in which at least 16 people died, as "not a very
big deal".
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Asad Raheel http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../story-e6frg6so....

Leon Panetta warns Pakistan on cross-border attacks
US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta showed frustration with Pakistan yesterday, warning that Washington
would not tolerate any more cross-border...
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Asad Raheel This HIGHEST SPANISH MILITARY AWARD was in recognition of Pakistan
Army's contribution in the fight against terrorism.
http://www.brecorder.com/.../27952-spain-confers-highest....
Spain confers highest military honour upon Kayani
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Earl M Cohen Much excellence here to read...will return to do so once I have more time.
On Senthil Ind's comment: though his comment holds worth, I do question the logic behind,
"The Taliban Govt were run by primitive fools and hence US war on Afghanistan is tota...See
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Earl M Cohen My prediction: the US will pull out of Afghanistan once the oil pipeline and
attendant infrastructure are put in place from Turkmenistan and Pakistan through Afghanistn
to the border of India and forces to protect the pipeline, rail lines, roadways, building, electric
grid, etc., have been sufficiently trained.
Earl M Cohen Yes, I do. It's of interest to big oil. The US military serves corporations
wherever force is needed to serve up and protect natural resources. Why do you think the US
has triangulated the region? ...See More
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Earl M Cohen Also, http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/06/05/memo

Al-Qaida: Al-Qaida monitored U.S. negotiations with Taliban over oil pipeline
A memo by military chief Mohammed Atef raises new questions about...
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Earl M Cohen the year indicates the time at which the information became known. Do you
think the US has since destroyed the infrastructure that went up? Do you think the knowledge
of interaction between the bush admin and taliban or that al queda knew what was go...See
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Earl M Cohen as to ISI and PK vs India remarks....why do you think they're "fishy"?
Earl M Cohen asia times and salon.com are credible sources, btw
Earl M Cohen Megan, please don't be distracted by my last remark in defense of my

sources. You might know something about ISI/PK/India of which I'm unaware. Luv FB ,
through which we can gather facts and expand our minds.
Megan S Mills no problem. One's antennae need to go up with mention of Indian 'intentions'
or implications of a threat to PK, as in bit on ISI. A tandard motif in PK media to keep
stressing an Indian bogeyman... when not an Israeli one (!)
Asad Raheel PM of Pakistan Fri 16 sep 2011: "Now its the time the US should DO MORE
http://www.dawn.com/.../pm-says-its-united-states-turn-to....
PM says its United States turn to do more
Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Friday said Pakistan had already contributed enormously in the fight
against terrorism and extremism, and...
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Ram Chandram they are doing much war. what more war does he want. lol
Asad Raheel http://ibnlive.in.com/.../us-threatens-pak.../825624.html.

US threatens Pak with sanctions over Iran gas pipeline deal, IBN Live News
Pakistan has reservations about the TAPI project due to security concerns...
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Earl M Cohen Megan, ah, I see....Yes, one must filter.

Asad Raheel The (US) COST of WAR: reportedly was a major factor as U.S. officials
considered drawing down troops in 2011. A March 2011 Congressional Research Service
report notes the following about Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) Afghanistan:
1) following the A...See More
Asad Raheel http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=114561.

Unreliable ally: Pakistan or America?
ISLAMABAD | LAHORE | PESHAWAR | ...
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Asad Raheel 17 Sep 2011 MEETING between US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral
Mike Mullen & Pak Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani in Seville, Spain, on the
sidelines of the ongoing Nato conference of DEFENCE CHIEFS.
http://tribune.com.pk/.../anti-terrror-cooperation-n.../.
Anti-terrror cooperation: N Waziristan remains key sticking point
Talks between Kayani and Mullen reveal differing approach to Haqqani network.
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Asad Raheel 17 Sep 2011 NATO DEFENCE CHIEFS MEETING at Seville SPAIN: Pak
Army Chief Gen Kayani told a foreign news agency that he doubted Afghanistan would be
ready for international troops to leave by 2014 as planned.
US Ambassador Cameron Munter upped the ante...See More
Kayani lays stress on national interest at Nato meeting
The COAS ruled out a full-scale action against the Haqqani network and doubted that Afghanistan would be
ready for international troops to leave by...
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Asad Raheel 17 Sep 2011 Article by Pak Journalist Aamir Mir in ASIA TIMES
Pakistan's security situation is in utter turmoil today. The highly-secured headquarters of the
army and navy, the offices of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), police stations, milita...See
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Alice Ina Code The objectives are OPIUM! .. this is Corporate not country orientated .. The
FDA is becoming a force of it's own and is controlling Armies!!
Ezaz Ahmed Oryo If we forget US retaliation & afganistan's strategic value, there r far more
things to b considered.
We cant forget the afgan society under taliban control. Only mentionable economical work is
opium trade, music, education prohibited, human right condi...See More
Alice Ina Code CIA took over the US military a few weeks ago!!
Asad Raheel A video of NATO soldiers CALMLY and EFFECTIVELY responding to the
attack suggests the insurgents were mightily overmatched by their opponents...(does this
exclude the possibility of this attack being PROMPTED?)
One conclusion we can draw with relative...See More
What We Still Don't Know About the Kabul Attacks - By Andrew Exum
Tuesday, Sept. 13's dramatic attack on the U.S. Embassy and NATO...
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Imtiaz Mahmood Ten years have now passed since many of us first felt the jolt of history
when the second plane crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center. We knew
from that moment that things can go terribly wrong in our worldnot because life is unfair,
or moral progress impossible, but because we have failed, generation after generation, to
abolish the delusions of our ignorant ancestors." - Sam Harris
Imtiaz Mahmood As the 'ghunda tax' revenue reduced recently; Pakistan Army is planning
additional revenue options:
http://www.dawn.com/.../evidence-ties-haqqani-group-to...
Evidence ties Haqqani group to Pakistan: Munter
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Brian Cuffari I commented in this thread about some of my many personal thoughts on the
ongoing occupation of Afghanistan. I felt it important to highlight, also, U.S. policy towards
Iran. Given the facts that the U.S. has heavily occupied two of Iran's neighbors ...See More
Brian Cuffari I know I changed subjects a bit, but I believe it is important to the overall
context of the war in Afghanistan. I don't believe we can properly look at the war in
Afghanistan without also looking at U.S. policies in the rest of the region.
Alice Ina Code I think US should stay in Afghanistan at the moment .. looks like a war is
going to break out between china/Pakistan and India! .. it's prophecised that India will win
this war in 2011-2012! Pakistan need to fix relationships with US and India and defuse the
Chinese hand in this!! Prophecy 2011 - 6 :
War could break out between India and Pakistan / China, India will win the war if it will
happen in 2011-2012.
Asad Raheel Several hours after the crash, the Pakistani army sent soldiers in to wrest it out
of militant hands, sparking a fight with the Taliban in which three militants were killed, said
the officials. Three militants and two soldiers were also wounded in the clash, they said.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Pak.../Article1-747244.aspx.
Pak troops battle Taliban for US drone debris - Hindustan Times
Pakistani soldiers have fought Taliban militants to seize precious debris from a...
HINDUSTANTIMES.COM|BY HINDUSTAN TIMES

Asad Raheel US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has pressed her Pakistani counterpart
Hina Rabbani Khar to take strong action against terrorist groups especially Lashkar-e-Toiba
and the Haqqani network, during their 3-1/2 hours of "very candid" meeting.
http://ibnlive.in.com/.../us-presses-pak.../185617-56.html.
US presses Pak to act against LeT, Haqqani
S Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has pressed her Pakistani counterpart Hina Rabbani Khar to take strong
action against terrorist groups especially...
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Asad Raheel Whereas in principle it has never declined to do so, the reason always cited by
Pak Army for not yet being able to take wholesome action against Taliban havens in FATA
(incl North Waziristan) is RESOURCE CONSTRAINT. In this light, it has hence been
its...See More
India, US urged to prepare for worst case Pakistan scenarios
Dawn.com is your source for the latest breaking news, current events and top...
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Brian Cuffari Hi Megan S Mills, sorry for my late response. I think Iran's fundamental
interest at this point (viewing this from their perspective and not my own) is to prevent the
NATO mission in Afghanistan from succeeding. U.S. intentions towards the Iranian re...See
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Brian Cuffari An example of what I view as an improved U.S. policy towards Iran would be
that of the Bushehr nuclear facility. Russia assists Iran in its production in this facility, and it
is open to international inspection. Granted, there have been many problem...See More
Asad Raheel In Afghanistan it is obvious that there is going to be no clear victor. The best
anybody can expect is that the blighted country will have some absence of war for a few
years, if not lesser.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\09\19\story_19-9-2011_pg3_3
Daily Times - Breaking News, Pakistan, World, Cricket, Entertainment and South
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Asad Raheel COMMENT by Humayun Afghan: Pakistan and its ISI intel agency has been
behind most of the world's terrorist attacks in that it has a vast array of terror groups it has
promoted as its proxies in deploying its Strategic Depth policy. There have now been ...See
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Asad Raheel COMMENT by Humayun Afghan: He never can. Neither will he do so

unofficially. If he even dares to he will get the military Establishments whiplash on his back.
Asad Raheel CLIP by Humayun Afghan: A few Facts of the War on

Terror...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQmez0L-uU
The Platform "13-09-11" Part 01
The Platform, Talk Show, International Forum.
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Asad Raheel Contnd...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZV26aeE1ZU&feature=related

The Platform "13-09-11" Part 02
The Platform, Talk Show, International Forum.
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Asad Raheel Ambassador Khalilzad indeed projects the matter...very well!

Asad Raheel http://ibnlive.in.com/.../26-shiites.../185956-56.html

26 Shiites killed in Pakistan by gunmen
Bike-borne unidentified gunmen on Tuesday shot dead at least 26 Shia Muslim pilgrims in cold-blood in
southwest Pakistan's Balochistan province after...
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Asad Raheel http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../rabbani-afghanistan...

Ex-President Of Afghanistan Burhanuddin Rabbani Killed: Report
By AMIR SHAH, Associated Press KABUL, Afghanistan -- Two Afghan...
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Humayun Kasi People forgot who this warlord Rabaani was. He was the President of
Afghanistan during the Civil war of 1992-1996. He was supporting each side which provided
his government some support. Now having his fellow warlords in the current regime, he was
out ...See More
Humayun Kasi Rajotavo DasGupta well like I said in my post the ISI will just wipe out any
one daring to negotiate with the Taliban on behalf of the Afghan Government. This is the
third example. Like I already said the Taliban second in command Mullah Biradar
vanish...See More
Asad Raheel The first question is: who to blame? The Taliban's usually smooth system for
claiming responsibility for attacks (SMSes, e-mails), for many hours remained silent. Their
first utterance claimed responsibly but said they would need a little longer to rev...See More
Humayun Kasi That is all just to give it a different color. rabbani had no such power
compared to Mujadidi or Fahim of Herat currently. Rabbani was more like a figurehead. Well
the strange thing is when the Norway attacks were being carried out all the AL Qaeeda
we...See More
Asad Raheel According to U.S. and Pakistani officials, the new compromise pact slashes the
number of U.S. forces allowed in Pakistan to between 100 and 150, nearly half of what it has
been in the past. The number of special operations trainers would fall from 140 to fewer than
10.
http://www.boston.com/.../ap_exclusive_us_pakistan_agree.../
AP Exclusive: US, Pakistan agree to limit troops
The United States and Pakistan have agreed to limit the number of American troops in that country, amid
frayed relations between the two nations and a...
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Humayun Kasi Well The Afghan Talibaan certainly will. So far they are being backed by the
Haqqani network for carrying out the attacks in Kabul, since Khalilzad said on the east they
reside on the border areas. Speaking of the down numbering the troops, well I am s...See More
Asad Raheel Yes...so many of these internet reports can hardly be relied upon...u often find
two extreme viewpoints...to pick & choose from!
Humayun Kasi Agreed and True. While for this reason I try to connect every dot I tend to
gather from the surroundings. For if I don't do that then like the majority of the Y generation,
i would be too opinion dependent on the Internet.

Asad Raheel ...the wiki LOVING youngsters...LOL!!
Asad Raheel http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../artic.../10052867.cms

Clashes sparked by Taliban attack leave 19 dead in Pakistan - The Times of India
At least 18 militants and a soldier were killed today in clashes that erupted...
TIMESOFINDIA.INDIATIMES.COM
Asad Raheel the CIA officially declined to comment on whether the meeting had taken
place. However, sources said the ISI boss had met with David Petraeus, CIA officials at the
CIA headquarters (on Tues 19 Sep) in Langley and separately with senior White House
officials at the Pak Ambassador's residence in Washington.
http://www.sananews.net/.../pasha-meets-petraeus-in.../
South Asian News Agency | Pasha meets Petraeus in Washington to discuss
Haqqani network
sana news deliver latest and breaking news in Urdu from Pakistan, World,...
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Asad Raheel Thurs 21 Sep: A top Pakistani military commander was lightly wounded
Wednesday when his helicopter came under fire in the Swat Valley, where the military fought
off a Taliban insurgency two years ago.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/.../pakistani-helicopter.../
Pakistani helicopter under fire, general wounded
ISLAMABAD (AFP) A top Pakistani military commander was lightly wounded Wednesday when his
helicopter came under fire in the Swat Valley, where the...
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Asad Raheel In what amounts to an ultimatum, administration officials have indicated that
the United States will act unilaterally if Pakistan does not comply.
The message, delivered in high-level meetings and public statements over the past several
days, reflects...See More
U.S. sharpens warning to Pakistan
The Obama administration has warned Pakistan that it must cut ties with a leading Taliban group based in
the tribal region along the Afghanistan border...
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Asad Raheel OPINION of the second largest oppositional armed group, Gulbuddin
Hekmatyars Islamic Party of Afghanistan: Foreign special services, first of all American
ones, can be traced back to the assassination of Afghan ex-President Burhanuddin Rabbani.
He believes that the situation of a controlled chaos is in the US geopolitical and financial
interests.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/09/21/56511351.html
Foreign special services involved in Rabbani's death - Afghan Islamic Party
Foreign special services, first of all American ones, can be traced back to the...
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Humayun Kasi Well Hekmatyaar is with the ISI so if this is an opinion this means there can
be no one else behind the killing as Hekmatyaar and his men are assisting the Taliban on the
orders of ISI..
Asad Raheel COMMENT by Imtiaz Hussain Mahmood

US ties filling of Pakistan's begging bowl to crack-down on Haqqani network, Qaeda and the
Quetta Shura the remains of the Afghan Taliban government overthrown and driven into
Pakistan by the 2001 US-led invasion of ...See More
US Senate ties Pakistan aid to Haqqani crackdown
A US Senate committee voted on Wednesday to make economic and security aid to Pakistan conditional on
its cooperation in fighting militants such as the...
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Humayun Kasi Well now the tide is changing. The killers of those Shia's in Mastung weren't
Pashtuns. They are from the terrorists outfits of Sipah e Sahaba. Same for other outfits,
starting from the top to the foot soldiers are Non-Pashtun. Even the ones who attack...See More
Humayun Kasi That is true Megan. Those who don't believe can come to Visit the Chaman
and the Spin Boldak areas on the Pakistani side of the border. Even in a village outside Spin
Boldak. They are guarded by the Local armed militia men who get their guns and cars f...See
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Lola Sovina Bad piece is always better than good war

Asad Raheel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haqqani_network

Haqqani network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Haqqani network is an independent insurgent group originating in Afghanistan that is closely allied with
the Taliban.[1]Maulvi Jalaluddin Haqqani...
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Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/story/258005/warning-bells-from-kabul/

Warning bells from Kabul
Agriculture, industries crippled, corruption, rich get richer, all is definitely not well in Land of the Pure.
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Ram Chandram Lola Sovina, how can war be good and peace be bad?
Leo Safavid War is a bloody business. Besides many other requirements, one of the essential
requirements from the warring parties is a will to fight till end. It also requires a willingness
to sacrifice lives in order to win. Allied Powers won two world wars be...See More
Megan S Mills welcome to the beautiful world of counterinsurgency post-1945. You have to
know who your allies are, objectives clear, and as you mentioned, be determined to see it
through... afraid I don't see Govt of Pakistan as a victim, and never will.
Leo Safavid Megan, they are all looking after their own interests. Pakistan has already
started planning for Afghanistan post USA.
Asad Raheel The Afghan Jehad against the Russians was a COVERT operation called
Operation CYCLONE, organised by the US (through three U.S. presidential administrations),
Pak, KSA & the Afghan Mujahideen in the 1980s. This operation has been written upon by
George ...See More
Asad Raheel That Pakistan is the country which shares the longest border with Afghanistan
its stakes in this country are the HIGHEST. Therefore, Pakistan seeking stability in its
backyard & counting also selectively upon the people & methods traditionally employed...See
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Asad Raheel The Relations between Pakistan & the Pak Taliban have NOT always been
comfortable rather they have often been problematic. A high percentage of the Taliban are
ethnic Pashtuns; whereas the Pashtuns are the majority (68%) in Afghanistan, they also are
a...See More
Asad Raheel POST by Brian Cuffari

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15024344
Pakistan 'supported' Kabul attack
The most senior US military officer accuses Pakistan's spy agency of supporting Afghanistan's Haqqani
group in last week's Kabul US embassy attack.
BBC.CO.UK
Lola Sovina Ram Truthseeker, a wise one can understand this ancient proverb
Asad Raheel The matter of Pakistan's alleged support to the HAQQANI NETWORK (which
allegedly is responsible for the recent Kabul attack) cannot be viewd in isolated context...it
has to be viewed in the history of the past 33 yrs details of which i have provided an...See
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Asad Raheel RESOLUTION

a. The need of the hour is for both allies (the US & Pak) to not lose nerve esp in the
frustration of inability to achieve higher war objectives...to not lose sight of the already
acheived objectives (arrest/killing of the top Al-quqeda le...See More
Leo Safavid I think it was the premature announcement of withdrawal by Obama, under
domestic political compulsion, which has resulted in the current problems. Pakistan has a
very India-centric foreign & defense policy. Its biggest fear is that after USA's exit, ...See More
Megan S Mills how can PK be taken seriously by Washington?

Leo Safavid I believe both Pakistan & Washington are only looking after their own interests
as per their foreign & defense policy objectives. I do not agree with the Pakistani policy
makers at all and nor do I agree with the short-term objectives of the Americans...See More
Megan S Mills I sometimes chat with people in diplomatic life who labour under an idea that
All Developing Countries are as bloody corrupt as PK with regard to Aid, agreements, what
is given vs. what is done with It -- as is patently false. Some of this contingent ...See More
Asad Raheel http://www.reuters.com/.../us-usa-pakistan...

Scenarios: U.S.-Pakistan ties dismal, but could get worse
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and Pakistan unleashed a war of words this week as
Washington accused Islamabad of involvement in attacks...
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Asad Raheel POST by Dorothea Ledinek

Only an insane person could think that Taliban, with Pan-Islamic ideology, would have
confined themselves within the boundaries of Afghanistan. Whatever the blurred border line
between Pakistan and Afghanistan exists presently ...See More
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Asad Raheel COMMENTS:

Ismail Bey Future scenario: US army pulls out of the region..China fills the void, as will
Russia now that Putin is seeking re election....See More
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Asad Raheel In line with the point of Ismail Bey...i wud like to highlight that China is
already a beneficiary of the Afghan war & without paying any bill. At least one incident (&
there are probably more) occured when ground Intelligence provided by the ISI led t...See
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Asad Raheel But blaming the Haqqani network is like using a kind of militancy shorthand,
as the much-used moniker fails to capture the complex nature of the politico-military
organization that is expanding its scope, network, and political aspirations
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/.../how-the-haqqani-network...
How the Haqqani Network is Expanding From Waziristan
The network of militants operating in Pakistan's tribal areas are playing an increasingly destabilizing role in
NATO's possible negotiations with the Taliban.
FOREIGNAFFAIRS.COM

Dorothea Ladynegg During my time in Pakistans Tribal areas, I saw no effort by Pakistani
security forces to confront the Haqqanis. Instead, Afghan Taliban, Pakistani Taliban and
foreign militants openly walked the streets of large towns, set off explosions during
bomb-...See More
Help Pakistan rein in the ISI
The opinions expressed are his own. Admiral Mike Mullens blunt declaration on Thursday that a Taliban
faction known as the Haqqani network was a...
REUTERS.COM|BY DAVID ROHDE
Leo Safavid Following are Pakistan's insecurities which compel them to keep Afghani
Taliban & Haqqani on their side:
Afghanistan has never recognized the Pakistani border with Afghanistan (Durand Line) in all
these years. Thus, Pakistan wants a government in Afg...See More
Asad Raheel Yes indeed u r correct in spelling out Pak's insecurities...which as an ally the
US shud address however i also agree with u...as pointed out in my appreciation above that
Pak had bet on the wrong horse...when it was time to choose ie it should have su...See More
Dorothea Ladynegg Whether the office is in Aabpara, Doha or Washington is not relevant to
me. The very fact that the Taliban will be granted enough legitimacy anywhere in the world
to have an office is baffling. Thousands died in mosques, on roads, in schools, in courts...See
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Asad Raheel EXTRACT from the above Article: As the world observed the tenth
anniversary of the horrific tragedy of September 11, 2001, an SMS was doing the rounds in
Pakistan. It said, Dear USA! Your 9/11 is our 24/7. Regards, Pakistan. My question is: till
when? Presently, it is for 365 days a year. When will our ordeal end?
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has once again demanded of US to take notice of
attacks inside Pakistan from Afghanistan. As per media reports, the US ambassador in
Pakistan, Cameron Munter held second meeting with Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir on
Tuesday.
http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=183919
ONLINE - International News Network

Largest Pakistani News Agency
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Asad Raheel http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../28/gIQAcX9t4K_story.html

White House refuses to endorse criticism of Pakistan by Joint Chiefs of Staff
chairman
WASHINGTON The White House is refusing to endorse controversial...
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Asad Raheel The TRAGEDY:

a. the govts of both Pak & the US are hiding facts from their own peoples...See More
John Heiser American is not really different in that regard, people just think they are.
Asad Raheel I subscribe to the theory that most of the times Bravery lies in NOT fighting as
compared to iniate a fight...hence to the Doctrines that
a. the Art of War lies in its Avoidance...See More
Asad Raheel IF the US is the 800-pound gorilla that stamps on itself, Pakistan is like a
python which thinks its crushing its prey but is really asphyxiating itself.
http://www.dawn.com/.../lying-liars-and-the-lies-they...
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Asad Raheel The question asked in Islamabad, as well as in Washington, as to what benefits
US aid brings to Pakistan, is being answered as follows. In Washington, the question being
asked post-Bin Laden is: what is or has the US received in return for the $20bn ai...See More
Who benefits from US aid?
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Asad Raheel These financiers and facilitators provide the fuel for the Taliban, Haqqani
Network and Al-Qaeda to realize their violent aspirations, Treasury under secretary for
terrorism and financial intelligence David Cohen said in a statement.
http://www.dawn.com/.../us-levies-sanctions-on-haqqani...
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Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/30/us-tones-down-rhetoric.html

US tones down rhetoric
The United States appeared on Thursday to have adopted a new approach for dealing with the alleged
presence of terrorist outfits in Fata, taking legal action...
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Asad Raheel "I don't agree exactly with that," Dempsey said. American global power and
influence are derived from three strengths: military, diplomatic and economic.
http://www.foxnews.com/.../new-us-military-chief-differs.../
New U.S. Military Chief Differs With Mullen Over National Security Threat Posed
by Debt
Even before taking over as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest...
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Megan S Mills a later article indicated Yank, Euro talks with Afghanistan minus Pakistan, a
suggestion that whole Afghan tangle being repositioned.
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Asad Raheel Rajotavo DasGupta

Asad sab what are your thoughts on the possible 'conflict' scenario in South Asia...where are
we heading?
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Leo Safavid I think that USA is backing down from its earlier accusations, and I am sure
Pakistan is likely to do the same. I expect either joint operations in North Waziristan &
Quetta or simply the Pakistani forces doing a better job on their own. I expect to ...See More
Asad Raheel Brian Cuffari

Bismarck on preventive war: "committing suicide from fear of death."...See More
Dorothea Ladynegg http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta2/tft/article.php...

Report: Tribal militias are double-edged weapons by Zia Ur Rehman
Under fire for opposing the Taliban, tribal lashkars look up to the state for...
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Asad Raheel http://www.voanews.com/.../Pakistan-Denies-Involvement-in...

Pakistan Denies Involvement in Rabbani Assassination
Foreign ministry calls the allegations baseless and irresponsible
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Asad Raheel Dorothea Ledinek

"We have been witnessing a horrible backlash from the Taliban", Kamal said. "They are
bombing our lashkars, but our weddings, funerals, and jirgas, and beheading our
families."...See More
The Friday Times
Aapas ki Baat - Najam Sethi k Sath (21th Sep 2011 - Part 1/3) Geo Tv
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Asad Raheel Therefore, the sooner the Americans and Pakistanis lay their cards on the table
and claim their respective interests in Afghanistan based on their Tajik-Uzbek and Pashtun
proxies, a significant amount of give and take should show the way forward for bo...See More
Editorial: US-Pak relations: roadblocks ahead by Najam Sethi
Admiral Mike Mullen's brutally candid statements have pushed US-Pak...
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Asad Raheel Of PROXY Wars & Links to INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES: Head of the
HAQQANI Network Visits WHITEHOUSE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLBoXQTBqY...See More
Ronald Reagan Dedication for Afghan Mujahideen - 1
Haqqani Network, Proxy War & US History of Proxy War.http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/haqqaninetwork-proxy-war-us-hist...
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Asad Raheel So when I meet for many hours, as I do, with Pakistani officials, they rightly
say, Youre the ones who told us to cooperate with these people. Youre the one who funded
them. Youre the ones who equipped them. Youre the ones who used them to bring ...See More
Pakistanis alone did not create Haqqanis: US
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said that the Pakistanis have a point when they say that Pakistan
alone did not create the Haqqani network, which...
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Asad Raheel Siraj Haqqani, a key leader of Afghanistan's militant Haqqani network, tells the
BBC in an exclusive interview it was not responsible for killing Burhanuddin Rabbani, the
man overseeing Taliban peace talks in Afghanistan. Mr Haqqani was giving an audio...See
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Transcript of Haqqani interview

Siraj Haqqani, a key leader of Afghanistan's militant Haqqani network, tells the BBC the group did not kill
government peace envoy Burhanuddin Rabbani.
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Leo Safavid Asad, Haqqani trying to defend Pakistan is not a good sign. It is acting too much
like 'a friend in need is a friend in deed'. But, I am sure that it is true that every one & his
uncle is trying to cut a deal with Haqqanis. Quite pathetic, actually.
Asad Raheel Leo Leo Safavid irrespective of the US "Do More" mantra...i think its high time
for Pakistan to bring forth legislation (in its own interest) to formally INCORPORATE the
FATA into its own territory & hence thereby to enforce its WRIT there.
Following...See More
Leo Safavid Asad, I totally agree with you. In 21st century for a country to have free tribal
regions is mind boggling. That ancient British system needs to be changed & all tribal areas
incorporated in to the rest of the nation-state system. One law & one poli...See More
Imtiaz Mahmood To establish schools and industry, money and skills are required. When
jihadi soldiers are getting $500/month and ISI protection, who needs a lower paid production
job. For God's sake we are Al Humdo Lillah Muslims; we need money without working. It
should either be oil or minerals in our lands and kafirs should extract these for us and just
give us money.
Dorothea Ladynegg From Khazaana Morh to Loi Sam, crossing the villages of Deelay and
Rashakai, more than 15,000 houses and around 700 shops were razed to the ground by jet
bombers and shelling on both sides of the road. Its hard to believe when you are told there
were ...See More
Asad Raheel Ya Imtiaz Hussain Mahmood...the remuneration of a Taliban soldier has always
been higher than that of a Pak Army soldier...Infact to tell u the truth the average Mujahideen
or Taliban soldier has tended to look down upon a Pak Army soldier
I've learnt...See More
Asad Raheel Very timely...an article sent by you Dorothea Ledinek. It indicates the
VAGARIES of military action (against the Taliban) in the FATA. So far military action has
taken place against the Taliban in three areas ie Swat, Bajaur (as depicted in this articl...See
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Asad Raheel Gen Allen: "We came to this region for two reasons: go after al Qaeda and to
make sure the Taliban don't unseat this government and don't return to power."
Despite 10 years of war, 1,777 U.S. service members killed and $557.1 billion already spent
-- ...See More
Afghan War Still Worth It, General Says
This week marks 10 years of fighting in Afghanistan. Gen. John Allen is now the eighth U.S. commander in
charge of the war, charged not only with fighting...
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Reasons for Taliban's success inspite of US war on terror:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15132461
Secret of the Taliban's success
Ten years ago the Taliban melted away without a fight - only to re-emerge as a sophisticated guerrilla force
which has taken on the might of the US military in...
BBC.CO.UK
In short, the article talks about US losing the focus on th war against Taliban, once Iraw
war started and they outsourced it to Pakistan Army, but Pak Army was following a 'soft'
policy and this allowed Taliban to regroup in Waziristan regions and the...See More
Asad Raheel The 2014 target for U.S. forces to leave has also speeded up peace talks
between the U.S. and the Taliban. Afghans are no longer sure who is on whose side, or
whether peace in their country is even possible.
At this stage it appears that the U.S. will...See More

Analysis: First-person view of Afghan collapse - Forbes.com
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Brian Cuffari The U.S. is broke, and can't afford anymore military occupations. We have
made the same historical mistakes as many other powerful nations that have over-extended
their entire economies through bloated military budgets. A Brown University study has c...See
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Asad Raheel President Hamid Karzai has said his government and Nato have failed to
provide Afghans with security, 10 years after the Taliban were otherthrown. The president
also vowed to step down in 2014 and said he was working on the succession.
My perception o...See More
Karzai on 10 years of Afghan conflict
The BBC's John Simpson spoke to Afghan President Hamid Karzai on the tenth anniversary of US led forces
commencing their attack on the Taliban...
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Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: Gen. (Retd.) Talat Masood said that threat perceptions of
Pakistan and the US vary from each other despite unity of objectives so both the countries
want to confront the threat differently.
http://www.brecorder.com/.../30974-pakistan-us-have...
Pakistan, US have different threat perceptions: Talat Masood
Gen. (Retd.) Talat Masood said that threat perceptions of Pakistan and the...
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Asad Raheel Responding to questions, Musharraf claimed that India's ambition is to weaken
Pakistan, to have a weak Pakistan so that it can be dominated, so that it does not have any
confrontationist attitude, which does not go well with India's vision of "dominating the
region" and maybe being if not a world power, at least a regional power.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../arti.../10276783.cms
India wants to weaken, dominate Pakistan, claims Musharraf - The Economic
Times
Former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has claimed that India's...
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John Heiser India has been playing regional superpower since the mid-eighties. Buying
aircraft carriers and sending them to call on the ports of small nations. It is a way of
intimidating Soyj and South East Asia,
Asad Raheel It is clear that India and China are competing for access to Afghanistans rich
mineral and energy resources. It is also clear that this competition fuels some of New Delhis
strategic thinking regarding its presence in Afghanistan. Pakistans repeated...See More
China factor in Afghanistan
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Asad Raheel Post by BRIAN CUFFARI:

