You are on page 1of 8

NOYNOY & MAR ON 'GOVERNANCE ECONOMICS 2010-2016': AN INTERVIEW

BENIGNO AQUINO III AUGUSTO STEVE LEGASTO JR., MAR ROXAS


BURNING ISSUES OF Presidential Candidate Ph.D.1 > Vice Presidential Candidate
Philippines 2010 Panel Chairman Philippines 2010
THE DAY Author, A Nation's Blueprint to
True Prosperity: Antidote to
Financial Meltdowns
Hers is better called "economics of Governance relates to decisions that To me, she even fails in Economics
patronage & privilege" where the define expectations, grant power & 101! The 2009 budget deficit has
favored few prospered at the verify performance. Governance already set historic records & 2009 is
expense of the majority. The economics is economics that balances not over yet! Tax collections have
Maguindanao massacre is the wealth with such social & moral fallen over 7% below her own targets
epitome of failed governance. Under concerns as sharing wealth, cultural & even as the economy grew year-on-
her watch the divide between the spiritual wellbeing. How would you year! The numbers of poor people
1. wealthy & the poor widened rate GMA as a "governance have kept growing under her watch.
THE 2009 NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS IN considerably. economist"? We want to put an end to this type
ECONOMICS WENT TO TWO Maguindanao is the poorest of governance. We will rely on the
"GOVERNANCE ECONOMISTS", region in the country. She allowed a power of Science & Technology to
ELINOR OSTROM & OLIVER favored few like the Ampatuans to prosper this nation. This is where we
WILLIAMSON. lord it over Maguindanaoans. And, will tap our tech-savvy youth to play
there are other 'Maguindanaos' a pivotal role in transforming this
around the country just waiting to nation through world-class
explode. governance best practices.
The 1st prerequisite to tackling "Sipag" & "Tiyaga" just won't do,
poverty & corruption is a sincere especially when honesty & integrity
heart. The 2nd is a set of science- fall short.
based solution tools. We intend to
tap the best minds in governance
economics in our administration.

That P230 Bn figure is just for show. The 2009 budget deficit has already I have been a strong believer in the
We uncovered her plan to bloat the reached a historic high of Php266 Bn power of ICT as an engine to bring
next president's budget deficit by as of end Oct. with 2 months to go. prosperity to our country. We have
letting large taxpayers pay their Where will you source funds next have access to the best ICT systems &
2010 taxes this year with large year, if elected, to pursue your partners in the world to enable us to
discounts. We are opposing this. development goals for the country? overhaul our revenue collection
2. Then, if elected, I intend to system, tightly control budget
THE GMA GOVT HAS SET A BUDGET overhaul the entire revenue releases & cash flows & closely
DEFICIT TARGET OF P230 BN FOR collection system to recover the monitor agency performance in using
THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION. MANY hundreds of billions that are owed their budgets to meet their mandated
EXPERTS THINK IT WILL BE MUCH but not being collected. We will use objectives & targets.
HIGHER. THE 2009 DEFICIT IS NOW science & technology, particularly We will ensure the maximum
EXPECTED TO HIT AN ALL-TIME information & communication socio-economic benefits out of every
RECORD OF P320 BN. technology (ICT), to do this & peso spent in pursuit of our
contain the deficit even as we development goals. We cannot do
aggressively pursue our this without computerized systems.
development goals for the nation.
ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS
With the right tools & systems we Which would you prioritize, We know where the poorest, most
can do both, i.e., contain the deficit containing the deficit or pursuing your uneducated, unemployed,
& still pursure our development development agenda with an undernourished are, mostly in places
goals aggressively. The World Bank, aggressive budget? D8 beyond the reach of tele-
et al. estimate revenue opportunity communication, basic utility, road &
losses at about 20% of the annual market networks. The only way we
3. budget or Php300 Bn for 2010. We can facilitate the delivery of quality
THE NEED TO CONTAIN THE know how we will go after that. education, healthcare & both public
DEFICIT SEEMS TO BE AT ODDS Then, we'll attract new funding & private services & benefits to
WITH THE NEED TO AGGRESSIVELY from big foreign investors especially these communities that suffer the
PURSUE DEVELOPMENT in large-scale agro-industrial projects most from the lack of qualified
PROGRAMS TO ALLEVIATE & responsible mining. We will ensure teachers, medical staff, the
POVERTY, HUNGER, ILLITERACY & that Filipinos will get their fair share necessary facilities, job & livelihood
JOBLESSNESS of profits from the resources opportunities is with the use of ICT
extracted or used from their tools, systems & networks.
domains, especially our indigenous Like 27 other developing countries
peoples' (IPs). who are setting up their own
I believe the only hope we have "Integrated Financial and
in bridging the gap between the Management Information Support
'haves' & 'have-nots' & bringing System" (IFMIS) to maximize their
development to the un-served & ability to govern their nation, we will
under-served communities is install one immediately, if elected.
through ICT & the Internet.

