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11-03-2009, 11:46 PM
jerryjeff
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1951 HRA barrels
I asked how far back the HRA replacement barrels go and was told that they start in 1-1951. If so,
where are they all? I have 7-51, I've seen 6-51 and 11-51 and thats it.
11-04-2009, 07:26 AM
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I've got an HRA, 5.6 mil with a 4-55 barrel. Anyone got one lower? Anyway, I wasn't sure HRA
ever "replaced" their barrels. They came out after all the fighting so a good many, if not all, never
saw action. So, with that said, why would they replace their barrels? Just wondered.
J.R.
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11-04-2009, 07:33 AM
jaw1947
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I hope they are waiting to be found. Now I have 1 51 stuck in my head along
with LMR.
11-04-2009, 07:42 AM
jaw1947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.2009

I've got an HRA, 5.6 mil with a 4-55 barrel. Anyone got one lower? Anyway, I wasn't sure HRA ever
"replaced" their barrels. They came out after all the fighting so a good many, if not all, never saw
action. So, with that said, why would they replace their barrels? Just wondered.
J.R.
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=1153
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HRA 591041 3-55 RS46

HRA 4762052 5-54 RS32
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Would the barrels have Armory marks if replacement? When are arsenal/armory stamps struck,
when the barrels are screwed on. Sorry if I'm hi-jacking.
Last edited by jaw1947; 11-04-2009 at 12:10 PM. Reason: add pics bar. stamps
11-04-2009, 08:39 AM
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-I've got an HRA, 5.6 mil with a 4-55 barrel. Anyone got one lower?There are tons of barrels in the '54-'55 range. There are '52 here and there,but the '51's just don't
seem to be around.
"Replacement" refers to the barrels that HRA was contracted to make BEFORE they started making
rifles themselves. I'm not real clear on some of this myself- were they making the barrels in
anticipation of manufacturing their own rifles, or were they meant to be used on all
manufacturers? I see '52 HRA barrels on HRA's but don't recall any on other rifles; or I just
haven't been paying attention.
No, I don't think any arsenals stamped barrels,with say, RIA or such when they did rebuilds, but
there are some mysterious little marks fouond sometimes that indicate rebuild.
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11-04-2009, 10:21 AM
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5.626M CMP correct HRA, 10-54 barrel. Peened mark so I assume original?
11-04-2009, 11:11 AM
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1952 HRA bbl
I have a 3.1 Springfield with a HRA 5-52 bbl ...chamber in the white
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11-04-2009, 11:15 AM
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Have an HRA 8-51 Replacement contract barrel

marked on top like this.( first 11are best with my old eyes)G6585448-40 RS1
RIGHT SIDE HRA-8-51 P

its a freash barrel and not on a rifle.
J.P.
11-04-2009, 11:54 AM
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-RIGHT SIDE HRA-8-51 PWell, I guess there are a few out there.
SA with a HRA '52 barrel(in the white) would be a real replacement I guess.
Here's a tidbit: All the HRA barrels I've seen up until 4-52 will be marked like the 8-'51 above.
Then right at 5-52 they went with the new type nomenclature where the information moves to the
side along with the date and a DAS.
"old" style
11-04-2009, 02:33 PM
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I have a post war rebuild late 43 receiver with a like new 3 of 52 HRA barrel. Alot of the early, pre
H&R Rifle contract, barrels were used for rebuilds.
You also find, as per Scott Duff, that starting around the 5.72 range heavy usage of LMR barrels
appears. Also SA and out-of-sync HRA barrels manufactured in late 1951 through mid 1954 were
used during this period. Duff also states that " Near the end of production H&R again began using
barrels contemporary to the period of rifle manufacture."
I am not sure as to the date H&R was awarded the contract to produce barrels but I have not
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heard of any barrels dated prior to 7 of 51. In fact, until reading this post, 8 of 51 was the earliest
HRA barrel I heard of.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.2009

