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OmNamoBhagwateVasudevaya
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RespectedGurujis,
Guests

IhaveaafewquestionsonCalculationsandafundamentalquestion
onthedasaitself.

Calculation

ForaLagnainanevensignwithoutKetu/SaturninLagna,theorder
ofdasawouldbethedasaofplanetsinKendrasfollowedbydasaof
planetsinPanaparafollowedbydasaofplanetsinApoklima.

Withtheaboveorderestablished,oneisnextfacedwiththetaskof
establishingthestrengthofsignsofaspecificset
(Kendra/PP/Apkl).

IamanalyzingachartthathasVenusinSimhaLagna,Rahuinscorpio
(4),Jupiter(AK)inPisces(8),MarsinAries(9),andKetuinTaurus
(10),Sun,Sat(AyK)(Combust),MercinGemini(11)andMooninCancer
(12).

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IhavecomputedtheorderofdasasasRahu>Ketu>Venus>Merc
>Sun>Saturn>Jupiter>Mars>Moon.

IwouldrequestGurujistoopineonmyrationalebehindthe
computation.

1.TiebetweenRahuandKetu(BothinEvenSigns)astheir
dispositorsareinoddsigns.

RahupipsKetubecauseMarsaspectsScorpioandMarsisindeedRYK
forthischart.

2.VenuscomesthirdasbothVenusanditsDispositorareinsame(
odd)signs.

3.11'thhousescoresoverthe8'thbecauseoftheprescenceof3
planetsintheformer.

4.MercurycomesfirstbecauseofSwakshetrainGemini.

5.SunscoresoverSaturnbecauseoflatter'scombustion.

ThedistanceofMarsfromitsMTsignis0.Doesthe1ruleapply
here?

MoolaDasaperiodforMoonisturningouttobe0.

GeneralQuestions

1.WilltheeffectsoftheplanetsprevailovertheVimosattiri
Dasa/Antardasaplanets?Panditji'sexampleonBhagwanShri
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RamaChandradidseemtosuggestthesameButIcantalkedoutof
this)

2.ShouldinterpretationsbemadeinconjunctionwithD60orisit
D1?

BestRegards,
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DearYogeshandlist,

Ijustthoughtyoumightfindthesetwopostsfromtheexcellent
Narashimhauseful.
Guests

Bestwishes

Kasim

1)

ThebirthdataIhaveforSriAurobindois:

August15,1872
Time:5:19:00
TimeZone:5:53:00(EastofGMT)
Longitude:88E20'00"
Latitude:22N30'00"

D1is:lagna,Mars&JupiterinCnSun,Mercury&VenusinLeKetu
inSc
Saturn&MooninSgRahuinTa.
D60is:lagna&SaturninLiMooninScVenusinCpJupiter&
Rahuin
AqMarsinTaMercuryinCnSun&KetuinLe.

MoolaDasa:

MahaDasas:

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Sun:18720815(05:19:00)18780611(01:43:13)
Mer:18780611(01:43:13)18931219(12:19:50)
Ven:18931219(12:19:50)19110706(18:41:23)
Ket:19110706(18:41:23)19180421(14:21:56)
Rah:19180421(14:21:56)19270113(15:05:11)
Sat:19270113(15:05:11)19430812(03:37:02)
Moo:19430812(03:37:02)19480617(05:52:42)
Jup:19480617(05:52:42)19580302(00:37:18)

Note1:Forcomputationdetails,seemyorSanjay'soldpostsin
archives.
Note2:ThoughSanjaytakesonlylagnaandMoonforstartingdasas,I
take
Suntoo,asadvisedbyVarahamihira,PrithuyasasandKalyanaVerma.
Inthis
case,however,I*suspect*SanjaywillalsonotmindusingSun.

