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Plaintiff sends the following letter to the Chief of Police of the Southern Regional Police Department:
February 18, 2005
Stan Caterbone
220 Stone Hill Road
Conestoga, PA 17516
Chief John A. Fiorill
Southern Regional Police Department
3284 Main Street
P.O. Box 254
Conestoga, PA 17516
Dear Chief Fiorill:
I am very disappointed in the way that our meeting had ended. I will be filing complaints
With the appropriate authorities concerning the threats and abuse by Officer Busser.
Remember you had requested that meeting. And as you stated, I do not believe anything
that you say, well Sir, that is certainly your choice, however I have never provided
anything but the truth to you or any member of your department.
The burden of proof to my allegations falls within your jurisdiction. If you are telling me
that I have to prove every allegation when I report a crime, I just dont know how that is
possible. But you are the Chief of the department, so I guess I will have to protect my
person and property in any manner that deems appropriate.
I apologize for becoming loud and frustrated, however when you tell me that I am lying
and I am most certainly telling the truth; and then you and Mr. Busser yell that I am nuts
and to get out of here; and that no one will respond to any of my calls to your office,
well we have a very serious problem.
You both have challenged my integrity, my truthfulness, credibility, and my sanity.
And Mr Busser pulling out his night stick and holding it up to hit me, that is more than
enough for me.
I get the picture loud and clear. I hope that you do as well.
Respectfully,
Stan J. Caterbone
Cc: Donald Totaro, Lancaster County District Attorney

Feb 19, 2005

Plaintiff files the following complaint with the The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) after the incident of Kerry
Egan calling 911 to file a false report of plaintiff sending an email stating to kill himself.
Saturday, February 19, 2005
Stan Caterbone
220 Stone Hill Road
Conestoga, 17516
The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) is a partnership between the Federal
Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C).
February 19, 2005 7:26 am
At approximately 5:00 am this morning the Conestoga Police entered my home and
accused me of sending an email to Kerry Egan threatening to kill myself. The officer
verbally and physically abused me because I did not know what he was talking about
and he kept interrogating me and handcuffed me because I said that I was not on
the internet after 10:00 pm on February 18, the evening before.
The officer told me that I sent an email to Kerry Egan and she called 911 at
approximately 5:00 am this morning. I told the officer that I did I fell asleep at

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approximately 1:00 am and did not awake until the officer arrived at my house.
The officer was quite abusive and tried to accuse me of lunging at him, when in fact
he was throwing me around. Pam Pflumm, who previously filed trespass charges against me, and whom I was to have
no contact with, illegally entered my home with the officer, via a key which I
had kept on the deck. Before they entered my home, I called 911 and requested that the Pennsylvania
State Police come to my aid because of the verbal and physical threats that I
received earlier in the day from Officer Busser and Chief of Police Fiorill of the
Southern Regional Police Department. After they had left, I took a shower and almost collapsed from exhaustion and
trauma. I got dressed and went to the emergency room of Regional Hospital, former
Saint Joseph Hospital. Dr. Laird attended to my concerns.
Feb 20, 2005

Plaintiff calls Southern Regional Police Department and Humane League to file formal complaint of Cruelty to Animals.
Both refused to investigate or file any reports. Complaint phoned in to the Humane League on Feb 20, 2005 As
described to a Letter To The Editor, Gil Smart
While I was away for a family emergency, I had someone let my two cats out after being inside for a few days, which I
have always done in the past. I returned after being in South Florida for one week. Upon driving toward my driveway,
my one cat was anxiously awaiting my arriveal. However, my second cat was not there. This was immediate cause for
concern, since being mother and son, they had always stuck together. After a few days I knew that my cat was either
abducted or was harmed. No way would he be around and not come home.
The other evening I went over to my suspect neighbors home, whom I know often has been mischevious toward my
property in the past, and asked him if he saw my cat. He went on to tell me how big my cat is and how he is the "king of
the neighborhood". I found this conversation to be typical bull.... He said "don't worry it will show up soon!"
Last evening I found my dead cat lying by my pond with a possom chewing on its ear. I examined the body and found
that it's neck had been broken with no other signs of any other wounds.
I called the Humane Shelter and talked to a Cruelty Officer who said" There is nothhing we can do if you did not see
anyone physically harm the animal"
Is this the way it is? You have to prove a crime before they will investigate? Sounds alittle backwards to me, but then
again I often forget where I am at.

