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The above statement makes several false assumptions. Our belief is NOT
based upon a single text. It is based on a golden thread of truth running
all though the scriptures. It is supported in the New Testament. And yes,
it is important to understand.
The heavenly sanctuary message is all about Christ and His ministry in
the plan of salvation for humanity.
Hebs.8:1,2 "We have such an high priest, who is set on the right
hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the
sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and
not man.
Hebs. 9:15 "For he is the mediator of the new testament"
Romans 5.9-10 Much more then, being now justified by his blood,
we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were
enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son,
much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
On this website you will find many pages showing the vaste Biblical
support for our understanding of Christ's ministry in the heavenly
sanctuary. This page will look at the specific challenges as they are listed
below in black:
Challenge: He must prove that 2,300 evening and morning sacrifices equal
2,300 full days when there is no evidence from Daniel 8:14 -- or any text of
Scripture -- to show it.
Daniel 8.14
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred
evening/mornings; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Now when the question is asked “How long the vision concerning the daily
"tamid" and the transgression of desolation..."?” A meaningful answer MUST
indicate a time period.
The context of the question would infer that the answer be a time unit, not an
activity.
The Bible tells us that evening/mornings are DAYS. Therefore the translation:
8.14
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then
shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Is in agreement with Biblical usage of the term.
EVENING/MORNING = 1 day.
The evening and the morning were the first day
The evening and the morning were the second day
The evening and the morning were the third day
ETC. (Gen. 1)
You will notice that when the Bible uses evening/morning it is speaking of
days.
When the bible speaks of the morning and evening sacrifices it always uses the
REVERSE order. "Morning" first, then "evening". (See: 2 Kings 16:15; 1
Chron. 16:40; 2Chro. 2:4; 13:11; 31:3)
Also please note that the verses speaking of the PRIEST'S CONTINUAL (or
daily tamid) service in the sanctuary itself, IN THE HOLY PLACE, it uses the
term in the same order as Daniel-- evening and morning!
Leveticus 24:3 "In the tabernacle of the congregation, shall Aaron order
it from the evening unto the morning before the LORD continually:"
Ex. 27.21 In the tabernacle of the congregation without the veil, which is
before the testimony, Aaron and his sons shall order it from evening to
morning before the LORD:
That's because Daniel was speaking about the "DAILY" ministry in the holy
place. (not in the courtyard) He used the same terminology as Lev. 24:3.
You see Daniel chapters 9,8,7, give a picture of CHRIST'S ministry for our
salvation.
• Daniel 9 focuses on the "outer court" (this earth) and points to the
sacrifices and "outer court" activities of the sanctuary-- these culminate
in Christ's sacrifice when He came to earth, and when he caused those
sacrifices to cease.
• Daniel 8 focuses on the daily ministry in the holy place, which was
transfered to the heavenly sanctuary when Christ ascended into heaven
and became the High Priest.
• Daniel 7 focuses on the Most Holy, judgement, when the false Christians
(horn) are judged and the saints vindicated.
He must prove that in prophecy a day equals a year, and that an evening and a
morning sacrifice equals one day which he can then turn into one year.
It has already been shown that evening and morning SACRIFICES are
not even mentioned in Daniel chapter 8, the word sacrifices has been
added in later years. Genesis chapter one clearly shows that
evening/mornings are DAYS.
The day for a year principle is clearly established in Daniel nine where
seventy weeks (490 days) equal 490 years, spanning the time from the
restoration of Jerusalem after the Babylonian captivity, to the appearance
of Messiah the Prince.
"How long the vision concerning the daily and the transgression
of desolation...."
refers to the entire vision (hazon). This means that the 2300 (days) or
evening and mornings must start during the rule of the Persian (ram) and
extend through the reign of the Grecian Empire (Goat), it extends
through the four horn powers and on to the career of the little horn, until
we come to the point IN THE TIME OF THE END.