Sundasawasoverwhenhewastooyoung.Mercurydasacamein1878and
lastedtill1893.Mercuryisthe9thand12thlordin10thinD60.
Ifthe
9thand12thlordisin10th,itcangiveactivitiesrelatedto
religion.It
canalsogiveacareerinaforeignland.Asafunctionalbeneficin
10th,
Mercurymayhavegivengivenagoodcareerinpastlife.However,
Mercuryis
inKaraalaDanshtramsa(ademonicbeingwithdreadfulteeth).Asthe
9th
lordinKaralaDanshtramsa,Mercurymayhavemadehimliveabroad.In
Mercury'sMooladasa,itcontinued.From1879to1893,Aurobindo
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livedin
Englandawayfromfamily.Asperhisfather'swishes,hewasbrought
upin
EuropeanculturetotallyunawareofIndiancultureandIndianwayof
life.
Thoughhemastered7foreignlanguages,hecouldnotevenspeakhis
mother
tongueBengaliwell(letaloneSanskrit!).Mercury,whostoodfor
somegood
karmainpastlife(9thlordin10thinD60),madehimshinein
education
andlanguages,buthegavealotofforeigninfluence.Inrasichart
also,
Mercuryis12thlordandshowsbeingawayfrommotherland.

In1893,hecamebacktoIndiaafterfinishingICSandheldseveral
governmentposts.HelearntseveralIndianlanguagesincluding
Sanskrit,got
exposedtoHinduphilosophyandgotintoyoga.Healsogotinto
politicsand
freedomfight.Hewasevenimprisoned.Duringallthistime,Moola
dasaof
Venuswasrunning.InD60,Venusislagnaand8thlordinIndvamsa
(meaning
Moongood).Inpastlife,hestoodforoveralldevelopment(lagna),
findingroots(lagna),yogicsadhana(8th),statusinsociety(Venus
inAL)
andenmities(VenusinA6).Asacontinuationofactivitiesinpast
life,
Venusgavesimilaractivitiesinthislifetoo!

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NextdasaofKetuchangedhislife.Herenouncedhiscareer,politics
and
everythingandmovedtoPondicherryinsouthIndia.Hewentseriously
into
yogaandspiritualmatters.Hewrotealotofexcellentarticles
in"Arya"
magazineandsomesishyasgatheredaroundhim.Whywastheresucha
huge
changeinhislife?It'sbecauseofKetu'sMooladasa.

Ketuisinthe5thhouseinownhouseinrasi.BeinginA9,hecan
givesome
activitiesoforganizedreligion(A9).Beingin5thinScorpio,hecan
directtheintelligence(5th)toprobethehiddenandoccult(Ketu&
Sc).
KetuisinthehouseofgainsinD60withatmakarakaSun.Sunis
clearly
themostoutstandingplanetinhiscase.Heoccupiesmoolatrikonaor
exaltationsignin15outof16divisionalchartsandthatplaceshim
inthe
exceptionallystrongGolokamsa.Itisrarelythatweseepeoplewitha
planetinGolokamsa.WithatmakarakainGolokamsa,hehadavery
advanced
soul.Oursoulshavetogothroughthousandsoflivesandmillionsof
experiencestoreachthatlevelofunionwiththeSupreme.

BeingwithsuchSuninD60,Ketu(significatorofspirituality)
must've
givenalotofspiritualadvancementinpastlife.Moreover,heisin
Kalinaasaamsa(destructionofKaliignoranceandmalice).Ketuin
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excellent
spiritualactivitiesinpastlife.

ItcontinuedinthislifeandtheonsetofKetu'sMooladasatookthis
multifacetedandmyriadmindedgeniusawayfromallthepolitical
activcitiesandintoyogicsadhanaandspirituality.Beinginthe5th
house
inownhouseinrasi,Ketucanalsogivesomepowerandauthority
(related
toreligionofcourse).

NextdasawasofRahu.RahuiswithJupiterin5thinD60.Normally,
this
isconsideredasGuruchandalayoga(i.e.deceivingone'sguru).If
Rakshasa
(demonRahu)iswithJupiter(Guru),doesitonlyneedtothe
deceitof
guru?Can'tthedemonbereformed?InthisD60,Rahuisinownsign
(Aq)
andgivesasraya(residence)toJupiter(Guru).Rahu,likeKetu,isin
Kalinaasamsa.IfRahu,thegiverofKali,himselfissettodestroy
Kali,
whowillgiveignorance?SoRahu,inthisD60,doesNOTdenote
deceivinga
guru,buthemaydenoteofferingresidencetoaveryadvancedand
sweetmanneredguru(JupiterinAmritamsaamritameansnectar)ina
foreignland(Aq&Rahu)andworkingtodestroyignoranceinthis
world
(kalinaasa).SoRahudasacontinuedthesameactivities.Infact,
onereaps
thefruitsofwhatonesowsandAurobindowasblessedinRahudasa
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witha
brilliantsishyawhohelpedhiminhisashramactivities.AFrench
ladyof
Egyptiandescent,cametohiminRahu'sMooladasa,andtookoverthe
ashram
responsibilities.Sheisknownas"theMother".