Feb 21, 2005

Plaintiff sends letter to Fulton Bank regarding the death of Thomas Caterbone and the alleged indiscretions and
illegalities of the activities of Fulton Bank.
Monday, February 21, 2005
Project Hope
Mr. Stan Caterbone
220 Stone Hill Road
Conestoga, PA 17516
Mr. Scott Smith
Fulton Financial Corporation
One Penn Square
P.O. Box 4887
Lancaster, PA 17604
Dear Mr. Smith:
The reason I had called you on Friday morning was to discuss an outstanding issue with you. I am not threatening you
or coming to you as an adversary, but rather just trying to understand how your institution can be so cold and rude to
my family. On Thursday I visited the Manor Branch to discuss the account for Tom's Project Hope, our non-profit
foundation which advocates awareness for suicide prevention, with a focus for teenagers. Of course this foundation was
founded after the suicide of my youngest brother, Tom, in 1996.

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home and their bedroom around 3 a.m. on Sept. 3, 2005.
Saying he was looking for a streaker, Peifer asked the
women to turn around and show him their buttocks, so he could compare it with a suspect
he had seen earlier in the evening, according to the lawsuit filed last month.
Police Chief John D. Rochat, who was also named as a defendant in the lawsuit for
employing the officers, referred all questions to the boroughs solicitor, James Young.
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Young declined comment, saying he would have a response to the allegations in court. J.
Dwight Yoder, the attorney for the women, also could not be reached for comment.

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According to the lawsuit, Skubon and her roommates had fallen asleep around 11:30 p.m.
on Sept. 2, 2005 in a second floor bedroom.
At some point, around 3 a.m., Skubon said she was awakened by a sound and looked
down the stairs to see two uniformed policemen standing inside the doorway.
The men identified themselves as police and ordered Skubon to come down, according to
documents.
But Skubon said she was frightened, according to the lawsuit, and went back to the
bedroom, shut the door and crawled back in bed.

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Within minutes, the officers came upstairs, opened the bedroom door and shone their
flashlights in the womens faces, ordering them into the living room.
Confused and scared, the women complied, according to the lawsuit.
Peifer then told them to get identification, which they did.
Bimler and Klahr are students at Millersville University, according to documents, while
Skubon works as a surgery tech clerk at a local hospital.
When Skubon produced hospital identification instead of a drivers license, she said Peifer
followed her back into her bedroom, accusing her of streaking in the neighborhood.
The policeman pressured her, Skubon claims, saying, Tell me it was you, dont lie to
me. I know it was you, according to the lawsuit.
Skubon responded by saying she didnt know what he was talking about, according to
documents, to which Peifer told her, If you like, I will read you your Miranda rights.
Extremely frightened, Skubon began to cry. Peifer told her to return to the living room
with the other women, checking their drivers license numbers over the police radio.
Then, according to the lawsuit, Peifer asked the women to stand up and turn around so he
could observe their buttocks.
Peifer said he saw a girl outside in a G-string and he thought he would know her from
behind...Peifer then proceeded to observe all three (womens) buttocks and commented
how Skubons shape was different from the others.
Peifer then stated that he was going to check the community pool and if there was any
damage to the pool he would come back and slap handcuffs on Skubon and arrest her.
The policemen then left the womens home. The episode lasted about 45 minutes,
according to the lawsuit.
Court documents offer no explanation as to why the policemen would have allegedly gone
to the womens home or why they entered the residence.
The lawsuit claims the policemen violated the womens civil rights by illegally entering
their home and their bedroom without a search warrant.
The women seek compensatory and punitive damages, as well as attorneys fees and court
costs, for the officers outrageous conduct, which they say left them distressed, scared
and humiliated. They added that they were terrified and felt completely violated.
Peifer, a 26-year veteran of the police department, was named Officer of the Year in
1995. Tatara was recognized in 2004 as one of the countys Top Gun police officers for a
high number of drunken driving arrests.