The latest United Nations report outlines an extensive torture network throughout what is
basically the entire country of Afghanistan, with children as young as 14 believed to have
been beaten and/or tortured while detained. U.S...See More
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Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: The banned conglomerate of militant groups, Tehreek-eTaliban Pakistan (TTP), will seek mediation by countries like Saudi Arabia, if the
government offers them peace talks a top militant leader of the banned outfit said in a
cautious response to Pakistans earlier decision to open negotiations with the group.
http://tribune.com.pk/.../guarded-response-taliban-hint.../
Guarded response: Taliban hint at accepting Saudis as peace brokers
Commander of the group says implementation of a peace deal must be...
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Asad Raheel This is another indication as to where in the equation do the Taliban hold
Pakistan...therefore Pakistan shud now stop flirting with the Taliban!
Asad Raheel To offer an Olive branch to the Haqqanis & to pressurise Pakis to Bash
them...DIPLOMACY?? Where does all this leave Hamid Karzai? And, of course, what
happens now to the India-Afghan strategic agreement? There are no easy answers. What a
twist in the Great Game all this is turning out to be!
http://blogs.rediff.com/.../clintons-olive-branch-to.../
Clintons olive branch to Haqqani clan - Indian Punchline
The US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has openly signalled in an interview with Reuters that Washington is
open to talking with the Haqqani network....
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Asad Raheel (Reuters) - Militants fired two missiles at a rally led by the governor of
Pakistan's northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province on Tuesday, killing one person and
wounding four, but the governor was not hurt, security officials said.
...See More
Pakistan's governor escapes missile attack
KALAYA, Pakistan (Reuters) - Militants fired two missiles at a rally led by the governor of Pakistan's
northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province on...
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Asad Raheel WASHINGTON: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday said that
the United States cannot abandon Pakistan but that the South Asian nation must help solve
Afghanistans difficulties or it will continue to be part of the problem.
http://www.sananews.net/.../us-cannot-abandon-pakistan...
South Asian News Agency | US cannot abandon Pakistan relationship: Hillary
Clinton
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Asad Raheel Bob Woodward, a Washington Post journalist, writes in the book that President
Zardari told the then-CIA Director Gen Michael Hayden during their meeting in New York on
12 November 2008: Kill the seniors. Collateral damage (caused by CIA drone attacks inside
Pakistan) worries you Americans. It does not worry me.
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Some suggest staying away from Obamas Wars
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Asad Raheel The Obama administration has launched the opening salvos of a new, more
aggressive approach towards an Afghan insurgent group it asserts is supported by Pakistans
government, the newspaper quoted senior US administration officials. The decision
to ...See More
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Asad Raheel PESHAWAR: Militants ambushed Pakistani troops on Monday, killing nine
soldiers in gunbattles that lasted several hours on the outskirts of Peshawar in the
northwestern tribal badlands, officials said.
http://www.dawn.com/.../nine-pakistani-troops-killed-in...
Nine Pakistani troops killed in northwest: officials
Another three members of the Frontier Corps paramilitary were wounded in the attack and at least 14
militants killed in retaliatory fire in Bara district.
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Asad Raheel MIRAMSHAH/PESHAWAR: The United States shifted hundreds of its troops
to the Afghan area bordering North Waziristan on Sunday along with heavy arms and gunship
helicopters and sealed the Pak-Afghan border for all types of movement.
http://thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=9604...
Hundreds of US troops seal NWA border
MIRAMSHAH/PESHAWAR: The United States shifted hundreds of its troops to the Afghan area bordering
North Waziristan on Sunday along with heavy...
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Asad Raheel Yes Manan Mody i had already mentioned that the ISAF had moved Artillery to
the border adjoining N Waziristan some time ago. Now the border has been sealed with a
view tp prevent infiltration from N Waziristan...the location of the Haqqani network.
Asad Raheel Its high time that the issue of the END-GAME in Afghanistan be discussed
threadbare!! My suggestion wud be to take other regional powers on board esp PRC...which
shud also foot some of the bill fr the War...as it is an indirect beneficiary...terrorists of ETIM
(a separatist movement in China) hav also been killed by US & Pak army actions. India, the
CARs & Iran shud also have a say in it.
18 October 2011 at 00:57 Unlike 2
http://www.indianexpress.com/.../pm-to-urge.../861312/
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PM to urge Brazil, SA for common stand on Af-Pak - Prime Minister...
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Kishor Shah It should be clear to all, by this time, that AF problem can not be solved by
Brute Force or Political manouverings.
It is time to try humanitarian methods to dilute the problem. This applies to all India,
Pakistan, USA etc.
Kishor Shah Manan Mody : Hi

No quick fix solution available on this issue. Improve the quality of life of people of AF
which will dilute the violence. Allow people to move from apprehensions to reconcilliation.
Rest will follow.
This is a long drawn process.
Asad Raheel That...what u hav pointed out Kishor Shah has indeed been the Lacking ie
DEVELOPMENT (pursuant to military action in Afghanistan)
Asad Raheel The Pakistani Taliban declared war on the government in 2007, partly because
of the government's alliance with the United States. It has since launched suicide bombing
attacks and assaults on Pakistani government, military and international targets, k...See More
Pakistan: Militants Must Surrender Weapons Before Peace Talks
The Pakistani government is demanding that Islamic militants lay down their...
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Asad Raheel No one should be in any way mistaken about allowing this to continue without
paying a very big price, Mrs. Clinton said before leaving for Pakistan for what is certain to
be a tense visit by an unusually powerful American delegation sent to demand greater
Pakistani cooperation in fighting Al Qaeda and other extremists groups.
http://www.nytimes.com/.../clinton-issues-blunt-warning...
Clinton Issues Blunt Warning to Pakistan
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton warned Pakistans leaders on Thursday that they would face
serious consequences if they continued to...
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Asad Raheel US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has arrived in Pakistan for talks on
dismantling Taliban sanctuaries in the north of the country.
Her aides say that she will personally deliver a blunt message from the Obama administration
that Pakistan must ste...See More
Clinton in Pakistan for key talks
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Pakistan for crisis talks on dismantling Taliban sanctuaries in
the north of the country.
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Kishor Shah No amount of violent means and no amount of political manouverings is likely
to yeild peace in AF.
Af problem can be diluted by sustained long term humanitarian efforts for which all powers
have to shun their power oriented thinkings.
Asad Raheel Very aptly pointed out Kishor Shah...this indeed has been the MAJOR lacking.
That too much burden of the same shud not be placed on the US exchequer...is addl reason to
bring on other regional players on board (esp PRC, Russia, India & Iran) in the fin...See More
Kishor Shah I assume that there are different sets of Talibans with different patrons?
God pl impart some good senses to mankind to stop this 30 years old bloodsheddings.
Asad Raheel Megan S Mills...i think that the Taliban r being financed by the KSA (in one of
my posts i had mentioned the Haqqani network had agreed to arbitration only by the KSA ie
not Pak or the US).
The Taliban hav miniscule support amongst the people of Pak. ...See More
Megan S Mills if you think anyone in this part of the world is Not aware of the CIA/US link
of old, think again. In 2011, KSA funded, Iran arming them, ISI facilitating and who else is
involved? Do understand the pickle but harder to understand what seems considered normal
as in Army chief's threat of the other day. What DO educated Pakistanis really object to...
unclear.
Chetan Marwah nothing megan. nothing. pakistan needs a new paradigm for all its people,
and it wont happen organically
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/.../pakistan.../1/157191.html
Would stand by Pakistan if it is attacked by anyone: Hamid Karzai : Pakistan
News - India Today
After being critical of Pakistan over its links with Taliban militants, President...
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Asad Raheel When one reads the writing on the wall that his days are numbered...then he
runs HELTER & SKELTER!!...Senthil Ind
22 October 2011 at 21:51 Unlike 1
Asad Raheel Is it an admission (by the US) that the former policy was a misstep that
Washington is now trying to correct or is it a measured and flexible response to Pakistans
clearly desperate challenge on the basis of strategic depth against a perceived two...See More
Change of tack on the Haqqanis
US has changed its stance, but would conditionalities imposed from Taliban and Pakistani sides yield fruitful
talks?
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very aptly put Asad

Tinker Smile There are few facts 1. Pakistan is not Iraq or Afghanistan Paksitan is a nuclear
power 2. US can not use Afghanistan soil to attack Pakistan it will be considered an attack by
Afghanistan. Pakistan will retaliate with it might against Afghanistan 3. Afghanistan is not
that fool to allow its territory to attack Pakistan.
Asad Raheel Asad Raheel Background Briefing on the Secretary's Events in Islamabad
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Kishor Shah For younger generation jingoism is very tasty but they do not know about
damages it causes. It is wiser to avoid confrontation with USA and USA should also reconcile
to regional realities.
At this page we should do some brain storming to avoid confrontation and not evaluate power
equations.
Asad Raheel The Afghan endgame took the centre stage during extensive talks between the
US and Pakistan during US Secretary of State Hillary Clintons visit to Islamabad last week.
As a result of those marathon discussions, both Pakistani and US officials have now...See More
Afghan endgame: Pakistan, US agree on blueprint
US delegation crafts framework for reconciliation.
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Asad Raheel Rants of an insecure (& corrupt) guy who probably now realises that his days
are numbered.
Karzai has said that his country would support Pakistan if it was attacked by either the United
States or India....See More
Karzai backtracks on Pak remarks - Hindustan Times
President Hamid Karzai sought to distance himself Monday from controversial remarks made in an interview
in which he said Afghanistan would back...
Asad Raheel WASHINGTON: The United States has asked the Pakistanis to squeeze the
Taliban and the Haqqani network but that does not necessarily mean taking overt military
action against them, says US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who also acknowledged that
the Pakistani Taliban had built safe havens in Afghanistan.
http://www.dawn.com/.../us-not-seeking-overt-military...
US not seeking overt military action in Fata, says Clinton
There are different ways of fighting besides overt military action, and I think this is an important point of
clarification, said the US Secretary of State.
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Megan S Mills yes but who said Anything about attacking Pakistan ...
Asad Raheel I do'nt think it was a volte face on the part of the US...maybe better described
as a wolf in sheep's clothing which diplomacy (previously the US state dept was out of the
loop) tends to be...as there is no let up in their demand on Pak to do more...ne...See More
Asad Raheel "We must not begrudge if Pakistan orders ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) to
take counter-measures to protect its own interests," said Musharraf defending the Pakistani
spy agency that US officials have accused of supporting extremists.
"Now, India i...See More
'ISI may act if Afghanistan gets close to India' - Hindustan Times
Accusing India of trying to create anti-Pakistan Afghanistan, former Pakistan...
Indrajit Gupta Why? in what way does it concern Pakistan if Afghanistan becomes close to
India. The two countries were very close before the overthrow of the monarchy; how did it
affect Pakistan in any negative way then?
Megan S Mills Afghanistan somewhat anti-PK since about 1984, but no matter.
Megan S Mills AFG/Central Asia as strategic location - oil/gas/minerals less an issue for
Yanks than they are for China. USA soon able to buy all oil it needs from Cda that is not
produced domestically. Helps to look at each mineral and see Where known deposits are...
Megan S Mills 1. PK relies on 2B+ US Aid, 2. PK says it is not fiddling about in AFG where
it has Zero entitlement, but runs ops in AFG. Why is that US military agreement in India
(2000-) does not see Indian Forces dicking round with neighbours? Yes, US drones dep...See
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Alice Ina Code just reading this conversation has made me so sad!! .. I do believe though
that US people are fixing the problem .. they have heard all the peoples complaining of them
and things they did hardly know about!! They will work it out and I think in very ne...See
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Megan S Mills HOW IS UNCLE SAM THE ENEMY OF PUNJABISTAN?

Megan S Mills KSA financing Mountain Brothers et al ... so US is the enemy?

Asad Raheel NEW YORK - Former president Pervez Musharraf said Thursday that the fact
that Osama bin Laden turned up in Pakistan after a decade-long manhunt reflected the
countrys negligence and not its complicity with the Al-Qaeda leader.
http://nation.com.pk/.../US-to-suffer-heavily-if-goes...
US to suffer heavily if goes into NWA
NEW YORK - Former president Pervez Musharraf said Thursday that the fact that Osama bin Laden turned
up in Pakistan after a decade-long manhunt...
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Bill Miessner Yeah, and if you believe that, Musharraf also has a bridge in NY that he wants
to sell to you.
6 November 2011 at 19:19 Like 1
Asad Raheel The POLITICAL HISTORY of AFGHANISTAN: The political history of

modern Afghanistan begins in 1709 with the rise of the Pashtuns, when the Hotaki dynasty
was established in Kandahar followed by Ahmad Shah Durrani's rise to power in 1747. The
capital of A...See More
Asad Raheel Mirwais Hotak, seen as Afghanistan's George Washington,[79] successfully

rebelled against the Persian Safavids in 1709. He overthrew and killed Gurgin Khan, and
made the Afghan region independent from Persia. By 1713, Mirwais had decisively defeated
tw...See More
Asad Raheel Following the 1842 Battle of Gandamak that was fought between Akbar Khan
and William Elphinstone, the British established diplomatic relations with the Afghan
government but withdrew all forces from the country. They returned during the Second
Anglo-Af...See More
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Asad Raheel In April 1978, a prominent member of the People's Democratic Party of
Afghanistan (PDPA), Mir Akbar Khyber, was mysteriously killed. Leaders of the PDPA
feared that the government was planning to dismantle them because many were being
arrested. Hafizul...See More
Asad Raheel http://www.megavideo.com/?d=SRIA5RX5

MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching it
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Asad Raheel PESHAWAR, Pakistan Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters of

firing on an army checkpoint in the northwest and killing 25 soldiers, then closed a key
border crossing used by the coalition to supply its troops in neighboring Afghanistan.
http://www.ajc.com/.../pakistan-25-troops-dead-1241420.html
Pakistan: 25 troops dead in NATO helicopter attack | ajc.com
PESHAWAR, Pakistan Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters of...
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Asad Raheel COMMENT by Riaz Rehman: I have been saying!! over and over!! but no one
believe me!!..WAR is coming to Pakistan!!!...
26 November 2011 at 23:25 Like
Asad Raheel COMMENT by Lee Simpson: They wouldn't attack for no reason I would say
Pakistan has been playing it's double game again hiding militants.
Asad Raheel The Pakistani government has demanded the United States vacate an air base
within 15 days after blaming NATO air forces for the fatal attack on military outposts in
northwest Pakistan. The government issued the demand Saturday after NATO helicopters
an...See More
Pakistan demands US vacate air base after deadly strikes
The Pakistani government has demanded the United States vacate an air base within 15 days after blaming
NATO air forces for the fatal attack on military...
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Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hZOM6sCU1c...

'NATO strike revenge for Pakistan crackdown on CIA assets'
A NATO air strike on an army checkpoint in northwest Pakistan has killed up to...
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Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFh2NqTxdCw

Nato Attack Martyred Soldiers Funeral Prayer Offered (27/11/11) - Pakistan Army
PESHAWAR: The funeral prayer of the martyred 24 soldiers, who yesterday...
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Megan S Mills and ISI responsible for 30+ CF in southern Afghanistan. (No, CIA rubbish,
here). Govt of PK suddenly concerned about jawans? my goodness!
Asad Raheel LONDON: US-Pakistani relations are at one of their worst points in memory
after the NATO strike that killed 24 Pakistani troops, but can recover, Washingtons top
military officer said on Monday.
Dempsey refrained from repeating some of the accusation...See More
US-Pakistan ties troubled but repairable: US military chief
General Martin Dempsey says Shamsi base closure by Pakistan government is 'serious blow'.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK

Asad Raheel It took until Monday for Gen. James Mattis, leader of the Pentagons Central
Command, to announce a more formal investigation and to name Brig. Gen. Stephen Clark to
lead it. The inquiry will include representatives of NATO and General Allens team. Si...See
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What Happened on Pakistans Border?

A transparent investigation of the NATO strikes, with Pakistans participation, is essential.
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Asad Raheel A joint inquiry is the right way to go about it. Therefore the Inquiry ordered by
Centcom Command is auspicious. Pak shud be well advised to withold its responses to the
event, till the outcome of the joint inquiry, incl rhetoric. In the interim, it needs to carry out
INTROSPECTION which shud also incl its own inquiry/ inquiries.
Asad Raheel A step in the right direction of INTROSPECTION by Pak:

LAHORE, Nov 29 (APP): Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani on Tuesday announced to
summon a joint session of the parliament after the recommendations of the parliamentary
committee on National Security to discuss Mohmand Agency incident and the controversial
memo affair. ...See More
PM to summon parliaments joint session to discuss Mohmand agency incident,
memo matter
Associated Press of Pakistan Corporation, Pakistan's premier NEWS agency
FTPAPP.APP.COM.PK|BY UPLOADER
Asad Raheel Article by leftist Pakistani intellectual Tariq Ali, who graduated from Oxford &
was also President of the Oxford Union. He is now based in London, writes widely, has
published many books, and is a frequent contributor the London Review of Books, The
G...See More
Whats Next for Pakistan? - Battleland
Attached is a very important essay analyzing the political aspects of the current crisis with Pakistan, written
from the point of view of leftist Pakistani intellectual.
BATTLELAND.BLOGS.TIME.COM
Asad Raheel The 10-year-old Afghan war, neither wholly won nor lost, is slowly drawing to
a close - or so Washington postulates. But what has not stopped is the linked, escalating
destabilisation of the infinitely more important, more populous, and nuclear-armed P...See
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Cavalier US attitude risks turning Pakistan into another Iran

Cavalier US attitude risks turning Pakistan into another Iran
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Asad Raheel RAWALPINDI: International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and North
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) carried out the cross-border attack on purpose and there
are no expectations of any results coming from the inquiry.
The statements were made at a ...See More
NATO, ISAF carried out attack on purpose: Pakistan Army
No expectations of any results coming from inquiry into incident, say army officials at media briefing.
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Riaz Ahmad Rehman NATO is Saying!!!!!!""Kar ley jo karna hey!!!""...Pakisatn cannot go

to Security Council..coz there is already resolution passed that states that US can strike
anywhere where they find Terrorist hideouts!!!
Asad Raheel UNITED NATIONS: Pakistans permanent envoy to United Nations (UN)
Abdullah Hussain Haroon in his letter to UNs Security Council has lodged strong protest
against NATOs attack on Pakistans border post in Mohmand Agency, media reported on
Tuesday.
http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=186447
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Asad Raheel Bullocks, Patriot Riaz Rehman...Pakistan reserves that right...but in my

opinion...it shud not excercise it...& certainly not yet!
Asad Raheel Pakistan is to boycott talks on Afghanistan's future in protest at a Nato air strike
which killed 24 of its soldiers at the weekend, officials say.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15937270
Pakistan 'to boycott Bonn talks'
Pakistan is to boycott next week's talks in Bonn on Afghanistan's future in protest at a Nato air strike which
killed 24 of its soldiers, officials say.
BBC.CO.UK
Asad Raheel I do not think that war is an option fr either of the two countries...however
considering one of the worst case scenarios...ie if such incidents are repeated then Pak cud
turn into a state like Iran & quoting from the relevant article ante..."If Washington does not
learn to tread more carefully, it may find the first US-Pakistan war is starting just as the
fourth Afghan war supposedly ends".
Anuradha Baqaya Chak Very doubtful Asad Raheel sahab because both India and Pakistan
will never go to war with the US or China even if the US and China go to war with each
other...we could be part of the peace keeping forces
Simon McWaters The State Department has a long history of disagreeing with the policy
proposals of the CIA and Defence Department. Their backgrounds give all the reasons - State
Department tends to be filled with people educated in politics, history and diplomacy, so...See
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Asad Raheel Anuradha Chak...I hav not really given my own comments...yet...i've just
responded affirmative or in the negative to comments frm other members. I am also of the
opinion that Pak shud participate in the inquiry convened by the US Centcomm...to which
it...See More
Asad Raheel Views of some US Senators: Frustration is particularly acute among members
of Congress, who amid an economic recession are being asked to support billions in military
and civilian aid for Pakistan.
Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Demo...See More
Asad Raheel The state of Pakistan is akin to a headless chicken ever since Musharraf had
exited (in 2008) from the political scene. It comprises of self-serving politicians & an
obscurantist Army...worsened by the fact that they are NOT on the same page with each ...See
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Bill Miessner It is difficult for us in the West understand how backwards Afghanistan truly
is. Most Afghans have never traveled more than a mile or two from their little village, have
never met a representative of the government, and do not even realize that they live in a
country named Afghanistan.
Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ_mzOaf8Js

Secret Pakistan: BBC Documentary "BACKLASH" Week 2-[FULL HD]
Secret Pakistan "Backlash" 2011, Part 2 of the BBC Documentary Series....
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Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSinK-dVrig&feature=related

Secret Pakistan : Documentary by BBC Part 1 (Double Cross)
"Secret Pakistan" by BBC showing involvement of ISI and Pakistan Army in...
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Lola Sovina http://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../US-refuses-to-apologise...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8921789/USrefuses-to-apologise-for-Pakistan
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superb analysis Asad, however I think US war on Afghanistan served its purpose atleast
in the beginning of the war, in throwing out the bunch of clowns ruling Afghanistan. I dream
US, Russia, India and Pakistan should form a joint special task force and destroy Islamist
terrorists groups like Taliban/Haqqani etc etc and liberate the entire region from
fundamentalism
1 December 2011 at 01:55 Like 1
Reuven Kossover It's hard to comment on this. I've only learned the bare minimum about all
this, and what I've learned, I've learned from the point of view of the Pashtun colleague I
have who fled the Taliban there. I was already living in Israel when the United Sta...See More
Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1lHLPuthPY

Outraged Pakistanis Protest Deadly Cross-Border Attack by NATO
Protesters throughout Pakistan raged Monday against the U.S. and NATO...
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Asad Raheel NEW YORK, 1 DEC: The White House has ruled out President Barack Obama
offering formal condolences to Pakistan over the killing of its 24 soldiers in a Nato strike,
as suggested by his top diplomat in Islamabad in a desperate bid to salvage deteriorat...See
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Nato strike: Obama not to offer formal apology to Pak

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Asad Raheel We cannot be successful in securing peace and security in the region alone. I
urge you to ensure full US participation in and cooperation with a full, impartial and
transparent investigation into the airstrike.

When forces act under the auspices of ...See More
US Congressman concerned by Nato strike, seeks full probe
The response of the United States will be criticalto the security of our troops in Afghanistan, Dennis
Kucinich stressed in the letter released by his office.
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Asad Raheel Pakistan has resumed some cooperation with US-led forces in Afghanistan
following Nato strikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers by working with the coalition to
prevent another cross-border incident from escalating, US spokesperson Navy Lt Cmdr Brian
Badura said.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/.../Article1-776766.aspx
Nato-Pak resume cooperation tentatively - Hindustan Times
Pakistan has resumed some cooperation with US-led forces in Afghanistan...
Asad Raheel I was planning to devote this column to Memogate and Ambassador Husain
Haqqanis resignation, then I woke up one morning to learn that the topic had been rendered
quaint by a Nato cross-border attack killing two dozen Pakistani soldiers and bringing th...See
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We are free to choose peace | Blog | DAWN.COM

I was planning to devote this column to Memogate and Ambassador Husain Haqqanis resignation, then I
woke up one morning to learn that the topic had...
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Asad Raheel Post by Megan S Mills: ISLAMABAD - Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq
Parvez Kayani on Thursday suspended command and chain system to counter any aggression
on borders.
http://nation.com.pk/.../Kayani-declares-war-on-Nato...
Kayani declares war on Nato aggressors
ISLAMABAD - Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Thursday suspended command and
chain system to counter any aggression on...
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Asad Raheel COMMENT by Megan S Mills someone really needs a bullet

2 December 2011 at 18:27 Like
Gagan Sharga Senthil Ind you have observed correctly and I appreciate your statement "the
'joke' comment was Gagan's analysis on Pakistan's response to US/NATO".....and it was in
that context only but I think it rubbed the wrong way......but facts will remain facts...See More
2 December 2011 at 22:03 Unlike 2
Asad Raheel I think it was screening of the above videos...which was instrumental to
banning of BBC & CNN telecast in Pak...which I hav already stated is an obscurantic step.
The videos contain both fact & fiction (which can be rebutted) but a lot can be
understoo...See More
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That was a solid threadbare analysis, I never knew Zardari was a case study in
Harvard I think some new regime should come in Pakistan, Mushy or Imran Khan - and
things will turnaround
Leo Safavid I think that what ever might have been the reasons for America's war in
Afghanistan, it did serve at least a humanitarian purpose. A government like the Taliban one
should not be allowed any where on this planet.
America's biggest mistake was that bef...See More
Gagan Sharga Asad your comment-"the CIA the US Defence dept (which mostly comprises
of ex CIA appointees) is also not exonerated from this" should be looked from the perspective
of Pakistan....Why Pakistan keep pointing out to others for the mess that they created ...See
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Gagan Sharga Pakistan Army enjoys powerful position as the civilian government is like
headless government...........Cannot understand when former Pakistan's foreign Minister Shah
Mehmood Qureshi made the statement that Pakistan nukes are not safe under Zardari.....so do
you think he made the observation after having done the case study, as you stated above, on
Zardari at Harvard????
Gagan Sharga Pakistan kept interfering in the Afghanistan when they supported Taliban and
even Afghan President has said time and again that Pakistan should dismantle the terror
camps but to no avail and then they expect NATO to become like sitting ducks and plead
innocence........
Ratan Sharga War is and never will be a solution to any problem.Only innocent people die
in wars who have nothing to do with the high egos of the rulers or political blunders that took
their heads. But then there is another lobby (industrialists) who are manufactur...See More
Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga...plz read much further up in the thread...on the role of both the
ISI & CIA as regards Afghanistan. It is on the basis of this history, absence of a clear cut
policy, vested interests of many officials in these orgs & their mis-handling o...See More
Asad Raheel Ratan Sharga...i term this phenomena "corporate brinkmanship".

Asad Raheel As regards US AID to Pak.

a. its trickle down effect (fr reasons manifold) to the people of Pakistan...has always been
minimal....See More
Leo Safavid Asad that is what I was saying when I said that even if a very small fraction of
the billions spent by the US had been invested in uplifting of the Afghan and Tribal people of
Pakistan, it would have made a difference. It might be too late now as the best time was right
after US victory against the Taliban.
Asad Raheel Yes Leo Safavid this is what i had implied in my ante comment reproduced as
under
"Leo Safavid has also cited additional reasons...as to how the Afghanistan problem...went out
of hands"....See More
Leo Safavid Arsalan Ali, may be thinking out of box can provide solutions. Any way, history
by itself is worth reviewing and analyzing.
Asad Raheel MANSUR IJAZ: Haqqani made just one critical mistakeseconding me into
his scheme. I dislike the brinksmanship and heavy-handed role that Pakistans military and
intelligence organizations have played throughout the nations history, and have said so
ov...See More
An Insider Analysis of Pakistan's "Memogate"
In an analysis of Pakistans Memogate, Mansoor Ijaz, a key player in the controversy, offers his
interpretation of the actions of Islamabads erstwhile...
THEDAILYBEAST.COM|BY THE DAILY BEAST

Gagan Sharga Asad- everyone knows that US and Pakistan were both partners in driving out
erstwhile Soviet Union from Afghanistan.......whereas you completely missed what I was
trying to state.My point is US and USSR were at loggerheads in cold war...........Pakista...See
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Yvonne Leadpencil This is the one they are trying for.