The key to success will be the Traditionally, governance in the We will organize local MDCCs to
involvement of the people who are Philippines has followed a "top-down" provide the expertise needed to help
affected and have a vested interest. mode with Malacanang dictating communities do their development
I will break the tradition of dictating priorities, projects, programs & planning & assist in the management
everything from a top-down mode. I activities across the communities & operations of the projects &
4. will fully implement the spirit of the nationwide. How would you go about programs to be executed. MDCCs will
THE THREE 2008 & 2009 Local Government Code of 1991 & implementing these Nobel Prize be largely composed of respected &
ECONOMICS NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS institute a "bottom-up" governance winning governance "best practice" qualified representatives of
ALL FOUND THAT RESOURCES ARE by involving local stakeholders in prescription of a "bottom-up" mode academia, faith-based institutions,
BEST MANAGED BY THE PEOPLE each community's development via of governance? NGOs, government, professionals,
WITHIN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY local "management and entrepreneurs, successful
RATHER THAN BY CENTRAL development coordinating councils" businessmen, financiers & sectoral
GOVERNMENT. (MDCCs) consisting of representative organizations (e.g., of farmers,
individuals from both the public & workers, youth, women, elderly, etc.).
private sector. But, I will set the Our "bottom-up" strategy will begin
national development targets & be with a few pilot communities & make
the one to manage the purse to them attractive models for others to
ensure optimal & equitable emulate.
deployment of funds to local
communities.
ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS
We believe that large enterprises If, as governance economist, Oliver The very requirement that a business
operating at economies of scale Williamson says, large-scale project generate significant positive
generate the biggest positive impact enterprises operating at economies of social impact on the local community
on economic development & are the scale will be the most effective engines itself virtually insures us against the
most efficient in squeezing the most for driving significant growth & entry of whimsical foreign investors.
jobs & income benefits out of every development in the countryside, Furthermore, before they are allowed
5. peso investment. wouldn't reliance on the foreign in they will have to be screened &
THE 2008 & 2009 ECONOMICS But we want to make sure these capital needed for such large accepted by the MDCCs.
NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS ALSO enterprises do benefit the masses, enterprises make the country We will also consider private-
FOUND THAT LARGE PRIVATE-LED we will provide special incentives vulnerable to the whims of foreign public joint ventures using one of our
ENTERPRISES OPERATING AT for "Social Business Enterprises" investors? government-owned-and-controlled
ECONOMIES OF SCALE IMPACT (SBEs). SBEs are large enterprises corporations (GOCCs) to make the
MOST STRONGLY & EFFICIENTLY ON funded & driven by seasoned investment stable. We will also
ECONOMIC GROWTH & NATIONAL companies or businessmen that do require such investments to be big &
PROSPERITY. not focus on profits alone but give worthwhile enough to provide
premium value to the positive social exportable volumes to the Middle
impact of the business to the East & China markets.
community. We will closely monitor
them to ensure the positive social
impact of the projects. Muhammad
Yunus of 'Grameen Banking' is a well-
known advocate of SBEs.