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ann
02-23-2006

LOL, I wonder if these cops arent a little embarrassed.

eurytopic
02-23-2006

Somewhere, Clancy Wiggum is smiling.

P. Floyd
02-23-2006

QUOTE(eurytopic @ Feb 23 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]169328[/snapback]

Somewhere, Clancy Wiggum is smiling.

your post was funny before i read the article eury, after, it was
hilarious. these guys have the police work that rivals the keystone
kops.

NonaYabiznis
02-23-2006

That's just a bizarre story. What could they have been thinking?

forthepeople
02-23-2006

If the buttocks fits...........you must acquit!!

RonHarper
02-23-2006

Amazing what the cops will do to prove something! It's not like it
was the crime of the century!
rh

littledutchboy
02-23-2006

A "rear end" line up.....


Hay Ron ..... we could be brothers.....?

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runutz
02-23-2006

If you get a butt print, will it hold up in court?

ann
02-23-2006

I am curious, erum..was the observation made with butts


covered or uncovered?

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P. Floyd
02-23-2006

its like ms balbricker in porky's. "it had a mole on it, i'd identify it
anywhere"

Lorax
02-23-2006

It amazes me that gestapo tactics are so funny. The officers


involved in this incident should be fired. This is America isn't it?

jackooboy
02-23-2006

The key to this case will be why the police entered the
house... also, why did the girl who was "scared" go back to bed?! If
she didn't think they truly were the police wouldn't you have called
911 if two strange men were in your house. If you didn't have a
phone on the second floor, you certainly would try to escape and
not go back to bed.
Perhaps it was this woman who was streaking, not like it's that big
of a deal, but her actions do not make sense. Also, for the
humiliation, if the officers made the women strip, yes that's across
the line, but having them line up with their clothes on to see if they
could tell who's butt was the purputrator is not over the line, a little
odd, but not over the line.

cyberscribbler
02-23-2006

Years ago during finals week, the students would relieve tension
with Naked relays down George St. to Biemesderfer Stadium. The
cops must've been pining for the good old days, missed them thar'
streakers.

PedroHead
02-23-2006

Damm, why didn't I ever think of this when in college. Dress up like
a cop and enter women's apartments and do a butt check. Think of
all the *ss I would have seen!

JohnQPublic
02-23-2006

Hmmm, they've got MySpace accounts:


Kendra's MySpace
Dana's MySpace

Misser
02-23-2006

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Millersville Police chief to Officers Seymour and Butz: "Sorry boys,


but the Boro Solicitor says this settlement's coming out of your
paychecks!"

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JohnQPublic
02-23-2006

Looks like Dana's not 21 according to her profile..... shame shame,


at least drink a real beer if you're going to break the law.

MYSTRE2ME
02-23-2006

SHE WAS SO SCARED SHE WENT BACK TO


BED...PLLLEASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEE...WHAT WERE THEY SMOKING
OR DRINKING.....OH POOR, POOR COLLEGE COEDS....MOM AND
DAD'S MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN....

DimBulb
02-23-2006

QUOTE(MYSTRE2ME @ Feb 23 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]169403[/snapback]

SHE WAS SO SCARED SHE WENT BACK TO BED..

If you were her, what do you think you would have done ? Sounds
like they were truly frightened by the po-po.

Mrs. JARiggs
02-23-2006

I think that is a little strange!!!!

betheball
02-23-2006

This is what I'm thinking;


1) College kids tend to do stupid things,
2) College cops tend to catch college kids doing stupid things,
3) Flirtacious College girls stand a better chance of leniency from
College cops,
4) College girls who have who have been let off multiple times by
the same College cop tend to think they can do anything and rely
on their "buddy" to get them out of trouble,
5) College (any) cops tend to have big egos and don't like feeling
disrespected,
6) Disrespected College cops sometimes feel the need to reassert
their authority
7) A familiar College cop face that's already let you get away with
murder over and over again, even at 2:00 am, tends to elicit a
"whatever" response from College girls,
8) See item #5,
9) College cops who think they have the "goods" on College girls
tend to think they can get away with anything because the College
girl doesn't want to get in trouble,
10) College cops didn't anticipate College girls outrage at a forced
burlesque show would hit the papers,
11) Massive smear campaign against College girls will make
headlines in the next few days
Just a theory

BuffaloBill
02-23-2006

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Millersville Borough Police aren't exactly 'campus cops'.