Option 3: Afghan-led Counterinsurgency...See More
Yvonne Leadpencil http://www.cfr.org/afghanistan/afghanization-can-work/p26662

How Afghanization Can Work - Council on Foreign Relations
What is the best way to stabilize Afghanistan at a time when international...
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Gagan Sharga Now blaming US is like diverting and putting the blame on them and show it
to the people that it is US that created the entire problem whereas Pakistan was just a small
player whereas it is not the case....
Simon McWaters "Afghanistan is a different country and why on earth did Pakistan went
there?"
If your neighbours house is on fire and threatens to set yours ablaze too, it is only sensible to
do all you can to extinguish that fire.
Gagan Sharga Policy makers in US should have asked one question to themselves when
they launched the war against terror.....Did Pakistan willingly entered the war against terror as
an ally of US????The answer is clear-No.When US made the call and ask their position...See
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Gagan Sharga Simon-Oh I did not know that Pakistan went there after 1990 to douse the fire
and it has good fire fighting capability indeed by sending the Taliban which created what you
call heaven in Afghanistan????Today the whole world is reaping the what should we call the
dividends of the effort to, in your language, extinguish the fire of the neighbour.........
Asad Raheel Mansoor Ijaz, an American of Pakistani ancestry, negotiated Sudan's offer of
counterterrorism assistance to the Clinton administration in 1997. He was also involved in the
negotiation of the ceasefire in Kashmir between militants backed by ISI and Paki...See More
Gagan Sharga This is what I pointed out earlier.....Generals of Pakistan Army do not have to
face the election or people's verdict/mandate so they are not accountable and not sensitive to
the concerns of common Pakistani citizen...........Moreover, they do not worr...See More
Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga...whereas i appreciate ur interest in the matter...but since it spans
over decades...i wud suggest u read more about it...the fol long comments higher up in this
thread are likely to be of help to answer your queries:
1) Asad Raheel The A...See More
Gagan Sharga But Asad given the amount of growing distrust between US and Pakistan do
you think, as you said,one should lay all the cards on the table and then become
vulnerable?????Neither Pakistan nor US will ever lay all the cards it is like a fool testing the
d...See More
Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga ur comment:

"Simon-Oh I did not know that Pakistan went there after 1990 to douse the fire and it has
good fire fighting capability indeed by sending the Taliban which created what you call
heaven in Afghanistan????Today the whole world i...See More
Asad Raheel Agreed Gagan Sharga there is a lot of difference between wat shud be done &
what will occur...I gave my views on wat shud be done...& yes i do not think it happening
that way eg so far Pak has not joined the inquiry!
Gagan Sharga They also told blatant lies even to Pakistani people when they said that
Pakistani soil is not used for the NATO operations but slowly facts are coming out and it is in
the interest of Pakistan to own up their faults before other skeletons tumble out o...See More
Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga i hav already commented on the OBL scene & the applicability
to it of the legal doctrine of recent possession but that does not mean that Pak's acheivements
in this war oughta be brushed under the carpet...indeed most of the Al-qaeda chaps have been
apprehended by ISI...again i reiterate that u may pl read the comments relevant...so we can
move onwards. Plz also read the ENTIRE post of Mansur Ijaz!!
Gagan Sharga Where the money has gone that Pakistan received from US and international
agencies over the years and why Pakistani people are still suffering????Does the government
has the answers????
Asad Raheel Well the answer which i can give u right here is that u Gagan Sharga are not
reading things which have already been answered...(at least in some pre-liminary
form)...which wud be a pre-requiste fr reasonable debate eg even this recent shot in the air
fired by u abt finances ie US AID has been addressed to an extent, by both myself & Leo
Safavid. Therefore, i do not see how we can move onwards to reasonable debate.
Gagan Sharga Well as far as aid is concerned then Pakistan got billions of dollars and was
helped both with money and weapons...but how much did they spend for making the lives of
Pakistani people better????Negligible amount....rest they diverted to terror groups a...See More
Asad Raheel I hav already said...& now REPEAT that there oughta be a Broad based
inquiry...also cause the Pak people hav not been the main beneficiary of such amounts.
Again at the cost of repetition...the views of Mansur Ijaz (i wonder if u had read them
earlier...See More
Asad Raheel Again citing Mansur Ijaz...(at the cost of REPETITION)

Pakistans military men may not allow civilian supremacy just yet, but a serious transition
seems to be underway to at least make civilian institutions strong enough to coexist on an
even footing ...See More
Gagan Sharga True and it can only be possible when common people start asserting
themselves and demanding from the establishment their right and atmosphere of peace and
economic progress........but again as you mentioned "what should be done" is just another
remark but one should hope that things will become better in Pakistan.......
Gagan Sharga with respect to your statement, "no one would believe Pak can challenge
might if US/NATO"
--> True, what you have mentioned on Pak military/ISI leadership to do introspection and
focus on people development is valid point. However, i don'...See More
Leo Safavid Gagan Sharga, neither I nor Asad Raheel has been defending Pakistan's
military's policies regarding Afghanistan & the Taliban. I just expressed the views of the
Pakistani Establishment and the reasons behind its double policy there. I actually said, ...See
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President Prevez Musharraf with Fareed Zakaria at CNN

President Prevez Musharraf with Fareed Zakaria at CNN
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http://www.ibtimes.com/.../afghanistan-women-rights-kabul...
Afghan Women Fear Erosion of Rights Once NATO Troops Depart
It is believed that hundreds, perhaps thousands, of women in Afghanistan are...
IBTIMES.COM|BY IBTIMES
Riaz Ahmad Rehman Afghanistan.......A WORLD ACADEMY OF WARFARE, The

HISTORICAL GRAVEYARD OF SUPERPOWERS !!
The Hallmark of the "Super Powers" is their limited ability to learn... for USA, there was a
lesson in the 75 years life cycle of USSR to learn from. But alas, t...See More
Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga, your statement, "no one would believe Pak can challenge might
if US/NATO"
I view it differently & my views are: why fight at all? the strength of the opponent is the
secondary (but indeed a) consideration. Fighting has generally been eas...See More
Asad Raheel POST by Arsalan Ali

A candid estimate puts losses to Pakistans economy due to its participation in war on terror
around US$ 70 billion. The US has provided $20.7 billion to Pakistan since 2002, which
makes about 0.1 percent of the American treasure sp...See More
MYTH AND REALITY OF AMERICAN AID | Opinion Maker
By Air Commodore Khalid Iqbal Since 1950s, Pakistani governments, both...
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Asad Raheel The MEMOGATE SCANDAL: Copy of Mansoor Ijazs secret memo to
Admiral Mullen, Ijaz claims memo authored by recently resigned Pak Ambassador to US
(Husain Haqqani)
http://pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com/.../copy-of.../
Copy of Mansoor Ijazs secret memo to Admiral Mullen, Ijaz claims memo
authored by Husain Haqqani
PAKISTANBLOGZINE.WORDPRESS.COM
Asad Raheel Did I not say that Pak shud hav attended the Bonn Conference?...here is
concurrence to the same view...by a senior ex-diplomat of Pak.
Not attending the Bonn conference may assuage chauvinist fervour but it is tantamount to
cutting your nose to spite ...See More
The Salala tragedy and the Bonn conference
Bonn conference may be US dominated but is a forum where Pakistan needs to put forward its ideas on
Afghanistan.
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Asad Raheel Had Pak attended the Bonn Conference, not only cud hav its voice been
heard...it cud also hav availed the opportunity to rebut the views of others (herein Mr
Karzai...but of many others likely to follow)
http://www.dawn.com/.../karzai-accuses-pakistan-of...
Karzai accuses Pakistan of stalling talks with Taliban
If we fail in this war, which threatens all of us, it will mean a return to the situation before 9/11, said the
Afghan president.
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Asad Raheel WASHINGTON: US has refuted claims by Pakistani-American businessman,

Mansoor Ijaz that Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari, and former Ambassador Husain
Haqqani had advance knowledge of a covert raid deep into Pakistan to capture or kill Osama
bin Lad...See More
Neither Pakistan, nor any other govt informed of OBL raid in advance: White
House
US refutes Mansoor Ijaz's claim that Haqqani and Zardari had advanced...
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Leo Safavid Mansoor Ijaz seems to be working for either the Establishment or the Sharif
Brothers. Real shady character there.
Ezaz Ahmed Oryo I think everyone needs to get rid of its loved one. Afgan needs a freedom
from pak influence, & pak needs a freedom from Saudi influence.
Whatever, pakistan's involvement in afgan against USSR was very much a legitimate one. A
super power is annexing a...See More
Gagan Sharga Senthil Ind- "True, what you have mentioned on Pak military/ISI leadership
to do introspection and focus on people development is valid point. However, i don't
prescribe to the view that smaller countries can never stand up to bigger powers when
there ...See More
Gagan Sharga You have totally ignored increased Pak-China colloboration and the long
history of Pak-China friendship in your analysis, which skews the picture what you are giving
Gagan Sharga Asad-"Fighting has generally been easier than maintaining a durable
peace...which is an Art!!".....you just hit the nail on the head.....Agree completely that war is
easy and maintaining peace and tranquility is challenging.......Look at the world and ...See
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Gagan Sharga Senthil Ind-"You have totally ignored increased Pak-China colloboration and
the long history of Pak-China friendship in your analysis, which skews the picture what you
are giving".........I am not skewing.......here I am just talking about NATO strike ...See More
Gagan Sharga "need of China in the picture in this context does not arise "
--> It does arise because it gives Pakistan that much more options in its diplomacy with US
Gagan Sharga If Pakistan is dangling the carrot of China in front of US but it seems that
China is also not willing to go extra mile as it too faces problem of terrorism in Xinjiang and
terror groups operate on Pakistani soil and it was made clear by China to
Pakistan.....Therefore,Pakistan is still carrying on with US despite the differences...............
yes Pakistan is carrying relationship on with both US and China, and recently Chinese
govt issued a warning to US after OBL attack that 'any attack on pakistan's sovereignity
would be considered attack on china' and even expressed 'strong concern' with recent NATO
incident.

also, Pakistan has handed over some uyighur terrorists to China for creating disturbance
in China
Gagan Sharga It has to be seen whether China goes the extra mile or just show moral
support to Pakistan on NATO strike for getting the leverage over Pakistan for controlling the
separatist movement of Uighurs......
Gagan Sharga But certainly China is the power to watch out for in Asian region.......and it
will challenge US in Asia and elsewhere....therefore what US will do to Pakistan over it's
growing tilt towards China, as china has shown the support by at least standing with Pakistan
on NATO strike issue, is still not clear...........It seems there will be tug o war between US and
China in Asian region............
Megan S Mills & Burma now shifting to US -- Indian Ocean important to PRC, so the latter
making a stink in support of PK. China will soon mutter in favour of its collaboration with
US on counter-terrorism, too.
Gagan Sharga Yes, Historic visit of Ms.Clinton to Burma and it is like the lady with the
lamp...............lamp of hope,democracy and freedom......
Asad Raheel It is an irony that the person who could hav managed the issue...much better...is
in exile ie Pak's ex-President Pervez Musharraf
About the November 26 Nato air raid on Pakistani outposts in Mohmand Agency, Musharraf
said, Pakistan should take action but avoid military confrontation while getting guarantees
from the United States and Nato forces....See More
Bonn wont produce solutions: Musharraf
Former president says Pakistan should take action but avoid military confrontation
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Asad Raheel The way that the helmsmen of Pak are handling this crisis...is disappointing &
therefore i foresee further bad news fr Pak...in the waiting!!
Asad Raheel Why remains the bigger question. Will the fog of war subsume all else that
appears as an element of deadly omission and commission that men make when they are in
active combat? Emotion makes man what he is, as indeed, the beast that he sometime
becomes. Salala was a beastly act and a deadly consequence.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/302114/other-side-of-salala/
Other side of Salala
Salala was a beastly act and a deadly consequence.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Bill Miessner Asad - I found this book to be most illuminating. Give it a read if you get the
chance.
http://www.nytimes.com/.../05/16/books/review/Filkins-t.html
Book Review - War - By Sebastian Junger
The author of The Perfect Storm spent months with American soldiers in a lethal corner of Afghanistan and
details their intense lives in this original account.
NYTIMES.COM|BY BY DEXTER FILKINS
Asad Raheel (CNN) -- U.S. President Barack Obama called Pakistan's president Sunday to
express condolences over the airstrike that killed 24 soldiers near the Afghanistan border
more than a week ago, the White House said in a statement.
"The president made clear t...See More
Obama expresses 'condolences' to Pakistan's president - CNN.com
U.S. President Barack Obama called Pakistan's president Sunday to express...
CNN.COM|BY THE CNN WIRE STAFF
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: The principal character in the memogate scandal, Mansoor Ijaz,
has said that Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) is under nobodys control and always keeps its
hand in politics.
In an interview with CNN host Fareed Zakaria, Mr Ijaz said: The...See More
ISI always keeps its hand in politics: Ijaz
It is my view that Section S of the ISI has been involved in some very, very nefarious activities.
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Asad Raheel All what Mr Mansur Ijaz has done is that he has shown the Pakistani helmsmen
(both Civilian & Military)...the Mirror...& in doing so he has not violated any Pakistani or US
Law, but>>>Look at the response that he gets...in this case from this Buffoon.....See More
US govt must take action against Mansoor Ijaz: Malik
The interior minister said that from the very beginning Mansoor Ijaz has been changing his stance on the
memogate scandal.
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Gagan Sharga And now after first refusing the Bonn talks and probe Pakistan stress for the
betterment of ties with US........double speak at it's best..........Who are they fooling.......of
course the Pakistani public............
http://www.reuters.com/.../us-kabul-blast...
Suicide bomber attacks Shi'ite shrine in Kabul
KABUL (Reuters) - A suicide bomber attacked a Shi'ite Muslim shrine in central Kabul on Tuesday, where
hundreds of people had gathered to celebrate the...
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Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga...if u hav noticed...some of my predictions are coming true. I am
now so disappointed on the handling of the aftermath of the NATO bombing event by the
Pakistani helmsmen that i am not commenting much upon it.
What is ur opinion about Mansoor Ijaz??
Yvonne Leadpencil Now they are doing in Afghanistan what they are doing in
Pakistan...How can these people be stopped?
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/.../9240718-grim-new...
World News - 'Grim new precedent': Dozens of worshippers killed as blast hits
Afghan shrine
Updated at 4:15 a.m. ET: Afghan President Hamid Karzai says it is first time...
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Gagan Sharga Megan -your comment,"circus act." is true as far as Pakistan is concerned on
the issue of NATO strike on Pakistan is concerned......PM of Pakistan cannot make such
statement of having the need for better ties with US till they have the backing of Pakistani
General and it is well known fact that civilian government is puppet government.....
Asad Raheel Gagan Sharga...u hav replied my question with another one...anyhow i
appreciate the interest that u r taking in the matter.
What Mansoor Ijaz has done is simply this that he has shown the MIRROR to Pakistan. He
has done so primarily by the provision o...See More
Asad Raheel Whereas the ISAF are at war with the category of Taliban called Afghan
taliban...Pak is at some albeit lower level warfare with the category of Taliban called
Pakistani Taliban.
The interior minister's statement was basically a gratitude that this tim...See More
Asad Raheel Possibilities: One; the President authored the memo with the help of his
confidents and authorized HH to deliver it to Mullen. Two; President shared his anxiety with
HH and latter convinced him to seek the US assistance and volunteered to do the needfu...See
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Treasonous memo saga

The nation had yet not got out of the shock of premeditated target killings of hundreds of innocent residents
of Karachi at the hands of militant wings of...
PAKTRIBUNE.COM
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD Pakistan's embattled president, Asif Ali Zardari, is

determined to resist pressure to quit, his close aides said Wednesday, after Zardari's sudden
hospitalization in Dubai ignited feverish speculation about him resigning.
http://www.miamiherald.com/.../pakistani-president...
Pakistani president hospitalized; aides say he won't resign - World Wires MiamiHerald.com
Pakistan's embattled president, Asif Ali Zardari, is determined to resist...
MIAMIHERALD.COM
Asad Raheel Afghan President Hamid Karzai has blamed Pakistani extremists for an
unprecedented attack on Shi'ite Muslims in Kabul that killed 55 people, demanding justice
from the government in Islamabad.
By pointing the finger at the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi militant g...See More
Karzai blames Pakistanis for deadly attack
Karzai blames Pakistanis for deadly attack
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Asad Raheel Ok Gagan Sharga...since u tend to answer in a round about manner...once

again...
a. do u think that the US is an angel?...See More
Megan S Mills results: USA. No, & Yes. PK. No, & No.
Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lxIj_rnFtI

Memogate: Will the Mansoor Ijaz story shake Pakistan?
The Buck Stops Here: Pakistani-American businessman Mansoor Ijaz, the man who apparently took
President Zardari's plea for help to the US after...
YOUTUBE.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.ndtv.com/.../full-text-of-mansoor-ijazs...

Full text of Mansoor Ijaz's interview to NDTV
Pakistani-American businessman Mansoor Ijaz, the man who apparently took President Zardari's plea for
help to the US after Operation Osama, tells NDTV...
NDTV.COM
Asad Raheel ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT The top U.S. military officer on
Wednesday strongly rejected accusations from Pakistan that NATO deliberately killed 24
Pakistani soldiers last weekend.
Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs...See More
US general: NATO attack on Pakistan not deliberate
The top U.S. military officer on Wednesday strongly rejected accusations from Pakistan that NATO
deliberately killed 24 Pakistani soldiers last weekend.
MSNBC.MSN.COM
Asad Raheel WASHINGTON (SANA): Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General
Martin Dempsey has said that the US forces have achieved all the military targets in
Afghanistan, adding that the safe havens of terrorists are present in Pakistan.
He said that they are...See More
Gen Dempsey says US achieved military targets in Afghanistan
WASHINGTON (SANA): Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin...
SANANEWS.NET
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Asad Raheel Concurrently...three inquiries are in progress
a. An inquiry into the OBL killing of 02 May 11...headed by a rtd Judge of the Supreme Court
of Pak, with some othe senior CIVILIANS (not military personnel) as members. It has called
upon the public at l...See More
Asad Raheel Whereas I hav so far desisted to comment on the US policy in the context &
hav highlighted the duplicitous policy by Pak...I wud request members to answer my above
questions...viz
a. has the US been entirely fair/ transparent in its dealings related to the Afghan War?...See
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Megan S Mills did PK get paid as agreed?

Tayuba Jamil major your questions are untimely .your generals should have democratic
system even in the army or you are paid in us dollars and are happy working with usa
Asad Raheel How generous ladies can be...INSTEAD of answering the question!!
Asad Raheel The US House of Representatives approved a bill on Friday outlining the
foreign aid section of the new US spending plan for fiscal year 2012, which began on
October 1 and the Democratic-run Senate was expected to pass it by this weeks end.
http://www.sananews.net/.../us-congress-imposes.../
US Congress imposes restrictions on aid to Pakistan
The US House of Representatives approved a bill on Friday outlining the foreign aid section of the new US
spending plan for fiscal year 2012, which began on
SANANEWS.NET
Asad Raheel Political change in Pakistan is assured, but it will come about in a way that
cannot be foreseen. The Arab Spring, Americas declining influence in the Muslim world, and
citizens determination to be heard have combined to create an environment in which the
unprecedented and the unpredictable are the only certainties.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp...
Pakistan teeters on the razors edge
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari abruptly returned to Karachi on the morning of December 19, following a
13-day absence for medical treatment in Dubai,...
KHALEEJTIMES.COM

Asad Raheel Although due to a string of unfortunate incidents this yr, US & Pak relations
probably are at their lowest ebb...but i think there is realisation both sides that a working
relationship with minimal irritants is indispensable fr both...hence the new terms of
engagement are being worked out.
Leo Safavid Zardari supposedly has nine lives. Let us see how he overcomes it this time
around. But, I would agree that bringing Bilal in the front could be a blunder here.
But I am thoroughly enjoying Asma Jilani's bold statements inside the Supreme Court
& ...See More
Asad Raheel In a developing democracy like Pakistan's...a paradigm shift in the delicate
equilibrium between the establishment & the govt is inevitable...& the Memogate
investigation has provided a springboard fr the same.
I agree with ur opinion abt Zardari havi...See More
Megan S Mills is he a crook, too, or just related to several?

Megan S Mills Is Pakistan a developing democracy, Asad?

Asad Raheel I termed that so coz democracy has not yet taken firm roots in Pak...Megan S
Mills...evidenced by the fact that the roles of the pillar institutions are not clearly defined or
practiced. That the Supreme Court is presently seized with the Memogate scan...See More
Leo Safavid Asad, I think the Establishment (armed forces & ISI) have badly miscalculated
by pushing the memogate through the Supreme Court. Regardless of the consequences, they
are themselves likely to face a lot of scrutiny & criticism. For them, it is most li...See More
Asad Raheel Agreed Leo Safavid...not only is the defence counsel (Asma Jehangir) of the
controversial ex-Pak Ambassador to the US (Hussain Haqqani) putting up a formidable
defence fr her client...she is sparing no one amongst the other parties to the issue...or ra...See
More
Wrong Answer Asad, the problem with terrorism specifically in the subcontinent is the
imbalance the Pakistani society and economy is in. The society is screwed up because of an
alive and well feudal system. The economy is screwed up because of the decision of LAQ
t...See More
Ezaz Ahmed Oryo For pakistan democracy is a must. Presence of nuclear has made it the
most dangerous country on earth. But only parliament or ellection is not democracy.
Bangladesh & pakistan need the same thing. Completly free anti-corruption commission, &
freedom of...See More
Asad Raheel PAKISTAN has understandably rejected the Pentagons report on Salala
aggression that assigns blame both on NATO and Pakistan for the attack that resulted into
deliberate killing of 24 officers and jawans of Pakistan Army. There is point in Pakistans
s...See More
Salala murderers should be court-martialed
ISLAMABAD | LAHORE | PESHAWAR | ...
PAKOBSERVER.NET
Leo Safavid Asad, I am not so sure about democracy in Imran Khan's PTI either. I do not
think that even their members have any say or have participated in party elections to elect
their Chairman, Vice Chairman, etc. But, PTI being in its early stages, I am willi...See More
Asad Raheel It is rumoured that CIA is behind this Memo...well Intelligence organisations
(be it CIA or the ISI or any other...even with their rogue aspects) do make contributions
towards world peace & I view this as one such instance...coz this also has the poten...See More
Asad Raheel Talk to Pakistani politicians, scholars, generals, businessmen, spies and
journalists as I did in October and before long, you are beyond the realm of politics and
diplomacy and into the realm of hurt feelings. Words like ditch and jilt and be...See More
The Pakistanis Have a Point
Sure, they can be infuriating, not to mention duplicitous, paranoid and self-pitying. But you try being a U.S.
ally.
NYTIMES.COM|BY BILL KELLER
Asad Raheel DOHA, (SANA): The Director General of ISI Lieutenant General Shuja Pasha
has held meeting with US officials in Doha to improve the intelligence sharing system
between the two countries.
http://www.sananews.net/.../dg-isi-holds-meetings-with.../
DG ISI holds meetings with US officials in Doha

DOHA, (SANA): The Director General of ISI Lieutenant General Shuja Pasha has held meeting with US
officials in Doha to improve the intelligence sharing...
SANANEWS.NET
Asad Raheel http://tesseremos.wordpress.com/.../i-am-the-destiny-the.../

I am the destiny The history that PPP doesnt want you to know.
Outside Pakistan, the 'real Left' knows Eqbal Ahmad as one of the best...
TESSEREMOS.WORDPRESS.COM
3 January 2012 at 10:12 Like Remove Preview
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: Secret talks between Pakistans security agencies and the
local Taliban who have reportedly splintered down into many different groups have
entered a decisive phase.
Now both sides are hoping their negotiations will culminate in a lasting agreement which
will restore peace in the countrys lawless tribal lands....See More
'Secret' talks with Taliban reach decisive phase
While military denies dialogue, key TTP leaders confirm negotiations.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../four-nato-troops-killed-in...

Four Nato troops killed in Afghanistan
Four Nato soldiers have been killed in bomb attacks in southern Afghanistan, the military said Friday.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel PAKISTAN: http://www.dawn.com/.../taliban-kill-15-captive...

Taliban kill 15 captive Constabulary personnel
PESHAWAR, Jan 5: Militants have killed 15 Frontier Constabulary personnel in North Waziristan to avenge,
in the words of a Taliban spokesman, the death...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel As can be seen ante...many more Pakistanis ie both civilians & military (Pak
Army is usually not keen to give exact nos) are killed in this War.
6 January 2012 at 15:21 Like
Asad Raheel I wish this cud hav been in English...instead of Urdu.

Chandra Kant Pathak Somehow it got planted that once Muslims controlled the world
affairs, perhaps because of the fact that the West is exploiting the oil resources from regions
dominated by Muslim population but what was missed was exploitative nature of
CAPITALIST ways and not wars of civilizations ; this resulted in resurgence and the worst
was that the route adopted is regressive .
7 January 2012 at 21:28 Like 1
Asad Raheel Chandra Kant Pathak...when u do hav the time...plz go thru the whole of this
pretty long thread...thanx!!
Asad Raheel MEMOGATE: Ijaz contended that he needed security as Interior Minister
Rehman Malik had "made multiple public statements about asking the US government and
Interpol to interfere with my freedoms".
http://ibnlive.in.com/.../ijaz-sets.../947696.html
Ijaz sets conditions for appearing at memogate probe panel, IBN Live News
From Rezaul H Laskar Islamabad, Jan 7 (PTI) Controversial...
IBNLIVE.IN.COM
Asad Raheel WASHINGTON, Jan 6: The US State Department said on Friday that it felt the
time had come to demand a fair and transparent judicial process for Pakistans former
ambassador to Washington, Husain Haqqani, and to make it clear that were watching.
On T...See More
US says its watching Haqqani case
WASHINGTON, Jan 6: The US State Department said on Friday that it felt the time had come to demand a
fair and transparent judicial process for Pakistans...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../pakistan%E2%80%99s-real-dangers...

Pakistans real dangers are internal William Milam
Dawn.com is your source for the latest world news covering current events and top stories from Pakistan,
South Asia, US, Europe and the rest of the world.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.sananews.net/.../malik-says-musharraf-to-be.../

Malik says Musharraf to be arrested after arriving in country
ISLAMABAD, (SANA): Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said that Mansoor Ijaz is not a Pakistani citizen
and that memogate has hurt the sentiments of the...
SANANEWS.NET

Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../blast-in-khyber-agency...
Blast kills 23 in Khyber agency
More than 50 others were also wounded in the explosion took place in a market in Jamrud, said officials.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../us-says-it-wants-negotiated...

US says it wants negotiated settlement of memo issue
WASHINGTON, Jan 9: Speculations that President Asif Ali Zardari may go to Dubai again to ease political
pressures on his government reached the US...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel Ominous turf war between Pakistani state institutions. Pakistan's political scene
looks like the OK Corral, with the main organs of state and other players heading for an
inglorious showdown.
Ominous turf war in Pakistan
A look at the political scene in Pakistan, where the powerful military is heaping pressure on the civilian
government.
BBC.CO.UK
Kishor Shah Asad Raheel :

1. Honests, these days, rarely rise to PM post.
2. Thre are three angles to power in Pakistan i.e. Civillian Govt, Millitary Establishment and
Judiciary. It is apperant that govt is singled out and are trying to survive. ...See More
Asad Raheel http://tvnz.co.nz/.../us-marines-in-urination-video...

US Marines in urination video identified
The US Marines have identified the unit whose forces are suspected of being behind a video appearing to
show soldiers urinating on the bodies of dead
TVNZ.CO.NZ
13 January 2012 at 00:15 Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel http://www.columnspk.com/countdown-by-ikram-sehgal/

Countdown? by Ikram Sehgal | Columnspk.com | English Newspaper Columns,
News, Top Stories, World New
Finally, the Supreme Court simply ran out of patience with the governments...
COLUMNSPK.COM

Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../us-drone-strike-kills-four...
US drone strike kills four militants: officials
expert opinions.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel ISI's INVOLVEMENT IN JOURNALIST's MURDER NOT FOUND:

ISLAMABAD - The high-level judicial inquiry commission constituted by the government to
investigate the alleged involvement of Pakistan's powerful security and intelligence
establishment in the May 20...See More
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and
Pakistan
Asia Times Online. The Asia News Hub providing the latest news and analysis...
Asad Raheel Pakistan's Supreme Court Monday ruled Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in
contempt of court for failing to push ahead with investigations into allegations of graft
against the country's president, opening the door for future legal moves to oust the go...See
More
Pakistan Court Rules Premier in Contempt

Pakistan's Supreme Court Monday ruled Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in contempt of court for failing to
push ahead with investigations into allegations...
ONLINE.WSJ.COM|BY TOM WRIGHT
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Asad Raheel Calling President Asif Ali Zardari the biggest thief, Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf
(PTI) chairman Imran Khan said that the government is sabotaging the courts in order to hide
its thefts.
http://tribune.com.pk/.../zardari-biggest-thief-govt.../
Zardari biggest thief, govt sabotaging courts to hide inefficiencies: Imran Khan
Speaking to media, PTI chairman reiterates support for judiciary, dispels...
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Kishor Shah Is Pakistan court absolutely free from political considerations ? If not; then we
should enjoy the drama as how it unfolds and how smartly the actors perform.
Asad Raheel Days before Pervez Musharraf's planned return to Pakistan from self-exile, a
grandson of slain Baloch nationalist leader Akbar Bugti has put a bounty worth Rs 10.1 crore
on the former military ruler's head.

"We will give Rs 1 million (10 lakh) in cash...See More
Rs 10 crore bounty for killing Musharraf - Hindustan Times
Days before Pervez Musharraf's planned return to Pakistan from self-exile, a grandson of slain Baloch
nationalist leader Akbar Bugti has put a bounty worth...
Tinker Smile Why Mr. Gilani didnt go to Supreme Court to stop the so called Military take
over ? Why did Mr. Gilani went to Uncle Obama and his Cousins British & French
Diplomates ?
Why Mr. Gilani degrading his own country by creating divisions among institutions ?
Mr. Gilani job is to enhace and elevate the image of Pakistan and build a united Pakistan, He
has totally failed in these objectives.
Asad Raheel ...in addition to that Tinker Smile, he (the PM) has been a total failure on the
home front ie the economy & internal security...& had he not perhaps this matter wud not hav
been taken as seriously. Moreover, he has also flouted verdicts of the Supreme...See More
Tinker Smile @ Rajotavo DasGupta, there is no doubt Pakistan SC has emerged as Patriotic
Independent Juditiary. Mr Gilani Job is to unite and strengthen Pakistan. Pakistan dont need a
Prime Minister who can not accomplish these goals. There is no need for a fresh election,
Pakistan need a new Prime Minister who could unite the national institutions.
Tinker Smile Why SC has to follow your tests, SC is an Independent Patriotic Juditiary, they
will do what they think is right for Pakistan, and everybody else need to respect their
decisions.
Asad Raheel Rajotavo DasGupta, the party of the PM (the PPP) is by itself not
democratic...its a family fiefdom (with the Bhutto part of the family having been hijacked by
the Zardari part). Secondly, coz of this very reason the PM has flouted the SC orders, now
f...See More
Asad Raheel Successful crisis management can make heroes & if the PM of Pakistan can
steer himself out of this crisis, he shall turn into one, indeed!! However, prima faci, that does
not appear to be the case. Moreover, for even letting things to come to such a so...See More
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: The National Assembly on Monday endorsed a resolution in

favour of democracy originally moved by Awami National Party (ANP) leader Asfandyar
Wali Khan, DawnNews reported.
Addressing the NA session, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said tha...See More
NA adopts pro-democracy resolution
The National Assembly on Monday endorsed an ammended resolution in favour of democracy, DawnNews
reported.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../thirteen-dead-in-clash-with-armed...

Thirteen dead in clash with armed militants in Musakhel
At least 13 people were killed Monday as security forces clashed with unidentified armed militants in
Musakhel district of Balochistan, DawnNews...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel FOR some years, Pakistan has been in the crosshairs of change, a change that is
not acceptable to some, not enough for others, and too late for still others.
http://www.dawn.com/.../16/in-the-cross-hairs-of-change.html
In the cross-hairs of change
FOR some years, Pakistan has been in the crosshairs of change, a change that is not acceptable to some,
not enough for others, and too late for still others.
DAWN.COM
Kishor Shah PM Gilani was very good at legislature yesterday.

Asad Raheel http://www.cbsnews.com/.../analysis-pakistani-crisis.../

Analysis: Pakistani crisis shows army's limits - CBS News
Analysis: Pakistani crisis shows army's limits
BY CBSNEWS.COM
Tinker Smile Mr. Gilani was cornered to respect SC, Actual SC orders are on its way for
implementations, no body no matter how big can not escape from SC now, not Zardari, not
Gilani.
Ramadoss Praveen Raj The Problem with Pak is,it forms the Border of Islam, blocked from
going further into Secular India, Nepal & China. Guess,Turkey too has problems with Greece
and Chechenya with its neighbour.Its all Insha Allah, mixing religion with Politics
19 January 2012 at 17:01
Asad Raheel LISTEN to the apparently only HOPE left for Pakistan...its Leader, IMRAN
KHAN
http://www.ndtv.com/.../the-age-of-martial-law.../221373...
The age of martial law is over in Pakistan: Imran Khan
As Pakistan's opposition demands the exit of President Asif Ali Zardari-led civilian government due to
escalating crisis in the country, there is just one...
NDTV.COM
Anuradha Baqaya Chak Imran Khan and India the twin hopes of Pakistan
Asad Raheel & of course Anuradha Chak, also!!

Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/19/the-ties-that-bind.html

The ties that bind | Blog | DAWN.COM
As Pakistan continues to untangle its national crises, a key issue playing out in the background is the
countrys relationship with the United States, which...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../six-times-the-cost-pakistan.../

Six times the cost: Pakistan Nato blockade proves costly for US
Pakistan shut two border crossings for Nato containers after a US air strike...
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Asad Raheel As the MEMOGATE Hi Drama unfolds...here is another side to the Multifaceted personality of the Central Figure in it...Mr Mansoor Ijaz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWMXHZ2teic&feature=related
Mansoor Ijaz in "Stupidisco"
Part of a music video starring Mansoor Ijaz, a key figure in Pakistan's "Memogate."
YOUTUBE.COM
Leo Safavid I think that Mansoor Ijaz is part of a conspiracy to trap the PPP Government &
its leader, Zardari. I have no doubt in my mind that Zardari & Co are corrupt & the
governance stinks. But, I feel the same way about Sharifs as well. And, I am not yet c...See
More
Asad Raheel http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16655125

Pakistan's political soap opera
Owen Bennett Jones finds a never-ending national drama among the county's political elite.
BBC.CO.UK
Tayuba Jamil Badnaam hoey gar tau agar naam tau ho gaa
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/21/why-collective-suicide.html

Why collective suicide?
UNLESS Mansoor Ijaz finally arrives in Pakistan and makes an explosive statement before the memogate
commission, the next couple of weeks are...
DAWN.COM
Leo Safavid Asad, Mansoor Ijaz's answer to Zakaria's question in the video posted by
Rajotavo DasGupta makes no sense at all. I am afraid, at least I could not follow his logic. It
reminds me of Ghalib's verse 'Buk raha houn junooN mein kiya kuchh mein; kuchh na...See
More
Asad Raheel Tinker Smile, apparently Zardari & Gilani may appear to be cornered as u hav
observed but facts on ground are not exactly so & as to why is this? Its coz all state
institutions of Pak hav skeletons in their closet...Not one of them is Mr Clean...incl t...See
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Leo Safavid Asad, I agree with your analysis of the current situation. Pakistan & all its
institutions remain elitist & the masses have never been the real concern of any of its power
brokers. Not till the masses get educated, freed from feudal claws, and econom...See More
but my only concern is that Reuven Kossover advocates for 9/11 type attack on UN
headquarters which might cause some international furore were he to take charge of PM duty
of Pakistan But, I am sure he can manage such small hurdles to come out with flying colours,
given his experience and never-say-die(only kill :-)) attitude

Junaid A. Malik I just noticed that this discussion got sidetracked from it's core subject i.e.
Afghan war, towards a meaningless debate on Pakistan, it's establishment and it's political
leadership.
I was wondering why people still think that Pakistan is a sovereign...See More
Asad Raheel Thanx fr ur input Malik Junaid Abbas...admittedly, it is sidetracking from the
caption...but somehow this has ended up to be a Pakistan dedicated thread...since Pak tends to
remain in the News...news related to Pak, is posted & discussed, here.
Junaid A. Malik Coming back to the real subject, I think I have few points to share;
Afghan war started because of the 9-11 incident. I am still unable to understand what exactly
was the motive when the war started.
...See More
Leo Safavid Besides, our Establishment does regard Afghanistan as rightfully within their
domain. 'Muslim hain watan hai, saara jahaaN humaara'.
Asad Raheel Now u r spot on...Malik Junaid Abbas

Junaid A. Malik Thanx Asad Raheel Now I would request you to address the points I have
raised on Afghan War and share your valuable input. (if you don't mind)
Asad Raheel will do so in due course...Malik Junaid Abbas...presently busy...Leo Safavid, if

u r online cud u plz address them, now. Moreover Junaid, many of ur points hav already been
addressed much higher up in this long thread.
Asad Raheel For me it just doesnt matter whos behind them. They are not going to stop
me from coming. They can do what they want. And I say very clearly to the government, to
those in the government, to the Interior Minister, who has made a lot of different sta...See More
Mansoor Ijaz Once an Enemy of Pak Army Now its Savior and Hero!
Pakistani Politics Discussion Forum.
SIASAT.PK
Asad Raheel http://www.newsweekpakistan.com/scope/788

Zardari Clings On
Newsweek Pakistan, the country's largest circulation newsmagazine and premier news source.
NEWSWEEKPAKISTAN.COM|BY NEWSWEEK PAKISTAN
Asad Raheel http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Taliban-releases-horrific...

Taliban releases horrific video of executions of 15 Pakistani soldiers
WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT Before the video was released, the soldiers...
DAILYMAIL.CO.UK
Asad Raheel http://www.ndtv.com/.../i-have-not-fled-from-pakistan...

I have not fled from Pakistan: Zardari's media advisor
Farahnaz Ispahani, President Asif Ali Zardari's media adviser and wife of former envoy to US Husain
Haqqani, on Monday rejected a media report that she...
NDTV.COM
Asad Raheel Even the CJP can at best be called CONTROVERSIAL.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php...
SH. RASHEED Views about CJ Ifikhar .mp4
Shaikh Rasheed Views about the CHIEF JUSTICE OF PAKISTAN IFTIKHAR MOHAMMAD CHAUDHRY..
This interview was aired on Business Plus TV in...
YOUTUBE.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.smh.com.au/.../us-steps-outside-the-law-as-the...

US steps outside the law as the war on terror drones on
US steps outside the law as the war on terror drones on
SMH.COM.AU
Johnny Barrani Interesting conversation. My gratitude to Asad Raheel especially, I have

certainly learned a lot from you.
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD: A direct intervention by Chief of the Army Staff Gen Ashfaq
Parvez Kayani and warning of an enhanced response had finally brought to a halt Natos air
strikes on Volcano and Boudak posts in Mohmand agency on Nov 26 last year.
http://www.dawn.com/.../kayanis-warning-brought-nato...
Kayanis warning brought Nato strikes to halt: military
ISLAMABAD, Jan 23: A direct intervention by Chief of the Army Staff Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and warning
of an enhanced response had finally...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel If not Drones, bombs, Natural disaters...then there always is something else in
store fr Pakistan
http://www.newspakistan.pk/2012/01/24/10252/
Contaminated cardiac medicines take 72 lives hitherto
Contaminated cardiac medicines take 72 lives hitherto With 72 deaths have been reported thus far, the
provincial government of Punjab has decided to...
NEWSPAKISTAN.PK
Asad Raheel http://www.sananews.net/.../pentagon-rejects-pak-army.../

Pentagon rejects Pak army report on NATO attack
WASHINGTON,(SANA): The United States rejected the findings of a Pakistani probe into NATO air strikes
that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in late November,...
SANANEWS.NET
Asad Raheel I have rieterated since the outset, that Pak, when invited...shud hav sent its Rep
to the then ongoing US inquiry...That it did not...was another MISTAKE.
Asad Raheel Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's upper house of parliament passed a
resolution demanding Pervez Musharraf be arrested and tried for treason for unconstitutional
acts during his regime, a senator said.
http://edition.cnn.com/.../pakistan-musharraf/index.html
Pakistani Senate wants Musharraf tried for treason - CNN.com
Pakistan's upper house of parliament passed a resolution demanding Pervez...
CNN.COM|BY NASIR HABIB, CNN
Leo Safavid They must be really afraid of Musharraf. Almost ALL the politicians are united
on this point. They would not stop at any thing. Next they might try to take away his
Pakistani citizenship. And, that would not surprise me. Bloody cowards, traitors, & idiots.
They all loved him in the uniform & could not stop kissing his arse.
Asad Raheel The Pakistani MINDSET:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp...
DAILYTIMES.COM.PK
Asad Raheel Rasul Baksh Rais, head of Political Science at Lahore University of
Management Sciences, says, I think Mansoor Ijaz is bold. He has courage, he has a sense of
responsibility and a commitment to greater values like peace, stability, and democratic
orde...See More
Who is Mansoor Ijaz? The US businessman behind Pakistan's 'Memo-gate'
A whistle blowing hero to some, a villain doing the Pakistan military's dirty work...
CSMONITOR.COM|BY THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR
Asad Raheel The Pakistani PM appears to be bent upon walking down Martyrdom Lane.
Such a statement is no surprise from one who went straight from Jail to the PM house (& now
possibly back to jail??)
http://tribune.com.pk/.../no-objection-in-going-to.../
No objection on going to prison if so Supreme Court desires: Gilani
President, Prime Minister, Foreign Minister have immunity under constitution,...
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Kishor Shah Prime Minister is an elected post and it has strong connection with perceptions
of people. PM Gilani is taking a very calculated risk, as I see and rightly so.
Asad Raheel Is it not a question of the Pot calling the Kettle Black?
http://zeenews.india.com/.../musharraf-will-certainly-be...
Musharraf will certainly be arrested: Gilani
Pakistan news - Pervez Musharraf had announced this month he planned to return Pakistan from selfimposed exile between January 27 and 30.
ZEENEWS.INDIA.COM
Asad Raheel Article by an Indian Lawyer: "NEGOTIATION US STYLE"

LIKE individuals, nations have a style, an attitude and an outlook. They are reflected most
strikingly in the style of their diplomacy. Our region is at a crossroads today. Afghanistan
holds the key ...See More
Negotiation US style
LIKE individuals, nations have a style, an attitude and an outlook. They are reflected most strikingly in the
style of their diplomacy. Our region is at a...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel In a statement issued on Sunday, a US Embassy spokesperson explained

Panetta had talked about the presence of any supporting network in Pakistan. He said no
evidence was found about the involvement of Pakistani government about Bin Ladens
presence.
http://www.sananews.net/.../us-embassy-clarifies-panetta.../.
US embassy clarifies Panetta remarks regarding Osama presence in Pak
ISLAMABAD, (SANA): The United States has denied Defense Secretary Leon...
SANANEWS.NET
Asad Raheel http://tehrantimes.com/.../94948-islamabad-warned-not-to...Islamabad warned not to reopen NATO routes

Tehran Times - Iran's Leading International Daily
TEHRANTIMES.COM|BY TEHRAN TIMES
Asad Raheel http://gulfnews.com/.../cricketer-turned-politician-khan...

Cricketer-turned-politician Khan vows to sweep Pakistan polls
Pakistan heading to bigger revolution than Arab Spring, Tehreek chief says
GULFNEWS.COM
Asad Raheel Anatol Lieven, the celebrated author of wrote the other day about a strong
tendency in US official circles and in the US media to treat the Pakistani state as the enemy in
Afghanistan.
This untenable over-simplification of a highly complex phenomeno...See More
A reality check
IT is an irony of history that international interest in Afghanistan has nearly always been driven by great
strategic contests amongst predatory outside...
DAWN.COM
Kishor Shah Unfortunately, Pakistan is the economical route for central asian oil/gas. At
times advantageous position makes one more vulnerable.
Asad Raheel http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../pakistan-60-killed-fighting...
Pakistan: more than 60 killed in fighting between military and Taliban

16 troops and 50 insurgents killed in Kurram since last week At least 10...
GUARDIAN.CO.UK
Asad Raheel DISCUSSION ON THE ARTICLE: NEGOTIATION US STYLE

Bill Miessner Asad - I think this statement in your Op-Ed is absurd....See More
1 February 2012 at 03:20 Like
Asad Raheel Yups Bill Miessner...maybe the US was not as keen fr democracy by itself as it
was fr Benazir Bhutto (BB) to return to power...which was worked out under the deal...by the
that time US secretary of state. At times i wonder whether it was also a factor ...See More
Bill Miessner I have no doubt that the U.S. was/is pushing for a Pakistani government that
was/is friendly towards the West, and one they can work with. However, "real" democracy is
basically impossible (right now) for Pakistan due to its large population of the poor and
uneducated and the number of (intense) rival factions (even more so in Afghanistan).
1 February 2012 at 05:00 Like 1
Asad Raheel Spot on Bill Miessner

Asad Raheel Imtiaz Risaldar..." but to be very honest the biggest mistake which Pakistan
committed was to seek parity with India since inception"
There is a lot of weight in ur argument. However, u may also consider that Pakistan was
ahead of India in most econom...See More
1 February 2012 at 12:14 Unlike 2
Asad Raheel The irony is tha many people in Pak are not cogisant of all this or refuse to be
so...and they subscribe to "Jiyae Bhutto!!"
Asad Raheel Agreed... Zia did only one gud thing in his entire decade of rule...he hung
ZAB!!
Whereas the major onus fr the country's paradigm shift towards religion falls on the onus of
Zia, incl promulgation of Islamic Laws, the onus fr legally pronouncing the Ahmadee
community as non-muslim (& hence, this community's consequent persecution thereafter) &
promulgation of the Prohibition Ordinance, solely fall on ZAB.
Asad Raheel Mr Baheer said that he met CIA chief Gen (retired) David Petraeus, Afghan
President Hamid Karzai and Nato Commander John R. Allen on recent visit to Kabul and
discussed with them the situation in war-torn Afghanistan.
http://www.dawn.com/.../ice-breaks-between-us-hizb-i...
Ice breaks between US, Hizb-i-Islami
Recent preliminary talks held between them would create opportunity for more meaningful talks in the
future, said Ghairat Baheer, political adviser to...
DAWN.COM
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Asad Raheel http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../afghans-us-taliban-pakistan...

Afghans react to US claims that Taliban supported by Pakistan - video
Residents of Kabul give their reaction to claims in a leaked US military report...
GUARDIAN.CO.UK
Asad Raheel KABUL: The US military said in a secret report that the Taliban, backed by
Pakistan, are set to retake control of Afghanistan after NATO-led forces withdraw, raising the
prospect of a major failure of Western policy after a costly war.
Lieutenant Colon...See More
Afghan Taliban poised to retake Afghanistan once westerners leave: Report
NATO confirms existence of secret report leaked by BBC on Wednesday
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Reuven Kossover Why is this no surprise to me?

Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../ms-khar-dismisses-nato-criticism...

Khar dismisses Nato criticism as old wine in even older bottle
KABUL, Feb 1: Pakistan said on Wednesday it had no hidden agenda in...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel PAKISTAN: http://www.dawn.com/.../air-strikes-kill-38-militants-in...

Air strikes kill 38 militants in Kurram, Orakzai
PARACHINAR, Feb 1: Military planes bombed suspected militant positions in Kurram and Orakzai agencies
on Wednesday and officials claimed that 38...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel PRIME MINISTER of PAKISTAN to be INDICTED for Contempt:

http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=33598
PM Gilani to be indicted in contempt case, summoned on Feb 13
ISLAMABAD: The seven-member larger bench of the Supreme Court (SC)...
GEO.TV
Asad Raheel WHY PAKISTAN DOES NOT TAKE ON THE AFGHAN TALIBAN??
Unfortunately, the reality appears to be that the Taliban will take over Kabul, once NATO
leaves Afghanistan. That I foresaw this happening...approx nine months ago...I had created
this thread & had a...See More
Ronald Reagan Dedication for Afghan Mujahideen - 1
Haqqani Network, Proxy War & US History of Proxy War.http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/haqqaninetwork-proxy-war-us-hist...
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3 February 2012 at 13:29 Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel In view of the AFORESAID and the fol FACTS

a. that Pak & its ISI hav been instrumental to providing the US/ killing the main Al-Quaeda
operatives, (with the stark exception of OBLwho was not the main operative, Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed, whom the ISI ca...See More
Asad Raheel COMMENTS by (1) Sandra Van Hoecke Excellent summary Asad Raheel. I
think at the end of the day, no the end did not justify the means. It was a tremendous waste of
life and treasury. And you are right, how can Pakistan be expected to defeat the Afghan
T...See More
Kishor Shah Asad Raheel : At hind sight Knee jerk reaction was bad and USA was carried
away by jingoistic feelings.
However, let us hope that correction should be well thought out and well deliberated, atleast.
Why not put forward your thoughts on process of corrections.
Asad Raheel Further COMBAT between the Taliban & Pak Security Forces:
http://www.dawn.com/.../seven-soldiers-killed-in-kurram...
Seven soldiers killed in Kurram attack
expert opinions.
DAWN.COM
Johnny Barrani condolences Asad Raheel

Sandra Vh Megan S Mills, I know the US has given Pak a lot of money to deal with
Afghanistan, but the point Asad makes is still valid. The US spent what, a trillion, to defeat
the Taliban over the last decade and couldn't do it. How should Pakistan be able to do it?
Maybe I misunderstand your point.
Megan S Mills check out PK 'effort' of last decade... Afghans see the 'problem' rather
differently.
Asad Raheel //Afghans see the 'problem' rather differently//

...& which Afghans are u referring to Megan S Mills...the minority Northern Alliance?...& do
u not consider the majority ie Pashtuns...70% of the populace from which the Afghan Taliban
hail...Afghans...at all!!
Megan S Mills as you know, mixed bag

Bruce Rosenberg Asad Raheel: Your analysis of Pakistan's multi-dimensional dilemma is

extremely detailed. I've never seen such an analysis. I think it clearly demonstrates the
absolute hypocrisy of the moving target called "realpolitik". My overwhelming reaction
t...See More
Reuven Kossover Dr. Asad Raheel, on your FB page, it says "works for Gov't of Pakistan."
One deduces reasonably that you love your country. Most people do. But in your writing
recently, you seen to sense that for various reasons, your country is falling apart. For...See
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Asad Raheel I've retired recently frm Military service Mr Reuven Kossover. Paks is not yet
falling apart but admittedly, if this state of affairs persists...incl the civil war, there is grave
threat.
I can only say there is lack of political will to defeat Taliban - US Govt cannot shift the
blame fully on Pak and negotiate now with Taliban in the eleventh hour, it is a total failure
'tactic', almost equivalent to admitting a political defeat to forces of extremism
Brian Cuffari In Republican circles, particularly among the candidates campaigning for
President, they still think the Taliban can be defeated outright, or at least they pander to that
sentiment.
5 February 2012 at 08:37 Unlike 2
the right wing jokers all around the world pander to ultra-nationalism and religious
bigotry - but their output is BIG ZERO
Megan S Mills I think it's somewhat Worse than being right wing or ultra nationalist
Asad Raheel Senthil Ind..."there is lack of political will to defeat Taliban"

I wud not say that the Afghan Taliban cannot be defeated...but the correct time to address this
concern is not now; it was so, in 1994/95 when the Taliban movement arose
spontaneously. ...See More
Identity of al-Qaeda militant killed in Kurram revealed
An Azerbaijani national Aslanov Zaur, was among the six militants killed during clashes with security forces
on Feb 1.
DAWN.COM
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wow that was a solid detailed analysis Asad

Kishor Shah I think the hidden collateral objective could be to install a convenient regime
which would fecilitate the movement of Central Asian oil through AFG.
Kishor Shah Rajotavo DasGupta : At this time US + Allies want to come out of AFG. They
just want to ensure that AFG does fall in the lap of Pakistan after their leaving.
I think by this time Turkmenistan - China pipe line is operative and west is losing
interest ...See More
Asad Raheel Kishor Shah...Oh the TAPI (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India)

pipeline. Well, I do'nt think it to be a hidden objective...in my opinion that is a bona fide
objective, foremost fr the welfare & economic uplift of the people of Afghanistan &
second...See More
Bruce Rosenberg Asad Raheel: Interesting post about negotiation style of various countries.
The idea is provocative, however the author has a very obvious anti-U.S. bias and quoting
Trita Parsi is a dead giveaway of either his naivete or his mendacity.
Asad Raheel Islamabad, (IANS) Pakistan has lost Rs.8,500 billion ($94 billion) in
corruption, tax evasion and bad governance during the rule of Prime Minister Yousuf Raza
Gilani, graft watchdog Transparency International Pakistan (TIP) has said.
http://nvonews.com/.../94-bn-graft-mars-gilani-government/
$94 bn graft mars Gilani government | Northern Voices Online: NVO News Blog
Islamabad, (IANS) Pakistan has lost Rs.8,500 billion ($94 billion) in corruption,...
NVONEWS.COM
Asad Raheel Brian Cuffari, Senthil Ind, Kishor Shah, Imtiaz Risaldar, Leo Safavid
Asad Raheel Imtiaz Risaldar you may write anything u like! Trust me...& if u do not u may
see remarks on this very thread eg by Hamayun Afghan etc
Megan S Mills think the pipeline theory disproved about 5 years ago.
Kishor Shah Elected govts wasting public resources by way of graft or other options is one
of the short comings of DEMOCRATIC form of govts. This shortcoming, practically,
challenges the very idea of democracy.
This sickness visible all over and Pakistan is no exception. The champions of DEMOCRACY
have to address this short coming promptly before insisting on poliferation of democracy, as I
think.
Asad Raheel Very well said Kishor Shah

Kishor Shah Asad Raheel : TAPI is proposed but I understand Turkmenistan - China gas line
is now operative which means AFG has already incurred loss of future profit, to a degree.
Asad Raheel Megan S Mills...[ think the pipeline theory disproved about 5 years ago].
sorry, I am not familiar with this theory...cud u plz elaborate?...Thanx
Asad Raheel A 5,370-mile (8,700-kilometre) natural gas pipeline linking Turkmenistan with
southern China has begun operating, helping boost supplies to the countrys booming
industrial zones.
http://dcnonl.com/article/id45163
Turkmenistan-China pipeline feeds growing gas market Daily Commercial
News
A 5,370-mile (8,700-kilometre) natural gas pipeline linking Turkmenistan with...
DCNONL.COM
Megan S Mills 2001-2, a lot of assertions to do with U.S. aims in Afghanistan centred on a
pipeline from Central Asia enabling high sales in India. (about the only resource India does
not possess). "Naturally" assumed that military industrial complex and US corporations in
collusion. A theory ignoring strategic location of Afghanistan and half a dozen other
possibilities.
Asad Raheel http://www.agi.it/.../201202081121-cro-ren1025-u_s_drone...

AGI.it - U. S. DRONE KILLS 10 HAQQANI MILITANTS IN PAKISTAN
(AGI) Miramshah - A. U.S. drone attacked a house in North Waziristan, the...
AGI.IT|BY AGI - AGENZIA GIORNALISTICA ITALIA
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../pakistan-russia-agree-to.../

Pakistan, Russia agree to promote bilateral relations
Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar meets her Russian counterpart Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov in Moscow.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
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Asad Raheel Imtiaz Risaldar...u need not reiterate about "ill intentions".
A visit by a FM does not imply fiting into a game plan....See More
Asad Raheel http://www.newspakistan.pk/.../Pakistan-resumes-talks.../
Pakistan resumes talks with Nato and Afghan forces

Pakistan resumes talks with Nato and Afghan forces After a deadlock of more than two months, Pakistan
Army has finally agreed to resume talks with the...
NEWSPAKISTAN.PK
Asad Raheel ARTICLES: (1) US house committee hearing on Balochistan. (2) Carve Out
Balochistan From Ally Pakistan To Beat Taliban & other related articles
http://sarjau.blogspot.com/
sarjau
SARJAU.BLOGSPOT.COM|BY SARJAU
Asad Raheel The US State dept has however distanced itself by saying it has nothing to do
with the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations discussion on Baluchistan.
Brian Cuffari I think the idea that the Taliban can be "beaten" is one of the most misguided
goals driving U.S. foreign policy. It doesn't seem to me to be the type of group that one can
just "beat".
Asad Raheel http://www.csmonitor.com/.../US-drone-strikes-in.../(page)/2

US drone strikes in Pakistan on rise again
A US drone killed three suspected militants in Pakistan's northwest tribal region, including the de facto leader
of Al Qaeda, in the second such attack in as...
CSMONITOR.COM|BY THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR
Reuven Kossover [It (the Taliban) doesn't seem to me to be the type of group that one can
just "beat".] Even Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote about the Brits getting kicked in the butts by
the Pashtun (Dr. Watson was saved by the orderly Murray after getting hit by a Jezail bullet in
Sherlock Holmes novels) - and the Taliban are Pashtuns, hateful as they are otherwise.
Leo Safavid First I need to make a few corrections regarding certain historical errors
mentioned regarding Balochistan.
Most of the territory of Balochistan was directly under the British rule. A tiny portion, known
as Kalat, was recognized by the British as fal...See More
Indrajit Gupta Please read the actual wording in the Indian Independence Act for
yourselves. There is no provision for anything 'prescribed' in that Act, merely the acceptance
of a situation where a princely state either acceded to India or to Pakistan.
States which...See More
Asad Raheel MAP of the so called Greater Baluchistan (the Area in Mauve)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/.../620px-Major_ethnic_groups...
UPLOAD.WIKIMEDIA.ORG
Asad Raheel MAP of Kalat (the Area in Red)...a part of Pakistani Baluchistan...a princely
state at the time of Partition
http://upload.wikimedia.org/.../commons/6/6a/Kalat_Map.gif
UPLOAD.WIKIMEDIA.ORG
Asad Raheel QUESTIONS:

(1) That Kalat was only a part of the Baluchistan province of Pakistan & that only Kalat's
legal accession to Pak at the time of partition, has been impugned (amply debunked ante
by Leo Safavid) how come the whole of Baluchistan's accession...See More
Leo Safavid It is ironic as to how artificial boundaries on the political map assume such
sacrosanct status while neglecting the will and the wishes of the people. I hope there would
come a time when humans will assume the central position rather than a piece of ...See More
Asad Raheel (Self) Exiled Baloch leader Brahumdagh Bugti has called on India to back the
secessionist struggle in Pakistan's largest province, saying international pressure is necessary
to prevent what he described as a massacre of an entire people.
http://www.thehindu.com/.../international/article2920887.ece
The Hindu : News / International : Exiled Baloch leader seeks Indian backing
Exiled Baloch leader Brahumdagh Bugti has called on India to back the...
THEHINDU.COM|BY PRAVEEN SWAMI
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/.../web-extra.../
GPS web extra: Dempsey skeptical about Taliban talks
On GPS this week, Fareed had an exclusive interview with the top-ranking military officer in the U.S.,
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Martin...
GLOBALPUBLICSQUARE.BLOGS.CNN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.thehindu.com/.../international/article2928362.ece

The Hindu : News / International : Pak refrains from accusing India on
Balochistan trouble
In a marked departure, Pakistan on Friday steered clear of accusing India of...
THEHINDU.COM|BY ANITA JOSHUA
Asad Raheel http://www.thenewstribe.com/.../us-lawmaker-calls-for.../...

US lawmaker calls for end to human rights violation in Balochistan
Islamabad: US lawmaker David David Dreier has said that violation of human...
THENEWSTRIBE.COM
Asad Raheel http://online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424052970203833004577247...

NATO's Afghan Mission Cast in Doubt
The U.S. mission to train and advise Afghan security forces is facing unprecedented strains, as a the U.S.led coalition withdrew its advisers in...
ONLINE.WSJ.COM|BY DION NISSENBAUM
Deadly bombing at Afghan airport
A suicide car bomb attack at Jalalabad airport in eastern Afghanistan leaves at least three people dead,
police say.
BBC.CO.UK
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../afghan-child-hunger-among-worst...

Afghan child hunger among worst in world: report
Dawn.com is the nations leading voice for the latest breaking news and trusted top stories from
Pakistan. Dawn.com covers news from South Asia including...
DAWN.COM
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Kishor Shah One of the serious mistakes of US in AFG is ignorance of general mass. Had
they had attended agriculture in AFG instead contracts to be given to foreign companies
things would have been different. They are unable to think beyond brute force strength but
you need very good softwares along with good hardwares.
5 March 2012 at 20:33 Like 2
Asad Raheel http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta2/tft/article.php...

Editorial: GHQ must take joint-ownership of US-Pak relations by Najam Sethi
THEFRIDAYTIMES.COM
Asad Raheel http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../arti.../12479911.cms

US may turn to India if talks with Pakistan fail: Report - The Economic Times
If Pak does not reopen the NATO supply lines to Afghanistan that were closed...
Asad Raheel Yes Imtiaz Risaldar, that was the first question, which intrigued me.
31 March 2012 at 22:51 Like
Asad Raheel Yes agreed Imtiaz Risaldar, that is one possibility but there may be more to it
that meets the eyes.
31 March 2012 at 23:55 Like 1
Kishor Shah Transport US materials via Iran under Indian banner seems grossly unintelliget
idea. Millitary goods of US in AFG is a threat to Iran and India can not even make such
proposal to Iran to jeopardise its own interest.

Yes, it is more than what meets the eyes.
I assume Pakistan would buckle under US pressure eventually and if that does not happen
then US would wound up AFG operation unceremoniously, as I see.
1 April 2012 at 09:26 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://getpakistan.tv/2012/03/mar-6-front-line/

1 April 2012 at 13:25 Like
Asad Raheel Kishor Shah, Senthil Ind, Imtiaz Risaldar, Leo Safavid
good debate Asad, and almost all panel members were more forthright and honest
except Zaid Hamid. We have such clowns in India as well, who keep speaking same bullshit
about Hindutva, Hindu Rashtra etc etc!! such jokers can hardly be cured lolz
1 April 2012 at 14:23 Like 3
Kishor Shah Senthil Ind : Elimination of residual enmity takes very very long time.
My father was in Calcutta during 1946 onwards and he has seen the communal violence. We,
as children then, were not allowed to go near Zakaria Masjid and were not allowed to eat at
some restaurants till sixties.
However, my father now 86yrs is open and liberal. It is time which dissolves anti-feelings, as
I think.
1 April 2012 at 14:30 Unlike 5
Ajit Nair its getting better & better with every comment
wow
two big icons Asad 8hai, Senthil anna
Ajit Nair with Imtiaz & Kishore too in the fray the debate gets even better
Kishor Shah Thanks Ajit Nair. You are generous.

1 April 2012 at 14:35 Like 3
Agreed Kishorji, it is that very residual enimity and grievances that political parties
feed upon that directly result in communal violence and riots. Congress has long history of
minority appeasement and RSS, VHP and its side kick - BJP started making...See More
1 April 2012 at 14:39 Like 1
Ajit Nair its not generosity its the actual truth all of u are bringing out with u debates
Asad Raheel That Imtiaz Risaldar, is the TRILLION dollar question & the answer is
presently, unfortunately & probably, a NO.
1 April 2012 at 14:46 Like 2
Kishor Shah Post 1977 both parties, Congress & BJP - individually & jointly, have become
oligarchic and continues to follow a group of party oligarchs without indulging in intelligent
debate within. This has given rise to smaller parties and today, to me, smaller ...See More
that indeed is a positive development under current scenario although I am not

comfortable with idea of decentralized coalition of convenience and how effective it would
be while running central govt
1 April 2012 at 14:56 Like 1
I hope some pan-national or alliance of deserving regional parties steadies the ship,
people here where I live in Europe are progressing to newer levels while our countries in sub
continent keep holding on to past mistakes and fighting forever and forever in name of land,
religion, caste etc etc etc..
1 April 2012 at 15:35 Like 3
Kishor Shah Imtiaz Risaldar : I have a feeling that OLIGARCHIC AUTHORITARIANSHIP

has something to do with corruption. Otherwise most regional parties follow near similar
philosophy like Congress.
Congress is unable to form team with regional parties for their historic position in Indian
politics, as I think.
1 April 2012 at 20:59 Like 3
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../court-sentences-bin-laden-wives...

