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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION/PRIVACY ACTS SECTION

COVER SHEET

SUBJECT: FREDERICK DUOUESNE

SECTION: 4
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T/ITNESS CLASSIFICATION.

1. Immigration and Naturalization^

2. Espionage A c t i v i t i e s - Known or Possible.

J, C. Ellsworth,

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4.. Microphone FSm-voiiiance - (Admissjbility Questionable.)

5. Employment Record.

6. History and Prior Activities.


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This name appears as the operator or sender of


messages from German radio station A 0 5.

(Serial 6309, Page 11)


(Serial 6540, Page 7)
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vHTNESS CLASSIFICATION

Immigration and N a t u r a l i z a t i o n

Espionage A c t i v i t i e s (Known or P o s s i b l e )

Tvllliam Go Sebold

3. Surveillance (Corroborative or D i r e c t 3vidence)

Microphone S u r v e i l l a n c e (AdTqiibility Questionable)

Employment Record

6. H i s t o r y arxi P r i o r Acti-gities
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This man has not been identified as yet.

December On December 30, 194-0, WAALEN in conversation rrith


30, 1940. SEBOID stated there is a German he has heard about -who
is trying to get rid of some inventions ; that this
man Trent to the German Consul but the Consul would not
deal with him.
SEBOID told W.AALEN to send him up to see him, in
case he saw hijn again.

January 8, Again on January 8, 1941, WAALEN stated to SEBOLD


1941. that he had learned that the fellow who had the inventions
had been to see the German Consul again. This time he met
with some kind of success because the German Consul told
him not to tell anyone about the things he had. WAALEN
said he learned this through a friend who lives in the
Bronx and has a bakery on Long Island.
May 5, On May 5, 1941, WAALSN stated tha^theGerman inventor
1941. "who went to the German Consul is n a m e d J d d f b u t he did
not know how he could be reached.
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WITNESS CLASSIFICATION.
TSGHIRA.

1. Immigration and Naturalization.

2. Espionage Activities - Knoim or Possible.

William Sebold.

3 Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4. 1.aerophone Surveillance - (Adraissibility Questionable.)

5. Employment Record.

6. History and Prior Activities.


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Re; HANS TSCHIRA

Address: Unknown

MAX BUNK on March 2 1 , 1941 at the office of


WILLIAM SEBOLD, advised t h a t he had been in the spy busi-
ness since 1936 j t h a t he was introduced11 to HWS TSCHJJlA,
Chief Photographer on the S.S. "Bremen , with whom he
d e a l t . No further information has been received regard-
ing this individual to t h i s d a t e .

S. 6788 p.2
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WITNESS CLASSIFICATION.

VON ESSENHAHDT.

lo Immigration and Naturalization.

Clerk, U S Bist. Court, E. Div. of New York.


Clerk, U. S. Dist. Court, S. Div. of New York.
Byron H. Uhl, Ellis Island, New York.

2 Espionage Activities - Knovm or Possible.

William Sebold,
J. C. Ellsworth,

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4. Microphone Surveillance - (Admissibility Questionable.)

5. Employment Record.

6. History and Prior Activities


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EE: BARON JOHN KEINZ YJN EYSSENHARDT


vrvbh aliases: Baron Von Eyssenhardt,
John ""ilh^'lm Heinrich Eyssenhsrdt, John
heinz Eyssenhardt, Baron J. E. Von
Eyssenhardt, Y/ilhelm Eyssenhsrdt, Ijaron
John H. Vcn Eyssenhardt.

Address: Hotel Fourteen


14 E, 60th c:;t.
"lew York City

According to the records oi hne Immigration and Natural-


isation Service, 641 hashinrton Street, hew York City, VON YY'SSENHAEDT
was born on '."ay lu, 1T96 at Berlin, Germany, he came to the United
States from Berlin, arriving on the SS Paris at the port of Yew York
en June 10, 1926. He filed his declaration of Intention to become a
Citizen on October 20, 1926 in the United States District Court for
the Eastern District of New York. He was naturalized on November 14,
1932 and received Certificate of Naturalisation #3613736. VON
CTSSENHAEDT has no visible means of support. He ic married to the
Krom whom
he is presently estranged. He has divorced two former rives. VST'^
LYSSSJHARDT and his wife were in Europe when the present war began
arid apparently returned to the United States about November 1939.

VON EYSSEYhARlYP is a subject in the present investigatioh due to the


following circumstances.

(Serial 4431, Page 23)

vember 21. 1940 About II /;; on November 21, 194-J, German rsdio message #62 vras'
received, it reaehs as follows:

"First. Kecessary to find one man in South, and one in North


who are also willing to ~ut up radios. No Germans. Second.
For ]Xmn - Tr\r to hire the f o i l o ^ s a i d to be O.K.
Baroness Rene ^ucovich divorced^^^^^^^^Bnow married to Italian

Baron Von Essenhardt, former German air officer, and Fred


Freutaenstein, German Brazilian, known sportsman. Latter two in
J:.Y. telephone'; bookv Expect early report." ...._.

(Serial Z0/+6, Page 11)'


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'ovember 22, 1940 At a meeting between SEBOLD and DTQUBSNS a t about 5:15 P.M.
SEBOLD handed DIXJUESNE radio message #62 s e t out above.
SEBOLD said he suggested to Dl^UESIIE t h a t DUQUSSNE should
immediately c o n t a c t t h e t h r e e i n d i v i d u a l s named i n radio
message number 62 as t h e other side expected a Prompt r e p l y .
SEBOLD said DIX;UES1;E s a i d h would do t h i s .

( S e r i a l 4065, Pares 4 , 5 , 7 )

ceva 11 1940 At a meeting between SEBOLD and DUQUESEB a t about 5:25 P.M.
on t h i s d a t e , SEBOLB s t a t e d t h a t he asked DUQUESKE i f h e ,
DUQUBSxJE had ;nade t h e new c o n t a c t s as requested by t h e
German a u t h o r i t i e s . DUQUESIvE said he had made a l o t of
i n v e s t i g a t i o n and did n o t t h i n k i t worth while t o c o n t a c t
these p e o p l e . SEBOLB t h e n t o l d DTJC; TISSUE t h a t t h e German
a u t h o r i t e s had asked him t o c o n t a c t t h e s e people. DUQ.USSITE
said he would t r y to c o n t a c t them i n the near f u t u r e .

( S e r i a l 4S83, rages 6 , 8 )

anuar 1941 DU-JT^i'E n e t SEBOLD on t h i s d a t e a t t h e Van Axen r e s t a u r a n t


on Gold S t r e e t . 3B30LD said he a-rain asked i f BUQUESrJE had
contacted t h e t h r e e i n d i v i d u a l s he had been i n s t r u c t e d to
c o n t a c t . DUQUESI.E said he had n o t ; t h a t he was a f r a i d he
would lead the FBI onto t h e s e p e o p l e . DUQUESK3 did not
d e f i n i t e l y i n d i c a t e he would c o n t a c t t h e s e people, BAROUESS
BUCOVICH, BAPON VOH ESSEttHATlDT and KPJJTZEKSTEIN.

( S e r i a l 4983, Fgs 10,11)

arch 20, 1941 idvised A C - E l T T ^ H I t h a t s h o r t l y


a f t e r t h e outbreak of t h e p r e s e n t war i n Europe, she and
B ^ B B M B F V0H_EYS^ENlii2T^__were_crossing from Holland.
T hro u g^^^^BBBH^^^BBHI^^^^^^^^^^BBBMMm
^^^^^^^^^^^ ja attached to the German Consulate
y on
one occasion the
dinner ^ i ^ H H s ^ Luc how's Restaurant in
H.Y.C. and U . d v i s e d her that the German Espionage
system wante euucated people "who were not too attached to
any count and that the JHfl^H^would be a good spy. The
f-that she was not interested. The
Lso stated that shortlvafterBHBHBBattempted
to persuade her to_.become a.-spy, flUH^^^^HH^BAHON,.
asked her for $500, telling her tli^^^^^^^^Btedasked hiifl
for this amount. VON EYSSENIIARDT H R H B H s f t h a t if he
did not contribute this sum he would/Be"in the good graces
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of the Kazi party.

(Serial 6172, pages, 1,2)

To date, no proof of espionage a c t i v i t i e s on


the part of VON EYSSENEARDT has been developed.

The following is a description of

BAR OH JOKK HEI1IZ VON SYSSENTIAFDTj

Name JOHN HEINZ VON EYSSEHHARDT, with aliases


Baron Von Eyssenhardt, John liilhelm He inrich
Eyssenhardt, John Heinz Eyssenhardt, Baron
J. K. Von Eyssenhardt, VJilhelm Eyssenhardt,
Baron John II. Von Eyssenhardt.
Ajre 45. (Born May 10, 1893 at Berlin, Germany.)
Height o'
Weight 200 pounds (approximately)
Bui 16 Stocky, athletic.
Eyes Grey
Complexion Fair
Hair Chestni
l.Iarital Status
Education Unknoivn - Appears to be well educated.
Occupation None apparent f\
Peculiarities Described as typical, heel clicking, arrogan
Prussian.
Relatives F a t h e r , FREDRICK EYSSELfHAEDT, 21 K a i s e r d a a ,
Berlin, Germany.

rhotograph 1S32 Photograph in file.


Nationality American, naturalized ll/l4/32
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YCTNSSS CLASSIFICATION.

VON GONTAHD.

1. Iraniigration and N a t u r a l i z a t i o n .

i - Cleri^U^S^^UCourt, St. Louis, Missouri,


OK (HHHHHHHHsmHr^ ass P or 't' Division.

2. Espionage A c t i v i t i e s - Knofm or P o s s i b l e .

William Sebold,
J . C. Ellsworth,

3. S u r v e i l l a n c e s - Corroborative o r D i r e c t Evidence.

4. Microphone S u r v e i l l a n c e - ( A d m i s s i b i l i t y Questionable.)

5. Employment Hecord.

6. History and Prior Activities.


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ADALBERT VON GONTAHD


With a l i a s e s Ed Von Gontardj Edi Gontard
Addressi Denny Road, S t . L o u i s , M o . ,
Occupation: V i c e - P r e s i d e n t and Chief E n g i n e e r ,
Anheuaer-Busoh Brewery, S t . L o u i s , M i s s o u r i

This i n d i v i d u a l was b o m J u l y 2 0 , 1900 i n Hagen,


Yfestfahlea, Germany, and came t o t h e United S t a t e s from Bremen,
Germany, a r r i v i n g a t t h e p o r t of Hobokea, K. J . , March 3 1 9 2 3 , on
the S. S. Washington. He f i l e d his declaration of intention to be-
come a c i t i z e n on February 7 192J+, and -was granted Jtonerioan o i t i -
zenship on September 7, 1928, Certificate of Natural!nation # 2 8
016, a t S t . Louis, Missouri.

VON GONTARD, in addition to his position as given above, I


is a Director of the S t . Louis, Missouri Chamber of Commerce. He i s
well off financially and owns a large horae on Denny Road, St. Louis,
Missouri. His mother i s a daughter of Adolphua Busch, one of the
founders of Anheuser-Busch. He has two sons, bom in 1925. and 1926.
He i s said to have a p i l o t s license and to have been a flyer in the
German army during the l a s t war.

VON GONTARD became connected with this case in the


following manner:

November 27, 191+0 Radio message #6U receired from Germany contained
the following: "Try to approach Ed. Von Gontard,
Vice-President of Annaheuser-Busch, St. Louis,
friend of General Udet. Greeting framj////BtKKK
Gontard said to be very pro-German. We have had
i i o c o n t a o J ^ r i t h h L n ^ F o r your information J ^ M B
f m H H H ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ H m i F Present address Lisbon,

Hoveuber 30, I9U0 The following l e t t e r was typed up by Special Agent


J . C. Ellsworth on WILLIM SEBOLD'S t y p e w r i t e r and
was signed and mailed by WILLIAM SEBOLD on t h e same
day.

"New York City


November 3 0 , I9I4.O

Mr. Ed. Von Gontard


Vice President, Annaaeuser-Busch Co.
St. Louis, Mo. _ . . , . . . _ . .
Dear Mr. Gontard: .. . .

I have been in contact with sane of your acquaintances and


particularly bring you greeting f r x4alHH|flHF D y u expect to be
in the vicinity of New York in the near future so that we could meet
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in person and talk over our acquaintances?


They suggested t h a t I should communicate with you
so that i f your are interested in assisting i n t h e i r a c t i v i t i e s ,
we can get together. If you are interested, write me oare of Post
Office Box 67, Madison Square Station, New York City*
Cordially yours,
/ s / Harry Sawyer "
No reply t o ; t h i s l e t t e r has ever been received.

January 5 Radio message jj=13O sent to Germany as follows:


"I wrote to Von Gontard but have not yet received
a reply. What further action shall I take? Shall
I write him again?"
March 3 . 19Ul Eadio message #107 received from Germany was as
follows: BHave you heard anything yet from Edi
Gontard? Gave you name some time ago together with
others."
T?adio message $200 sent to Germany was as follows:
"Your message one naught seven. Please see message
one five naught. I have not yet heard from Gontard
Shall I w r ^ e a g a i n or see him. I sent l e t t e r s with
Kno ^@MIHHF
April 5, 19I4I Radio message #122 from Germany contained the
following sentences: "Twenty to twenty-two received.
Concerning G-ontard, wait for our message."

The f i r s t sentence refers '/O l e t t e r s transmitted to Germany by Sebold,


one of which concerns Sebold's efforts to contact Von Gontard.
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FRIEIBICH KARL VON SCHIERUGG
with aliases:
Carl Schlebrugge
Freiherr Von Schlebrugge
Frederich Karl Von Schlebrugger
Baron Schlebrugger
Friedrich Karl Von Schlebruegge
Karl Frederick Von Schlebruegge
F. Karl
Sr. Frederick Karl
J. F. Karl
Address: Calle Vallarta #I4-B, Mexico City

This man has been carried as the principal subjectin


a German espionage case entitled, "FRIEDRICH FARL VON SCHLEBRUGGE,
with aliases Et Al - Espionage G". Information developed in that
case indicates that he is one of the most active, and possibly the
chief of the Marine Division of the German Espionage system operat-
ing in Mexico.
He resides at the above address, and makes frequent and
extended trips along Gulf coasts of Mexico in the states of Campeche,
Yucatan, and Qvintanaroo, also in the states of Mazatlan and Manzanillo
on the West Coast.
He resided at apartment 3&A Donato Guerra St. #14 Mexico
City until recent^y^rhenheiiiojre^toCa^T^J^^^^^^J^-j^which is also
the a.ddrcssm|H|mmi^||Hl^^^mi^mHHIv 'When
staying in Vera Cruz, Mexico, he usually stays at the Hotel Colon.
FRIEDRICH KARL VON SCHLEBRUGGE is 52 years old, and was born in
Germany. It is believed he first came to Mexico in 1938, and return-
ed to Germany in June of the same year. It is alleged that he has
made several trips to the United States in his automobile and was
reported to have been in New York City during the Fall of 1939, after
the declaration of war In Europe and at the approximate time the S S.
"Bremen" made its return dash to Germany. He debarked from the S. S.
"Kamakura*1 at San Francisco, California on February 9, 1940, and is
stated to have entered Mexico during the same month, at Nogales.
FRIEBRICH KARL VON SCHLEBRUGGE in the past has received
mail through Apartado (Post Office Box) 1498, Mexico, D.F. and more
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recently information has been furnished which indicated that he also


receives mail through Apartado 1006, Mexico, D.F. under the name J. F. KARL,
FREDERICK KARL, and F. KARL.

On March 25, 1941, a message was received from Station AOR


in Germany by the radio station operated by the Bureau at Centerport,
Long Island for relay to Station GBO in Mexico reading as follows:

" F o r d B B H Question. Can you receive safely a


letter from Tokio or what is a safe way. Is address
still unchanged."

Apparently in ansvfer to this message on April 7, 1941


a message was received by the Bureau Station at Centerport, Long
Island from Station GBO in Mexico for relay to Station ACR in Germany
reading as follows:

"For letters via Tokio. My address.


Post Box 1006, Mexico City.

The question arises from this as to


Subject FRIEDRICH KARL VON SCHLEBRTJGGE and i f H
alias of VON SCHLEBRIJGGE. At the present tiraex^ismorelogical
to believe jbhaiSHMBMLa_separate and distinct individual possibly
and any mail received in Box 1OO6

FRIEDRICH KARL VON SC psest associate in


Mexico appears to be he is also known
to Subjects,
an<

Either Subject FRIEDRICH KARL VON SCHLEBRUGGE OJ


has received riail through Apartado 1744 in Mexico 7,
r the name FREIHERR VON SCHLEBRTJGGE.

S u b j e c t H | H B H i carries the keys for Apartado 1744.


and information inaTcafce^Tnat it is a clearing house for correspondence
relating to the German espionage system in Mexico.
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The following i s a d e s c r i p t i o n of Subject FRIEDRICH


KARL VON SCHLEHTOQGEt

Age 53 years
Born 1888, Obglagnu or Ober Glagui,
Germany
Height 6'
Build Medium Stout
Eyes Blue
Hair Brown
Complexion Fair
Nose Straight
Beard Smooth shaven
Occupation General representative
Residence Calle Vallarta 14, Mexico City
Former Address - Apartment 36A,
Donato Guerra S t . 14, Mexico City.
Race vmite
Nationality German
Relatives l i f e - Birgit Olga (or Frida)
address, same*
, Oae child.
Father-in-lawj SVEN JOHAN HOLMQUIST
Mother-in-lawj JULIE HCOIQUIST, both

Photograph In f i l e .
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WTMESS CLASSIFICATrOM.

VON TffiGENER.

1. Immigration and N a t u r a l i z a t i o n .

2. Espionage A c t i v i t i e s - Knowi o r P o s s i b l e .

"illliara Sebold.

3 S u r v e i l l a n c e s - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4. Microphone S u r v e i l l a n c e - ( A d m i s s i b i l i t y Questionable.)

5. Employment Kecord.

6. History and Prior Activities.


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REs CAPTAIN VON Y.EGEIIER, vdth alias


Captain T/egener

Addressi Hamburg, Germany

April 19, Informant SEBOLD, while calling upon subject STEIN at


1940 her apartment, 127 East 54th Street, Hew York City,
was asked "by STEIK if he knew the "Captain", STEIN
later explaining that he was Captain Y7EGENER of the
Lufthansa. Following SEBOLD's negative reply, STEIN
made no further statement about CAPTAIN "WEGEKER other
than that she had met him in Hamburg.

(Serial 892, Page 6)

May 4, At a meeting between STEIK and SEBOLD at the former1s


1940 apartment, STEIN, replying to Informant's question as
to the manner in which she had met the men who sent her
to America, said that she had net CAPTAIN VON WEGENER
in Vienna and that he had sent her to Hamburg where she
had r.et KEINRICh' SORAII and the rest of the men. STEIN
did net go into detail vdth regard to the identities of
these men.

(Serial 1081, Page 5)

Hay 25, While talking vdth STEIK in her apartment, SEBOLD re-
1940 quested further information concerning VON YvEGENERi
STEIK thereupon explained that she had net him through
some people in Vienna; that he had induced her to come
to Hamburg, where his headquarters were located; and
that he was the man who prevailed upon her to enter
espionage. Further, STEIN said that TON V/EGENER was
REI1TRICH SORAU' s superior and that he was a prominent
German official. She expressed the belief that VON
YiSGEKEE' s name was probably assumed, and mentioned the
fact that he had been a big game hunter in South .America.
STEIN had no idea as to whether VON WEGENER was then
or ever had been in America.

(Serial 1227, Page 12)


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DESCRIPTION

Names CAPTAII YOU WEGE1TEK, with alias


Captain Wegener (names believed assumed)

Address; Hamburg, Gernany

40 to 45
Height: 5* 9" to 5' 11" (same as subject V
Builds Medium. >
FJ.ce: ICorth German
Appearance: Good looking
Eyeglasses: Horn rims
Rose: Straight, slightly hooked
Hair: Dark blonde, thick, parted
Occupation: High German official; alleped sxiperior
of'subject KEIKKICH SOEAU

(Serial 1227, Pare IS)


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WITNESS CLASSIFICATION
LEO WAALBJ

Igmigratdon and Naturalization


U. S, Immigration and Naturalisation

2 Espionage Activities ~ Known or Possible


millaa Sebold
See Sect. I- Sebolds Office,
3/7/a 4/10/a 4/12/41
4/21/a 4/28/41 5/5/a 5/7/a
5/12/a 5/19A1 5/27/a 5/30/a
6/4/41 6/23/a
7/29/a

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence


1/21/a
Donegal 12/16/40 1/25/a
J. C. Ells-north
10/24/40 3/7/41 3/lO/a 3/12/a
2/25/a Va
5/19/41 6/4 6/16/a
5/7/a 10/4/40 10/24/40 UL/11/40
7/1/40
5/15/a
12A6/40 12/30/40 1/8/a 1/21/a
1/25/a 2/25/41 3/7/a 3/10/a
3/12/a 3/33/41 4/5/a 4/10/a
4A2A1 4/16/41 4/21/a 4/25/a
4/28/a 5/5/41 5/7/a 5/12/a
5/27/a 5/3O/41 6/23/a
10/24/40 12/16/4C 12/30/40 1/8/41
1/25/a 2/25/a 3/7/a 3Ao/a
3/12/a 3/31/41 4/5/41 4Ao/a
4A2/41 4/16/a 4/21/a 4/25/a
4/28/a 5/5/a 5A2/a 5/19/a
5/27/a 5/30/a 6/4/a 6/23/41
// .. . 4/12/41 4/16/a
4/21/41 4/25/a 4/28/a 5/5/a
5/7/a 5A2/41 5A9/41 5/30/a
6/16/a
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WITNESS CLASSIFICATION (WAALEN)

3. S u r v e i l l a n c e s - Corroborative or D i r e c t Evidence

6/29/a
6/29/a
6/29/a
10/4/40 11/11/40
1/21/41 1/25/41
6/29/a
10/24/40
10/24/40
12/16/40 12/30/40 1/21/41 2/25/41
3/7/41 3/10/41 3/12/41 3/31/41
4/5/a

4* Microphone Surveillance- (Aflmissibility Questionable)

5. Employment Record

Wood Yacht Basin, City Isl, M.I. N.Y.

6, History and Prior Activities


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65-1819 LEO WAALEN,
true name LEO TUCZTNSKI, Kith aliases,
Res: 1530 Second Avenue,
New York, New York.
Business: Hood Yacht Basin,
173-5 Marine Street,
City Island, New York, New York.

A check at the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 641


Washington Street, New York, New York, reflects in File #2-549274,
that LEO WIGZYNSKI, arrived in the United States November 26, 1937,
at the Port of New York on board the S # S. President Harding, He filed
Declaration of Intention #132789, October 4, 1937* He was born at
Danzig, Germany, December 7, 1907 and immigrated from Hamburg, Germany under
Immigration Visa and Passport #847738 issued July 3Q*_1937 by the American
Danzic

From WAALSN'S marriage license on file in the marriage license


bureau, Msaieipal Building, Borough of Manhattan, New York Citjt New York,
it was ascertained that he was married on June 14, 1939
He is presently employed as chief painter at Tfood Yacht
Marine Street, City Island, New York City, New York. WAALEN also stated
in the marriage license previously mentioned that his father's name is
KONSTANTIN WAALEN, and his mother's name is ERNESTINE (GawonskL) WJULEN,
and that both of his parents were born in Germany, and it is presumed that
they presently reside there.
LEO WAALEN enters this investigation, due to the fact that on
July 1, 1940, Special Agents covered a meeting at Columbus Circle, New
York City, New York, between WILLIAM SEBOLD and subjects FRANZ STIGLER,
ERTNIN SIEGLER and PAUL FEHSE. STIGLER and FEHSE left the meeting
together and proceeded to 1530 Second Avenue, New York City, New York
and entered the premises. They were subsequently observed in an apart-
ment in that building, later determined to be the apartment of LEO WAALEN.
Shortly, thereafter, they left this building with a man later identified
as LEO WAALEN.

October 4>
1940. Ihile agents were following FRANZ STIGLER,
he was observed to enter 1530 Second Avenue,
New York City, New York at approximately
8:10 P.M. He remained at this apartment
until 9:05 p.m. and it is believed that,
during this period, he was visiting LEO
WAALEN.

(Serial 3521, p, 13)


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Or. t h i s date YYIELIAL SEBOLD received


a l e t t e r addressed to hir at box 344,
General Post Office, po3ix:arl:ed I.ex;
York, Yev- York, October 19, 1940.
;tober 21. 1B40 The l e t t e r reads as follcv/s: "beet
cy friend on your p]ace, .Sunday Oct.
20. a t 7:00 pm, Daily Y.ews, ranted
Gray. Perards APiYUG". This l e t t e r
vas sent by FEAYL STICLEY. for the
purpose of introducing LEO UAALET. to
"YILLIATiY GEEOLD. (Serial 3521, p. 29)

Or t h i s date YYILLIAY: OEEOED received


f; hnndrrintcc l e t t e r addressed to hir:
a t box 344, rosi~.arlxd Eew York, Hew
York, October 22, 1940. This l e t t e r
October 2.7 . 3 940 reads, "^'ill -eet you on ThurrYsy,
Oct. 24 a t . 7.on ^ o n c i r c l e - Yews.
L.lrocbuaed b- AFZUG "= This l e t t e r
was uailed to :.TILLI/i; S.YBOLD by LEO
WAALEE, so t h a t the former ir.iht meet
hijft on October 24, a t Columbus Circle
as indicated in the l e t t e r . ( S - o 5 2 1 , p l 3 )

On t h i s date VflLLIii. t EEOLD proceeded


to Columbus Circle, Ynv York City, llerr
October 24, 1E40 York, and arrived a t around 6:55 pm,
and a t 7:02 pra he was contacted by LEO
YiAALEE, who advised SE30LD t h a t his
residence address was 1530 Second Ave.,
Eev; York City:, i;ew York.

'Si. advised SEBOLD t h a t he worked in the Y/ood' s Yacht Basin,


Cii t y Island, Eerr York, as a chief p a i n t e r ; t h a t he i s net an American
c i t i z e n , although, he has his f i r s t papers, and that he came from.
Danzig, Germany.

WAALEN said t h a t he had been engaged a t t h i s type work since


PAUL FEIiSE returned from his t r a i n i n g period in Germany; and t h a t PAUL
FEHSE and FRAliZ STIGLER were the individuals who induced him to engage
in espionage a c t i v i t y . lie handed Y/TLLI&i "SEEOLD/ on t h i s -occasion, the *
Jvly 1940 issue "LYiami Fort and Aviation Book", wrdch is a magazine
apparently published a t G08 Professional Building, Iv'iami, Florida, and
in t h i s magazine were three papers which TIAALEl-T stated should be sent
to Germany. Apparently the magazine was merely a means of covering up
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the papers which were to be sent, as Y/AALEE did not want the mag-sine
to be sent over. The papers are described as follows:

1. U. S. ITavy schedule, number 2760, (oEJFS)


consisting of bids and specifications which
v;ere opened Sentesber 9, 1S40 for boats, surf
luiidinr, wood h u l l .

2. A l e t t e r from the .ravy Department, bureau of


Supplies and Accounts, dated August IS, 1940
repardin^ schedule, nunber 2760.

3. Government form bid, number 31, in blank.


(These papers are r o t b e i r r set out, due -'. o
the fact that they arc fully reported in the
sumnary report under t h e testimony of ITILLIAiv:
tiEOLD.)

VAAT.EI." stated t o SEDCLP ihat he : r able tc .o or;y place in the


plant cf v.rcod' s 1'finht ^.asin. ?r:d car. r e t his hantio on aiKost anything
except blueprint, fie told SLBOLD that ho- obtained the r.iat.eri&is
previously set out froinvhe plc.nt.

At t h i s n e e t i n r SiiECID endeavored to learn YiAALiT'S backrround


in espionape a c t i x ' i t i e s , but ":.'AALE-: said t h a t he had no personal '
contact with any German a u t h o r i t i e s ; that his only contact has been
PAUL FMiSlj and FliAbZ STILLER.

At t h i s ineetinr SHLOLD and l/AALEI" arranged t h a t whenever WAALEN


obtained any materials that should be s e r t to Germany, he would write
to SEBOLD, and meet hirr a t Columbus C i r c l e , I lew York City, Keiv York.
VvAiil-EI-1 e l s o , a t t h i s t i n e , wrote dov.T. SEIiCLD'S n a i l box address,
although i t appears that PiiAIZ iSTITLK had a l l ready riven 17AALE1T,
SEEOLD'S address in view of the l e t t e r which has been nreviouslv set cu"!

On t h i s date 1-7ILLIAM SLBOLD received a


l e t t e r postmarked Hew York, November 9,
lovcnber 11, 1S40 1940 reading as follows:

"New York l l / s / 4 0
JJonday, Ilovenber 1 1 . 8 pm -
CIR. "' '

LEO"
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At 8:00 pm on t h i s date SEE OLD met JJIO WAALEK a t Columbus


C i r c l e , HOT York C i t y . At t h i s time, \7AALHI handed to SEBOLD, U. S.
JTavy schedule of Supplies, number 5681, concerning b o a t s , a i r c r a f t
rescue, and spare p a r t s ; bids t o be opened on November 1, 1940. The
schedule was contained in an envelope addressed Postmaster General,
"J. S. !"., Bureau of Supplies end Accounts, L!avy Department, Washington,
D. C , and i s marked "URGENT Y.:II L I.IAIL". The envelope had not been
sealed. On t h i s occasion, he also handed to 1/.1LLIAE SEBOLD a hand-
printed l i s t of Shipbuilding Corporation, vfo ich i s as follows;
1. "Ar.erican Car & Foundry Co., Wilmington, Del.
1U;T Submarine Chaser 110 - f t . x 15 - f t .
2 in. x 9 - f t .
Equipped T/ith 1200 H. F. Gen.
L'otors Diesel engines. At a cost of L2?3,358
TT Q

2. Defoe Boat <1- I.'otor vrorks, Bav City, IJ:;.ch


H. J. Defoe, Ger. I'-aiiager
A. Johnson Plant, Superintendent
V.r. E. Whitehouse, Purchasing Ag&nt
1 170 Foot Sub. Chaser Cost ;fi,255,OGG
1 174 " " " " :'" 1,3 2 2,400
U.S. Navy
3. Fisher Boat ,,"orks, Detroit, Mich.
2 "Wooden hull motor torpedo Boats
59
5 ft. Cost & 51,612

4. "Luders Marine Construction Co., Stamford, Conn.


1 110 ft. wooden hull Sub. chaser
Cost 194,139
6 llavy all welded Tugboats

5. Consolidated Shipbuilding Corp., Morris Heights, EVY.


If. Parslovr President
F. McCaffrey Vice-President
C. Vfood Secretary
Adolph Vfizernann plant Director
6 H a w Tugboats all v/elded Steel
6. Robert Jacob, Inc., City Island, K. Y., Pilot Str. :
Robert Jacob PresidfiBt
Joseph Harvey Vice-President *'
6 IJavy Tupboats Steel
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7. Miami S h i p b u i l d i n g C o r p . , Miami, F l a .
Theodore C. Buhler President
J . T. Rambler Gen. Superintendent
Dair N. Long Faval Architect
2 5B Foot v:ooden h u l l motor Torpedo Boats
c o s t 4 89,875 U. S. Kavy*
From LEO"
Y7AALEC told SEEOLD that SEEOLD should not destroy this material
until he is sure that nothing is missed from his office, indicating
that he had stolen the material out of the Shipbuilding Company where
he is working.

At the conclusion of this meeting Y7ILLIAM SI-BOLD and LEO WAALEE


took a bus to West 86th Street, arid from there took a crosstovm bus to
East 86th Street where SEBOLD showed Y'AALEU the restaurant, "Zum
Sohv.T-rzen Adler", where SEBO: D asked AALT! to meet him in the future.

(Serial 4153, pp. 4, 5)

YflLLIAl,: SEEOLD received the following


letter addressed to post office box 344,
General Post Office, postmarked Monday,
December 9, 1940, reading:

December 10, 1940 "New York Dec. 9, 1940

M r. 11a r ry S awe r
General Post Office
Box 344
Hew York City
Tomorrow at 8:00 pm Dec. 10.
Adler.
LEO"

This letter requests that SEBOLD meet


Vi'AALEE according to the date and-time
as set out in the message.

WILLIAH SEEOLD met LEO WAALEE at the restaurant, Zum Schwarzen


Adler, at which time Y7AALE1I said that he did not have very much, and
he handed SEBOLD a three page type written list of shipbuilding and
motor works in United States, together with the ships they were building.
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This list is not being set out, due to the fact that it is previously
set out in this summary report under the testimony of VvILLLSJ SEBOLD.

Y.'AALEI: also tended SEE OLD a clipping from a magazine consisting


of a photograph, and caption coneerring a water wasp of the U. S. ITavy,
number PT-1O, also a schedule, number 1097, standard Government form
of invitation for bid issued by the War Department, U. S. Engineer
Office, Hew York District, llovember 15, 1940. WAALEN also advised
8EB0LD that he had seen PAUL FEK5E recently, and that FEHSE was at this
time working in a restaurant, and vrished to contact SEBOLD. At this
time SEBOLD gave T.'AALEK his new post office box number 67, Kadi son
Souare Station.

"wILLLaL SEEOLD received a letter from


LEO WAALEE, postmarked December 14, 1940,
Ecw York, Hew York, which reads as follov;s:

December 14 ; 1940 "Y.evr York Dec. 13. 1940

Ton&rrow Deco 14.


8:00 P.M.

LEO"

LEO YvAALEE arrived at WILLIAM SEEOLD'S


office at 152 West 42nd Street, Hew York
City, Eew York at 6:45 T.. Ee stated that
he did not have anything himself this time,
December 16, 1940 however, he handed Informant an envelope
addressed to KERBE A. C-EHHOFF, per ADR~. 8.
Peters, Commandit Ceselfchast, Hamburgs,
Scoeckelhoern 11. In this envelope there
were four items, the substance of which is not being set out, due to the
fact that it is fully reported under the testimony in this summary report
of WILLIAM SEBCS..D. They can be identified as follows:

1. A note in German signed FIEK. (This is a note


from PAUL FEHSE.)

2. An item in German which WAALEN said was given


-' -:-: - to-FEHoE-'-by a girlfriend, who. is-connected with -
the German Consulate. (Possibly ELSE YvTSUSTEKFELEf)
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3. A note in German which -was apparently


7rritten by FAUL FEHSE which furnishes
information relative to DAITISH SEEPS,
and the manner in which this previously
mentioned Government handles its crews
and captains.

4. Excerpt from the "progress of Preparedness"


by Professor Ayres, Vice-President, Cleveland
Trust Company, published September, 1940.

SEEOLB asked WAAL El! who broke him into this business, and
';.:A/>LE'I said that PAUL i'EHSE did, and that he has known FEHSE for
about two years since he was on the Manhattan. ITAALEr: further advised
SEEOLD that he has never received money for his services, and that
he could use some right now to give to the watchman where he works.
YiAALEIT said that this watchman lilies to get drunk once in awhile, that
if Yi'AALEK cov.ld get hii"n. drunk, he would have an opportunity to go
through tlifc things in the plant.

YfAALEi; informed SEEOLD that PAUL FEHSE is presently working in


a restaurant by the name of Van Axen's, located 56 Gold Street in New
York City. V/AALEK further stated that FEHSE had not informed Germany
that he, V/AALEK, is working in this business.

'With reference to this meeting between LEO WAALEN and WILLIAlfi


SEEOLD it should be stated that recordings were made, and that motion
nictures were taken of the -favo seated in SEBOLD1S office.

WILLIAL'1 SEBOLD received a letter, postmarked


F.evi York City, December 20, 1940 from WAAL EN,
signed "LEO", containing information
concerning movements and cargoes of English
December 20, 1S40 and Belgium ships. This letter also contains
information concerning the construction of
ships for the TJ. S. Navy. This letter is not
being set out in detail, due to the fact that
it is fully reported in the summary report
under the testimony of WILLIAM SEBOLD.
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WILLI&I SEBOLD received a letter from


LEO WAALli: at P. 0. Box 67, Eadison
Square Station, postmarked Hew York, December
29, 1940, 4 pm. This letter advised in
December 30, 1940 substance that SEBOLD could expect WAALE1 on
Monday, December 30, 1940 at 7:00 pm at
SEBOLD'S office, 152 West 42nd Street, New
York City. In response to this letter from
YIAALEK, SLEOLD met" viAALEl-] at his office on
the nipht of December 30, 1940, and at this
tire WAALI2: stated that he had not been able
to ret very much of importance. However, he rave VflLLI/ii SEBOLD the
follov.anp material which is not being set out in substances, due to the
fact that it is fully reported in this report under the testimony of
WILLIAM SEEOLD.

1. U. S. TTavy invitation to bid, schedule


4624 (SKIPS) concerring life boats.

2. Two page pamphlet from the Public Relations


Bureau, headquarters of the Coinmandent,
Third IT aval District, consisting of a
release in Editors concerning the intended
enrollment of 5000 Naval recruits.

3. Envelope addressed to IIEREH A. C-EREOFF, at


an address in Germany, containing two typed
sheets of paper a s follows:

a. Sheet ==1 was entirely in German, and


signed "FIKK" (PAUL FEHSE), and
coneerrs movements and cargo loadings
of a number of allied ships.

b. The remaining typed sheet was in


English and German, concerns ship
construction for the United States Eavy.

SEBOLD ascertained from WAALEH that the item referring to the


sailing date of the various ships was mailed to TffAALEIT by PAUL FEHSE.
SEBOLD asked WAALEK YJhere PAUL FEHSE got all of his information, and
YJAALM said that he gets it through ALFKED 3R0KE0FF, who works as a dock
machinist for the United States Li
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WAALEN said that he had some friends -who might bo interested in


doing something for Germany, and asked Informant what he thought about
recruiting them into the service. SE30LD stated that he did not feel
like encouraging WAALEN to brin~ his friends into the organization if
they were not all ready active, and told them to lay off these people
if they cane to him and volunteered their services.

: told SI BOLD that he carted to ~o to Philadelphia in the


near future and zee a friend of his who Tfor':s in an airplane factory,
and see if he wants to ret information. (Serial 4761, pp.17, 21, 50)

VriLLIAU SEBOLD received a l e t t e r a t


bo;: G7, Ladison Square S t a t i o n , postmarked
January 8, 1941 hew York, January 7, 1941 from LEO WAAL EN,
informing SEBOLD t h a t "tVAALE; would meet
him on January 8, 1941 a t 7:00 pm a t h i s
office. This l e t t e r was s i r n e d "LEO".

Pursuant t o the l e t t e r p r e v i o u s l y mentioned SEBGLD met


V/AALE.' in h i s o f f i c e a t 7:10 pm, and Y/AALE:; handed SEEOLD the following
items. These items a r e n o t bein~ s e t out in d e t c . i l , due to the f a c t
t h a t they are f u l l y r e p o r t e d in t h i s r e p o r t under t h e testimony of
V/ILLIA!-,: SLBGLD.

1. Two copies of schedule 4826 (SKIPS), bids on


which arc to be opened at 10:00 am, January 17,
1941. This schedule covers supplies for
United States I'.avy consisting of "boats, air-
craft rescue and spare parts.

2. Standard Government form of bid, number 31.

5. A type-I report in GeiT.ian relative to motor


torpedo boat. This report discusses the motor
torpedo boat of the United States Uavy, knov.ii
as PT-6, which was built by A. J. HlGC'li;S, ITevr
Orleans, La.

4. A typed item in German advising that the Ravy


Department has rebuilt approximately fortjr-five
of t he best American fishing boats for use in
mine, search, and list the names of some of these
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WAALET a l s o i n f o r m e d SEBOLD t h a t h e h a s a p a m p h l e t a t home


which was issued by FBI, and which deals with plant protection
a-ainst spys. lie said tact i t is now ver; difficult to obtain any
information, as a l l plants are careful ly ivatched.

7TAALEH said that he is spending approximately 125 out of h i s


''Ci'soiial funds in securing info mat ion, and that he expects to be
reimbursed on these expenses.

verc obtained.

"with reference to the expenditures which


UAALEr. stated that he has made, the
following radio message v,ras SBnt to
Germany." "EIEKS (PAUL FEESS) friend LEO
January 14, 1941 V/AALEE has had f;125 expenses for Y.
Division. She expects money. CARIi
(FREDERICK DUQUES1TE) also wants money.
1 hr.ve sent materials through KEGRKE
(ERICH S T ? l T i n { ) H H H H | He also wants

YiTLL IAIil SLPOLD received a communication


at box 67, Hadison Station, postmarked
January 21, 1941 ^^ York, January 20, 1941 containing a

l e t t e r reading as follows:

"Jan. 20, 1941

ilr. Harry Sawyer


See you tomorrow 7 pm. 42 Str

L.E.O."
The signature indicates t h a t the l e t t e r i s from LEO WAiiLEi, and t h a t
he wishes t o contact "vTILLIAM SEBOLD a t the l a t t e r s office being 152,-W.
42nd S t r e e t , Hew York, Hew York.
At 7:25 pm WILLIAL' SEBOLD met LEO 1TAALEK a t h i s office a t which
tine YfAALEil handed hip a publication "Suggestions for Protection of :
I n d u s t r i a l F a c i l i t i e s " , issued "by the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
United States Department of J u s t i c e , Washington, D. C , August, 1940.
The portion of t h i s publication containing a s e r i a l number which was
torn out before SEBOLD received the same. SEBOLD, however, saw the
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number and memorized it, snd as ho recalls the number was 10948.
VfAALEK said that he got the publication from his place of employment.
It the request of YVAALET who said that everything sent to Germany
should "be numbered, on page two of this publication was "typed the
phrase "FIKK 131940". F I:\-K is the name used by PAUL FEIISE.

also asked SEBOLD about FEHSE, and said that he


personally ha. a friend who works as a die maker in a Long Island
airplane factory, but that the man does :.ot knov /That these dies are
used for. He gave SEEOLD the impression that he might contact this
man for information. Recordings of the conversation at this meeting
were made and photographs were taken. (Serial 5862, p. 12)

WILLIAM SEROLD on the afternoon of this


date found the following note under the
door of his office, 152 West 42nd Street,
Pew York, };ew York.

I?ink vould like 'bo see you this


evening at 8:00 o'clock. I have
telephoned you several times but
January 25, 1S41 unfortunately without results, i''
will call you a few tines more
today. In case it is otherwise,
please telegraph, giving a meeting
place*

Signed

L.E.O.

I,:ii. SAlfYEL is the name by WILLIAM SEEOLD,


and FTMK mentioned in the letter refers
to PAUL FEHSE.

