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Our Ref:
D09-PMC-BR-064
Date:
28 January 2015
To:
Bombay Realty
C-1, Wadia International Centre (Bombay Dyeing),
Pandurang Budhkar Marg, Worli,
Mumbai 400 025, India.
Attention:
Project:
Subject:
Dear Sir,
We refer to the MEP Schematic Design submittal as attached. We note some aspects of the
design are subject to input from consultants yet to be appointed. There is a risk of abortive
design work if the current MEP design program is maintained without all other consultant
inputs. However, there is a greater risk (construction delay and/or abortive building work) if
the MEP DD & Tender stages do not continue as per the current program.
Review Meetings were held on 27th and 28th January 2015 at BR office to finalise the review
by B&W and present the outcomes of the review including BR comments made during the
meetings. The matters discussed with the review outcomes are described in the B&W
Review Comments including Executive Summary and Tracker Sheets.
On the basis of the B&W Review Comments, it is hereby recommended that the Owner
accept the submittal with comments and request your kind approval to instruct the
consultant to proceed with the Detail Design stage of the documentation.
Program
Yours Sincerely,
Mark Sperberg
Project Manager
Hill International
Cc :
File
Attachments: Submittal electronic transmission via email on 23/01/15
Submittal transmittal (1 paper copy & CD) delivered to BR office 27/01/15
B&W Review Comments & Tracker Sheets with Review Outcome Notes
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ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
The Per Floor LT. Metering Scheme is finalized as per the discussion had with the Supply Co. Please provide date for release of updated
Hence, Metering at Service flrs option is now ruled-out.
drawings and confirmation that electrical shaft
is adequately sized.
The space available for the L.T. Meters at every floor is also confirmed by the Supply Co.
However, minor modifications are executed within Electrical Shaft to accommodate the
elements.
Ok.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
Comment-4
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Considering the available 'space constraints', this kind of provision is not possible to
provide.
Accordingly, Client is also made aware about this space / design limitation during our last
work-shop had at AHC Office.
As per our regular practice for other on-going projects as well, the given scheme for D.G.
back-up provision works fine with respect to the CFO requirement.
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
FLS alternative route required under
NFPA. Electrical shaft to be increased
to accommodate dedicated shaft for
FLS cabling. Ref 8, item (viii) of CFO
NOC.
BR agreed at workshop 28.01.15 that
shaft would be increased accordingly.
AHC to advise FSI impact.
Further to reconfirm this issue, Liaisoing Agency to address to address the same.
There are no UPS systems shown on the Please refer dwgs no. R-314-ICC-ONE/TWO-EL-152/152A - ELECTRICAL POWER
schematic. The following systems and
DISTRIBUTION, where UPS Feed is considered at MDB-FIRE EMERGENCY.
associated components will require
UPS: Telecoms equipment, CCTV, Access
Control, BMS, Aircraft Warning Lights,
etc. This should be fully detailed at
Schematic Design stage.
Comment-5
Comment-6
Dwgs submitted as SD Stage are mentioned with the sizes of Risers / cable trays etc.
The detailed information about the Tele/data rooms will not cover under our scope of
works, however necessary rooms with suitable sizes are marked as per the general
requirement.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
Comment-7
Comment-8
Comment-9
Comment-10
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Details such as Supply Co. transformers will be available from the respective Supply Co.
Also, these proposed Fire Alarm Control Panel (FACP) for ICC-1 & 2 will have Pier-to-pier
integration feature for the seamless integrations.
However, space provision for the additional Earth Pits is already made in dwgs no. R-314ICC-EL-004 - ELECTRICAL SPACE PLANNING LAYOUT FOR GROUND FLOOR.
As confirmed with major of Product Manufacturers, the maximum loop length of FA system Letter required from proposed fire alarm
can be extended upto 2.5Km. Hence, to have a common FACP for individual tower will
vendor to confirm current design intent is
suffice the system requirement.
acceptable.
Considering this requirement, Bsmt-1 dwgs is already incorporated with additional rooms
provisions for Tele. / Internet / GPON rooms.