We've seen how ICT boosted With 90 million Filipinos in 1,500 cities We will radically alter the way
participation by average Americans & municipalities, 212 congressional government uses ICT. Primarily
in their 2008 elections & how it districts & 81 provinces across an because application programs, ICT
facilitated rescue efforts during archipelago of disparate, distant hardware & systems tend to become
typhoons "Ondoy" & "Pepeng". ICT islands, how do you intend to rely on obsolete within months, it makes no
6. provides the only means there is to ICT to prosper this nation when the sense for agencies to buy, own,
ICT HAS REVOLUTIONIZED THE WAY bring appropriate development & current penetration rate of the operate & maintain them. Can you
BUSINESS & GOVERNMENT ARE prosperity to the remotest Internet is just a little more than 2%? imagine how costly it is for each
RUN GLOBALLY. AFRICAN communities. We will use programs Wouldn't it cost too much to build the agency to buy the same software &
COUNTRIES ARE USING IT TO like Twitter & Facebook to facilitate necessary ICT infrastructure? licenses, own their own data centers
LEAPFROG INTO PROSPERITY. organizing & mobilization of people. & compete for scarce & expensive ICT
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF Google Wave for real-time on-line talents?
APPLICATIONS IN THE WEB. collaborations. Why buy when we can pass the
NETWORK COSTS HAVE PLUNGED But this cannot be done without a burden of ownership to the private
TO MAKE CONNECTIVITY nationwide connectivity network. sector. The US started this practice in
AFFORDABLE TO THE MASSES. Unlike GMA's attempt to acquire & the 1980s during Reagan's
operate the network infrastructure administration. Except for
via the infamous ZTE-NBN deal, I will transactions that are not extremely
rely on private sector initiatives like sensitive, government stands to save
CBCP World's with their delivery of a lot in costs by outsourcing, rather
Internet service to schools in remote than buying the system to deliver,
coastal & mountainous regions. ICT-based services including cash
My government will seek to work reconciliation, accountability tracking,
synergistically with the private accounting, etc. Operational costs
sector including NGOs, sectoral will surely be lower on top of the
groups, faith-based & academic zero capital expenditure.
institutions, et al. We will use ICT to Government pays per transaction
deliver quality education & just as it does for banking services.
healthcare as well as to spur business
opportunities & jobs creation to the
remotest, most deprived barangays.
ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS
Being in the typhoon belt the Climate change is not a new issue. Back Most everyone else is focused on
Philippines is one of the most in the late 1970s, I was working with a demanding that rich nations fund
vulnerable countries to climate group led by Jay W. Forrester at the climate-change mitigation &
change in the world. We have a Massachusetts Institute of adaptation (M & A) programs. We
coastal length that exceeds even the Technology’s Sloan School of need to focus on our own ‘M & A’
US’ coastal line in kilometers. A small Management in Boston that did programs to make the Philippines a
7. rise in ocean levels will have computer simulation studies that net carbon “sink” or absorber.
CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BECOME A devastating consequences on us. predicted that this climate change Here, the administration is wrong
GLOBAL PRIORITY CONCERN. IF THE I want to make the Philippines a threat would occur within 100 years. in focusing more on the effects of
PHILIPPINES CONTRIBUTES ONLY net “carbon sink” through an These predictions earned them the calamities rather than the causes. The
0.27% OF THE CURRENT GLOBAL aggressive program to promote the label “prophets of doom”. Climate Change Act of 2009 (R.A.
CARBON EMISSIONS WHILE 17 production & use of renewable A mere 30 years later, climate 9729) is too focused on emergency
OTHER COUNTRIES LED BY THE US energy, sustainable reforestration change has become real & has already preparedness, rescue & relief
COLLECTIVELY PRODUCE MORE not only on mountain slopes but began precipitating unprecendented operations, rather than on the more
THAN 80% OF THE GREENHOUSE also of mangroves along the coastal calamities all over the world. What will important pro-active measures that
GASES THAT CAUSE CLIMATE areas, replenishment of coral reefs, you do about climate change? should be taken to reduce our
CHANGE, WHY SHOULD WE WORRY drastic reduction of use of the most carbon emission & increase our
ABOUT REDUCING OUR CARBON carbon-intensive producing capacity to absorb carbon. Our new
EMISSION? technologies such as those that rely administration will focus on reducing
on fossil fuels and coal, reduction of our dependency on fossil oil by
reliance on chemical use especially replacing it with more bio-fuel, solar,
in agriculture & replacing the latter steam, hydroelectric, wind & other
with organic inputs to better protect renewable sources of energy.
our water supply & environment. We will do massive planting also
to mitigate floods & landslides.