On this evening JB.Q.1Y HAHD (HARIWIC- KLEISS) was in 7IILLIM SEBOLD'S


office, and at approxiismtely 9:00 pn PAUL FEHSE and LEO W M L E B walked into
the office. SESOLD advised that the three men appeared to know each
other, and that they conversed generally about FRAIffi STIGLER and the fact
that STIGLER had been recently under surveillance. 1TAALH-I was also present
aiT the time PAUL FEHSR- handed WILLIAM SLBOLD some pagers, one containing a
report relative to the iimerican ships sold to the British, the other paper
was relative to ihe cargoes of various ships in the Hew York Harbor.
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The information contained in the papers handed to YflLLIAM


SEBOLD by PAUL FEHSE is not being set out in detail due to the
fact that it is fully reported in this summary report under the
testimony of WILLIJ2J SEBOLD. Redordings were made of the conversation
durinc this meeting, and movinf and still pictures were taken by
Bureau Agents. (Serial 6648, p.2)

On this date around 9:45 pm PAUL FEHSE


net YiXLLlhli SE33I.D at the" latters office,
and during the conversation SEBOLD told
February 10, 1941 FEHSE that he had received a letter on
this date, and handed this letter to
FEHSE. This is a letter postmarked
February 8, I; err York, I'ew York vrf-iich
contained two typed sheets of paper, one
numbered FIliC (PAUL FEHSE) 4 1941, the other FIiJK (PAUL FEHSL)"5 1941.
On the bottom of the page numbered FIHK 5 1941 is s request by "LEO"
(T.EO 17AALH!) that this material be sent to the address of CHERHCFF, in
Germany. SEBOLD asked FERSE if LEO YiAALBN prepares the reports himself.
FEHSE said not, that the reports are his work; llu;t he Salccc then in
person to LEO, and that L1X nails them to VflLLIAK SEBOLD. He said that
he sometimes personally types there un on LEO'S typewriter, and other,
times he hands them to LEO in longhand and LEO types them up in his
office. Recordings were irc.de of the conversation at this meeting, -and
nhotorraphs were token.

On this date WILLIAL' SEEOI.D received an


envelope addressed to him at box 67,
February 25, 1941 1,'adison Square Station, New York City,
and postmarked, "New York, February 24,
1941". This communication "was dated
February 24, 1941, and reads as follows:

"Tomorrow 7:30 pm. - L.E.O.


In case you have r>o tire send
telegram Adr. L.E.O."

At 7:30 pm on this date PAUL FEHSE and LEO WAALEH walked into
Y.-ILLJJa: SEEOLD'S office. During this meeting FEHSE did most of the
talking, and the three discussed CARL REUPER and a man named HILL,
probably AXEL TfflEELER-HILL, and EICEET.LAUB who is supposed to know a
man with a portable radio. SEBOLD also discussed with WAALEK and FEHSE
the radio..message, number IG&j- -received February 22," wiicE reads:

"Important to know to which African port


war materials from U.S.A. are exported,
and for which warring party. Please also
determine source of orders. Also instruct FIKK".
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SEBOLD a l s o repeated the previously,' given request from Germany


t o find out how many a i r p l a n e s have been s e n t t o B r i t i a n from
t h e U.S.A. since t h e -war s t a r t e d , and for p r e p a r a t i o n s for f l y i n g
via I r e l a n d and Iceland. This meeting: i s s e t out i n d e t a i l under
the testimony of TflLLIAli 3EB0LD in t h i s summary r e p o r t . Recordings
were made of t h e conversation a t t h i s meeting, and photographs -were
taken. ( S e r i a l 6648, p . 2 )

At a previous meeting "between wILUAT.


SEBOLD and PAUL FLHSE, being on Tsrch
5, 1941, i t Tras agreed that"l,EO T/AALP^
March 7, 1941 would c a l l upon TvTLLIAL SLTXilT) on t h i s
d a t e . At 7:00 pm 'VAALE!' entered
Will IAM SEPOLD'S o f f i c e , and handed the
l a t t e r f i v e items. Ke advised SEBOID
t h a t a l l m a t e r i a l v/hich i s signed
"FIEK", and which c a r r i e s a s e r i a l number, t h a t i s , such as " F i n : 1",
"FIOL 2", i s material which comes from h i n s e l f (YfAALE:'.). "l.rAALE:: told
oi.BOLD t h a t he is makinr a round of t h e boat, b u i l d i n p p l a n t s , and i s
t a l k i n g to workmen, ana a l s o c l i p p i n g things 0"+, of n a r i n e magazines
and in t h i s way gathers h i s information. VfAALEI; f u r t h e r advised SE20LD
he has the run of the p l a c e where he works, and t h a t i t i s easy t o
swipe t h i n g s out of "the o f f i c e . However, he said a f t e r the d i s a p p e a r -
ance of t h e FBI P l a n t P r o t e c t i o n t.'anual, things seeraed to have gotten
a l i t t l e t i g h t e r around the p l a n t . He s t a t e d t h a t FE1ISE and HE 1! RICH
OLAUSItTC wanted to c a l l and see TCILLIAL SEEOLD on Londay, L'arch 10, at
9:30 -pm.

The following i s a l i s t of items received fron Y;AAltT: by SEEOLD


which i s b e i n j mereljf i d e n t i f i e d and n o t s e t out i n d e t a i l , due to the
f a c t i t i s f u l l y s e t out in t h i s summary r e p o r t under t h e testimony of
VflLLIAM SEBOLD.

1. L i s t of s h i p s i n Hew York Harbor, and


information c o n c e r n i n g . t h e i r various cargoes.

2. Information regarding c o n t r a c t s for t h e


c o n s t r u c t i o n of s h i p s , and t h e companies
received t h e c o n t r a c t s .

3. Report concerning Eiotor torpedo boats b u i l t


by the Slco 3oat T.rorks, Eayonne, IT. J .

4. Standard Govf.rnnent Form of Bid-, nunber 51;-


on the f i r s t paf:e of v/hich i s printed. "F~u]-T
DERiiOFF" and^'FlKl 10".
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5. Schedule of Supplies for U. S. IT a w ,


Schedule Ko. 4969 (SHIPS) bids to be
opened on January 25, 1941. This
document i s also addressed to "HERlilT
GEKIIQPF" and i s marked "FIKK 10".

Recordings v,rere made of the conversation at t h i s meeting,


and rhotorraphs v:ere takeno (Serial 66E7, pn?. to 8)

On t h i s date about 9:35 pra. PAUL


FEESE and LEO YfAALEE walked into
the office of HTLLIAE: SEEOLD. PAUL
Earch 10, 1941 EFIuSE did most of the talking which
concerned JiEIERICH CLAUGING, \vho
FEIIoE said he would t r y and bring to
oEUOLD'S office the next t i r e .
"i.'AALEN was present v.'hcn ^EE-CLD paid
FEEiJE i-iOO pursuant to radio r.ecsafe, r.unber 110, received froir. the
Cen-tr stuLion AOR, on Yvrrh TO. l41 0 This nessare v:as a l t o
exhibited to E; HSL v.rhich instructed SEBOLD to pay FEHSt, tne money.
V-.A
' ALLE v;ac also present, when FEHSE handed SEBCLD the follov/ing items.

1. Arriy and Eavy Journal, dated Dec ember 21, 1940.

2. Coast A r t i l l e r y Journal, dated i'ovenber -


Decer.bei-, 1940.

S. Canadian Aviation Llacazine, December, 1940.

4. Information r egarding purchase of ships by


II. S.A.

The a r t i c l e s -nrevf cus]''- merti oned are- i-.ot be^n^ full"'? set out,
as the info maxim: contained, thereon i s set out in d e t a i l under the
testimony of 7>"ILLIAI.'. SEDGED in t h i s r e p o r t . Recordings were made of
the conversation which took place during t h i s meeting, and s t i l l and
notion p i c t u r e s v.-ere taken. ( S e r i a l 6686, p3)

On t h i s date LEO WAAL3T, PAUL FEESE, sad


KEINRICH CLi.USHCG contacted WILLIAM SEBOLD
March 12, 1941 at the l a t t e r s o f f i c e . During t h i s meeting
. . . . . . . . SEBOLD handed CLAUSILG a group.-of irdcro-
'. " photographs of n a t e r i a l received from
PAUL I'ERSE, LEO YiAALEE a n c S H B and WAALEII
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EH,':PAT.:

GE-181S

was p r e s e n t a t t h e tir.e t h i s m a t e r i a l v/as t r a n s f e r r e d t o CLAUSIE'G.


"iaiiiLEl: had n o t h i n g to say d u r i n g t h i s m e e t i n g . YfAALE? vrei' p r e s e n t
when s e v e r a l iteirs v;ere handed t o SEEOLD by PAUL PLIISE. These items
are not "being set out, di;e to the fact t h a t they arc fully discussed
in the testinioney of Y/ILLIAM SLBOLD in t h i s report. Recordings were
made of t h e conversation during t h i s meeting, and photographs were
til:en by Bureau Agents. ( S e r i a l 66G8, p.2)

On t h i s date PAUL rEh"i!E and WlLLiAE


SIIT'ID had a neetinr ir. the l e t t e r s
Larch 37, li'41 office, a t v;hich tir.e FLIEGE ir.tirra\:.ed
t h a t he ir.ipfrt return to Germany.
FKhSE advised SEBOLD t h a t i r oarse he
leaves t};c "United t^.r.tes, he w i l l
Iff,1, c LFO I'.'A/tU^ in charge of his a f f s i r s , necauce he thinks '.-.'AAlir.
ic a -ood^ r e l i a b l e man. Recordings of the conversation betvreen
..L1GL3 end _-Url3E vere r.&tie at the tir.e of this rnoetirr,, aro photo-
;-r'ii"hs vere taken. {^eyj.u'l G776, p*-)
Y-fAALEN.

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Tarch 29, SSBCLD received a letter from Y/'AALEN making an


19U. appointment for Larch 31. The letter also included
a typsvnritten document in German containing information
on ships being built or Tforked on, for the United States
Havy and other shipping companies.

llarch 31, w'AALEN came to SEI3OLD's office. He told of going


1941. to the S. S. SI30NEY to see FETISE off, but not seeing
him, and could not take his oar which r,ras left parked
on the pier (he did not know of FEHSE's arrest). As
to carrying on the espionage work he said he only knevr
BROKHOFF, SCKUH and BLANK and did not have much dine to
check the docks. He said SCHUH was no good in the
Karine end of this business but had contacts in
'..ashington and had made tv'o patterns and he had sent one
to jermauy lo be used in decoding his messages. He gave
SEDOLD more material to be sent to Germany consisting
of shipping information and ship-yard information
including a list of United States Navy ships being built
in various ship yards.

April 5, Y/AALSN telephoned and came to SEBOLD's office. He


1941. said FEHSE vras in jail as a result of some letters he
v.Tote in April 1940 to Italy. The FBI apparently having
found his fingerprints on the letter and he pled guilty.
He did not think the FBI would trace through FEHSE to
M E , SEBOLD, that they had told BROKHOFF to take care of
FSHSE's possessions and car. He said BROKHOFF was going
to see SCHUH. WAALEN said he would mail to SEBOLD, some
ship information he had. SEBOLD told WAALEN to use his
cnm judgement as to whether to continue in the spy
business. Hs said he knew the risks and was old enough
to know what he was doing.

April 7, SEBOLD received a latter from Y/AALEN containing


19a. informational shipping and shipyard construction work,
including ships taken over by the United States Navy and
Array, for transport service, as well as ships being fcrjlt-
for the United States Coast Guard and Navy,
v..,- 2.

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April 10, Radio Lies sages #243 and #244 sent to Germany, setting
1941, out shipping information furnished by YiMLEN and noted
as "From Fink's friend LEO".

'./AALEil caae to SEBOLD's office. Us stated that


BRCKHOFF had been to see FI2ISE who had signaled to him
to jet rid of his typewriter. YiAALEH said in the next
feY,r days he -would get in hie sail boat and make trips
through the harbor and thereby observe the ships in the
harbor. V/AALEN also gave SZ30LD sons written information
to be sent to Germany, including shipping information,
an:1 work beinr done or to be done in various shipyards
for the United States Navy, setting out the type of vrcrk
arv' alterations.

A p r i l 12, /.'AALE.i; brought GEORG 3051111 t o i. BOLD'? o f f i c e and


V-Vl. i n t r o d u c e d him to 3E30LD. 3GIIUK sai he did t h i s kind of
work out of h i s own c o n v i c t i o n s for
SE3OLD some s h i o n i n r i n f o r m a t i o n .

Y/AALHN gave SE30LT) seme written information to be


sent tc Germany which included shipyard construction
work on the U. S. Battleships, airplane carriers and
other ships. He also rave SEBOLD a newspaper clipping
which he said was from lirs. SCHUH, entitled, "List of
Seized Ships", and tabulates sixty eight ships seized
and sets out the ports they are in.

in the office uMLEN made a telephone call


to BLANK at ^vSSTSRlLAN' S BOOK STORE vath reference to
his securing telephone books of various English cities,
as requested in a radio message.

April 16, LEO "JAALEII came to SEBOLD's office and handed him
1941. three T-ritten items containing information on ships sold
to the United States Navy, Army, Canada and Great Britain
and others as well as information on shipyard construction
for the United States Navy, Army and others.

'"fMISN stated-he thought possibly he was being watched


at the plant where he worked;. " He also stated SGHUH ?>ras
formerly a member of the German Stahlhelm..

April 21, 'WAALEK caae to SEBOLD's office. He said he was going


1941. to see BLANK that night. He also said he knew a man sent
over by Germany for espionage purposes, by the name of
3.

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t> [who was now working in the Economics Division in


Washington and said he had his telephone number but not
his address. He also said another espionage.agent was
PAUL BAKTE who lives on 83rd Street and is a tool and
die maker and is a friend of SCIIUK's and is also a
Stahlheim leader.

Y/AALEN again mentioned sailing about the Hew York


harbor and asked SS30LD to buy him some high powered, field
glasses to secure the ships names.

He turned over material for transmission to Germany


containing shipping information, shipyard construction
information including shios to be built for the U.S. Navy.

April 25, SEBOLD received a letter from V/AALEN, containing shipping


1941. and shipyard information, also an item concerning the
construction of Stuka airplanes on Long Island and the
results of their tests.

Y/AALSN also came to SEBOLD's office and met Siegler


and STRUNCK while there. SEBOLD gave STRUNCIUn^rophotofraphs
of material furnished by ;.7AALEN, to deliver ^ | H H H f
Lisbon, i-VAALEN said BROKHOEF and CMUSING vlerSaiSig at
the Zum Schwarzen Adler restaurant to meet SEBOLD and Trent
there v.lth him. All four then viant to EICHENLAUBS1 tavern
vrhere they conversed concerning various espionage agents
and activities.

April 28, YfAALEN came to SEBOLD's. He asked SEBOLD if EELING


194-1* had been to see him and stated he was supposed to come.
He said he could not locate the address of BAKTE. SE30LD
showed V/AALEN messages from Germany requesting information
on shipments to Sivitzerland, Africa and Egypt, referring
to airplanes, etc., YfAALEN handed SEBOLD more written
information for delivery to Germany, concerning shipping
information pertaining mostly to that between the United
States and South Africa; also information on shipyard
construction work and information on ships taken over by
the United States Navy,
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I'ay 1, IJessage #253 was sent to Germany, s e t t i n g out information


1941. on t h e 5 , 5 . SOUTHERN PRINCE, and designated as from LED.

Lay 3, IJessage -#255 was sent to Germany setting out information


1941. concerning the S. S. CGCLE and SOUTHERN PRINCE and designated
from LEO.

!^y 5, WAALEII cane to SEBOLD's office and handed SEBOLD a group


1941. of raaterial including a slip of paper on which appeared the
name OTTOLIAR ISCKIEDRICH, Hamburg and which he said was the
name 3CHUH was known under in Germany. SEBOLD told WAALEN
to leave FIM's name off of the material he brought in and
put his ovm on, in order Germany vrould know who was
collecting it. Then in response to questions of SEBOLD
concerning various persons he had previously mentioned he
said that the man who is a draftsman in the Glenn Liar tin
factory, lives in the outskirts of Philadelphia and has a
brother who is the manager of the Catholic Kolpin House on
30th or 89th Street, between Second and Lexington Avenues,
Yorkvillej that he was recommended to him by one
_who kno'.vs Tfhat he
of
p r i n t i n g machines i n a machine icLUUJvy x.n_gr_jieaxNevr
Rochelle, which plant according * t o H B H H B is ging to
start manufacturing anti-aircraft guns^^WMLEN said that
the inventor, about whom he mentioned, whowBnt to the
German Consulate' s office with certain inventions^ i s named
^^^^ lives in the Bronx HHH
The die maker in the
mentioned i s or has a brother
a machinist,
ie knew of"no espionage activities on the part of
the draughtsman a t Glenn Liar t i n .
7iAALEI\T mentioned going vrith FEFISE and meeting
EIGHENLAUB a t E1GHEIJLAUB' s store and said, EICHE1JLAUB
knovrs what he, WAALEN, does.

SEBOLD then showed WAiiEN the message from Germany


requesting sea c h a r t s . "VAALEM said he could get t h e s e .

The Information turned over by WAALEN was a l i s t of


submarines and destroyers and other.ships being.or to be
b u i l t for the
o
United States Navy. sh3J333jyB^yii'ormation : '
and mention ^ f l [ | H | | | H H H | H | | H H | ^ H P here to
purportly closeacontra^^^^nLneStandard Oil Company, etc.,
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May 7, WAALEN came to SEBOLD1s office and handed M m ten .


1941. navigation charts of the St. Lawrence River and said he
took them off of boats in the yard and -would try to get
more. He said he had been to see E3LING on 33rd Street
but he would not come up to SEBOID's office as he is
frightened.

May 8, Radio Message #257 sent to Germany, incorporating


1941. information on ships and noted as from LEO.

May 12, LSO T/AALEN came to SEBOLD's office and stated STIGLER
1941. had been to see BROKHOFF. He again asked for a pair of
high powered glasses. He said BBLMG had no direct
connection -with Germany and had -worked only for FEHSE;
that STADE was introduced into this -work by EICHENLAUB.
He turned over f/ritten information to be sent to Germany
including oil tankers being constructed in various ship-
yards, for the United States Marine Commission and other
companies, as well as other ships for the U, S. Navyj
also five sea charts 5f the North Atlantic United States
sea coast, etc.,

May 14, SEBOLD received a letter from T&ALJSN to meet him the
1941. next night at the Zum Schwarzen Adler.

May 15, SEBpLTJ.net WAALKN and he took him to the Little Casino
1941. or ElCKENLAUB's place on 85th Street, New York City, where
he introduced him to RISHAR^^KHMLAUB and EICHENLAUB told
e L n d i LS and e r
SEBOLD about STADE and H H I H f l B ~ " ^ i :
combined activities. "JfAALEN also gave SEBOLD some written
information on a couple of ships to sail to meet convoys.

May 18, Radio Message #264 was sent to Germany.advising that


1941. LEO had obtained sea charts of the St. Lawrence, and -would
try to get more and asking how they wanted this sent. Also
#267 advising that LEO wants a powerful field glass to use
in observing ships in New York harbor and asked whether to
give him money for this purpose.
to'M*.
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t
May 19, . . W . AALEM came to SEBOID.'s office. Herald FEHSE was making
1941. canvas for the United Stated"iNavyj in* i
that BROKHOFF had received < l e t t e r f
she didn't know-he'Tfas in prison. WAALEN turned over more
written information to be sent to Germany, including, shipping
information, information about ship construction work for the
United States Navy, Army and Coast Guard, s sea chart of the
Florida coast, e t c . ,

Lay 23, Radio message. #14.5 was received directing that money b&
1941. paid to LEO for field glasses. .
; Radio message #276 "was cent to Germany containing
information on ship movement and itvras indicated as being ;
from LEO.

May 24, Radio message ;f277 was sent to Germany, indicated from
1941. '. and contained information concerning ship movement.

May 27, WAALEN cane to SEBOLD's office and SE3OLD told him he
1941. had been authorized by Germany Lo give him money to buy a
pair of field glasses, and asked how uuch he granted. He said
about $100.00. SEBOLD agreed to give him t h i e on his next
v i s i t , Friday, May 30th. WAAlEN turned over more written
information to be sent to Germany consisting of shipyard'
construction "work for the United States Navy and seven more
sea charts of area's along the Atlantic coast of the United
States,. ' -

May .29, " R a d i o message'#281 sent -from. EEO andconcyerneid the .


1941. ' sailing of American ships," SYJRJJS for Capetown, and EXHIBITOR
-:" f o r I n d i a . .'' ' -'"' ' . '.-""--." " . ' *>

May 30, Radio messages #282 and #283 sent which are a continuation 1 ;/
of #281 and concerns the American ships EXMOT/TH and CITY OF
ITEf I0RK sailing- from the United s t a t e s ' to Soutfc 'Africa knd-. ,'-"
"the Persian Gulf. LEX) WAALEN also came to SEBOID's office \ '
.and SE30TD gave hie* a $100.00 bill..to purchase a pair.pf;:-
field glasses with. WAALEM gave' 5E30LD more T ^ i t t e n l j E i f b5 v
to be sent to Germany consisting of ,infonaation concerning'the*' "'
sailing of American". Ships 'from- the United .States.- One -.iterir b'e'ars._
the notation,. (*from, EBELI^G" >, and WAAiaf-pointed out' ; ihis. it^a'/
to SEBOLD..' Hejitated &ELt?53 .was .afraid to. dti"ariythlng on accoWt
of- his vdfe. . \ , '. ' ..' "_t , ' ; ~ r ! '? " ' ' ' - " * '
VEC:MAM

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June A, WAAIEN came to SEBOLD's office and handed SEBOLD a


1941* typewritten report containing information on one hundred
and forty 3hips to be built in the United States and the
name of the ship yards; also information concerning the
U. S. Nary giving a contract to build dry docks in
Charleston, S. Carolinai also other information on ships
to be built for the U # S. Navy. He also gave SEBOID five
sea charts covering areas along the East coast of the
United States and Canada.
WAALEN also said CLAUSING was in toim, and told of
being over to EICHENLAUB'S a couple of days before -where
he met BANTE and EBELIKG. BANTE was bragging about
himself. WAALEN said he had lost track

June 5, CLAUSING while in SEBOLD'S office stated that LEO


1941* WAALEN gets most of his information from EBELING.

?j Radio Message #290 was sent to Germany as,

From Leo* Following American Ships: Jim


Davis, leaves N.T. on June 10 for Sidney,
Australia, Florence Luchenbach arrived in
M
Basra from New Tork on May nine
Radio Message #291 was also sent

Regarding message one four five. Have


received still more sea charts of the
East coast from Leo. How shall I send these.

June 9, Radio Message #292 was sent to Germany-


19O.
Have g i v e n ^ m ^ further one four micros
as well four publications and two pieces
of rubber from Dunn, Carlos and Leo. n
VECtMAM

WAALM

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16, T&ALEN visited SEBOIDS office and stated he was not


1941. going to buy the field glasses for $100. as the ships had
their names painted over. He stated he was going to stay
away from EICHENLATJB'S place. He gave SEBOLD soae type-
written information concerning the Navy Department opening
bids for thirtj-two Harbor tugs etc., and six sea charts
of East coast of the United States.

June 23, TCAALEN came to SEBOUHs office and gave SEBOLD five
1941* sea charts of the East Coast of the United States and the
St Lawerence.
WAALEN said he had recently seen EBELING but had no
information from him.
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Leo Waalen

June 27> On June 27, 1941 a warrant "was issued for


1941* the arrest of LEO WAAIM, by United States Commissioner
MAETIW C. EPSTEIN, Eastern District of New York,
Brooklyn, NI. This warrant was issued as the result
of & complaint sworn to by Assistant Director B J.
Cojmelley, charging him and named defendants with conspir-
acy to violate Sections 32 and 34, of Title 50, United
States Code.

At about 12:10
Ement
Jecond Avenue, New York, N>Y*
present at the time. He signed a waiver or search, and a
search of the apartment was made by Agents]
LEO WAJLLEN was then brought to the New York
Bureau office, TJ S. Court House Building, Foley Square,
New York City, where he was questioned and gave the
following signed statementt
New York, New York
June 29, 1 9 U

Leo Tfaalen, make the following voluntary- statements to|


{.Special Agent, Federal Bureau of Investigation! U S. Department
Justice -with knowledge that I do not have to naketiie^and that they
may be used against me in court* I understand J H I H H H R t o be a Special
Agent because of credentials he has exhibited to me%. -
I was bora in the Free City of Danzig, December 7, 1907, the son
of KOHSTANTIN m C Z W S K I and SENESTI&E QJ^HONSKI both of whom are still
living and reside in Danzig. Germany. BOnHSCHULW,a 16. T have one

I have no sisters*
I first caice to t he ITnited States in September., 1927 on board
the SS Estonia, a vessel of the Baltic American Lines as a crew member
and arrived at the Port of New York. I was single at that time*
I remained in the United States until February, 1933 during -which
period I was employed by various firms union I do not recall presently;
however, during that time I was employed a rather lengthy period by .-
the Dawn Boat Corporation which is located at Clesson Point in Bronx,

In February of 1933 I returned to,ay parents* hojae.in Danzig


where I remained until the early part of August, 1937* Purtng this,
period, I worked at various places at ay trade of a painter including
work with my father and for myself. Shortly after the first of August,
1937 I decided to return to the United-States because I did not-like
conditions in my country, especially thai; -I did not want to be a-
member of any Party. So I sailed for* the Iftaited States on1*8 SS
President Harding arriving at the Port of New York on August 1b, 1V37
as a quota immigrant from Hamburg, Germany* Within a week "after ay . /
last arrival in New York I filed my first J^ra^'for American. ' :
naturalization through the Naturalization fow.of the United States
District Court for the Southern District of New York which was,. ..
located at '.Vashington and Christopher Streets# In this regard ""
I wish to state that cm arriving in^the United States the.first time -
I adopted the name of L&0 WAMEMandtav since gone under that name,
and I advised Inmigration officials of. ihaf adoption* '-"',

In the fall f 1938 I met 'at a Geraan restaurant


somewhere in the Yorkville section o. City. We began an
association which resulted in our marrxage at New York City on June 14,
19^9* In tne meantime, possibly during the fall of 193.9, ^y fi|6.':/
introduced me to one P&UL ,#EHSfi, whom she had known previously* -
However, I do not know. exactly the circumstances \inder wttLch they met*
However, the three of us later"formed a ratter close friendship
and in fact I permitted PAUL J E H S E to have a key to our'apartment-
and from time to time he msed. tne same during our absence and had
meals with us rather frequently* He never.paid us any board or room
but occasionally did give us a few dollars to offset the meals he
took there from time to time* -
As time went on, FEHSE began to tell me about conditions in
Germany aad from his comnersetioris anyone could see that he was very
pro**Germaa a nd iras interested in ho-sr the war was going. He knew that
I worked at Woods Yacht Basin at City Island,7N# YV From time .'to-time
he used to ask me about the construction work and repair work going on
there* On several occasions FEHSE asked if we were working on any.
United States Government contracts* I told him that we were not-at
that time but we hoped to because it would mean better wages for ine
and all the rest of us. In fact, all during this time I did not quite
understand just what JEKSE was doing but I thought it funny that he
kept asking me about the work that we were doing at Wotds Yacht Basin
which began to swiewhat arouse, nsy suspicions as time went on
Soaetijne during th :early part,of October as I now recall, PAUL
FEHSE came to my home accompanied by a man whom he introduced as FRANZ
STIGIER whoa he introduced to ay wife and myself, and a s l n w recall .
this-was the only tiae TRAKZ STICKER was at my home to the best of my
recoHection* FRfiNZ STIcaL^''st|^4Mtf<i\-1^^rfci. had a friends that;,'he
wantedtie-,to meet named HARRY SA1YSR and told me that he.was gbing to
write to SAWSERaodtell him about me atid^'hat I might* be able to give
SAWIER sometiel]?about boat constructions at my place of employment -
the Woods Yacht BasinV I do not know whether STIGIER wrote to this man.,
SAWYER r not, but I think he did because STIGIER told me to go to
Columbus Circle on a certain day and at a certain hour and .'to stand there
with a newspaper in my hand and that I would be approached;."' I do nt
recall the exact hour and day on which this took place but I do recall
that I did.not go the first time I was supposed to because I did not like
all this business and STIGIER spoke to me. about it later and made the final.
arrangements for me which resulted in my first meeting with this man
HARRY SA1YER a t Columbus Circle. On meeting this man SAWYER he told
me. he was from the- other side but I-cannot say that he told me this
on the occasion.of. our first meeting. I now recall that at this first
meeting I gave himsome material'for-'transmittal to his boss whoever "
that might be as I did not know and did not ask* I told SAWYER that I
knew PAUL FEHSE and FRANZ STIGIER, but until this time I had not done
anything of any importance*
' At about this time 'I began to realize what PAUL FEHSE and FRANZ
STIGLER were doing, but I did not know where they were sending their
inf-ormatioiu .' .... '.....
After I met the man SA1TER i began collecting my own information.
and giving it to EEHSE who I presume gave it to this man SAWYER* About
this tame FERSE told me that he was known to the other side as FINK and
in order to keep our "work separate that 1 should designate arjraiateriial
as FINK 1, FINK 2, etc, which I began to do shortly afterwards. I now
recall that sometime in January, 1941 I found an FBI Plant Protection
Manual in a waste paper can at the Woods Yacht Basin and the thought
ccurred to me that this -would be good material for SAWYER. I later took
this book and delivered it to SA1T2ER in person and he seemed to be
.well pleased with it. From then on I began to arrange my own meetings
with SAWIER by letter as about this time FEHSEwas talking about leaving
the country and going back to Germany* I v<-ant to state here that until
just a few weeks before FEHSE was actually supposed to leave
I.gave most of my material to FEHSS who handled it with SJWS15R* As
FEHSE was getting ready to leave he began to see less of me* .
After I learned of FEHSEtS arrest in New York I went to HARRY
SA/YER'S Office and told him I thought FEHSES arrest "stinks.,?1
After FEHSEfS arrest I began my own operations in collecting
shipping information which I most generally btained from the Marine
Sews and the Maritime activity report, newspaper clippings and pictures, ;
and Government bids sent to my employer all of which I turned over, in
person to SAWXER designating them with the name FTJJK followed by a-
numeral and the year ordinarily marked please forward to the address
of-'O.-.Re HOIT which address was furnished by FEHSE. I cannot recall
any particular information I aay have given to SAWYER because it was all
of a general character^ however, in recent weeks at SAWYERTS request
I had been paying particular attention to Naval construction for.the U S.
Navy all of which information.I obtained from the Marine News except
some blank forms to bid on GoTarnment contracts which I obtained from
my place of employment. ...

Sometime during the last of.May or. very early part of June, 1941' *
as I now recall I met HARRY SAWYER who told me tiat the other side wanted
some navigation charts that is he told me he wanted the charts and I
understood he intended to forward them on to some other person. -1 told him
that I thought I could get these for him as I knew I had a few of them
which I had collected from time to time during the course of jay employ-*
m e n W I later delivered these navigation charts to HARRY SAwTER in
person and as I now recall they total about,a dozen charts most of which
pertain to the St. Lawrence Rivar and the North Atlantic Seaboard, and
as a matter of fact I do not recall exactly to what sections they did
relate since I had been collecting them for three years or so* I just
happened to have these charts when"SAWYER asked me about them and
decided they were what he wanted* .. -

3-
From tine to time HARRI SAWYER asked me for ship information
which I told him I -was not in a'very good position to get because my
place is so far from the New York harbor j further, that I did not have
a boat and therefore had difficulty in. getting the names of different
vessels and t he cargoes t hey were loading*' I suggested to him that If
I had a pair oi' high porrered field glasses they would assist me, in
getting the information he wanted* SAWXRR said he did not have any money
but that fee was going to' get souse and that he -would see what could,
be done about getting me a pair M^ glasses* Later on he g&ve. me .
a oae hundred dollar bill i'or the purpose of buying high powered field
glasses to assist me. in my work* However, I never had any intentions
of buying field glasses or getting the names of any ships in the
harbor because I have no time from ay work for this and thei names
f the ships are all painted over anyway. I intended to return the
hundred dollars "to SAWYER at my next meeting with him which,was to be
on Wednesday, July 2, 1941 and the hundred dollar bill which SAWYER
gave me was in ray possession on the morning of June 29, 1941. I diet I
give SAWYER a receipt for this $100e0G This is the only sum of money ]
I ever received from any of these fellws although on one occasion
SAWYER offered me some money for expenses ifoich I refused. I never
at any time asked SAWYER or anyone else for money for what I was
doing.

During my association with PAUL PTSHSE and his friends I


a number of individuals who PAUL FEHSE introduced-to me* I did not
know these men before*' I do not recall ever.having met BLARTWIG
KLEISS. I recall that PAUL PEHSE introduced me to ALFRED E. BPOKHOFF
but I do not recall the time and circumstances xmder which we met. . .
I do recall that I attended a party at BROKHOFF*S home in West
New York, New Jersey during the early part of 1941 at which FEHSE who was
also present introduced me1 to HEINEICrl CLAUSING* I recall that once .
when PAUL FEHSB and myself visited HARRY SAWIER that HEINKECH CLAUSING . .V
accompanied us to the best of my recollecticfi.', I also recall that
FEHSE introduced me to CEORGSCHUH and following JEHSE'S arrest GEORG
SGHUH accompanied, me; on a visit to HARRY SAWYER'S at which time SCHUH
wrote out a message and gave it to SAWYER but I did not know what the
message contained* At this meeting I.recall that HARRY SAWYER had
asked me previously about obtaining telephone directories of English cities
and I mentioned to HARRY SAWYER that I was "not in a position to'get .
them* SAWYER suggested that MAX BLANK whom I had previously met one
time through PAUL iEHSE mi^ht be able to get the telephone directories
for him, SAWYER, and since he v.as so busy, SAWSERi asked me to contact
BLANK about getting the directories* J recall telephoning MAX BLANK,
who had worked for Westermann,Js Book Store in New York City front ,
SAWYER'S office telling him that SAWYER wanted him. to get these
telephone directories for'him*' As I now/recall* BLANK told me he
would see what he could do. CEORG SCHUH was present when I made this call*
V

X r e c a l l ia on of ay recent conversations iiitii HAHKX SAiEffiB


he was asking as about the oM connections* of PAHS* FJSBfe M&'-I&O /
thsy alght. be. ^ o M Ma that PAUL FSSm bad introduced a . to a asa
by tlse name of H U b t t t since I had on3y net this aan once and that
tiae through PATE, FEB5 I eouM not enlarge on the inifonattleo thsa.
Seithar do I know anything abotrt this indlridoal other than 7SMSE
had indicated that this J ^ ( l i < e d around Sew lork. * :v* , '
PAUL FEHSR also introduced me to a man named PADL BAM7B who was
a tool and die maker as I understood but other than ay association with
BANTE through FEBSS I don't know anything aboat him. .
About 4 or 5 wales afte* FEHSE *a arrested which wonld have been
about the l a s t of April, 1941, X a e t thla aan SASET SAiOSR ttptown at which
ttoe be lntrodneed ae t o * man naed EKSIN SXEHR* I told SAWIES that
ALFRED E. BRflKHOFF and HEINHICH CLABSDCG were -waiting to BM i^ieianing
SAWYER and myself. Shortly the an SIEOLER l e f t and SAWIEH and X then
went OTW %t Zua Scriwartaen idler tiftate^rarrt where we et IHOKHOFy >'.
aad CLATJSIKG. X introduced SAW1ER to BROIHOrF. *e did net I l i a t h i s
restaaratit so we decided-to go.over toiaCSHAKB lICHSSMtlH'IS ^laee
known as "The L i t t l e Casino* located on fi5th Street i n Sew Tcrk City*
After .arriving we talked aboat th war i d general and PADL FEBSS
being a r r e s t e d . During m i s g* together X ebserred BROKHOF? hand
9 J I Q | t V M M 0 i l*i.2-dd-t*mir>-iiMa% was In 4% and t t < % s $ / t * t f - I t
any thoagbt a BMKHOFF gave t h e information of M s own- frae w i l l as I
taew it#
X wish to state tbat in a l l ay eperaUona I have never farniahed
any information of any ty|w except to PAUL fiHSE and HARRY SAITSE*
I realist now and shortly after X began asair^Saag J^SJ? ^tiat X
was engaged i a sat*' hktSMtm that X had no t f ^ u ^ ? 4 o ^ i p l ' ^ $ v
aad that trom the tjpe of iaforaation FEBSB mated froa, l
knew that i t was hi Intention to use it' for the benefit of C f e y
because aewaa ^jr'owQaraaa* X wish .to state that I'mwgr.'isiA any
intentions of fomismijagrnxxfinformation direcly against the United
States bat rather X was anxions to famish iniawUon about Qpeat ,
Britain* this ares* doe t o t e faet that since X had no> been a party
mm In Qeraany prior to ay l a s t d partere for ttiB Tjaiiwsd States I was
eoaewhat is. load, graces with Germany because there everyone has to be
a party aaa to get anywhere* PATJI. PrlSK knew t l d # M discussed with
aa now to get bade into the good, graces of esrmajiy ai^'told ae trai' l a
assisting Ma i a getting aarlne and shipping info m&tion X would be
- doing faia and ayself a-fs^or.'^|>n.'WEmM *9*mn'~&&toiiF.p1JiHii a s i n
good graces with the Party in Oeraany so that i f I wanted to return X
could and likewise X would * doing ay aged parents a-fame because i t

>/.
would most likely keep Party pressure from being applied to them* As
a matter of fact PAUL FESSE made that suggestion to me*
Shortly after my associations with FEHSE X began to realize that
he no doubt had come to this country for the one purpose of getting
information to aid Germany. That is, about January, 1941 I began
to come tot&is conclusion.
I hereby acknowledge these statements as being true to the
best of my knowledge and belief by signing voluntarily on my part
without offer, promise, or Inducement of reward or otherwise each of
six sheets in the presence of witness** with knowledge t hat I do not
h a w to make them and that they can b used against me all after having
read this entire statement and stating that I understand and speak
the English language*

ISO MALES
WITNESSESI

Special Agent
'special Agent
Federal Bureau of Investigation
United. States Department of Justice
Hew Irk, *ew fork

tL,
VEC:MAM

65-1819
WAALEN

WAALEN was also shown copies of the various material he


turned over to SEBOID for transmission to Germany, which he ada&tted
and initialed soae of these* This was incorporated into a statement
but when it came to signing the statement WAALEN stated he could not
have turned over so much material and would not sign the statement*
The statement was dictated in his presence and is as follows:-
65-1819
New Toxic City, New York
June 29th., 1941.