Court sentences bin Laden wives, daughters to prison
A Pakistani court on Monday sentenced former al Qaeda chief Osama bin Ladens three widows and two of
his daughters to a month and a half in prison...
DAWN.COM
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Asad Raheel http://www.indianexpress.com/.../bilawal-asks-sc.../932484/0

Bilawal asks SC to apologise for Zulfiqar Bhutto's 'judicial murder' - Indian
Express
Bilawal asks SC to apologise for Zulfiqar Bhutto's 'judicial murder' - Launching...
INDIANEXPRESS.COM
Asad Raheel http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../arti.../12531194.cms

Asif Ali Zardari takes on detractors on Zulfiqar's death anniversary - The
Economic Times
"Today, I again urge the opposition, let us work together to steer the country...
Asad Raheel The time of Reckoning fr Pakistan long due...has now come to haunt it. Next
week is likely to be eventful. Although the odds are against, the possibility of a Military
takeover, cannot be ruled out.
Brian Cuffari The Western perception of Zardari is that he is a feckless playboy with a taste
for foreign luxury. How accurate is this narrative, Asad?
5 April 2012 at 12:25 Like 1
Asad Raheel Thats fair description...but there are other aspects...criminal charges against
him.
5 April 2012 at 12:28 Like 1
Brian Cuffari Yes, didn't he have to receive a pardon for corruption charges in order to enter
the country to serve as President? And wouldn't the same have to be granted to Musharraf?
5 April 2012 at 12:38 Like 1
Asad Raheel If u see ante, there is a standoff between the govt & the Supreme court. The
Supreme court has ordered the govt to write a letter to the Swiss authorities to re-open the
corruption case against him in Switzerland & is holding the PM in contempt fr not ...See More
Asad Raheel Agreed Imtiaz Risaldar, the rational way out of this imbroglio wud be fr the
govt to call fr elections...but the govt is not considering that at all. In my opinion, it has
decided to go down as a martyr & thereby to play the sympathy card (& also the S...See More
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../avalanche-traps-about-150-pakistani.../

Avalanche traps about 150 Pakistani soldiers-media
An avalanche buried about 150 Pakistani soldiers near the Siachen glacier on the border with India.
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
what a tragedy.. regret the loss of lives

7 April 2012 at 16:14 Like 2

Chandra Kant Pathak Condolences to the family members of soldiers ,who met untimely
death in that avalanche disaster .
7 April 2012 at 16:32 Like 2
Asad Raheel Thankyou Senthil Ind & Chandra Kant Pathak

Asad Raheel Imtiaz Risaldar Asad Sahab : As we have read in the Indian papers, the head
money on Al Zawahiri is probably $ 20 million, $ 10 million on this guy HS and $ 2 million
on his brother-in-law.
As regards the timing - the Pakistanis would like us to beli...See More
Double game deepens - Hindustan Times
The bounty on Hafiz Saeed's head has upped the stakes between the US and Pakistan. If the ISI refuses to
bring Saeed to justice, it will be one more blow to...
Chandra Kant Pathak Really it pains wen people die for lack of our ability to know well in
advance : wht nature holds as disaster for us despite our advancement in many other fields
and it hurts even more if the tragedy hits our people , just away by that line on maps -drawn
by British .
Asad Raheel Indeed Chandra Kant Pathak : "that line on maps -drawn by British" are where
most of the conflicts of the World lie!
Asad Raheel Tinker Smile @Imtiaz Risaldar It is not a question of feelings, It is a question
of Justice, It is tempring with the Justice when you pay money to build witnesses. Why
American did it , it is to pressure Pakistan and tell Paksitan do what we are tellin...See More
Johnny Barrani My condolences to the families of the victims

8 April 2012 at 01:57 Like 1
Tinker Smile @ Lee take a survey, you will be surprised how many ppl are against terrorism.
alot n alot.
Yvonne Leadpencil No, You tell me, it was your statement.
Yvonne Leadpencil I want to know how much influence they have in government and how
much public support.
Yvonne Leadpencil You believe 'lots n lots' is not good enough..you want to give money to
'lot n lots'.
Tinker Smile I believe lots n lots n lots of millions of Pakistanis are against terrorism.
Yvonne Leadpencil lol

Asad Raheel Lee Simpson...Now yes that is the pertinent question....well they have so much
government & public support that they can hardly win a seat in the Parliament eg this bloke
Saeed Hafiz or his party does not have a a SINGLE such seat.
Yvonne Leadpencil So far the only Pakistanis I have seen who have tried to change things in
Parliament have ended up in the ground.
Asad Raheel That is another issue Lee Simpson...right now its terrorism...replies to ur many
queries & answers to them wud be available in the questionnaire...(which is still in progress)
to Imtiaz Risaldar...(who does not believe in terrorism at all) & the replies that he gives to it.
By the way the questionnaire is titled, "COCKTAIL of Terrorism".
Asad Raheel QUESTIONNAIRE (COCKTAIL of Terrorism) : Asad Raheel Imtiaz Imtiaz

Risaldar: I wud hav rather not gone into this...or at least not yet...coz I'm just on the verge of
taking another break...but since u have taken the initiative, not that it was unexpecte...See More
Tinker Smile @ Lee, criminal are criminals dont link a criminal with humanity, Timothy
killed so many people, so do you think everybody is Timothy.
Asad Raheel (7) Although David Hadley pleaded guilty in Mar 2010, has his trial
completed? If so when was it completed & why has he been not been sentenced?
(8) Is it not correct that the US had provided complete access to the Indian investigators to
David Hadley...See More
Yvonne Leadpencil I have been following this on the news here...what a tragedy!!!. I feel so
sorry for their families too!
Yvonne Leadpencil Is there really any need to have troops in the most hostile environments
in the world?
Yvonne Leadpencil wow Asad...you are brave!

Asad Raheel been there...served there...seen it happen!!

Asad Raheel two to tango, love & war!!

Asad Raheel Comment by Kishor Shah : Tinker Smile Imtiaz Risaldar : The informations I,
now, have is that HS is the main accused in two cases in India and in another three cases he
has booked as co-conspirator in India.
Kishor Shah Thanks Asad Raheel :

I am of the opinion that when a man is visibly available then he should tried under laws only.
Otherwise he is prompting us into a trap like following Perceptive Justice which the culprit
follows.
This ultimately divides population...See More
8 April 2012 at 11:55 Like 2
Kishor Shah Asad Raheel : I do not have detailed info on this but I try to avail and revert.
8 April 2012 at 12:00 Like 1
Asad Raheel Lee Simpson : Your question about the Pak parliament is also relevant. Its
totally inept. Pak had till so far two major parties (which are family dynasties, therefore not
themselves democratic, how can they uphold parliamentary tradition?)...a third on...See More

Yvonne Leadpencil Thank you for that explanation Asad. So Pakistan is not a democracy
with a Parliament at all, it is a feudal state. Why bother going through the election process I
wonder.
As for Hafiz Saeed, isn't he a tool of the ISI and that is why he opposes op...See More
8 April 2012 at 14:45 Like 1
Asad Raheel Lee Simpson : "So Pakistan is not a democracy with a Parliament at all, it is a
feudal state".
Yep democracy in name...feudalism rules the roost...See More
Asad Raheel Imtiaz Risaldar...thanx fr ur response. I'm not replying right now to it...maybe
will do so later...foremost coz
a. I'm not inclined to make this forum as an Indo Pak...shouting match (which many forums,
incl the one run by u tend to be, if a pakistani visits or remains there)....See More
Asad Raheel http://www.canada.com/.../Hopes+fade.../6427471/story.html

Hopes fade for 135 feared dead in Pakistan avalanche
The Pakistani military digs through snow, boulders and slush in an increasingly desperate search for 135
people buried in an avalanche, as hopes faded of...
CANADA.COM
Lee Simpson "'When the English bomb, the Germans duck.

When the Germans bomb, the English duck
When America bombs EVERYONE ducks"...See More
8 April 2012 at 19:57 Like 2
Asad Raheel Sometimes however, in view of the goons sitting in its Parliament & govt incl
Zardari...I do feel that Pakistan qualifies to be given a jolt...that the MSR is the lifeline of
forward troops ie in this case NATO's 2,00,000...u do not sit on ur butts dec...See More
Yvonne Leadpencil Senthil Ind, you misunderstand. The saying comes from the way
American's sometimes bomb their own Allies and troops by mistake. It happened a lot in the
Second World War..from where the saying originated.
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../pakistan-us-ties-jui-f-adamant.../

Pakistan-US ties: JUI-F adamant on not reopening Nato supplies
PCNS members deplore announcement of $10 million bounty on Hafiz Saeed.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Asad Raheel Lee Simpson : The US was informed that it was hitting Pak posts within half an
hour of its occurrence. They continued unabated fr another one & half hour. The inquiry
conducted by the US has affixed no blame on any of its men. Therefore, it appears that the
attack was deliberate. However, it was unwise on the part of Pakistan to have not sent their
Rep to the inquiry, when invited to do so, by the US.
9 April 2012 at 11:35 Like 1
Asad Raheel O O Nave Bird...what I know, is that its parent org was LeT...which was
banned. My view is that all Rt wing orgs like these shud be banned & all extremists incl
Mullahs shud be put in their proper places.
It is contemplated here in Pak that JuD also...See More
Asad Raheel That is the basis on which the org was formed & exists, however, I do know
that it has an Anti-India stance because its chief Hafiz Saeed supports the Liberation of
Kashmir.

Taliban attacks rocks Kabul; Afghan interior ministry holds Haqqani network
responsible for attacks
KABUL, (SANA): A series of explosions followed by sustained gunfire shook...
SANANEWS.NET

Taliban attack Pakistan prison, free 380 prisoners
By ISHTIAQ MAHSUD, Associated Press 1 hour ago if (gbar.lPWF) { gbar.lPWF(function()
{ gapi.plusone.render('plusone-div', { "size" : "small",...
GOOGLE.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12024253

Afghanistan profile - Timeline
A chronology of key events in the history of Afghanistan, from the mid-1800s to the present day.
BBC.CO.UK

Asad Raheel Leo Safavid
Humanist, Thinker, Scientist, Educationist, Reformist, Rationalist, and belonging to an almost
near-extinct specimen of human specie in Pakistan, Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy has this to say
about the tragic situation in the 'Land of the Pure'....See More
Run for your life
In Pakistan ones religious faith, or lack of one, has become sufficient to warrant execution and murder.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Asad Raheel http://www.indianexpress.com/.../british-peer.../937592/0

British peer suspended for 10m bounty on Obama - Indian Express
British peer suspended for 10m bounty on Obama - A Pakistani-origin...
INDIANEXPRESS.COM
Asad Raheel The labour party of UK has taken a hasty decision because Lord Nazir has been
wrongly quoted as above. What Lord Nazir actually had said was that if the US can announce
head money on Hafiz Saeed (the person suspected but without evidence of involvement in the
Bombay blasts) then he cud also equivalent amount of money to arrange for trial of George
W Bush & Tony Blair, at the ICJ.
Asad Raheel http://arabnews.com/world/article614521.ece

US corpse abuse pictures fuel anger, NATO exit - Arab News
ARABNEWS.COM|BY ESCENIC AS
Asad Raheel http://www.reuters.com/.../us-nato-russia...

NATO head calls on China, Russia to help fund Afghan forces
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The head of NATO called on China and Russia on...
REUTERS.COM
Johnny Barrani Signs of despair and looming defeat

20 April 2012 at 04:06 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil They should help fund Afghan Security it since it benefits them both.
Was reading yesterday how Russia is worried about the NATO and American pull out.
20 April 2012 at 04:32 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.nation.com.pk/.../generals-can-make-pml-n-but...
Generals can make PML-N, but cant bring tsunami: Imran

LAHORE A general can make PML-N or form political alliance like Islami Jamhoori Ithehad (IJI) but he
cant bring tsunami, says PTI Chief Imran...
NATION.COM.PK
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I would like to see huge tsunami of people supporting Imran Khan, as he is respectable
personality and dependable
23 April 2012 at 15:15 Like 1
though Musharaff would be ideal choice, it seems he cannot enter into Pakistan now
23 April 2012 at 15:18 Like 1
Brian Cuffari With relatively regular incidences of terrorism being committed by U.S.
forces in Afghanistan (not an exaggeration), one would be prudent to ask oneself how,
exactly, we can "win hearts and minds," which is the underlying tactic designed to build the
l...See More
US condemns soldiers' actions in Afghanistan
Probe ordered into behaviour depicted by images showing troops posing with mangled bodies of suspected
suicide bombers.
ALJAZEERA.COM
23 April 2012 at 21:41 Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, ordered an
inquiry to determine how this material got into the course and what we need to do to move
forward, said Pentagon spokesman Captain John Kirby.
The course, Perspectives on...See More
Pentagon probing anti-Islamic training material
The Pentagon announced it was investigating how a claim that the US was at war with Islam had been used
in training course materials for mid-ranking...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel (AGI) Islamabad - Pakistan's Supreme Court found the prime minister Yousuf
Raza Gilani guilt of contempt of court. In 2009, he refused to obey an ordinance forcing him
to contact the Suisse authorities in order to demand the reopening of the legal procedures
against the president, Asif Ali Zardari.
http://www.agi.it/.../201204260755-pol-ren1004-pakistani...
AGI.it - Pakistani premier sentenced for contempt, no jail.
(AGI) Islamabad - Pakistan's Supreme Court found the prime minister Yousuf Raza Gilani guilt of contempt of
court. In 2009, he refused to obey an ordi...
AGI.IT|BY AGI - AGENZIA GIORNALISTICA ITALIA

Kishor Shah All arms of Pakistan have more important jobs to attend than to get trapped in
petty issues. Time to rise and realize.
26 April 2012 at 11:56 Like 2
Asad Raheel http://cjiftikharmuhammadchaudhry.blogspot.com/.../timeli...

Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry: Timeline: From NRO to Memogate
that led to the PM's convi
CJIFTIKHARMUHAMMADCHAUDHRY.BLOGSPOT.COM|BY SARAH PERACHA
Sabina Shahid The opposition,media and Judiciary are making sure the government
fails..again playing the games without much foresight.
26 April 2012 at 15:38 Like 1
Asad Raheel ...& who else but a "Jiyalee" wud think, so...LOL!! Sabina Shahid
Asad Raheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTG9-G87luY

PM Gillani stands convicted....What's next? (Sochta Pakistan, 26 April 2012)
Moeed Pirzada discusses with Babar Sattar (Advocate), Rauf Klasra...
YOUTUBE.COM
26 April 2012 at 20:46 Unlike 1 Remove Preview
saw news channel report that he was convicted for 30 seconds? Hope Indian courts
don't learn this new trick and convict in seconds and minutes instead of months and years lol
Bruce Rosenberg It looks like everything is falling apart. What is going to happen in
Pakistan when the Taliban take over again in Afghanistan? I don't know what I would do if I
lived in Pakistan. Perhaps I just don't know enough, but it seems that it just gets worse and
worse.
26 April 2012 at 22:40 Like 1
Asad Raheel I do not view it as, sad Senthil Ind coz this bloke is an extremely corrupt guy.
More over he was awarded the sentence (albeit out of necessity to disqualify him from being
a member of the National Assembly)...coz he was protecting the Godfather of cor...See More
Asad Raheel Yes Bruce Rosenberg...things are in a nose dive. I'm a democrat but have come
to the conclusion that Pakistan needs a Che Guavera!!

Bruce Rosenberg the manner in which Afghan forces repelled recent Taliban attacks is
encouraging and I don't think it would be cake walk for Taliban to enter Afghanistan and
resume their rule once US-led forces withdraw
Asad Raheel To the contrary, Senthil Ind I wud be apprehensive...of the otherwise!!
Asad Raheel The buck has not stopped here...there still is a lengthy process to the PM's
notified disqualification...which begins with a 30 day period for filing an appeal against the
decision.
Asad Raheel http://www.paksoldiers.com/.../nato-cargo-plane-forced.../

NATO Cargo Plane Forced-Landing in Karachi by Pakistan Air Force |
PakSoldiers
A Russian-made cargo plane carrying NATO supplies was force-landed in...
PAKSOLDIERS.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.pakwatan.com/pakistan-news.php?id=4575

Memo case: Haqqani refuses to return Pakistan
Memo case: Haqqani refuses to return Pakistan
PAKWATAN.COM
Sabina Shahid Asad sayeen..'wo baat sare fasane mein jis ka ziker na tha..wo baat un ko
bahot na gwar guzri he' ...what else is expected from a judiciary that is so politicized..i for
one couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity of it all when read about the verdict...try bringing
in PMLN,would the judiciary dare!! the last time they did,the gangs of this party attacked the
SC.
Kishor Shah The positive part of the whole affair is that PM Gilani honored the justice
dispensation. Thank god he did not challenge the justice dept otherwise Pakistan would have
added problem.
2 hours ago Like
Ajit Nair now with Imran Khan desperate to get to power to captain pakistan again problems
in Pakistan dont seem to end

Asad Raheel " The positive part of the whole affair is that PM Gilani honored the justice
dispensation. Thank god he did not challenge the justice dept otherwise Pakistan would have
added problem".
The buck has not stopped. The PM has 30 days to file an appeal fr...See More
Asad Raheel I have maintained that Pakistan suffers from generalised institutional failure. Of
course, one cause of this is that individual institutions are not doing their job, however an
additional cause of this is that these institutions operate in dissonance w...See More
Simon McWaters I think that one of the problems that is posed by a politicised judiciary
(and they are not at all rare; I would say they become an inevitability, rather than an
exception, in a nation where 'rule of law' means anything) comes from the fact of
judicial...See More
Asad Raheel The PM was convicted fr contempt of court upon his failure to comply with
court orders to write a letter to the Swiss authorities to re-open the case against the President
of Pak (Zardari) fr money laundering. The case was held in abeyance at the reque...See More
27 April 2012 at 18:16 Like 1
Asad Raheel Sabina Shahid, Kishor Shah, Senthil Ind. Opus Invincible, Sandra Van Hoecke
Kishor Shah Corruption in politics is not an isolated case of Pakistan. It has almost covered
all democratic govts world over. The basic problem is in the democratic model.
We expected that under present democratic model of governance only wise and honest will
r...See More
27 April 2012 at 20:43 Like 2
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average
voter" - Winston Churchill
27 April 2012 at 21:47 Like 2
Ezaz Ahmed Oryo The whole situation in Pakistan makes an impression that its running out
of option. I really wonder what dream a young Pakistani cherishes in his mind for his
country! If media also fails in Pakistan, I really doubt if there will be any hope left.
28 April 2012 at 00:35 Like 1
Asad Raheel Though not a consolation...but still along way to go...before Somalia...LOL!!
Kishor Shah Senthil Ind : I am for democracy but a change in model is necessary, as I think.
Asad Raheel TEXT of the Supreme Court's short order in the contempt of court case against
Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilan i:
1. For the reasons to be recorded later, the accused Syed YousufRazaGilani, Prime Minister
of Pakistan/Chief Executive of thefederation, ...See More
Kishorji: I agree with you, I am all for democracy too but in my opinion, sometimes
when any country's body-politik becomes paralyzed to hopeless extent - only remedy lies in
shock treatment and that is dictatorship. Its not always preferable but somet...See More
Sabina Shahid Asad, no it does not. there are many who have been and continue to be in
contemp of court but justice is quick only when it is PPP..pak history: everytime the victim is
ruling party (never is any other than PPP) they gain more sympathy votes..already w...See
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Asad Raheel http://iaoj.wordpress.com/.../bbc-documentary-on-nawaz.../

BBC documentary on Nawaz Sharifs corruption & money laundering
New link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOM3xEHPS4Y ------ Following...
IAOJ.WORDPRESS.COM
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../malik-alleges-nawaz-sharif-involved.../

Malik alleges Nawaz Sharif involved in money laundering
Interior Minister Rehman Malik said a commission may be formed to investigate alleged involvement of
Nawaz Sharif in money laundering.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel The Second International Award to the Chief Justice of Pakistan
http://tribune.com.pk/.../chief-justice-to-receive.../
Chief justice to receive International Jurists Award 2012
Ceremony scheduled for May 28 in London, award to be presented by Rt Lord Phillips, President of UK
Supreme Court.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
I do not like this guy, he spoiled Pakistan's stability by confronting Gen Musharaff
29 April 2012 at 13:55 Like 1
His justice position and his deeds can have very limited impact and he cannot serve
Pakistan as much as Musharaff could continued to have, he is a spoiler from the bigger
picture
29 April 2012 at 13:57 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.channel4.com/.../killers-of-beheaded-briton-in...

Killers of beheaded Briton in Pakistan 'to release video'
The killers of British Red Cross worker Khalil Dale threatened to release a video of his execution because
their demands for a ransom were not met, it has...
CHANNEL4.COM
Bill Miessner Sounds quite depraved.

terrorism feeds on media coverage, that their motivation. unfortunately media channels
cannot show restraint in unison and terrorists makes use of it
30 April 2012 at 22:49 Like 1
Simon McWaters a. What are/ were the OBJECTIVES

I think with any big policy, the action taken and the manner in which it is implemented is the
result of a compromise between the various factions in the decision-making structure....See
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wow brilliant Simon McWaters

30 April 2012 at 23:19 Like 2
Asad Raheel In a landmark speech on counter-terrorism ethics, Obama aide John Brennan
insisted the program, the source of sharp tensions between Washington and Islamabad, was
legal, ethical, proportional and saved US lives.
http://dawn.com/.../obama-aide-drone-strikes-are-legal.../
Obama aide: drone strikes are legal, ethical
Brennan giving the most detailed justification and description of the drone program insisted the program was
legal, ethical, proportional and saved US...
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
1 May 2012 at 03:57 Like Remove Preview

Brian Cuffari Are drone strikes acts of war? If so, are strikes conducted on the soil of
countries against which the U.S. Congress has specifically declared war? The Constitution is
pretty clear that Congress is to formally declare war for war to be constitutional...See More
1 May 2012 at 04:18 Like 3
Bill Miessner Bottom line - America is going to do what it needs to do to protect itself.
1 May 2012 at 05:39 Like
Simon McWaters "Obama aide John Brennan insisted the program [...] was legal, ethical,
proportional and saved US lives."
"An extrajudicial killing is the killing of a person by governmental authorities without the
sanction of any judicial proceeding or legal process...See More
1 May 2012 at 08:56 Like
Brian Cuffari Are we talking about international law or domestic law?

1 May 2012 at 08:58 Like
Simon McWaters It applies in both; any killing without due process counts. A state of war is
an obvious exception, but so far as I am aware, the US has not declared war on Pakistan.
The retort that Pakistan has authorised this is pure sophistry, of the kind that serves only to
demonstrate once again that the very concept of national sovereignty is a bad joke.
1 May 2012 at 09:01 Like
Brian Cuffari I'm not saying I agree that the strikes are domestically legal, but the legal
standing is a lot more complex than them simply being cut-and-dry illegal. I can explain with
more depth a little later.
As for Pakistan authorizing them, I have seen Wikil...See More
1 May 2012 at 09:04 Like 1
Simon McWaters Brian, agreed on both points; I am 'pre-empting' possible retorts,

obviously you have not actually taken the positions I am countering pre-emptively.
The legal standing is not a 'cut-and-dried' issue in legal process precisely because successive
gover...See More
1 May 2012 at 09:12 Like 2
Brian Cuffari Totally agree on that. I wasn't aware that you were thinking in ethical terms.
I'm on-board.
1 May 2012 at 09:28 Like 1

Sandra Vh "the US has not declared war on Pakistan." This is just a side note, but I think the
US never declared war on Iraq and Afghanistan either. I think the last time the US declared
war was in WWII? Is that right Brian Cuffari? Maybe declaring war before you bomb people
to pieces is out of fashion.
1 May 2012 at 09:32 Like 2
Brian Cuffari It's a little complex, Sandra. The Bush Administration received technically
adequate legality to use military force against countries harboring the organizations or
persons responsible for 9/11. This was used to invade Afghanistan, and given the inte...See
More
1 May 2012 at 09:40 Like 2
Brian Cuffari As far as the legality of the Iraq invasion, it can be argued that the resolution
was based upon intelligence that was proved mistaken and/or fabricated. This can certainly
delegitimize the law. The Supreme Court *could* technically rule it unconstit...See More
1 May 2012 at 09:43 Like 2
Brian Cuffari Once Congress authorizes the mission, the President is in charge until there is
a surrender, ceasefire, or a cessation of funding from Congress (as far as I know.) Neither of
the three are likely in this case, hence the arbitrariness. There is no country to surrender and
Congress doesn't have the backbone or will to cease funding.
1 May 2012 at 09:47 Like 3
Asad Raheel http://edition.cnn.com/.../01/politics/afghanistan-obama/...

Obama lands in Afghanistan in surprise visit - CNN.com
President Barack Obama made a surprise visit to Afghanistan on Tuesday, the first anniversary of the U.S.
raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.
CNN.COM|BY BY THE CNN WIRE STAFF
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Brian Cuffari Close to eleven years after the initial invasion, and the capital is barely secure.
In my view, this signals overall failure. That is not meant to insult the people who have
sacrificed to serve.
http://www.aljazeera.com/.../2012/05/201252280371778.html
Large blast heard in Kabul
A suicide car bomb attack was launched in the Afghan capital, the city's police chief says.
ALJAZEERA.COM
Asad Raheel One of our Admins is braving it out...in the wilderness of Afghanistan!!
3 May 2012 at 01:38 Unlike 1

Leo Safavid I wish him safe journey.
3 May 2012 at 01:58 Like
Asad Raheel http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../02/gIQA9FFBxT_story.html

Obamas two-sided vision of peace
Ending the U.S. war and committing to Afghans for the long term.
WASHINGTONPOST.COM
http://www.wired.com/dang.../2012/05/bin-laden-documents/...
U.S. Turns Osama Against Al-Qaida With Document Dump
In an apparent attempt to sow discord within the ranks of al-Qaida's remaining sympathizers, the U.S.
government declassified personal commu...
WIRED.COM|BY SPENCER ACKERMAN
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From Kishor Shah, http://truth-out.org/.../8866-finding-bin-laden-the-truth...

News
News in Brief: Daniel Ellsberg, Col. Ann Wright Among 30 Arrested for Protesting Against Abuse of Bradley
Manning, and More ...
ARCHIVE.TRUTHOUT.ORG
Asad Raheel http://www.asiaone.com/.../Story/A1Story20120505-344019.html

US drone strike kills 10 militants in Pakistan
The militants were using the compound as a training centre. -AFP
ASIAONE.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.montrealgazette.com/.../Tal.../6570345/story.html

Taliban-backed teen suicide bomber kills 24 in Pakistan
A teenage suicide bomber targeted police in a bustling Pakistan town square on Friday, killing at least 24
people and wounding dozens in the tribal area near...
MONTREALGAZETTE.COM|BY NASRULLAH KHAN
Asad Raheel http://zeenews.india.com/.../pakistan-a-failed-state-us...

Pakistan, a failed State: US Congressman tells Gilani
US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher has told Pak PM Yousef Gilani that his country is a failed state and no
amount of US aid money will ever change that.`
ZEENEWS.INDIA.COM

Asad Raheel Well the President (Zardari) & the PM (Gilani) both of whom are court convicts
(Zardari by a Swiss Court & Gilani by the Supreme Court of Pak)...obviously do not think,
so.
5 May 2012 at 16:48 Like 1
Sabina Shahid "American aid money for Pakistan will dry up. It is clear that the Pakistani
military and intelligence services have for years diverted money intended to help the people
of Balochistan, and the other provinces of Pakistan, into funding terrorism and buying
weapons to repress their own people," Rohrabacher said.
Pakistan is in a self-destructive mode.
5 May 2012 at 23:59 Like 1
Naeem Bashir Shaikh Sabina Shahid...your comment is an extract from, the post ante,
"Pakistan, a failed State: US Congressman tells Gilani"
6 May 2012 at 03:29 Like 1
Sabina Shahid Is it against the rules?

6 May 2012 at 14:43 Like 1
Simon McWaters No, it's not against the rules to quote an article, Sabina Shahid. I'm not
sure what Naeem Bashir Shaikh is getting at with his comment.
6 May 2012 at 15:02 Like 1
Sabina Shahid thank you Simon McWaters I admit i have not read the rules because mostly
they are the same in every group..
6 May 2012 at 15:10 Like 2
Simon McWaters The important rules here are: don't abuse anyone, do respond to criticisms
of your facts and/or reasoning, don't spread hate against any group and don't block the
Admins. You seem to be doing well so far
6 May 2012 at 15:14 Like 2
Asad Raheel So far, so good!! Sabina Shahid...Allah ja'aney kya hoga agey!! (God knows
what the future wud be).
6 May 2012 at 15:25 Like 1
Asad Raheel " because mostly they are the same in every group".
Yeah, coz mostly they have been copied from this forum. These Rules were originally drafted
by the Wizard of Oz!!
6 May 2012 at 15:29 Like 2

Sabina Shahid I think abuse is a sign of weakness and insecurity..i believe every truth is not
a fact and besides it is nothing more than one side hypothesizing their truth is the correct
one..doubts can be raised just about any belief or perceived truth..i sometime...See More
6 May 2012 at 15:34 Like
Sabina Shahid Lol.."Yeah, coz mostly they have been copied from this forum"...funny i was
in another group and they said the same thing:)
6 May 2012 at 15:37 Like 1
Simon McWaters I assure you, I dreamed these rules up all by myself originally; they've
gone through a lot of updates since then, though!
6 May 2012 at 15:42 Like 2
Asad Raheel "funny i was in another group and they said the same thing:)"
At least three forums have taken approval from myself to copy these rules...presumably some
forums wud have taken such approval from other Admins of this forum & some may have
resorted to o...See More
6 May 2012 at 15:58 Like
Sabina Shahid Some of the dreams and 'fantasies' usually do get revealed when the thoughts
and ideas are expressed.
My reply was mainly to, "do respond to criticisms of your facts and/or reasoning"
thus the possibility that i may not respond.
6 May 2012 at 16:35 Like 2
Asad Raheel http://ibnlive.in.com/.../16-taliban.../255138-56.html

16 Taliban surrender in Pakistan
A total of 16 Taliban militants, including four commanders, have surrendered in Pakistan's northwest tribal
region.
IBNLIVE.IN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.dnaindia.com/.../report_militants-attack...