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jackooboy
02-23-2006

My thoughts exactly Buffalo, but nice croutique.

why?
02-23-2006

did anyone notice the poster behind the girls on the left in the
second picture? methinks they may have done some stupid things
after getting the ingredients from that! still-don't go hide in your
bed if you're afraid of the cops. if you're afraid, call the station and
verify that the cops are real. if you're afraid because you may have
done something stupid and don't want to get in trouble for it, tough
noogies. your problem. i don't know about the officers in this case,
though. what really happened? guess we'll find out sooner or later.

BuffaloBill
02-23-2006

I thought I saw Ron Harper in the background of that one pic. Ron
is that you at a kegger?

P. Floyd
02-23-2006

I think dana's myspace account was deleted.


hmmm....underage.....pictures with elicit beverages...big news
story.

betheball
02-23-2006

QUOTE(BuffaloBill @ Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]169477[/snapback]

Millersville Borough Police aren't exactly 'campus cops'.

My apologies, please re-read my post ignoring the word "College"

The_Crow
02-23-2006

QUOTE(why? @ Feb 23 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]169481[/snapback]

did anyone notice the poster behind the girls on the left in the
second picture?

Yeah, I used to own that one.

RonHarper
02-23-2006
QUOTE(BuffaloBill @ Feb 23 2006, 10:21 PM) [snapback]169482[/snapback]

I thought I saw Ron Harper in the background of that one pic. Ron
is that you at a kegger?

When I went to MU for a semester and 1/2 in 1983, I didn't go to


them!
rh

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BuffaloBill
02-23-2006

Must have been the hair!

betheball
02-23-2006

Sweet Jesus, that looks like the chick I woke up next to Sunday
morning, henceforce I shall forever abstain.

crazy nana 6
02-23-2006

I think that this seems a little fishy...

holmer
02-24-2006

Congrat's to all of you.


None of you have the presumption of innocence. None. Which
makes you all look mighty silly and
in fact stupid. Too over the top. Frankly, this is just plain too
ridulous to believe.
An employer guilty for employees?
cs

RonHarper
02-24-2006

QUOTE(holmer @ Feb 24 2006, 04:11 AM) [snapback]169538[/snapback]

Congrat's to all of you.


None of you have the presumption of innocence. None. Which
makes you all look mighty silly and
in fact stupid. Too over the top. Frankly, this is just plain too
ridulous to believe.
An employer guilty for employees?
cs

Actually IMHO it sounds too ridiculous not to be believable. I mean,


why are you going into someone's house without permission? Unless
someone's life is in danger or you are chasing a murder, the 4th
amendment protects you from such "activities" by the police.
Believe it or not, you are not required to open a door to a cop or let
him in - save some life threatening issue - which this was not.
I will tell you right now - a cop better have a real good reason for
pounding on my door at 3 AM. Somebody better be dead or nearly
dead or need some serious help.
As you said though, there is probably more to this story and by the
looks of this thread, it will be interesting. Their attorney is a good
guy BTW.
BTW, I remember getting stopped by a Millersville Cop 20+ years
ago for speeding at 12 pm. He asked if I knew what the speed limit
was - 25 mph - and how fast I was going? "I don't know 45 or 50".
He showed compassion! I was never living there but had nothing
but good experiences with the cops there.

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02-24-2006

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QUOTE(RonHarper @ Feb 24 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]169544[/snapback]

I will tell you right now - a cop better have a real good reason for
pounding on my door at 3 AM. Somebody better be dead or nearly
dead or need some serious help.
And for making me show him my buttocks!

twatson3
02-24-2006

QUOTE(BeingReal @ Feb 24 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]169583[/snapback]

And for making me show him my buttocks!

I don't know about BeingReal but I am pretty sure that the cops
don't want to see Ron's buttocks.

Dogglebee
02-24-2006

I'm just shocked the Millersville cops took time out of their busy
schedules of ticketing MU students' cars for this.