QJ " I , LED WAAIEN, of my own f r e e w i O ^ n d a c c o r d , make the


following voluntary statements t o H H H | H H r f Special Agent,
\) Federal Bureau of Investigation, u^S^eparxiient of Justice, with
knowledge that I do not have to make the same and t h a t the same
1007 be used against me in Court.
*I have been shown a photographic copy of a l e t t e r which reads:
Will meet you on thursday okt 24 a t . 7 P.M. on Cirkle - Mews introduced
by Aufzig*. 1 wish to state that this i s the l e t t e r that I wrote to
the man HARRT SAHTER to arrange for my f i r s t meeting with him. In
agreement with this l e t t e r , I act Harry Sawyer as planned and de-
livered to him a copy of Standard Government Form of Bid No. 81 and
a copy of the Navy Department, Bureau of Supplies and Account, Washington,
D. C., dated August 19, 1940, both of which I obtained from my employer,
the Wood Yacht Basin, photographic copies of which have been shown to
me and which I recognize as being copies of original material vMch
I delivered to Barry Sawyer <m October 24, 1940- I hare identified
each of the above mentioned copies uj writing ay nan thereon together
with the date of June 29, 1941. (65-1819-1*31-1,6,4,5. All signed
by LEO WAAL3J.) .; .,.. ~ .
"I have been shown a photographic copy of a l e t t e r dated a t
New York 11-9-40 and reading 'Monday Nov. U 8 p.m. Cir. Leo 1 . This
i s a l e t t e r that was written i n ay own hand writing and sent to Barry
Sawyer. As requested, Barry Sawyer met me on November 11, 1941. At
t h i s time, I turned over to him, an item written i n my own hand
printing and dealing among other things, with ship constructions of
the American Car & Foundry Co., Wilmington, Bel. I also gave him a
bulletin dated November 1, 1940, Covering bids for boats, aircraft
recuse; and spare parts for the United States, identified as Schedule
#3681. I have been shown a photographic copy of the f i r s t two items
mentioned immediately above and a photostatic copy of the Schedule
#3681, which I recognize as being copies of the originals which I
turned over to Harry Sawyer. I have identified these as such by
signing my name and the date of June 29, 1941 thereto. (6$-1819-la31-
9, 11 and 65-1819-lal3-13. All signed by 1D WMIEM.)
B
I have been shown copies of numerous documents and other
materials bearing on various matters. I have identified the herein- ,
after listed natters as being items that I obtained and caused to be
turned over to Barry Sawyer, by placing my nane and the date of
June 29, 1941 thereon: .. - - - - . . '-'-- -

574
65-1S19
Letter dated New York, December 9, 1940. (65-1819-1&31-16* Signed
by IBDWAALEK.)
Item beginning 'The General Engineering tu Dry Dock Co. of Alaneda
Calif. (65-1819-1*31-23.. Not signed by LH) WAAIEN.)
A l e t t e r dated at New Tork, December 13, 1940. (65-1819-1*31-18.
Signed by LEO TSAfiLEN.)
An item in Geuaan beginning 'Dem Deutschen1, which I typed up for
PiDL FEHSE and caused to be forwarded to HARK? SA3TCER a t PAUL
FBISE'S REquest. (65-1819-la31-31. Not Signed by L&> WMLEN.)
An ite beginning Im N.Y. Hafen liegen', which is information
obtained by PADL FHISS and given to me for typing, and sub-
eeciient transraittal to HARRY SAWYER. (65-1819-1*31-33. Not
signed by LH3 WAALEN.)
An itaa beginning 'Ville De liege* with enclosure envelope, which
i s informtion furnished to me by PAUL FEHSE and which I typed
up and sent on to HARRY SAWYER a t his request. (65-1819-la31-
37 and 33. Not signed by LB3 1AALEN.)
A l e t t e r dated Hew York, Beceffiber 28, 1940 with envelope.
(65-1819-1*31-41. Not signed by LK) WAALEN.) .
A l e t t e r beginning 'Ville de Anvers1 with a second sheet beginning
'U.S.A.T. (United States Ara^y Transport', both sheets en-
closed in a l e t t e r addressed to 'HERRN A. GERHOFF1, which was
a l e t t e r given to me by PAUL FEHSE wiHi the request that I de-
liver same to HARRY SAWYER, which t did. (65-1819-1*31-43.
Not signed by LBD WAALSJ.)
A l e t t e r dated New York, January 7, 1941, sighed 'LEO'. (65-181-
U31-52. Not signed by LEO WAALEN.)
A typewritten report in German beginning, 'Report uber denwerlauf
der' and actually pertaining to motor-torpedo-Boote, which I
obtained from the Hotorboating Magazine and wrote up for de-
livery to HARRT SAWYER. (65-1819-1*31-54. Not signed by LEO
WAALM.)
i . . . . . . ' ; .
A report written in German and English beginning: 'The Navy De-
partment hat ungefahr 45 der 1 . (65-1819~la31-56. Not signed
by LED flAALai)

57-5
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VECtKAM

65-1819 WAALEN

TOLAIEN signed a permit allowing himself to be held in


custod7 by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He also signed a
waiver of removal hearing and a waiver peraittlng search of his
apartment. The following pertinent aaterial was foundj
1* On his person was a $100*00 Federal Reserve Note,
Serial No. B-03170642A, Series of 1934, which was
the note turned over to hi by SEBOID on May 30,
1941, with which to buy field glasses.
2. Three navigation charts of the R&ppahannock, lork
and Delaware Rivers.
3. One white sheet of paper containing writing in
German pertaining to telephone books and wax
materials from U.S.A. to Persian Gulf.
4 One Kappel Portable typewriter.
5 A three page Progress Report of the U.S Maritime
Conaission as of February 28, 1941* (On May 25*
1941 LEO WAALEN turned this over to SEBOLD and
requested its return, which SEBOID did. This
report bears the typing "Pink 27 41 Mr. Q. R. Hoff."
65-1819
"A l e t t e r dated January 20, 19$1, signed X. E. 0. with enclosure
envelope. (65-1819-l31-65 and 67. Not signed by LEO
A l e t t e r dated N.T. Jan. 25, 1941, otherwise -written in German,
signed Adr. L. E. 0. (65-1819-U31-69. Signed by LEG WAALM.)
A l e t t e r postmarked New York, February 1, 1941, addressed to H&EE2T
SASfYER, and oontaining a two page typewritten report, in German,1
the f i r s t sheet beginning 'THE Cris-Craft Corporation, e r j i e l t
and signed 'Fink 3'i the second page beginning 'Bel der
Consolidated Steel Corp.' and signed 'Fink 2 ' . (65-1819-la6-
65,67, 66. Not signed by LSD WAALES*.)
A l e t t e r postmarked February 8, 1941, addressed to HARE! SAWTER,
enclosing a tno page typed report* The f i r s t page beginning
Die U. S. Navy hat die 1 and signed 'Fink 4 1941 1 , the second
page beginning 'Die Marietta Manufacturing Co.' and signed
'Fink 5 1941'. (65-1819-la6-75, 77, 79. Not signed by LEO
W1ALIN.)
A l e t t e r dated February 24, 1941 signed 'L.E. O.1 with enclosure
envelope. (65-1819-la31-73. Not signed by LEO ifAAIEN;) '
k l e t t e r typewritten in German beginning 'Bericht uber die b e i '
with enclosure envelope, the l e t t e r signed 'Fink 9 2 . 3 . 1941*
(65-lS19-la31-75. Not signed by LSD WAALM.)
A report of three pages typewritten, the f i r s t beginning:
'Aufstellung uber1 in Bail1, the second beginning, Aufstellung'
e t c . , "Fletcher , the third page beginning ^Aufstellung', etc.
'North Carolina. (65-1819-la3l-86. Not signedby LEO WAALEN.)
A report headed 'Fink 17* and beginning'.Die U. S. Navy h a t ' .
(45-1819-la31-39. Not signed by ISO 1AAIEN.) ; : : . .
A report headed 'Die Am. Export lane 1 and signed fFink 17 G. R.
Hoff. (65-1819-1*31-101. Not signed by LEO 1AALEN.)
A magazine clipping of a vessel entitled: 'A Modern way of trans-
porting loaded railroad cars ' . (65-1819-1*31-99. Not
s i g n e d b y LEO WAALEK.) , -.,

A newspaper clipping a a t i t l e d : '68 Alien Crafts Taken Over by


United S t a t e s are Tabulated by P o r t s . 1 This item delivered
to H/L8E? SAWZEE on April 32, 1941 by LK) WAALM who was accom-
panied by GEOHG SCHUH. (6^-1819-la31-98. Not signed by LEO WAALEN.)*

576
9
65-1819
"A two page typed report,
1
the f i r s t page beginning 'Namen der 1m1,
'Atlanta , the secondpage beginning 'Namen der is*',
North Carolina, both pages signed 'Fink 18 a. R. Haff.
(65-1819-1*31-95. Not signed by LEO WAALEN.)
f
A two page typed report beginning 'Verkauffe Xachten
1
and ending
on the second page 'Fink 18 1941 MR. G. r . HOFF . (65-1819-
1*31-136. Not signed by LSO WAALEN.)
A one page typed report beginning f 4 der nauen Am. Frachter 1 and
signed 'Pink 19 1941 Mr. G. R. Hoff. (65-1819-1*31-103.
Not signed by LEO TSMLM.)
A one page typed report in Gennan beginning fEs herscht grosger 1
and signed 'Fink 22 1941 G. R. HOFF1. (65-1819-la31-109.
Not signed by LED WAALUI.)
A one page typed r^jort i n German beginning, 'Die Albina Engine'
and signed 'L. E. 0. G. R. Hoff. 1941' (65-1819-1*31-128. Not
signed by LK) WAALEN.)
A l e t t e r dated June 13, 1941 "with enclosure envelope addressed to
Mr. HAERT SAHER. (65-1819-1*31-148. Not signed by LEO WAALEH.)
A receipt for 100.00 signed L. WaALEN, dated Usy 30, 1941*
(65-1819-1*31-130. Not signed by LBD WAAIEN.)

"I wish, to state that I never had any connection, directly


or otherwise, with any individuals outside of the State of New York
and nearby New Jersey^^Mmow nothing *bout anyone by the name of
G. E. HOFF, G E H H O F F ^ m m As a matter of fact I cannot r e -
call t h a t PNJL FHISE ever mentioned any such names to me, but I
understood from him t h a t he had a 'boss 1 that he was working under
but other than that I know nothing about the setup. He never told
me Just who he was working for but naturally he was working for
Germany because he was very Pro-German and was always talking about
it.
"I have been asked about a man > e d m | o r some such
name, about -whom HAHHT SAWYER asked me i f I knew. I do not know
any such person and can not r e c a l l t h a t PAUL FffiSE ever spoke of
such a person.

-577
65-1819

_know a man named]


__|lives somewhere in New Rochelle, New loin.,
and who was also bom i n Danzig, Germany, where I was born. In
the past, I have seen t h i s man a few times a t different places
and had a glass or two of beer with him. That i s about a l l that
I know about him. I can not r e c a l l that I ever mentdonSd that man's
name to any one and I have not seen or heard of him for two month*
or more. If he i s mixed up i n the 'business' I never heard any-
thing t o that effect.
n
I have stated previously that I do not own a typewriter.
That i s not correct for I do own one, a Kappel Portable Typewriter,
which i s of German Manufacture. I used t h i s machine to type some
of my items which were delivered to HARKX SASXER but for the most
part, P&JL FSiSS used i t . I have never used any other machine for
that puapose. About five or six weeks ago, I decided I would not
use t h i s machine any more and thought the best .thin* +" rfn ** to
get rid of i t for a while so.
ment, which i s lo_caj
do not knew -what ^^^^W55c^^L55re5s"Tg""or''wh'ere he works but
I can find his apa
this business and has had no part In
H
I acknowledge these statements as being, made freely and
voluntarily without fear, force, offer or promise of reward, by
signing my name t o each of four (4) sheets in the presence of
witnesses, a l l after having read the entire statement myself and
having the same read to me. I wish to state that I read, write
and understand the English language.

Special Agents,
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
U. S. Department of Justice,
New York City, New York.

578
w VECsMAM

65-1819 WAALEN

PAUL BANTE in his statement dated June 29, 1941, on Page


3, states:-

About three months ago GEORGE SCHUH told me about HARRT.


He said that HARRI had a radio and could comnunicate with Germany
and was able to send messages to Germany. LEO also told me about
this sender and I knew that it must be a secret. "
On Page 5, BANTE states, "LEO told me that HARRY had
been -working -with PETER for about a year and was O.K." (PETER i
FEHSE.)

ALFRED BROKHOFF in his statement dated June 29. 1941, on


Page 2, states:

the arrest of PAUL FESSfi, I furnished soa


information to LEO VAALEN. He -would ask me about ships loading
at the piers of the United States lines and I would tell him what
ships were loading and approximately when they would leave. I
never prepared any reports for LEO WAALEN, but whenever I cane
over to Hew York, I went over to see him and he would ask for
this information. "
BROKHOFF on Page 3, in tiseussing talking to FEHSE after
his arrest states,

By the movements he made with his lips, I figured he wanted


me to tell WAALEN to get rid of the typewriter which, he, FEHSE
had used. I later got in touch with WAALEN and told him to get rid
of the typewriter. He later told me he had left it with some one,
but I don't know who he left it with."
ewriter was obtained fro;
nx, New Yor

RUDOLF EBELDJQ in bis statement dated June 29, 1941, Page


4, states, Fehse introduced him to WAALEN in the Franz Si gel Tavern
about January 1940 and he sew him about five tines after that*..the
last time being about May 1941 in the same tavern. He stated he also
on one occasion went to EICHENLaUB'S with him.
VECrMAM

65-1819 WAALEN (Cont'd)

PAUL FE3SE in his statment dated June 29, 1941, on Page


6, tells of using WAAXEN*starpewr^ertp prepare his letter of
March 1940 addressed to flflflHHHHf On Page 9 he tells of
using HMLENs typewriter^o^ype^H5te dated July 15, 1940,
setting out information concerning U. S. Navy speed boats. On
Page 10, he states he told WAALEN what he was doing and took him
to meet FRANZ STIGLER; also that WAALEN had given the message
received from HARRY to return to Germany. He also stated he gave
WAALEN material to deliver to HARRY.
FEHSE further stated ttiat his understanding with WAALEN
was that he, FEHSE, would sign material Fink -while WAALBN would
sign "Fink" with a number after it, such as Fink 1, 2, etc., He
also stated often times he typed up his reports and gave them to
WAALEN to mail or deliver to HARRY SAWYER, or he gave long hand
reports to him and he, WAALEN, typed them up.

GEORGE SCHOH in his statement, dated June 29, 1941, Page


2, states that he was introduced to LEO by WALTER (FEHSE) and was
later taken by LEO to SEBOLD'S office in order to contact Germany
to get an entering permit for his wife to enter Germany.

RICHARD EICHENLAUB in his statement dated June 30, 1941,


on Page 2 and 3 states that he was introduced to WAAIEN by FEHSE;
that subsequently LEO told him of FEHSE* s arrest and said PETE
(FEHSE) and HARRY worked together. He later brought HARRY to his,
ECCHENLADB'S, place of business where he met him.

FRASZ STIGLER in his statement dated June 27. 1941, Page


16, states he arranged for LEO WAALEN to meet HARRY SAWYER and sent
a letter to SAWYER describing WAALEN and giving the time and place
to meet him, and that he knew the transactions which WAALEN and
SEBOIB would have together would be illegal and thus the method
U3ed in having them meet.
7C:1UM

65-1819 WAALEN

LEO WAALEN'S joint savings account with his wife, at the Manhattan
Savings Institute, 154 East 86th Street, Hew York City, was checked
but no entries of a suspicious nature were noted. The account
a balance of $86l00. on June 30. 1941, and had been changed to

(Serial 8549)

A notation in the account indicated 1AALEN and his wife


had had domestic trouble andonNovesjber25|1940, $1,600 was
withdrawn from the accoixntflHHHHHHHHRjovember 27, 1940,
filed a claim against the b S t ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
VECtMAM

WAALEN

WJLALEN fras arraigned before United States Coan&ssioner,


Martin C. Epstein, Brooklyn, New York, on June 30, 1941, and entered
a plea of guilty. His bail was set at $25,000. in lieu of which he
was remanded to custody pending action of the Federal Grand Jury.
On July 15, 1941, the Federal Grand Jury for the Eastern
District of New lork, returned an indictment charging LEO WftALEN,
with aliases, and other named defendants with conspiracy in two counts,
to violate Sections 233 of Title 22 and Section 32 of Title 50, United
States Code.
WAALEN was arraigned on July 18, 1941, before the United
States District Court for the Eastern District of New lork and plead
not guilty. His bail was continued at $25,000 in lieu of Tiiich he
was remanded to custody pending t r i a l set to begin September 3,
1941.
v.v/

65-1819

DESCRIPTION*

NAME LEO TTAALEN (adopted name)


LEO HCZYKSKI ( B i r t h name)
Age 34 (1941)
Born Free City of Danzig (now Germany)
December 7, 1907
Height 5* 9"
Weight 135 lbs.
Build Slender -> wiry
Hair Dark brown, straight
lyes Brown
Complexion Ruddy, sun tanner
Teeth good
Glasses Reading - near sighted
Residence 1530 Second Avenue, N.I.C.
Occupation Painter; ffood Tacht Basin,
City Island, N.I.
Marital Status Married (1939 at N.T.C.)
He

Naturalization Filed 1st papers. N.T.C. in 1939


&a LEO WAALEN
Race
Nationality German
Photo In New fork File
Fingerprints and
Palmprints Obtained and forwarded to Bureau
Handwriting
Specimens Obtained and forwarded to Bureau
Criminal Record Letter dated 6/30/41 from Bureau
advised, none known. '
65-1819

TffETNESS CLASSIFICATION

ADOLF HENRY AUGUST WALISCHEW5KI

1. Immigration and N a t u r a l i z a t i o n

C l e r k , Common P l e a s Court, J e r s e y C i t y , New J e r s e y

2 Espionage A c t i v i t i e s - Known or P o s s i b l e

William Sebold
6/30/a

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence

4. Microphone Surveillance - (Admissibility Questionable)

5 Employment Record
U.S. Lines,
e-Mc Cormark Lines,
U.S.S. Lines.

6* History and Prior Activities


FEC:AB

65-1819

BE: ADOLF HENRY AUGUST WALISCHEWSKT


utith aliases, Waschlefsky,
Kcwalsky, Schlawatsky

Address: Steward, S.S. Uruguay

On February 10, 1941, FEHSE told WILLIAM SEBOLD that


he knows a Steward on the S.S. Washington -with a name like WALCHEFSKY.
FEI-ISE thought WALCHEFSKY might be a recruit;.

(Serial 6501, Page 4)

On February 19, 1941, FEHSE told SEBOLD that he had


recommended WALISCHEWSKI to Gerhoff in Germany} that the man had been
checked and found to be satisfactory, mainly because he has two sons
in the German army. FBHSE said WALISCHEWSKI used to do messenger
work to Genoa but has not been seen lately.

(Serial 6643, Page 3)

On February 25, 1941, FEHSE told SEBOLD the name REUPER


had been given to him by WALISCHEWSKI* ' '

(Serial 6648, Page 2)

It is SKI is ADOLF HENRY AUGUST


WALISCHEWSKI who

WALISCHMSKI is a Steward on the S.S. Uruguay on the


South American runs. He -was "born on August 20, 1890 at Brake, Germany.
He tms naturalized as an American citizen In Jersey City, Sew Jersey,
on April 12, 1935, receiving Certificate of naturalization #3898481.

(Serial 6643, Page S)'


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ADOXF HSNRT AUGSJSf WALISCHEBSKI, with aliases!


lalschefsky, Kowalsky, Schlawatsfey*
Address: Steward on S.S. UEDOOAT, of iii*
Moore-McCormack lines.

The recorde of the Imal ration and 8atarali*ation


Service, Newark, Hew Jersey, Tti* $ZL9A P 66947, reflect that ADOI*
WALISCHEBSKI was born at Oldenburg, Qermarry, loiguat 20, 1890 and is
of the German race. He issodgrEted to the Tjnited States from Breaer-
haven, Germany, under quota visa #14504 issued at Breaen, Gemaay,
Jamuary 8, 1929, entering the Port of Hew Xork on Febrtt*ry-4> 1929
on the SS, GWB8& WASHINGTON. He filed a Declaration of Intwatlon
to become a United States citizen on October 1, 1932 at Jersey City,
Neir Jersey. His Petition for Citiaenahip based oh sea service was
filed April 1, 1935. He -was naturalised in the Cotsrt of Common Pleas,
V) Jersey City, New Jersey, December 4* 1935, receiving Certificate,of
Naturalization #3,898,^
he had a wife

(Serial 5396, page 8)


He became a subject in this case as a result of the
foUowLng factst-
June 25, 1940.
, In & conversation between SIEGtER and SEBOLD .with
relation to getting certain aaterials across, in that there was
a possibility thai the S.S. HAHHATTMj on which Siegler wa -working,
would not jaake any acre trips, Siegler stated that if the S. S,
WASHH8JT0H leaves Port, he sdght be able to get them across with
a iaesBener on that boat. He said "this messenger carries things
for the other side) that he was a bedroom steward and as best
recollected by Siegler his name was KOTALSET or SCHLUULTSKT.
February 10, 1941* '
PAJJL FEHSE during a conversation with TIILLIAU SEBOLD
in Sebold's office asked Sebold if he knew a Steward on the S.S.
WASHINGTON, whose name he mentioned, which as Sebold recalled
sounded similar to WALSCHEFSKT.
; (Serial 6501, j>age 4) ^
February 19, 1941. , "" " -':';:^lir;
FEHSE, in response to a question frora. SSBOJJD as to
BSHBal

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what kind of a fellow is WALISCHEWSET, stated that he is an elderly


gentleman, a very large man, served in the last war, and was on the
WASHJiKJfONj that be, FBHSI, learned of him through soaae friends and
went to see hist. He recommended h<TP to the other side and then he,
Fehse, received a letter from them (Germany) instructing him to
tell WALISCHE^KI of hi obligations andtiiathe was recommended to
be an associate of the Comaodore and had been selected to transmit
messages. He stated that he, WALISCHERSUj acted as a messenger to
Genoa.
(Serial 6643, pages 3 and 30)
February 25, 1 9 4 U
FEHSE, while talking to SEBOJfl in his office asked if
he knew a man by the name of RBfJPgR in New Xorkj that lie had met him
through EICHEKLADB, etc, SE30LD said he had met Reuper through SIEGLSl
and STIOLES. Fahse said that he learned through WJLISGHKW5KI that
REDPM came froa Oematry and that he had connections and asked him why
he didn't call on Reaper. He then went to see Reuper at his home and
extended to him the greetings of WALISCHEBSiH, and REUFEE told him
that he had been in ueimarry, etc Fehse then stated that
WALISCHS85KI is on the UHuGUAI and had just- left*
FEHSE then asked if he, SEBOLD, knew HILL, believed to
be a contact of Reuperfe. Thla information, he said, he also received
from WALISCHEiraH.
(Serial 6648, pages 2,13,19)

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From a confidential source information -was obtained that


WALISCHESSKI -was a Bund member and a member of the inner group, known
as something similar to the Workmen's Group, and which meets on 85tb
Street, New Tork Cityj that Walisehewakl while a Bedroom Steward on
the SS WASHINGTON had solicited the crew members to join the Bund,
He -was discharged from the SS WASHINGKSH as a result of his actions,
when the ship was stopped by a German subaarine.
(Serial 3111, page 23)
His employment record is as follows t
From his Affidavit for Petition for Citizenship,
based on sea service, which was dated April 1, 1935, he alleged that
he had served on the folloising vessels i
From to
SS President Roosevelt 2714/31 2727/31
SS America 4/7/31 9/5/31
SS President Roosevelt 9/L2/31
1/5/32 7/15/32
SS Manhattan 8/10/32 5/13/32
SS Columbia 6/20/33 10/2/33
S3 Haiti IOAO/33 5/7/34
SS President Harding 5/W34 IO/26/34
SS Haiti 10/30/34 3/30/35
(Serial 5396, page 8)
He was employed by the United States Lines during the
periods indicated belowi '
Prom 2/4/29 To 4/L1/33
4/16/34 10/26/34
He was eB5>loyed by the Columbian Steamship Idnes, New
York City during the periods indicated "belowj
From 6/20/33 To 5/7/34
11/30/34 12/l

(Serial 7507, pages 6 and 7)


s -4*

Tim foaming descriptive daU appears to have


obtained frac the rasords of Ilatta-alisation aM iras gemral data
in the fU*t
NAJIE

HEI'lHT

RAXR
KTSS
CWKJ1I08
KK8IKSK5S

StaWS

B&tio

nmsmsm fron Seaman *s resaxnd


kncnm " /

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65-1619

Adolf Walischenrski

June 27, On June 27, 1941, a warrant rras issued for


1941* the arrest of ADOLF HENRY AUGUST miISCHERSKI> by
United States Commissioner MfcRTIN C. EPSTEIN, Eastern
District of New York, Brooklyn, NY* This warrant was
issued as the result of a complaint sworn to by Assistant
Director E. J. Connelley, charging him and named defend-
ants with conspiracy to violate Sections 32 and 34, of
Title 50, United States Code,
June 30,
1941.
boarded the S.S.
IUGUAY from a U S. off
ofJ Sanely Hook, N. J.
?. AUSGHEW5KI report placed
under arrest by the above Agents.
He was accompanied to his quarters, and a
search iras made of his person and quarters on "D" Deck,
Room 6. Walischewski was taken from the S.S. URUGUAY
about 8:36 AM. and placed aboard the Coast Guard Cutter
which docked at Pier AW about 10:10 A.M. He was then
brought to the New York office, questioned, and gave the
following signed statement:**
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t*ly aad O^aoa, Italj to lott City, -Mh <*? abrot


' * 4Hft ^BlPPSi^^pP^lSSS^BSjJi^aJBJPPP*r fl^P^P^Fmpf i^pmjp^pp^pMi ^mvppwmjePk^PWv ^P^'^^PP^ mw^^^ ' M m

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ^ ^

^t^i iMtt t#ini S# iMMI iMl JBV% SBf'iMtMta

4% i f
hi oo* if hia in
ia a lurgc bxwHk w l f >
trine. X took . Iok i tkt
Lifo*. 1rn1a MHisMiMMi* and s.
IMU pwk*. bad a
n.
*&**

trip* a sa * * * lpa#j^_|te tMp i Qaao*, Italy sw! lpid"f0r *y^


MpjSJpmif S7 iflp ^BASJr ^P Awmi^apjp aVJSMrSjv ^PHjBJ ^^PPSWPP"*" 1 ^ ^SppJBF 4^a|B> jSv ^PSPap* ^pVSajjB ^PPWfll^MH^ j^fvS'vPSpP JpW^^^w ^9l^W**a^w i^f

* Mm. M p f c c k f . l did at gjlw pn itti. -WMQT. fia fa as his


bat I S* frgtta i * # V . ' ; ^ *$\- >-' :.^.:?<>> .'^' - - -
On w aJsont Mivti 4 X9>Of a. 3^%11/t ItfflwHr XXWi ti- p . % tcKf>

sod 10th
0ia, Italy, ac4 told h i . that I M. .
jPS4HW^p^ JMKAP^ ^Wpfc, w^flmsBr Sjpsssjupjp apavlBffSjB^- ^Kpsp ^^vsxHp4P'PVnpP''P B av^v 1 apppp ^^ MPSP^SV 9H^MPHM.W^^^P"JPHS> ^PFPJP* ^p^ppar ^H^ap^pr ^ p / ,

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^^ p** """^P^ P S P ^ P / ^ P ^ P *

** 4. t wiytTiiit tlniiiii iMt nittrti m ttotnM


d^ltM twee*** I * Ht> M M w l i i H M i l / n i ) ] r . - *
m tJ* mttotmk ot Wm tMMnftoa in Ca*, It*ljr on ttii. .
XrLp, the MI* M& Mt*., ta X O&fcfKrtd tbi* package to his Xr

Ca or about ipril 1, 194# 1 *#*ia ** *** *


Stawtt ax4 19th A*ww, W t l y *fto* f&p* j>. * At ihi Una,
F * ! & & b * * * a o t h r p M l u w r r * U S l a 3 r to H i t ***** t I b i d
H'ranKl f w &lii ' Tfrlt MMffcac*-' ljtoHl' TtnB.^i>liwt witattfuitj md MP>IB>
vH^ 1 *^ "'JBPJ* * ^pJ^pflP'^F mm vjPSjSSJp 4Pjp"J^^J|PSJwflp|Hp]|NS|PSjmtt8f "'(Plp'JK^P^'NpVS'S^^' ^S'^BJp^pi^W ^Qppl^Sr a B r SjpWff'V"** r ^^^ v

Irtttr t **I1 to Ms wif -Is -ibarg, fenway. ** thl* U < .


*T. w ut AolUx, MaA told e to i*liw tilt trll
tit* aa in. 4iao*v, I t a l j . - Upoa to* *rriwl' of Ox*,
la trip, UM SM wa to ksH*X
Mt a* tAla M* X ft*t Ida

'UK or <&** April 39, 1^0, I <*ia ** H&


fld lOtb A**IM*. At fid* Uwi i told hia to
ooaor* }MAU** for

1941. ite M i m ** 5 ;

M ha4 SAt AMU Ml


SSIBMI m ^

*JP1D f fib*
iis Hm 7mfc *rl ia Ji of 1940, 1 fcad
ttm ftctlmn tlw 3S.-lnsM*ti i a
i f
1 told ki* Uiat 1 * aid Uut utiso h IM^ ltt*ar Jfr,
he ns^UI psl, m* m th I told isia tbmt b* *tesld
'9 9
Oa or aixmt April 1, 1940, I ** **4 m&W in tfeo
Torainal noUl. l S m g** * Oft* !%%* * I* U4 i n $*&*
I t a l y , ufaleii l t t . r u a******** to * BJt*"**Ji Br, Germany.
I t LUO gv aw a packa*. f ahoa addroaaod to * lady 4p Mbttif, ^
Urm*ny. I do sot koaw W attoa itbr of fete** ** a?idrsad.
S i at
letter &nd thi p*ckag of la 0ca
Italy.
On r bout ?, 1940, I .ill
'Xerin*i botl. gve ont l e t t e r as JdTa Is
for
whan the *hii^ton arrival in Grtaa, I-Uly R.^dLs t r i p .
Oft or .bout lay 2S, 1940 I sgaifl t i t B m 1*> tb Trinl
tvt 23rd t**#t aad lctii ATnu, l w Tort City, btxt a t thi tie
he aid not bT ay l e t t e r , or aything to take te G*o, Italy.
in ^uft,,l%0, X was
vi Y did not Mil. agaia imtil 2 ft4fd oa tto 5S Vra(rMy, about
the l t Q r AtifMt, 1940. mriac thl* U K , J tUy*l ia1 1 Tort
and N*m Hr**r* M U I a l a w off, I Bt t SXW" * %
t^iiee. I toW WSVP&R H M | H M H , 1 M 7 9^yd a th Washington
He ssted M to* * eould t t ltUr to tk otlMMT U i f I WM not
o th boat*. 2 told RSDm tiwt I did not know iw l ** geiag U
ft hi lttUra to OOuoa, I t a l y . . -
Shortly ftr t hipp^l on the 5S Urg*y, I *at t call on
*% hi* *iidT*M, *ic 2 ktOitY* wa* on?Mt 116th ftrvtt* in
I va told at hi* ho*a that h* had K>TO*. A mmm
at U fonaor a<idrM toW M tkat f.lDrSit had a**** to
or iortfei Sorfoa, !* 4r
war !* airtrili t*o M U f M M Xo**td Vmi I
aigr ffrt to oniaot HJTOPE8 a t hi |. ' g
o by the worn** mt SEBPIR old addra* imp ti o e * l latr pnre
i a tta adddle of Karch,
% atato tfeat t i l e r X ahlo** <m tfe ss
did not earry aay ^ekfo or Material for aayoao.

Aa naarly X e m r ber, early in UarcJj, l<5i0, a l l th


t Uttara or alip* *itljr
or tho at th tio tkoy *ift>M! up.
alipa adTiad tkat nyooo too any l t t n or ^*ekag o .
tba Mf wlti g*t fiTO yor
Fg U

*ffc*r UU|. vi&M noUct, J cwrU*


fT CARL REBPER. tad fee pack.g** f # # fACL S *** i w <*if
is

t mitfc to at*** farter tiutt t #j*mA mm -of tha Itttoi* vfetefe


X ear**** for C/FJ. F.STJr'tr. IfcHsllarv.i t was 4fc# lottr which I eftxf&p*
for MA oft or about ipril 1 , 1940. 1 beli*v i t *w tfe eeeond Uat
l t t t e r , I ei not eerUtc .boat t h i . I # yajawJifr thfct ti U t U r ,
i^ii.tfh tMS VTl.t,tAxi i n tJemnfifi. v^'tt&> WQa^tt* ^ e l f t , 1 i t ftiwy m i l *
and i aope you &r* too. Send * l i t t o r . " This BOM owndort fwrjr
fooliftk to *, feiat Z ihougnt pr**p i t h*& eoertt ritif or
of tht sort on i t , bat I didn't km*, and 1 did not Jt^ rot
OR it

of t l d s iatlTldQtl. As nearly IW"! ' 4ieribt WL 1


jfojrty or forty-two jrowm of a e , fivo foot nlat iae^ t a l l t
oso iMffidbPOot BiAotv %tt to liaiidvod' ooaaio. ttooacv build* tiLtttAt kair*
in full f#ce. 1b 'aa pjo4Uro4 i Oomaft* aM .PFI
Goraaa and Italian.
.1 ** r*d ttoe aboro statonmt of JTour typowrlitoa
ollctlaB. 1 tigfi tldUi statittoet liy on tfc Isst

SpocUl f 4*rl
i'.
of

pcil 4goat
of lQ8tifit3U>n, U. 3* Dopt.
of Jtuitieo.''-;

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65-1819

WALISCHEKSKI

"SALISCHEWSKI in an interview on July 7, 1941, by Assistant


States _Attoraey VINCENT QUINN, in the presence of Special Agent
K) "'stated that everything in his statement was true but
Inhere he said~FEHSE asked hia to carry material to a friend in Germany*
it should have been to a friend in Italy.

In a search of WALISCHEWSKI'S cabin CabiR 6, D" Deck,


S. S* URUGUAI, the following possible pertinent evidence was found:

1, A postcard which bore the following addrea*:


n
(North Bergen)
9062 Palisades Avenue,
Hudson Heights

Union 7-9694, "

(NOTE: This more or less is identical rath the information on the card
which FEHSE tore up and threw in SEBOID'S waste paper basket on February
26, 1941, to wit:

"Karl Reuper,
9062 Palisades Avenue,
North Bergen, Hudson Heights.
Union 7-9694. " >
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WALISCHEKSKI

PAUL FEHSE in his statement dated June 29, 1941, on Page


13, states:

I know & men by the name of 1ALISCHEWSKI, whom I met in


1940, when he was on the S S. WASHINGTON. I recall that I gave
hia, (to take) alone a copy of a letter that I had sent Air mail to
Genoa, Italy, containing information about English ships. -
I recall that WALISCHEWSKI gave me the name of REUPER and
his address, and told me to look him up, because he might know soase
thing. I went out to REUPER'S place by bus "
FEHSE also stated in an interview that in March or April
of 1940, he gave T ^ L I S C H E W S E I a letter containing information about
English ships in New lorkj another letter addressed to his wife in.
Hamburg, Germany and a copy of Life and Time MagaEines. FEHSE aaid
he asked "^MJSCHEWSKI tode^verthel*tter containing information,
1 1 Cenoa
about English ships ^ B H H H H I H t > Italyj that subsequently
WALIoCKEBSKI returned ^TheOJnitedStates and told FEHSE that he
\J delivered the

ALFRED BROKHOFF in an interview stated, he was with FEHSE


on one occasion when he gave WALISCr-nctSSKI a roll of magazines. He
did not know -what was in these magazines but knew they were to be
smuggled out of the United States.
VECtMAM
\

65-1819

WAUSCHEBSKI

WALISCHEWSKI signed a waiver of removal hearing, a waiver


to remain in custody of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a
waiver of Search.

WALISCHEWSKI was arraigned before United States Commissioner


MARTIN C EPSTEIB in Brooklyn, New York on July 2, 1941, and entered
a plea of guilty. His bail was set 3t |25,OOO in lieu of -union he
was remanded to custody pending action of the Federal Grand Jury.

On July 15, 1941, the Federal Grand Jury for the Eastern
District of New "York returned an indictment charging ADOLF HENRI
AUGUST WALISCHEWSKI with aliases, and other named defendants with
conspiracy in two counts to violate Sections 233 of Title 22 and
Section 32 of Title 50 United States Code*

WALISCHEWSKI was arraigned on July 18, 1941, before the


U, S. District Court, Eastern District of Mew York, plead "not guilty"
and was remanded to custody in H B U of $25,000 bail pending trial set
to begin on September 3. 1941-
VEC:MAM

65-1819

WAIISCHEESKI

The employment record of ADOLF VTALISCHEKSKI, as obtained


from the United States Lines is as follows:-

S. S. PRESIDENT R00SE7ELT 1/2/32 to 7/15/32 Steward


S. S. MANHATTAN 8/12/32 to 9/4/32 Steward
S, S. PRESIDENT HARDING 5/U/34 to 10/26/34 Steward
S. S. PRESIDENT HARDING 4/1/35 to 10/11/35 Steward
S* S. WASHINGTON 2/12/36 to 7/23/36 Steward
S. S. WASHINGTON 11/18/36 to 1/7/39 Steward

(Vacation 1/8/39 to 1/14/39)

S. S. WASHINGTON 1/15/39 to 11/10/39 Steward


3. S. WASHINGTON 11/12/39 to 11/18/39 Steward
S. S, WASHINGTON 11/20/39 to 11/21/39 Steward
S, S. WASHINGTON 12/1/39 to 12/9/39 Steward
3, G. WASHINGTON 12/11/39 to 12/30/39 Steward
S. S. WASHINGTON 1/1/40 to 1/3/40 Steward
S. S. WASHINGTON 1/8/40 to 1/10/40 Steward
S. S. WASHINGTON 1/11/40 to 6/27/40 Steward

The employment record of WiLISCHEWSKI, as obtained from


the Moore-McCormack lines is as followss-

S. S. URUGUAY 9/3/40 to 6/30/41 (date of arrest)


Steward.
VECrMJM

65-1819
WAIISCHEWSKI

The itinerary of the S. S, WASHINGTON iras:-

Left Port of Nerr York To Returned to Port of NY.


Retur;

i/i3Ao Naples Sc Genoa, Italy 2/8/40


2/10A0 Maples & Genoa, Italy 3/4/40
3/9/40 Maples &. Genoa, Italy 4/1/40
4/6/40 Naples 4 Genoa, Italy 4/29/40
5/4/40 Naples & Genoa, Italy 5/28/40
5/30/40 Galway, Ireland 6/21/40
6/28/40 Galway, Ireland
7/26/40 San Francisco, & Los 7/13/40
Angeles, California
8/30/40 San Francisco k Los 8/27/40
Angeles, California
10/19/40 San Pedro, California, 10/2/40
Balboa, Canal Zone,
Territorial Hawaii'. Shanghai
and Manila 12/2 v'40
i/6/a Dry Dock 2/8/41
2/22/41 San Juan, Puerto Rico, St.
Thcnas, Port-au-Prince, Havana 3/6/41
3/8/41 As above 3/20/41
4/1/41 This vessel was placed into the
United States Army Transport
Service,
WAIJSCHEiSKI

x> nfonaatioa iras furnished


United States Steaosi nes relative
ADOLF WALISCHEBSSIj

ADOLF WALISCHE8SKI Bedroom Steward SS WJkSHINGTOH

1939 as above) 1940 (Accurate)

12/10/38 1/7/39 $53.17 l/n/40 2/8/40 187.35


vu
2/8
12^3 3/4 72.58
81.10
45.83 4A
3/4 44*00 4/29 80.21
4A3 71.50 5/28 96.68
5/12 59.00 6/21 97.56
6/8 56.33 6/27 16.29
6/27 41.17 $531.77
Vacation 7/L1 30.33
$414.16
65-1319

DESCRIPTIONj-

NAME ADOLF HENRY AUGUST WALISCHEW5KI


Age 50
Born August 20, 1890
Height 6' 2"
Weight 225
Build Medium heavy
Hair Light brown, thin, straight
Eyes Blue
Complexion Fair
Occupation Bedroom steward on ships.
Marital Status Married -Wife JOHANNA WALISCHEWSKI
Married Set
Children /\ '

Employer Moore-McCormack Lines


Race White
Nationality Naturalized American German ancestry
Religion German Evangelical
Photograph In file
Fingerprints Sent to the Bureau
Criminal Record Bureau advised by letter dated 7-7-41, no
record in files*
Soars and Marks HALISCHSHSKI has a tattoo mark on the left
forearm just below the elbow. This tattoo is
a heart with a cross through it.
The following scars and marks irere observed:
Left inguinal herniotony scar, 3 large vertical
scars on the back of the left biceps just
above the elbow. These scars are about 3 inch,
long and there is a noticeable deformity in the
left arm* liLISCHERSKI advised that this
deformity and these scars.were-received as a ^
result of wounds inflicted during the World "War
when he was a so3.dier in the German Aroy*
65-1819

WITNESS CLASSIFICATION.

1. Immigration and Naturalization.

2. Espionage Activities - Known or Possible.

William Sebold. .

3 Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4. Microphone SurTeillance - (Admissibility Questionable.)

5. Employment Record.

6 History and Prior .Activities.

-K
FECtCD 1

65-1819

* * * * * *

This is a mail drop given to SEBOIO at the tiae he


left Germany. SEBOID was instructed to forward materials to
this address for transndttal to Germany* Also, SEBOID was in-
structed to contactflHH^n the event the United States went
to war with Germany.
(S, 86, Pages 21, 22).
' , ' , " '

SEBOID, DUQTJESNE and RQEDES have all used this drop,


the last use apparently during September 1940*
(S. 3548, Page 4 ) .

iential aoorce i t was


as been enpToyedin the L _____.
years in change of the jteamsnip departaept>1>l^5e''s<?eias to lie
well regarded by hik superiors^^H^^^jjc^DDarent business ;
interests other than the'flHHflHIIIHHHF'.sad"it- is'--not';
known t h a t he i s e n g a g e d ^ S ^ o l i t i c a ^ i c t w i e s % ""
- > '" (S. 2603).

'ft
GFB:ES 1.

65-1819

Address i

iars old, born in Germany, and present-


ly residing " ' " jj<j iras also.reported
as having resided mmmm^mm at one time.
It'has-been Representative tdth" -
offices at
Investigation in Itextco City indicates he has no definite
or visible means of support, tut daily contacieithe radio broadcast-
ing station formerly ope^atedby^heGerman legation on Ensenada.
#132-A. ffiLs name and one IHHflH[|HHttppeared in the contract
for this station signed irwuBe^rJLyAO^and i t i s known that he
also aided in the removing of the equipment from this address on the
night of Jamiary 29, 1941* ;,

also rented pre lor the .


man of theirs However, i t i s known-that Subject '
_ _ i e s the keys to both of these boxes, and they are
nought to be a clearing house for correspondence relating to the.German
espionage operations i n Mexico* ' '. ... ,.;;
s known to be an associate of Subjects|

*,.*-

*I
GFBtES 2.

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The following is a description of]

Age
Born BrnHHaHHlmflsW
Height ^ ."
Weight 150 l b s .
Build JLobtist
Eyes Blue
r
Hair Red
Mustache Cis a n s h a v e n
Race White .-. ,_, .";.'.; t;
Nationality German
Religion Protestant
Languages Speaks Spanish, Englidi
and French v
Occupation Merchant
Marital Status Believed Single
Residence
Mexican Residence Gax

Photograph

4
65-1819

WITNESS CLASSIFICATION.

"o
1. Immigration and Naturalization.

Local Inspectors, Bureau of Marine' Inspection.-


and Navigation.

2, Espionage A c t i v i t i e s - Known or Possible.

William SeboM.

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

A* Microphone Surveillance - (Admlssibility Questionable.)

5. Employjaent Record.
J.S.S. Lines.
6. History and Prior Activities.

1
1 is-"J3 :^r

' &.-
.

'TGS:AB

65-1819

RE.-

Address j o/o.

According; to the inforraatoor^ajuilable


of the United States J JHJ^
J^ bora
has Se^Jersey State
for approximately ten ars with.
the present time
s jaarriedi iiis

.., (Serial 6781, Pare 28)

,^^^^^ a subject in the present investigation due


to the following circumstances: , -^ . '
;
March 23, WILLIAM SEBOLD contacted HEEKAN LAN$- for the first time
1940. on March 25, 1940, at LAIJG's residence, 7436 64th Place,
'> Brooklyn, Hew York' During the course of the conversa-
tion" LaNG stated that ahout a year ago two men, one
SO WAIT end | came to his, LANG's, home and
stated they^ereTTSUTo engineers working for a private
Genaan firm and they questioned LMG Concerning h i s ;
work and about h i s being a mechanic. -From t h e descrip-
tion of SOMATJ given SEBOLD.by LAHG, S3EB0JJD;is of,the
opinion t h a t gOEKAU i s definitely'HUGO.-- However^AHG
It is believed ^hat^mP
"and the individual mentioned
LAHG may be i d e n t i c a l .

, - " (Serial 553, Page 40)


January 25, EAEFWIG KLEISS v i s i t e d WILLIAM SEBOLD i n SEBOLD's of-
1941 f i c e , Eooms 627-8 KCTrsweek Building, 152 West 42nd
S t r e e t , New York City, on 2amu&xy25, .1941, a t which
time ELEISS turned over t o SEBOLD various m a t e r i a l s ,
among -which was a l e t t e r t o GEKHOFF:"dated JANUASY
^ York City, in'which "he^stated t h a t j j "
in I t a l y at, the time before the declaration
^ y t h a t " i t pains'him(KLEISS) greatly t h a t
he did not know whether family conditions have anything
- --.* ,r
65-1819

to do with i t , but that h e S H H s entirely vri.th-


drarm and unapproachable; that he was otherwise a fine
fellow and for, some months nothing better could be
wished. ' " ' ;, '

(Serial 6332, Page 6 ) - '

January 28, EMUH SIEGLEB visited SEBOLD at SEBOID1s office at


1941 152 West 42nd. Street, Kew York City, on January 28, 1941,;,
at which* time SEBOLD asked SIEGL^_aboutHBBfc^d SIEGLEB
stated that ^^^^^^^^^^^____
and he i s not ac5^^55^5or"e in this" business because
the Germans gave him a raw deal^reearding^iis wife coming
to America. SIEGLER a d v i s e d H ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ H | | w ^ L a d been
at Genoa for embarkation t o "tneTS^e^States when, through
some manipulation of EAED (an a l i a s of EAKTWIG KLEISS),
she was sent back to G e r ^ a n y w i t h t h e h e l p of the Gestapo,
and that since that timeHHHHiHill^VdrinkinK end lost
his interest in eve:
(Serial 6401, Page 2)

January 30, In a conversation had between PAUL FEHSE and WILLIAT. SEEOLD
1941 in the l a t t e r ' s office, SEBOID asked FEHSE i f he knew a
man by the name H B H H L ' t'&HSE

^ on one o.f the uniuea i;ate8 line3' boats, in-


dicating that he recalle^tHat i t was the.'S.S. Manhattan.
FEHSE also stated m m ^ L s a good fellow but he
never played a grole and did not have nuch energy.