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
MEPC now have TATA layout and are to
reflect on DD drawings to ensure space
is adequately sized. Columns
restricting access via roller shutters to
be moved and drawings updated for
DD.
Electrical Calculations
9.1.2
Transformer sizing for apartment loads This will not be accepted to the Supply Company.
to be based on TCL utilising 0.95p.f. and
an overall diversity of 0.8.
Comment-1
Its Supply Co. general practice herein India to derive the Transformer size based on the
Over-all Demand Load but not on the Total Connected Load (TCL). The same concept is
followed herein design.
However the P.F. is already considered is of 0.95 to size the Trafo.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
Comment-3
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Please note, these load figures are just a ball-park figures & can be further fine tunnned
during DD Stage based on the actual load demands. And also can be fitted within the
projected D.G. Sizes.
However, to accommodate such small short-fall, increasing the D.G. Size will not be the
recommended solution (Techno-commercial point of view).
No allowance has been made within the Please refer the Electrical Load Assessment where necessary ventilation load is considered
load assessment for the car park level
for all basements.
jet fans.
Please note, the dia-lux calculation submitted is not for the entire floor plate but for the
specific areas just to give idea about the achieved lux level with designed lighting.
However, to increase the lux level the light fixture will be replace with 2x28w (which is
presently 1x28w).
The calc provided is based on 3 seperate Also its to be noted that the Emergency lighting will be provided for all drive ways / lobby
zones, with a 2.8 ceiling height (to be
areas & will not only for the escape routes. However to trace the escape route, necessary
confirmed).
EXIT signages will be provided separately.
Zone 1 produces an average lux of 5.05
and min of 0.42.
Zone 2 produces an average lux of 7.17
and min of 0.60.
Zone 3 produces an average lux of 15
and min of 0.80.
The general lighting calculation should
be in accordance with CIBSE Lighting
code and EN 12464. The car parks
should be 75 lux average on floor and
300lux on in/out ramps.
Comment-8
No allowance has been made within the Please refer the Electrical Load Assessment where 100Kw load is assumed for such misc.
load assessment for the BMU.
usages.
Comment-6
Comment-7
Final Conclusion
Comment-4
Comment-5
MEPC Comments
Lighting layout is developed as per the NBC Guidelines & accordingly avg. 30lux is required
along the drive-ways / ramps.
As the building is going for Gold rating, its necessary to control the power consumption.
However, as per the requirement to enhance the lux lvl, 1x28w light fixture will be replaced
with 2x28w.
9.1.3
Comment-1
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
Comment-2
Comment-3
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
No symbols have been provided on the As all dwgs elements are labeled precisely, hence no separate Symbols table is mentioned
drawings.
separately.
Dissimilar metals have been proposed
within the earthing schematic generic
drawing namely 50mm x 6mm and
25mm x 6mm GI strip and 2.5mm2 pvc
copper wire. This can provide
installation issues within the installation
as time progresses.
Its not possible to avoid combination of 02 dissimilar metals, as main earthing back-bone is The proposed dissimilar metal strategy is not
of GI. For flat D.B.s either we need to go with Cu. or Al. type cables. However to go with
recommended.
2.5sq.mm. Cu. is more superior option rather to go with Al., considering the Mechanical
withstand capacity of Cu.
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
All parts suitablly labelled - Item
closed.
Verbal confirmation from MEPC
(received 22/01/15) that aluminium
shall be used throughout - sizing of
conductors to be addressed during DD
stage. Cost implication to be presented
as beyond BOQ.
BR agreed with B&W recommendation
at MEP workshop 28.01.15.
Comment-4
Only the main earth system schematic Please re-visit the dwgs, where earthing strategy for all various system is mentioned.
drawing has been provided, none of the
other earthing system requirements
details appear to be available, e.g. clean
earth system, IT system, Lightning
Protection, equipotential bonding.
"For flexible cables, the size of the earthcontinuity conductors should be equal to the
size of the current-carrying conductors and for
metal sheathed, PVC and tough rubber
sheathed cables the sizes of the earthcontinuity conductors shall be in accordance
with relevant Indian Standards".