RonHarper
02-24-2006

QUOTE(twatson3 @ Feb 24 2006, 11:17 AM) [snapback]169590[/snapback]

I don't know about BeingReal but I am pretty sure that the cops
don't want to see Ron's buttocks.

You know Tom, that we can agree on!


Can you imagine the poor girl who had commentary on her butt?
It's pretty funny but not if it were my daughter
rh

TwpGuy
02-24-2006

Does anyone know what the cops were thinking? Had they thought
a more serious crime had taken place?
What kind of person flashes someone anyhow....?

crushonyou
02-24-2006

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Jackooboy I have to say I really disagree with you on what you


think is over the line. Police officers, campus or borough are
supposed to be a sign of security not harassment. I think it is very
inappropriate for a male figure of authority to have three young
females stand to "examine" their buttocks whether there was a
streaker or not. I am sure these females were very affected by this
event. I know that if this would have happened to me when I was in
college I would not appreciated an older man looking at my

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buttocks and commenting on it. And furthermore if something


would have happened to these females after this incident, would
they have felt comfortable calling the police for help in any situation
after being violated by them? Good to know that my tax dollars are
paying for old police officers to violate young females trying to get
an education!

Buddy
02-24-2006

I have a question:
It sounds like the police just walked into their home. Are they
allowed to do that?

BeingReal
02-24-2006

QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

Jackooboy I have to say I really disagree with you on what you


think is over the line. Police officers, campus or borough are
supposed to be a sign of security not harassment. I think it is
very inappropriate for a male figure of authority to have three
young females stand to "examine" their buttocks whether there
was a streaker or not. I am sure these females were very affected
by this event. I know that if this would have happened to me
when I was in college I would not appreciated an older man
looking at my buttocks and commenting on it. And furthermore if
something would have happened to these females after this
incident, would they have felt comfortable calling the police for
help in any situation after being violated by them? Good to know
that my tax dollars are paying for old police officers to violate
young females trying to get an education!
I have to agree with the gist of your points. I always thought that
female examinations were to be handled by female cops. Something
about this just doesn't sound right, but I also think we don't have
enough information from this article to really make a full
determination. For example, there doesn't seem to be much
information provided about the alleged streaking incident that
supposedly sparked this situation. Didn't the police officer see the
person's hair color? Was there vandalism involved in the streaking
incident? What made them pick this particular house? Were others
checked as well? Too many unasked questions relate to this article,
which is resulting in a certain amount of speculation.
And, Ron, you can relax because I would pass...I see enough butts
every day during diaper changes!

DimBulb
02-24-2006

QUOTE(TwpGuy @ Feb 24 2006, 10:39 AM) [snapback]169596[/snapback]

What kind of person flashes someone anyhow....?

That stalkerperson that you just put on ignore ?

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02-24-2006

TwpGuy
02-24-2006

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Very good point beingreal it is a lot easier to establish a "streaker"


by other characteristics such as hair color, height, weight etc. Not
just by examining buttocks and commenting on them. It seems
very odd to me that the only way these cops could tell if it was
these girls streaking was by their buttocks. These comments about
"my space" and drinking, lets be real who didn't drink when they
were in college? I know I did.

QUOTE(DimBulb @ Feb 24 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]169605[/snapback]

That stalkerperson that you just put on ignore ?

I actually put him on ignore. The whole stalking thing was a little
creepy.

DavidAKI
02-24-2006

Peifer said he saw a girl outside in a G-string and he thought he


would know her from behind...
There are some holes in this account.
1. Did he radio into dispatch on his eyewitness account?
2. Did he pursue the eyewitnessed streaker like they do in the show
cops.
3. Did he report anything to his command in order to establish a
court order
before entering the apartment? We are talking about college kids,
not Bonnie, and Clyde here.
4. Did the police voice log recorder record the actual event as it was
happenning to cooberate the officers eyewitness account of the
incident that should have been proceeded with an actual pursuit,
and possible arrest.
5. what was the time of the actual occurence claimed vs the time of
visitation to the young ladies apartment?
Many questions not answered. Quite confusing.

Buddy
02-24-2006

Great Questions, DavidAKI

NonaYabiznis
02-24-2006

Perhaps it's a thin technicality, but are you actually streaking if you
are wearing a g-string?