(Serial 6438, Page 7)

February 6, HEHMM LAHG met WILIJM SEBOID in the latter 1 s office


1941 on February 6, 194]^and^durjba the conversation at this
meeting the name H j j H H r ^ s brought-up by SEBOLD.
M-at: this time s t a t e d t t e t t h e toew a .0 was a
engineer but did not know "his ,'fir! A few
later LANG mentioned the name fand stated
the H H B 1 6 knew had left the United es.two years
ago-. . : '" , ' '

(Serial 6475,

. _; The follovring i s a description of


is reflected by the files of the United States mes:
Age
Born
Height
Hair Blonde
Eyes Brown
m TGS:AB 3

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Marital Status -

Children

Relatives

Seaman's Record

Criminal Record Unknown -.' "' .

Photograph Seaman1s photograph obtained from


United States Karitime Commission,;
in Exhibit File of this case.

Birth Certificate itate of Hew Jersey

nationality American

Occupation SSs America


GBB:ES

65^.819

[was born on
Lichterfelde, Germany. He is single
aboTe address* He is holder of a German pas flatted at
Lisbon, Portugal, and valid until Jane 28 traveller.

he attended the University :of Denver, at Denver, Colorado-


as an exchange student." ^*
He i s l a s t believed t o have visited t he United States when
he entered at Laredo, Texas on October 18, < 193$,^sad after visiting
in Denver, Colorado, and Los Angeles, California, returned to Mexico
by Laredo, T^x^^^jt&3^QM2S^^^^^^^^a^u^^j^ci^i<m
withSubjectAi^i^i^i^i^i^i^i^i^iHHIHili^i^i^i^i^iHr He
i s present}
of SubjectHH|^^^HB| and Subject]
^SSI^^^^ through
On January 11, 1941, a message was received by the Bureau,
station at Centerport, Long Island from Station AOR in Germany
relay to Station GBO in Mexico reading asfollowst -'., . -' :%-,: * , v

"Con With unich transmitter irert^'you Wrking.


Congratulations on success. Greetings*

Apparently in answer to this a message was received


from GBO for relay to Station ACR reading as follows*
"lours* Work with oisn transmitter, inasimxohas I
immediately before made direct contact
by nryself. Get together. Greetings.?'
GPBsES 2.

' * *. f,
65-^.819 : .1

sibiUty exists t _ d refer tof/tKe person


and that1 d be referring to
, * - ^

; s '#. ' / %t V,

..*. ! 5

V.*-
GFB:BS.

The following is a description of

Age
Height 5' 7$"
Eyes Grey-
Hair Chestnut
Build Medium
* '

Mustache Cleanshaven
X) Marital Status
Race
Believed single
White
Nationality German
Languages Speaks German, Spanish,
French and English -'
Religion PrrAe s t ant ^ ^ _ _ , ^ ^ - ^ - _
Residence
Photograph * L W f f l L e l ^
65-1819

Y/ITNESS CLASSIFICATION.

1. Immigration and Naturalization.

Byron H. Uhl, E l l i s Island, N.Y.

2. Espionage A c t i v i t i e s - Knotvn or Possible.

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4. Microphone Surveillance (Adroissibility Qaestionable.)

5.

6. History and Prior Activities.


TEC:AB ^5

65-1819

Address:

. -. . The information obtained %n t h e Jlew York City Marriage


License Bureau, 252 Municipal Builditofr^fietf York C i t v . i a d i e a t e s t h a t
sas born on I
I i o have arrt-veT^nTeT^or^afcoard t h e S. S
January 12, 1940
Her father
On August 1, 1940,
is a ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
has made application for
ixzenship
(Serial 2561, Page 58)

subject LILLY frequently. Conversations


"between STEIH ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ave been over-heard over
apartment. All information indica-
ting that s knowledge of the conspiracy or
has violate! the espionage Taws of the United States, has been obtained
over these microphone surveillances. The conversations indicate that
.has some knowledge of some of STEIN's friends
and associates. ""T .
On December 22, 1940,1
STEI1 in the preparation of what appears to- be.a code .letter* The
information ^^yfyQrth^^^|hesursgiJL^nce on December U2, 1940, rer
l i c t a t e d
fleets that | | | | H | | H H P to STEIN a series of .
numbers in piirallel^ columns "with certain paragraph breaks* In the
opinion of th^' Bureau Laboratory, this i s definitely a code l e t t e r .
From the conversation carried on at the time -the letter was prepared,
i t would appear from th'e use of the word *themt> ~that STEIH was pre-
paring the letter for German authorities j j H H H H B m a y have
knoisn t h i s .
FECiAB 2

65-1819

DESCRIPTION OF:

Address:

Age
Born
Height
Weight
Hair Blonde
Complexion Fair
Eyes Blue ^paB-j-j^pjaaBi
Maritial Status Harried ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ H
Citizenship Austrian
Dress Good
Peculiarities Strong German accent
6^-1819

TSITHESS CLASSIFICATION

ELSE TffiUSTMFELD

1. Immigration and Naturalization


Clerk, U. S. Dist. Court, S.D.N.T., N.T.C.
rrati on and Naturalizat4on Serv. Wash., DC,
, Dir. of Immigrat. & Natural. Service.

2. Espionage Activities - Knowi or possible


Chase National Bank, N.Y.C. -
7/8/
Passport Division,

Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence


0 7/12/40
Misc.
7/12/40
7/12/40
7/12/40

Microphone Surveillance (Adaissibility Questionable)

Employment Record

6. History and Prior Activities


65-1819

ELSE 1ETJSTEHFEH) with aliases: -


Else Blessman, Mrs. Hans Hitter,
Else Westenfeld, Else Bleesmarm,
Elsie Blessmann.
Residence: 312 West Slst Street, New Yoife, N.I.
Employed as Notary Public, Topken & Farley,
Room 1723, 17 Battery Place, New York, N.I.
(Attorneys for Geraaan Consulate, New York City.)

****#*##*#

The records of the Federal District Court, TjawLgration


and Naturalization Service, 641 Washington Street, Hew York City,
show that ELSE H E U S T K W F E U } , ssaiden naae, Else Blasman- born Essen,
Germany, April J.6, IS99, arrived at the Port of Hew York October
6, 1927, having sailed from the Port of Auxnafen, Germany, on the
S.S. RELIANCE* She was admitted on an Emigration Visa issued at
Cologne, Germany, August 7, 1927. She was married the following
day, October 7, 1927 to AIBERT lEUSTENFEID who divorced her June
24, 1929.
She left the United States for visits to Germany during
the following periods:
December 9, 1929 to February 28, 1930.
January 7, 1934 to June 16, 1934.
She applied for citizenship October 13, 1935 and was
naturalized in New York City on January 27, 1937.
The file further reflects the following Employment
Record:-
October 8, 1927 to April 15, 1929 - resided at Pontiac, Michigan,
as housewife with AISERT WEUSTENFETD.
July to December 1929 - employed in the New York City Orthopedic
Hoap ital as an undergraduate nurse. . At the Hospital she stated
that she had had twenty months experience in private practice
nursing in the United States.
CD 2

65-1819 . - .. .
April 1930 to December 30, 1933 - stenographer and secretary for
the North German Iloyd Steamship U n e , 57 Broadway, Hew lark City.
The file contains a letter from her dated October 16,
1935, in which she indicates that she "was then conducting the Hotary
Department of TOPKEH & FARIEI, 17 Battery Place, Heir Tork City.

Her name first appears in the files of the Heir Torfc


Office in the case entitled NICHOLAS ADOEPH FRITZ HITTER, HANS WAITER
RTTTER, CONS&MERS CREDIT CORPORATIOHj ESPIOHACffi; S3f XORK FIJJE 65-123,
which investigation was instigated as a result of confidential ixr-'
formation furnished by the tl. S. State Departae&t to the effect that
NICHOLAS ADOLPH FRITZ RimER, known to be an officer in the Geraan
Army assigned to the Secret Service Branch, had left Germany Novenfcer
5, 1937, for the United States, aaol had returaied to Geraany on Decesker
27, 1937; that while in the United States he farthered the German
Espionage System by visiting various airplane factories and contacting
individuals therein* His brother, HAH3 RUTER, ihen in the United
states, was also believed to b engaged in this work and was alleged
to contact Gernaa ships upon arrival and depart^e from ttoe united

is American
born.
An investigation of H4HS RITTEa developed that he
residing at 102 Riverside Drive, on August 6, 1936, which was the address
given by ELSE WECTSTEHFEJJ) \^>on her application for citiienahip, January
27, 1937, to which address she had moved in May 1936. /< >

advised that
HANS RUTER and a woman represented to be his sister, occupied adjoin-
ing rooas froa Christaas 1935 to January 1937 and tls^ ioved to.82
Riverside iftrive. He added that RITTER was radically^anti-Semitic and
he called him "Hitler"; that he, RUTER, also receiyed considerable
mail froa Germany and seeaed to be engaged in preparing various papers,
which he aailed.
HH|B|^HH|HHB house at 82
Riverside ^ ^ p ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ HANS
RITTER as living at that address, as nan and wife, and stated that the
maiden name of Ritter*s wife was WESfEMFEID which name appeared on the
:
m a i l b o x * ''-. ' ' ' . ' ' ''.'"'.' .
CD 3

65-1819

HANS HITTER left the United States for Geraaay in


December 1939* ELSE TOUSTEHFEID moved to 312 West 81st Str#fc, Hew
York City, about May 1, 1940. HANS HITTER returned to the United States,
arriving in Hew lork City, on July 21, 1940 and again took up residence
with her.
In August ,(^
office at 32 Broadway under the najie
for the purpose of dealing in the sale of re-immigration marks to
Germans %ho intended to return to Germany, these marks being deposited
in a bank in Germany to the credit of the person purchasing them.
He again sailed from the United States January 8, 1941,
from San Francisco and is believed to be now in Yokohama, Japan.
The investigation in the above mentioned case and in-
volving HANS RTPTER did not definitely develop any information upon
which HANS HITTER could be prosecuted for engaging in Espionage.
ELSE WEaSTENTElD'S name entered the present lovesti-
gation and the following information has been developed.

(Where Ducase #1 appears it refers to William Sebold)

0
CD 4

65-1819
EVERETT BOEDER, In a conversation with Informant
uease #lt on April 29, 1940/ stated that he would write a letter
to Germany concerning his contact with informant and further request-
ing that he be seat 8 one money and that he would try to get the letter
sent in the Diplomatic Post; that he, through a third party, knows of
a girl named ELSE who works for some attorneys who nay be connected
with the Consul. ROEDER said that he knew the girl, ELSE, and that
she used to take care of forwarding his mail to the other side.
On May 4# 1940, inf ormant Dacase #1 went to the apart-
sent of L U L Y STEIN and daring the conversation with her, daring
which tine they were discussing various people they knew who were
connected with the espionage activity, he asked her if she knew any-
one else engaged in spy work and she said that she had heard of a
fellow by the name of HANS RITTER who was in the Export business on
the west side of Hew York, and that he left for Germany shortly before
Christinas 1939 via Japan and Italy.
LILLY STEIN in conversation with Informant Ducaae #1
on Kay 11, 1940, stated that when she cams to America she brought crer
$300 with her for JIMMI, however, she personally never saw JIMMY and
paid the money to someone else for transmittal to him. She did not say
at this time to whom she had paid this money. ,
DDQUESHE, in a conversation with the informant on May
15, 1940, admitted that he was known under the names of JIM and
JBfilX. Informant told Duquesne that he had heard that money came over
for him from the other side and was paid to him through ELSE*' Duquesne
admitted that he had received money through her.
On May 25th informant, in conversation with LILLY STEIN,
asked her if she had any contacts on the west coast, as he might find
it necessary to contact someone out there* She stated that she did
not know anyone there* He then asked her if ELSE could help out.
LILLT stated, that she did not know for sure but that she would be glad
to try and arrange an afternoon coffee meeting withiUSE for him,
and that he could take the matter up with her. He asked her how she
came to meet ETftE and she stated that she was sent to ELSE by the
authorities in Germany and she was instructed to give Else something.
He asked her if this "something11 was the money she had previously men-
tioned, which was to be given to J1B She replied "maybe". However,
she stated that Else "is very scared now since she has taken out her
citizenship papers.* * H
CD 5

65-1819
Informant, while talking with HERMAH LAIR} on Jane 1 9 ,
1940, was asked by LANG i f he knew anyone i n t h e German Consulate*
He t o l d h i a t h a t he did not but t h a t i f he wanted t o get a message
through then he ndght be able t o arrange a contact through a g i r l
by t h e name of ELSE. Lang said t h a t he had heard of E l s e , bat did
not say anything f u r t h e r .

On June 22, 1940, informant again saw T.TTJ.Y STEIN


and during the conversation with her she s t a t e d t h a t EEB refused t o
have anything t o do with him as she wanted t o keep c l e a r of espionage
b u s i n e s s . He asked her i f she would t r y t o find out a way through
Else f o r a friend of h i s t o get out of the United States through
Mexico (he was here referring t o HERMAN LABG). STEIN said t h a t Else
might be able t o give him some help a s her boy f r i e n d , HANS HITTER,
l e f t f o r Germany by way of Mexico and t h a t ELSE v i s i t e d him i n Mexico
l a s t Spring. She s t a t e d t h a t when she, Stein, f i r s t arrived here-she
had i n s t r u c t i o n s t o contact e i t h e r Else or Hans H i t t e r . She s a i d ,
however, t h a t she o oatactsd Else and never met Hans.

On J u l y 1 3 , 1940, informant again talked with T.TTJ.Y


STEIN i n her apartment, and she s t a t e d t h a t she had seen ELSE t h e
day before and t h a t Else did not know anyone i n Mexico or anything
about leaving the country through Mexico a t t h i s t i m e . However, she
did s t a t e t h a t she believed i t would be hard t o get i n t o Mexico because
of passport requirements and would be i f one had only a German p a s s -
port.

Again on July 3 1 , 1940 STEIN i n conversation with_


f ormant s t a t e d t h a t she sawET^E r e c e n t l y and asked EtSE about "

V r e f e r r i n g t o the manHH^who the German a u t h o r i t i e s advise


was bringing money t o ^ h e United States t o b e t j a i d t o t h e
various a g e n t s ; . She s t a t e d that Else said t h a t ^ H ^ w a s being
searched f o j ^ ^ ^ s ^ ^ ^ ^ J ^ ^ ^ ^ | ^ a propagandiswSd wrote a book
entitled, 9 B V B W H H I H H H H B She did not mention knowing that
HANS HITTER was again i n New York City.

On August 10, 1940, informant again went t o LILLY


STEIN *S apartment and during the conversation she told him that she
had been t o see ELSE againj that Else told Ijer that i t i s Very "hot"
a l l around and that there are going t o be some "pinches i n the near
future1*; that Else had warned her t o be careful what she did i n
view of the expected arrests* She' did not say-where Else had obtained
this information. - * ' '
CD

65-1819
Again, on August 15, 1940, informant went
STEJJPS -apartment and ion she asked hia if he was
acquainted with a na& named He told her that he did not
with S H |
anything, because
ELSE told her ree jbhe real Gestapo was located in Washing-
ton. She said tba been "playing around" wita a sister
of hers (Slse's), Lso that Else knevMiow~to]rake contact with the
Washington Gestapo With reference M H H B she said that Else
had oached her some tine ago suv

In a conversation with LILLT STEIN on -*ogast 23, 1940,


informant asked LILLY about Else's boy friend. Stein said that
Else would not talk about this, or about her boy friendfs activities.
She did not indicate that she knew that Roeder was in town.
CD 7

65-1819
Through a microphone installed in TIT,TY STEINf S
apartment, agents of the Bureau overheard the following pertinent
conversations which took place between LILLY STEIK and ELSE
ED"STEKFEIDs- (Location - 127 East 54th Street, New York City).

On September 25, 1940, over the microphone setup it


was ascertained that ELSE ITEJLTSTENFEID paid a visit to Idlly Stein,
and the f ollowing pertinent conversation n as overheard. STEIN was
heard to say, "I cannot understand why I am being stood up on account
of some Lisbon matter. I have nothing* The Englishman told me to
play around with the English secretary". She then said that she had
not written to him and does not believe she can contact him. She
then changed the subject and stated that she was a dinner guest at
the "Regiment" (probably the Armory located at 635 Park Avenue), but
that she did not know the name of the boyfriend who took her there*
(Stein apparently did not want to inform 1EUSTEHFEJJ) aa to the identity
of this individual, although it is known from previous conversations
that this individual]
STEIH informed that all the officers at this dinner
were dressed in civilian clothes* She then changed the subject and
stated, "They have received the correct letter in which I have written
about the Englishman and now I am standing by," Else made no reply
to these remarks, and Stein said that the man at the "Regiment11 does
not suit her at all, but she will not leave him until she hears from
the other side. Stein then stated that another letter of hers was
caught again at Bermuda; that she is very anxious to know whether s
will continue to work and where she will go. Stein then spoke of the
possibilities of getting a different Job, and stated that she has met
a man whose name she did not furnish, from the United Air Lines, who
hopes to get her a job in that organization.
ELSE replied that she did not believe that there would
be any great opportunities for her in that work," and Stein stated
that she needed money, and that she must absolutely do something, to
which statement Else said, "And where is HARRY?11 (apparently referr-
ing to HARRY SAWYER.) Stein replied that Barry had not been around
since she saw him the last tike, and she does not know what he Is
doing. TOJSTENFEID replied that if he was observed it is best if he
doesn't come around and see her for her own protection* Stein stated
that -she is not mad at Harry, and that he had treated her nicely, and
she is hoping for the best.
CD 8

;
65-1819
STEIN also stated that her letter was received by
them and that she asked them what to do with HEXHRICB'S matter, and
whether it can be sent over by mail. STEIN then said, "By October
1st it will be $650.0OV ELSE esqaressed considerable surprise at this
remark and Stein also stated that they are still complaining about
her and wondered if they would want her new address, and she further
stated, "It could be that I am being discharged and not he**;
WEtJSTiNFEID replied, "If your reports went over as they should then
there is no ground for their action". Stein then stated that Harry
had assured her they were properly sent over to which Else said,
"HARHX as a man should knew definitely".
STEIN then said, "HAHHT could have been tuned out."
Stein then stated that she had another letter on the way. and that she
had mailed this letter on the Clipper that day; that she had taken "
considerable chance because she did not know whether or not it -would
stop at Bermuda. She also stated that she had hidden one copy of the
letter and one copy she sent by way of Siberia which would take about
six weeks.
STEIN then stated that her boyfriend, whose name she
does not know, had told her that his "Regiment* would be mobilised
by th 15th, to which WE0STEHFEID replied, "There you are, the Americans
are like a child, always want to go with the winner1*, and added,
M
My God, what will become of us?" and Stein replied, "I aawaiting**
After a brief pause, STEIN stated, "A ship was cooing
in next Friday" and she knows there is a Ban on it. She was appar-
ently referring to the^arrival of the S*S. EXOCHGRM.which ship had .
been referred to by SABXEE as having an employee who Is transmitting
material and who nay bring over funds for the espionage agents.
WEUSTEHFELD then asked STEIN whether she knew the S.S.AMERICA was
manned by a crew which formerly was on the SS MANHATTAN, but re-
fused to remain with the MANHATTAN when they discovered that it was to
carry monitions to England. She stated that the crew took this,
at tittide since they were formerly German citizens, who presently are
American citizens. Stein stated that she was much interested in
hearing this, and added that the men on the EXOCHORDA which cooes in
Friday may bring her something and she is expecting something because
she had written a letter which was received by them five days before
she broke up with HARHT. '
~~ . She then statedj "I intentionally took ajn apartment.
with no doorman and with a mail box so I couldn't be observed."
n.
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Continuing, she stated, "When I know that they will no longer want
me, I will not make this my main business, but will send over some-
thing from the newspapers occasionally which night be of interest.*
1EUSTENFEID stated, "They should have at least
given you $100.00 a month so that you would not have to hunger so
much", to which STEIN replied, "If they are not satisfied with
what I have given them they should have given me three months' notice
so I could establish myself.11
WEUSTENFEH) then stated that she had heard something
quite accidentally, the details of which she does not want to discuss
or disclose to STEIN but which c&me from the main headquarters about
one week ago in the fora of an enclosure in an envelope which was ad-
dressed to her, but the enclosure was not intended for her. Stein
stated that she would probably hear something in one or two weeks, and
WEU3TSSFEU) added that information she got might have been of signi-
e with reference to HARKTfS quitting*
Stein then stated that in the middle of September s one-
one was to come over with $1,000.00 to which TOJSTEHFEn) replied, ,
"Yes, that date is something of the past". They then entered into a
discussion concerning the registration of aliens* WEUSTESFEID stated,
"The Germans are just too darned honest for these questionnaires and
all of this is in preparation for war so that they can tell where the
people are," Stein stated that she was of the same opinion and added,
"It is probably for the purpose of finding out who certain people are
so that they can be sent to the concentration camps with greater facility."
"HEOSTESFEII) then consoled STEIN by stating, "It is certain the con-
ditions in the concentration camps here will not be as bad as the con
ditionso*er there." ,
STEIN then changed the subject and stated that at
the dinner the other evening, which was given at the "Regiment11, her
name was registered in the Quest Book, and she -was very proud to have
her name appear there. WOTSTENFEJJD asked STEIN if she was asked if
she was a German, to which Stein replied that her boy friend knows
it, and she was surprised he invited her.
STEIN and WEHSTENFEID discussed mutual friends and then
Stein asked WErjSTEHFEIB whether she knows that the entire city is ow
being covered by the BBI men, La^euste|i|eld replied that. she knows '.--.
that and that, "One time when I was going hone fron you a man stepped
on the bus with me and got off at the same place and I know it was one
of the FBI."
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STEIN stated that she does not know whether she is being observed,
to vjhich WEOSTEKFEED replied, T o n don't know, they are sweeping up
behind you."
At another point in the conversatj
that she would like to send her boyfriend, 1
foodDackaee and asked WEOSTEHFEID if she
H H s T W e u s t e n f e l d suggested that she not send it throughj_
because his connect! ons areno^sogood^ajdauggested a place
Broadway* (Undoubtedly H H H H H H H H H ^ f t ro Is the associate of
HANS RITTER). ^^^B"*"""""""""""

Later STEIN stated that she would like to know what is


really wrong and she stated she has not been as energetic and diligent
in working over here as she should have been, to which Weustenfeld
said, *Xes, it could have been better with^th^jroun^rnapin Washington."
She at this point is probably referring ^ H H H H H P Stein re-
plied to this remark, T e s , his birthday waSxa^i irtsJc and I always
wanted to give him something nice, but I did not hare any money, so I
couldn't do it" Weustenfeld stated, "If we see each other in Qenaany
again, I shall bear you out on all of this."

Through conversations overheard, it was ascertained


that T.I7.TT STEIN was to take another apartnent on October{% in a bulld-
ing located at 232 East 79th Street. It was observed that this con-
sisted of three old buildings which were^feeing^ renovated - t 7 '

LT STEDf, and into which she was to move her furniture on about
September 30 or October _1. Prom the microphone setup, it "was ascer-
tained that she had her furniture moved from her ajjartaent at 127
East 54th Street on September 30 to the apartoaent at 232 East 79th
Street, but she did not occupy this apartment until a subsequent date
due to the fact that construction work was still going on. A micro-
phone was not installed in her apartment until October 17 on account
of the fact that it might be discovered due to the construction work still
going on*
: On October 18, l94Oj ELSE WBPSTEBF1 paid mother visit
to STEJS in her apartatent. At the be ation
STEIN re&arked that|_ arrived
in America on Sunday,findthat he still does nc a job. Further
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along in the conversation STEIN "was heard to remark that she is certain
that HARRX *haa ran put this tine", inasmuch as he has not been heard
from. Stein added that she was told by them that if she acted sensi-
bly she would be treated in a like Banner by "them" (German authori-
ties). WETJSTENFEJJ) stated that it is true inasmuch as they are sensi-
ble people. Stein remarked that she had sent a nunfcer of letters?
that three weeks have now elapsed; that she had heard nothing.
YffitfSTEHFSED then stated "They" either send their letters bjr Air Mail
or over the top" (probably Siberia).

STEIN remarked that probably Air Mail letters are not


being utilized now, and that matters are probably being sent over
separate, and Weustenfeld said that she is fully cognizant of the
difficulties they encountered in the matters of connunicatipns.
Weustenfeld then changed the subject, and said that H H H has now
brought the entire German legation into ill repute
trouble cane about when the news item made its appearance in the news-
papers a naafcer of days before. After a slight pause, STEIN re-
marked that she was intending to send a letter over to them tomorrow.
Subsequently, STEIN'S telephone was heard to ring, and
she spoke 10m she later described as a military man,
(possibly J, -whom she advised that she was busy tonight,
but would >e free Monday night.

6 STEIN was also heard to say that she had not heard
from them (German authorities) but that she hopes to hear soon, art
it is regretted that they did not keep her on for one more month*
STEIN then asked WEUSTEKFELD whether she knew that the English have
airplane factories In India to which Weustenfeld replied that she '
;
did n o t . -- . ';"' ' - . .. .. ' . ' . .-/'

STEIN was also heard to remark that some money will


come, and after it comes she would be very careful with it because
she knows that it may take more than a half year before more arrives.
Weustenfeld expressed no surprise at this, but remarked that it is
still like it used to be.
STEIN then said that she believes that HARRX Is a swine,
and that he put the money into his own pockets. Weustenfeld then
said, "I always told you that you could not have any faitl
man."; STBEB was also heard to state that he (referring
could probably have brought something over for her from lisbon,
she did not know that he was coming.- She also stated that she was .
afraid to send any cables to them on this matter;.that abb hasn't sent
a cable to them since last August; that she has not received" any in-
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structioas directly since last ^prilj and that the last comraunica-
tion she received with reference to money was in July., She stated
that she would send a letter that day asking for instructions, and
advising them that she needs a new address* She explained to
WSUSTENFEID that she keeps a copy of the letter until she knows that
the Clipper has gone through without being stopped at Bermuda, and
if she hears that the Clipper has been stopped at Bermuda, she im-
mediately mails the copy the other way* ' .
She added that this would probably be the last letter,
and would indicate this in the letter, and that she will not be
heard from until she gets a reply. She added that she kept a copy
of the last telegram that she sent over, but had not received a reply.
Id Weustenfeld that a man "who stated that his name was
telephoned to her and spoke in very good
sriin"German. She did not know who this man was. Weustenfeld ex-
pressed some surprise, and requested Stein to tell her a little more.
Stein stated that he did not use the pass word, but that he probably
refrained froia doing so because of the possjUji^Ltor that her telephone
might be listened to. STEIN A4ded thatflHflHp.s a new contact
from the other side, and that he will caTniSr^Sunciay mornlag. Ks
stated that he had heard that she was a modelj that she had not dis-
closed the fact that she is a model to but very few people in America,
but that she had advised themfGermanauthoritiea) that she is doing
modelling, and believes that j m H f l u e r i r e d that information from
them; that she believed the ^ ^ f H I H f H . is a false name, and
that he did not use the pass word^^aj>ar?^of the pass word or in-
dicate that he had met her before because 6f the possibility that ty
telephone is listened to* She stated that she is, certain that her
telephone is listened to because of the way it "crackles*1. Weustenfeld
assured her that if the telephone was being listened to, she woul4
not hear a crackle j that only such things are done when one is being
"very heavily observed" ^ .
STEIN replied that she knew that she Is not being ob-
served, to which 13EUSTENFEH) replied that the crackle in the tele-,
phone may or might be caused by other installations.
1EUSTEMFEID then advised Stein that the DASES Plan bonds
were due, and that Germany must make payment within the next four weeks.
Weustenfeld also stated that there was four times as much American
capital currently then in Germany than from any other nation. Stein then
stated that the Germans in America are in a relatively precarious posi-
tion and It is not even safe to speak German on the streets" here. - "
Weustenfeld then asked Stein what she would do with the *Jfl on the pass-
port, and Stein replied that her passport does not reflect a B J B (a stamp
placed upon a Jewish passport). Stein was heard to say that she is
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standing by for the Japanese steward on a Japanese boat to coae
over with some money, but she believes that the boat will stop
in Bermuda. She stated that she has no way ol hearing froa "Uncle
Jim11 fandoubtedly HJQTJESNE) at the present tiae inasmuch as HARET
is no longer around. Weustenfeld asked about Barry, and Stein
stated she believes he is being observed; that she has all kinds of
thoughts in her mind, and, that she believes that when the two
Norwegians were taken froa the Clipper in Bermuda that there is a
possibility that some money which was intended for distribution here
was confiscated.
WEBSTENFEED laughed at this remark and stated that those
people who were taken off were high officials of the Norwegian line.
Stein stated that it may be true that they were high officials but
the British certainly had a reason to^to^lihea^Stein then ad-
vised Weustenfeld that she spoke to | | | | H H f l F **"* tM 1 * h e h a d
told her that he is very busy now durang^bisperTod preceding the
election* She stated that he was very nice to her, and it is her
purpose to keep her contact with his*
WEIISTIMFEID then changes the subject and tells STEIN,
"If you ever get that money, be sure to pay the rent for two months
in advance." Stein stated she would, and that after the war breaks
out she will probably not receive anything.
STEIN added that "the stupid Harry probably put the
money into his pocket." Weustenfeld stated that she did not like the
way-Harry, has spoken to Stela about her immoral conduct. Weustenfidd
added that she knows Stein is not clean, but that Harry tad no reason
for making such a great point of her itomoral conduct. Stein added
that she was very honest with Harry because she trusted hia to a .
great extent, but she now realises that she was too honest with hla.
Weustenfeld adds that in work of this type, ali, of thW^aust work to-
gether or it cannot be successful. Stein then said that she is won-
dering what he (Harry) is doing now. Weustenfeld says that it Is best
not to see him. Stein and Weustenfeld then cane to the conclusion '
that "Harry had probably fled.
STEIN stated that he had told her that she could expect
some money from a Japanese liner which was to arrive in the middle of
September, but that nothing had arrived, Weustenfeld then asked Stein
whether she had registered, and Stein replied that she had not.
Stein then stated that "the
British Intelligence man ,f says.that in Mexico
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something is brewing*. WEUSTENFELD then asked her whether he or his
friend were still calling on her, tad Stein replied thai she is
expecting a call Monday* She stated that she did not want to puap
his friend too much for inf oraation*
STEIN continued by stating that she believed that she is
on the "English blacklist" as an eneaey of England because of the
letters that she had written. Stein stated that all of the letters
she had written to Heinrlch had been in code, and that she had written
S O Q 9 which were addressed to LOUISE, Vienna, and that she..was very much
surprised to receive a letter from the Intelligence aaa the other day
in which he called her LOUISE "HEISSj that she cannot arrive at any
other conclusion than that these letters that she addressed to Vienna,
were looked at, and that he believes that she, STEIN, is LOUISE. She
stated that it took her weeks to figure this out in her mind, and that
this thought had just recently coae to her. She explained to WEUSTENFEID
that the nape, "LOOTSE", really is the name of the mother^in-law of
the addressee who presently is in the German Army, and thaVshe is using
the name, "Louise11 as an address. nEUSTENFELD then asked ST&ffi what
they did with those coded letters that are being intercepted at Bermuda*.
Stein replied that they probably keep them. STeustenfeld stated, "They
must have quite a collection".
STEIN then stated that she could not understand how the
code could be intercepted by them inasmuch as the words of the code
are based upon words appearing on the various pages of the specific
book. She added that those words changed for every letter, and that
such a code cannot even be interpreted if they searched through one*s
house, unless they find the book* Stein stated that she knew exactly
what book it is, and that she never even told Barry about it*
WEUSTENFELD made no reply and Stein continued by saying
that it is not a staple code based upon letters, and that the only
way to catch up on it is to find the book; that the code is not based
upon nuntoers.
After a pause, Stein says that the Captain Is now calling
her, "Louise Weiss", to which 15EUSTSNFELD replied, "There are always
two sides to every story". After a brief pause, Stein repeats that
she believes that she is now on the black list at Bermuda.
On October 30, 194-0, ELSE WEUSTEHFELD paid LILLY STEIN
another visit. During the conversation, the following pertinent re-
narks were overheard*! - .
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TOSJSTENFELD stated that she had found out that the man
gave "false reports over there", (apparently referring to SAWXER).
WEUSTMFEJJD then asked STEIN what this fellcnrfs nane was, and Stein
stated, "SAHER WILLIAM SEBQTJ)11. WEfJSTENFEJJ) then said that some-
one that she had spoken to had told her about STEIN, and that he also
said that HARRI had made false statements over there* Stein stated
that she regretted that this had happened, but that she could not prove
anything inasmuch as she had not taken any notes on what he had told
her. Stein then asked Wenstenf eld -whether the man she had contacted
had told her any more, and she replied that he didn't* Stein then asked
Weustenfeld whether this person referred to her by name. Weuatenfeld
replied that she -was only referred to as "the dark Viennese1*.
STEIN then stated that she had not sent any reports in,
and that last August, while she was being contacted by Harry, he at one
time told her that he would not have anything for her, but the next day
he came by with "something" Stein stated that she is certain that
KAKRT embezzled some money, and asked TOJSTENFEID whether she is certain
thai he is "actually out11. Weustenfeld then stated that it probably
was necessary for HARKX to flee inasmuch as "Jim", tc whom ahe re-
ferred as the superior" had probably noticed that Harry put some of
that money in his pocket. Stein then made inquiry of Weustenfeld as
to who had advised her of all this, and Weustenfeld replied that the
man who told her this is already on his way to the other side. Stein
rep lied that the last letter she had written one week ago went through
without any stop at Benaudaj that in this letter she had asked for a
new address, and had stated that she was going to wait for a reply from
them. Stein then stated that she does not know how true some of the
information is that she is getting, but adds that she has heard that <t
the censor is working together with the FBI

After a pause, Stein remarked, "So he made false reports -


how could he do that? n
WEUSTENFELD replied, " H e ^ an American - it*s no wonder."
Stein stated that this amazed her very much, and wondered
whether he probably could be working for the other side. (Apparently U.S.
or England). WEOSTEUFEID remarked that she did not believe that he had
enough courage to do that. Stein then continued by stating that what
amazed her so much was that he always told her that maybe they could
not read her code, and that she was also dubious as to what he actually
wanted from her. . -
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WETJSTiJJFElD thereupon stated that he probably thought that
Stein could do this work better than he so he would merely stand by and
transmit it for his own benefit* Stein also stated that Harry made
very unusual remarks concerning political affairs, and that she is now
of the opinion that these remarks were made exclusively for the purpose
of "shaking her". IMSTENFEtD then assured Stein that she need not be
scared since he has fled. Stein replied that she had no fear, and
again repeated that she is sure he had put away some of the money.
Stein also said that she thought it was. a very underhanded trick on
the part of* Harry-to transmit false reports Inasmuch as they either
gave honest reports or none. HEUSTENFEH3 thereupon said that she was
told, "The girl did what she could, and he merely sat there." Stein
assured Weustenfeld that this is true.
WEUSTENFEID stated that it is certainly not a shortcoming
for her to corjfine herself exclusively to honest reports. Stein stated
that she had no one to blame but herself, and that she believed that
she was undoubtedly stupid in this matter; that at this moment ap-
parently soae question arose as to whether Weustenfeld was referring
to the case SAWTKR as Stein, and Stein ail at once remarked, "lea,
HARRY. SAWYER at Grand Central Post Office, Box #554."
WEUSTENFEID then stated to Stein that she was really stir-
prised to see the name "Sawyer" and that as soon as she saw the name
she figured that it was the man in whom Stein was interested. Stein
then assured Weustenfeld that she had the right nan, and continued by
stating that she knew that she did not do great things, but is certain
that her record wasnH bad. \
After a brief pause Stein said, "I hope that what you say.
isn't true." Stein also stated that she knew she was in the mire,
and stated that there la no doubt that HAEEX pulled a dirty trick. After
a long pause, eustenfeld said, "Can you imagine that fellow had enough
nerve to come around and tell you he was thrown out." Stein remarked,
"Yes, he told me that".
Stein then stated that everything went all right up to
June, and that it surprised her that he didn't even care to make it good,
and that her great trouble was that she depended upon him too such. She
continued by saying that HARRY always did puazle her, and that every
time she spoke to him he did not look her square in the eyes, as though
he he had a clear conscience, and that she should have known that he
w a s a d a n g e r o u s ' n a n . , .'_-'. . .'-.'-.' ... ;'' .,-.', . ...." .- V - " .