The word "vision" (hazon) occurs three times in the introduction of this
vision .
Remember the question, How long the vision concerning the daily and
the transgression of desolation…the answer, 2300 evening/mornings.
And then…….
The context implies that the period began when the daily sacrifice was
suspended. He must show that it began in 457 BC; a date having nothing to do
with the daily sacrifice.
There is nothing at all about 2300 sacrifices being suspended. The text is
simply giving a length of time pointing to AN END.
Daniel 8 has been tampered with to try to force it to fit the Epiphanies
interpretations, but the original does not support that interpretation.
The vision began with the RAM, the question was “how long the
vision”?
We know of a surety that the MEDIO PERSIAN kingdom, represented
by the ram, was there in 457 B.C.
The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of
Media and Persia. (8.20)
The Ram was in in power in 457 B.C.
He must prove that the "cleansing of the sanctuary" means cleansing it from the
confessed sins of the saints when the context refers to cleansing it from
pollution by the enemy of the saints.
The challenger assumes that only "obviously" wicked people who make
no claim to being "in God's truth", could represent that "little horn".
This is the crucial crux of the issue. The little horn that ends up casting
"THE PLACE of the sanctuary down", and magnifies himself even to the
Prince of Hosts (Christ), has TAKEN OVER-- taken from Christ, the
daily ministry of the heavenly sanctuary. He has set himself up in the
place of God!
In reasoning with the people out of the Scriptures, where in the Scriptures
did Paul find the revelation from which he could tell to the Thessalonians
all this? It was in this eighth chapter of Daniel where the apostle found it,
and from this it was that he told it to them while he was there. For in the
eighth chapter of Daniel are the very expressions which he uses in 2
Thessalonians, of which he says, "Remember ye not, that, when I was yet
with you, I told you these things?" This fixes the time to be after the
apostles' days, when Rome magnified itself "even to the Prince of the
host" and "against the Prince of princes;" and connects it directly with the
falling away, or apostasy, which developed the Papacy, or Rome, in its
latter and ultimate phase.
Now let us read verses 11 and 12 of Daniel 8 and it will be plainly seen
that here is exactly the place where Paul found the scripture from which he
taught the Thessalonians concerning the "man of sin" and the "mystery of
iniquity:" "Yea, he magnified himself even to the Prince of the host, and
by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary
was cast down. And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by
reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it
practiced and prospered."
This plainly points out that which took away the priesthood, the ministry,
and the sanctuary of God and of Christianity.
Let us read it again. "Yea, he [the little horn--the man of sin] magnified
himself even to the Prince of the host ["against the Prince of princes"--
Christ], and by him [the man of sin] the daily sacrifice [the continual
service, the ministry, and the priesthood of Christ] was taken away, and
the place of His sanctuary [the sanctuary of the prince of the host, of the
Prince of princes--Christ] was cast down. And an host was given him [the
man of sin] against the daily sacrifice [against the continual service, of the
ministry of Christ, the Prince of the host] by reason of transgression cast
down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered."
It was "by reason of transgression," that is, by reason of sin, that this
power gained "the host" that was used to cast down the truth to the
ground, to shut away from the church and the world Christ's priesthood,
His ministry, and His sanctuary; and to cast it all down to the ground and
tread it underfoot. It was by reason of transgression that this was
accomplished. Transgression is sin, and this is the consideration and the
revelation upon which the apostle in 2 Thessalonians defines this power as
the "man of sin" and the "mystery of iniquity."
In Daniel 8:11-13; 11:31; and 12:11, it will be noticed that the word
"sacrifice" is in every case supplied. And it is wholly supplied, for in its
place in the original there is no word at all. In the original the only word
that stands in this place is the word tamid, that is here translated "daily."