Comment-5
MEP-EL-SD-SLD-A152 Electrical Power Distribution Schematic for Common Area Loads ICC-One
The drawing is marked as generic only
and lacks detail for schematic design
stage.
9.1.3
Comment-1
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
As clarified earlier, all such details will be furnished during DD Stage during availability of all Calculations required for all main and sub-main
other load details.
cable sizes at schematic design stage.
Basic cable sizing shall be provided to ensure
that the electrical shafts are adequately sized
and we do not feel that this is unreasonable at
this stage of such a project. The comment we
made was Some landlord cables run vertically
for 240m. This may have major issues for cable
runs regarding volt drop - increasing cross
sectional area (cable costs/size) and space
planning of risers needs to be reviewed for
schematic stage. The response we received
was simply ok, which we do not feel is an
unacceptable response or a mechanism to
resolve this issue.
Comment-2
Comment-3
The design of all panel boards under TATA will be governed by TATA.
Comment-4
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Main sub-main cable sizing calculations
required at DD stage to enable B&W to
check that cables are sized accordingly
and sufficient containment provision
has been allowed for within main
building risers. SD package allows for
worst case sizing and some sizes may
reduce subject to detailed assessment
of volt drop based on actual circuit
lenghts.
Comment-5
Comment-6
Cascading / discrimination will required to go with the higher rating (almost double) of
switch-gears & will increased the costing heavily. Client required to take a call on this issue
before to confirm.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
MEPC Reply
Please elaborate which details are lacking within the dwgs.
B&W Response
The drawing is noted as generic only with the
intention to develop the power distribution
strategy.
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Revised drawing addresses issue
- item closed.
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
Comment-5
Circuit Protective Device cascading and Will be taken care by the Electrical Contractor on board during the shop dwg preparations. We expect this to be undertaken as part of the
discrimination study required to confirm
design and not by the Contractor.
acceptable operation of CPDs under
fault conditions.
Further discussions required with B&W, MEPC,
Client team.
No details or space and volume
Please elaborate which details are lacking within the dwgs.
Please refer to comment above:
drawings have been provided for any of
the electrical equipment rooms
MEPC to show generic riser and electrical room
indicated on the drawings.
plans at 1:25 scale to clearly show adequate
space planning of services and coordinated
distribution.
Date for release of drawings required.
Comment-6
Comment-7
Ok.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
Comment-8
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Please confirm that space for required This option is now over-ruled & per floor L.T. Metering option is finalized.
meters (installed at technical floors) has
been coordinated and discussed with
TATA for their approval.
Comment-9
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Updated drawing received - issue
closed.
Electrical Shaft Layout at Service 1, 2 &
3 and Typical Floor and High End
Electrical Equipment Space Planning
Layout at Ground and Basement -1
drawings received as part of revised
schematic design package - further
comments provided under relevant
section below.
9.1.3
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
Since expected set of information need to come from the specialized Vendor & hence will
not be included within the dwgs. Also its required to check whether major products
available in Indian market fulfills this required.
9.1.3
Comment-1
Comment-1
Comment-2
Major cause-n-effect for designed FAPA system will be general & will be as per the
respective CFO NOC requirement, however for for any specific feature / requirement
necessary call will be taken during further stages of the project.
As shown, the Main FACP will be located at Fire Control Room at Grd. Flr. These FACPs will
have further integration facility with Fire Repeater Panel located at main entrance. This
additional set of information will be furnished during further stages of project. However
multiple repeater panels will not be planned, considering the residential project & to
control the costing.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
Comment-4
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
As FAPA system is basically a Vendor driven system, hence we dont have any control to
confirm the nos. of loops & total devices/detectors in every loop, the only thing which we
can do during DD Stage also that we can define the nos. of loops as per the worst case
scenario.
As far as Volt Drop issue is concerned, all the major system manufacturers have feasibility
to exetend the loop upto 2.5Km minimum with any workability issue.
