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I am talking about the practical impliation of communism in pakistan because history is there to

prove the practice on ideology worng.


The hallmark of some Communist economic policies, collective forming, has sometimes been
called economically inefficient and often disastrous, especially in the cases of the former Soviet
Union, china, and North Korea. They were also the means by which these regimes were able to
pursue famine as a deliberate government policy, for example in the Soviet Union in the early
1930s and in China thirty years later.
[link]http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Collective_farming[/link'

or another WSorld war.....? you want us to suffer this again.


[i]The secret protocol explicitly assumed "territorial and political rearrangements" in the areas of
these countries. Subsequently all the mentioned countries were invaded, occupied or forced to
cede part of their territory by either the Soviet Union, Germany, or both[/i]
[link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact[/link]
or khmer rogue
[i]The Khmer Rouge regime is remembered mainly for the deaths of an estimated 1.7 million
people (from an estimated 1972 population of 7.1 million) under its regime, through execution,
starvation and forced labor. Although directly responsible for the death of about 750,000, the
policies of the Khmer Rouge led, mainly through starvation and displacement, to the death of over
1 million people. In terms of the number of people killed as a proportion of the population of the
country it ruled, it was one of the most lethal regimes of the 20th century.[/i]
[link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge[/link]
Democide being practiced by soviets and chinese commies
[link]http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM[/link]
A system which gave rise to such genocides/democides in history, and completely changed the
course of history with red human blood, you want us to follow or even understand it.U are a
spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt...!
[i]He proclaims himself to be a democratic Socialist,[/link]
As for your reminder that Socialism and Communism are different things, yes, indeed Marx noted
that they were both different stages of History; however, from the economic poin of view, they are
precisely the same thing. And it is in economics that Marx puts most arguments for Communism.
Men, said Marx, are[i] homo economicus[/i]: they behave as per the material means of production
avaliable in any given historical phase. But both Socialism and Communism centralize the
production of goods in the hands of an abstract collective entity. It doesn't matter how you call it:
"dictatorship of the proletariat", "the State", "the Collective"; it's single entity. And it is impossible
to generate wealth with all means of production centralized like that. A sure mark of a fool, you
are now.[:)]
[i]As for Cuba, That is my favorite example[/i]
Let me burst your bubble in ths case too[:)]. but i have included north koea also.
The biggest lie is the "classless society" under Communism.
Forget about the projection of a miraculous society where everyone is a genius and a superman

due to glorious Communism and let's rather check out the requirement to run such a society and
how it was and is organized in reality:
Communist society is the most UNEQUAL ever in the history of humanity; it has generated the
most powerful dictators ever, the worst and most bloodthirsty monsters!
Rather than abolishing classes, it has created a super-class of party officials who have ALL the
rights over the entire rest of society!
[b]To this day, Castro and Kim Il Sung rule as if they were emperors and sole owners of their
respective countries. Both of them are living like billionnaires, using every available resource as
they please, from palaces to yachts, to the most expensive imports and of course any women
they please to rape![/b] Now ANIMAL FORM is quite right, despite ur cries that its wrk of fiction[:p]
remember squealer[:D]
[b]Thousands of Cubans have died in front of Castro's infamous firing squad. There was no
discrimination, as far as the firing squad was concerned. Young and old, black and white, rich and
poor were sent to 'el paredn' (the wall). Many of those who helped Castro gain power, like
Comandantes Ernesto Sori Marin and William Morgan, an American, were among the thousands
who were shot[/b]
[link]http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm[/link]
This has always been so for every single communist dictator, including Stalin and Mao. They
claimed property rights not just to entire countries, but to the corresponding population as well,
shipping people here and there, murdering them at will, forcing them to perform all sorts of labor
on a whim, destroying entire ares, such as when Stalin dried up the Aral sea to create cotton
plantations in Uzbekistan.
Cuba, an ideal communist state,What a silly tomfoolery......[:D]
[i]A book does not MERELY contain information, Pygmalion. A book ALSO contains the biases,
thoughts, opinions, feelings, emotions etc etc of the writer[/i]
Al you had had extracted from your pea brain is called as information if taken neutrally. But its
beyond your comprehension level.Let me put on best Sunday manners for the creature that I
picked out of the mud.[:)]
[i]If you put in biased informations - voila - you get biased thought processes and opinions[/i]
Thats your personal opinion, i Disagree!
[i]What do you mean 'often viewed as'? The guy killed nearly 6 million people man!!!!![/i]
What about the commies buddy[:D] i don't have need to cut paste in italics[:p] as above given
links are enough.
[i]I think its a load of hoey written by a guy with a Superiority Complex to beat all superiority
complexes[/i]
For that, you have to come out of your mental traumatic condtions which makes you believe that
every thing in communism is right and resrt is OUT.We all know it could only be morally
dysfunctional contemplatively challeneged cretin who can hold such biases.
[i]whatever you consider 'sexy' is of absolutely no interest to me.. really.[/i]
that was kind of light remark, but i think your pighead is not able to absorb it, no problem, i am
taking it back[:)]
[i] A few

hundred years ago we, as a species, were under the 'image' that the world was
flat. Was it?[/i]
Wrong analogy, when we didn't know about world, that was lack of science, but
communism's history is very well documented and its present both n bokks and on online,

the practicality of this system has given mankind nothing but blood, wars and femine.

Questions
Actually a couple questions for you.
1:First, under "true communism" is there private property? May seem like a silly question but I just
want to establish your position on that.
2: Second, is your idea of "true communism" voluntary in nature or coercive? In other words if I
don't want to participate and surrender the product of my labor to the collective or whatever group
of people represent the collective are my wishes respected or would the products of my labor be
forcibly taken from me?
[i]Firstly, Communism was NOT rooted out. It was suppressed.[/i]
This is extremely half-wit statement by you, never a system who holds its roots in masses can be
supressed in a way that it looses its existance.So before making a non sensenical statement,
watch your brain,Internet porn causes constipation is not a myth[:p]
http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/museum1.cgi

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