Bio-fuels will not only produce less Many experts expect fossil oil prices to In Cairo, Egypt where 18 million live,
greenhouse gases than fossil fuel bust through the $200 mark in a few they have begun transforming organic
but the massive plantations all over years once the global economy starts waste into alternative energy to deal
the country will increase the to heat up. That will have a with the garbage problem & their
country’s greenhouse gas absorptive catastrophic impact on us. What are large carbon footprint. To heat their
capacity. My jobs generation your plans to reduce our dependency water they are relying on solar
8. program will focus on stimulating on Middle East oil? energy. The solar panels allow a
RENEWABLE ENERGY massive agro-industrial operations in What are your renewable energy family of 10 to save around 30
the countryside. Bio-fuel production plans and how would these impact on Egyptian pounds (P250) a month,
will be a major component of this. the country’s development? and biogas trims a further 10 pounds
For the massive crop residues (P85) monthly.
such as rice straw, cane tops & other We will embark on massive
agricultural waste, I will deploy biomass power projects. One project
strategic biomass power plants to can contribute about P200 million in
supply energy needs of local the first year of operation and up to
communities. In the urban areas I P9 billion over 25 years per 17.5 MW
will solve the garbage problem using plant to a local ‘host’ farming
digesters to convert garbage into community. Aside from providing
biogas & where appropriate I will use energy the project will deliver social
such as plasma technology to integration & development through
convert massive volumes of trash the provision of jobs, economic
safely into electric power to help opportunity & socio-economic
solve the perennial urban garbage development. An estimated 900 jobs
dumpsite shortages. will be generated for every 17.5 MW
Finally, given that we are right on project. The project will also deliver
the equator where the sun burns climate change mitigation through
longest, solar energy will be a the disposal of the agricultural waste
priority of mine. I will also explore residues that are currently left in the
the use of wind and sea current field to rot.
power where they are ideal.
ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS
Isn’t it shameful that we are the With so much available land in the We will complement large-scale agro-
largest rice importer in the world countryside, why is there food production with medium- to small-
while hosting the premier rice insecurity in the Philippines? scale food production. We will
research institute in the world, IRRI? I With a population of about 1.4 promote such programs as ‘FAITH’ or
will embark on massive agro- billion and 25% less time to plant ‘Food Always in the House’ so that
industrial production of key food crops why is China’s food security any family with a suitable backyard
commodities especially rice & other status much more stable than ours? will be encouraged to raise the most
agri-products not just to attain food basic vegetables & livestock to
9. security but also to make the supplement their daily household
FOOD SECURITY country a major food exporter to the requirements.
Middle East, China & India. To help combat global warming
The top developed countries were trends further we will encourage
all originally founded on an diversification of production from
agribusiness backbone. Most of the traditional crops like rice & corn to
new millionaires over the last 5 years incorporate a wide variety of
alone in an emergent China are vegetables such as peas, spinach,
agribusinessmen. tomatoes, onions & potatoes.
I want to spur the mobilization of Increasingly, intense rain means
countryside communities like the more flooding. We will then focus on
ARCs or Agrarian Reform more flood-tolerant rice &
Communities into interlocking large- encourage farmers to use "multi-tier
scale business enterprises similar to cropping" where vegetables like
“keiretsus” of Japan & “chaebols” of ‘patola’ are grown on raised
Korea but with strong emphasis on platforms supported by a bamboo
the social benefits they bring to the frame. Once the water-logged soil
people. Without the scale, we cannot drains, farmers can plant ground
achieve food security for Filipinos &, crops under the platforms like
much less likely, become a major vegetables & herbs.
food exporter.
ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS