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Loop loading calculations to be
provided for detail design stage.
Drawing states maximum of 125No.
detectors per loop however loops 1-9
appear overloaded.
Note, max no. of devices will reduce
with the introduction of devices with
combined sounder/strobe bases
(where applicable) thus reducing the
maximum no. per loop. Vendor to
confirm loop loadings and information
to be provided during DD stage.
9.1.3
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for Only shaft information is provided which is still
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
to be finalised and shaft size confirmed.
information is expected.
Drawing does not show any containment
routes, electrical services to landlords areas
such as lighting and small power.
Comment-1
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option. The sizes are
referred from the manufacturers catalogues.
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
Services outside of riser to be identified Space planning is elaborated to address this concern. However further detailing will be
including all primary containment
furnished during the DD Stage when further set of information will be available.
routes and service provisions to
individual apartments.
9.1.3
Comment-1
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for Apart from the shafts the drawing has no
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
information.
information is expected.
Where is the primary containment, lighting,
small power, fire alarms etc?
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option (earlier this option is Information is required at schematic design
also presented to Client to demonstrate its COMMERCIAL impact). The sizes are referred
stage to ensure all space and volume prvision is
from the manufacturers catalogues.
acceptable and works prior to commencing
detailed design.
Basic cable sizing shall be provided to ensure
that the electrical shafts are adequately sized
and we do not feel that this is unreasonable at
this stage of such a project. The comment we
made was Some landlord cables run vertically
for 240m. This may have major issues for cable
runs regarding volt drop - increasing cross
sectional area (cable costs/size) and space
planning of risers needs to be reviewed for
schematic stage. The response we received
was simply ok, which we do not feel is an
unacceptable response or a mechanism to
resolve this issue.
Comment-2
Comment-3
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Main sub-main cable sizing calculations
required at DD stage to enable B&W to
check that cables are sized accordingly
and sufficient containment provision
has been allowed for within main
building risers. SD package allows for
worst case sizing and some sizes may
reduce subject to detailed assessment
of volt drop based on actual circuit
lenghts.
Riser layouts need to be updated to
correspond with layout identified on
drawing MEP-EL-SD-DWG-A105.
9.1.3
Comment-1
Comment-2
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for Apart from the shafts the drawing has no
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
information.
information is expected.
Where is the primary containment, lighting,
small power, fire alarms etc?
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option (earlier this option is Information is required at schematic design
also presented to Client to demonstrate its COMMERCIAL impact). The sizes are referred
stage to ensure all space and volume prvision is
from the manufacturers catalogues.
acceptable and works prior to commencing
detailed design.
Basic cable sizing shall be provided to ensure
that the electrical shafts are adequately sized
and we do not feel that this is unreasonable at
this stage of such a project. The comment we
made was Some landlord cables run vertically
for 240m. This may have major issues for cable
runs regarding volt drop - increasing cross
sectional area (cable costs/size) and space
planning of risers needs to be reviewed for
schematic stage. The response we received
was simply ok, which we do not feel is an
unacceptable response or a mechanism to
resolve this issue.
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Comment-3
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Main containment routes identified on
revised drawings. Containment sizing
calcs to be provided at DD stage to
confirm sufficient size of trays.
Main plant equipment added to
drawings. Power supplies to be
identified at DD Stage.
Locations of mechanical control panels
to be identified on the drawings to
ensure sufficient space available.
9.1.3
Comment-1
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for Apart from the shafts the drawing has no
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
information.
information is expected.
Where is the primary containment, lighting,
small power, fire alarms etc?
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option. The sizes are
Information is required at schematic design
referred from the manufacturers catalogues.
stage to ensure all space and volume prvision is
acceptable and works prior to commencing
detailed design.
Basic cable sizing shall be provided to ensure
that the electrical shafts are adequately sized
and we do not feel that this is unreasonable at
this stage of such a project. The comment we
made was Some landlord cables run vertically
for 240m. This may have major issues for cable
runs regarding volt drop - increasing cross
sectional area (cable costs/size) and space
planning of risers needs to be reviewed for
schematic stage. The response we received
was simply ok, which we do not feel is an
unacceptable response or a mechanism to
resolve this issue.