Stein suddenly changes the subject and says,,. "When I go


back I will tell them." Stein then remarked to Weustenfeldthat her
great trouble always has been that she could not send mail over to
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them because of the Bermuda stop. Weustenfeld then asked Stein how she
mailed her letters that she intended for the other side, and Stein re-
plied, "I always post them during the afternoon preceding the day on
which the Clipper leaves." She added that this is of little signi-
ficance now inasmuch as all Clippers, until December 1, would land in
Bermuda.
WEUSTENFEED the remarked that it was indeed fortunate that
Stein was not getting money. Stein then stated with reference to the
Clipper mail, that she believed the English are watching for her mail
at Bermuda. She then stated, "I still don*t believe what you said
about SAHTJERj that he is the Sawyer I know." Weustenfeld assured her
that what she said was correct, to which Stein replied that she knew
that Harry was very nervous, and that at the time he did not give an
address to her which she expected. WMSTiHFEID then remarked that the
reason Harry did what he did was because he did not have anything to do
and no income so he "stuck it into his OTTO pocket".
Stein remarked that it still was possible for her to get
some money, and that they "now owe her SSOO.OG* and that she hoped to
have a settlement of this by January or February.
TOUSTMFEID then remarked that the man whom she asked
with reference to Stein and Harry is on his way to Europe, and would
probably arrive there on that day or the following. Stein then asked
whether he went by ship or clipper, and when he left. Weustenfeld
replied that she could not exactly recall when she spoke to him, but
she believed that it was the day after, or the second day following
the day on which she called on her, Stein, last.
She did not disclose the name of this person or his posi-
tion. Stein later stated that she had received a telegram from
"them11 in which they referred to "Mary* and that indicates to her that
she is still in contact with them* She then stated that she still
heard from "the intelligence man". She then added, "I cannot go^
Washington now", (apparently referring to a visit to
Stein then remarked to WJEUSTENFEI2) that she sent a tele-
gram to "them" in August, and subsequent to that tine she was contacted
by HAHKI and he had asked her whether she had requested a reply in her
telegram, and she told him that she had not. Weustenfeld then remarked
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to Stein that she should refrain from constantly making inquiry over
there as to what is wrong} that she should wait now becauseshe had re-
ceived a reply. STEIN remarked that she knew that nothing was im-
possible as far as Harry was concerned, and that she was fully cogni-
zant of the international scope of this matter.
They then brought up the subject of telephone tapping,
and STEIN remarked that she did not believe that her telephone was
tapped. Weustenfeld assured her that this was only done in cases of
dose observation.
STEIN remarked that she did not undertake to work on
"airplane matters" because she did not know how, and added that she
worked to get information as to certain ships, such as the S* S
CEAMPLAIN and any English ships, and had contacted regularly almost
every two weeks. WEUSTHSFELD thereupon remarked that Stein probably
did acre than many of the others.
Stein then stated that her friend, 1
the arsry ir. Germany) had written a letter to her on October 7, and
that she would like to read it to W K U S T E N F E H U A part- of the letter
which is pertinent is as followst
I am now travelling a great deal in the Reich, and we
were for a long time in Hamburg, and while there I met your
dear friend who works in a business capacity in Hamburg.
I have had a good time with the U. S. General Consul during
an evening of entertainment.11 ';
Farther along In the letter, the following was heard:
"Recently I saw my friend, flflHUHB whose name you
no doubt aleo know, and h e a ^ o n e time was working in
New York, and also belongs to the International Clique."
Further along, the following statement was heard*-
"Are you still getting a great deal of8 mail from Germany or
is the boy from Vienna the only one.
Signed]
STEM stated that the friend referred to in Hamburg was
who last Sunnier was in China and whoa she believed is
doing the same type of work as she. Stein stated that this is rather
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obviou^nasmuch
tnat
as he is now stationed in Hamburg. She then stated
in tne German
flflflV"' Army* and that she is rather certain that
he is a5Ettffa"this kind of work* "because a letter of the type that he
wrote would not be permitted to go through if it were from an or-
dinary soldier*
At this tine WHJSTENFE2D is apparently examining the
letter, and states that there is no identification whatsoever that the
letter passed through the censor. The letter, however, apparently
bore a Russian stasg> or inscription. Weustenfeld then said that Hamburg
mist be a chief center of operations now to which STEIN replied,
"No - - also gave me an address in Cologne" (apparently referring to
SAS3TER).
WEdSTENFETJ) then expressed to Stein the hope that her
reports would go through and assured her that they still had faith
in her to which Stein remarked that "She could not understand why she
had to work free lance", to which WEUSTENFEtD said, "Well you can do
that. louMre a woman",
STEIN, however, reaarked that Harry had told her that it
was possible for a person who works with the organization to change
from one position to the other, and therefore it may be possible to
do so as a free lance. Weustenfeld made no reply, and Stein continued
by saying that "there are four divisions - Sabotage, Marine, Airplane
and Propaganda." : .
^ ^ ^ the subject and stated that she would
try to ^ ^ f l H m over inasmuch as he would be able to
bring along a few things although she realized that ae^is soiaewhat
stupid and could probably not learn some of these things. She stated
that he would be of greater service in the United States than he was
in Germany; that when he came arer he could bring along some securities
and would be a good source of propaganda; that she would send a *rather
b friend in Vienna in which she would r^e/r^/to^/.^
inasmuchas the friend knows hiau She stated
it there is a Bailing addrems in South Aaerica, but HARKI did not
give that to her inasmuch as he did not have it# ;
She contime^bjrjaying that the one great advantage in
in people l i k e g H H ^ p h a t sportawan of outstanding note like
readily- adiritteo^ntjo the United States, to M c h Weustenfeld
replied that theoretically the Americans want' to arrest all Germans in
the tJnited States to which Stein said that she is not so very much
scared of this, but that she really would hate to suffer from hunger.
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She added, however, that she believed her relatives


would help her th get some food, to irhich 1EUSTEMFE1D said, "What would
you say brought it all about11, to which Stein replied, that she would
say it was due to a faulty passport,
STEIN then assured WEOSTEMFEID that "they" (apparently
the United States authorities) cannot do anything to her because they
do not know what she wrote in her letters. STEIM stated that she is
not afraid, and added that from the very first day she did not like
that boy (apparently referring to HARKX).
After a pause, WEUSTENFEGD called him a scoiondrel. In
talking about a Power of Attorney, which she, Stein, was to send
over, she stated that she would write a brief letter requesting a
settlement from HEINRICH, and would send this letter via Japan.
The subject of the conversation was then changed, and It
is believed that BEUSTENFEED asked STEEN whether she had ever been
detained by the diatoms Officials, and Stein stated that she had had
that experience once on account of some cigarettes and securities*
She stated that she cane from London, and that upon her entry she was
detained for a short while and that It all arose because of torn illegal '
cigarettes, newspaper clippings and other thirds. She stated that a
Gestapo man told her that she should hare declared those articles, and
at the time she was told that, that she looked around and noticed
another man following her, and this man soon took her into custody.
She stated that she had on Jar person at that tiae newspaper clippings .
and plans, et cetera* She stated that while she was In custody, she
was brought before the superior official and was asked as to why she ,
didn't hare any papers of identification with her* She stated at this
time a Gestapo man entered, and was very cdurteotts to herj and ]
apologised* She further stated that he was detained froa 10i00 p.m.
to 300 p,m.; that she was taken from Hamburg to Cologne, and that
at 4*00 am at Cologne she was drinking coffee with the; Gestapo Agents;
that her great difficulty was that she did not have any money, but that
this was overcome and one of the men loaned her'25 Tteieh Marks, with
which to go to Hamburg} that she would never forget what happened in
Hamburg and how some of the members of the Gestapo laughed at her*
She stated that the first time she went out of Germany, she was searched
very thoroughly, but that she wasnH phased very much and acted very
pugnaciously* She stated that this did not affect the Gestapo agents,
and they extended a farewell to her when she left on the train; that
the next time she left, she could recognize the members of the Gestapo.
She continued by stating that one time Hamburg wanted to -
send her to England and that thi3 was before the war, but Vienna objected.
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wEOSTEHFETj) then stated that she could not quite under-
stand this, and STEIN explained that Hamburg -ranted to send her to
Sagland while Vienna wanted to send her to itogland as well as to America,
but since she had no English visa, and was unable to secure one at the
time, they sent her to Belgium first.
WEUSTENFEXD then stated that when they first told her
she thought that she would have heart failure, and she did not know
what to do, STEIN thereupon stated, "They always wrote nicely until
the swine came into the pictures.a
STEIN added that it could, however, be possible that some
of the letters from the other side which were irjtended for her were
detained in Bermuda.
WEOSTENFBID then changed the subject, and stated that at
her first opportunity she intended to go to India, and that she was
already saving money for that purpose. Stein stated that all letters
are not being censored, a n d ^ ^ ^ t o 5ile
e had especially found that out by
receiving the letters f r o m f l ^ m stated that this, however, afty
be the result of his doing the same type of k
WEUSTENFEJJ) thereupon asked whetherBMJpras just an
ordinary musketeer to which STEIN replied that he was not a musketeer
but an officer. Stein idded that she had received some letters from. .
Germany which did not even bear the usual nusiber*
Stein^adjfeustenfeldthen discussed the possibility of
Stein contacting j H H H p H j H ^ H H V Catholic Aid Society for the
purpose of seciirjS^T^osttigS^Tteto stated that she was rather
reluctant to give herself out as a Catholic inasmuch as her likelihood
of being considered a refugee was not as good. Stein stated that she
hoped that the war would be over by January, after which she would go
to South America for adventure.
Stein then stated that she hoped that shewouldsboneet
some money and if she didn't she would again have to a s k 0 H H H V
She stated that she had sent the telegram September 28, and that it was
possible that she had received a reply at the old residence, but that
the superintendent there had not called here*
|She stated that she was really very much puzadbed over a
loan who called on her the Sunday before last. She waited fot him to
say the pass word, buthefailedtb say t .She described; this man as
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being real German, but he would not give her any information as to
how he learned of her and he looked at her very closely.
1IE&STKNFEED stated that this man was probably not of
significance. Stein stated that he told her that he -would see her often,
and this aroused her curiosity, and she was sadly disappointed because
she did not hear him say the pass word. She stated that he was rather
nice looking$ that she was certain he was a Mnew man11. She stated that
she knew soaeone was coming, to which WJSUSTENFETD replied, "One will
come because this matter cannot be handled by telegram."
STEIN stated that this nan who called on her did not give
his name. She then stated that the EXOCHORDA and the EXCMBION had
come in but she had heard nothing* 1EJSTBNFEED said that he might
have talked with Barry and gotten her name. Weustenfeld also added that
Jim (undoubtedly DUQUESNE) would not cone around to see Stein, but that
they may send one of those aen "Whom I have seen*.
WEaSTENFEED then asked 5TEIK what
stated that she knew four men, one of whom was I
who "has been" here since 1926, and whoa she dMcriDeaasnaving green-
grayeyes. and of medium height. She then stated that the next nan was
m p h o n she described a3 being an eUderly aan soaewhat downtrodden
znappearance, stout build, and whohad_spent time In SouthAmei
that the third man she knew was H H | | who called bias elf |
(?) She described hint as bein^o5^ea^^neight, blue eyes, brown
face with straight, parted hair* She stated that the fourth man she:
knew was Captain 1TEGMER (?) who was in Europe and is a Sorth German
by extraction.. She described him as being *ii yotuigjj biit good look-
ing?, stating that he wore glasses, but not all of the tiaej had his '
hair parted, and was rather slender. Weustenfeld then asked Stein how
tall these men were in comparison to herself, whereupon Stein apologized
to Weustenfeld, and requested her to stand and Stein then made the
following statement*
"the doctor is shorter than you. Captain TJIXHE3IER is the
same height.* She stated that both of these men were slender, and
Weustenfeld then asked her if she knew anyone who was taller than
she, and Stein replied that the only person she knew who was taller
than she was HARRX.
WETJSTEKFEID replied that she knew someone that was taller
than she. Stein then stated that KOTZ (?) who is HEHRICH (SORAJJ) . ..
alias KXJRZ was here, to which Weustenfeld stated that she didn't know.
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him. Weustenfeld then asked Stein whethershe saw the man who signed
the letter which was brought over for M a U r e r 7 indistinct).
STEIN stated that this letter was given to her by HSEKRICH
Weustenfeld stated that she knew the *big shot" and added that the
letters that she received as "friend to friend" were written on the
same typewriter a3 those written to Stein. Stein then stated .that she
had probably not met Weustenfeldfs friend; that she had a letter from
Heinrich which she had kept and Stein then described the doctor as be-
ing a North German, but Weustenfeld did not know him. Weustenfeld
stated that her friend is rather tall, and Steia then stated that the
b* tallest person she knew was SCHNEIDER, whoa she described as 50 years
of age, and slight^rgrey^WEnSTENPErj) then stated that she did not
believe this wa3W///t/////////f1^0 is her real friend*
STEIN then advised WEUSTENFEID that she would get the one
letter that she had from Heinrich which she did not give to Harry* She
stated that she had torn up all the other letters, and that she would
nor try to find her only letter in rder that she sight coapare signa-
tures. She stated that it would take aoms 'tis!; before ?he could find
this letter*
After the rustling of paper was heard for a while, STEIN
remarked to Weustenfeld that she oould not help the delay. Stein,
while continuing to search, stated that the letter she had was posted
in Hew York, and that HEINRICH had apparently.given it to someone to
take to ^ew Tork and post. ,
She stated that she believes the letters which she re- ' ,-

ceived from HEINRICH were written on the sane machine as the letters
that she had received from her friend. She continued by stating that
she noticed that in HEIHRlCH'S letter the o-e combinations are written
out which indicates that it was an Anerican made typewriter. Stein
changed the subject, and advised Weustenfeld that all the letters she
received from Detroit she gave to Barry with the exception of the one
they are now looking at because she did not feel that she should trust
him with it* She then advised WEUSTENFED3 that she removed a typewriter
clipping with a considerable bit of adjacent material concerning TSU
GRIEBL, and his 500 Nazi spies who are here, for the purpose of round-
ing up information; that she mailed this to China*
After a pause, STEIH said, Dwar Sawyer - such a
swine.
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STEIN then asked Weustenfeld whether she ever sent any-
thing to China, and Weustenfeld stated, "TokioSv. Stein continued by
saying that all the letters that she had received from Detroit -were
signed by HEINRICH, and that she immediately transferred them to Harry
whereupon Weustenfeld replied that she also transferred letters, and
that it all at once stopped* WEOSTENFEID continued, "I had the stall
just like you, IAHy, and then someone came along to take i f *
Weustenfeld stated, "This is the only fault I have."
STEIN continued by stating that she believed that Harry
was definitely not in New Tork, and that she believed further that he
had contacted someone$ that he had told her not to tell anyone about
her meeting the Englishman, but she did write to Vienna about this
individual. She stated that she was very much worried about the fellow
who called on her, and that she was also worried about the letter which
she had written over there to which she had not received a reply.
UETJSTENFED) assured her that the war at the present
time was causing aany asore difficulties than she thinks. Weustenfeld
then added that cne gets various experiences, to which 6*tein re-
plied, "And you got more than I M
WEUSTESFEID denied that she had more experiences than
Stein, and added that they became angry with her, to which Stein said,
"You did the work". Weuatenfeld insisted that they became angry with
h e r . '.-- v ' . ' ' . . ' . '

At this time Weustenfeld states that it is 10:30 o'clock^


and that she Is getty ready to leave, Stein suggests to her that she .-'
make further inquiry for her. Weustenfeldstat'e4\^^t./s^;co*iid;._iiot."-,'.'
be too definite, and that she could say that she *lad beard this1' and
that Stein is here. Stein requested We that she
will send his name (probably referring __ and that he
could work* TTEUSTENFEII) then stated tha- them about
him, "and that he could work among us."
WELTSTEKFSID then left.

On January 29, 1941, ELSE WECFSTENFEED again visited


with LILLY. STEIN, and portions of the conversation which were heard
are as follows s- " :
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WEOSTiMFElD advised STEIN that she had heard by Air Mail
from HANS (Hitter) that this letter was mailed in Honolulu. She stated
that he did not write ouch.
fentered the apartanent, and WEUSTENFEED, in a
conversation with hia stated that she is not from the consulate, but
that she is employed by the confidential attorneys for the consulate;,
that it is wholly an American firs. WEOSTEMFEED remarked as to how the
Germans are being treated, and viewed with suspicion in the United
States, whereupon flHHreplied that this also referred to his people,
the Baasians. ShtnStated that It was not so bad for him because, "you
are 5ust a Russian on paper, just as I am an American on paper*.
Left, and WEUSTENFELD was heard to ask Stein
whether or not she had gotten any mail from Europe recently; and
Stein replied that she had gotten a letter Monday from a friend in
Vienna; that she had not written anything unusual*
S T U N talked about a trip which she is to make to Boston
with some ice skaters, and stated that she really lias no right tc go
tomorrow because the trip will xjost her at least $3OOOj that her
supply of money is so low; that she still has enough for February,
but "I do not know -what I will do for March*.
WEUSTEMFEID then says, "Maybe that will develop here",
and Stein asked, "Would you take a few lines along to be sent"1*
Weustenfeld replies *Ies% Stein remarks, "What I want to say is. this-
The English have bought.three Clippers, I have heard.n;*They will . .. ;
leave here with medicines and on the way back will bring pilots* Thteyv :
will land at New Foundland, and they will not land in England but in
Ireland*11 ' . . ; . .
STEIN continues, *I cannot write that very well in code.*
WEOSTENFETJ) replied, "Now if I take that along, the ship leaves on
the 31st, and it will arrive on about the 11th - in Germany, at its final
destination at about the 20th. * WEUSTENFEQ) added, "It could be sent
to my sister with the notation to be f orwarded". She continued that
the letter adght not be taken by her unless It is worded properly and
suggested to STEIN that she write, "Dear cousin or uncle" and Stein
then says, H I would like to know if I should continue to do this.
Thatfs why I*m writing this.'. J am not so mad about the money now be- .
cause I understand*, and WEOSTENFEU) adds, "They are not obligated now
because of the difficulties involved in seeding*11" Stein then adds '.-.'
that she.cannot live on what she is earning, and that' for instance, .
last week, she earned $12*00. She stated'that is not enough,- and, that
for a comforable living of the type she desires, at least |l25OO a
month is required. . .
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STEHf then says, "I am thankful for everything I got over
there (apparently German authorities), but I know that I have not done
much. I like to do i t because i t gave me an objective.*

WEUSTEKFEH) replied, "Yes.*1

After a pause, STEIN remarked that she i s not in contact


at the present time with anyone with whom she should not be. She
added that she i s quite certain that her telephone i s tapped. She
said, "I do not only beliere that my telephone i s tapped here, but also
over there (127 East 54th Street, apparently).*

flEUSTENFELD aked, "Do you think your own people did


i t . " Stein said, "surely, they wanted to know if I do what I said
I was to do."
Stein then continued to sjjjiak about how she had deter- s/
mined that her telephone was tgpped, and said that she has heard
noises when she wakes a call, and that periodically her telephone
would be free of these noises^ and that she therefore thought that i t
wasn't constant, :'
In dismissing the escape]
'who escaped f r g ^ j r n a n internment in Canada, Stein
said that she belieres theJMHM^family would be very glad to hear
of his escape to which WEDSTiwEpD said, "The entire German nation will,
because the report that we wrote" today will be received by ADOJJV I t
will becabledcrrerjtonight In code*" WEUSTEHFEID continued to speak
a b o u t | m m m ^ t & t e d that he had been over London more than 100 .
tines. '
WEDSTEHFEID stated that in a l e t t e r dated January 15,
which was mailed in Honolulu by .HANS he advised her that he did not
know whether he would be permit ted to go ashore in Honolulu as an
inhuman individual. WEOSTEHFEHf stated that she was disappointed be-
cause he did not write her as to why he was delayed to such an extent
in San Francisco. Stein assured Weustenfeld that he probably will
never write t h a t .

According to WEIJSTEHFE12), Hans i s now in Yokohama, and


that she would write to him via Clipperj that a Clipper leaves for
Yokohama once every week* , , ,
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WEUSTENFEED then adds, "Oh God if I could only get oat
of this country". Stein says, "Yes".
STEIN asked WEOSTENFEID whether she had also read in the
paper that Germany has 36,000 airplanes at its disposal which is four
tlaes as many as England has. Weustenfeld remarked that she knew that,
and that the reason England does not have any more is because America
has not been able to give much assistance due to the constant labor
trouble.
STEIN then asked Ti?EUSTENPEIi> whether she bad read any-
thing in the paper about two Germans who were removing names from
the United States Governaent files in Washington. Weustenfeld had no
knowledge of it, to which Stein expressed considerable surprise.
Stein then remarked that it really caused her a good laugh, and said
that it was done under the pretext of making up a mailing list for a
firm.
At this time STEIN was heard walking across the floor, and
asked ^SJSTBSFETJQ whether she needs an envelope, and also asked how
the letter should be addressed, "Dearest TJncle KSTURICK" and STEIN
says, "Yes, date it January 29 - not so?" WEDSTEHFEED replies, "Yes"*
STECH, whilejiapparently writing the note repeats the
following:-
"Dearest Uncle Heinrlch - January 29
Gladly I make use of the opportunity to write you."
UEUSTENFEID then interrupts and the following conversa-
tion took place:
YfEUSTENFEIDt Yes, but (it is to be noted that at this time the
scribbling of the pen on the paper could
be heard).
STEIN i Did you tell Hans about that book? Does he know about
it?
"WEUSTMFEIDt Yes # yes. At first, I told him everything. Then he
told me that I am making a mistake; that I call on you
too often; that I know too ouch; that I shouldn't see
you; that I shouldn't do this and I shouldn't do that.
A. long pause follows, during which the scribbling of the
pen continues.
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STEIN: (Reading - Dearest Uncle Heinrich - January 29


Gladly I make use of the opportunity to
write to you. I hope that you will aot let me wait too
long. I am feeling lonely and often I think of what
will "become of me. It makes me happy to think of what
I already have behind me. !hen I will be in my peaceful
home country, that all depends on you. The letters on
the long Journey may still be on their way.)
STEUSTEHFEID: (Interrupting) Yes, they can still be on their way.
STEIN: If he cannot understand that, he is stupid*
WEOSTENFELD: Yes.
STEIN j It ia good not so?
HEOSTENFEID* Yes.
STEIN I'm always glad when I receive news from them (apparently
German authorities)

STEIN then reaarked that she merely wanted to write a one-


page letter, and during a pause when the scribbling of the pen was heard,
STEIN asked whether she should read the letter, to which WEUSTEKFEID re-
plied that she merely wants to hear that portion of the letter which she
has not yet read. STEIN then reads as follows:
"I aa always very glad to receive news from you and
I know that you are always very busy. Please devote a few minutes -,
to me. I am feeling neglected and believe that you have forgotten
se* I am praying to God that He protect all of you and tJhat there
soon will be peace and even though It will not be possible for us
to see each other before but soon thereafter we will see each other
again. Y e s , . # ;

STEIN then apparently stops reading, and says to


1EUSTENFEID, "In Canada". STEIN then continues reading, as follows:
sending my greet! :s to all the acquaintances and
natural! r
(?) (-phonetic ,s sending her greetings to
you. Is still missing?"
STEIN then interrupts and asked TOOSTENFEID, "Is that.
good?*
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WEUSTENFEID: Yes.
STEIN continues to read, as follows :-
n
I am very sorry that I did not receive the last mail *
STEIN interrupts again and says, "That from Portugal".
STEDi continues to read -
n
m . . even though we unfortunately want It. Please do
not forget me. Take good care of yourself. All my
love and hearty greetings n

WEUSTENFEID interrupts, -while apparently observing STEIN


writing the complimentary close, and says, "Your niece". Stein says,
"That is ail - not so?" and WEDSTENFELD says, "TesH Thereafter the
following conversation takes plane
STEINt I believe this is brief and to the point.
WEUSTEHFEIDt You signed your name, didn't you?

STEIN: Yes.
VifEUSTENFEID: How I shall attach this to mine and give these along,
(Apparently to deliver to the messenger).
STEU* Are you sending this one with yours? Are you
writing a few lines to your sister?
IEUSTENFELD: Oh yes, I have writtentaysister a long letter.
STEINi Could you write on it that it (Stein's letter)
is to be forwarded?
WEOSTEHFEID: I will write a few lines on it.
STEOix To Hans?
1EOSTENFEJJ): Oh, no I write to my sister* Then I attach that
to it and it can go on over, and on one I write
the address*
STEIHt If it gets there on the 20th, that is in time.
WETJSTENFEIDs Then they can do what they want to with it*
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STETU* It Is their matter. ?u
WEUSTMFEED; I will tell him (apparently the, messenger) to mail
it immediately when he is in Germany.
STEIN: Xes, he won't mind a few pennies. Maybe I still
have a German stamp - I am certain.
STEIN is then heard to walk across the floor and return.
WEUSTENFEID: Is that a new handbag?
STEIN: No, it is from Vienna. I haven*t bought a bag here yet.
A brief pause follows and STEIN continues -
STEINs There she is, 25 pfennig. He can exchange it over
there* It costs 8 or 10 pfennig and he will have
enough postage for two letters. I will gladly give it
to him.
stated that she will also tell him
(the messenger) that he should register the letter, and added that
she wants to avoid giving that Hamburg address to her sister.
STEIN also stated that she signed the name "LILLT" to
the letter.
STEIN and WEUSTENFEED then discuss HARH? SAWYER/ and
STEIN expresses her belief that she does not think that he knows
where she lives now; that she is of the opinion, that at the last,
tine she saw him he was very nervous and wrought up about something*
WTOSTENFEID then conmented that if he actti&liy did as
STEIN says he did (take Stein1s funds), and was discharged from the
service, he is in much more danger, and has ouch more to worry about
than STEIN. '
IHJSTENFEH) says that she has also noticed from what
STEIN has told her that when he spoke about a certain woman, whose
name Weustenfeld did aot mention, he apparently was afraid that
some of these days she would "start talking"
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SJETM then-ranarked with reference to
t h a t he said there was something more behind i t . Ho d e t a i l s were given
as to t h e H f l H H H H H nor as to t h i s woman referred to by Weustenfeld.

STEIN then gives her l i f e h i s t o r y , stating that she lived


with her parents u n t i l she was twelve.years of are, a t vfrii ch time her
parents were separatedj t h a t f ran then on she was i n the custody of h e r
father for two years? t h a t when she was fourteen she had f u l l y broken
away from her family; t h a t when she was sixteen, she accompanied
FRITZIE (presently in Japan, married to a Japanese skater) to-jSt. "Morita*
STEIN s t a t e d t h a t she was brought up i n a very 6tupid fashion and was
guarded a l l the time; t h a t she had never been out on the s t r e e t un-
accompanied u n t i l ahe l e f t for S t . F o r i t z . STEIN added that she never
dared open her mouth a t home, and was kept under very s t r i c t d i c i p l i n e .

lEUSTBIFELT) then asked STEIN whether she csn r e c a l l ever


having seen HMS (HITTER). Stein stated that she cannot. Yfeustenfeld
explained to her tfhtt during the l a s t time t h a t she called on her, ^ans
had made i t a point to s e t a ood look a t Stein and therefore stood in
front of the entrance t o see her as she l e f t . In so doing he met her
a t which time STEIH took e look a t him, and then he turned back and
passed her again*

STEIN stated t h a t she cannot r e c a l l t-his experience*.


WEUSTENFELD stated that HANS i s shorter than she especially when she ~!'
wears high heel shoes. Stein then asked what .Hans was dressed l i k e t h a t .
evening. Stein became r e l a t i v e l y enthusiastic? about ^the incident and
says t h a t she w i l l discuss her experience further a f t e r consulting Jier
d i a r y . Stein then i s heard moving about-the room arid Weustenfeld asked ' >--
her i f she writes dowi where she was on each day, to which ,Stein gave an\
affirmative reply. , , .. \ . " ' * ' v '--
STEIN apparently then consulted the d i a r y and remarked -".
*.<
t h a t i t was a rainy evening about the 12th of September, and then . ..,.-
about two weeks l a t e r , about the end of September* WBTJSTENFELIX in turn .."''
called on S t e i n . Stein also stated t h a t since i t was a rainy evening ;.
when she called on Weustenfeld, Hans no doubt wore a trench coat'.
An Agent observed ELSE WEOSTEMFELD leaving the apartment
a t about 10J50 P.M. - . ' ' ' - , , : ' . " > * ' . ?'

On April 7, 19Ul ELSE TTCUSTENTELD again v i s i t e d LILLY


STEIH a t her apartment and during the conversation the following p e r t i n -
ent portions were noted: - , ' * / '

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Upon entering the apartment EISE advised that she was


l a t e because she had been ordering hats on 38th S t r e e t , and when she
l e f t the establishment i t -was six ofclock < . . - " . . - . ' - - _

WETJSTENFELD then remarked that the war scare in the . '


United States i s growing: and that today a member of the German Consulate,- 7-*;
in an attempt to secure"a better view of the English "battleship which was
anchored in the New Tork harbor, asked the building management for peraiss- >.- :
ion to go into another room, which -was not occupied by the Consulate*
The Building manager made inquiry of her as to whether she was employed by '.
the Consulate and when she replied that this individual was so employed,
the building management refused permission to use the room*

raJSTEMFELD asked Stein whether "the iranM is here again.


STEIN paused, and then asked Weustenfeld whom she meant, but before she
could reply, Stein remarked, ^ m p t h e Englishman from Bermuda, i s here
and has called n e , " Stein s tatejltthai! he told her that he was going to
En-land on a ship which was to s a i l Wednesday, and that he had already
boarded i t when he received a wire from his boss which ordered him to
stay here. Stein stated that he ray potoEnglaad next week. According
to Stein, aurii her conversation m t h f l H | he told her .that te would
see her i'ndr a l l circumstances before nejLeaves. Stein remarked that
this appears rather stupid to her and certainly suspicious.

Stein then asked Weusienfsld a b o u t h e r f r i e n d s , without


naming any of them, and Weusteni'eid replied ^ " " ^ f l J H H J v had received a" - .
l e t t e r from her husband in Chic|to requesting hertocoBHMSo Chicago -
immedia-elv "because her i d i o t husband wants a divorce* Weustenfeld stated t h s t ^
""* w i l l probably regret having done t h i | , inasmuch as she/had
'order"for a large church p o r t r a i t , and, as 0. result of t h i s t r i p . ^
she r i l l probably lose the order, . - . < j -. _ ",' . ,. ^ ..;
, ' , - ' ' /..:-.ji?
After a considerable pause, Weustejxfelai continues-the ,-./ -/;" :.'?
conversation by saying, "Man, "I wish I were out of* here*" Steiii ' - ' v ;.->iv5:l
.thereupon asks ifeustenfeia whether'she'had gotten" everythings r.ea'dy ' - \ ; 4'.,;lfi;'
to leave, encLWeustenfeld replied that she hasn't^ .'and that" she" will '^ ; ^ ^1'^;'
have to do considerable purchasing y e t . r Stein then remarked .4jhet sh^y.^-J'. '-%>?
i s s t i l l getting along, as poorly as she.always did, and flI Have nafr'"'-. yr\
heard icnythins; from the other "side - nothirr-, nothing, .nothings*
Stein is apparently refen-ing to funds. Weustenfeld then offers to pay ,
for her'dinner, and Stein .tells her not to be idiotic-and refuses.to
accept the""offer .-.'... ' ,, - . - - *'",'.',

Ys'eustenfeld then continues, saying "poor Eans w a s . s t i l l .


in Shanghai pn March the f i f t h . He was' out of money and I cable4 him 'and
i t cost me $7*lUB Weustenf eld stated t h a t it- is beooming rather, dif fr - " ' ' -,-.
i c u l t a l l over the world a-fe the present time; but- SteSji makes no reply + /'
except to agree* - r ^.'-','.'f ' "*x ".:* ' ". " ^h-:'t.':/^''^:''t'^V**'.^')

- ,' Stein started, thai; 'she i s ve.rjrusuoh *}l-sap$dl1[i


stajy^^tiK^^Mi^ied^^tates^M^^^ai^sl^, beli^ve^s, ^hat,1 if, she
^^^^^^^^^^HHpmmmimmpwoial^l ass^is.^ iei* |ni-getting to
, America." Weutftenfeld remarked-that-it .would be' much, ia' the benefit *of
Stein if she would go there because she iwo.uldaie.et, dT|fferentv people .and'
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would find l i f e much more pleasant. " k pause, follows.

. - y . ;." , -'Weustenfeld then continues, "Now, u n t i l t get across I .


go for you to^Cologne, I would go to Cologne :anyrayV\anci:.there 1 wait
u n t i l I see your Heinrich. After I 'hive- seen '. hisy':1 wiltproceed on my ,
way." Steic r e p l i e s , ..*! want to tell'you this -i-as rnust make up o$e--jv ' -Y
thing .asuo Jhow he . (Eeicri*c.h} is to telegraph. He did,not,vns;wer/three-' ,.-;,-
of siy'questions** Weusteiifeld says, "yes, we'll see sech otHer iiexi'week
and I ' l l invite you to the thin* - - I l i k e it,well Castle ftall
..(possibly EilT) }J lilce i t '.real well.**1 -'.Stein -replies;- "I., do, too ;.
one 'Ms l o t s of -"roam there." "Weusteiifeld then says, ttPid I t e l l you I
will -et e bonus?" Stein, remarked that she didn't but was very glad to
hear, that .she woi:l^h^^ft|jm^d_bj^|jy? boss in t hiat'.manner *.. /eustenfeid
then* stated that f H H H I H ^ ^ p h a d impressed, upon "their hearts"
that "we, are to lea-p-e and he. told me that- I will f.et my passport and/'
that they will drive up my visa i t m i l not be necessary for me .to
pay any .taxes.-for 19U1 an'd I have given an explanation, jj^trrl-ey]went .
there a n d s a i d , *This is one of our girls* so thst i s taken care of."
Stein then eske, "Is your s i s t e r going, along," and VfeustenTeld asked,
"On Doerd?" Before Stein could reply,' Weusterfeld continues by saying,
"fhO, eai^d I should extend her greetings to Lilly." Steir gave an
affirmative reply end requested Vteusterifeld to t e l l her eister to send
her (Stein) a card notifying her that Weuster.feld has left with these
vrorde, "Tly s i s t e r extcrds her .^reetjn^s" and t ' at i t vail not be necess-
ary that this card, since il will be open corrftspondence, t e a r a signature
or (x nffi^e.

stated that^^^^Bjapperently had given the


matter of presenting her v.-ith a bonus mucn^xnou^ht and f i r a l l y agreed to
rive her A ioo*00. "WsterfeOd stated that she was ujuch
such a reader bonus, and pointed out to
"ettinf, (O 00.00. Weusterife] d explained sh e
hed worked for him five and a "half yep.rs only worked for ,i
him two years. "Weustenfeld also stated that only taken a fourteen V"t
day .vacation onoe during her period of employment\ .that she -is . ^ ^
convinced that her services were worth _1 00 a yearflflHHHHp After
three days, according; to ?*'eustenf eld lapproaohed n e j ^ S c ^ ^ a t e s
that he was going to present her with, -a,bonus of $250.00. Weustenfeld i s
very muoh elated over t h i s , and added that this bonus pays for her voyage
and will also ci^ehersorae extra money, Weustenfeld believes that through
her a g i t a t i o n B B B B | j ^ H | ^ B i ^ ^ r e ^ ^ e d a 25.00 increase in her bonus.
According to ' M m o r n Q T V ^ H ^ P h a s a haua in Hew York and is
deriving; an income f r o n v ^ T y r e n T a j ^ i t . out and she will remain in the
United States v3iileMHBB*will ecconpany Weustenfeld to Germany.

SteJ.n"then asked. Weustenfeld when she wil} discontinue her


v.rork and Weustenfeld replied, "I work t h i s week and -bhe entire next week .', '
and the other week I naturally do not work".. I*no.Unpack then." Weustenfeld.
continued by ,'s tatin'g that her landlady (indistinct), has -a large,-trunk ';/.
v.'hich she-will" borrow, which-has-three sheives "WJd^ftcccnwBrodates a large ^ '^'
nunLer of grcall items. Weustenfeld stated, she Wf .also in1;en,ding to take
along a'.large packing case of foodstuffs/.eonsis'tiii^ of evaporated milk,
"flourT sTix dozen bars" of eoap, spices, potatoes, "Crisc'o and sugar.
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"fieustenfeld s t a t e d the .'remainder of |er personal belongings, which she


intends to take albngi; she w i l l pack i r a steamer' trunk, and a l l other
. a r t i c l e s which- she may have she w i l l leave here w i t h ' h e r s i s t e r . "
Weustenfe]d continued by s t a t i n g t h a t she has a l s o purchased some .
clothes and t h a t she-..is specially well pleased with the bltie gabardine
s u i t and with the dress she bought. Stein then s\i%z&&te&..-to 7feustenfeld
t h a t she take some" shoes", woolen k n i t t i n r y u m , and" some 'shoe'sole l e a t h e r ,
\feiistenfeld agreed, t h a t she should .do-that, and added t h a t she w i l t buy a
great many things during, the l e s t week h e r e , "ffeusi-enfeld a l s o . said..that
she i s well s a t i s f i e d with her f i n a n c e s , and t h a t she has already paid for
the ship passage end. has H^OtQO l e f t over, and t h a t in the event she cannot
^ e s u f f i c i e n t amount to l i v e on for three or four y e a r s , and
jj^j told her t h a t she cannot, go he w i l l help her as long as he
can. Stein s t a t e d t h a t she i s very envious of Ifeustenfeld, t o which
Weustenfe.ld r e p l i e d t h a t she cannot do anything without, e f f o r t . S t e i n then
remarked, HJ am so mad.w< ' ' ,

Weustecfeld r e p l i e s , "If you could only get to South


Aiierica - - (a s l i g h t pause follows) the girln there have a f o u r - i n c h
waist l i n e ' and ineh-and-a-half thick steaks a t c o c k t a i l ' p a r t i e s . You need
only e a t . m e a t . t o beccoe s l a n d e r " . Stein r e p l i e s , "I do not believe i t . "

f<eustenf eld s a y s , "Just meat and eggs you need no


f r u i t or v e g e t a b l e s . B Stein laugh& and says, "That is a l l wrong '
t h a t i s j u s t t a l k . " Inothei* pause then follows. Sieiii continues,
"Tell him ( E e i n r i c h ) not t o leave me i n the l u r c h " , t o which,Weilstenfeld
" eays, "I w i l l ' t e l l him to attend, to i t by all'means (something''Indistinct)
in order t h a t you may get away," Stein says, "Tell him a normal person
cannot, stand t h i s . " Weuetenfeld r e p l i e d , "I w i l l not, t e l l hm,\ i t - i s .
(remainder of sentence inaudible due t o Weustenfel'lfla* l a v g h t e r . "

,- . STFIN continues t h e conversation by s t a t i n g , n Tell him


t o do something t o ^ive me the opportunity of going to South teerica'or
something," to which WeustenfeId s a y s , "So you can g e t out; of h e r e . " S-frein . -
then says, "If I an to stey here under fill o i r c u n s t e n c e s , he i s a t l e a s t to
advise me.. He i s a t l e a s t t o advise roe whether I have been given up for the
time being or what. I want t o know "what i s the m a t t e r . " " Weustenfeld
r e n l i e s , "I -will t e l ) him about t h i s matter which we discussed in' corunon."
Stein s a y s , You must find out what he t h i n k s . " 7eu.stenfeld gave an .
affirmative r e p l y , and S t e i n added, ."In order t h a t I^otow1* and then VfeustenfeJd
s a y s , "Child, i f I could""talk with.;the brother of Hans R i t t e r , t h a t would be
much more importent beccuse I can t a l k such b e t t e r with him, you know
if I cannot get ahold of Heinrich, -then I f i r s t go up t o Hans-and ask
him about h i s b r o t h e r . I f he i s home t h e n . I could <zo to Hamburg and
could s e t t l e the i r a t t e r with him regarding you and return. 1 ? Stein r e p l i e s ; -
in the affirroati-ye, and Weustenfeld continues : by s a y i n ^ ^ ^ e l l i thitt I . : . r H
prorrise you, L i l l y . I w i l l f i r s t t r a v e l for you.? Stein sighs aiid! s a y s , ' ' .
somewhat i n d i s t i n c t l y , "I en extremely h a p p y . . , , y e s , o r I would*die."-.
Weustenfeld s t a t e d , "That I w i l l do. I have already, t a k e n . t h a t "upon myself.
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We (apparently Weustenfeld a n d | H H H H i V will g# r c m Paris .via Cologne


and then we will ret off at CojT5ne^H^be\i-t; ifiil'i': W necessary to'go to "
my sister's,'Which i s ;;jus.t two" train statiana away, or maybe I must, go >o -
Ferin (phonetic) or maybe to Hamburg. If I -want to dispose of this matter,
then I must go." A pause follows. Stein continues "by saying, You need not . v
five your right name", to which Weustenfeld replies, "I 'am going t o ' t e l l ^ ''
the
M
truth. I am going to. give my name in ....'* Stein interrupts,ftad Jsays,';"
Fe knows your name . . . . he told me i t . . . , he knows your nume." *
Weustenfeld s t a t e s , "He will accept me with pleasure." Stein then remarks.' ; :
"I tn.ow'' then t e l l him about the,mire concerning Harry and everything, ';/-'".
else", whereupon Weustecfeld says, "I want to see Nichol (apparently Hitter's
brother) in this regard beoause he has sent you. This matter comes from
him that-1B definitely the case* Lilly. You do not knowjiia.11 Stein , .
replies, "No, definitely not." Weustenfeld then continues by^aying, !lAs t o - -
this matter mainly, I can talk'with him. T can -wrap that boy "around my ' 'J>:->
fir.srer." To t h i s , Stein'remarks, "You can probably do the other one the . ">%;,
seme way. Fe's very nice.1* Wenetenfeld gives en affirmative reply,B and 'I;*-.*
Stelr. continues by saying., "What rip you thinjc of the stupid "ooaipient| -
(P+ein evidently i s referrine; to H H B B affair) f Weustenfeid ,' -
soys, "Yes?" and Stejn continues,^But^^^^Bis very nice about it
Kaybe you will see him again, ^'aybe y o o f f l . be over here ag;ain.
5s the conversation by remarking,.
somewhat indistinctly, "Harry probablyhas "cashed -JLai* to which"
replies, ,"Tha1; I,do not knowi fhejjiyrob&bly .wty\X'i^r:1,-do p.-1- "~"
' ^ t t

Then says, "When I *V*ivei I ^ 1 1 write *ad .ia


aunt and the aunt said
"If you talk td Heinrich, , ^reustenfeld-
says, "Then you will .know defini X have already',-discussft4' this
vdth my s i s t e r . ''"I say",--'*I" arrived on such'end such a date*','and ,
take the f j r s t -digit"in the date* That, for instance, isjToday
is the-fifth. , I an finally on home
by this'.date'end select the1'corresponding word in etaVh'.'sentene. If I""'
Arrived on the fifteenth,, then you tai:e the digit bne^ aM.i %&TJr&.te .in-.;'J-'f
the .first word, o.f eaeh'.eentenoe.. I t [i.a th,e t .first'word -*of each'fente'noe:1 .",',
that is de^iuite."- Sliein replies, **If jrbti write that i t is thiB^v...*- V-'
tenth, then^it'.is the^first word. If you wr^te that i t is .the twehiiei'th, .
then i t is the seoond'word." .Weustenfeld^ replies,' "if Isay^on tife fifth
I go, or If I ay"r-have just a'rrivedi dear Lilly, end it_ie tfee ''fifta;i *""7
then i t is the fifth word. When-it is a two-dip.it date, then always,'select
the f i r s t d i g i t . Thus, for the 81st, the 22nd,. or the 27th, i t is th ' , ,
same word in the sentence." Stein replies, "Oh, yes, always the se'dond " :*>
word. Weuatenfeld continues to explain by-saying, fhenvyou ijake the
second word pt each sentenoe, set the words 41bo^etr;er in .the.order i,n
they app^ar^""end'.you*iXJ have a eomplete/se^enc^..,-!: will "jaafab'^oi
sentence's^"--' I fietre done that-wit!) my si^teri'/^h'e'e'aijd 'Bhel'waHted^to kn^ir --Ai',-
whiti; was wrong," ni.?loz>g pause f oll<rws*and-id^efr Steiix" aays,"i 'do^'hot. ixave'.
any money wj't}x:wh|ih' io' travel.? Stein.continves., -*Wheo ypv,^ave" sjioke^.i "'
with Feinrich, you write, as a^ obukin." .');' ' : -.,;.; ,'j> "]- '.' . -".''.

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' Stein than states that she cannot understand why the people.
know so "damned much" about her, and add, "That must be due to H ^ "
(Stein is referring to Harry). Weustenfeld gives an affinaative reply,
and Stein s&yd, "That is very unfortunate and it is due to that damned guy."
The conversation then becomes somewhat^jdistinct, and .-Stein states that
in February she was shown a picture o^HHjjjJlfi11 ^.e paper and was asked
whether she kner him, and she stated the^sneaidn' t but she did admit
that ehe '-Has Lilly Stein. Stein stated that she is very suspicious of
that Instance, and Weustenfeld told her that it might possibly have been
better if she had even denied her identity. Stein further stated,- "He
(apparently Harry) always inquired about the other people on the grounds
that he wanted to know who is all in this*" *
Stein then repeats her request to Weustenfeld that she should
as Heinrich to let her go to South America or "somewhere".* Stein then '' >
apparently refers to the questions which Heinrich did not answer, and
tells Weustenfeld how these wires whauld be composed in order to indicate
answers to her questions. Stein says that if she is to stick it out,-,the
wire sent to her should read, "Need affidavit urgently*1 and should be'? \
signed as aunt with the' name given. If Stein is to come, the wire should
read, "Need passage urgently11 and should be signed as aunt./if-they .are -*
still interested and want Stein to continue to work, the wire' ^should read, -
"Papers, ticket and affidavit" and sttouid be signed as aunt. / Weustcnfeld . <
replied, "I will have to write those down" and Stein agreed that she'should.
During this particular discussion, Stein and Weustenfeld argued a great/deal'
about the wording of these messages and their final decision in that regard
could not be definitely concluded. Stein then continued by saying, "I
would be very"thankful, even though'! have "been given up, if they would
only pull me out of here, if I only knew *hat H. is and if, I only\Jaew .
how the 0. matter stands." From the conversation Jills' concluded that
H. refers to Harry, and 0. refers tc
^continues be stating that some-people have told ' h W that ,rvlx*:
she should put her cards on the table, but Stein .says/ B Ocarina t do* it " ""
The conversation at this time becomes general and Stein states
that she would like to have a visa so she could travel but she does not-
know what she would do with it since she has no money; Weustenfeld. Vv~-
suggested-to Stein that she put up "a long sob'story" to one of her boy
friends and she may be successful in getting some money. Stein then states
that Ltonique Simon has been preparing to go to California, but apparently
has given up her plans inasmuch as her boy frierid has returned to New York.
A Fause follows. .'..'.' A -
. , .. Stein .says, "Tell themj that I- have .not done'.ahytMng e*ver{ .. ,
though he did talk-suspiciou'aiy." ^ It is believed ;th6 >Vthis ; tine "
asked-* Stein whether >he had a code, but Steih.made no audible v.

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Stein also stated that in her last letter she addressed him as "Dear Heinrich"
and Stein suggested to Weustenfeld that in the event she writes.'to him, the
letter should be without a signature, but if Weustenfeld writes to {Stein, the
letter should be signed, "Your cousin." : . . '

Stein spoke then o f f m ^ a n d states that he was either suspicious


and she became suspicious with him, or he had gotten into grave trouble and
wanted to drag her into it be mentioning her name. Stein also said that since
August she has had nothing to do withhim, and she regrets that* she ever gave -
her new address to "them" (apparently the German authorities.) Weustenfeld
answers, "Yes", and Stein then says, "You tell Heinrich that If it mist be it
will be all right. Tell him to let me know about South America or something.11

At this time Stein and Weustenfeld spoke about washing dishes, and
from the noise in the apartment, it was concluded that ifcliis was being done.

Stein stated that her great trouble here in America is that she
does not know what to do, and added, "I aa fully fed up and very nervous."

Weustenfeld then discusses Stein's cooking and complimented her on , -


the way aiie prepares gravies- Vfeustenfeld.then asked Stein whether she had ,
a picture of Monique's daughter, and Stein replied that she dian't but she
could easily get one from Monique. Stein then left her apariaient and returned
a few minutes later, apparently with a picture* <?-' ,

Weustenfeld then asks Stein how much she owes on the furniture and
she replies that she owes $80.00 and that originally the furniture cost over '
$200.00, and so far she has paid $20.00 in interest. Stein then itemizes the
cost of the furniture, and says that.the bed cost $40.00, the'table $30.00,
and that the other.two items cost $40.00 and #35.00 eachj and; that she also
bought three chairs. Stein states that she dreads to see summer come because
it is during that time that all her friends leave the city and she finds it
very herd to make ends meet. Weustenfeld suggested to Stein that she can
avoid this by moving into a boarding house.