RonHarper
02-24-2006

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QUOTE(NonaYabiznis @ Feb 24 2006, 01:05 PM) [snapback]169619[/snapback]

Perhaps it's a thin technicality, but are you actually streaking if


you are wearing a g-string?

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I think you might have cracked open the plaintiff's case with that
one

BeingReal
02-24-2006

I can tell that these people are going to be the butt of some serious
jokes!

rottiemom
02-24-2006

If I wasn't an MU grad and former Millersville resident (while


attending MU), I'd think this story was absurd. But sadly, I can
easily see the cops behaving like this.
And the girls? tsk. tsk. Back in my day (egads, when did I start
saying that?), myspace didn't exist. But really girls, have some
common sense and delete your accounts before you file a federal
lawsuit.

solitary
02-24-2006

QUOTE(DimBulb @ Feb 23 2006, 07:56 PM) [snapback]169453[/snapback]

If you were her, what do you think you would have done ? Sounds
like they were truly frightened by the po-po.
Run or fight. That's about it. Go back to bed? Only if it was to pick
up the 30-06, a baseball bat or the ever cliched golf club. Maybe a
photo of Micheal Jackson or Smithgall in a swimsuit. That might be
considered unlawful use of lethal force. Either one of those would
probably stop Freddy in his tracks.
QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

Jackooboy I have to say I really disagree with you on what you


think is over the line. Police officers, campus or borough are
supposed to be a sign of security not harassment.
Supposed to be...
QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

I think it is very inappropriate for a male figure of authority to


have three young females stand to "examine" their buttocks
whether there was a streaker or not. I am sure these females
were very affected by this event. I know that if this would have
happened to me when I was in college I got stoI would not
appreciated an older man looking at my buttocks and commenting
on it.
I got stopped for speeding in MI. The female cop had no problem
frisking me. If it was for the fact that I hadn't seen it coming, it
could have been funny. My girlfriend was with me, but I should
have asked the out on a date. She let me go after making me pour
out my beer. My unopened, in the back seat in a cooler beer.
QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

And furthermore if something would have happened to these

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females after this incident, would they have felt comfortable


calling the police for help in any situation after being violated by
them? Good to know that my tax dollars are paying for old police
officers to violate young females trying to get an education!
Unfortunately, I can't say that I'd feel comfortable calling the cops
for any reason. The only reason that I would is because most of the
time you'd spend time in the slammer if you do it yourself.
All in all, the story's too weird to dismiss out of hand. On the
otherhand, it's too weird to just accept straight away either. More
info please. Transcripts of police radio would be a good start, Ron,
can you get those?

JohnQPublic
02-24-2006

QUOTE(rottiemom @ Feb 24 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]169625[/snapback]

And the girls? tsk. tsk. Back in my day (egads, when did I start
saying that?), myspace didn't exist. But really girls, have some
common sense and delete your accounts before you file a federal
lawsuit.

Looks like they did shortly after the addresses were posted. I'm
sure that if they wanted to they could subpoena the old accounts.
There was another photo of Dana holding what looked like a Colt
45, the beer, not the gun. Should have saved all the photos.

solitary
02-24-2006

QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]169633[/snapback]

Looks like they did shortly after the addresses were posted. I'm
sure that if they wanted to they could subpoena the old accounts.
There was another photo of Dana holding what looked like a Colt
45, the beer, not the gun. Should have saved all the photos.
At least you were on top of it, monday morning quarterback.
Myspace, exposing personalities since 1996.
Anyone have a FaceBook account? Any goodies in there?

RonHarper
02-24-2006

QUOTE(solitary @ Feb 24 2006, 01:46 PM) [snapback]169629[/snapback]

Transcripts of police radio would be a good start, Ron, can you get
those?

Not a public record in Pennsylvania. In discover, the girls should be


able to get them.
rottiemom... "in my day" what a hoot!
I have heard good things of the police cheif in Millersville BTW.

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rh

P. Floyd
02-24-2006

QUOTE(solitary @ Feb 24 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]169636[/snapback]

At least you were on top of it, monday morning quarterback.