Comment-2
Comment-3
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for No primary containment sizes identified on
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
drawing.
information is expected.
Main secondary containment with sizes to be
shown.
The drawing does not identify any other
electrical services - small power, lighting, fire
alarms etc.
5.1.1
Comment-1
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Primary containment added to
drawings - sizes indicated Containment Calcs required at DD
Stage to confirm suitable sizes.
Other electrical services to be added to
drawing along with main mechanical
plant (Equipment/ducts/pipe routes) to
ensure layouts are co-ordinated across
disciplines.
DB's added to drawing and suitably
referenced - locations of DB's to be
considered, FOH locations not
considered suitable.
MEP equipment to be added to
drawing with associated power
supplies.
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option. The sizes are
referred from the manufacturers catalogues.
Comment-2
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for No primary containment sizes identified on
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
drawing.
information is expected.
Main secondary containment with sizes to be
shown.
The drawing does not identify any other
electrical services - small power, lighting, fire
alarms etc.
5.1.1
Comment-1
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option. The sizes are
referred from the manufacturers catalogues.
Comment-2
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Main sub-main cable sizing calculations
required at DD stage to enable B&W to
check that cables are sized accordingly
and sufficient containment provision
has been allowed for within main
building risers. SD package allows for
worst case sizing and some sizes may
reduce subject to detailed assessment
of volt drop based on actual circuit
lenghts.
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for No primary containment sizes identified on
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
drawing.
information is expected.
Main secondary containment with sizes to be
shown.
The drawing does not identify any other
electrical services - small power, lighting, fire
alarms etc.
5.1.1
Comment-1
Comment-2
How do you propose to get the D.G. sets Please refer the dwgs. no. R-314-ICC-EL-004 - ELECTRICAL SPACE PLANNING LAYOUT FOR
to 1st basement level? Is addition
GROND FLOOR, where Equipment Hatch is shown for the D.G. Sets & other heavy
steelwork/lifting beams required above equipments of Bsmt.1.
access hatch? How are they removed in
future if required?
How are the D.G. sets moved into
position avoiding the structural column
within the D.G. room?
Comment-3
Comment-4
Comment-5
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
All required set of information is furnished to demonstrate the system / explored option for No primary containment sizes identified on
Electrical Shaft space planning point of view. However, please elaborate which other
drawing.
information is expected.
Main secondary containment with sizes to be
shown.
The drawing does not identify any other
electrical services - small power, lighting, fire
alarms etc.
5.1.1
Comment-1
Whilst spaces are identified for various Incoming HT Lines route will be incorporated within the revise dwgs & will issue it shortly.
bits of equipment, there is a lot of detail
missing from the drawing, generally as Substation area for Apt. is marked , however further detailing will be by the respective
follows:
supply co.
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
Exhaust pipe are routed through the shaft & not required any access from HT Panel room.
Also required movement space is available from this shaft , considering all these scenarios
no specific permission required to asked from the TATA.
ok.
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Risers are sized as per the derived rating with telescopic type of option. The sizes are
referred from the manufacturers catalogues.
Comment-7
Comment-8
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
Updated drawing received, please see
additional comments under relevant
section below.
Comment-5
Comment-6
There will not be individual rooms for every transformer, necessary modifications within
the dwgs will be done & resubmit the dwgs.
Point not clear but explanation can be as marked for comment-3 above.
MEP-EL-SD-DWG-101 High End Electrical Equipment Space Planning Layout for Ground and 1st Basement Floor
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
Comment-5
To be addressed at DD Stage
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Comment
Comment-6
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
MEPC Comments
Final Conclusion
To be addressed at DD Stage
MEP-EL-SD-DWG-A105 Electrical Shaft Layout for Service Floors 1, 2 & 3 and Typical Floor for ICC-One
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
Specialist Sub-Contractors to be
appointed to enable sizing of main
distribution routes to be concluded.