We will immediately address these The Agri-Agra Law (PD 717) has been Irrigation is a key determinant of
most critical factors constraining our in existence for 24 years. Today, it is agricultural productivity. Despite the
agricultural growth through heavy supposed to be supplying credit to at billions of funding provided under
use of ICT, particularly the Internet > least 12 million farmers & fisherfolks. the AFMA law, the Philippines has
(1) poor access to credit, (2) poor In 2008, the total credit demand for been deficient in upgrading the
irrigation, (3) trading & supply-chain agriculture amounted to P206 billion. number of hectarage covered by
systems that greatly favour Of this amount, only less than one- national irrigation systems.
10. middlemen at the expense of the fourth, was supplied by the banks & Poor transportation systems, the
AGRICULTURE undercapitalized producers, other institutions in the country's lack of power & cold storage
production, marketing & financial sector. Banks have been facilities have also greatly stymied
distribution inefficiences. under-complying with the Agri-Agra efficiency & productivity where
We in Congress have started credit requirements mandated by law. agriproducts get delayed being taken
amending the Agri-Agra law to make What is needed is a network of to &/or being processed at post-
it work better for our 12 million linkages that will connect the source of harvest facilities &/or being delivered
farmers & fisherfolks. We want to deposits in the urban areas to the fresh to their market destinations. As
plug the loopholes that allow banks users of credit in rural areas. Isn’t it in a result, costs go up for consumers &
to use the allocated funds in Land Bank’s mandate to build that losses pile up for the farmers
investments with no connection network of linkages? resulting in fewer farmers planting
whatsoever to agri-agra credits. crops & vegetables.
We do need a Land Bank that is Our administration will invest
more responsive to those who need heavily in mass transportation,
credit the most & more effective in especially railways & RO-ROs,
building the linkages between the communication systems, power &
deposit sources in the urban areas cold storage facilities where critical,
to the credit users in rural areas. In irrigation, training & practical agri-
our administration we will make education.
sure that our national institutions,
especially Land Bank, fulfill their
mandates more successfully,
particularly with respect to PD 717
& R.A. 8435, the Agriculture &
Fisheries Modernization Act (AFMA).
ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS
I voted against the 2009 budget The World Bank et al. estimate the In budget hearings year after year,
measure precisely because of all the rate of corruption in government at we have been appalled at the
loopholes in our financial system that 20%-40% of the government’s cash inability, or even apathy, of
is prone to anomalies. My study flow. That will amount to at least P400 government executives to fix their
shows that: billion under the 2010 GAA Budget, finances to deter anomalies or to
(1) Of the 10,000 or so govt bank after netting our public debt & interest raise their performance levels, e.g.:
accounts & the 10 million cost payments. They say that the (1) The liquid fertilizer scam;
checks actually issued last year public financial system is riddled with (2) Rampant overpricing of DPWH
11. only about 5,000 govt bank loopholes & deficiencies. projects;
GRAFT & CORRUPTION accounts are on our official Government has no system for (3) The 18% conviction rate of the
records with checks issued tracking how funds are disbursed on a Department of Justice’s
numbering about 4 million; per transaction basis. prosecution service as against
(2) The persistence of tax Its revenue collection system is still Japan’s 99.8%;
diversion & evasion cases > very porous. How can it continue to (4) The perennial textbook error
e.g., the P203-million Land depend on the revenue collection issue involving DepEd &
Bank-Binangonan tax diversion reports of its authorized agent banks publishing houses;
caseinvolving fraudulent (AABs) when it does not have the (5) Of the dozens of non-
accounts that a syndicate used personnel nor the system to performing schools, CHED has
to divert the tax money; thoroughly double-check if these AABs managed to close just 1;
(3) Farm-to-market roads disclose ALL their collections or (6) It is still possible for a BIR RDO
constructed in areas with no comply with their authorized ‘float- director to open a revenue
farms with some built near day limits’? collection account with a
beach resorts; How would you effectively manage colluding bank branch manager
(4) Circuitous & unnecessary a country when you are not even sure with him as the sole signatory.
transfers of funds, e.g., the DA how much cash you have exactly on Such cases are only discovered
still transferred a total of any given day? How can you steer the through whistleblowers;
almost P2 billion to the country towards your desired goals & (7) If a bank decides not to report a
National Agribusiness Corp. in targets when you have no system for tax payment, the current system
2008 before the funds’ tracking the impact of each public is unlikely to be able to detect
distribution to regional offices; peso spent on programs, activities & this.
(5) Agency & LGU finance officers projects in pursuit of the During budget hearings, the
collectively hoard tens of administration’s Medium-Term departments & their attached
billions of pesos in any given Philippine Development Plan? Will agencies have not even tried to
year in collusion with bank you adopt such practices as the convince us that they would embark
managers, etc. “Balanced Score Card”(BSC) & “Six on a program to correct these
The greatest part of the annual Sigma” (6σ) to ensure peak problems. In defense of the various
budget deficit is due to the porosity performance from all your agencies, agencies’ budgets, the overwhelming
of our financial system. If elected, my especially your Cabinet members? attitude seemed to be a lack of
first act will be to establish an ICT- desire to address the situation, if not
based comprehensive financial & an active effort to allow it to
management information system continue.
(IFMIS). Can you imagine how a CEO With its manpower & resources,
could do his job effectively if he COA can only audit a small
receives financial & management percentage of agency transactions.
reports months after he needs them, Agency & LGU financial statements
or if he gets them at all? I need these are not submitted until long after the
reports daily, if possible, & on a fiscal year is over.
timely basis so I can exercise We will immediately install an
effective “command-and-control” IFMIS to give us the needed
over the fiscal affairs of this oversight capabilities over all
government? We will track every agencies, LGUs, SUCs & GOCCs. The
peso collected & spent to make sure IFMIS will provide us detailed &
each is precisely accounted for & timely information on revenue
used most effectively towards our collections & funds disbursement by
MTPDP Goals & Objectives. tracking each & every government
Once the IFMIS is in place we can transaction. We will track how funds
then implement such practices as usage impact on agency performance
the BSC & 6σ. so we can better calibrate our
strategies.