Stein then says, "If I had only known this list November when I got
the money, I could have changed my ways.*1 Stein stated,that she also could
have discontinued at that time very easily, and that she still doesn't
understand why she hasn't received a letter or a telegram reading, "That's
all Lilly, letter on the way. Signed Heinrich."

Weustenfeld stated that if Stein knew more about the H. and 0.


matters, it would be better. Weustenfeld also said that she' sees-A relatively
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bright I94I for Stein and that she does not believe that matters will
turn out to of a dangerous character. Stein replied, *I. d&jdii't do anything
dangerous. The only damned thing that happened was they mailed those
letters to my address., because if I am suspicious it may be that they
opened these letters." Weustenfeld then said, "Ihen I am on the steamer .
I will write all of this down," to which Stein replies, "Yes, when you. .
are out of the Bermuda zone."

UEUSTENFELD continues, saying, "The only tiling that breaks


my mind is the thought that Harry also got tho address. They always'
said if a man is denied his fatherland for the purpose of making money,
he never is trusted again. You will hear that again and again, Lilly."
Stein replies, "0. told me that he would not hava come tack if he were me."
Weustenfeld then says, "But if war breaks out?" to which Stein replies,
"They will have i"2 in an internement camp." /

Stein then asked Weustenfeld whether she will wire her sister
as to her arrival in Germany, and Weustenfeld stated that'she probably
would, but from this country. Stein, while apparently handing something
to Weustenfeld, remarked, "This is Heinrich's address. That is the most
important." Weustenfeld stated tlst she 'Would take the address down and
' that she would speii ihe last hams backwards,; en:1 Stfi5n suggested to her
that she not write the first name at all because she can remember it.
Weustenfeld then remarks, "If you could only get out of .ttits damned country"
and added that no one could get into a worse mess than by "coming into the '
United States. Stein stated she wishes.she was in South America now, to
which Weustenfeld states that it looks very suspicious when one now goes 1 -
from here to Geimany. Stein stated that she has always been a "normal',1 girl
bat now her relatives talk about her very much, which she dislikes'*. * - - '-'.

WEUSTENIELD then asked Stein for the picture of JlONIQUE SBTOR'S -!


daughter, and Stein replies that-she has secured one from Simon, but she
did not have any that were autographed. Stein stated that the picture she
is giving to weustenfeld for her sister in Germany is autographed but that
she had imitated Siiaone Simon's signature. Weustsnfeld laughed at this but
stated that it makes no difference inasmuch as it aannot be told from t-he t.
original.. .'.'.- ' . .- .; ; '..:.' ' ",

At this time, Stein is apparently showing some towels and linens


to Weustenfeld, and stated that she would fee glad to give her a large'.number
of towels and a lunhhenn set for six. Weustenfeld, while apparently .examining
them,.noticed that they, bore the monogram "S", arid remarked that she does'not '
believe that she will be able to take out gcods marked like, that. Stein , -*
assured her .that no difficulty would be,experienced. Weustenfeld .than ,
apparently agreed to take th3 luncheon set, after Stein had'assiarftd"her-that V
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she would find a use for it in Germany, and Stein also'wished her the best
of luck in getting across the ocean with the material. Weustenfeld assured
Stein that it probably would not be too long before Stein would also leave.

Stein at this point received a telephone call which she answered.


WEUStENFEED then asked Stein what kind of a debt she was concerned with,
apparently referring to'something that was said in the telephone conversation
and Stein stated that it was a long story much to long for her to tell,
but stated that she would disclose very briefly some of the more important
details. Stein stated she took a piece of jewelry out, of Vienna for the :
omier and left it in Paris, where she had secured a loan upon it.,- Stein
further stated that a few weeks age, the trner approached her and stated
that he had come to America just recently and would now like to have his
piece of jewelry back. She stated to him that she did not have this piece
of jewelry with her, but that it was on the way to the United States via
South America. *

Stein further stated that he wants to be present next Thursday


when she pays the debt back to H H ^ H ^ ^ H H F a t which time she will receive
the piece of jewelry to present^MMJ^^^eust-enfeld suggested that Stein
be very careful when negotiating"with pieces of jewelry and should demand
a receipt. Yfeustenfeld further.suggested, .tnat on the receipt a description* -"-
of the piece of jewelry should app^arj that it should be witnessed; and that '
beneath the signature of the person receiving the jewelry, thefce should
appear the words, "Guardian of the above."

STEIE complains about her nervousness and how much disappointed she
is with her life, and Weustenfeld consoles her by telling her that in
Anerica most" of the people arelike her and, as a result, neny of them are ' '
sick, and that his has been shown by the fact that only 52^ of those
examined are suitable for Army service.

Weustenfeld asked Stein what the English artist is doing, and Stein
replied thit he is still taking her out but he "has hot given her much
consolation with reference to her worries. Stein stated that at one time
she tcld him about her worries, and he told her *ha'she should worry about
those" people who have.many. JEdre , worries than she'has.

Stein advises-Weustenfeld that she has not been successful in gettirg


matters straightened out at the Express Exchange, and asks Weustenfeld whether
she has seen the new list. Stein apparently hands a list of prices to Weusten-
feld and the, latter then reads^ Materials for Shirts, wool for knitting men's
socks, four pairs of ladies stockings, pure silk ; fp7OQ$ material for over-'..
coats, ladies or gentlemen's $35OO. Weustenfeld and Stein then Comment
upon the prices of these- artitJlesrand both 'agree. that ladies' hosiery, at .':',"?**'.
almost $2.00 a pair.is father high. Stein-suggested to Weugtehfeld*that -he -
take along,a Considerable quantity of tea and cocoa, and also suggested to her
that she could probably send, via the Express Exchange, certain articles.
Weustenfeld stated that she would not have anything to do with the Express -.
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Exchange Isec&xise her' off ice -will not dp- business with them inasmuch; .as
they are Jews and her office i s n ' t Jewish. Weustenfeld stated that'she
i s taking along withher shoe sole leather arid food for eight people,
and that she is intending to leave her .fumittire" i d t h her s i s t e r .

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8TEIM atated that she canaot Imagine seeing


Weustenfeld leave, and adds that she belieres -mat in six. weeks _
she will be able to get out all right, but Stein does not believe
that she'U be successful in leaving. \
WKFSTENFELD also stated that she is very proud of her
HANS and that he never took her to a lowly drinking place, despite the
fact that he knew the operator of the Zur Quelle Restaurant. Weusten feld
continued by saying that all in all she has, not met very pleasant;.
people in the United States, and asked Stein irheiiier she had. Stein
replied in the negative* "*
The current news is then discussed by Weustenf eld and
Stein, and Weustenfeld states that even though they may laugh at
Hitler's invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece at this time, nevertheless
in four weeks he will be master of those couatrie*.!
Weustenfeld states that Hans met!
in Japan. Weustenfeld then reads to Stein Hans etter, dated
March 5th, a brief summary of which follows - -

r Ifeusy - - I am glad that I have Japan behind me. The


Chinese are much nicer and much more friendly. I am living in
a hotel in a portion of Shanghai, which is occupied by Japan.
It is near the International Settlement^ where the flags of
b all nations peacefully fly in the wind. The Chinese sections of
the city remind one of Mexico* They are dirty and opium dtn are
now prevalent since the Japanese have again legalised opium.
In Harbin, I will bw for two days and then. I will start to wait for
my Russian visa. "What is this that I am reading - -German
diplomats told to pack up. Is that another exaggerationjghich Is
so common to the United States,*. I am hoping ' t ^'4flflHv"ill
settle with me soon. If you need any money, contac^oiS^ Tell the
people of the Consulate not to buy anything in the United States
because everything ii from one-third to one-half as high here. Silks
they should buy in Japan. DmtiLng ay stay ifaere I hare experienced
a good earthquake and the shelves in the store shook and a nearby
old factory building was destroyed, H ^ ^ j y ^ u r of its employees
instantly. Recently X had luncheon f H m ^ ( p h o n e t i c ) * -
You know he is the fellow from Berltnwnowrote the interesting
article for the Times.
65-1819

Hearty greetings,
Tour,
Popsie

Weustenfeld then reads another letter she received


from Haaa, which is dated February 26th, a brief suawary of
which follower*

Dear Mausy-Fausy - - I went to Bsbi for three days and while


there I visited some very interesting friends. Saturday the
German theatre group gave a presentation here and everyone
was dressed in a smoker* Of course, your Popsie didn't have
one but the dark suit sure looks all right. The presentation
could not be beaten and all the members of the press heard it.
Here I am on the formsr Eronprlniessin Cecilie and I am longing
for land* I hope that it will not be necessaryfor you to pay
duty on you kimono, -which I hare purchased for you at the
kimono market*. X can just,see you on the lounge with your kimino
without your Popsie. fin March 24th I will leave Harbin. I
hope the business is still in existence* The opinion here seems
t* be that the Americans are just bluffing about the war and
that they don't dare to get bold in: the Atlantic and the /
Pacific at the same time. lou asked me about air mail the last
time* I suggset tkat you not use it. The English get all of
it. There is only one course available and either you or
Kaufman have the address. Tomorrow morning at ten o'clock we'll
be at the mouth of the Yangtze Hirer and then we proceed to
the city of Shanghai, which is supposed to be a den of iniquity*
Greetings. . "-' ' ' ' - " - V * " '- \r-:-':''

Weustenfeld stated that she had paid orer $4.00 duty


on the kimano and that a few days ago she.got the following wire -
WIRE &> TO MTlCmL CITY BAM SHANGHAI FOR. AGCOUHT
OF K3QHO (?) CONTINUE OF JODESEI IMPOSSIBLE 0THB8SHSE
HAVE REQUESTED f r "
Weustenfeld hopes that she has been successful in transmitting thefunds
to him. - -. . - -
65-1819

STEffi stated that she has given all the infornation


that It is necessary for Weustenfeld to have, and that she no longer
has any of Heinrich's letters? in the apartment, and that she has
destroyed them all. Stein also stated that she has letters from *ar-
which criticises the English rery sharply but she does not believe
that any harm will cose fro* that inasmuch as he is in the Array over
there. Weustenfeld stated that one can never tell what will happen
because "they watch one a long time before they strike.9
Weustenfeld then asked flflH^ had noticed about
Stia and Stein replied thaitoe apparently hadn't because he didntt
say anything. Weustenfeld said that one thing that impressed her very
peculiarly was that aa long as she was with Hani he told her to avoid
associating with Stein, but since then she has discovered that he knew
about Harry an d what it meant to saaeone who associates with hia.
Stein remarks, "And that thought is a o W o n to me at night." Stein
also stated that she couldn't understand hair it came to pass that he was
able to rake up funds with which to pay her telephone bill after he
had at first told her that he didn't have any monejr but would try to
get seas. /nstenfeld replies, "The other side paid for that so they
could listen to you** Stein states, "I always say I hart friends in
Germany who have funds and % learned to nknow Barry becasuse he fought
some money. Weustenfeld then remarks, "The great trouble is that you
do not hare any witnesses.i. Lilly, if you ij&nk it over, you don't
know anything about this work. Tou cannot tell whether that fallow
didn't observe you closely and then told fairy stories about you." Stein
then replies, "Certainly JB. stupid - - I'a the greatest one.. XC
is peculiar that they know so fanned auoh. about as aad the watch*
Weustenfeld then says, "They sometimes wait a long time until they have
the actual facts - .-. they know exactly what was wrong* V

At 9*55 Stin aakesan outgoing call to sad


asks him whether she should coae over for the party, es
hla that she will be orer shortly.
Weustenfeld stated that she would see Stein next ''
week and that they would hve dinner at Castle Hill and tha^ after that
they-woiald go t o ^ ^ i n ' s place, if possible. Stein stated that she might
possibly have B m P > v e r , aad Weuatiafeld requested Stein nat to tell
him anything about her* ffeustenfeld then asks Stein if she i s going
out with her frcm the apartment, and Btein replied that she. gladly would
do so, unless Weustenfeld did not deea i t desireable. feustehfeW stated
that she had no objections and add id that she would take aiaad, after
she got on the street to avoid carrying the heavy parcel too far, .' h .

At 10:02 p . H Stein and Else Weustenfeld leave the


apartment,

' v*. * '


65*1319

Recordings were made of the conversations set out


above, which we re in German, between LXXLT STEIN and Informant'
eea IJ[LTj: STEIN and ELSE 1E0STENFSLD. Special Agent
inalated all conversiations with the exceptions of vie
ones on August 3 and August 23, which were between
Ducase #1. These were translated by Special Agent

v
65-1819
Tffeustenfeld

June 27, 1941* On June 27, 1941, a warrant was issued for the
arrest of ELSE TSEUSTENFELD, by United State*
Commissioner MARTIN C. EPSTEIN, Easttra District
of New York, Brooklyn, NI This warrant was
issued as the result of a co&plsdnt sworn to by
As sis t,ant Director E. J* Connelley, charging him
and named defendants with conspiracy to violate
Sections 32 fcnd 34, of Title 50, United States
Code*

Special A g e n t s ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ m ^
ed ELSE TrEUSTEN?ll^^!n<Hie^rorkCentral Railroad
Depot, Kingston, ,!. anortly after 3t45 P.M. after
she left a passenger train she had ridden froa
New York City. She was net

At about 4s50 P.M. Special


automobile, and
advised that
New York City* ELSE WJErjSTlPELD was trans-
ported in said automobile by the three Agents to -
the New York Bureau office, at U S Court House,
Foley Square, New York City, arriving at about 7:45

She was interviewed and made the f ollcrring signed


stacementj
warn

Tort, lm lork,

I, USB EUSTEKniS> do h f b r *ako la* foUo*la YolraUry


ttatawnt to Special ASt. V flaftjttt g***** of Jmroati-
gtion, 9aitd StaUa BtparWni of Jofclc. lo prols OP threats
hxnt bean aid* t * % an X know that aaything x cay may b nswd

* '

X s bora a t %B*ma-mtiart Gwraaay, oa April 1 6 ,


parent, both of feem are sew dce*d, ware SORLItl XAftflft
BLESS*!**. % arrive* in t*e Oaited State* t tm York City on
6, 1927, and filed . declaration to becoa* s, dtUa of ths
SUte* e jtia* 25, 1929, In *it Seetfatni Mstrlct of fm Tork. OB
27, 1937* X tutwit * natttralissd iUza f tas Qalit4
On Oetcb-r 7, 1927, 1 a*rri4 AIJB8T WlfFrnnH* *% IW
fork City, a&d oa A M U , M * , I dl-*l by W* t Detroit,

I nwrtawi fjsr -f ttgt1*>t l a 8rouviJl, i w ' ,


Tork, and to '^^^^^ ^w^^^B^^WPP^pT mp^m^ ^p^m r ^ r ^ * < * ^ P B . F*^p^v | jpFmm^HP.w^v

for >'*..
Bwrth
as # s f t f tfOfW INMI RwKli^jFf %4<>ra#y|i| 1? ,
, -YJ

hit by U> a . . of th.


r1ning yr of or r
absent fre ftr fact City, v d*Uy owUet. for T*T*1
yar j r t w to X936 JOITSt j t
d L MDty 4M I 6 p t f h S t d S U t w and
Hdco. l a 1936 h* prowrd poaliiox i a th Cwptft13#i' Qffioe -
of ti*> itor Sotol, 1 Tork City. TUa b ou s#odjiUd M a
<lwnn for tli Ooirowr Crodlt Oa^toy, wl X*Vr *a f t for '
tan Robert E. SsiB Coa^say/ tooth of I f f lork City. &pproiatly
1933 or 1 9 ^ , follo-lBg * trip -.Mett KITttt bad aaj| to Oaay for
ttw parpo** of TitlUng; hi relattre*, SHTCS tan*b*l b i
f hi* omn tX 32 ro*4^i Jwr Tort: CUy/ Tfai* bctslMM oo
of t a * f wring <ay to OttMBqr t o tin | P M I^O pl*ntt4 tft
; / r
to i ^ y i j ^ ' ^v v'
U **t of m*> t vt* iatrod.eed t %* tw
, 100 Park Row, * * Totk City, by SltTSR, aaft a% tot* tl
opeawt dwettAg aceoftst uadr *fc* at** USES HLE33UII. Tfe
of tit* H w a H i m ** tnU ttfll * ** dait la tlw
to enable BltTBH U fnada obtaio^l fro. Mi e l i * .
by U
hi. la

by
to perao hy
on ly S^t
Kczieo.
With rgard U tWL dap-xture, I wiah to mr tOist th
Ifcr i t n t that %h J^NHMBI. war k& ioaniBKit alu>rtiy ,
elUaw^iip, iamn* tfeat he vifIA %t pla4 ia * coneBtratia
In pia U> Mcxioo, iaTTEE thooht that be aigkt be itbl* to obii * .
p^altion ttoooJ i3ta nun iabaMT in do a t y . 8owvcr Its laWr
drld tet M MWHsr >& a*1* tieca **! to a a i f a work for 1dm. ,
ftirtug th tla* that Ultra wa JA Kwdco b stt^sd with It. .
d colia, f >; $ 3ift
MWSSje>e^|SySjRB^ 'W ^^ ^SwJP^f T^B ^^pPSt^p: SflP4BWP^P*4Hi9Bjpr Jp *^Trw "* '^BieAJf ^^^Pl^

Jo Jiry of 1940 Z visited JOTTER in Keilco for ' ,;


*
RITTSt towi U thctoltJ St**. ia 0
of 19^0. I laist* Ii*axtta4 fro* Idn ttMtt Iva had limn it
A tbat p
ha had tntlirnx! f to I fcislc Cliy,
conttw^d lit- |reTilT--*tlotd ' 0 a i i J
h l f t i tjfit CLtr r fr Sn iWutw , ftm **t*
dspart for ruffl3r i /^a. ' Ills iftfst* fir rtrriBg to
mm tt ft that %mc f to* Ua*U<>a I E fcl ta ft"

hd dropped off sMrbly. . . .


I y prior to fcjg dgpartore, RITTia handed m< |$QQ in
t l M i l s , *tJ.ch WAS I t n f D M i t of naaerotm M11 loaaa hich I had
a^d* to M. HWHTTOT, 2 rrtaraofl tba on*ry to bin -ifeh. direcUowi . '
th*t fw trmMf-r It to y aoctwat iri tb COOMTCS aad PrlT*k ia ^
in doig thl I k*d In ala* a e k i ^ a t i U to OwMay SOM .

^ ^ 1 > 1; *-,; "


dlr4 to have ood iia 'in ^1 "'-'

-. f
1
~' '"l?h\
l o t t a r ** v&as 1* toliV a s ***** the fact that h liad Wsa jjaeatloaa*
bj Agants f the Faderal Soraa* of Icrtatigation et Sen Francisco,
, rgar*tt U s in tha
Unitad State*. H also told e that ha bad mwrtioaad ay naaa as on*
of fcU friends. UlttES aant tft*r l a t t e r * to tat
Jsp&a aad fro Ks&t&ttria. Recently X Isaant fraaj
a friend of RITTEt'a ir. lew fork City had recdT4 m mad Sfm EITTEE
M i gratrUngs aad stating that he tot finally arriTtd la
Sermaagr.
20th or 21st
Ott laae 34, 19il, tfais betn RlTTEr,' , 2 Mat Ma
* cblfraa of cosgritolatipiui *ddresd to tii of Ids mother
a t Ytrtooy ti<rr i i l e r , Borberg So. 20, Qmramf*
X net SIIOUBS RITTEE, the brother of BUS tfffES, &* I
as rKI^C^ at lew *OJ-K City i n approximately If 35. SIIOLfeUS was
then residing with Ids *fe and children in Me* lork, but hia basinesa
and addraae mate uatwwa .to . In approaciaataly 1938 8IKQUU& returnad
to Oaraaoy in ordar to raaotar tb Oetaan Ary ia which b aaa forrly
a Uaataaaat daring the trM War. For wm* Urns tbraaftr
XIKOIJISS liTd a i t b hii fawitj l a Haabi^rg, Gaimaay, but 1 aa o n m n
a* kis prcaact *Sagaategg.%g* -Se*sf; X fes hma lafamad or BalB
FITTER teat 1M l a mem a Major la th Qanaa aray. ,

^ foc Oaar. MIIOUDS


KERtt rtwpi to the nltd Siat4a f w the porpos* of adiwitinf w
insaranw n a t t e r , l e aa l a Ipr Hack City for * f Meks prior to
M s return to Cencany and <tarig Ibis tl* h sd IASS Ktttta had
dinner t ay ben*. also bad diniwr tofrthar upon th
of ffXIOUra at th Bla Bibboa Itiwtaia-art. &UK tk ntoxt* pt
SIXOUUS to
personal ooatact and I do m% Xmm it what parUwOar dlrialca
of tt Qenwua Army IM>
Shortly aftr the Tialt of BASS mXtm to Mudoo
IrTio8ly BftBtiosaa, as lderly aau eoae to tfee offie f fapjc& aai
Fariy sal aked w for tfee ad*ra of BAJ1S EITTSR. I rfd to f
this addre.8 to th aa becana. f the fact %b&% HAS5 EITTffi, prior
to a i s departarB, had iMtmcted e not t iafora anyooa of k g v
iaaattch aj* lid <iid wit dcsir to b botiird ti(y cor- -
p Tb* maa g^Ys his aaaM a ^fiJ0ESIE, bat at H t i n t X -.
eovlel not proaoa&o i t . -I iaatraeted him to *&&*** any l a t t ^ 1 a*'
klg^it visa to ite to ms KlTiia'a fowair atfirets at 32 BroadRay.*'.
l^pok lrl&g B0QWESS1 gv a calling cartj^ieh bora tfeo isami' . .-
"Air Ternal.ff * 8i mm appoarad l a a earaar of th card. Shortly
after r.ceifing this carti I wad a c ^ r t i c l a of OM kind amtalrring '
tfea nsa* of Baqawia* Univaraity, and raeallod taat tbia saw aa

' Vi
witli that appearing pi th calling e d , tsrt wtem
agsia referred to the HMMI f DCQOKKE I recalled i t u t l w M M
tt* elderly ma who ** *Oled upon atu
' " 2 via* U state that Xfcadsever etOTGITESKbefore or *ttr
the abort oeetlag aod aloo that I wrrr peid hi* any aoney.
I hem pi mo by of &eae I m
laformd hj ued b y DUQUESBE.

With ragard to *ny person UW, 1 dirA to state that


the osly |*r*ea \sgr t M M M f iM
by BASS R i m a . ARirnjUly oa y*r bfor th prrt ETTTEE
MBUoaed * *a naa4 U * 0 *fid aid t i b i i i i i i X
ing t o Oarmany. I b*llT t W t HITTjm 1 aald thfct h plaaia t o
see TJUJO to. the br>t. Ti M M of any pron aae4 'fflRRT EORDBl
i s tinkaowi to s, sM I m UAe^aiatcd Kith aay *g>Io7* %f -fchia
or othr nmm % tib V d C ;

I alao wish t o state tint to the best of y of to


perewss 14

PAUL I wlb to ay that such * person


bone kacvn Ito *
la pjaNwi*1--ly OftiolMr of ism 1 rl.Td a %ls]ftaw call
that idici4 i i uux snn
had riia* frt f r i o f ! i a ffrti, Allr Rivw,
Ut f BARS RITTa, a l l of fe UT 1 io *ii*4^ of
StKTl doriaf tJ ers f IMT t4tlepka oaU, sk4 i f
, sad I sst**ed Ut sh oaU at tin offlco of p
ad ?arlr. Sfcsrtly aXUnwds . BTKM oolls4 at tiO offies aad
thm I stsirttiMitsl tilrtwfcsd i-sr to -as* Mlwi Mill' 'tti 'tha^'iltt
ts%t4 to'tar* im msstst'lMBr -iartnnnaotiiihnTOliiiiigr w c i u i i i Had
mw^i^^pp^W^pFmB TP^HF v f w ^ ^JF ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ F ^ ^ F^w^mpmBF^m^mB' ^^VF^WRW ^^F^F ^^F^^F^^^^^F^'^P' ^F^ ^ F ^ P F ^ ^ ' F^F^^" ^ ^ p ^ ' W P H viFwmFmpp^^^iiv ^VRPPPBPFmppjpPi^^ ^RF^PVFPP' mupmjMFmpt

in Tima, Jowtria. At tha tiaw 1 wa i n cbario of tho


PepiiiVswit t fopken aad Fmrloy, mi %ook Ut Sttia'a
of a poww <* sttoniFfr t had to do *iUv i t * fusda wrtionod.
I i l occasion jfgaa m+M** ** *gr t*UflK^ ta* | tl
roisr* to fwrthr tffort* to oVtsia t)u> fmnfts i> Astoi*.
BMiuno uf tliaso pttntaoti' with Mii' nilrHf itiB asfls tli
fwrt tbat t ^ WM f ^ a l i i ^ M | l i i ^ O w ^ J - o | # | ^ . j * i w ; ^ f M
X tfeia* l^im'lRHiFi'-l^-^rt^* .Mr*: tmj4*m* UVte mm
U jador 1*1*3* a I do ot reeall" (brth- o not I' r Tlsitod
her vhll sbo * M rtiyiaf *V the hotl. I alo *iJi to. stU that
*?X.**, '
,..-.*
at ao tine 4X4 Miss .Still erer pay * |20O or ay other a\m of
i connection witlt bustasss or
Several weeks after omr original meeting Kiss STEIK tl*f
B9 that she bad obtained an apartment a t 127 East 54th Street, and
I accepted her invitation to attend a housewaradUtg i a hr |rtBt.
i f ter t h i s X a** Vis* Stela on only rare occatiom. *t ttfc*r her
apartaest or sine, a n t i l the departure of B&SS RITTIE for Oeraaiqr
oa January 3 , 1941. After this date I commenced to ea Misf Stein
approxtaetely erer; two week*. Sfee wrrer %1A mm abowt bsfat sngaged
Is spioac ctlritis for the Oensaa goTernaent, aM ia particular
h# s*a BO sentioa of sen&ag reports to flriiy with rgrt! to
hr a c t i v i t i e s . The only iseution Kiss Stein Mate of ony f
Genaany w her stataBOttt 'to mi os 'several cea*ioss tbat perooaa
hos sh did not sami were attptiiig to sma^M'wmmj feolooging to
her into til* Onited States. I recall that SWX *itload a Ban by
the rum* of BASE?, but I gathered from her ramarks t&tt this prsoa
was one of saajr boyfriends *Mcfe I knew Stein to %** 2 igfat tat
here that l i s a Steis nerer referred to tiMi i M t na*a of ber
eatieciiig tbea by their first

She aiao told se aboet a mas. -a&ose aaam I believe to be


BA1RT, with *fao eh* atteodod a diaer at am aror/ in l e v fork City*
She Berer aaa&iozud aay pereon y the MOW of JTS or ' -
BCQDESSf, ad X reeeived BO aoswy fro* her t It* transferred by m
to any irsdividual by theee
HANS BTTtFR nerer twst STEI. becsaee he preferred sot t * '
ake her eoqoeifitaaee. Howrrer, oa on* oeoaadoa, out of eurlosity,
h coaceftled himaolf daring 1pm eoure of a v i a i t by STXIH to y
apartaent in order that he eight taJce look a t her. % believe
that s r a u , upon her f l r t telephowt e a l l to ae stated that he also
htd greetijaga for HASS RITTSE. At w ttm ere the a^ee ULIJAM
5?B0LD or Mm mmm erer eentioaei to e by STEII, and I do not
know either through Iwr or froei cay other source that azry iaoXTidmal
by either of tbeae O H M waa active i a Smmm eapiona aetivltlea*
As to any tcquaintance by the Bane of -"KfnST.ICJT, I wiea to
state tMt SflXI bsd ac aeqpeltttenee by t a i s mm in Qexmaay. &m
displayed to Be thres or four letters free ihi mm, Mch I beliere
were addressed "Dear Lilly**, and ended with 'Greetings and fcitees,
Heinrich." Tbosa letters were written aa "friend to friend" and
ware very.' cool l a efear*ter. ' U other worAm, they &U aot shov a
eloee relationahip. I was aot very cerioaa aboat theee Uriteri, sad.
paid l i t t l e attention to theE. lowwter, X noted that the letters were
asually QBly about at page l o length, and oft** eomtaced with tretark
such as "I h*vB't heard fro* jou for a long tie STKIM showed
the l M t of thcae letters to me seTeral months ago.
X hare rt**re4 very U t t l i mall fro Germany, ** a l l of
i t was of * social natare, ^.ther from ay sister or f r i t h s . It**'
ef those letters had to do with espionage act.lrlU.9a. Eemrer ^ I
know that .Kiss Stain had maay contacts i a (JermaBy from who* she r e -
, eeived I t t r 8 , bat I do not know what was caataiifctd i n these cc- ^
aanic*tions, o^^h|a^^|^soiB of thaifepa wer fro* a soldier i s the
Qwrmtui kruy H H H B S H I I B I H V * 1 - ^ * SSgDI *** rwy Crieadly.
Serer&l oaths ago StUJf rcired & l s t t e r f r o d H H H p t i ^ he
tht be had been wounded. Recent^ Miss 3TEII hSSiBenTioaed on a
fv oecasioBS ihst' she hat received so farther letters either froa
HEIKUCH
I imow of BO eoatact of STEII's l a ^ ^ r o i t by the aaja* of
she lias never exhibited to e say lattars froa aa indlrldaal
um*t eoataiaittg lafnaatiea with regard t o the prodaetloa
of airfOaavs i a the united S i s t e . . X a sre af "the fact that there
are roar divisions or tae aer**& lateliicaiiea ^rstem, but as to what
these are I cannot say. the fact that thars ar for smoa d i r i s i o a s
i s gsnaral kaowlodte, and t h i s *zj have beta aenUo&ad by HWIS HITTER
but I aa s4 certain that- no remark of t h i s kLad was ercr aads by -
Miss STEII. '. - , - . .* ^ . . . . ;.- '>-'- "- .-.;. .

of t i s
eaployed v i t a se fey Topkan sad fariley, attwajptort to aare me
to Oijrasaywit for a - visit*' : in order to inflnenoe as in this

in order to furthor persuade ma# s ^ t dipoaits of fji> oa h f oar


reservation*.. later sa transferred thets rascrrstions to the S3
KAOALUKES, wblob was o r i g l a t l l y echedaled t o s a i l for Spain oe. the
14th. of lay, ,.Jbe^ash|^|yKMtt|yygn^7, 1941 - However, whoa X'
found o&t fSrosiI^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^IH^that X wonTrt \m ^tisttt^ t o

25 of tM* year, atersd the employ of


the Oermea l a Washington, D. C.
m the time when I was considering goinf to Geraeny with
t talfed with LILLY STFM h<mt y trip. At thl time sha
_ I would be willing to carry * letter to a frisni i s
Qeraacy. See aade so mention of the friend's mow, ad we did sot
discaw the letter In any winner. I eight cay tfcat I
objaction to carrying a lettc r to Germany so ls$v at i t *td not costaia
any eepioaage *tter. _ *'
Beltker of s agreed that aay l e t t e r *$& I woxild carry for
Kiss Stein wold be addressed to "De*xet Uncle 8einrieh to be signed
'Your niece." Mieber did we decide tht upon jy rriTl in GmaB
t would contact Miss Stein's aoo^aintanee "HKlWlCH.* ' = :: %. .
I vista to state positively that I made ao ereeent with
STftlS to lutrise her of ay seeUng with HSUfRICH r with ny perwon
naaed HFIWRICH SORAU by referring to the* as Aoot Helena.*
He nay h*e tslked bcmt a code for eilJfig ZrtUrg to or
froa Oeraarry iuMdi as X had paU.oa*d sah % oiw to *sy frttad*
of aine. Thit code tmi bese isnrestod by ylf, 9& Vm parpoM
of i t was to avoid censorebip by Oewiaa a n t l i w l t i i s . : The cod
operated as f o l l w i : A ecnmicatlon wold 1 f i a , '
reaark as "I QJIT rMMdtwd your letter of w 29tk." Tk
k the firt d i giii t of tki d*te
the letter woald then takft
and this would Indicate the word i s the oosmiBieitUojtt.
nf the
Mli tte aender dtairad to i a p - r t . Wrtrwr, I recall .
r*itively that 1 atw*r din cawed with dtSIf any letter la
wMdi t&is code shwOd be e4. 1 kaow of
Bnited States
or

With regard
sail 'ae a close fritori
Oemany or in the Uoite* States. BITT1B
S t e e l Belsets, which waa tonpoaed
TST^wehr. EITTEH obtained a pociUcm at th Astor Botel
and the two workd thore togetherfoTBeTeral oonthg prior
resigoaUon. Aa ^tmm&k o f frleodaixip id.th
alto as# %o toow-MT
/ the Selective Serriee Act, m& b* ia now serrtag in th# 0mted States
Army. I believe lie tea a slater in Chicago tad q&other la Oraacry.
I have read the abore stateaent coasietiag of t h i s and six
typewritten pagm, each of which I have ijMd freely maS. volnfitarily.

of
t
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As a result of further questioning, she made the


following additional signed stateaentt
BDDOklyn, New Y c W , July 8, 1941.

I. Else Weifitenfeld, mak<? the following voluntary statement ^


to , Soeclal afcant, Federal Bureau of Investlfeation, ,;
United States Deoartment of Justice. No promises or ^hreats have i!{!.
been made to me and I know that anything I say may be ufsed afealnst ;
me. ^
This statement is in addition to a statement dated, |
June 30, 1941, which I made to aSent The reason I am %
maklnfe this additional statement is to correct certain errors w|
and mlastatements which I made In my statement of June 30, 1941. ,||
My first contact with activities of a subversive nature '$i
occurred at some time in 1938 when NIcolaus Ritter the brother
of my boyfriend, Hans W. Ritter, came to the United States from
Germany. At this time Hans Ritter told me that Nicolaus was a
member of the German Gestapo. Nicolaus several times visited
Hana and I at 82 Riverside Drive, New York, .Y. where Hans and I :-%
then resided. On one of these occasions when Nicolaus, Hans and
I were together, Nicolaus subbested that I mifaht "be of assistance <|i;
to him in obtaining information for the German ^eetapo. I Immediate- r'
ly told Nicolaus that I did not wish to take oart In any such .,
thinS and we did not discuss the matter any further. After beinS ?y
in New York for 3 or 4 weeks Nicolaus returned to Germany. Several #
times while Nicolans waat in the United States at the time above <
mentioned I overheard him talklnS with Hans. Frequently Nicolaua
referred to a man by the name of Dtiquesne who was also known as a
"Jim". It was obvious to me from their conversation that Nicolaus
was contacting "Jin" with reSard to obtaining Information for the
^astapo. _ .^i
Several months after NlcolauBreturned to ^ e*many, Hans
also went to that country. I do not know where Hans obtained the >
money for the Eastbound trip nor whftt his purpose in Soinfe' to ,
Germany was. However, on his return he told me that the Gestapo had
paid for his westbound trip , Inasmuch as the Gestapo paid his trip
to the United States I assume that he mi6ht have aKreed to assist
the ^estapo, but he did not admit this nor do I know of any ac- I
tivities that he was enSafied in. y
Shortly after the outbreak of the war In September 1939, #<<
Hans received a cablegram from Holland slfaned w i t h a three word
name, o n e of w h i c h wp,s N l c o . T h i s cablegram advleed H a n s that ;
the sender k a d arrividjo' i n N e w Y o r k t w o d a y s p r e v i o u s l y . H a n s told %\
me that the cablegram was from the Gestapo and that the pefaon who 0.
had arrived in New York was his brother Nico. He further said that |
he wished not to have anything to dq with Nicolaue and made immediate^
plans to leave for Mexico In order to avoid his brother Nico.aitatxtsx
On September 15, 1939, Hans left by train for Mexico. v
Several weeks after Hans left I received a telephone call
from a woman whofeJavehef name as Lilly Stein and advised; me- that ..... %;<
she had personal 6reetin&sto Kive to me from friends in Verden on
the river Aller, Germany. Stein * t * wanted me to meet her at a ; -|
midtown hotel where she was staying. I did not know why she wished
to see me but since I suspected that she mifeht hatoe had a meesaSe ? ]
from Nico for his brother Han s /, i
A Jk
I kept the appoii^ent with Stein at her Hotll a few days later.
Upon ay arrival a f the Hotel I was handed a letter *tc by Oilly
Stein which was addressed on the out&Ide tc Hans Rltter or Else
Weustenfeld, and In which we were asked to help Lilly tc bet
established or with anythiisfe that she mlfcht have nmed of In
New York. The letter also stated that Lilly Stein wae of
partially Jewish blood but that she was a nice perEcn. Lilly
also handed me a roll of bills which I think was in the amount
of $300.00 and a small microphotofcraph. The money and nhoto&rp.ph
she wished me to fcive to Duquesne . She said that I mibht retpir.
enoush of the money so that I could purchase a mptnifyint. blaefi.
I did neither wiBh to acceot the money, nor the photograph because
&. I suspected that the miccophotobraph mlfeht contain a secret
message from the ^estapo. Lilly offered me her own mafcnifyinfe
blase for the purpose of reading the photobrat)h but I refused
it because I did not wish to know what the photobraph contained.
After considerable hesitation I finally accepted the money and
photograph. Upon accet>tir.b the phottSraph I could read without
the aid of a maSnifylnfei blass the words; " Dear Jim11, but nothinb
else. I tried to find out from Stein where she had obtained' the
money and photbraph but she bebfced me not to continue my questloniifc.
Several days later an elderly man came to my office
at 17 Battery Place, New York, N.Y., and Identified himself as
Duquesne. He feave me his callinfe card on which hie name appeared
and I also noted that the name " Air Terminal Company" was aleo
on the card. He tol/d me that he understood that I or Hans
Rltter had received some money for him and a message. I then
bave him the money and the photoferauh. He asked me to communicate
with him If I should receive any further newa but I expressly
asked him not to bother me any-more In any way. He was also
anxious to learn where Hans Ritter wae at that time. Hans Ritter
had asked me not to forward his address to anyone and I X K there-
for asked Duquesne to communicate with Hans Ritter at hie old
address - 32 Broadway, New York, N.Y.
I met D. In frtont of my
Some time laterteiptKKXKXBRiiK&xisitxatKXKfcxmyapartment house
82 Riverside Drive, New York/andnasked me If I had received
anymore money for him. I told DBR him that I had. no money for
him and a^aln asked him not to Set in touch with me enymorc.
These are the only two occasions on which I have met Duauerne.

I received an additional amount of $300.00 in small bills


from some source that I cannot recall. I have a vaEue recollection
that it came from Lilly Stein and that she told me it had been
given to her by a man named Harry for Duquesne. It Is not clear
to me when I received that money but I am certain that I deposfted
it with the Seamen's Bank for Savin&e where I kept a small bank
account. I believe that this deposit was the one made S R X & K X X
to my account on October 5, 1939. Althoubh I accepted the
money I had us absolutely no intentions of transferring it to
DuqueBne because once and for all I did not want to have anythinb"
to do with such matters. When I went to Mexico In January 190
for the purpose of visitinb' Hans Ritter I took the mortey with me
and turned it over to Hans Rltter. . .....
After apendinfe three weeks in Mexico In January 1940 I returned
to the United States and Ritter came back in July 1940.
I do not know what Ritter 1 s activities were in Mexico
other than the fact that he told me that he did some translating
work for the ^erman Library of Information in Mexico City.
I took quite a liking to Lilly Stein after our original
meetinb and we occasionally visited each other. She eventually
told me about the fact thatihe had been sent to the United States
for the ourpose of obtaining information for the ^eetapo and
she frequently connolained to me about her not receiving all of
the monies that had been promised her. However, I believe
that in December 1940 she njentioned receiving $1,000. in payments
of $200.00 and $800.00. This money was paid to her by a bank;
I believe it to be the Chase National Bank. Prior to receiving
the first sum a messenger cjame to h<=r apartment and advised her
of the fact that the money was at the bank. A B I recall it^,
Lilly said that the $800,001 had been paid to her by check.

Stein told me that her contact man with Germany was


one Harry Sawyer who transmitted her informations for her. She
also told me that Harry had been instructed ky to discontinue
his relations with her.
When I planned to return to Germany in April 1941, I
talked with Lilly Stein aboiit seeing Heinrich Borau at Cologne
Germany, about the fact that Stein had not been receiving the
payments they abreed upon and of her desire to be transferred to
South America or Jaoan. I agreed to take a letter to Heinrich
Sorau but later on decided not to do so because of the fact
that it was against the International Postal laws to take letters
to a foreign country which had hot been mailed through the U.S.
Post Offices. I also said 'that I would probably meet Nico
Ritter In Hamburg, and talk to him about her financial status.

I did not return to ^erjnany because I found out that I


was not able to obtain an'American passport.

I know Rudoloh EbMr)g b M o i m * nt the fact that he is


the husband I met him
*r several occasions at his aparxmenx 219 East 83rd Street,
New York City, when I was there for the purpose of having my hair
done. On one of these occasions I agreed to take a letter to
his brother in Berlin, Germany, &vt%^a&p-4e^i4e& against 1-t
ISKKKKXSxix but did not do this because I cancelled my triD.
I never saw this letter nor do I know what it contained.
Whether or not Ebeling was engaged Ln subversive activities I
do not know and I have no reasons tc suaxsect it.
I have never sought to obtain Information for Germany
regarding national defenses of the United 3tate6 and I have
never transmitted such Information to Germany.
However,Stein once fcave me a letter to Helnrich Soreu
which was written as friend to friend and on the face at>r>eared
tobe Innocent. But Stein explained that diskuised in the
letter *& information that U.S. Dlarfs were transported from
some base in the United States to England. I aferepd to see
that this letter was transmitted to Germany and thereafter feJave
it to a pa8senSer, whose name I do not know, M M who X X X X K X had
come in to my office to obtain my signature as a notary public
to an application for a ^erman passDort. I do not know whether
or not this person ever departed for Germany.
I have read the above statement consisting o* this and
three other pakes, each of which I have signed freely and
voluntarily. ' x
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THE following i s a d e s c r i p t i o n of ELSE WEUSTENFEIDj

Name: ELSE ^USTENFELD, with a l i a s e s :


Else Blessman, Mrs. Hans R i t t e r ,
Else Westenfeld, Else Blessmanp,
Elsie Blessmann,
Age 41 years:
Height 5' 53m-llw
Weight 155 pounds
Build Large
Eyes Blue
Hair Brown
Complexion Fair
Nationality German
Naturalized American Citizen.
Race White
Occupation Secretary and Notary Public
Marital Status Divorced
Criminal Record Not known
Relatives Father - Gottlieb Blessmann^
deceased. Former address
(Staedische Krankenanstalt)
Esmarchstr 3, Essen-Ruhr,
Germany.
Mother - Martha Blessaan,
nee Schwartz.
Address - not definitely known
whether presently living,
but if so, her address, possibly
might be that set out as above

n
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Photographs obtained from


application for re-entry, permit
June 1929 and photograph taken
by a Bureau Agent while 'walking
along the street on 6/20/40. .