Myspace, exposing personalities since 1996.
Anyone have a FaceBook account? Any goodies in there?

i believe to look at someone's facebook profile you need to have


gone to that school. that is the way it seems, in facebook you can
only see if someone is a member, to see their profile you have to be
their "friend" or go to their school

twatson3
02-24-2006

As a staunch defender of cops, I really have to wonder what these


guys were thinking. If the facts in the story are correct, these guys
really put cops in a bad light.
Please remember that police misconduct only represents a small
portion of the officers, most of whom are trying to do a good job.

Arby
02-24-2006

Can't wait for the court case. "Do you swear to tell the truth and
nothing BUT the truth?"

JohnQPublic
02-24-2006

Well, I went through my cache and found a few more. I didn't look
at all their pics cause that would be creepy so I don't have all them.

I'll admit I did my fair share of drinking in college, but after the
whole people-identified-as-rioters-on-video thing at Penn State we
didn't take too many photos of parties.

DimBulb
02-24-2006

QUOTE(twatson3 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]169644[/snapback]

As a staunch defender of cops, I really have to wonder what these


guys were thinking. If the facts in the story are correct, these
guys really put cops in a bad light.
Please remember that police misconduct only represents a small
portion of the officers, most of whom are trying to do a good job.

If correct, then it looks like the girls have a strong case. The article

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did not mention the amount of damages being sought in this


Federal case. Maybe they come up with a number at a later date ?

solitary
02-24-2006

QUOTE(P. Floyd @ Feb 24 2006, 01:32 PM) [snapback]169641[/snapback]

i believe to look at someone's facebook profile you need to have


gone to that school. that is the way it seems, in facebook you can
only see if someone is a member, to see their profile you have to
be their "friend" or go to their school
I don't know. I don't have an account, but there's got to be
someone here who does.

QUOTE(twatson3 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]169644[/snapback]

As a staunch defender of cops, I really have to wonder what these


guys were thinking. If the facts in the story are correct, these
guys really put cops in a bad light.
Please remember that police misconduct only represents a small
portion of the officers, most of whom are trying to do a good job.
There are plenty who try to do a good job, but there's far too many
who are just egotistical jackasses. You and I could argue the some,
many, most all day. There's not enough oversight of cops, I don't
think there ever could be enough. I'm not taking sides at this point
in time. I really wish I could say 'A police office would never do...'
but that's not the case.

Hammer
02-24-2006

I don`t know.If I was going to lose my job over looking at a few


butts,I think I would have found some nice butts to look at That`s
as unattractive a bunch of co-eds as I`ve ever seen

lbooth
02-24-2006

Just an observation......
Are you aware that neither Dana nor Kendra are Millersville
students... only one of the girls is a student..soooo I don't
understand why everyone is writing as if they are party girl
students. They were assaulted by a police officer and if they were
drinking the cops would have noticed and something would have
been done about and if they were streaking do you really think they
would have filed a law suit, making it public record so that everyone
could get a hold of it? They would have tried to cover it up and not
make a big deal about - especially so their parents wouldn't find
out. Please ....people are digging way to deep into this.

DimBulb
02-24-2006

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QUOTE(solitary @ Feb 24 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]169658[/snapback]

There's not enough oversight of cops, I don't think there ever


could be enough.

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i think that they should mount cameras on their hats, like some
have mounted in their patrol units. Could be a good source of
revenue. The on-cop-camera video of this episode would have been
great.

JohnQPublic
02-24-2006

Wonder of the streakers knew this guy:


http://www.nbcolympics.com/torinotracker/5131225/detail.html

solitary
02-24-2006

QUOTE(lbooth @ Feb 24 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]169670[/snapback]

Just an observation......
Are you aware that neither Dana nor Kendra are Millersville
students... only one of the girls is a student..soooo I don't
understand why everyone is writing as if they are party girl
students. They were assaulted by a police officer and if they were
drinking the cops would have noticed and something would have
been done about and if they were streaking do you really think
they would have filed a law suit, making it public record so that
everyone could get a hold of it? They would have tried to cover it
up and not make a big deal about - especially so their parents
wouldn't find out. Please ....people are digging way to deep into
this.
Just an observation, if they said the cop slapped them at a drunk
check point, I don't think we'd be digging this deep. Since it's so
bizarre, that's why we're all looking.
As far as the party girl thing, you don't have to go to school to
become a party girl.
Hell, you don't even need two firing brain cells to rub together, look
at Paris Hilton.