Militants attack security forces in Pak, 9 soldiers killed - World - DNA
CIA-operated drones routinely launch strikes in North Waziristan despite...
DNAINDIA.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.ndtv.com/.../zawahiri-is-in-pakistan-i.../231512

Zawahiri is in Pakistan, I cleared 10 million bounty for Hafiz: Hillary to NDTV
Al Qaeda's new chief Ayman al-Zawahiri is in Pakistan, US Secretary of State...
NDTV.COM
Asad Raheel 'US should provide information on Zawahiri's presence in Pakistan'

http://tribune.com.pk/.../drone-strikes-in-pakistan-khar.../
Drone strikes in Pakistan: Khar briefs PCNS
Khar will also brief the committee on developments regarding recommendations of the Parliament on Pakistan-US ties.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../militants-behead-two-soldiers.../

Militants behead two soldiers: Officials
The heads of the two soldiers were found dumped without their bodies in Makane Bagh and Zafar Town.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Sabina Shahid Zawahiri is not in Pakistan but in Abbottabad...no need to provide

information, collect him at your convenience
8 May 2012 at 07:16 Like 1
Hali Jilani Sabina Abbottabad is in Pakistan!

8 May 2012 at 07:20 Like
Sabina Shahid haha! i know, just like OBL was never in Pakistan;)
8 May 2012 at 07:23 Like 1
Hali Jilani Got it!
8 May 2012 at 07:25 Like 1
Asad Raheel Pakistan's policies & lack of thereof, are hardly worth defending. However, the
fol are facts :
a. the link to tracking down OBL was provided by ISI to the CIA (however, OBL's head had
only metaphoric & vote gaining value)...See More
8 May 2012 at 15:46 Like 2
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../twitter-alert-pity-the-nation/

Twitter alert: Pity the Nation
People of Pakistan use a twitter trend share their own woes about the state of the country.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK

Asad Raheel http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-109392-The-emergency
The emergency - Farrukh Saleem
We need a colossal $24 billion just to survive the following 24 months. Imagine; our imports are growing
twice as fast as exports and the current account over...
THENEWS.COM.PK
Asad Raheel When has Pakistan not been in an emergency?...Has that always not been the
case with Pakistan, apart from its golden period of the sixties (when it was ahead of India in
economic indicators)? Due to wrong priorities has Pakistan not always suffered fro...See More
20 May 2012 at 15:21 Like 1
Asad Raheel " Asad Raheel, isn't it remarkable that Pakistan has a strong independent
judiciary?"
The grass tends to be greener, when viewed from the other side. The judiciary is relatively
independent...in a sense, now far too independent...which allows it to al...See More
20 May 2012 at 17:04 Like 3
Asad Raheel IK has proven his mettle as a gud administrator. That is a major requirement of
a leader...over & above him being a genius. He also has integrity in relative terms...but the
task is too uphill fr a party who does not win the elections by 2/3rd majority...See More
20 May 2012 at 17:24 Like
Asad Raheel "The one thing that impresses me about Imran is the work he did to build that
hospital. The endless minutiae of petty obstacles and downright disasters that he overcame.
To go from being a cricketer playboy to having a purpose for public service which ...See More
20 May 2012 at 17:38 Like
Asad Raheel IK claims proximity to the Tribals on the basis of his Mianwali connection.
There is no such proximity.
Like many others not in the govt, he plays to the gallery with abject anti-US propaganda &
has put forth a bulwark against drone attacks on the bas...See More
20 May 2012 at 18:00 Like
Asad Raheel "And, your view is his family connection is really exaggerated?"
The family connection is total Bullocks. IK's family hails to Jullundur (India). Was endowed
huge land allotments at the time of Pakistan's creation, facilitated by senior members of
the...See More
Drone attacks in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The United States government has made a series of attacks on targets in northwest Pakistan since 2004
using drones (unmanned aerial vehicles)...
EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG
Asad Raheel " I consider myself British first and foremost".

By all means do so-with ice and a slice...& everything nice, Asmaa Pirzada. However maybe
there are people in Pak (possibly myself one of them) who cud have been nationality wise
British/US...but who had forsaken the same, to live & die, with the rise & fall...of
Pakistan!!...See More
20 May 2012 at 19:03 Unlike 2
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/2012/05/23/intellectuals-in-pakistan/

Intellectuals in Pakistan
THIS refers to the letter The new intellectuals by Shahzeb Khan (April 17). I would like some points to be
clarified on historical and rational grounds.
DAWN.COM|BY FROM THE NEWSPAPER
Kishor Shah There should be room for intelligence to proliferate. This is missing in
Pakistan.
23 May 2012 at 20:13 Like
Asad Raheel "I sense that the urban centres are like a foreign nation compared to the rural
areas".
Very apt Asmaa Pirzada...& then there are micro-urban centres in Pak...where one may even
forget about let us say...Europe!!
23 May 2012 at 21:19 Like 2
Asad Raheel ISLAMABAD - Russia and Pakistan Thursday agreed to work closely on peace
and stability in Afghanistan, a move that comes after the US decision to keep some of its
troops beyond 2014 which has ostensibly prompted Russia and China to deepen their
cooperation with regional countries.
http://www.nation.com.pk/.../pakistan-russia-to-get-cosy...
Pakistan, Russia to get cosy over Afghan issue
ISLAMABAD - Russia and Pakistan Thursday agreed to work closely on peace and stability in Afghanistan, a
move that comes after the US decision to keep...
NATION.COM.PK
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Asad Raheel Posted by Lola Sovina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReAU6oTr0OY
USA Activist Medea Shouts & Struggle against Drone Attack killings in Pakistan,
Yemen, Must Watch.!!
I solute to this USA Journalist, Lady Activist Code Pink Medea Benjamin who...
YOUTUBE.COM
1 June 2012 at 14:22 Like 2 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel Bill Bill Miessner dispute Resolution is an art, wherein ego shud be placed on
one side. Both the US & Pak are not doing that. That its election year fr both countries, has
further not helped the situation.
The politicians of Pak have always been a u...See More
1 June 2012 at 14:25 Like 2
Asad Raheel COMMENT by Hali Jilani

Considering where I am at the moment, I have been "trying" to teach counter-insurgency for
years... Our young soldiers and Marines get what a lot of others don't... We have not really
made a concerted effort to understand what w...See More
1 June 2012 at 14:30 Like 5
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../shakil-afridi-appeals-conviction.../

Shakil Afridi appeals conviction: charity
We have filed an appeal against his conviction and have challenged his sentence and the charges levelled
against him, said Idress Kamal.
DAWN.COM
2 June 2012 at 00:14 Like Remove Preview
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../helicopter-shelling-kills-eight.../

Helicopter shelling kills eight militants in Orakzai
At least eight militants were killed and three were injured in a military operation on Friday during helicopter
shelling by the security forces in Orakzai agency,
BY DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../suicide-attack-kills-seven-afghans.../

Suicide attack kills seven Afghans at Natobase: official
The attacker drove his truck full of explosives into the first security check post of the Nato base.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel BRAVO!!

http://www.indianexpress.com/.../nato-forces.../957131/0
NATO forces rescue four aid workers in north Afghanistan - Indian Express
NATO forces rescue four aid workers in north Afghanistan - It was a risky but...
INDIANEXPRESS.COM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUFl39lgVZo
A LOOK INSIDE TALIBAN RUN MADRASA TRAINING NEXT GENERATION
OF TERRORISTS(AFGHANISTAN)
COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER UNDER SECTION 107 OF COPYRIGHT ACT...
YOUTUBE.COM
Asad Raheel http://abcnews.go.com/.../pakistan-us-drone-kills-10...

Pakistan: US Drone Kills 10 Suspected Militants
US drone strike in Pakistan kills 10 suspected militants, Pakistani officials say
ABCNEWS.GO.COM|BY ABC NEWS
Ajit Nair one side nato rescues 4 workers

on the other hand their drones kill 10...See More
3 June 2012 at 18:42 Like 2
Kishor Shah http://truth-out.org/.../9320-dont-thank-me-for-my-service

Don't Thank Me for My Service
Don't Thank Me for My Service
TRUTH-OUT.ORG|BY ALISSA
Simon McWaters That's a powerful article you posted, Kishor Shah - I'll be interested to see
whatHali Jilani makes of it.
4 June 2012 at 14:40 Like
Yvonne Leadpencil Ajit Nair, there is nothing wrong in killing militants, it's what soldiers do
and those drones are very effective at getting the enemy. More civilians would be hurt with
any other kind bombing also the fact that militants kill many more civilians than any NATO
weapon seems to go right over some peoples heads.
4 June 2012 at 14:41 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil As for your article Kishor Shah, if the writer didn't want to go to
Vietnam he could have run to Canada with all the other pretend soldiers. There are no
conscripts in Afghanistan or Iraq as far as I know, why soldiers have to come back whinging
and whining about war when they joined the Army of their own free will..what did they
expect? Tea and scones?
Simon McWaters Lee Simpson, the problem with the arguments you make in favour of the
drones is that there are several factors you also ignore:
Firstly the violation of a sovereign nations airspace; I can't imagine that if China or some
other nation decided to eradic...See More
4 June 2012 at 14:57 Unlike 4
Simon McWaters "why soldiers have to come back whinging and whining about war when
they joined the Army of their own free will"
Because they were duped by propaganda that claimed the war was justified as a means to an
end... just like you.
Yvonne Leadpencil Simon McWaters.

(Firstly the violation of a sovereign nations airspace)..Wrong.
We all know that Pakistan has given the go ahead for the drones on the quiet....See More
Yvonne Leadpencil *Your.

Yvonne Leadpencil (Because they were duped by propaganda that claimed the war was
justified as a means to an end... just like you.)
Silly statement Simon. They join the Army to train for war,they join the Army out of
patriotism and duty, not because of ideological reasons, and if they did they are not soldiers.
Simon McWaters "you are an enabler"

How do you judge an action, Lee? Is it by what the person says was their intent, or by the
consequences of their actions? What are the consequences of the drone campaign? Is it
making people happy with the US? Is it reducing the a...See More
Yvonne Leadpencil I didn't miss it. Hali Jilani do you agree with Simon yet you serve the
USA Forces?
Kishor Shah I would not deny that there is a small positive use of violence but largely
violence is grossly used for greed, ego, self service etc.
5 June 2012 at 09:02 Like 3
Ajit Nair i am not against drone attacks that maybe killing militants but facts state that a lot
of innocent civilians & children are too being murdered
moreover these drone attacks are being done without the permission of the Federal Govt of
Pakistan which means it is a act of agression on the teritorry & integrity of Pakistan & has to
be treated as a terrorist act
5 June 2012 at 10:25 Like 4
Yvonne Leadpencil Pakistan's government publicly condemns these attacks, but has secretly
shared intelligence with the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan
Drone attacks in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The United States government has made a series of attacks on targets in northwest Pakistan since 2004
using drones (unmanned aerial vehicles)...
EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG
Kishor Shah Collateral damages seems larger than targetted damages. Drone seems counter
productive for humanity in these missions.
Hali Jilani I think Lee you should know that I will not be answering a question like that on a
public forum? I would be grateful if my esteemed friends on this forum would use some
discretion when talking about what I do and what I can and cannot address!!! Thank you....
5 June 2012 at 23:46 Like 4
Yvonne Leadpencil http://www.nytimes.com/.../qaeda-deputy-killed-in-drone...

A Senior Pakistani Official said: Practically speaking, the drone strikes are a big success.
But strategically they are a huge loss. They creates more polarization, more enemies, and are
an ...See More
Qaeda Deputy Was Killed in Drone Strike, Official Says
Abu Yahya al-Libi, the Qaeda deputy leader who escaped American custody in 2005, was killed in Mondays
drone strike in Pakistans tribal belt, according to...
NYTIMES.COM|BY DECLAN WALSH;ERIC SCHMITT
Yvonne Leadpencil I am sorry Hali, I just get tired of America bashing. No country is perfect
but it seems America is expected to be. If all was weighed up, the good done against the bad,
I am sure America good would come out on top.
6 June 2012 at 03:40 Like 2
Simon McWaters Apologies, Hali, I honestly did not consider that aspect but I'll try to keep
it in mind in future.
Lee, I think it's important to distinguish between the American people (who in my experience
are as good as any people) and the US government; if *all*...See More
6 June 2012 at 06:10 Like 6
Brian Cuffari There are also instances in which good or bad acts are so overwhelmingly
supported by the American public that policymakers have no choice but to obey. In this sense,
sometimes, and I stress sometimes, genuinely motivated actions sneak through into our
foreign policy.
6 June 2012 at 06:16 Like 1
Hali Jilani Hey Sweetie, not to worry! I'm considered very outspoken and most people in the
Military know that I don't mince my words on a lot... However this is an open forum and I've
been quite candid on occasion... I just have to watch it now and then :0)
I do...See More
6 June 2012 at 06:18 Like 5
Kishor Shah USA lead the world in post warII era with free enterpreneurship and hard work.
These were the great contribution of USA which enabled mankind to attend the problem of
productions.
Oligarchic autocratism of pigmy politicians have damaged its esteem in this century.
6 June 2012 at 08:32 Like 3
Ajit Nair talks are going on here as if America is the only best country in this world ???
50% good & 50% bad doesnt make any country good
6 June 2012 at 17:21 Like 1
Linda Zachri What are the other best countries in the world, Ajit?
Ajit Nair on what basis did u declare usa as the best??

Linda Zachri I didn't declare the USA as the best, myself, but I was interested in your
statement about it being the "only best country in this world" - thus implying there are other
"best countries".
Asad Raheel Simon McWaters has very aptly described the legal aspects of drone attacks,
which is also is the stance of the Pak govt & even more so the stance of the opposition in the
Pak parliament & also that of the majority of the people of Pak. However, my opin...See More
6 June 2012 at 23:58 Like 1
Asad Raheel Conclusion : the govt of Pak, shud be bold & fair enuf to announce limited
approval of drone strikes ie with its consultation, in the region of FATA.
7 June 2012 at 14:20 Like 1
Asad Raheel Simon McWaters, Lee Simpson, Hali Jilani, Senthil Ind, Linda Zachri, Kishor
Shah, Ajit Nair
Alice Ina Code We should ask Saudi Arabia .. considering they are behind it!! but i would
imagine it's a land grab!!
7 June 2012 at 14:26 Like 1
Alice Ina Code http://www.insurancejournal.com/.../2011/09/20/216580.htm .. Lloyds of

London have the best insurance investigators in the world .. and Gaddafi said the same too!!..
before he died in his last speach to the people he said .. " Saudi payed for Obama Cam...See
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7 June 2012 at 14:31 Like 1
Kishor Shah Asad Raheel : I am not with your conclusion. Pakistan as a nation has
obligations to protect its own citizens.
Pakistan Taliban are a challenge to governance of Pakistan and not to the nation.
In such situation even limited permission is alienating the governance with citizens, as I see.
Asad Raheel Kishor Shah Pakistan's & US relations have reached dangerous proportions.
The drone strikes is just one issue of discord. It is here where I suggest that Pak shud back off
& put national ego aside, fr the reasons outlined above from which it can be als...See More
7 June 2012 at 16:23 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil ( Pakistan as a nation has obligations to protect its own citizens.) YES!
and that is what they are trying to do by going after those militants.

Kishor Shah Lee Simpson : I agree that Pakistan has right to go after their citizens as they
are militants but they have no right to allow foreigners to kill their citizen even if militancy is
noticed.
I see some difference between challenge to a nation and challenge to govt.
7 June 2012 at 17:29 Like 1
Kishor Shah Asad Raheel : Pakistan should make all out efforts, including pursuing the
power stations within Pakistan, to attend militancy in and out of Pakistan.
Basically Pakistan is not making due efforts to contain militancy and thereby inviting
foreigners to...See More
7 June 2012 at 17:38 Like 1
Kishor Shah Pakistan is well placed to build political consensus with all political parties but
it ill placed to build consensus with people. People stand alienated unnecessary. Authoritarian
governance gives rise to alienation with people and at times people beco...See More
7 June 2012 at 19:51 Like 1
Kishor Shah Religious feelings are a fact of the case in Pakistan. Expecting it to become
secular soon is a wishful thinking only. Pakistan has to rebuild the nation keeping in mind the
current state of situation.
We have discussed, on some other thread, that the...See More
7 June 2012 at 20:06 Like 1
Asad Raheel Whereas secularism died in Pakistan's first chapter, due to the early death of its
founder Jinnah, religiosity gained ground in the civil side.
Maulana Mauoodi, originally ie pre-independence, of Jama'at-e-Islami Hind, which had
opposed the creation o...See More
7 June 2012 at 21:29 Like 2
Bill Miessner The U.S. has the right to self defense. If Pakistan is either unwilling or
incapable of capturing and destroying these terrorists, then the U.S. will.
7 June 2012 at 21:38 Like 2
Kishor Shah Correct situation of Pakistan is best known to people there and they can decide
the best compromise.
I am at a distance and my views are of general nature and may not be valid in the difficult
situation Pakistan is facing. Asad Raheel thanks.
7 June 2012 at 23:08 Like 1
Asad Raheel I appreciate & value ur comments Mr Kishor Shah.

Asad Raheel Panetta, in New Delhi, had said that the US was fighting a war in the federally
administered tribal areas (FATA) of Pakistan.
"I think it's part of the theatre of war. It's a place where the enemy seeks sanctuary," Senator
Graham Lindsey told The Hill, the newspaper of the Capitol Hill....See More
US lawmakers laud Panetta`s remarks on Pakistan
US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta had said that the US was fighting a war in the federally administered
tribal areas of Pakistan.
ZEENEWS.INDIA.COM
Simon McWaters Of course the US has a right to self-defense... but are you really
maintaining that these guys are a credible threat to the US? It looks a lot to me like they are a
credible threat to the US's interests in the ME, but not the US itself - and imposing y...See
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8 June 2012 at 09:45 Like 4
Robert Skees Simon McWaters...except that these drone attacks are ordered by none other
than President Barack Husessin Obama...why would you think President Obama would go
along with it, this president who isn't another George W. Bush?
Simon McWaters How is this President not another George Bush? OK, he's not as obviously
mentally retarded as GW, but he is still the representative of US interests, answerable to his
employers - the people who paid for him to become President.
8 June 2012 at 10:17 Like 1
Asad Raheel Robert Skees, there were certain commitments made by Obama, during his
election campaign but he did not deliver upon them eg the closure of Guantanamo Bay
prison. Wud u plz comment upon that. Thanx.
8 June 2012 at 10:22 Like 2
Yvonne Leadpencil May I comment on this Asad Raheel?

Asad Raheel Lee Simpson...I think you shud be knowing that I welcome & value ur
comments in any context!!
8 June 2012 at 11:12 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil Thank you Asad. I believe that incoming Presidents are not privy to the
most secret of goings on in a Government so it is not unusual for a complete turn around on
policies in different areas. It happened to us when the out going National Government ...See
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8 June 2012 at 11:24 Like 1
Simon McWaters Re: drone attacks, does Obama know whether the accused would plead
guilty or innocent to the charges levelled against them? Does he know what explanations they
might be able to offer that prove their innocence? Does he know how they might be able to
show that the evidence against them has been gathered improperly?
He doesn't know these things, and therefore cannot be in a legitimate position to order
executions.
8 June 2012 at 11:29 Like 2
Asad Raheel This is exactly what I wanted to point out Lee Simpson...the power of the
Establishment & System (which also incl the military-corporatocracy complex, restrains even
the US president.
Yvonne Leadpencil Simon McWaters, the people targeted would have been watched for a
long time, their guilt would be assured. This is a war, they are combatants not local boys who
have gone off the right track and need a friendly Magistrate to set them right again.
8 June 2012 at 11:37 Like 1
Asad Raheel "therefore cannot be in a legitimate position to order executions".

Agreed Simon McWaters, drone strikes cannot be termed legit by any yardstick...but also (in
diametric opposition to the views of majority Pakistanis), my view is that considering all
factors (which I have outlined ante), expediency justifies them.
8 June 2012 at 11:40 Like 1
Simon McWaters "the people targeted would have been watched for a long time, their guilt
would be assured"
Of course, it is safe to assume they are guilty on the basis of the evidence of the State, and
give them no chance to defend themselves....See More
8 June 2012 at 11:44 Like 2
Kishor Shah I sometime feel that drone program is faulty decision.

The collateral damages alienates people from governance of Pakistan and pushes them
towards militants. In this situation Pakistan is not well placed to contain militancy. They
stand alienated by ...See More

Yvonne Leadpencil There will always be wars and new ways to gain advantage, there will
always be a dominant country who calls the tunes, today that happens to be America.At the
moment, I am glad for that.
8 June 2012 at 11:51 Like 1
Asad Raheel "collateral damages gives rise to new crop of militants and the collateral
damage is higher than targetted damages"
This phenomena (well pointed out by you Kishor Shah) in my view applies to the Afghan
War in general. OBL has gone but many more OBLs o...See More
Yvonne Leadpencil I found this article very enlightening in understanding the mind set of
people like OBL and hid friends.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/.../questions-facing......See More
Questions Facing the Muslim World :: Gatestone Institute
Many parts of the world, such as Korea, China, and India - basically medieval kingdoms fifty or sixty years
ago -- are now among the pacesetters of the...
GATESTONEINSTITUTE.ORG
Yvonne Leadpencil .. If bygones can never be bygones, conflicts can never be resolved.
8 June 2012 at 12:08 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil This war will last a long time.

8 June 2012 at 12:08 Like 1
Kishor Shah No one is gainer from the wars. Winner is ego and loser is humanity.
8 June 2012 at 12:13 Like 2
Robert Skees Asad Raheel...regarding your query...Yes, Mr. Obama promised to close Camp
X-Ray at Gitmo, but to this date it is still in operation.
It is one thing to be a candidate and say something when you are not privy to all the
considerations and another thin...See More
8 June 2012 at 17:14 Like 2
Asad Raheel Robert Skees...I had cited gitmo as just ONE example...there happen to be
others!!
9 June 2012 at 03:59 Like 1

Robert Skees Oh, like getting the USA out of Afghanistan and Iraq pronto?
Again...it is one thing to campaign, another to govern. If Imran Khan becomes the next PM of
Pakistan, I'm sure he will find out the same thing to be true.
9 June 2012 at 06:14 Like 1
Kishor Shah http://www.thedailybeast.com/.../7-key-moments-in-daniel...

7 Key Moments in Daniel Klaidmans Kill or Capture About Obamas Drone War
Daniel Klaidman has reported extensively for Newsweek and The Daily Beast...
THEDAILYBEAST.COM
Bill Miessner The CIA has launched 8 drone attacks sine the May 20-21 NATO summit, the
latest one killing al-Qaida's No. 2 leader Abu Yahya Al-Libi. This compares with 14 drone
strikes in Pakistan's tribal belt in the previous six months. Obviously something has cha...See
More
9 June 2012 at 19:53 Like 2
Robert Skees Does Fox News know about this? ^^^^^^^

9 June 2012 at 20:00 Like 2
Asad Raheel " If Imran Khan becomes the next PM of Pakistan, I'm sure he will find out the
same thing to be true".
Agreed Robert Skees
18 June 2012 at 01:17 Like
Asad Raheel http://www.economist.com/node/21556987?frsc=dg%7Ca

Come clean
The upright Mr Chaudhry IFTIKHAR CHAUDHRY, the chief justice, is a hero in Pakistan. He heads the
Supreme Courtthe only institution in the country...
ECONOMIST.COM
Asad Raheel Post by Hali Jilani

Hali Jilani...See More
Pakistan Court Disqualifies Prime Minister From Office
ISLAMABAD -- Pakistan's prime minister has been `disqualified' from office due to an earlier contempt
conviction, the top court declared Tuesday, a ruling that...
HUFFINGTONPOST.COM|BY AP

Asad Raheel Prima faci, a very unusual event; also unprecedented in the history of Pakistan
(as far as such strict action by the Supreme Court is concerned). However, I do not think this
step wud impact the political scenario much & therefore (despite prolific loa...See More
19 June 2012 at 22:19 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.rt.com/news/un-questions-us-drones-185/

Unjustified killing: UN wants US drone attacks explained RT
A UN investigator has called on Washington to provide justification for the...
RT.COM
Asad Raheel Julian Assange interviews Imran Khan (IK).

http://tribune.com.pk/.../khan-to-assange-politicians.../
Khan to Assange: Politicians realise vote bank belongs to me now
Imran Khan speaks with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on 'The World...
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
He is the right man, honest person and good leader

19 June 2012 at 23:43 Like 1
Bhanumati Dasgupta As an avid fan of cricket and cricketers, Imran Khan was the most
dashing of the Pakistani cricketers. And if I remember correctly, what a fast bowler he was!
And to think that he is so courageous on top of it, to have an anti-corruption party in Pakistan
of all places, kudos to him. Hope he succeeds and does not get corrupted by the system...
yes Bhanumati Dasgupta, he was one of the best cricketers in those days and
unbelievable the way he lead Pakistan to worldcup victory in 1992 in foreign soil, remarkable
leader
19 June 2012 at 23:52 Like 2
Amira Khalil Imran Khan is not dashing - Musharraf is hot!

20 June 2012 at 01:24 Like 1
Amira Khalil I'll have to go through this thread later and catch up - I can't promise a
comment, I don't live in Pakistan! Off to get my daughters pictures taken!
20 June 2012 at 01:30 Like 1
Bhanumati Dasgupta "Imran Khan is not dashing - Musharraf is hot!" Right! lol! Imran was
a deadly bowler in more ways than one!
20 June 2012 at 01:51 Like 1
Amira Khalil I do not find him attractive at all! Not my type, I like Musharraf
20 June 2012 at 01:51 Like 1
Amira Khalil He certainly has not bowled me over!

20 June 2012 at 01:53 Like 1
Bhanumati Dasgupta Oh you should have seen him in his younger days!
20 June 2012 at 01:53 Like 1
Amira Khalil I have seen him in his younger days - I'm still not impressed - and Musharraf
actually gets hotter the older he gets! That man is fine!
20 June 2012 at 07:34 Like 1
Bhanumati Dasgupta i loved the reddish Punjabi complexion in the sun- when he was all
hot from playing. i'll see if I can find a pic...
20 June 2012 at 07:43 Like 1
Bhanumati Dasgupta These are still older pics of him but will do to get a flavor
http://www.google.com/imgres......See More
Google Image Result for
http://local.citizenseye.com/pakcricket/files/2011/04/imran_khan.jpg
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Yvonne Leadpencil I like what Imran Khan had to say but I think he is another idealist who
is going to end up dead.
20 June 2012 at 09:17 Like 1
Amira Khalil no no no Bhanumati Dasgupta - I saw the pic u posted Musharraf is much
hotter lol - we have completely different taste in men
20 June 2012 at 12:11 Like 1
Amira Khalil http://www.google.com/imgres?q=musharraf&hl=en&sa=X...

Google Image Result for...
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Amira Khalil http://www.google.com/imgres?q=musharraf&start=233&hl=en...
Google Image Result for...
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Amira Khalil http://www.google.com/imgres?q=musharraf&start=323&hl=en...

Google Image Result for
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/files/images/Musharraf.jpg
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Amira Khalil When I was 18 I dated this 42 year old Mexican guy in the Navy that looked
like Musharraf
20 June 2012 at 12:16 Like 3
Asad Raheel "I like what Imran Khan had to say but I think he is another idealist who is
going to end up dead".
Well observed Lee Simpson...both of IK being & idealist & the security threat to him. Three
murder attempts were made on Mush while he was the sitting ...See More
Yvonne Leadpencil Really Asad? What were they like..? Young and impressionable or older
and knowing?
No wonder you are so diplomatic, you have had a lot of practice dealing with would-be
killers....See More
20 June 2012 at 13:36 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil I remember reading somewhere how Musharaff would lay down close to
rail way tracks and stay still while the train thundered past. This was part of his training in the
Army. You need nerves of steel to do that.
20 June 2012 at 13:39 Like
Asad Raheel "Really Asad? What were they like..? Young and impressionable or older and
knowing?"
I have had the honour to interact with both Mush & his wud be assassins. Yes most of these
were young & they had very strong religious convictions. Most of them had c...See More
20 June 2012 at 14:14 Like 2
Yvonne Leadpencil Thanks Asad.

20 June 2012 at 14:15 Like
Kishor Shah Anarchy is the problem of Pakistan where individuals (or collective group)
pursue their interest more than interest of Pakistan. Situation is moving bad to worse. I think
soon judiciary will defied in Pakistan and total anarchy would prevail.
All power stations in Pakistan have to sit for a reconcilliation and work out a Pakistan centric
limits to play within....See More
20 June 2012 at 15:40 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/2012/06/20/the-great-moguls/

The great moguls
ONCE upon a time there was a rich man from Pakistan. He flitted between Europe and the United States,
sometimes in Miami, other times in Monaco.
DAWN.COM|BY RAFIA ZAKARIA
Bhanumati Dasgupta Amira we will have to agree that our tastes are just different..
20 June 2012 at 17:58 Like 1
Brian Cuffari Asad, what I found to be especially interesting is Mr. Khan's description of
everyone being armed in the tribal areas. Is this true? If so, it should be known that the
President officially considers each military-age male within a drone-strike zone to be an
enemy combatant. Some credibly argue that this deflates the numbers of civilian casualties.
What are your thoughts on this?
20 June 2012 at 21:05 Like 1
Bill Miessner It does deflate the number of civilian casualties, however, it certainly doesn't
mean that every armed young male is a target. In fact, it means the very opposite.
20 June 2012 at 21:42 Like 1
Amira Khalil http://youtu.be/yEpLaB6tEaQ

The Gun Market in Pakistan The Most Dangerous Place on Earth
http://www.myindiamyway.com for Discussions on everything on India
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Amira Khalil I have a friend that is from the Afreedi tribe and lived up here!
20 June 2012 at 23:14 Like
Brian Cuffari Bill, I wasn't even thinking about whether or not all armed males are targets. I
was thinking about how the manipulated statistics form public opinion. The media generally
cites the military statistics, which create a distorted
perception of the pro...See More
20 June 2012 at 23:24 Like 1
Bill Miessner I agree Brian regarding how statistics can be used for manipulation. Here's
another statistic that isn't widely broadcast. In Afghanistan and Pakistan over 90% of civilian
casualties are caused by the Taliban and other insurgents.
20 June 2012 at 23:39 Like 1
Brian Cuffari I've seen that statistic in just about every mainstream outlet. I am also under
the impression that ISAF does not post the statistics online, and we are therefore reliant upon
independent reports.
Who compiles the statistics? Who keeps those people safe while they do it? These are just
questions I ask myself.
20 June 2012 at 23:59 Like 2
Brian Cuffari Never mind, I found one.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=41143
Civilian casualty numbers in Afghanistan rise again, UN reports
The number of civilian casualties resulting from the conflict in Afghanistan has...
UN.ORG
Brian Cuffari Finally found the official UNAMA report:

http://photos.state.gov/.../UNAMA%20POC%202011%20Report...
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/usnato/562411/PDFs_001/UNAMA%20POC
%202011%20Report_Final_Feb%20201
PHOTOS.STATE.GOV
Asad Raheel I agree withBill Miessner, on this ie

"l it certainly doesn't mean that every armed young male is a target. In fact, it means the very
opposite".
21 June 2012 at 00:07 Like
Asad Raheel Brian Cuffari...plz read my views on drone strikes, higher up in the
thread...they are at a tangent to the commonly held views in pak, incl those of IK.
21 June 2012 at 00:09 Like

Brian Cuffari Okay, Asad. It is tough to scroll through threads right now because I am on an
iPad.
I just read the UNAMA report's methodology, and it does *not* assume that fighting-age
males are enemy combatants, just for the record.
21 June 2012 at 00:11 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../taliban-attack-kabul-lake...