And in these places the expression "daily" does not refer to the daily
sacrifice any more than it refers to the whole daily ministry or continual
service of the sanctuary, of which the sacrifice was only a part. The word
tamid in itself signifies "continuous or continual," "constant," "stable,"
"sure," "constantly," "evermore." Only such words as these express the
thought of the original word, which, in the text under consideration, is
translated "daily." In Numbers 28 and 29 alone, the word is used
seventeen times, referring to the continual service in the sanctuary.
And it is this continual service of Christ, the true High Priest, "who
continueth ever," and "who is consecrated forevermore" in "an
unchangeable priesthood"--it is this continual service of our great High
Priest, which the man of sin, the Papacy, has taken away. It is the
sanctuary and the true tabernacle in which this true High Priest exercises
His continual ministry that has been cast down by "the transgression of
desolation." It is this ministry and this sanctuary that the "man of sin" has
taken away from the church and shut away from the world and has cast
down to the ground and stamped upon and in place of which it has set up
itself "the abomination that maketh desolate." What the former Rome did
physically to the visible or earthly sanctuary, which was "the figure of the
true" (Dan. 9:26, 27; Matt. 24:15), that the latter Rome has done
spiritually to the invisible or heavenly sanctuary that is in itself the true."
Dan. 11:31; 12:11; 8:11, 13.
In the apostasy, the bishops, presbyters, deacons, and the eucharist were
made to succeed the high priest, priests, Levites and sacrifices of the
Levitical system. Now by every evidence of the Scriptures, it is certain
that, in the order of God it was Christ and His ministry and sanctuary in
heaven and this alone, that in truth was the object of the Levitical system
and that is truly the Christian succession to that system. Therefore when in
and by the apostasy the system of bishops as high priests, presbyters as
priests, deacons as Levites, and the Supper as a sacrifice was insinuated as
the Christian succession to the Levitical system, this of itself was nothing
else than to put this false system of the apostasy in the place of the true,
completely to shut out the true, and finally, to cast it down to the ground
and stamp upon it.
And this is how it is that this great Christian truth of the true
priesthood, ministry, and sanctuary of Christ is not known to the
Christian world today. The "man of sin" has taken it away and
cast it down to the ground and stamped upon it.
A.T. Jones (Consecrated Way)
So yes, this cleansing determines who the REAL followers of God are.
Just like the typical "Day of Atonement" when the sanctuary was
cleansed, those who were not true followers of God were "cut off"
Lev. 23.29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that
same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And Peter writes: 1 Peter 4:17 "judgment must begin at the house
of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them
that obey not the gospel of God? "
He must prove that confessed sins defile the sanctuary; an idea stated nowhere
in Scripture.
Yes, it is. That’s what the whole “day of atonement” is all about!
The Priest “shall take of the blood of the goat and sprinkle it upon
the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat (15) He shall make an
atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the
children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their
sins, and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation. (16)
…And he shall go out to the altar (of incense) that is before the
Lord, and make an atonement for it; and shall take of the blood of
the bullock, and of the blood of the goat, and put it upon the horns
of the altar round about.(18) And he shall sprinkle of the blood
upon it with his finger seven times and cleanse it and hallow it
from the uncleanness of the children of Israel.(19) And when he
has made an end of reconciling the holy place, and the tabernacle
of the congregation and the altar, (20)….
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Yes, it says the tabernacle was to be cleansed because of the
transgression and sins of the people!
On the day of Atonement we see something very different from the daily
rituals. Cleansing occurs for the sinner during the daily rituals, BUT only
on the day of atonement does the sprinkling of blood result in cleansing
for the sanctuary itself, and for the altar and for the people.
Obviously the tabernacle has been defiled by the sins of the people, and
on the day of atonement, the scriptures clearly state an atonement must
be made for the tabernacle itself.