ISSUES BENIGNO AQUINO III STEVE LEGASTO MAR ROXAS

In accordance with state-of-the-art How would you use the principles I intend to be a very pro-active vice-
“governance economics”, I believe learned from the 2009 Nobel Prize president &, given the chance, to act
that government cannot go it alone winning “governance economists” in as the chief operating officer (COO)
to prosper this nation for the benefit your administration? on whom corporate CEOs depend to
of all sectors. I will forge the execute the company’s vision,
12. necessary alliances with: mission, goals & objectives.
STRATEGIC GOVERNANCE (1) Faith-based institutions who With my expertise on technology
will not only buttress my & systems, I intend to fully exploit
values transformation thrust the latest technologies, most
but also help to mobilize the especially from the information &
participation of local communication field, to maximize
communities in our the benefits that we can squeeze out
development efforts; of every peso in the government
(2) Academia to provide the budget. Using the Internet we can
technical expertise, feasibility effectively launch a full scale effort
studies & raise the country’s R to develop the country even to the
& D capabilities; remotest corners of the countryside
(3) NGOs to boost the quality & & the under-served urban
our capacity to do the needed communities.
training under new projects &
programs as well as to help
bring benefits deeper into
grassroots communities for
more equitable sharing;
(4) Professionals, especially the
retired, to provide the lifelong-
acquired expertise in
accounting, marketing,
production, human resource &
other management discipline;
(5) Successful entrepreneurs &
businessmen to provide
valuable insights on how to do
business;
Civil society groups, most especially
the youth, to provide the public
support, energy & creativity that will
be needed in our programs to
prosper this nation in accordance
with the principles of genuine
justice, peace, security & happiness.

1
The book’s website is www.prosperitywithdignity.org. Dr. Legasto got his Ph.D. & M.Phil. in Management Science from Columbia University School of Business,
M.A. in Administrative Science from Yale University & A.B. in Mathematics from Ateneo de Manila University. His email address is alegastojr@gmail.com.

You might also like