Taliban attack on Kabul lakeside resort leaves at least two dozen dead
Eleven-hour gun battle to free hostages in hotel and restaurant at Qargha...
GUARDIAN.CO.UK|BY TOM PETER
Asad Raheel Hali Jilani

22 June 2012 at 18:08 Like
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../nato-commander-blames-kabul-attack.../

Nato commander blames Kabul attack on Haqqani network
The attack bore the
DAWN.COM

23 June 2012 at 02:51 Like
Asad Raheel Still, these efforts will not get any easier with the dismissal of Pakistans prime
minister earlier this week, and the general outlook remains gloomy. Theres a saying heard
often around these parts: Pakistan and the United States have a failing marri...See More
The darkest days of the US-Pakistan relationship
Given Americas domestic troubles during this election season, its simply not politically expedient for
Washington to be advocating for a long-term,...
DAWN.COM|BY MICHAEL KUGELMAN

23 June 2012 at 03:04 Like
DrIjaz Inayat General Pervaiz Musharaf is the answer to the situation. He misguided the
delegation which went to Afghanistan for talks with the Government of Mullah OMar.
23 June 2012 at 03:28 Like
Asad Raheel http://www.foreignpolicy.com/.../no_country_for_armed_men...

No Country for Armed Men - By Ahmed Rashid
LAHORE It was a sign of the misguided times in Pakistan that on June 5 -- a day when the country faced
massive rolling electricity blackouts, a crashing...
FOREIGNPOLICY.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?

fbid=488177457862295&set=at.409122819101093.116222.100000101347420.10000141796
5786&type=1&ref=nf
Sofia Khalid Mian with Hali Jilani and 2 others

Everyone knows and many have died with their secrets
Asad Raheel http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=413067222065357...

24 June 2012 at 05:47 Like
http://edition.cnn.com/.../asia/pakistan-violence/index.html
Eight Pakistani soldiers killed in cross-border attack - CNN.com
Dozens of Taliban fighters crossed over from Afghanistan and attacked three...
CNN.COM|BY BY REZA SAYAH, CNN
Asad Raheel http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../pakistan-supply-route_b...

In the United States-Pakistan Impasse the Winner Is: Russia
The Central Asian exit plan will cost the American taxpayer more than twice as...
HUFFINGTONPOST.COM|BY SARWAR KASHMERI
Asad Raheel http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../why-pakistan-is-on-the...

Why Pakistan Is on the Brink
While Pakistan on the Brink thoroughly outlines the country's domestic woes, the book convincingly
subscribes to Pakistan's official narrative of victimhood.
HUFFINGTONPOST.COM
Asad Raheel "WRITE THE LETTER TO THE SWISS GOVT"...Supreme Court.

DAILYTIMES.COM.PK
DrIjaz Inayat http://dawn.com/.../obama-fears-pakistans-disintegration.../

Obama fears Pakistans disintegration: book
WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama told his staff in late 2011 that Pakistan could disintegrate and
set off a scramble for its weapons, claims a...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel APPROVAL RATINGS in Pak.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../artic.../14444475.cms
Zardari has abysmally low approval rating in Pakistan: Survey - The Times of
India
Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari's popularity has dipped to an abysmally low,...
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../hamza-confession-confirms-state.../

Hamza confession confirms state support for Mumbai attacks: Chidambaram
When I say state actors, at the moment, I am not pointing my finger at any...
DAWN.COM

DrIjaz Inayat It is an open secret now. But the most concerning thing is that the terrorist
have become so bold now.
28 June 2012 at 04:41 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../taliban-release-video-of-beheaded.../

Taliban release video of beheaded Pakistani soldiers
The beheading, claimed by the TTP, took place on Sunday when Taliban militants from Afghanistan infiltrated
into Upper Dir.
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../top-us-afghan-general-visits.../

Top US Afghan general visits Pakistan amid tension
The Pakistani military said US Marine Gen. John Allen's Wednesday visit would focus on border cooperation.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../presidents-contempt-of-court-hearing.../

Presidents contempt of court hearing adjourned
The Lahore High Court has completed the proceedings on petitions of contempt of court, filed against
President Asif Ali Zardari, for holding dual posts.
BY DAWN.COM
Yvonne Leadpencil http://www.thenewstribe.com/.../pakistan-disqualified.../...

No doubt London is where they have stashed their ill gotten gains. The UK should freeze all
their assets and deny them visas so they have to face the music in Pakistan.
Yousaf Raza Gilani family moves to London!
Karachi: The family of ineligible Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilana including his two controversial sons has
moved to London before the judgement of...
THENEWSTRIBE.COM
US and UK are paradises for all political convicts, exiles and pseudo democracy clowns
who escape from Asia
28 June 2012 at 17:56 Like 1
Asad Raheel Well said Senthil Ind.

28 June 2012 at 23:33 Like
Asad Raheel http://www.newslinemagazine.com/.../does-america-have.../

Does America have Pakistans Best Interest at Heart? | News & Politics | Newsline
Newsline Magazine, The leading current affairs magazine of Pakistan,...
NEWSLINEMAGAZINE.COM
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../eight-soldiers-dead-in-bara.../

Eight soldiers dead in Bara explosion
An official said that they were patrolling the area when the IED exploded and injured the personnel.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
Asad Raheel http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/NF30Ag02.html

Asia Times Online :: A Russia House on Indian Ocean
Asia Times Online. The Asia News Hub providing the latest news and analysis regarding economics, events
and trends in business, economy and politics...
http://www.thehindu.com/.../international/article3585052.ece
The Hindu : News / International : 13 killed in yet another target attack on
Hazara Shias
At least 13 people including women and children were killed on Thursday...
THEHINDU.COM|BY ANITA JOSHUA
http://www.pewglobal.org/.../pakistani-public-opinion.../
Pakistani Public Opinion Ever More Critical of U.S. | Pew Global Attitudes Project
Overview Following a year of tensions between their country and the United...
PEWGLOBAL.ORG
Asad Raheel Senthil Ind...this Pew poll is posted above...but no sweat!!

Yvonne Leadpencil Asad Raheel, who is really in charge in Pakistan?

http://tribune.com.pk/.../pakistan-secretly-permitting.../
Pakistan secretly permitting lethal NATO supply via air
Govt, military and US officials reluctant to comment on issue, point towards each other over decision.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
1 July 2012 at 11:01 Like Remove Preview

Yvonne Leadpencil http://www.aobm.org/.../aobm-on-the-visit-of-fazlur.../
The Association of British Muslims - AOBM On The Visit of Fazlur Rehman to the
United Kingdom
The Association of British Muslims views with serious concern to decision of...
AOBM.ORG
Asad Raheel The ISI, the Army Cheif & some of his Corps Commanders are the men whom
matter the most...the foriegn ministry, the PM & Zardari are just lip service in the context.
The air routes were never closed. Some tacit understanding (away from scrutiny & ire ...See
More
1 July 2012 at 13:34 Like 1
Asad Raheel The Maulana ie Fazal, that u have posted above is testimony to the success of
duplicity in Pak politics. As opposed to the views given in the OP-ed, he is on the Taliban
WANTED List. Therefore, he does not move an inch without proper security.
This Ma...See More
1 July 2012 at 14:09 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil Thanks for that Asad.

1 July 2012 at 14:23 Like
Asad Raheel http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?

fbid=234274399924659&set=a.214148895270543.63258.191339254218174&type=1&ref=n
f
The Friday Times

Doc Kazi's Collection
Completely anglicized and schooled in the Edwardian tradition Jinnah was more at home with the British and Non-Muslims
than his co-religio...
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Asad Raheel http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/515356

Bahrain News Agency | Six Killed in US Drone Strike in Pakistan
BNA.BH
Asad Raheel This is the SECOND visit of ISAF Commander Gen John Allen in the past
week.
http://dawn.com/.../isaf-commander-john-allen-arrives-in.../
ISAF commander John Allen arrives in Pakistan
ISAF commander, General John Allen has arrived in Islamabad for talks on the possible resumption of Nato
supplies from Pakistan to Afghanistan.
BY DAWN.COM
http://indrus.in/.../geopolitics_in_asia_russia_india_and...
http://indrus.in/articles/2012/06/29/geopolitics_in_asia_russia_india_and_pa
kistan-china_cooperation
INDRUS.IN
Asad Raheel Thanx fr the article Senthil Ind...plz also read this one posted ante : Asia Times
Online :: A Russia House on Indian Ocean.
The Chinese are also getting disenchanted with pak. On the KKH widening issue, the Chinese
were keen to do it itself but power...See More
2 July 2012 at 17:25 Unlike 1
Asad Raheel http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php...

Pervez Musharraf during visit to US vows return to 'suffering' Pakistan despite
Interpol arrest warr
Discussion forum on Pakistani politics
SIASAT.PK
Asad Raheel http://gulftoday.ae/.../fadb995f-4550-4ec0-9d03...

gulftoday.ae | Afghan officer kills 3 UK soldiers
KABUL: An Afghan police officer has killed three British soldiers serving with Nato in Afghanistans troubled
south, the latest in a series of escalating green...
GULFTODAY.AE
Yvonne Leadpencil Cowards!

Asad, on this question "will the US allow Russio-China influence in Pak?"

- My doubt is who is the US to allow or disallow Pakistan's foreign policy stance? This is
why I support Imran Khan - he has the right intentions and wants to serve people of Pa...See
More
3 July 2012 at 11:31 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil Why does everybody blame America for causing extremism..as if people
don't have a brain to think for themselves and make their own decisions of what is right and
what is wrong. Always pointing the finger somewhere else instead of themselves.
3 July 2012 at 11:35 Like 2
Lee Simpson Isn't it a fact that US cold war politics has propelled Afghanistan back to
stone age and then US govt attacked Taliban after conveniently ignoring all human rights
abuse for 10 years, and promised democracy building
3 July 2012 at 11:36 Like 1
is the democracy coming in a bullock-cart from 1979 till 2012, its taking so long :-O)
3 July 2012 at 11:37 Like 1
Bina BenChaim ind ,the US cold war politics had USSR for a partner ,u cannot blame it all
on the US
3 July 2012 at 11:55 Like 1
Bina, yes USSR was reforming Afghanistan remarkably (Saur rrevolution) until US
Govt entered for their geo-political interests and the region became mired in religious
extremism and collapse of stability
3 July 2012 at 11:57 Like 1
Bina BenChaim USA big mistake is that they havent realized that democracy has to be
learned..Machaivelli ,had already said ,hundreds of years ago, that it is very dangerous to try
and free a people that want to stay servile!!!
3 July 2012 at 11:57 Like 1
Bina BenChaim so did Eric Fromm in his famous book escape from freedom!!
Asad Raheel who...Erica Jong...Bina Benchaim?

"USA big mistake is that they haven't realized democracy has to be learned"
--> only if you assume the intention to enter the war is democracy building. what is promised
and what is actual objective are two different things
Asad Raheel Senthil has valid & strong points

Asad Raheel ...its just this Senthil...that I'm not one to forget favours....admittedly US policy
is far from perfect but I have mentioned of this before...Nichson in his autobiography has
mentioned that he had saved two countries from annihilation a. Israel in 1973 & Pakistan in
1971 (after the debacle of E pak...based on India's defence pact with Russia, the next mission
was to go for West Pak.
good point Asad, I agree. That's why I am happy Pakistan has nuclear bomb now, no
one should be able to threaten a sovereign state (including India)
3 July 2012 at 12:10 Like 1

Yvonne Leadpencil http://criticalppp.com/archives/82356
Why aren't the other news agencies reporting on this?
Pakistani extremists film massacre of Shiite minority group by France 24
TV | LUBP
Editors note: What was ignored by Pakistani media and foreign...
CRITICALPPP.COM
3 July 2012 at 13:23 Unlike 1 Remove Preview
That's why I don't depend only on BBC and CNN, but also subscribe to Ghana and
Nigeria times
3 July 2012 at 13:27 Like 2
Asad Raheel Pakistan has officially decided to re-open the ISAF, land supply routes. This is
sequel to admittance of fault by Secretary of State Mrs Clinton & apology of Commander
ISAF Gen John Allen...over the Salala attacks (resulting in the death of 24 Pak troops)...Hali
Jilani
Asad Raheel 18 passengers shot dead in Turbat

http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?newsid=196496...
ONLINENEWS.COM.PK
DrIjaz Inayat Sad, every body knows who shot them.

7 July 2012 at 01:40 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../07/07/twenty-die-in-double-drone-attack/

Twenty die in double drone attack
MIRAMSHAH, July 6: Twenty people were killed and four others injured when missiles fired by US drones
slammed into a residential compound in North...
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://tribune.com.pk/.../foreign-intelligence-agencies.../

Foreign intelligence agencies behind Balochistan situation: Justice Javed Iqbal
Head of judicial commission on missing persons says foreign agencies want to...
TRIBUNE.COM.PK

DrIjaz Inayat He is right but the Government is sleeping over it. The work done by some
agencies of Pakistan is undone by Chief sahib.
Asad Raheel http://security.blogs.cnn.com/.../deadly-weekend-in.../

Deadly weekend in Afghanistan
CNN\'s Security Clearance examines national and global security, terrorism and intelligence, as well as the
economic, military, political and diplomatic effects of...
SECURITY.BLOGS.CNN.COM
9 July 2012 at 17:58 Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel http://zeenews.india.com/.../14-killed-in-blast-near...

14 killed in blast near Pakistan-Afghan border
At least 14 people were killed after a landmine blast occurred in the border town of Chaman.
ZEENEWS.INDIA.COM
Asad Raheel This is Not in the FATA or the border region...this is in Central Pakistan (the
Punjab province)...therefore more alarming. It indicates that the Taleban have tentacles, all
over Pakistan.
http://paktribune.com/.../Eight-killed-in-attack-on-army...
Eight killed in attack on army camp in Gujrat
GUJRAT: At least eight security personnel including seven soldiers and a police cop were killed and three
others injured when unknown miscreants attacked...
PAKTRIBUNE.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=58242

Nawaz and Imran support US: Cameron Munter - geo.tv
KARACHI: US Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter in an interview to BBC Urdu said he had met with
both Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan who had...
GEO.TV
Asad Raheel http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=58021

Nato supply resumption challenged in SC - geo.tv
LAHORE: The reopening of Nato supply lines has been challenged in the Supreme Court Lahore Registry by
Barrister Zafar ullah Khan, Geo News...
GEO.TV
Asad Raheel http://gulfnews.com/.../afghans-protest-public-execution...

Afghans protest public execution of woman accused of adultery
22-year-old victim was shot dead as dozens of men cheered in a village
GULFNEWS.COM
Sierra Stout Brave sisters...

12 July 2012 at 01:00 Like 2
DrIjaz Inayat Thanks God, they started protesting against bad happenings. Good omen.
12 July 2012 at 02:29 Like 3
Asad Raheel Another TALIBAN Attack in the HEARTLAND of Pakistan.

http://news.asiaone.com/.../A1Story20120712-358721.html
Gunmen kill 9 security personnel in Pakistan's Lahore
Pakistan's main umbrella Taliban faction claimed responsibility. -AFP
NEWS.ASIAONE.COM
DrIjaz Inayat Compare this with the attack on the Armed forces in Gujrat a few days ago
and killing 18 Army personal in Upper Dir a few weeks ago. The Taliban handed over the
dead bodies to Pakistan on payment of ten million today. The misery of Pakistan lies with
giving them a free hand.
Asad Raheel http://www.firstpost.com/.../why-its-foolish-to-expect-a...

Why its foolish to expect a Pak mea culpa on terror
The new Pakistani Ambassador has rubbished all reports of state support for anti-India terror. Time we
accepted what Pak won't do and change our...
FIRSTPOST.COM|BY R JAGANNATHAN
Asad Raheel http://www.hindustantimes.com/.../Article1-892331.aspx

US House votes to cut $650 mn in military aid to Pak - Hindustan Times
In a latest jab at Pakistan by the US, the House of Representatives has...
HINDUSTANTIMES.COM
Asad Raheel http://paktribune.com/.../Britain-Pakistan-back-bid-for...

Britain, Pakistan back bid for Afghan peace
KABUL: Afghan efforts to negotiate with the Taliban need Islamabad's help if they are to be successful, the
leaders of Afghanistan, Britain and Pakistan...
PAKTRIBUNE.COM
Asad Raheel A Perspective on the ongoing TUSSLE between the JUDICIARY & GOVT in
PAK
http://dawn.com/2012/07/21/a-day-at-the-bullfight/
A day at the bullfight
DESPITE the traditions and colour surrounding bullfighting, the bull really has no chance in the arena.
DAWN.COM|BY IRFAN HUSAIN
Asad Raheel GWADAR, Pakistan, July 21 (UPI) -- Gunmen attacked a coast guard check
post in a southwest Pakistan port city Saturday, killing eight security officials and injuring
two others, officials said.
http://www.upi.com/.../8-killed-at.../UPI-57161342892188/...
8 killed at Pakistan coast guard check post
Gunmen attacked a coast guard check post in a southwest Pakistan port city Saturday, killing eight security
officials and injuring two others, officials said.
UPI.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-article-display-1.asp...

Zardari: Oppn must wait for 8 months for polls - Khaleej Times
KARACHI Quashing speculation about early general elections, President Asif...
KHALEEJTIMES.COM
Akhundzada Arif Hasan Khan These are the questions most avoided...
22 July 2012 at 03:18 Like
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Afghanistan-Gurkha...
Afghanistan: Gurkha honoured for lone fight against Taliban - Telegraph
A Gurkha soldier has received one of the highest awards for bravery for...
TELEGRAPH.CO.UK
Asad Raheel http://www.sananews.net/.../isi-chief-reaches-washington.../

ISI chief reaches Washington for intelligence talks
WASHINGTON, (SANA): Inter-Services-Intelligence Chief Lieutenant General Zaheerul-Islam reached
Washington for holding talks with his US counterpart in
SANANEWS.NET
2 August 2012 at 00:04 Like Remove Preview

Asad Raheel http://dawn.com/.../brig-ali-khan-four-other-officers.../
Brig Ali Khan, four other officers convicted in mutiny case
The Field General Court Marshal (FGCM) has awarded a sentence of five years Rigorous Imprisonment (RI)
to Brigadier Ali Khan, ISPR statement said.
BY DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel The unenviable state of diplomatic relations between two allies ie the US &
Pak are due to
a. Both of them being BAD LOSERs in a War, which shud not have been started...See More
Pakistan Observer, Online News, Pakistan News, Pakistan Newspaper, News
Arround the Globe
Pakistan Observer is a Newspaper Daily from Islamabad, Pakistan. With News...
PAKOBSERVER.NET
http://www.firstpost.com/.../hindu-exodus-from-pak-report...
Hindu exodus from Pak? Report leaves pilgrims in lurch
Hindu pilgrims travelling to India are stranded at the Wagah border after a sensational claim that they were
emigrating to India. The episode risks...
FIRSTPOST.COM
10 August 2012 at 20:40 Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel KABUL: Afghan officials said Wednesday that 41 people, mostly civilians, had
been killed in two devastating attacks blamed on the Taliban.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-63458-Afghans-says...
Afghans says bombing death toll at 41 - thenews.com.pk
KABUL: Afghan officials said Wednesday that 41 people, mostly civilians, had been killed in two devastating
attacks blamed on the Taliban. In the worst attack for months, ...
THENEWS.COM.PK
Sandra Vh so horrible
16 August 2012 at 01:46 Like 1
Ali A. Naqvi Who came up with AfPak region in here? On a channel with South Asians? You
managed to absorb a loaded and politicised nomenklatura and still think the debate is going to
be fair?
Asad Raheel "On a channel with South Asians? You managed to absorb a loaded and
politicised nomenklatura and still think the debate is going to be fair?"
We are trying to get more members, who are Martians, like you, Ali A. Naqvi.
16 August 2012 at 03:22 Like
Ali A. Naqvi Asad Raheel - the passive aggressiveness, ain't funny and it certainly ain't cute.
I'm sure enough people are wearing tin foil hats anyway. ...See More
Asad Raheel "Afpak was invented as lobbying term, to separate out Afghanistan and
Pakistan from India".
Well, on this forum, its not really a question of lobbying (or bias) as this thread is fr
Afghanistan & Pakistan; there being a separate dedicated thread, to India, alone....See More
Ali A. Naqvi Whcih means you fell for the narrative

Asad Raheel "you fell for the narrative"

Cud I have not fallen, fr u, instead? Ali A. Naqvi
16 August 2012 at 05:42 Unlike 1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../095399ca-edc3-11e1-b624...
Pakistan: US drone-fired missiles slam into hideouts, kill 18 suspected militants
American missiles slammed into militant hideouts close to the Afghan border...
WASHINGTONPOST.COM
http://www.reuters.com/.../us-usa-afghanistan...
Taliban behind a quarter of Afghan insider attacks: general
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. general leading NATO forces in Afghanistan acknowledged on Thursday
that the Taliban could be traced to...
REUTERS.COM
Asad Raheel Gen PERVEZ MUSHARRAF

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?
fbid=483780781651453&set=a.436931539669711.113379.193580574004810&type=1&ref=
nf
Apmlpedia.com with District Bahawalpur Apml and 41 others

President Musharraf with his family
25 August 2012 at 05:08 Unlike 2 Remove Preview
I think Prez Musharaff is one of the few leaders in Pakistan who people in India
respects, his autobiography 'In the line of fire' became best seller in India and sold off within
days of launch
Taliban cockroaches showing their courage with defenseless civilians

http://www.rawa.org/.../taliban-behead-17-civilians...
Taliban behead 17 civilians, including women in Helmand for attending music
event RAWA News
AFP: Seventeen civilians were beheaded, 10 Afghan soldiers killed and two...
RAWA.ORG
Asad Raheel http://tehrantimes.com/.../101143-taliban-launch-deadly...

Taliban launch deadly attack on U.S. base
Tehran Times - Iran's Leading International Daily
TEHRANTIMES.COM
3 September 2012 at 00:31 Unlike 1 Remove Preview
Nicole Simms My daughter has a bf who is in Afganistan. She spoke to him the other dayu
after we were all hoping it wasnt him killed as Aussie soldiers reported killed that day. He
cant say anything about whats going on but did ask what has been reported and my dau...See
More
3 September 2012 at 02:29 Unlike 2

Asad Raheel http://www.npr.org/.../u-s-adds-hakani-network-to...
U.S. Adds Haqqani Network To Terrorism Blacklist : NPR
The U.S. has decided to add one of the main Afghan insurgent groups to its terrorism list. The decision
targets the Haqqani network, which has staged...
NPR.ORG
Tinker Smile All terrorist should face an iron fist.

Ezaz Ahmed Oryo Raheel, this declaration would simply mean that all attempts to negotiate
with Haqqanies have failed. Which I think is a blessing for Afgan security. One thing we have
to remember that US interest in Af-Pak & the interest of Pakistan isn't the same th...See More
Kishor Shah Holding on with AFG is useless and expensive affair for Pakistan, as I think. It
would be wiser from them to ease up a little so that there is some commercial benefit also.
Ezaz Ahmed Oryo Only if other parties had thought so!!! Everybody is facing the same
situation.
http://dawn.com/.../13/seven-workers-gunned-down-in-mastung/
Seven workers gunned down in Mastung
Four workers died on the spot by the firing while three succumbed to their injuries on the way to the hospital,
Levies sources confirmed.
DAWN.COM
http://www.aljazeera.com/.../2012/09/2012923522833684.html
Chinese official makes landmark Afghan visit
Domestic security chief Zhou Yongkang is first high-level Chinese visitor to Kabul since 1966, sign of building
ties.
ALJAZEERA.COM
"It is in line with the fundamental interests of the two peoples for China and
Afghanistan to strengthen a strategic and co-operative partnership ... conducive to regional
peace, stability and development," Zhou said, according to the report.
Zhou, a...See More

Asad Raheel The way Pakistan, once upon a time was :

http://dawn.com/2012/09/27/also-pakistan-v/
Also Pakistan V
Nadeem F. Paracha takes us down memory lane with yet another memorable collection of photographs of
the Pakistan that was.
DAWN.COM
Amira Khalil interesting
http://www.khaama.com/suicide-blast-kill-3-nato-troops.../
Suicide blast kill 3 NATO troops in eastern Afghanistan - Khaama Press (KP) |
Afghan Online Newspape
The largest online news portal in Afghanistan
KHAAMA.COM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-18028-How-it...
How it looked from inside the anti-drone PTI march
TANK: No matter how cynical you may be, it was difficult not to accept that Imran Khans rally against US
drone attacks in Waziristan was an effective and...
THENEWS.COM.PK
Pakistan suicide bomb 'kills 10'
At least 10 people are killed in a suicide bombing attack on a market in north-west Pakistan, according to
local security officials.
BBC.CO.UK
http://edition.cnn.com/.../pakistan-blasphemy/index.html
Bail granted to Pakistani cleric accused of framing girl in Quran case - CNN.com
The Muslim cleric accused of framing a young Christian girl in a blasphemy...
CNN.COM

DAILYTIMES.COM.PK
http://www.voanews.com/.../karzai.../1526234.html
Karzai: Afghanistan, Pakistan Should Coordinate Anti-terrorism Efforts
Call follows Taliban attack on 14-year-old Pakistani education activist Malala...
VOANEWS.COM
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/news/11627/
SAARC conference begins in Islamabad
ISLAMBAD: Delegations have started arriving in Islamabad to participate in the conference. Th
THEFRONTIERPOST.COM
http://www.dailypioneer.com/.../105926-imrans-crocodile...
Imran's crocodile tears
Sir This refers to the editorial, Tall talk but no action (October 31) and the article, Malala couldve been
my child (October 30)...
DAILYPIONEER.COM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../German-Neo-Nazi-turned...
German Neo-Nazi turned jihadist who went to fight in Afghanistan admits he
made a 'big mistake' afte
The German man, who was only named as Thomas U, spoke of his regret...
DAILYMAIL.CO.UK
http://www.rferl.org/.../pakistan-malala.../24757873.html
Malala's Schoolmate Says Taliban Bullet Has Only Strengthened Her Resolve
A classmate and friend of Malala Yousafzai who was shot alongside the...
RFERL.ORG
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../artic.../17151685.cms
Three troopers killed in Karachi suicide bombing - The Times of India

At least three troopers were killed and 26 others, including five civilians, injured...
Asad Raheel Eight more killed in Karachi today. A senior police officer killed in Peshawar
yesterday...& the count goes on...& on.
http://www.thehindu.com/.../24-killed.../article4087418.ece
24 killed in Karachi voilence
At least 24 people have been killed in various incidents of target killings in Pakistans biggest city in the last
24 hours.
THEHINDU.COM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../afghanistan-bombing...
Bombings Kill 20 In Afghanistan
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) Roadside bombs and a suicide bomber killed 20 people in a spate of attacks
across Afghanistan on Thursday, officials said....
HUFFINGTONPOST.COM
http://twocircles.net/.../us_should_go_after_source...
US should go after source of terror, says Karzai | TwoCircles.net
New Delhi: In a veiled reference to Pakistan, Afghanistan President Hamid...
TWOCIRCLES.NET
Taliban targeted Pakistan anchor
The Pakistani Taliban say they were behind a failed attempt to kill one of Pakistan's best known television
presenters, Hamid Mir.
BBC.CO.UK
Asad Raheel It was a pretty close call.

http://www.thehindu.com/.../an.../article4195995.ece
An orchestrated protest in Swat?
Peace activist and girls' education advocate Malala Yousafzai may have become a global icon for standing
up to the Taliban but back home in Pakistan, she...
THEHINDU.COM
http://tribune.com.pk/.../afghan-taliban-seek-charter.../
Afghan Taliban seek charter reform in Paris meeting
Chief mediator signals willingness to share power with other groups.
TRIBUNE.COM.PK
What is Taliban doing in Paris lol

http://indrus.in/.../terrorism_in_pakistan_a_view_from...
Terrorism in Pakistan: A View from Moscow | Russia & India Report
Russia should make every effort to help recover the pattern of civil society in...
INDRUS.IN
Asad Raheel ...And FINALLY, Ladies & Gentlemen

http://www.iol.co.za/.../us-to-meet-taliban-to-seek...
US to meet Taliban to seek Afghan peace - World News | IOL News | IOL.co.za
South Africa's Premier Online News Source. Discover the world of IOL, News South Africa, Sport, Business,
Financial, World News, Entertainment, Technology, Motoring, Travel, Property, Classifieds & more.
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19 June 2013 at 03:55 Edited Like Remove Preview
Yvonne Leadpencil 'US to meet Taliban to seek peace'. Hahahaha!

19 June 2013 at 02:46 Like 3
Asad Raheel Americans always try to do the right thing - after theyve tried everything else.
~ Winston Churchill
23 June 2013 at 11:40 Like 4
Yvonne Leadpencil There will never be peace with Taliban, they are like crocodiles.
23 June 2013 at 15:33 Like 4
Yvonne Leadpencil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MAHad3hUP8

Never Smile at a Crocodile
Thank You Disney.