MllersvilleAlum
02-24-2006

QUOTE(lbooth @ Feb 24 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]169670[/snapback]

Just an observation......
Are you aware that neither Dana nor Kendra are Millersville
students... only one of the girls is a student..soooo I don't
understand why everyone is writing as if they are party girl
students. They were assaulted by a police officer and if they were
drinking the cops would have noticed and something would have
been done about and if they were streaking do you really think
they would have filed a law suit, making it public record so that
everyone could get a hold of it? They would have tried to cover it
up and not make a big deal about - especially so their parents
wouldn't find out. Please ....people are digging way to deep into
this.

Just because they aren't students doesn't mean anything. I'm a


recent grad (in the last 5 years) and from my experience the kids
who stay around after they graduated, or never attended, are the

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wilder ones who are there just for the college atmosphere of
partying and carrying on. The one guy was on the police force for
26 years and this is his first incident? Please...sounds like someone
literally got caught with their pants down and is now trying to cast a
different light on the situation to save some face.

DimBulb
02-24-2006

QUOTE(MllersvilleAlum @ Feb 24 2006, 03:46 PM)


[snapback]169689[/snapback]

The one guy was on the police force for 26 years and this is his
first incident? Please...

The article did not mention his incident record.

BeingReal
02-24-2006

QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 03:32 PM) [snapback]169682[/snapback]

Wonder of the streakers knew this guy:


http://www.nbcolympics.com/torinotracker/5131225/detail.html
That is just nasty!

DimBulb
02-24-2006

QUOTE(BeingReal @ Feb 24 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]169698[/snapback]

That is just nasty!


What does that guy's MySpace look like ??

massagemama
02-24-2006

QUOTE(BeingReal @ Feb 24 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]169698[/snapback]

That is just nasty!


WHOA.....that's beyond nasty! It will be interesting to find out, {If
we ever will} what really went on.

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crushonyou
02-24-2006

Something tells me this cops incident record isn't very clean. Cops
don't usually start illegally entering people's house after 26 years
on the force. why now? I think this cop has been doing it for a long
time and just has gotten away with it. I admire the females for
standing up for themselves.

crushonyou
02-24-2006

Good point lbooth. Something tells me if you were drinking and or


streaking and the cops were at your house. You would have been in
a lot of trouble especially the girls that are underage. And if these
cops are the type of cops to illegally come into your house
something tells me they wouldn't be letting people off for underage
drinking. Especially the cop with the record for high arrests with
drinking. If the girls were streaking or drinking they would be trying

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to cover it up not file a lawsuit so that everyone would know about


2004-2006
Lancaster
Newspapers
it.
I mean
read these
comments
look at all the accusations they
PO Box 1328, Lancaster PA 17608, (717) 291-8811
have already had to take. People invading their privacy even more,
Terms of Service Privacy Policy
looking up all their photos and accounts online. Something tells me
if you're guilty you would keep quiet about it and just be happy that
you got away with it.

DimBulb
02-24-2006

QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]169648[/snapback]

I'll admit I did my fair share of drinking in college...

http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=13154

andy__1000
02-24-2006

QUOTE(rottiemom @ Feb 24 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]169625[/snapback]

IBut really girls, have some common sense and delete your
accounts before you file a federal lawsuit.

But Mom, it's the internet age!

andy__1000
02-24-2006

QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]169648[/snapback]

Well, I went through my cache and found a few more. I didn't


look at all their pics cause that would be creepy so I don't have all
them.
I'll admit I did my fair share of drinking in college, but after the
whole people-identified-as-rioters-on-video thing at Penn State
we didn't take too many photos of parties.

Curiousity forces me to ask....do you know these girls personally?


Or was it a google search?

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crushonyou
02-24-2006

JohnQPublic why do you have so many pictures? Definitely creepy. I


think these girls should be taking a restraining order out on you.

why?
02-24-2006

i drank in college, and there were some pictures, but who in their
right mind would put the pics online if they were underage? really,
now.

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