Comment-1
To be addressed at DD Stage
To be addressed at DD Stage
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
To be addressed at DD Stage
General Comments from MEP Workshop 27th and 28th January 2015
Comment-1
Comment-2
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
General
5.1.1
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
Item Closed.
5.1.1
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
All the tanks has been detailed out with all the
Access and ladder provision into Fire
sleeves ,maintanance cut out , rungs within the
Water Tanks not identified on drawing.
tanks , same will forwarded for your reference.
Comment-4
Access on ICC1 fire water tank-1 manhole Please ensure sufficient maintenance
still appears difficult due to the position of access is maintained. We will review
the fire pumps. Please review.
again at DD stage.
Item Closed.
Item Closed.
Please provide response.
Awaiting drawing.
5.1.1
Comment-1
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
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Comment
Comment-2
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Noted.
Comment-3
Comment-4
Comment-5
Comment-6
Comment-7
Noted.
Item closed.
No further comment.
Item Closed.
Please review.
Comment-1
Have ventilation shaft positions been co- we have already provided all inputs to the AHC
ordinated with Architectural layout?
team , still this shaft are under review.
Comment-2
Please review.
Item Closed.
This is still not clear on the combined
services drawing. Please position on
separate drawing for review.
Comment-3
Please review.
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
5.1.1
Comment-1
Comment-2
Comment-3
Comment-4
Comment-5
Comment-6
Comment-7
Resending the drawing by high lighting the Noted fire brigade connections now
same for reference.
shown on schmematics.
Please review.
Calculations received.
Item closed.
Item Closed.
Item closed.
Separate drawing now received
showing sectional detail.
Item Closed.
Comment-1
Comment-2
Item closed.
Floor drains now shown.
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
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Comment
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Comment-4
Item Closed.
Comment-5
Please review.
Comment-6
Comment-7
Noted.
Comment-8
5.1.1
Comment-1
Comment-2
Item closed.
We await revised drawings.
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
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Comment
Comment-4
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Comment-5
Comment-1
Noted .
Comment-2
We await response.
Calculations received.
Item closed.
Item closed.
Separate drawing now received
showing sectional detail.
5.1.1
Comment-3
Item closed.
Awaiting revised drawing.
Comment-4
Comment-5
Noted.
Awaiting drawings.
ICC-1&2-MEP-CO-PL-101 MEP Services Layout for Podium Floor - NOTE DRAWING NOW DELETED
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
CO-ORDINATION SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
Section
5.1.1
Comment
MEPC Reply
Comment-1
The car park supply air shafts are not coordinated and clash with areas such as
the swimming pool and changing areas. As we have not yet received the confirmation for
The concern is that this should be
Ventialtion shaft , once AHC confirms the same we
resolved at this stage of the design and will detailed this area with all sections as required.
will potentially significantly impact the
car park ventilation strategy.
Comment-2
B&W Response
Noted.
Awaiting drawings.
Noted.
Comment-3
Awaiting drawings.
Comment-1
Comment-2
No further comments.
Noted.
Item closed.
Noted.
Comment-1
Comment-2
Item closed.
Noted.
Drawing updated.
Comment-1
Item closed.
Comment-2
Noted
No further comments.
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
CO-ORDINATION SCHEMATIC DESIGN STAGE COMMENTS (ICC TOWER One & Two)
Section
Comment
Comment-1
Comment-2
MEPC Reply
B&W Response
Comment-3
Comment-1
Noted.
Item closed.
Comment-2
No further comments.
Comment-1
noted
Item closed.
Comment-2
No further comments.
BR Remarks
MEPC Conclusion
Tucker, William
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Attachments:
I am available tomorrow to discuss any of the attached should you have any queries or comments prior to issuing the
consolidated comments to the Client and Hill International.
Kind regards,
Steven Horn
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28 January 2015
The following brief summary report identifies the MEP items discussed during our workshop in Mumbai on 27th
and 28th January 2015.
Please also refer to the Hill International letter dated 28th January 2015 and supporting documents.