In1927,Saturn'sMooladasastarted.Withthis,heretiredinto
seclusion
andleftalltheashramresponsibilitiesto"TheMother".Hepursued
yogic
sadhanaincompleteisolationandbecamearguablythemostadvanced
yogiof
thisage.HealsowrotecommentariesonVedasandUpanishats.

Inrasichart,SaturniswithMoonanddenotesrenunciation.InD60,
heis
exaltedinLibralagna,givingSasayoga.Heisinthefavorable
Seetalamsa
(meaningcool).Saturninthepastlifemayhavegivenwanderingand
renunciation.ThatspiritofpositiveSaturncontinuedinthislife
(thanks
alsotoSaturnMooncombinationinrasi)andheretiredfromashram
activities.

Twoconcludingremarks:

(1)IfyoucalculateMooladasacorrectly,oftenMooladasa
transitions
coincidewithphasechangesinlife!
(2)YoumaynotethatI'vebeengivingprominencetoamritamsa,
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kalinaasamsaetcamsasoccupiedbyplanetsinD60.Theyarevitalin
decidingtheresults.Don'tlookonlyattherasisandhouses
occupiedbya
planetinD60,butalsolookattheamsaoccupied.

WehavesuchclassificationnotonlyinD60,butinallvargas!!

Forexample,Dr.B.V.RamanhasSun,MoonandMarstogetherin11th
inD24
(chartoflearning)givingTrilochanayoga(Trilochana=Shiva.This
yoga
makesoneafearlessvictor).Inhiscase,hewasafearless
campaignerof
astrology.Planetsin11thhaveanargalaon8th(occult)and11this
the
4th(learning)from8th.SoSanjaytaughtsometimeagothatplanets
in11th
giveoccultlearningandaspeciallyastrology.However,noteveryone
with
thesameD24wouldbeafearlesscampaignerofatraditional
subject.In
Dr.Raman'scase,allthethreeplanetsgivingTrilochanayogain
11thin
D24areinMitramsa.MitraistheRigvedicdeitywhostoodfor
patience,
traditionandproactivity.HavingJupiterin3rdinParasuRamamsa
alsoled
toproactivewritingandspiritedcampaigningforastrology'scause.

Inallthedivisionalcharts,wehavetolookattheamsaoccupied
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ruler)alongwiththerasiandhouseoccupied.Thenonlywecanhave
an
accuratepicture.However,thisneedsanunderstandingofalotof
Hindu
philosophy.SoIskippeditinmybookentirely.Gaurangaprabhu
wroteafew
thoughtfularticlesonthisissueinJyotishNewslastyear.

MayJupiter'slightshineonus,
Narasimha

2)

Namaste,

Asabreakfromthemanyphilosophicaldiscussionswe'vehadoflate,
Iwanttomakeatechnicalpost.

RasichartwhatphysicallymanifestsinthislifeandD60showswhat
physicallymanifestedinthepastlife.Mooladasashowshowthe
actions(karma)ofpastlifesowseedsforeventsinthislife!

LetustakeJayalalitaJayaram,chiefministerofIndia'sTamilNadu
state.

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February24,1948
Time:14:36:30
TimeZone:5:30:00(EastofGMT)
Longitude:80E18'00"
Latitude:13N05'00"

HerD60isasfollows:Lagna&MarsinSgSuninCpJupiterinAr
RahuinTaMercuryinCnSaturninLeMooninViVenusinLiand
KetuinSc.

MarsinafierylagnainYakshamsashowsanaggressiveand
charismaticleader(Yakshasarecharismaticdemigods).Jupiterin5th
inYakshamsashowsapowerfulandcharismaticperson.Ketuinown
housein12thinPraveenamsa(skillful)showsahighlyspiritualand
meticulousperson.However,Saturnin9thinaninimicalsign(Leo)
inMaayaamsa(illusion)cangiveillusionsandadharma.Sothe
native,thoughspiritual,mayhavefallenintheillusionand
committedactsofadharma.

Thisisasnapshotofwhatmayhavebeenthenative'spastlife.Now,
letususeMooladasatoseehowthepastkarmainfluencesthislife.