I've got an HRA, 5.6 mil with a 4-55 barrel. Anyone got one lower? Anyway, I wasn't sure HRA ever "replaced"
their barrels. They came out after all the fighting so a good many, if not all, never saw action. So, with that
said, why would they replace their barrels? Just wondered.
J.R.
J.R., It was not the H&R rifles that these early 51 and 52 barrels were being installed as replacements on, it
was the older WW2 era SA's, and Winchesters that had seen a good deal of use and were being rebarreled
during overhaul by U.S. Govt Arsenals. Also keep in mind that HRA, IHC and even Winchester were not in
the business of replacing barrels. Once the manufacture, in this case HRA, delivered the rifles to the U.S.
Govt. the maintainance and repair was no longer a function of the manufacturer. I left out SA as SA, being a
"Govt. Arsenal" did overhaul M1 rifles, regardless of who the original manufacture was.
Hope this helps a bit.
As far as a 5.6 with a HRA barrel dated before 4 of 55, there is a list of HRA serial numbers and barrel dates
on this forum. It shows quite a few rifles in the 5.6 range with barrel dates between 1 of 55 and 3 of 55. Also
alot of LMR barrels within this serial block.
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11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
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I had a 4.2 SA with a 51 HRA barrel on it. It was also a O-66 USMC rebuild. I ended up selling it as i needed
the money. I thought it was kinda odd for a 4.2.
11-04-2009, 03:00 PM
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I have a Sprinfield 1.8 Mil with a HRA 5-52 barrel.
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=1153&page=2
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11-04-2009, 03:21 PM
JoeW2111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Horse

I had a 4.2 SA with a 51 HRA barrel on it. It was also a O-66 USMC rebuild. I ended up selling it as i needed the
money. I thought it was kinda odd for a 4.2.
Could make up a nice story for that rifle if it was an early 4.2 mil. That as a brand new rifle it ended up in
Korea. The SA barrel got damaged. Take your pick, shot off, blown off, bent, whatever you choose. It had a
new 1951 HRA barrel installed at an overseas rebuild facility. The rifle was never issued again so when it hit
Albany Ga. or Barstow Calif. in 1966 the still like new 1951 HRA barrel was not replaced.
Nice to dream isn't it ??
11-04-2009, 04:23 PM
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1.8 Mil Springfield Danish return with an HRA 1-52 barrel.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...-52_barrel.jpg
11-04-2009, 04:34 PM
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-I had a 4.2 SA with a 51 HRA barrel on it. It was also a O-66 USMC rebuildOh boy, woould I kill for something like that. That's almost better than the guy who has the IHC with the
LMR and '65 rebuild to boot.
And I kind of buy JoeW2111's story too!
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11-04-2009, 04:43 PM
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Crazy Horse
Needless to say, i wish i would have hung onto it. But, the bills must get paid. I sold it to a forum member
here, so its floating around here somewhere.
11-05-2009, 08:55 AM
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Unrep7
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How does a 11-53 fit in? I have a HRA D6535448 11-53 RS25 M
ZE
TE high 3 to a 4 MW 2. Thinking about selling it. Bright bore.Just do not need a spare HRA
11-05-2009, 09:06 AM
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I've got a 12-51 HRA barrel on a 405,0xx Springfield. Most likely an HRA replacement on a WWII rifle as
JoeW2111 described.
11-05-2009, 10:21 AM
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Well, I guess they are out there; glad I asked. But so far 6-51 is the earliest that I've seen. No doubt there
are some earlier ones out there too.
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-some can cause incidental confusion if they are installed by default on HRA receivers.Right. A replacement could be misconstrued as an original since they look pretty much alike. This
would be mostlly fifty ones and fifty two's I would guess. And judging from several compilations of
numbers I've looked at they are don't show up much. The HRA's didn't seem to see much use and of
several hundred numbers I've looked at, most have their original barrels. Maybe a half dozen 1952
show up in the middle somewhere.
Then '52 barrels show up a lot towards the very end when the early rejects were utilized. Here is a
snippet of a list of late rifles:
5,780,880
5,781,480
5,781,721
5,781,753
5,782,331
5,783,132
5,784,043
5,784,284
1-52
NuJudge Garand Data HRA 4-52
dingdong CMP HRA
45b20 Garand Data HRA 4-52
shooterm1 Garand Data HRA 2-52
mrhell CMP HRA
camljr59 CMP HRA
1903 2-52 barrel with fingerprints
11-05-2009, 07:30 PM
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I have a HRA 5-51 on a woodless SA that I purchased this year at the SS.
11-07-2009, 07:15 AM
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Here's my 6/51 barrel. I showed a picture of it the other day. It is blued and doesn't have the cut out
for the lower band pin. It came off of a late HRA and was removed by the previous owner before he
realized it was probably correct. My guess is that it is a preproduction item that was used to make
one more rifle.
If someone has a picture of an earlier barrel I'd love to see it.
Thanks, Jim S.
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I have a Sprinfield 1.8 Mil with a HRA 5-52 barrel.

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