YOUTUBE.COM
Asad Raheel Sean Karlin

I noticed that many of the members to this list are from Pakistan. With President Obama
talking about pulling all US troops out of Afganistan, I wonder what the people who live in
the region and will be most effected think about this. Has t...See More
10 July 2013 at 23:19 Like
Asad Raheel Monika Sethuraman Reddy For constructive role

It turned out that the Pakistanis wanted a special relationship to be institutionalised with
Afghanistan, code language for prioritising Pakistan in its affairs. They demanded the
sidelining of India (not...See More
10 July 2013 at 23:21 Like
Ezaz Ahmed Oryo Afghanistan's main importance is strategic, which probably is a bad news
for it, our jolly good US brothers has done an excellent job of overthrowing their old
fundamentalist allies from power. Now extension of US presence is just drawing more and
more...See More
11 July 2013 at 00:37 Like 1
Yvonne Leadpencil It is hard to develop an economy when everything that is progressive is

targeted by the Taliban.
I hear China is mining there, perhaps they will have better luck at producing something when
Russia and America have failed even though both have sunk billions of dollars into that black
hole.
11 July 2013 at 05:24 Like 2
Asad Raheel " After invasion of India by Pakistan in 1965"

In Pak, schoolchildren are taught that India attacked Pakistan in 1965. However the fact is
that Pakistan attacked first. Not only this Pakistan also sent in troops to Kashmir in 1948,
Kishorji. Further m...See More
12 July 2013 at 00:23 Like
Asad Raheel Monika Sethuraman Reddy I hope i don get baited for saying this : Pakistan
just like China( anti-Japan history texts) , had been vitally injecting wrong history , this is
another reason why many budding Nationalist too crave for Kashmir.. And the truth...See More
12 July 2013 at 01:22 Like
Asad Raheel Thanx fr your replies, Monika Sethuraman Reddy. Had u replied question wise
wud not have the replies been more meaningful?
12 July 2013 at 01:31 Edited Like
Maheshwari Asad Raheel " Had u replied question wise wud have the replies not have been
more meaningful? " un able to understand what u are trying to convey Sir
12 July 2013 at 01:32 Like
Maheshwari Indo-Pak issue is brought up , in a Pak-Afghan topic ... Asad Raheel Sir ...........
I am finding myself in middle of nowhere ... And on Afghan , Afghan president Hamid Karzai
issued a strong statement against US and boycotted its peace talks , later...See More
Asad Raheel The reason fr not creating a separate thread on Indo-Pak Relations, was that
majority of new entrants esp youngsters, from both sides of the divide, wud find such a title
too enticing & then get provoked into more fighting & less discussion. Moreover, ...See More
Asad Raheel http://www.brecorder.com/.../128930-cia-scales-back-bases...
BRECORDER.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.bangkokpost.com/.../bombers-target-pakistan...

Bombers target Pakistan ISI office, 7 dead
Suicide gunmen and car bombers attacked a government complex housing offices of Pakistan's top
intelligence agency Wednesday, sparking a shootout...
BANGKOKPOST.COM|BY POST PUBLISHING PCL.
Asad Raheel http://www.nytimes.com/.../taliban-claims-deadly-attack...

Taliban Claims Deadly Attack on Pakistan Spy Agency
At least nine people were killed in an attack on a regional office that again highlighted the militants ability to
strike sensitive targets.
NYTIMES.COM|BY SALMAN MASOOD
Asad Raheel http://www.irishexaminer.com/.../armed-taliban...

Armed Taliban prisonbreak frees 250 in Pakistan
Dozens of Taliban armed with guns, grenades and bombs have attacked a prison in north west Pakistan,
freeing more than 250 prisoners, including 25...
IRISHEXAMINER.COM
Robert Skees There was a prison break in Iraq too recently....I wonder if AQ / Taliban are
doing all this in tandem...and if any of the escapees have the ingenuity to commit large scale
harm.
Gen Kiyani is thinking of retirement benefits and not country, what a clown he turned
out to be
Asad Raheel Video of TALIBAN JAIL BREAK in PAKISTAN...250 Taliban released,

including one sentenced for 1616 yrs in Jail.
http://www.incpak.com/.../ttp-released-d-i-khan.../
TTP Released D.I Khan Jailbreak Video footage. - Exclusive
Tehrek e Taliban released the video footage of the Jailbreak, in which everything clearly can be seen while its
happening, D.I Khan Jailbreak
INCPAK.COM
4 August 2013 at 19:04 Edited Unlike 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel A police station house officer was gunned down yesterday, in Quetta. At his
funeral today...suicide bombing. So far...over 30 dead...more of the injured, likely to follow.
EID MUBARIK.
http://www.chron.com/.../Suicide-bomber-kills-23-at...
Suicide bomber kills 23 at funeral in Pakistan
QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) A suicide bomber attacked a funeral for a policeman in southwestern Pakistan on
Thursday, killing 23 people, including a senior...
CHRON.COM
"Youcan not say no to a big man"

--> Small countries like Vietnam and Cuba have proved otherwise, when Fidel Castro was
threatened during cuban missile crisis, he reportedly mentioned to Kruschev that its ok if
Cuba is nuked, but atleast two American cities should also be nuked. This may sound like
irrational or mad statement to make but you need leaders like that who do not succumb to
bullying
8 August 2013 at 21:44 Edited Like 2
Asad Raheel http://jasmeen2013.blogspot.com/.../truth-behind-my...

Jasmeen Manzoor Blog: "TRUTH" Behind My Silence !
JASMEEN2013.BLOGSPOT.COM|BY JASMEEN MANZOOR
Asad Raheel Amrullah Saleh is probably, the brightest guy around, in the current Afghan
political scene. However, I wonder how pragmatic. Here are some of his views...which I am
inclined to agree with to some extent, Eve Simpson
Explaining the reason why the West...See More
16 August 2013 at 01:02 Edited Like 1
Kishor Shah Fissures ultimately will divide North & South,as I apprehend.
Asad Raheel The Taliban have claimed responsibility fr this...the govt of Pakistan, attributes
it to a landmine explosion
http://dawn.com/.../major-general-sanaullah-niazi-killed...
Major General and Lieutenant Colonel killed in IED attack in North Waziristan DAWN.COM
Moreover, another was injured when a roadside IED targeted their vehicle...
DAWN.COM|BY AGENCIES | DAWN.COM
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Asad Hasan Kizilbash Nawaz and Imran Khan are playing deaf, dumb, and mute. They dare
not even take the name of Taliban out loud, while continuing their policy of sucking up to
them. I don't know if playing the three wise monkeys goes to benefit the very foundations of
this country.
Asad Raheel Perhaps, they & the Pak Army Chief are waiting for the Taliban to kill a few
more generals..of Pak Army..Asad Hasan Kizilbash
John Heiser When the 'so-called extremists who are calling themselves Sunni' end their
plans to exterminate the Shi'ites, the Sufi, the Ammadihya,(sp?), the secular and the real
Sunni, then peace can come, not before. Israel, France, the United States(as governmen...See
More
Asad Raheel This Mullah might be holding the key, to Afghan peace.
http://www.dawn.com/.../pakistan-releases-top-afghan...
Pakistan releases top Taliban prisoner Mullah Baradar - DAWN.COM
Baradar was released amidst hopes that he could be the game-changer for...
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
Yvonne Leadpencil Why would only he hold the key to peace, Asad?
Asad Raheel Asad Hasan Kizilbash

A church in Peshawar hit by 2 suicide bombers. Around 60 deaths confirmed and the toll
continues to rise. It all happened when the Sunday services were near conclusion. ...See More
22 September 2013 at 15:06 Edited Like
Asad Raheel This man, HAKEEMULLAH MEHSUD (the head of the major faction of the
Pakistani Taliban ie the TTP) was reputed to have nine lives. However, this time, he appears
to have been hit.
http://dawn.com/.../drone-kills-pakistani-taliban-chief...
US drone kills five suspected militants in North Waziristan - DAWN.COM
Military sources told Dawn.com that a compound was completely destroyed...
DAWN.COM|BY DAWN.COM | ZAHIR SHAH SHERAZI
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Yvonne Leadpencil Good shot!

Asad Raheel " Eve, you mean the drone shot?"

I wud not think that the US wud be giving the Taliban, exactly a Depo-Provera (birth control)
shot, Sir John!!

Asad Raheel DrIjaz Inayat.
6 hours ago
HAKIMULLAH MASOOD is a beloved of God, who has been summoned by God to appear
in person to report as to why he and his group could not achieved the target of killing over a
hundred thousand in the prescribed time....See More
2 November 2013 at 12:35 Edited Like 1
Asad Raheel Imran Khan (IK): That this event occured, when peace negotiations between
the Taliban & the Govt of Pakistan, were underway, its obvious as to who does not want these
negotiations to succeed & who is keen that stability & normalcy may not be restored in
Pakistan...implying the US.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100747688922421
Imran Khan's reaction to latest drone strike

02:27
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
Imran Khan: One thing has been proven today, Whenever Pakistan tries Peace Talks, there is a drone strike. We will try to
get KPK Assembly to pass a bill to block NATO supplies and I will take the resolution to National Assembly myself.
2 Taliban heads by drone hits is priceless, so is 7 CIA officials taken down by Taliban
with bomb hits in 2009, may the fireworks continue
Yvonne Leadpencil Whose side are you on Sentil?
Yvonne Leadpencil They have been hunting that guy for years and they just got lucky. I
don't think timing and peace talks had anything to do with it. Like you, I think 'peace talks'
mean nothing in the long run, I have never heard of Jihadis wanting peace of any kind.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash As far as Imran Khan is concerned I can only surmise that either is a
diehard pro-Taliban politician or at best extremely naive.
I do not think that any negotiations with the likes of Taliban or any other extremist group are
productive or worth holdin...See More
Asad Raheel "I do not think that any negotiations with the likes of Taliban or any other
extremist group are productive or worth holding. Aims of Taliban are contradictory to the
very principles of the Founder of this nation".
I have also expressed the futility i...See More
US disrupts Afghan bid to court Pakistani militants - DAWN.COM
The Afghans were trying to work with the Pakistani Taliban in order to gain...
DAWN.COM
3 November 2013 at 14:57 Edited Like 2 Remove Preview
Ishrat Gul US killed its own TT Pentagon to stop peace dialogue, they do take every bloody
step to destabilize pakistan.
Ishrat Gul US hunted this HakeemULAH mehsoond now ,not before although he has been
gone to afghanistan twice before but they didnt see him there as that was not the right time.
They eliminated him from the game as it they thought it the right time because Pakistan took
every possible step to start negotiations with TTP and solve this issue once for all.
Asad Raheel "US hunted this HakeemULAH mehsoond now ,not before"
That there have been previous drone strikes targetting him, contradicts, this view..Ishrat
Gul ...See More
Asad Raheel " why did Taliban announce the news? If I was fighting I would never let the
enemy know our chief has been killed, this is not morale boosting news for their operators"
Sir John Zaffar, in this internet age...hardly anything can be hidden (eg if the C...See More

Amira Khalil I agree that denial would definitely be a sign of weakness, my gut says that
talks with the Taliban are pointless, why would anyone in their right mind negotiate with
these thugs, and what do these negotiations entail, new burqa styles longer pubic hair for
men? lol
Asad Raheel " they all look the same from the plane".
Do you mean that all cats look gey in the night, Sir John Zaffar?...but not to the CIA's drones
& toAmira Khalil...lol
Yvonne Leadpencil Talibans all look the same from a plane John? But what if they have
micro-chips planted on them so bombs can target them electronically. It is able to be done.
Asad Raheel " I am not convinced that they themselves if they have sense admit to the world
that there own chief has been killed"
Sir John Zaffar...u seem to be FIXATED to an idea & are not letting go of it, despite Eve
Simpson, telling u the secret, as to how its done. Amira Khalil, it appears, also knows, how to
plant micro-chips...& cud have been trained fr the same.
3 November 2013 at 04:35 Edited Like
Amira Khalil Microchips, that's a secret, how did you find out I plant them?
Amira Khalil I did not read what Eve posted, but yes they do put chips on houses. One
problem that arises is the use of these chips to settle personal scores!
Asad Hasan Kizilbash For a military organization, it is necessary to follow a leader, and the
whole organization needs to be clear about the identity of the leader to avoid any confusion
and to maintain discipline.
TTP being a military organization, and quite an efficient...See More
Asad Raheel Sir John Zaffar & Asad Hasan Kizilbash

http://www.dawn.com/.../smooth-succession-in-ttp-unlikely
Smooth succession in TTP unlikely - DAWN.COM
THE quest for succession has begun in earnest and understandably so. Unlike the near-smooth
succession of...
DAWN.COM
3 November 2013 at 14:25 Edited Like Remove Preview
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../imran-vows-to-block-nato-supplies...

Imran vows to block Nato supplies in KP - DAWN.COM
The Tehrik-i-Insaf chief said his party would also table resolutions in the KP, Sindh and National assemblies.
BY DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../us-dismisses-claims-drone-strike...

US dismisses claims drone strike hurt Pakistan talks - DAWN.COM
A State Department official said the issue of whether to negotiate with the...
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
Asad Hasan Kizilbash Imran Khan has the advantage of not sitting in the PM's chair. So, I
guess he is free to make irresponsible and naive statements. I have stopped taking him
seriously. Poor guy is desperately trying to gain more votes in the next elections.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash US is right. Drones help Pakistan in getting rid of at least major
leaders and activists from the terrorist camps. If they ever decide to eliminate terrorism at
some point in time, it would be quite helpful. With the gradual decimation of leaders, les...See
More
Sarfaraz Khan Hakimullah Mehsud was infamous or popular, take your pick, because of an
established penchant for Badla or revenge. To honour his memory the TTP has warned of an
unprecedented reprisal.. While mindless bombings can almost immediately continue, they
might want a high value target.
Sarfaraz Khan Next, Imran Khan wants to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. He
perhaps wants to generate political clout in KPK. Possibly looking for the blessings of the
TTP to enable him to roam the streets free from fear. Nawaz is up a gum tree. Nobody p...See
More
Asad Hasan Kizilbash John, actually they are helping themselves, and on the way helping
Pakistanis as well.
I agree that when it was in US interest, they encouraged Jihad against the communist Soviets.
Creation of Mujahidin was a joint venture of CIA, Saudis, and the ISI....See More
Asad Hasan Kizilbash US realized much later that it was time to kill the Frankenstein they
had created after 9/11. Pakistan somehow is taking much longer to realize the danger of
flirting with the same monster. Saudis are happy that Pakistan and a number of other
countries are gradually looking more and more Salafist, magic of their petro-dollars.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash So, we can't blame only US for all this mess.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash It became Pakistan's war the day Zia decided to help the US fight the
Soviet forces in Afghanistan.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash And sooner the better if Pakistan realizes that one more time the US
and Pakistan interest have become common in the war against terrorists. It is not the time to
debate who created them and try to blame others. Pakistan can only blame their past leader
Mullah Zia, if they really have an urge to do so.
Bill Miessner The U.S. did not create Bin Laden/Al Qaeda as is often (falsely) asserted. The
CIA worked strictly with the Afghans and had no association or gave any help to the Saudi
radicals.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash The funny thing amongst brainwashed Pakistanis is that they do not
feel outraged by the presence of Afghan, Arab, Chechan, and other foreign forces and their
Pakistani alkies on their soil. Forces which are killing their soldiers, robbing their
banks, ...See More
Asad Hasan Kizilbash Bill, here you might be mistaken. Osama was a creation of the US,
gifted to them by their ally the Saudis.
Asad Hasan Kizilbash He later on turned against the US as well as the Saudi King is another
matter. That is what happens when you create Frankensteins.
Asad Raheel " The DAWN article on TTP succession is prior to their announcement of the
name of a new leader"
No successor has formally been nominated, even today. Asad Hasan Kizilbash, Sir John
Zaffar.
John Zaffar why the delay? it is confusing, yesterday they wanted to announce the leader so
there is no contention and tension in their forces any more., asad kizibash you are correct
Osama was the product of CIA, it is thereir policyto use the people and then destroy them.
Sarfaraz Khan Khalid Said Sajna has been nominated I thought.
Asad Raheel The suspense that you were in, shud now end...Meet your friend, Sir John
Zaffar. However, I'm still not sure if this is final as there are a lot of divides, within the
Taliban, also.
http://www.dawn.com/.../ttps-ruthless-new-commander...
TTPs ruthless new commander Fazlullah - DAWN.COM
Mullah Fazlullah has a reputation to do anything to enforce his uncompromising interpretation of Islamic law.
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
15 November 2013 at 14:06 Edited Unlike 1 Remove Preview
Yvonne Leadpencil Shoot to kill.

Asad Raheel Army lambasts Jama'at-e-Islami chief for calling terrorists martyrs
Asia News,...
DAILYTIMES.COM.PK
Asad Raheel Mustafa Kemal at the head of the Turkish army swept away the cobwebs of the
past, smashed old superstitions, and created a new nation. Pakistans secular elites, led by the
army, created new superstitions and instead of taking Pakistan into the future,...See More
Has the army learned its lesson? - Ayaz Amir
Is the army happy now? When you play with fire and ride the dragons back its too much to hope that once
you try to get down the fire will not scorch you....
THENEWS.COM.PK
Asad Raheel DrIjaz Inayat, Sean Karlin, Asad Hasan Kizilbash, Eve Simpson, Sarfaraz
Khan,Imtiaz Mahmood
15 November 2013 at 15:29 Edited Like
Kishor Shah Pakistan tried to draw a parallel in Junagarh type annexation of Kashmir and
failed. The failure largely was on account of Rajakars engagements in looting the public of
Kashmir (occupied portion) and lost to draw a parallel like Junagarh. They failed ...See More
Asad Raheel http://www.dw.de/germans-among-the-dead-in.../a-17380525

'Germans among the dead' in Pakistan air raid on extremists | News | DW.DE |
22.01.2014
Pakistan's air force has staged one of its largest raids against the Taliban in...
DW.DE|BY DEUTSCHE WELLE (WWW.DW.DE)
22 January 2014 at 23:18 Unlike 1 Remove Preview
Megan S Mills Bin Lid when kicked out of Sudan returned to KSA, given $.5 million to
settle down and do service work. He forthwith appeared in Afghanistan. Yes, we were all told
the story of how he was US's boy. Nope. AQ pinup boy. He may have fired a gun Once ...See
More
28 February 2014 at 00:45 Edited 1
Asad Raheel Of the ongoing NEGOTIATIONS between the Taliban & the Govt of Pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/.../govt-started-war-will...
Govt started war, will have to declare ceasefire first: Taliban
MIRANSHAH: As the Pakistani government has refused to hold talks with the Taliban unless they halt
attacks, the outlawed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan...
DAILYTIMES.COM.PK
22 February 2014 at 05:00 Edited Like Remove Preview
Amira Khalil You can't negotiate with these people, they are lunatics!
Amira Khalil Taliban are criminals; dialogue senseless

SUKKUR: Opposition Leader in the National Assembly Syed Khurshid Shah
Yvonne Leadpencil This is precisely the time for the Airforce to step up the attacks. Calling
for ceasefire means they are weakened already.
Yvonne Leadpencil Shoot to kill.

Asad Raheel "Shoot to kill"

Kill or be killed....Musharraf.
Asad Raheel "You can't negotiate with these people, they are lunatics!"
...And they are worse than animals...See More
Pakistan Virtual Elections - Join if you support Gen (r) Pervez M

Insan ke Bais Mein Hawan Se Badtreeen Janwar !!~
@Sadaf Khan!~
Asad Raheel Finally, it appears that the Pakistan Army is earnest about Military Action,
against the Taliban. Airstrikes commenced against them since the past few days. However,
neither have a break down of negotiations or the Operation, formally been, announced.
http://www.dawn.com/.../military-operation-in-north...
Military operation in North Waziristan imminent: US paper - DAWN.COM
An official told the Washington Post that Pakistan already had 150,000 troops...
DAWN.COM|BY ANWAR IQBAL
27 February 2014 at 16:11 Edited Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel Eve Simpson, Munnum Pirzada, Sen Ind, Ibn E Tamim
27 February 2014 at 16:42 Edited Unlike 1
this is one of the oldest and politically important threads here, nice to see this thread
grow so well
Asad Raheel Chris Bean, Dragenfly Ups

28 February 2014 at 02:24 Edited Like 1
Chris Bean Afghanistan? Same as anywhere else. I thought we Brits would have learned our
lesson in the Khyber Pass...
It is my opinion that the only people who can sort out their affairs are themselves. It is up to
Afghanistan to sort out Afghanistan. Interv...See More
Megan S Mills check out what has come of ISAF in AFG. What did venture involve beyond
military op ... you might try to speak with Afghan vets and acquire a somewhat more
complex view of events. Force used by foreigners ....hmmm
1 March 2014 at 02:57 1
"What did venture involve beyond military op"

--> Building girls schools was prime motive and sole intention of US war on Afghanistan,
other "details" doesn't matter
5 March 2014 at 01:47 Like 1
Asad Raheel We have to recognise Afghanistan will not be a perfect place, he (Obama)
said And it is not America's responsibility to make it one. The future of Afghanistan must be
decided by Afghans.
At least 2,181 members of the US military have died during the nearly 13-year Afghan war
and thousands more have been wounded....See More
US to keep 9,800 troops in Afghanistan at year-end
The two-year plan is contingent on the Afghan government signing a bilateral security agreement with the
US.
DAWN.COM|BY AGENCIES
Kishor Shah We have to recognise Afghanistan will not be a perfect place, he (Obama)
said And it is not America's responsibility to make it one. The future of Afghanistan must be
decided by Afghans.
AN EXPENSIVE LESSON LEARNT AT LAST.
28 May 2014 at 12:59 Like 1
Asad Raheel Even if one American soldier is in Afghanistan, it is not acceptable to our
nation and jihad (holy war) will continue against them.
http://www.dawn.com/.../taliban-condemn-us-exit-strategy...
Taliban condemn US exit strategy from Afghanistan
Even if one US soldier is in Afghanistan, it is not acceptable to our nation, a statement from the Afghan
Taliban said.
DAWN.COM|BY BY AFP
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Kishor Shah Vengeance loaded society is serious problem to themselves as well as to

neighbors. The challenge is how to pacify this society and induce them to some productive
activities.
29 May 2014 at 09:01 Like 1
Asad Raheel I have advocated the use of drones against the Taliban since the outset. Only
now the realisation of their utility appears to be forthcoming.
http://www.dawn.com/.../interview-us-drones-are-better...
Interview: US drones are better than PAF jets
Drones are more precise in targeting militants than the jets used by the PAF, which cause heavy collateral
damage.
DAWN.COM|BY MIRZA KHURRAM SHAHZAD
Asad Raheel Aha!! The possibility of DIRECT TALKS between the Taliban & the US, is
once again on the horizon.
"US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Sunday expressed hope that the release of Sergeant
Bowe Bergdahl would lead to direct US talks with the Taliban. In ...See More
Taliban leader Mullah Omar says prisoner swap big victory
A statement named the five as Mohammad Fazl, Norullah Noori, Mohammed Nabi, Khairullah Khairkhwa and
Abdul Haq Wasiq.
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
2 June 2014 at 03:17 Edited Like 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel After a pause of approx 05 months, the drones are now back into action!!
http://www.dawn.com/.../successive-drone-strikes-leave-at...
US drone strike in North Waziristan leaves six dead
Four of them were Uzbeks and two were Punjabi Taliban, said an intelligence official in Miramshah.
DAWN.COM|BY ZAHIR SHAH SHERAZI
Asad Raheel This is called the DIRECT APPROACH LINGO...Frustration leads one to
speak it. Hence COMMENTS by Mr Haroon Choudhry Tajikistan on the subj of DRONES:
"Halt in Drone Attacks did not stop Terrorism. HARAMI Tsunami has always worked as the
B team of TTP b...See More
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Amira Khalil considering this weeks events this may be a good thing!
12 June 2014 at 21:49 Edited Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../al-qaeda-affiliates-threaten-af...

Al Qaeda affiliates threaten Af-Pak region: UN experts
Report to UN Security Council says Uzbek and Pakistan-based militants present a worrying, long-term
security threat.
DAWN.COM|BY AP
Asad Raheel The number of militants killed could be over 100. Security of Islamabad
handed over to the Army.
http://www.dawn.com/.../scores-of-militants-killed-in...
Scores of militants killed in fresh jet bombing in N Waziristan
Targets were the hideouts of Uzbek militants in the Boya tehsil of the agency,...
DAWN.COM
Kishor Shah Joke circulating on net.

Pakistan's national bird is HUNTING DRONE.
15 June 2014 at 19:25 Like 2

Asad Raheel Karachi airport attack cited as last straw that broke the camel's back, but I
wonder if ISIS advance in Iraq also played into thinking to launch Waziristan op now.
http://www.dawn.com/.../pakistan-launches-operation-zarb...
Pakistan launches 'Zarb-e-Azb' military operation in N Waziristan
On directions of govt, Army launches comprehensive operation against local...
DAWN.COM|BY ZAHIR SHAH SHERAZI
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Asad Raheel The Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATAs) or agencies (FATAas) lie in
the hilly/ mountainous border region between Afghanistan & Pakistan. They are seven in no.
Whereas the Taliban are located in many of these areas & the Pak Army combats them, t...See
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Asad Raheel http://www.zemtv.com/.../we-will-burn-islamabad-and.../

We Will Burn Islamabad and Lahore :- TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid
We Will Burn Islamabad and Lahore :- TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid
ZEMTV.COM
Amira Khalil What happened to peace talks, come on give peace a chance Nawaz, why the
recent bombings
17 June 2014 at 03:10 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../operation-zarb-i-azb-interactive-map

Operation Zarb-i-Azb: Interactive map
Keep an eye on all the major action taking place in North Waziristan.
DAWN.COM
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../three-us-troops-military-dog...

Three US troops, military dog killed in Afghan blast
The Taliban claimed responsibility via a text message sent to media organizations.
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
Asad Raheel At the outset, I wud assert that one cannot judge the predicament of Pak by
standards of Westminster grade democracy or Old Bailey grade justice. These institutions in
Pakistan have yet to evolve. Unfortunately, those in power pose that they have evolv...See
More
Asad Raheel Chris Bean, Sen Wsn, Munnum Pirzada, Kishor Shah, Subhash Mansa, Amira
Khalil,Robyn Myers, Eve Simpson
Kishor Shah For long I am carrying an impression that western model of democracy does
not suit countries with dominant Islamic population ( though Turkey is an exception). This is
mainly because of highly authoritative psyche of people who have been ruled by autho...See
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Chris Bean a. I am not privy to the councils of our masters (democratic or otherwise) I
cannot say. Afghanistan has nothing commercially valuable apart from Poppy (Heroin etc.),
so I guess the intention is to try and neutralise ;terrorists and terrorism. Eithe...See More
Asad Raheel The stark message delivered to the people of Pakistan, courtesy the Dharnas (sit
ins) by thousands of protesters at Islamabad, is that the, "Emperor has no clothes". It has
pointed out that those who build temples to democracy cannot survive further wi...See More
8 September 2014 at 22:58 Edited Like 1
Munnum Pirzada beautifully written Asad. but why don't we address the issue of Land
reforms in Pakistan, the abolition of feudalism, the decentralization of power and related
matters. No matter what you do, no matter who you bring to the helm in Pakistan, nothing
wil...See More
Kishor Shah Gen Musharraf, to lead, may be a need of Pakistan but situation is not
conducive.
This means Pakistan has to toss off democracy and lose grants from many countries. This is
not acceptable to Pak military.

Perhaps it is desirable for the general to es...See More
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../afghan-taliban-signal-readiness...

Afghan Taliban signal readiness for peace talks: Pakistani officials
Sources within Afghan Taliban said negotiators would hold the first round of...
DAWN.COM|BY REUTERS | ALI AKBAR
19 February at 14:21 Like Remove Preview
Kishor Shah Peace will be automatic, if meaning living is made possible in the region. For
this world community needs to pump large resources at the bottom of the society in the
region. Pumping of resources at the top is the reason for problem to remain live, as I think.
20 February at 09:21 Like 1
Asad Raheel Spot on, Kishorji!!

20 February at 15:01 Like
Asad Raheel The CHINA Factor

http://www.swissinfo.ch/.../afghans-arrested.../41283952
Afghans arrested Chinese Uighurs to aid Taliban talks bid - officials - SWI
swissinfo.ch
By Hamid Shalizi KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan arrested and handed over...
SWISSINFO.CH|BY SWI SWISSINFO.CH
21 February at 03:45 Like Remove Preview
Chris Bean "this world community needs to pump large resources at the bottom of the
society".
This has to be one of the foundations of a sea change that needs to come, if the planet has any
hope of achieving and sustaining a global equanimity. The benefits would be significant and
profound for everyone. Trickle down has not worked and will never work.
21 February at 03:49 Like 1
Asad Raheel http://www.naharnet.com/.../168384-afghan-president...

Afghan President Salutes Pakistan Peace Efforts
Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Friday saluted neighboring Pakistan's cooperation as Kabul seeks to lay
the groundwork for peace with Taliban...
NAHARNET.COM
21 February at 04:03 Unlike 1 Remove Preview
Asad Raheel http://www.dawn.com/.../fear-stalks-afghan-minorities...
Fear stalks Afghan minorities after rare attacks

Attacks on minority sects raise fears that sectarian unrest could add yet another layer of bloodshed in
Afghanistan.
DAWN.COM|BY AFP
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Asad Raheel https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?

fbid=820806154679645&set=a.426434720783459.1073741825.100002508040284&type=1
Tamina Mirza
shameless creatures the religion kay thekedaarz. .
23 March at 13:41 Unlike 2 Remove Preview
Kishor Shah Civilizations have their own self correcting systems also.
23 March at 14:38 Like 2
Asad Raheel It seems that all parties are now on board ie the Afghan govt, the Afghan
Taleban, the US, China & Pakistan.
http://nation.com.pk/.../general-raheel-sharif-took...
General Raheel Sharif took Americans, Afghans into confidence during peace
talks
KABUL- NBC News, a U.S. media outlet, writes in its report that Taliban...
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Asad Raheel RESPONSE by BRIAN CUFFARI: A response to Asad's series of questions:

Asad Raheel RESPONSE By MEGAN S MILLS: Referring to Asad Raheel's questions:

Asad Raheel RESPONSE By SENTHIL IND: The US invasion of Afghanistan is most

Asad Raheel http://english.aljazeera.net/.../09/201191418433383511.html.

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Earl M Cohen Also, http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/06/05/memo

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Earl M Cohen Megan, please don't be distracted by my last remark in defense of my

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Asad Raheel http://ibnlive.in.com/.../us-threatens-pak.../825624.html.

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Earl M Cohen Megan, ah, I see....Yes, one must filter.

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Asad Raheel COMMENT by Humayun Afghan: He never can. Neither will he do so

Asad Raheel CLIP by Humayun Afghan: A few Facts of the War on

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Asad Raheel Contnd...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZV26aeE1ZU&feature=related

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Asad Raheel Ambassador Khalilzad indeed projects the matter...very well!

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Lola Sovina Bad piece is always better than good war

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Asad Raheel RESOLUTION

Megan S Mills how can PK be taken seriously by Washington?

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Asad Raheel http://www.reuters.com/.../us-usa-pakistan...