JHJtf
9 sP;
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WITNESS CLASSIFICAHOH
AXEL

1. Immigration and Naturalization


Clerk, U.S. Dist. Court,

2. Espionage Activities - Known or Possible


[Y.M.C.A. 5/5/4O
ias National Bank, N.I.Cej
Directory Federal CoBaBunications Coaoission, N.I.N.Y.
6/28/U
6/28/41
ederal Coom* Conm, N,I.N.Y.
S t . Mary's Park Realty, Bronx, N.T.
6/28/U

Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence


3A5/41 3/29/41
4/4/41 ; *
10/22/40 3/15A1
5/T7/41 6/28/a
10/22/40
4/4/a 4/22/a 5/3/a ?A/a
5/21/a
11/4/40 11/4/40
10/2^40
4/4/41 5/3/a
Microphone Surveillance (Admissibility Quettionable

5. Baployaent Record

6. History and Prior Activities



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KXEL ViKEELEft-HIU.
vdth a l i a s e s '
Alex, A. iioel&nd

p.eciderice Address: 563 Cauldv/ell Avenue


Apartment F-6
Eronx . -
I Tow York, i;ew York

Business Address: 17B Kcverly Place \


c/o Thirst Quenchers
Kev. York, Hew Yorjc

. From the Immigration -nd n a t u r a l i z a t i o n records, .


i t was ascertained t h a t AXEL,YffiESL3l-HILL ns born April 12, 1900, at
Libau. -Russia."- I t should'"be"pointed, put t h a t when T/ISSLiS-HIIIi scle. ap-
p l i c a t i o n for a bond, U.S."Guarantee Cuiup&ny, 50 Johns Stroftt. $ an York
City, Y<ew York, he gars his dcte of cirtxi a& Ddossxbcr d, 1900, rid t h e
place os Libau, Latvia. T/fliEELSS-HILL o r i g i n a l l y i m i g r a t e d t o t>ie United
S t a t e s , entering the port of Iff* York July 2,, 1923,- havxag sailed on the
S;S. l!uencher froiti Gersiany. Ho filed h i s p e t i t i o n ' f o r naturaMation~on
December 1 1 , 1928, a t Eow York," Hew York, fend m s naturalized i n the
IMted States D i s t r i c t - C o u r t for-the southern d i s t r i c t of Kern York pn
' Koyenber 18, 1929, receiving' c e r t i f i o a t e " " *-~~ **" * '

; .', Since t h e date AXEL TCIEELSR-HILL' entered ,the United-


States he b&s been employed as a m i l l hand vd.th the Third Avenue Railroad,
Hew York City, and m s later- employed as an operator "by the swne f i r a frojsi
October 19, 1929 to June, 1938, at which tiine ha reoeived a leave of ab--
senoe to v i s i t Gerinany which vrsis to be Tor s. period of approximately three
inbnths. - ,_,. , \ . . /
i n h i s application for a passport,
gave h i s father* s namo as JAIJES "SpTJEBLER-fllLL and stuped t h a t h e r e s i d
i n Hamburg. Gerjmany^andreauestedthat_his

lSToiTTnTsTlrip .to .oersany.' '- -


- ;,: . ' - "" "SfESKLJE3l*HIIIj: and h5's ^family departed froni-'"idie" . '
.United States on the S.S Deutsdhland, remaining in,Germany :until April ,\
1940. at -which time he returned t o the UMied States a'loito,. leaving'his , -'
/1^^B>

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perjured hiaself siid. s e r v e ^ ^ j ^ ^ y ^ ^ g ^ waS


From the marriage license H l J I J U H H H I H V ^ aso@rts.inod that
iOGSL <1!EELER-'HILL*s mother's name i s m-CHiBLOTTE KLIKOLE YfllEELER-HILL.
'' At the present ^tine AiL Tf-iEXEX-lilLL i s ciaplo/ed
as a tin ok driver and porter for THIRST -QUENCHERS,. I n c . , l?B Waver ly ,
piece, Ifer York City, receiring i* salary "of |18 per'-weekVVHe .1BO r s -
sides Tdth FSLIJL JAE15KB v*ho i s a Subject in the ijistsjat case.
From the: files-of the Federal Cosaurdcation.Com-

mission, i t was ascertained tha't''TfilESLER-EIIL i s not licensed to operate


an ariature radio.
'. AXEL HiHSBLER-SILL eaters this investigation through
the fact that on or about "July 29, one, JOSSF KLEIN, was reported to "be
purchasing unusual- radio equipment. Upon, suiosequent investigation, i t
trks-ascertained that KJJBUi vms "bu5 lding a. portotle trRUsnUsting end r e -
eei-virvg set Wd that this. eQuijfffliont, aflwi- i t TSIB ccapleted, was to be de-
livered to A2SL \fKE3L:H-IIILL and FKLiA. JAIC^S that they night- nonmun-''
.icate illega-lly -irith GerirL&ny. - .
May 5, 1940 AXELTOIEELER-HIILenrolled, i a . t h e Jladio Gode" School,
YJEA, 5 TSest 63rd Street,, EeV York City, iiiere 1
received 30 lessons cjid studied the Interns.tio:
a sr>eed of asprpxiaatelv 10 vror&s per minute
fcpurse in radio code, st-.ted that Wi
beresteti in the International Horse Code.- {This ^Is^espeoially i
due to the fact that w'iLLIA.11 SSBOJJD receives subst'antio.liy the' sane -'iri*- , '
structibns; thfe.t-is, that he learned the International-Morse Code so that
he would be &ble to.illegally transmit messages to Germany.)
(S. 4069, P.-41)'
October 22, 1940 AXEL'.aiD^LLR-illLu visited J03UF..lyLBIlI accompanied
.byPBLIS JAHHKE.reL.atiya>to the radio set b<i ng
built for them and upon_ their departure they -srer'e followed and identified
f
by Bureau Agents." "" : :' ' " . , ' ' , "'' '

(S. 5978,' P. 26)

' ' ^ ~ *
s^^BJ

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November 4 , 1940 AXEL \F3iiKuH-EILL-accoiapa.nied by FELIX JAE33EE ,


coine t o ICLKI!-;s cpe-rtaent, 227 Bust 126th S t r e e t ,
IJsrr York C i t y , and c a r r i e d nrray the portr.ble r:.dio ecjuipnent which was
built; for KLEIH. This equipment consisted of four black oases* WHSEISl
HILL TfAS i d e n t i f i e d end follov/ed'to 563 Cauldnell' j^renue, Eronx, ilev
City, by' Bureau Agents wr.d he was .not observed to leswe.

(S 4978, P* 46)

(This i s important dye .to the f r< ct t h a t 1/ILHAM


53B0ID v.&s i n s t r u c t e d to 'obtain rf-dio equipment so t h a t he could coffinun-
ici.te with Gernauiy* This- i a d i c - i es t h c t IHEELSR-TilLL possibly received
s i r d l a r i ; i s t r a c t i o n s vrhile lie v. s i n Germany.betv/een June 1938
1940.) .

February 2 5 , 1941 On t h i ; crtc i.JZ, 7BES3 and LEO YfAALEIJ vfe.I'ea into '
the office of -.ILLTA!! 3EC0LD, 152 \ . s s t 42nd S t r e e t ,
Hew yorJc City. FEHSB r.sked Sil'CID i f ^e knew a i^ai by the .cane of REUPER
i n Hev; York and he s t a t e d t h c t he It.t rned t h i s r.an1 s r.arne through YiALIS- _
CKEWSKY- and t h a t so;*e time e^oho ->ent t o see t h i s nan R2UPER and t h a t he
naked EEliPi^. about Ms business end r a d i o connections but t h a t REUPER did
not t a l k much. FJ3ISE s t a t e d t h a t he vt&s of the opinion t h a t REUP3R ap-
parently had-no radio connections. FI5I33 ctt^od t h t t : e l.i d "ifwrd of a
ECU by the name of EICHEEIA'.Ji). I'ui: ,:&xt Liiov.3 Gon ether sen rho are t sup-
posed t o h r.ve a portable radio -which T.'ould vork i n a notor cs-r 3oth
FBII3B and S323OU) tf>l;:edof the r.uj;aber of v&tts neceasarj' to t r r h s n i t . aes-..^
sages t o Gernany. '

The f u l l contort of t h i s neeting -vrith WILLIAM BSBCI,Df!


end PAUL FELiSB i s set out in the testimony of WILLIAM GEBOTJ). However, it*'."'5';
i s ' b e l i e v e d t h a t the man raj orred to by FJLI32 i s AX5L T^IS^LSP.-iIILL.

Ilarch 3 , 1941 PAUL TZI3S had a r.eoting ?.'itft -^ILLIAII 'S230ti> i n the ,
..'...- l a t t e r 1 , office a t 152 West 42nd S t r e e t , Hew York,. -
Rt -yfhich time FEHBE -ivas asked by ML' TA!! 3EBOED i f he had fovpd out
regarding n.err radio 'connections r.nd asked hiLta pa,rtiQularly aBotit HILL;'
i s whether the HILL-h had. ner.tior.ed TWS secretary of the^enaan-Ainerican-
Bund. PE1ISB r e p l i e d "IHISHLIir.-lIILL** -uid scid t h a t he has seen the la&n1 s
somevihera.\ He took out h i s v a l l e t txd ahorred SEBd^D one HILL
i bn-a pcfte. -of oo.rdbo;.rd. 'Hovever, SEBOID believed-^h 'tts.ra
_ ^ FEKSS continued by advising SEBOID thafc ^,CTr\?P fitftHRNTAtm.'
^Ktxo jaan1 s:ncns ;.r.d i t i s something l i k e
FSflSE t o l d SEBOLD t h a t he ^.;ould find out
"13ICH2KIAUD. . '

March 15, 194.1. wsts^obeprved "by Sggcia.1,


mm proceed" froi?. his place of*t
the Hew York docks ^ff ulton Street, Jjrooklynj'lTerr Yor > "afrlvi^ At
approximately 2:25 P.ir WHOBELSR-rflLL entered the piers " ,; point" --"ii
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vrallced slowly, along the same r.nd observed the vs.r5.6u5--ships and orrro,
lie obserx-ed t h e S.S Lafayette closely -wMch was-docked a t , pier "30 of the
ISBE&IIDSKIT Stemship. Lines. He again stopped-at' pier 34 where he. ps.id ..
" a r t i c u l c r a t t e n t i o n to the S. S. Lesta of the Cosmopolitan Steamship
Lines, vrroch. T.ras loading stores v,-hich were stacked on pier 33 and 35 .and
which T.'CS bound for Liverpool,

it surveillance of HILL ?ra.s discontinued a t 4:15 p . a .


wid KILL "V.TAS on the vstsrfront fron 2:15 p.m* and-was t i l l on the pier a t
'the discontinuance of the surveillance.

At 10:15 p.iJU VaiEETJiR-HILL vr&e observed by Special


0
Agent n a i l , a l e t t e r at poet office s t a t i o n "E", 438
addressed to
i t bore the
Hew York City.
This l e t t e r -wus^raarked
Subsequent investigation disclosed t h a t 1090 Treo-
nont Avenue i s a f i c t i t i o u s return address, and due t o the f a c t t h a t
' alEELSR-rllLL- v*as on the p i e r at t h i s date t h i s l e t t e r quite possibly con-
tained i:ifornrvtion r e l a t i v e t o ships which he had observed on that

I.!-, rch 1941 YSSHLER-IIILL was observed by Special Agent|


t o proceed t o t h e "Waterfront a t the foot o f p u l t o n
S t r e e t where he we Iked slovdy along the various piers and paid part: cul<w
a t t e n t i o n t o t h e various cargoes and ships a t hand. He seemed t o pay par-
t i c u l a r a t t e n t i o n t o auto p a r t s vihich -were being los.ded on the -shipo r.nd
consigned to Canada. VIHEBLZR-HILL entered upon the piers on t h i s date at
around 1:45 p.m. i\nd the surveillance T.TLS discontinued.at 4 p.'m* and he
was s t i l l on the' Diers a t xti is time. '.- .'',' -'. ',.:..'

April 14, 1941 On

t o n a i l 0. l e t t e r a t
Heyj York City. ... Agent jnail;>ctiute"a33.d i n i t
v.as $i l e .

of 1 . Sub sequent investigate


to t n e r e t u r n stddres^failed to disclose ftny; one by the _,--name ^ _ _
at tliis address, and'it is believed that HILL mff.iled this l e t t e r .

v&s obcerved by Surer u Agents


to leave 565 Caulc^ell Avenue, Broiix, T<r;? York City, ct which t i n e he v.-as
acconDsnied "by TiJLIX JAICTKE rrho also assisted hin i n carrying the tvro black
cases containing radio equipment. Tliay -vrere observed t o proceed t o 227
East 126th S t r e e t , Uev York, Her/'Yoric,-which i s the hoine of JOSEF XLSIil.
After they h.d been there 8. fevr hours, they l e ' t j the premises and returned.
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and xrsre followed back to 563 Cauldv.ell Avenue, the subjects, still-'having --
in their, possession the tv,ro black cases containing radio equipment. . .

April 22, 194i " AXEL "HHEELER-HILL again visited JOSEF KLEI1I ac-
companied by F2LIX JAHHKE and carrying the two black
cases oo at caning radio equipment, and t.ere followed to KLSHT's re-si dene e
and home said buck t o 563 CRuldvrell J,venue "by Bureau Agents.
Upon t h e i r a r r i v a l at 563 Cauldvjell Avenue, Special
r<as rionitoring t h e i r radio s t a t i o n heard e i t h e r
IIILIJ or JAIBTKE c a l l sti.tion REH for a neriod "betvreen 11 raid l i t 10 p.m.

April 25, 1941 On t h i s date AXEL TirlSBLiiti-HILL was in apartment F-6.'


j j ^ u e , Bronx, ]Ie\v York City, a t
v:hich t i n e Special 2i c ;er.tm^H^^^^^^B..iio T.ras nonitoring zxw c a l l s t h a t
might be sent i n ApartnBntP^os^cerTo?ITS d that HILL called s t a t i o n K00
for Kevorr.1 minutes sxnd r.pno.rently upon not naking a contact turned off
the t r a n s m i t t e r .
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65-1819 TJHEELER-HILL

April 23, sages were monitored by Special Agent


19a 'ifcich it is believed can be shown,
eminated from the radio set operated by AXEL ?HEELER~
HILL or FELIX JAHNKE between 2:08 P.M. and 2:20 P.M.
The frequency used was approximately 13750 kilocycles,
and the call letters used were KOO.
JAHNKE was observed by Bureau agents to enter
563 Cauldwell Avenue at about 1:30 P.M. and observed
to board a Lexington Avenue Express subway at the
Jackson Avenue stop, a few blocks distance at about
4:35 P.M.

May 4, At about 3:08 P,M until about 3:41 P.M., coded


1941. messages were again heard to be^^^^a^^ttd^rosi the
same station, by Special A g e n t H ^ ^ B M F The
call letters used were NE.K The frequency used was
approximately 15925 kilocycles.

May 10, At 3:15 P.M. until 3:22 P.M., and from 3:48 P.M.
1941. to 3:5^B^^ta*ansnii3sions were again heard by Special
Agent d ^ ^ ^ p e m i n a ting from said station* The call
letters used were K.C.I.

May 11, At about 3:14 P.M. until 3:21 P.M. the same
19a. station transmitted call letters E.N.O.
(NOTE: Upon arrest, AXEL THHEELER-HILL turned over
to Special Agents a book entitled "Half-Way to Horrow*
by David Hume, Albatross Edition which he explained
was used in coding his messages. The call letters
referred to above being the key for the day, which
indicated the page used.)
t VEC:MAM
9
65-1819 HHEELER-HILL

The coded message sent out on April 23, 1941, *hen


decoded iraw found to be in German and when translated read:-

INDIAN PRINCE LEFT NEW YORK ON THE 11th WITH 10 TWIN


MOTOR FIGHTING PLANES."
The message sent on May 4> 1941 'hen decoded -was
also found to be in German and -when translated read:-

HAVE BRAND NEW RECEIVER. PLEASE CALL SATURDAY AND SUNDAY


20 O'CLOCK MEZ. (WILL) ANSWER ON 14870. "

0
65-1619
inieeler-Hill

june 27, On June 27, 1941 a warrant was issued for


1941* the arrest of AXEL WHEEUSR-rOXL, by United States
Commissioner MARTIN EPSTEIN, Eastern District of
New Xorkj Brooklyn^ NY This warrant was issued as '
the result of a complaint sworn to by Assistant
Director E. J. CONNELLEY, charging him and named defend-
ants with consrjiracy to violate Sections 32 and 34* of
Title 50, United States Code* ;

June 28,
1941*
PM* June 28, 1941, placed TOEELER-HILL under arrest at
563 Caldwell Avenue, Apartment F-6, New Tork Ci1y, NI.
imich is. the-apartment occupied by F E L H JAHNEE. Other
Agents, as already set. cot, placed jahnko under arrest

arre
MHEELER-HILLJ upon questioning, stated the
radio transmitting set he had been using was located in a
closet in the north bedroom of the Apartment F-6 at 56jf).
Caldwell Avenue, Bronx,; N,I> This was located and in
addition a Hallicrafter Saper-Defraint Hi-Frequency
Radio ;Comnunication Receiver, together r i t h Speaker, was '
located in the bedroom.
WREHL,ER-HILL was then questioned as to the
whereabouts of the book he had been using to code his <
.
messages with* This, he advised," was in his own room at
Apartment 10, 670 S t . Ann's Avenue, Bronx, N>T* and WHEELER-,
HILL executed a waiver of search,of his room and he waa
taken to his room where a search was made for evide
the apartment par-npi ftHJ
_ _____^____^___ a search of
^eler-Hill^s room ana also signed a waiver of search* The
Agents found a book entitled "Half Way,to .Horror*, by ''/"
DAVID HT3ME> ^Ph;.WjaEEEEB^irCLI, stated was the bpok he xCsed'.
in encoding messages* He also turned over a compa*-which
he stated he used to place his aerial used fa* transmitting
in order,that the signals would be directed toward Hamburg,",
Germany* :,
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TOEELER-HItL "was then taken to the New York Bureau


office, United States Court House Building, Foley Square, Kew York
City, where he vras questioned and made the following signed statement;
Hew Tork, New York
June 29, 1941

ce the following
statement to ^ ^ ^ ^ p m m i H H B S a f l a F w n o have informed me
that they are^pecS^Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
United States Department of Justice and who ba-re also informed me
that I do not have to make a statement and that i f I do make one,
i t may be used against me in Federal Court.
I was born on April 12, 1900 in Libau, Latvia, formerly
Russia. My father's name i s JAMES THOMASTOEETJSR-HILLjmy mother's
name i s IDA CHARLOTTE VON KLINGE. Both are residing at the present
in Germany. My older brother, ERIC TIIHEELER-QILL, i s a doctor of
medicine and chemistry in the city of Stuttg
for the Board of Health. __
present employed as interpreter and i s residing in
Hamburg, Q*rmany~ He was formerly employed by the German Diplomatic
at
present in Astoria, Long . He is employed at the moment as
an elevator operator.
Up to my fourteenth birthday I attended the Russian High
School in Libau. Fro* 1914 up to 1918 I attended Military Cadet
School of Peter the Great at St. Petersburg. After the RevolutjQk
I returned home to Latvia where I finished high school* The day
after my graduation from high school I enlisted as a volunteer
in the Baltic Army to fight against the Bolsheviks* After nine
months of service I returned briefly home for a week and went to
Lithuania where I figured as assistant on a big f a n where I r e -
mained for one year.
In 1920, my father, passing through Germany to Switzerland,
took me along and placed me on the farm in northern Germany that
belonged to my cousin. I worked for three years as Assistant
Manager and Manager and immigrated to the United States July 1,
1923.
I arrived July 1, 1923 at the Port of New Tork on the
S. 5. MUNCHEN. I married in 1926 a Gorman g i r l ,
City Hall, New York City.
From July, 1923 up to June, 1938 I worked a t the f o l -
lowing places * CouMomrai-th Ice Company, Vest End Avenue, as an
ice puller, for approximately eleven months. I work**! for F .
Dauf Duplicator Company, Inc. for almost four years as Assistant
and Foreman. For the Third Avenue Railway Company I worked as a
Bill mechanic for one year* From 1929 until 193d I worked for
the same company, Third Avenue Railway Company, as a trolley
operator.
Question
"Axel, i t i s ay understanding that on June 15, 19>8 you
returned to Germany for a v i s i t . Will you kindly outline in detail
your activities during the tine that you were in Germany."
I arrived in Hamburg June 22 on the S. S. St# LOUIS with
my family, consisting of my wife and three minor children* I
stared in Hamburg for about a month with ay parents, then went to
south Germany, state of wuerttemberg, tews of Pfnllingen. He
remained about a month in Pfullingen and then we moved to the
town of Reutlingen where I secured a position as a timekeeper at
a machine factory. I worked there until the outbreak of the war
between Germany sndPolandj on account of being an American citisen,
I was laid off on September 11, on account of the factory started
to manufacture war materials for the German Army.
I secured a job at a non-defense concern, which was a.
wholesale paper business. My earnings from this place were not
sufficient for the ^ i f r i j b i i i
that time an offer t h r o u g h l l l l l l l H I H m m m m m m m m m m f f
to the United States as an Agen^rorTheGermanGoverralent, for
the purpose of securing information of British and neutral armed;
freighters carrying war materials to Great Britain. I cabled my
brother that I would come t o Hamburg for an interview in order to
learn particulars about my future job*
About ten days after this cable I received * registered
l e t t e r containing fifty German Marks in cash, covering expenses for
my voyage to Hamburg. Two days l a t e r I undertook this t r i p and
was met
The day after my arrival at Hamburg I was introduced in
a room of the Hamburg mail railroad station to a gentleman wbo <'
explained to me the purpose of my intended trip to the United
States* I was supposed to act as an agent to deliver information
regarding shipping of armed British and neutral freighters carrying
war materials to Great Britain. My t i t l e was known as Agent of
Information*
I received a promise that my family will be fully
supported for the time of my absence in Germany and so I agreed
to undertake this t r i p . The name of this person who made me t h i s
offer i s known to me, although under an assumed name, as i t was
told to me by my brother* For reasons of my security and for my
family's security, I do refuse to name this person.
After this interview I returned to Reutlingen to my
family, waiting for orders to return to Hamburg, as I was told
that 1*11 have to break in as a radio operator* I received for
seven weeks training by a corporal of the German Army in sending
and receiving. I was also instructed to code messages after a
book t i t l e d "Half Way to Horror*" This book was to be used by
me in the coding and decoding of messages between Mew York and
Hamburg* They furnished BK> with s copy of the saae book at the
end of my instructions* This BBQ book was turned cwr by me t o
the Federal Agents , | | H ^ H H H H H H H B at 670
S t . Ann's Avenue on
At the finish of my final instructions I returned to
my family at Reutlingen for four days and returned then to Ham-
burg where I received $500. in American currency with the
instructions to hand over $100. at my arrival in New York to
CHARLES REUPSR* The remaining $400. I was supposed to use for
my living expenses and the purchase of a complete shortwave
receiving and transmitting s e t .
I was introduced to CHARIES HEUPER at the waiting room,
first class, Hamburg main railroad station* a few days before his
departure for New York* I t was agreed that on my arrival in the
United States CARL REUPER and I would work together* I received
FEUPER'S telephone number on the day of my departure from Hamburg
and was instructed to get in touch with him at my e a r l i e s t con-
venience after my arrival in New York, which I did*
I booked passage on the TJ. S. liner Washington or
Manhattan, which, I do not recall* I arrived in New York April
30, 1940* A few days after my arrival in Mew York I took up a

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course in code at the I* M* C. A., West 63rd {Street* I attended
twenty lessons for an approximate period of two months*
I secured work at Thirst Quenchers, I n c . , located at
17 Taverly Place, New York City, i n the capacity of a stock clerk,
where I remained u n t i l the middle of May, 1941* Since that time
I was not successful i n securing another position*
Question by)
"Axel, will you kindly tell us how you first contacted
CARL EEUPER and the conversation which you had with him at the time
of this first contact, and outline generally the association you
have had with him since that time*11
Two days after my arrival in Mew York I contacted CARL
REUPER by phone in New York and arranged a meeting place for ttm
following day at the Pennsylvania Station near tike information
desk* Since that meeting I met Mr* REOPER on several occasions
at my residence, 142 West 80 Street, where I was introduced by
him to FELIX JAHJKE. Mr* FELIX JAHNKE, being an exwradio operator,
Is the German Army, seemed to be of scae help to acquaint me with
the operation of radios*
Subsequent to this time, at my request, F E L H JAHNKE
made several trips to the Brooklyn piers for the purpose of obtain*
ing information concerning ships which weresalling to England and
neutral shipping and the type of cargoes being carried*: Be ma^t reports
to me concerning the information obtained and I forwarded it to Qermany
by letter* About July, 1940 CARL REUPER took me up to Mr. JOSEPH
KLEIN'S house on 126th Street in order to talk things over about
the construction ef a portable transmitting and receiving set*
J. KLEIM agreed to get me a receiver and transmitting set at a '
price of around $200* KLEIN stated t f a ^
would reach, around the whole world* During the time this set was
built J. KLEIN indicated that he knew that this set would be used
to transmit commercial information to Germany.
Mr* EEUPER asked me to let him know as soon as X sadjt
a contact with Germany* CAHL RETJPER and I were supposed to work
as a team, although each of us had a different line of information
which we were supposed to obtain* I worked on information about
armed freighters carrying war materials from the Mew York Harbor
to Great Britain, which I did up to April, 1941*
About the f i r s t of Horember, 1940 JOE KLEDJ bad completed
the radio transmitter and receiver wnich be -was building for me
and I called at Ms house during the f i r s t part of November, 1940
and took this radio equipment to 53 Caldwell Avenue, Bronx, Hv
York, where we set i t up for the purpose of transmission* The
transmitter purchased from JOE KLEIN n u supposed to operate on any
frequency on the twenty and forty meter band*
I tried several times to make * contact with Haaburg
but failed to do so on account of ths receiving set being inac-
curate. In May, 1941, I decided to purchase a HaiUdrafta^^^^^
Receiverandboucht saeh a set on time payments flHIHHHflF
m H H | m ^ w h o operates a radio and refrigerator and some
electrTca^appSaaces shop. Two weeks after my purchase I lost
jayjoba^rh^-at Quenchers and was forced to return this receiver
m H f Mr. JAHNKE obtained a new Hallicrafter receiving
set and we were going to use i t in connection with the transmitter*
Froa late 1940 until May, 1941 I tried on many occasions
to contact Hamburg *ith sj transmit er and on a t l e a s t three
occasions I went on the air with coded massages concerning
frequencies and sending tine without receiving any answer from
Haaburg, and informing Hamburg about my inability to contact
them at the previous agreed time and asking them to give me an
evening sending time; also notifying them that I could not contact
them on the agreed frequency*
All of the above mentioned transmissions were made at
2sOO P. M. Eastern Staadard Time* I used 14, 870 on the twenty
meter band and 9,000 on the forty meter band from October to March*
Question bj
"Did you ever receive any money from CABL REUPER?"
Tea, s i r .
Question byl
Iftat wes the circumstances under which you received
that money and what was the amount?"
$100. In the spring of 1940 I requested from CARL
HETJTER acme money as I was in financial difficulties. A few
weeks later I was handed a sealed envelope by Mr* F E L H JAHNKE
containing $100. in five twenty dollar bills, at which tine be
said "Here is a letter fro* Charlie.1* About two or tbree week*
before I received that sealed envelope with the $100. from CHJVRIES
REUFER I asked him whether he would be able to give me some money
for my personal use. He asked me what I wanted the money for so
I told that all the money that I am earning Is going away and I
couldn't boy any shirts and so on.
When I opened the sealed envelope I was surprised to
find five twenty dollar bills as I did not expect such an amount
I felt like asking him for some money because we were working
for the same cause and I figured that some day that money would
be returned to bin.
Durin the early part of this year while EEUPER was
visiting me at our apartment, 563 Caldwell Avenue EEUPER handed
to JAEJJKE s ten dollar bill as he was out of work and in need of
sows sionsy and for his assistance in helping we with my radio
In the early part of 1941 during a conversation itth
JAHNKE I wanted to find out whether he knows someone that could
help ne with the work during the forenoon or early afternoon and
make one or two trips during the week along the Brooklyn piers
and get me names of British ships loading war materials.
I was introduced to
by Mr. JAHNKE. Knowing that he was unemployed at thai time, and
judging by bis conversations, I found out that he still is a good
German and he could be eventually of any help to me In obtaining
information about shipping. He agreed to go down to the piers
in Brooklyn for me and try to get any information he could about
ships loading war materials for Britain. He made about three or
four trips to Brooklyn docks and after each trip furnished me with
a list of names of ships. I personally accompanied him the first
time to show him which route to take and rechecked his reports
after that*
From August, 1940 on I made numerous trips alomg the
Brooklyn docks for the purpose of getting information concerning
ships loading war materials for Britain and the information which
I accumulated I reported by ainaail to Germany* Before starting
my voyage across the ocean I received several addresses to whoa
I was supposed to report the inforuation concerning British and
neutral ships which I was able to obtain* Two of these addresses
are as followsi

In Bailing information to these addresses I always


used a fictitious return address.
With reference to the code book "Halfway To Horror,11
which I used in coding messages to Germany, I consider this infor-
mation a military secret sad re fust to gi"ue any further information
about i t *

1 have read the above statement consisting of six and


one half pages, and i t i s a l l true to Vue bust of sy kno-rlsdgs and
belief.

AXEL 'WHEELER-filLL
Witnessed:
New Tork, Hew lork.
July 5, 1941.

to ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ m ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | M h o have informed
se that they sureSpee^Lari^exrfcaortSerederal Bureau of In-
, vestigatlon, U. S. Department of Justice and who have also la-
zy^/ formed me that I do not hare to make a statement sad that if
\Q * I do sake one that it may be used against me in Federal court.
This statement is for the purpose of suppl
Ion previously furnished by me to Special Agen _
fin a signed statement which I execu
at New Tork, New loric, on June 29, 1941.
In connection with the radio messages which I endeavored
to transmit to Hamburg, Germany I remember transmitting the three
following messages which were encoded by me by using the book
"Halfway to Horror*. I do not remember the exact dates on which
I transmitted these messages but I do remember that the first two
r # aent during the month of April 1941* and that the last one
concerning my having obtained a asrc radio receiver was sent during
the first part of May 1941. The approximate wording of these
messages was as followst #1 "Received your letter to late unable
to keep set time on account of work. Will work at 5 1M MEZ"
#2 "INDIAN Prince left New York date -*r~- with ten twin motor
planes presumably for England* #3 "In possession of new receiver
please call Saturday and Sunday twenty o'clock MEZ. Working on
14370 kilocycles."
The first message was in reply to a letter which I had
received from Germany requesting that I listen for their radio
station from 2 to 2*10 PM EST and that I call this station from
2:10 to 2x20 PM on days that I had traffic to send* My message
was to explain to them that I had received the message to late
to obey it and that because of my working hours at that time I
would be unable to call them at the time mentioned and that I
would call them at 5 AM MEZ.
The second message was concerning the Indian Prince, a
ship which I had seen loading twin engined fighting planes at the
Bush Terminals in Brooklyn, this was to advise Germany of the
date of departure of this ship and the fact that she was probably
destined for England.
2 -

The third message was to advise Oeraaay of the fact that


I had a new receiver in as much as I had all ready told the* that
my old receiver was not working properly. I also asked them to
call ae on Saturday and Sunday at Twenty oclock KSZ beeaase I
would be free from my work at that time and would be able to operate
my radio. I told the* in this message that I would transmit on
14870 kilocycles. I was supposed to listen for the German station
at 13800 kilocycles.
I hare read the above statement consisting of one page
and it is all true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

(signed)
Axel Wheeler-Hill

Witnessed:
Special Agent,
City.
Special Agent, /s/
Federal' Bureau of Investigation,
U. 3. Department of Justice,
607 U. S. Court House, Foley Square,
New York City, New lork.
VEC:MAM

65-1819 TEEELER-HILL

At tfce time of AXEL FEELER-HILL'S arrest, he indicated


that the radio transmitter he had been using was located in a closet
in the north bedroom of Apartment F-6, 563 Cauldwell Avenue, Bronx,
New York. A transmitting set and a Hallicrafter Super Defiant Hi-
frequency receiving set was also found in the closet designated.
He stated the book used in encoding messages -was located in his room
in apartment 10, at 670 St. Anne's Avenue, Bronx, New York.

HHEELER-HILL executed waiver of search, permitting search


of the above mentioned room, where he was taken. The
^ found to be the residence of I
f signed a waiver of search permitting
ViHEHLER-KILLf S room to be searched.

TSHEELER-HILL here turned over the book entitled "Half Way


To Horror", by DAVID HUME, Albatross Edition, which he stated he had
used in encoding his messages. He also turned over a U. S. Compass
which he ststed he used in placing his radio antenna in order that
the maximum signals would be directed toward Hamburg, Germany.

A. detailed description of the property found in the


possession of AXEL 1VHEELER-HILL at 563 Cauldwell Avenue, is as
follows?

1 Super-Defiant high frequency radio communications


Receiver, manufactured by the Hallicrafter Company,
serial number H 128839.

1 Hallicrafter Dynamic Speaker, serial number PM 10


C C3343.
1 Black Case approximately the size of a portable
typewriter containing a radio transmitter unit
which unit is powered with 2 6 L 6 tubes in push
pull.
.
1 Square Black Case slightly smaller than a portable
typewriter containing the power unit for thia
transmitter which consists of a transformer which
can be plugged into a 115 volt circuit and a Rectifier
tube.

1 Black case containing a radio receiver unit containing


a 6 tube radio receiver unit.
VEC.-MAM

65-1819

Other miscellaneous radio material was found at 563 Cauldwell


Avenue, Apt. F.

The pertinent property found at 670 St. Anne1* Avenue, Apartment


10, which belonged to AXEL WHEELER-HILL is as followsj-

1 Paper bound voltua* of "Half Way to Horror"

2, U S Compass.

3 Sheet of ruled paper bearing notation - "F. FINK,


670 - 7th Avenue," This paper also bore indentations
of writing, appearing to be a coded message.
U* Sheet of paper on which was written the Q. signals
and their meanings used by radio operators.
WHEELER-HILL

65-1819

FELIX JAHNKE in his statement dated June 29, 19-41, on Page 1,


(first statement), stated that through PAUL SCHOLZ he was introduced to
GAEL REUPSR, -who asked him to assist him in helping Germany against
England and when he said he would, sent AXEL 1HEELER-HILL to him in
order that he, JAHNKE, might help him along. This was in the latter part
of October, 1940, He, JAHNKE, and YHEELER-HILL then called on JOSEF
KLEIN and had him build a transmitting set for them. AXEL TOEELER-HILL,
then came to live with him, JAHNKE. JAHNKE then stated that AXEL wHEELER-
HILL asked him to check on English ships in order to find out what was
being shipped, which he did, in Brooklyn, and reported the information
obtained to WHEELER-HILL.

JAHNKE stated that in April 1941, WHEELER-HILL gave him a


coded message to send.

JAHNKE in his second statement, dated June 29, 1941, elaborates


on the above and adds that AXEL WHEELER-HILL told, him that he was sent
over here by the Gsrsan Government. Further, that on another occasion
AXEL SHEELER-HILL told him to tell CARL REUPERheneeded some money.
He, JAHNKE, told this to SCHOLZ and l a t e r m H H ^ b a m e to the
apartment and handed him an envelope and sa3d^"nandthie envelope to
ALEX with the best regards from CARL."

Subsequently, PAUL SCHOLZ told him to stop working with


AXEL WHEELER-HILL, as he had helped him enough.

Ln a statement dated, July 5, 1941, states, on Page


3, that he went to PAUL SCHOLZ' apartment and CARL REUPER, whom he knew
as CARL FISHER, came to the apartment, took two envelopes
and asked SCHOLZ to deliver one of them. SCHOLZ asked | p
would have time the following day to deliver the envelope toJAHNKE'S
apartment for some one he named and said was a Russian. He delivered the
envelope to FELIX JAHNKE.

JOSEF KLEIN, in his statement dated June 29, 1941, Page 1,


claims to have met AXEL WHEELER-HILL as ALEX in a bar room on 86th
Street, New York City| later in April 1940 HHEELER-HILL came to his,
KLEIN'S apartment and they-talked over radio .transmitters and AT,TCT ..
stated he would like to get a small portable transmitter. Previous to
this SCHULZE (PAUL SCHOLZ) had" told him he was going to bring a man to
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his place to see about getting a transmitter. ALEX told him about
taking lessons in telegraphy at the Y.M.C.A.
He, KLEIN, rent to the Douglas Radio Store, and discussed a
transmitter of the type, ALEX wanted. He, KLEIN, bailt this set prior
to August 12, 1940. During the construction ALEX visited him and also
brought with him a man named FELIX, who knew more about code or operating
than ALEX did. ALEX then asked for a crystal with a frequency of 13,800
kilocycles, which was in the commercial band. According to KLEIN, ALEX
then told him he wanted to use the set to transmit commercial messages
to Germany. He knew ALEX was going to violate the rules of the Federal
Coramunica^jns Commission, but he did obtain the crystal for him through
fl|Hj^HHan amateur radio operator and friend of his, who assisted
^^o^construction of the transmitter for "WHEELER-HILL.
FELIX also told him, KLEIN, that ALEX had received a letter
from Germany advising his signals had been received.

In his statement dated June 29, 1941, beginning


on Page 2,~states, thatTKLEIN told him that SCHOLZ had recommended an
acquaintance named ALEX,who he identified as AXEL lflHEELER-HILL, to him
who wished to have a transaitter constructed, and also wanted a receiver
to go along with it. J ^ U ^ s t a t e d he assisted KLEIN in constructing
the transmitter the receiver being constructed by the Douglas Radio
Store. He told ALEX that the transmitter would reach all parts of the
world but since the war began contacting anyone outside of the United
States was illegal. This did not interest ALEX. KLEIN then told him
ALEX wanted a crystal w^U^a^f^adamental frequency somewhere in the
commercial bands, and flHHHB then figured the set was to be used
for trans-ocean service^thoughhe purchased the crystal and turned
it over to KLEIN. ALEX and a friend, FELIX, took the sets from KLEIN
sometime in the fall of 1940. S | | H ^ - S O advised, he gave KLEIN
instructions in how to repair theset at a later date.

CARL REUPFR. in his statement dated June 30, 1941, beginning


on Page 2, after telling about receiving instructions in espionage
work in Hamburg, Germany, tells of meeting AXEL 1HEELER-HILL in a
cafe and then in a railroad depot in Hamburg, where another man was
present* On the latter occasion he, REUFERj was told by the man that
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he hoped they, AXEL "WHEELER-HILL and himself, RtUPER, would meet and
get along all right in the United States.

REUPER states that he arrived in the United States in April,


194-0, and several weeks later, by appointment made in Germany, he met
AXEL YKEELER-HILL at the Pennsylvania Depot in New lork City and met
him on several occasions after that. 1HEELER-HILL told him of taking
lessons in operating telegraphic equipment and thus he, introduced
JAHME to him to assist him. REUPER states he knew JOSSF KLEIN and
also arranged the meeting between KLEIN and VvHEELER-HILL. He also
states he saw the small portable set in a black box at KLEIN'S
apartment*

REUPER admitted helping TKHEELER-KILL financially while he


was unemployedo
VEC:MM

65-1819 WHEELER-KILL

The records of the Chase National Bank, New York City,


reflect that AXEL 7iHEELER-HILL, Hamburg 39, Haversweg 8, on July
26, 1938 placed an order for $1,225.00 north of Reuckmarks. This
order -was subsequently cancelled,,
VEC:MAM

IJHEELER-HILL

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AXEL YfflEELER-EILL was arraigned before United States


Commissioner MARTIN C, EPSTEIN, Brooklyn, New York, on June 30,
1941, and upon a plea of guilty, he was bound over for action
of the Federal Grand Jury* His bail was fixed at $25,000. in lieu
of which he was remanded to custody.

On July 15, 1941, the Federal Grand Jury for the Eastern
District of New York returned an indictment charging AXEL WHEELER-
HILL and other named defendants -with conspiracy in two counts to
violate Section 233 of Title 22 and Section 32 of Title 50, United
States Code.

TiaiEELER*iIILL -was arraigned before the United States District


Court on July 18, 1941, and plead guilty to both counts. His bail was
continued at 25,000 in lieu of which he Tfas remanded to custody pend-
ing sentence by the court, set for Sept-saber 3- 194.1*

On July 25, 1941, AXEL FEELER-KILL again appeared before


the court and asked permission to change his plea of guilty, to not
guilty, which was granted. He was remanded to custody pending trial
set to begin on September 3, 1941
VEC:MAM

65-1819 AXEL WHEELER-KILL

POSITION AND DATES FIRM

Helper, 1924 to March 1925 F. F Daus Duplicator Co. Inc.


24 West Houston Street, New York, N.Y.
(Reason for leaving < Resigned)

Mill Hand Apprentice, 1925 to Third Avenue, R.R. System,


March 1926 65th and 3rd Avenue, New York, Net York
(Reason for leaving < Resigned)

Foreman, August 1926 to F. F. Daus Duplicator Co., Inc.


August 1929 24 West Houston Street, New York, New York.
(Reason for leaving Reduction of Force)

Operator - October 19, 1929 Third Avenue R.R. System,


to June 1938 65th & 3rd Avenue, New York, New York*
(Reason for leaving < Failure to return)

Porter nd Truck Driver, Thirst Quenchers Inc.


June 1940 to May 1941. 17 B. Waverly Place, New York, New York*
(Reason for leaving Reduction in personnel)
VECsMAM

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DESCRIPTIONj
NAME AXEL HEELER~HILL, alias
"Alex" A* D. Neeland.
Age 41 years
Height 5' 10"
Weight 170 lbs.
Eyes Blue
Hair Blonde
Complexion Fair
Build Stocky
Scars & Marks 3" operation scar at base of spine
l^tt cut scar back of right hand
Place of birth IAbsu, Latvia
Date of birth April 12, 1900
Residence 670 St. Anne's Avenue
Bronx, New York
Citizenship Naturalized citizea
Certificate # 3219957, dated 11-18-29
Social Security #065-09-9933
Relatives i Father - JAMES THOMAS TfiEELER-EILL,
Wiertteaberg. Germany
Mother ml'CHARLOTTE VON KLINGEN WUEELE&-
HILL. Waerttenberg, Gei

Children

Brothers

ERICK ?IHEEIER-HIII,
Doctor - Staate Institut
Stu
Sister-in-law-

Education High School, Military Cadet School of


Peter the Great, St. Petersburg, Russia*
Employment Presently unemployed
VECiMAM
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DESCRIPTION: cont'd HHEELER*HILL

Fingerprints Forwarded to the Bureau 6/28/41


Criaiinal Record None found in the records of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
as indicated by letter dated June
30, 1941.
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CLASSIFICATION.