The MEP Schematic Design Package is generally approvable with comments and we recommend that MEPC
proceed to Detailed Design.
Yours sincerely,
Steven Horn
Director
shorn@bw-engineering.com
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The schematic design drawings were reviewed at various stages in accordance with the key
dates at the end of this report. Included at the end of this report is the drawing register of the
latest drawings reviewed by B&W.
In order to fill in the missing parts (Penthouses, Clubhouse, Podium Landscaping, Faade
Lighting and Specialist Consultants) to Schematic Design, appointment of Sub-Consultants is
required refer to information required at end of report.
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CO-ORDINATION
Car park ventilation and shaft co-ordination through podium swimming pool location to be
provided by landscape consultant within 4 weeks and shafts co-ordinated.
Car park headroom and co-ordination of jet fans AHC confirmed achieved 2.35m is acceptable
under local code requirements. This refers to Levels B2 and B3.
Fire shaft locations (basement areas) marked up drawings identifying new locations to be
submitted as part of RFA to B&W and updated during detailed design.
Service floor and access restrictions (Service Floor 1) height restriction of 1m will be difficult to
avoid in isolated areas due to regulatory requirements.
TATA Substation (transformer size, layout, ventilation requirements). MEPC now have TATA
layout and are to reflect on DD drawings to ensure space is adequately sized.
Columns
Generator removal and replacement. AHC to show roller shutters (fire rated) to enable removal
via car park.
Electrical shaft (apartment busbar and metering). MEPC confirmed shaft is approved by TATA
and metering will be shown at DD stage.
MEPC confirmed cables have been identified as worst case and will confirm cable sizing
calculations at DD stage.
Central gas system not included (considered more than 12 months ago). Individual cylinders
currently provided per apartment. Can be considered at Detailed Design stage.
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HVAC
Condensing unit CFD. MEPC have received comments from vendor and are replying. To be
completed at beginning of DD.
Car park CFD. Contractor to try and request vendor to undertake or Client to appoint. This is to
mitigate associated risk with shaft locations prior to them being constructed. Recommended by
B&W.
Fresh air to be treated via connection to back of fan coils units. MEPC to undertake
pyschrometric analysis and ensure fan coil unit cooling coils are sized correctly.
Fresh air provision to bedrooms. Arup faade/acoustic engineer to comment regarding wind
pressure, velocity and potential noise issues. 25% concern with natural ventilation proposal at
higher floors. Solution available should fresh air be provided to bedrooms but will impact ceiling
heights.
The draft CFO NOC with comments by AHC/MEPC/B&W are currently being followed in design.
Note: Those comments (issued 23/01/15) have not been incorporated in the final draft as
informed by BR Regulatory. AHC to submit a list of items that cannot be complied with for BR to
apply for revised NOC.
Pressurisation fan locations and NFPA enclosure requirement. Not a local requirement and
implications to provide.
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Apartment service riser co-ordination. Structural core wall has been modified with recess where
shafts are located.
PLUMBING
Water sample and analysis report. Client to confirm when this will be undertaken.
Letter from STP vendor (connection to kitchen waste) to be provided to confirm if any additional
maintenance or reduced life expectancy anticipated.
Calculations for sizing of pipework (drainage and water services). MEPC to submit at
commencement of DD.
FIRE
All design team comments as issued on draft CFO NOC (23rd January 2015) are currently being
followed and will form part of Detailed Design.
Drencher system to all floors (specified by NOC guidelines but not identified with current NOC).
To be retained but potential to omit in future.
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ELECTRICAL
Maximum demand calculation and transformer sizing. MEPC/BR team confirmed TATA have
approved and it is in accordance with local diversity requirements.
Lighting calculations. To be room specific for all areas and to be provided at DD stage.
Electrical shaft design and sizing. MEPC confirmed shaft is approved by TATA and cable sizing
is based upon worst case.
Busbar MEPC confirmed they will proceed with busbar fully rated across length. Cost
implication to be presented as beyond BOQ.
Earthing MEPC confirmed DD will be based upon one common metal (aluminum). Cost
implication to be presented as beyond BOQ.