Then notice what happens at the end of the rituals on the day of
atonement. Remember the sacrifice was already made, the priest already
entered the holy and most holy place with the blood, where he makes an
atonement for the holy place, because of the sins of the people, it is when
he returns from making an atonement that he lays both of his hands on
the head of the live goat, and confesses over it all the iniquities of the
children of Israel, and all their transgression in regard to all their sins;
and he shall lay them on the head of the goat" (Lev. 16:21)
Here we see a clear representation of sin being transferred by the laying
on of hands. Where did this sin come from? Was not the sin forgiven at
the sacrifice? Was not the presenting of the blood in the Most Holy Place
enough? Did this not blot out the sins already? Where did these sins
come from which the priest placed upon the head of the scape goat after
making an end of atoning?
Sacrifice is made, the cleansing blood is applied at the mercy seat as well
as at the altar of incense. The sanctuary is cleansed. The priest returns
from the cleansing of the sanctuary "when he has made an end of atoning
for the tabernacle of meeting and the altar" (Lev. 16:20) Then he goes
and places ALL the sins upon the goat who is cast far out, forever
banned. This is the FINAL cleansing in the “salvation year”.
Hebrews 9:22-23
“Almost all things are by the law purged (#2511) with blood; and
without shedding of blood is no remission.
It is therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens
should be purified (#2511)with these: but the heavenly things
themselves with better sacrifices than these.”
Yes, it all fits together. The day of atonement, the cleansing of the
earthly sanctuary occurred at the END of the Jewish salvation year. In
the same way the cleansing of the HEAVENLY sanctuary occurs at the
END of TIME, just prior to the close of earth’s probation.
He must assume the 490 years are cut off from the 2,300 year although nothing
is said of this in Daniel 8 or 9.
Dan. 9.24
Seventy weeks are determined (chathak) upon thy people and upon thy
holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to
make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting
righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the
most Holy.
Seventy weeks, which stretch from Jerusalem’s restoration to Messiah the
Prince, (9:25) are 490 day/years "determined for your people," the Jewish
nation.
The word for “determined” is "chathak" which means to cut off, to sever from,
to amputate.
Cut off from what?
The angel says “understand the vision”.
What vision? No vision is given in Daniel 9, just an explanation.
We know from Daniel’s account in chapter 8 that he did not fully understand
the vision of chapter 8. In chapter nine Daniel is studying and praying. He has
read what Jeremiah says about Israel’s captivity lasting 70 years. He has
obviously grasped the concept that the vision of Daniel 8 covers a very long
period--to the time of the end-- and he is very concerned. He is seeking to
reconcile the two, trying to fit this all together with his understanding of the
restoration of Jerusalem and the temple, both of which lay in total ruins, having
been destroyed by Babylonian armies. This is what Daniel was most concerned
about, how does Israel and Jerusalem fit in with this vision.
Gabriel now explains that Jerusalem will be rebuilt, he only explains the
portion involving the Jews--which is 490 day/years cut off from the time period
given in the previous vision-- the 2300 day/years. Israel was being given a
second chance! They were being gathered back into their land to prepare
themselves for the coming Messiah! But after the 490 years, desolation far
worse than what Epiphanies wrought befalls Jerusalem and the temple, for it
would be destroyed and made desolate. (9:26,27).
For after His ascension he entered the heavenly sanctuary with His own blood
to begin His ministry there.
Daniel 8 speaks of Christ's "daily" ministry and the CLOSING WORK of the
sanctuary in the end of time.
He must assume that the 2,300 years and the 490 years begin together.
The 490 years are clearly stated as beginning with the restoration of
Jerusalem after the Babylonian captivity. It was a Persian king that made
the decree, and 483 years later Messiah the Prince came to earth.
The Vision also begins with the “Rams” rule and goes to the cleansing of
the sanctuary-- 2300 day/years.
He must maintain that the reconsecration of the sanctuary (Daniel 8:14) and the
anointing of the sanctuary (Daniel 9:24) are not the same thing, though they
seem to.
Daniel 7 shows us that after this "judgment" sits, the saints receive their
inheritance, while the false system is destroyed.