MoolaDasa:

MahaDasas:

Sun:19480224(14:36:30)19531220(08:10:38)
Mer:19531220(08:10:38)19630903(16:16:19)
Moo:19630903(16:16:19)19640823(01:03:12)
Mar:19640823(01:03:12)19650812(03:14:54)
Ven:19650812(03:14:54)19770503(10:20:10)
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Jup:19770503(10:20:10)19921110(05:07:46)
Rah:19921110(05:07:46)20000815(00:13:43)
Ket:20000815(00:13:43)20060611(14:21:29)
Sat:20060611(14:21:29)20180301(21:40:43)

VenusisinAmritamsa(amrita=nectar)inmoolatrikonainthe11th
houseofgainsinD60andhasargalaonMoonin10th.Hegives
excellentskillsinrefinedentertainment.Inthislifealso,being
exaltedin10thhouse,heisayogakarakaandyogada.Inhisdasa
during19651977,actingandotheractsofentertainmentmust'vecome
easilytoher.Idon'tknowtheexactperiod,butshewasindeeda
popularactressin60s/70s.

Jupiterin5thinD60showspowerandauthorityinpastlife.In
thislife,heowns10thandoccupiesthe7thhouseofrelations.This
showspowerandassociationwithpowerfulpeople.Sheentered
politics.

Venusisexaltedin10thandheownsGLandHLandaspectslagna.He
givesrajayogas,malavyayogaandalsobecomesamahayogada
(associationwithlagna,GLandHL).Sohisantardasa,whichwasthe
lastinJupiterdasa,madeherthechiefministerofTamilNadustate.

Later,Rahu'sdasacame.Rahuin6thinD60showsvengeance(sp?)
andmanipulationstofightpowerfulenemies.Rahuin6thalsoshows
materialbenefitspossiblyduetoruthlessness.Allthematerial
benefitsofRahuin6thinpastlifetooktheirkarmictollinthis
life.Shemadealotofenemiesandherenemieshadherinatight
spotinRahudasa(19922000).Shelostpowerinthisdasa,alotof
caseswerefiledagainstherforabuseofpower,and,shewaseven
convictedinonecase.
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InAugust2000,Ketudasastarted.ItwilllasttillJune2006(time
ofnextelectionsifhergovernmentlasts5years!).

Inrasichart(ofthislife),KetuisinGLandHLandshowspower
andwealth.InD60ofpastlife,aspointedout,heshowsmeticulous
devotionandstrongspiritualityinown12thhouse.Thefruitsof
thisgoodkarmacanbeenjoyedinthislifeinKetu'sMooladasa.
BeinginGLinrasichart,Ketugavecontroversial(Ketulike!)power
inhisdasa.

SaturnantardasainKetudasawillrunforafewmoremonths.Saturn
in9thinaninimicalsigninMaayaamsainD60showsfallingin
illusionandbreakingdharma(duty/righteousness)inpastlife.Asa
result,sufferingcancomeinthislife.Shehastobecautiousin
Saturnantardasa.Jupiteristhesignificatorofdharmaandhealone
cansaveonefromtheresultsoftheactsofadharmacommittedin
previouslives.Jupiter'saspectonSaturninD60showsthat
remedialmeasurescanwork.Shedonatedababyelephantatafamous
Hindutempleafewdaysbackandthisisanexcellentremedial
measuretoescapetheresultsofSaturn'santardasaasperMoola
dasa.Therewasastrongtalkfromthecentralgovernmentabout
dismissinghergovernment(overthearrestandmanhandlingofformer
chiefministerandtwocentralministers),buttheremedialmeasure
mayjustwork.

However,Saturn's12yeardasawillcomein2006June.Unlessvery
strongremedialmeasuresareundertaken,thenativemaysuffermuch
fortheactsofadharmacommittedinpastlife.

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inone'slife.Mooladasaisimportantinseeingthelinksofthis
life'seventswiththekarma(actions)ofpastlives.IhopeI
inspiresomeofyoutolearnmoreaboutit.

Intradition,thisdasaiskeptsecretbecauseofthepotentialof
misuse.Don'tmisusethisdasatoscareclientsoryouwillrepent.
Asageneralrule,don'tuseD60unlessyouareextremelyconfident
ofthebirthtime.

MayJupiter'slightshineonus,
Narasimha

PS:ThisdasawasNOTcoveredinmybook.

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