FLS alternative route required under NFPA. Electrical shaft to be increased to accommodate.
FSI impact discussed with Client 28.01.15. Ref 8(viii) of CFO NOC.
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MEPC to provide list of information required from specialist Sub-Consultants yet to be appointed
(1-2 weeks (mid-February).
March input from all consultants to be scoped and acknowledged in DD. Sub-Consultant
concept/schematic input to be submitted by end of March (4-8 weeks).
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Project: IslandCityCentre
One&TwoICC
12.01.2015
MEPDESIGNDELIVERABLESCHEDULE(Mechanical,Electrical,Plumbing&FireFighting)
Date
Closed
Description
ConceptDesign
Duration
16thJan2015
SchematicDesign(MEPCEtoBW)
MEPCEtosubmitcompleteMEPSchematicDesignsettoBWincorporatingallBW
commentsreceivedinJan2015.
23rdJan2015
30thJan2015
(MEPCE&BW)tojointlysubmittoBRacompleteMEPSchematicDesignpackagefor
"ApprovaltoproceedtoDD".Submissiontoinclude:
1.CompleteSchematicDrawings
2.Trackersheets(withagreed/openitems)
3.MEPSchematicReport
"ApprovaltoproceedtoDD"fromBR(withcommentsifany).
1week
27thMarch2015
DDwithTechnicalspecifications(MEPCEtoBW)incorporatingabovecommentsbyBR.
8weeks
10thApril2015
CutoffdateforBW'sapprovalonTenderSpecification(withcomments/suggestionsifany). 2weeks
15thApril2015
SubmissionofMEPFTenderDocuments(MEPCEtoAHC,AHCtoHill)
(notincorporatingDDCommentsfromBW).
17thApril2015
DDPeerReview(BWtoMEPCE).
30thApril2015
FinalDDSubmission(MEPCEtoBW)forBWapproval.
2weeks
10
8thMay2015
(MEPCE&BW)tojointlysubmittoBRacompleteMEPDDpackagefor"Approvalto
proceedtoFinalTenderAddendum".Submissiontoinclude:
1.CompleteDDDrawings
2.Trackersheets(withagreed/openitems)
3.MEPReport
1weeks
11
22ndMay2015
"ApprovaltoproceedtoFinalTenderAddendum"fromclient(withcommentsifany).
2week
12
29thMay2015
TenderAddendum01(MEPCEtoAHCandAHCtoHILL)
1week
13
15thJuly2015
CutoffdateforanychangesasresultofTendernegotiations/ValueEngineeringas
suggestedbyvendorsandacceptedbyBR/Hill/MEPCE/BW.Sameshallbesubmittedto
AHC/MEPtoincorporatethechangesinapointwisemanner.
(Thisnextdeliverableshallattractabortiveworkchargesifapplicable).
7weeks
14
15thAug2015
TenderAddendum02
(RevisedTenderdocumentstoenableL&TcommencepreparationofShopDrawings).
4.5weeks
15
DatebyL&T
AppointedSubcontractor'ssubmissionofShopdrawingsforapproval.
16
Approvalofshopdrawingswillbedoneasfollows:
Oneweek(5working Ifdrawingsaresubmittedfloorwise.
days)
Sixweeks
Ifdrawingsaresubmittedaslumpsumfortheproject.
Note:
1
2
Abovescheduleisvalidfordisciplinesof(Mechanical,Electrical,PlumbingandFireFighting)only.
Abovescheduledoesnottakeintoconsideration:
AV/IT
BMS
Waterbodies&Waterfeatures
Landscape/Irrigation
Security
Acoustic
Faade,Landscape&InteriorLighting
PenthouseFloors(alldisciplinesseparateschedulewillbedeveloped.
AnychangesthatmayariseafterreceiptofFinalCFONOC.
ForArchitectHafeezContractor
DRAWING REGISTER
Project : ISLAND CITY CENTRE (ICC)
Job Number : R-314
Discipline : PLUMBING
Date : 27.01.2015
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Date : 27.01.2015
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