1. Immigration and Naturalization.

2. Espionage Activities - Knovgi or Possible.

William Sebold.

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

4. Microphone Surveillance - (Admissibility Questionable.)

5. Etnployg^nt Record.

6. History and IVior Acti-rities.

0
i PSB:PS

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Business Address:

The records of the Deputy Clerk, United State* District


at 641 Washington Street, Kew York City, reflect that
declaration of intention to declare citizenship
j j ^ ^ ^ j j ^ + j i n ^ - ^ ^ - i A e a t e d that he had been born i n Bad'Nauheim,
Gemany ojxfJ^KKBKK/KQKw Tft&t he had immigrated from Hamburg,
Germany on the SS Kew York which arrived at the port of New York on
May 22, 1927.
, 8HBIBF^^^ e d petition for United States oititenship
B^n the Supreme Court of Queens County a t Jamaica, Long; Island,
Tew ork, on April 4, 1935, which petition w s granted en October 5,
1935,
indicated that his wife ^wa* born on March 12,
1905 ente red__j;3ifl_nniiifld_Sjbate a i n
her name hey
had jnarried i n Hew York City
3d from May, 1927, untllSepteiaber,'1928 a t _ _
f
New York City, as ^(HHHHRB^ 1 1 ' ^aB Treasurer1
From October, l92Q^ntL^ai^^^T5^L9SCv he was emplojpad ^'^
ant Clerk for I I m ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ P Him Vm li ^i I./.,,..In Febrnai^iil92S
he was employed bs

Prtsm the x l l e s . o f the Matri Lb Company,


k City, i t ,
and hisBfl^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^f and resided;

'V; v
"'*

" , ' * ; , - ' f'


- ^ ^ ; i
- PSB:PS

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|became a subject of investiga-


tion in t h i s case as.a result of having been contacted on several
occasions by Subject FRANZ STIGLER, a known German. Espionage Agent,
and having h e ^ i j a f l n o n ^ e v e r a l w hoccasions
o is al
in
ft
company with FBAS2
STIGLER a n d H H s s s i H H H I ' contact of FKAJiZ jSTIGLE
and who has been employed as a member of the crew on the SS America.

At t h i s date t h i s . has not disclosed any-


thing definite which would ahc German Espionage Agent
other than the fact that he i s ft contact Z STIGLER'a.
i
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The follovdng description-was obtained from a review


of the instant file, ' . . .

llsme:
Born:
Age:
Height: 6 1"
Weight: 175 lbs.
Race: Tihi te
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Brown
Complexion: Fair
Scars and Varies: Scar on forehead
Photograph: In file
Citizenship: United States. Certificate nuitiberi
'at. Ken York, October 5, 1933
languages:
Address:
Occupation:
I ' ,* i''

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WITNESS CLASSIFICATION

1. Immigration and Naturalisation


Passport Division
on H sland.

2. Espionage Activi td.es . Known.or Possible


William Sebold
Diesel Magazines, Inc.
Cashier. Queens Gonnty Savings Bank
.Bank
Buda Co.,

Survaillaaces Corrobwative or Direct Evidence


-* , 4'

4, Microphone Surveillance ~ (Admiasibility Questionable)

Eecord
Supervisor, NY # State Biaployment Service*
Treaarurer, Bretrster Aeronautical Corp.

v -

6. History and Prior Activities.

:t~
*

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; FEC:AB

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BE: PAUL HOWARD WILKIHSEH ' ,,

Address: 33-38 Parsons Boulevard


Flushing, long Island, New York
Office: 11 West 42nd Street
New York, New York ; '',

MAX BLA1TK told WILLIAM SEBOLD that he knew a


named WILKINSEK.who was a spy. BLMJK told SEBOLD that WILK
is an -&merioan-born Diesel engineer and author. BLANK told
that WILKENSEN obtains technical information, for publications' of
which he is the author and then sends the information on to Germany.
(Serial 6309, Page 9)
Investigation of the activities of WILKH5SEN by the
New York Field Office beginning in December of 1938, reflects that
TfTILKIHSEU was born in St. Paul, "Minnesota on February 2, 1895. He
was at school in England from 1907 to 1911 and has worked abroad at
various industries, principally in aircraft factories and. Diesel, engine
research. WILEQifSEN is the author of. a book entitled, "Diesel Aircraft,
Engines," published iii 6*r York in 1936*
WILKIHSEH has traveled extensively and there was a
strong possibility that his travel was financed by German interests',-
probably the Junkers Aircraft Company. A review of the account of
WILKINSEH at the Queens County Savings Bank reflects several checks
from Jtaakers. Mention is made of the fac

WILKIHSEH appeared before the Congressional Committee


on"Military Affairs on June 20, 1940, at whioh tiae he testified at
length concerning Diesel engines and the part that they may play in
National defense*
No proof has been developed as yet of espionage activi-
ties on the part or WILKIH'SEN. ..-. " -J .

(Report ofValsmlJIJJIHIJJilHF
. Hew York, HY, dat6d April-'25,
1941, Pages 34-38) " % '. .

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65-1819

TOTNESS CLASSIFICATION.

ZENZINGrER*' '

1. Immigration and Naturalization.


Director .of Alien Registration. ' " >
Passport-Division, *
Byrorf H. Uhl, Dist. Director Immigrat. & Natural. S&t*

2. Espionage Activities - Kncrwn or Possible.

Salisbury, Md.
,ar.Mechanics Magazines;

3. Surveillances - Corroborative or Direct Evidence.

A* Microphone Surveillance - (Admissibility Questionable.)

5. " Employment Record.

6, History and Prior Activities.

V-. V -
PSB:PS
* ,

5-1819

RE: BERTKAM WOLFGANG 2ENZIKGER


aliases Wandtner, B. Zenzinger

Address: Skyline Drive


" - . Bone11^Subdivision
Topanga Canyon-, California

Formerly: 625^ Venice Boulevard


Venice, California

July 21, BERTRAM WOLFGANG ZEKZItfGER first became connected with


1940 this case as a result of a letter mailed on July 21,
1940, at Salisbury, Maryland, by subject FRANZ STIGLER
to ^Mr. E. ZENZINGER, c/o Miller, 305 Ocean Avenue
Saitia Monica, California.* This address was determined
by the Los Angeles Office to be inhabited by PAUL J
MIUBa.whois the uncle of .Mrs. ZEEZIKGER. The ZEU-;
ZIHGE&S ait the time of. their entry into the United
States indicated the .MILLERS as their destination.

August'3, 'Subject FRANZ STIGLER made a statement to.SEBOLD on this


1940* date that he.had recently mailed an invisible writing
pencil .to a German; Agent named' WANDTNER (phonetic - '
ZENZINGER), c/o Killer, Santa Monica, California.

'-,. . ' (S. #6855)

' v / j >".""%^2EHZJHGER.entered "the .United S t a t e s on Maroh 18,, 1940,


at NW 7ork^^etr;tqrk "on the SS 14ABHATTA1I,* and gave as h i s "reason for
coming to the United States - " t o get. out of Europe," ha having been i n
Europe prior to h i s entrance to the United S t a t e s . He and h i s wife
claimed t o . b e . . c i t i a e n s . o f JOHfiJfKASBURG, SOUTH AFRICA, and i t appears
that he has r.^aained i n the United.States longer than he originally
planned, inasmuch; AS he bs requested an extension of stay from the Bureau
of Inmigr'ation and ifaturalitation, Long Island, Hew -York, several times.
Eis last request for an extension of stay was granted, extending his stay
in the .United States until April $0, 1941.

:-^r *.*>:.
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ZENZINGER has resided in the vicinity _ of Los Angeles,


California, during the entire time he hac been in the United States,
Except, after his a r r i v a l , he remained in New York City*
( , p ^ - 3 to 22,
#5855, and #3521, p*60)

.ZENZINGER was taken into voluntary custody by' the Los


Angeles Office on April 16, 1941. He gave a statement admitting that
he was a naturalized citizen of South Africa, ,of German extraction, and ",
was an Agent.of the Qersibn Government, not registered with the United ' -\
States State Departaent, and forwarded information to Germany pursuant'.',*[_'
to agreanent with a German Agent (not a subject of this case). Accord- - .
ir.gly a complaint was filed on April 21, 194l> at Los Angeles, California,
charging ZENZINGER with conspiracy to violate the Registration Act", Sec*
233-e, Title 22, U. S Code, and that i t was part of said conspiracy .that. :
ZENZING5P. nould become and would act in the United States end elsewhere .
as an agent of a foreign principal and would wilfully f a i l to f i l e any
stateisent required to be filed by the kr.t approved June 8, 1938/ Chapter. ;

At a preliminary hearing before, the United-States .Coiit,.t.


aissioner a t Los Angeles, California, on April 21,'l941i 2fflZINd^J^ * ; -

a fdnal hearing and was renanded to custody of the United'States Marshal'.


a t Los Angelac, California. He i s a t present confined,in the 'County i . - > ' .

Los Angeles, California, pending action of the Grand Jury, United States
District Court, Southern District of California, >
On April 19, 1941 ZENZINGER made thV following -Voluntary.. ,.-
elatenent to Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation '';.*,
concerning his activities as sn-.'ecpionage'e^ent since- his" n i ^ ^ t ^ ' / ^
United States of America. -' "*" '
:
- "- ' ' .

(S* #6791)

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. -

1
1

y
Los Angeles, California*
April.19; 1941 ; ,

f r e e w i l l and accord, no promises or threats of any )cind .or description


having been made to me. I have been informed "that I do'not have to make
any statement whatsoever, and that any statement that I do make can be used ,
against me in a court of law. I have also been informed t h a t I have the - *;.
right to counsel or attorney.' - /
I was born a t Brunn, Moravia, on July 29, 1904* My father's
name i s AUGUST, and ny mother's name i s MELITTA. Her maiden name was
HARCHSSAEI. My father i s an Austrian-by b i r t h , and his occupation untjLl .,
the time he withdrer from active l i f e , was that of landscape gardener. , * \
My mother is also an. Austrian. When I was four years old, my parents /,
mored to Meran, Austria. I t i s in the South Tyrol, part of former Austria,'"'
and now in I t a l y .
I attended elementary school and college, .in Mejran, : finishing
there about 1922, Then I worked ? E an apprentice in, different factories
for a short time, doing manual work, and then i n 1923^1 entered "t^St't~S,>- -ij t*i*
University of Munich to study science* I graduated from ths .Unlversi% ofv
Munich i n 1927, but continued study and a t the same time tiras. employed;as , "^
an assistant i n the.research laboratory, affiliated with the U^versity* "">. -r:%
During my yesrs a t the University, I studied- par jb^wlarly .electro^pbysics, * , '.*?{
especially doing work with wireless transmitting*^atid receiving e,qjiijxient^0 **-*>
Later I especially engaged in research about'the propagation of radio: waves-' '
and the control of mechanical devices by.radio This (was with regard tb-V- - .
the operation of motorboats, e t c . , by remote -wireless,'control^Whilie;.at^ the t *1%
University, I wrote my thesis on elftctrowraechsnics or1 the tfiefbry *of electricity* '!rv
l!y'research work a t the technical laboratory occupied a period from 1928 l o . *
1929*. . ' ' ' . " "*:
, . . . TJhile studying in Munich, I was also a member of a student" > :> . <
organisation "which was comprised exclusively of s tudents 'of German descent V ' ^)
who were residents or nationals of other countries. This organization was
known as Vereinigung Auolands Jeutscher Studenten. This orsanization was
primarily founded to a s s i s t students of German descent from other countries
to acclimate themselves financially and,socially* . . .
-y.
, ' I continued to associate with this organization'on every ..
occasion I visited 'Munich. Duesto the situation in my home country,
South Tyrol, which was under Italian domination, there was a great
amount of underground a c t i v i t i e s , of which I and others were a part,
and which we aided in every way we could. These underground a c t i v i t i e s ,
the ultimate 'aim of Iwfcich was the return of South Tyrol to Austria or
a Germanic controlled s t a t e / w e r e to remove the Italian domination from
this province in one manner or another. We, ,ae part of thi3 movement,
furnished a l l the information that we could.get ahold of," especially
with regard to the treatment of the population by the I t a l i a n s , the alms
of the I t a l i a n s , tfteir intentions, and the way they went about colonizing
the district} also furnishing information recording the movement of
troops, power plantsj in fact, every type of information that came to
the attention of the Genaanic population of South Tyrol. This information
was returned to Geraany,' nostly verbally, or on occasion, by visiting
people from South Tyrol to Munich, or in writing. In the l a t t e r case,
invisible writing was used-
This activity continued during the tiae I was a student
in l*unich, and I supported this movement whenever and "vfcerever I had the
chance, particularly whenever I visited.South Tyrol, T/taly, or Bavaria,
keeping my eyes open for any information that would be of vsl"* to
Germany, and xurnislie i t to Ojfrs^ny ^7 "ESy ~f this conneeioiifi*e-
A" the V^A^^EiStiY^Jttig^^dfviduals^I^new there ^^4IBHHL ^ o
acted_^^^^^HJ|H^mH||^imi^^^^^^^f^ boy i
from my Ho5elTtowrI|4!.who,
was als^^iterested^ntheSoutt^T^oj3sjri'acti '/ities, and he took p a r t V .
in this movement a l s o .
I had been considering business possibilities outside
Europe, and went to Soutii Tfest Africa, arriving there a t the Port of<
Waleis Bay* I did not. work for the tine being, and did.not look far; .'
immediate employment,; but spent about seven months visiting various" .
points of, interest iii-South West Africa, anii in.big ganw hunting. J.|
financed this t r i p on money I bad saved as a, student, and"As^a.\boi
technician in Muhicfc. After about seven months,.I decided to jtry to'.'get <
a job in Africa, and not to retorti^to Europe* I was successful, and;. :> ' '
received an offer of employment with a German firm in Johannesburg, " ,
namely, Messers Siemens, as,an ejqpeft i n their, inter^^omminication systemi'-
I worked with/tftisc<i^any|'rpm 1930 u n t i l September or 'Octdfcer of 1934*i.\'
My salary a t Siemens varied on account of fluctuations in the whole country
from twenty five to thirty five pounds a month. My reason for leaving this
firm was because certain promises which had been made to me were not" kept,*
and in particular, their promises about my future with the' company.

. * /

(S. #6792}
I decided to start a business cf my c m in South Africa,
I had in mind to act as representative of overseas manufacturing companies,
in South Africa, and I decided to go to Germany to make an investigation
of the situation and possibilities, and contact various firms which might
be desirous of exporting; their goods to South Africa and appoint me ?.e
their representative* I left South Africa early in November, 1934, for
Hamburg, Germany, At this time I had about one hundred pounds, which -was
about the same amount I had -with me -when I entered South Africa four years
before. Upon my arrival in Hamburg, I contacted several exporting houses,
but made no final arrangements, and then I visited Berlin, where I saw my
relatives. Then I went to other towns in Germany, and then to Meran, Italy,
and .stayed "with my parents there until January, 1935

In Janucry, 1935, I went to Hamburg, and to Bremen, to visit


my relatives, and also while there saw different exporting firms Subse-
quently, I traveled about Germany, contacting different firms, to see what
I could do about acting as their representative in South Africa,

I left Germany in May of 1935* from Hamburg, on the S,S


Watussi, and arrived at Gape To-ym, Africa, late in ].!ay, and traveled from
there to Johannesburg. At this time, I ras eraploj^ed by an exporters asso-
ciation of which Richards and Richards "v?a? " member, TV duty was to sell
the various products manufactured by the firms which the exporters PSSC
ciation represented,,

September, I married my wife, in South


A f r i c a , m j H m | ^ H | ^ ^ ^ ^ U ^ Y/e took up our residence in Johannesburg*
At that time I v/as engaged in dealing with mining supplies and entered into
in the Globe Foundry with an individual by the name of ~~<
month and onehalf after wo he.d been married, my wife became sick
and remained sick for several months, until eventually, in January, 1936,
I decided to send her overseas, to her home town, Hamburg, Germany, for
proper treatment. I followed my wife in July of 1936, due to the fact that
I had a protracted attack of sciatica, -which got worse and worse, until I
could do no more Yrork, I, at that time, resigned from the exporters combine.
I stayed in Hamburg a couple of weeks or so, then traveled to Munich and
Meran, where I visited my parents, and eventually my wife and I left for
Africa again. On this trip into South IVrol, I nr.de a point of getting
information which mainly concerned the hydraulic electric plants situated
in Italy, close to the German border, what their output was, their location
and construction. This inform^^Lor^^was^to^send to Munich. Thi?1 informa-
tion had been requested of r a e ^ m ^ ^ ^ H | H ^ ^ h o has been previously
mentioned, "who at that time was in M u r n ^ n ^ ^ ^ U ^ a t that time, was

(S. #6792) ;
engaged in broadcasting and journalistic work, in connection with
his newspapers. He was also a member of the Nazi Party and had been
a member of that party for a long period of time* /
:thered this information and wrote it into a report,
and sent it South Africa*
I arrived in South Africa, with my wife, either late in
August or in September, 1936, again taking up my residence in Johannesburg
and continued in my business at the foundry, and prospecting*
I had operated a firm, under the name of B. W. ZENZINGSR,
Importer and Exporter, at Johannesburg, and handled all types of imports
and exports, butrcai.nlymining equipment*

FrcEi 1937 until early in 1938, I refrained in South Africa.


I had been naturalized previously in 1936, aa4 be came ." citizen of the
Union of South Africa,. and,a naturalized British subject* Sarly in 1938,
I decided to give up ray own business and to return to -Germany, having.in
view to find permanent employment, and to be sent as representative of
some German manufacturer, to South Africa* I returned to Hamburg about -;
March, 1938, and traveled throughout Germany, and also Italy and Switzer*-
land at that time, and finally consulted Messrs. Lorenz, who assured me
that they would employ me in their export department" In Berlin1,' end send,
me overseas as a representative later* I began working for this company ,
early in January, 1939, andwydutd.es there consisted of getting acquainted
with their products and studying them, so I-could be- competent;to, represent\X-
them at a later date as an overseas representative* At this time I was " ",
residing on Rabesstrasse (street) in Berlin, I remained in the employment '
of this company until about August 28, 1939* at which time I received -.
information.from the South African Legation that it would be wise to *
leave the country because of the international situation. I could not.
take my wife with me," due to the fact that she was expecting a child at
this time, and so. I suggested that she 2 to her mother's at Hamburg ss
soon as possible. I TOE not allowed to take any money with me at this time,
but had money in the Netherlands Earlc for South Africa, in Amsterdam, which
I had transferred from South Africa at the time I left South Africa for . ,
(S. #6792) ' \
t

This money amounted to about'forty or sixty pounds. At this


time 1 also had a bank account a t the Eanque Cantonale, at Zurich,
Switzerland. In this account, I had money which had been deposited in
my name, and Tshich originated from a legacy and a trust fund, of which
among others, nry s i s t e r and mother were beneficiaries* The name of the
trust fund was Eohte-Corsen Fund, ishich was legally administered by/theV',
Eanqu* Cantonale, of Zurich* -ftOHTE was an old friend of my parents'
family, and had been a tobacco merchant in Holland. He knew ray father,;
particularly well, but I knew/him also. He had helped me during my-' \ ; ,
studies a t the university. He died in 1939, a t #iich time this trust was
set up under his w i l l . The t o t a l amount of money of which my mother and
sister were beneficiaries was: about 4,000 francs in cash and also about
12,000 guilders iii Butch railway stocks,

I traveled from Germany to Zurich and Bern, Switzerland, where


I remeined u n t i l September 15, 1939. From Switzerland, I went to
gt 15, 1939, where I stayed with my parents. During this
me a l e t t e r in which he stated that he was coining to Meran^ l a t e r ..;
Meran and in conversations with him, I talked the situation over A- ".
with him, and I also informed him about my wife's condition, i . e . , the fact
that she was s t i l l in Hamburg, Germany, and that due to the fact that she was
a British subject and war had broken out between the union of South Africa and
Gensany, Germany because of emigrat^>n restrictions would refuse to permit. ';'.
my wife to leave the country. S U B suggested that he could help and offered
to do so* He then went to Genoany, and,I went to Switzerland*
1
. '''{-'' . a j j j D j , .-.-' . .- "' ' ' '^ :-:- '' '

s Later, J^ipreturned to Meran in. ^October, 1939. I had returned


from >rrf.tzerland in October,; 1939, and remained there for a time, ;
id 1,again met and he made me a special' off er. This conversation took '
plac'in^iferim in a cafe, and hb at this time stated that he definitely would
be able to see thai nry wife would have no,difficulty in leaving the country,"
and'that^he woulft see to it that my. parents would fare well if they were forced
toigp; to Germany* In order to.amplify this statement,' it-might be Etated that""'
my father had been a landscape gardener 'employed by the City of Meran, and due
to the fact that he had some years previously suffered an.attack which disabled
him completely, affecting his brain, he was unable to work, and was wholly
incapacitated. Also, there had been an agreement Entered into between Germany
and Italy previously, ^iich affected the entires population of.the South Tyrol,
includingrayparents, and which provided for all of the German-speaking popula-*
tion in the Tyrol to be transferred to German-^controllsd territory." My father
would fall within this classification, and it appeared that if he were trans-
ferred from Meran to Germany, he -would lose hig pension, shich he was receiving
from the Gity of Meran, due to his disability, unless some arrangements were
made so that he would receive an equivalent amount in the German territory
<:
- -' ''"' - -'- : (S.- # 6 7 9 2 ) " - '-'*'

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8

after his transfer to Germany* I t may also, "be pointed out that a t that time,
on account of the blocade and the war conditions in Germany, "mercy killings"
in Germany were taking place, and due to the affliction my father had, he
would f a l l into this class of persons who might be subjected to these
"mercy killings."
jstated that the conditions under which he offered to
help were that "he would expect-my' cooperation in, obtaining and furnishing
information concerning tbe country to which I emigrated, . He knew that I had
to leave Germany, because of my South African citizenship. I was to
agree to furnish information which they might require about the place to
which I irent, This information, I understood, of course, was to be- returned
to Germany in order to be available to the German authorities, and was of
a nature that would be valuable to thea^fj^a a military point of view* I
agreed that I -noul^do this thing f o r ^ H H a n d he definitely promised
his a s s i s t a n c e . ^ m t e f t a n d I did not hear from him u n t i l January, 1940
In the meantime, my wife and child had been permitted to leave "\
Germany. The baby had been born on November 1, 1939 Kv wife was permitted
to leave Germany, in December of 1939, for Italy, bringing some of her
possessions^ end the baby* he went to Keren, Italy, .and stayed with my
parents.
In the meantime, the provincial authorities had refused to t grant
me a permit to stay i n Meran, Italy, and I had gone to Rome, where I. resided'
in the Pensione Giuliana (abord^^Jjouse), t hInis
January
c
of 19A0, I returned,
to Meran, and was met by J H P H H F ^ ' ^^ I knerr that I was
going to the United States^fT^Mrica, and I had, received a
duetion from,the Bell Telephone Company of Switzerland, to
of the International Telephone and Telegraph Company, of New
thought might be able to help me find employment, J?y introducing me as a^
export representative of a United States firm'In sbme other ,'coaantry outside
of the United States." ' *' .'
At that tune^T conferred wit him in Meran,
shortly after noon,J|BBH|knew that I ha i to go to America,
due to the f a c t t h a ^ ^ S a written him a January, to Munich,
and told him that I had to go to i ^ e r i c a J ^ gave me the detailed
instructions as to what I was .supposed to io in the United States in order to
obtain iinformation "which the German authorities required.
- '; "* He f i r s t instructed me to get employment w^tti some American
firm in the field in which I was competent, and h especially mentioned
to try to find employment either in New York, Detroit, .Chicago, or Pittsburgh*
Once getting employment, I should send a H information I could get hold. of. V
(S..#6792) ,:"''

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i n t h a t p a r t i c u l a r firm and besides t h a t , I was supposed to send information
r e l a t i v e to production^ employment figures i n anaament f a c t o r i e s , powder
f a c t o r i e s , s t e e l f a c t o r i e s , motor car f a c t o r i e s , and the transportation
industry. If there were s t r i k e s , I was to obtain the number of men involved
i n the s trike* If I was i n New York, I was to get shipping d a t a , concerning
ships to England, the cargoes conveyed, s a i l i n g dateB, d e s t i n a t i o n s , a l l '
with particular, regard t o England} also I was t o get information regarding
a c t i v i t i e s i n the harbor i n general, including s h i p b u i l d i n g and the amount '
of: storage (jBpacJe, and t h e increas* orrdecr^ase of s.torage space. ..'JBaey a l s o ;f.
wanted to know about any new cons^ruction."of-factories, how many sieri would' ' :
be employed, what would be produced, and how much would be produced. They
also wanted information regarding ,the nui^ber of ^ n ' a v a i l a b l e to l e a r n t h e ; : '
tool industry and % tb.edifficulty, i n g e t t i n g these nen. I-was, a l s o to inter^-'
view people coiling from Snglend regarding conditions i n England, e s p e c i a l l y '
i n regard to the food s i t u a t i o n , I was elso to obtain and forward copies
of "The Iron Age". ; * > '
_____ 3tated t h a t I should forward t h i s information by l e t t e r . ' ':
written by the nee of i n v i s i b l e m a t e r i a l s , such as wax or alkaloids from
such substances a s t e a leaves, and t h a t these l e t t e r s should be forwarded

I did not receive i n s t r u c t i o n s iu,ccnte.ct cny p a r t i c u l a r men.


nor did I receive i n s t r u c t i o n s to find employment-' i n any p a r t i c u l a r firm. -, - -
I was t o remain i n America f o r the duration of the war,,. --., _','. -V'
Although he did not s t a t e s p e c i f i c a l l y that i f I f a i l e d to
carry out my bargain, sorie action Slight "be taken against*nry people, he '
impressed i t very-strongly upon me that i t was ny duty, and i f I carried ,-.;
out my p*rt, he would see t h a t everything was a l l r i g i t i n Germanyi. ' " > '".'*

At t h e t i B e ^ i n d e r the above-mentioned circumstsnees, I had-, '* '


given my promise fl||||HH| I had cade -up nry wind, not to-engage i n espionage.*,
in the United States_HDui; to get my information from public sources of " '
information, l i k e radio and newspapers, and to a l t e r It." arid enlarge i t i n
a way t h a t i t would appear to the receivers,' l i k e genuine s e c r e t iriforration.

I made arrangements f o r passage- on the S'5 Manhattan,, and


arrived i n New York, together with nry family, on'March 10$-194O* At t h i s > '
time, I and my family tuok up residence a t the St.- Paul Hotel, f W York'
City, and vshOthere, I wrote the f i r s t l e t t e r i n compliance with my
agreement' ^ ^ [ 1 1 Germany. '\ % . ;.
(S. #6792) - T, ;.

^4
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8

This l e t t e r contained information -which I had gathered from


newspapers, which I enlarged Tdth special phrases containing.invented
information. I -wrote this l e t t e r in March, 1940, by f i r s t applying wax
on a piece of paper and Vi riting through this sheet of paper on another
sheet of paper, so that particles of the wax stack to the second paper
and could be made visible by dusting i t with some powdery substance. On
the other, or the same side of the second sheet of paper, a camouflaging
l e t t e r was written. This letter.was posted somewhere in the City of New
York. ' ; ';.;' ',"."'

I traveled, non-stop to California, arriving a t Los Angeles,


and remained a t MR. P J. MILLER'S residence, 305 Ocean Avenue, Santa
Monica, California, My wife and I stayed with PAUL MILLS? for.about one
week, inasmuch as MILLER i s my wife's uncle. However, neither MIIISR nor
anyone associated frith hira, or any other person I met since I arrived in
the United States, had, or has, any knowledge of ray agreement wit!

^ From PAUL MILLER*s residence, ray wife, baby, and myself moved
to ^23 Venice Boulvard^VeniceOalif ornia, where we occupied a small
I mi Inn ii i | B B B B B M B B | | We. decided to stay at this place
upon JMHBMj^^^Ba^5s5i^u3^5at. i t was available*

About three weeks after w^ moved into the place ' a t 623; \ :,
Venice Boulevard, Venice, California^ I wrote anotiier l e t t e r to Germany,
to the address #iich had been given to me, and "vfoich has previously been
set out. In this l e t t e r , I conveyed information r e l a t i v e to airplane
production.in plants around Los Angeles County, In t h i s , and'subsequent
letterey I mentioned airplane production a t Douglas Aircraft Company,
Consolidated Aircraft Company, Boeing, Lockheed, Vultee, and North American
Aircraft, , I cannot rece.ll which plants I mentioned in my f i r s t , or succeeding
l e t t e r s , however, i t was nry plan to pick out about two plants for each
l e t t e r . In niy f i r s t l e t t e r , as in ray succeeding l e t t e r s , I absorbed informs^
tion from the local newspapers and radio broadcasts, -which information. I
transmitted, with f i c t i t i o u s interview with f i c t i t i o u s individuals supposed '
to be working in different aircraft plants. I wrote about three l e t t e r s ,
altogether, u n t i l July, 1940* . ..,;.;;.. -

In orabout July, 1940, I received a l e t t e r , postmarked :


at a place in the east, which I think was a to-wn i n , to the best of ray
knowledge, in Delaware or Maryland. The name of the town was not familiar
to me, but I think i t was a small town. This l e t t e r bore a return address.

(S. #6792) ; -
on the back of the envelope, in the name of, "Me-*-"* I believed the street
addrese was a two figure street in New York City* I have"no recollection
as to the number on the particular street. This letter was ti^ewrltten and ^
was addressed to me in my correct nan>e, at PAUL J. MILLAR'S address, 305
Ocean Avenue, Santa Monica, California.
In this letter, a person who signed himself by a typewritten
signature, HEINZ, which I F an abbreviation for KKCNRICH, instructed me
to us6 a certain pencil tiiich had been sent to .me at the same address,
a few days before, in a separate letter* This previous letter contained
only a pencil and a Llank sheet of paper in which the pencil was Trapped.
This paper wr.s about eight by eleven inches in size, and was -white with _
ruled 3-infts , - '
t
* ** * *

This first letter -which I received, r.anely, the one which"


contained the pencil, bore a return address which' was also New York City,
but which was under a different name and a different street address, -
neither of which I remember* The re1xirrf address- on both-letters and the '
principal address was hand-printed In ink* As I remember it, by com-i '-'
paring these hard-written specimens, I believe that both envelopes had been
prepared by the same person. On the-letter in which the pencil was for-
wrded, there TT.S handprinted on the envelcp<? t.he word, "Sample," When
I received this pencil, I had no idea of its in-tended purpose, but I kept.*'
it, believing that someone had found jay address and,had merely forwarded
ne a sample pencil! as a commercial sample*'-. In. the secohd-letter, the' one 5 .-i
containing the instructions, and which was' signed by',"HEINZ,*-!?was told .'
to write my further message by use of the-'pencil on &. she*iJ^of1'paper, - '''
and then press that sheet'of paper against other'sheets, for*a few minutee.
The original printed paper was to be destroyed,. The second sheet of paper,
which had received the impression, was v supposed to be filled out by me
with .a camouflage meaningless message, it being immaterial according to the
instructions, whether the secret messace'was' printed ^on the written camou- ;
flage or on the reverse side* , I-was also instructed-'t>Jia,t
>
X'sJ^M'trrite. \.
often. This letter occupied 4in all about one.full;' sHeet" of,-typewritten ':,'
natter, well-spaced* This Ie "*"'~:;-n-~ -^^*IJ-1 J-.J^*.* 1^1 **..<_<a -t-ri*.
to a Swedish address, namely,!
I t was specified that I should use Trjie aaare8sT.n the event -._ _,
the -war. No other instructions were contained in this letter, Jfco ujy, r f ^
lection, exfcept that if sending printed'ma.tter this should be.forvyarded via ^'rfS
Japan* .; , .; ' >s-'''
The pencil which had been forwarded.to me looked like an ordi-
nary mechanical pencil, of blue plastic material, and w a s formed-in a round
shape, and i t contained lead which was to all appearances.'j^st like -any 'other
piece of*
like any-'
that -produced

c ' '- "*


>.

From Juiyi 1940^ to the .middle of January, 1941, I wrote about


eight letters ^witda this pencil, itfiich had been'sent to rae* .In all of these
letters, the camouglaged information which I sent related,to' the aircraft
industry, particularly the output of planes at particular plants,, the number
of employees, what new type planes, etc*, the new bombers at Consolidated at'
San Diego, the, new bomber models at v the Douglas plant in Santa Monica, the
strike at the Vultee plant in the fell' of 1940, contracts which jfchese plants
were supposed to have with Great Britain, etc. However, 1!" of Cthis inforr*
raation,' itoich I cannot delegate to any particular letter/ was't^erived froin: '
information given iv. newspapers and on the radio, and entirely .fictitious
additions. One of these radio programs from rrhich I, obtained information was
WYXE WILLIAMS* program, of which I made special use. I also' read local
newspapers. The'newspaper sources of my information were derived from
the common newspaper publications in the Los Angeles.area* I never'conr* '-'
tacted any aircraft employees at any of-the aircraft plants in the ,Los
Angeles area, nor have I ever been inside any aircraft factories, . In my
letters, however, I had stated that I had contacted various,officials and /
did give names and their functions, of these officials /whom I was suppoeecV
to have contacted, this being tc make my reports appear more genuine*
In November of 1940- .1 threw-the pencil away because I
worried that it might cause my arrest, in some mariner* - .1 tore the pencil
up first, and threw the pieces in the* garbage pit, and part of them iri the
garbage can. I believe I < threw*fcbe*metal parts-in the" garbage canj'l.aa
not sure. The garbage was" taken away* ( $ -

I retained the lead "and" carried "it arottod !pa:rt of ^ the time in
my coat pocket* I left it at home part of the time* 'I kept this ^Lead
until sometime in J?.nuary .or February, 1941,' date not recalled, when, I
threw it into the ocean at Santa-Monica State Beach. *At*^^time'.I iras
walking on the beach at night,with my wife, when I threw'away the lead, m y
wife knowing nothing" about it*. _ , > - : ^ "-; -. ' ' \ 3,-*

- This was the only piece of thi3"type-of lead that I fiad%


At the time I received the pencil, I was curious about what kind of writing
lead.it might be, and I made some tests by writing on a,3heet of paper, and
heated the paper very hot, and to all 1appearances,'nothing:-unusual occurred.
I also heated the 3ead in the fire to" see if-if would react j; but v lt did
not so far as I could tell*
In December, 1940, I received a short l e t t e r froml
telling me to continue writing. This l e t t e r s a i d J J ^ _ y i ^
to hear from me, ; I t was typewritten, and signed H H I Very1, anxious
I think, from Bfemen, Germany, and. written-'dn^^he^^lerrj&n. language. was ..,53M/nano^^
ld
writing wets strange to me< I t was clear'-^to ja.e .'that' i'mus.t.write- iji.compliance,
with.roy agreement.' This -'letter.was.,addressed to me in eWe ; of PATJ" v*T"fe'"'---'
-305*Oceen Ayenue Extension, Santa*#Vniea, California. -\*^/,; -' \ )
'";',' (s.'#6792) . .*':,'./.;'";
m

- In 1939, /while in Switzerland, I tried various -ways of finding


employment s omewhere outside Europe, as a representative or employee
It the time I knew I wes ^oing to America, I informec __
sll Telephone ComDar^^J^urich, of my plans, and
aslcea nxm x or~"a ^Letter of introductj.on H M ^ ^ H t of the International
Telephone and Telegraph Company, at New York City* Upon arrival in New York,
I telephoned his office, and found out that he was away, and vrculd not return
for a considerable time, I then continuedrayjourney, and came straight to
Los Angeles. California* While in Los Angeles, I wrote one letter to
___ sending him the letter of introduction, and telling him what I
mind, ie, to be engaged by a company controlled by the Inter-*
national Telephone and Telegraph Company, as an overseas representative.
I also gave him spme of the detail3 concerning myself He replied .that
he could do nothing about the matter, but would have to contact London
about it . ' . .

I also narote letters to several other firms, attempting to ;>.


carry this plan out* Being unsuccessful, T^rogjDe^^yaltogether. I was
subsequently informed, in June or July, b y H ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ E _ t h a t London did
not see any chances for me at the present
Then I decided that as I had some knowledge of mining, I
invest a small amount of money i n ' a mining proposiHo^^gCa^^ornia, and \ '
Trent to the newspapers and consequently contacted flJHHIHHfly of Los
Angeles, California, -rdio was acting"'as promoter,a75Hur/e^ecH?3OQGQ -
for a share or interest i n ^ ^ i r i i n ^ v e n t u r e situated near ^reka, Califprnia*
I inspected this mine w i t h g H H H p a r i d also other iaines in adjacent di&-
t r i c t s in Oregon, ^ d r e ^ r a e c R t o T l ^ s Angeles, and 3cter found out or came
to the c o n c l u s i o n g ^ m ^ r a s attempting to defraud me of my money, and
was apparently an unreliable person, and his reputation was not too good*
I informed the Division of Corporations, of the State of California, at -
Los Angeles, about this affair, and was thus able to f o r c e H H H | return'
my.$300#p0, -^^^^
In September of 1940, I enrolled as a student in the school
for mechanical dentistry entitled "Smith's Dental I n s t i t u t e , " located on
Hill Street, Los Angelas, California, and finished the course, for which
I paid,$180,00, i n April, 1941. My reason.for taking"'this.course iras that.
I had decided to act" as a dentist on my return to South Africa, and also
to deal in dental supplies and equipment manufactured in the United States,
: ' Since my arrival in the United States, I spent several hours,
off and on, ingathering .materials for, and compiling a thesis concerning
an invention of minej namely: a device which permits to exercise an
influence-on the-nerves-of people byat&ans'of audlo-fVeqrjeiicies,. gpplied
in a certain way I was also b'iisy with other-inventions and a method ' "
permitting a new use of explosive substances as. a motive, power.

(S.#6792)
f

During all the time I was in the United States J. was Ttever:-
employed and never sought employment in the United States of America* ' I
paid my oym and my family's expenses from the money I had in Switzerland in
the Banque Cantonale de Zurich, ivhich was part of the trust fund I mentioned
previously, received on behalf of my sister and my mother. The funds
derived from this account were placed by me in the' Eank of California, in ,
Santa Monica, California. I. opened this account in April, 1940* /. The '
highest aggregate amount in both my savings and checking account amounted
to about $4,000* As my wife and I were the legal trustees of the funds if.{ -
-tfiich my mother and sister have in" the aforementioned Swiss Babk, I had
complete access to the Swiss funds at all times* " . /-,
After I graduated from the dental college, I moved from 623|--
Venice Boulevard to a cabin in Topanga Canyon, situated on the old Topanga
Road, California. I rented this house from Bonells Real Estate Agency,
Topanga Park, California,'. We moved to this new location because I no longer
had to attend school in town, and because we all liked to stay in the
country* " -.' . ' \
I had made arrangements for my passage to South Africa, pending.,' -
approval of the Legation of the Union of South Africa, through the Southern ':
California Touri?L Bureau. I paid a 3<posit of 50*00 for passage on the
S. . Seia Haru and the,Africa Maru, of the O.S.K*-Line* ' I ^intended; to,' :<!,,v .,
leave Los Angeles, with my family, on April 30, 1941V goinjf through Panama,
and stopping at Rio De Janeiro, where the Africa,Maru was supposed to
leave on July 11, for ^ape Toina and Lournco-Marques, the' laet port'.being'ia.;
Portuguese East Africa, and a port for entry to Transvaal.*..,We had penni8*.
sion from the-Legation of the Union of South Africa"to travel, to BraziX 'and
Portuguese Africa (Esst),'and I had obtained permissions from "the Eureau,^
of Naturalization and Immigration to remain in the "United States xtn%tlr ifas ''""'"
s a i l i n g o f t h e S e i a M a r u * ; ' * *'";-.' "'- - "* * <''*.' ' . <",.' ': *v" / . . v ;

I never had any intention of supplying the.German iaovernment ' '.-


with any information /tfiich could be obtained only from sources ^other'/than .
those mentioned in this statement, or to do anything-4etriewntil to th'e \ . '
United States* " " ' '. ""' ' 'V'''' " '* " '
- I have read the"'above statement, consisting; of' tweive (15)' -,\",-.-^
pages, typf?written This" statement is1 true to'fche .b'e'st '6f my '*
and I hereby voluntarily end,freely sign this statement*
**-

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. Witnessed:
. ^ ' ^1 ' ^ V
Special Agent
\ <<A(*/u>pecJL9.jL ' Special'
aysfiJAis. iAgent
igen & m m B B p P / ' H -. }',<:.
VNN F e d e r a l Bureau of I n v e s t i g a t i o n F e d e r a l Bareau,_.pf I n v e s t i ^ t i o n t "" :"-*> - i' H t
-^ Department of J u s t i c e - " Department' of-' Jfttstlce.,*''-"(.;>"! -T*-' " ^ -^\
Los Angelec, California ' Los Angeles;, C i l i f orni^ J . ' ;

-.,- ^ . , ?.! I'


July 25,

is
to Spoci*l Agtxits
hwe IdtiXi d t i l _
Federal Surtax of InwUcaUan, f *y e*a fw* 111
'no
no ***&**
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cr threat.
threat. *f
*f aay
aayktad
ktad i**e
i**e b*a
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to a*.
fetes iafomcd tfeat I do not hmm %e mke this st*te*mt ttd tb*t i t
is fem voluntarUy, find th earn s*y b* used against a i > Court
of Ian} and fartlier that I .him the ri^ii to KKUIMI or ttoray.
I ica* born at firatm, part of forow Autifc jd
or. July 29, 190*- W fatJasr, Al^USX ZK2UfOEU, n4
otter, MI-llfTA ^ g a m (ildn mam lUkgGti )
ferr4 trietr wstideae* to lferi, ^ a t h Tyrol, part of fozwr
cow ItaOy, la 1908 or 1909. Soth B^ pawt ww *ra in te
and beease CB*cholwfkiai dtleeoa Xt*r the
la
1929, sisisr t-m
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the to?m, *ad l a U r *nt t o KwtLch, StenMagr, t o the


grmduatd 3a lotr!e-l ngloriag *n& obUitted f
of S.5c. (BMter of 8ci*ao). I H B In GalUTaoTilA n c t n t l y I took;
a cegtNN^qga^teoeNi cogra aaft obtaiacd P SajCSoHot* tf 8oiawii)
froo tmpht War College, SAttl, laulAngtoft, ibi eoUro '

I M ^ f t * ^ t e s t Scion sf ^ * ,
, and In Tmwmnlmr of 1935 or Mtt*iy o f 1936
m a d t l t a a # f Soetli A f r i t * , falch ala

bcwe A eitdxen of ti letiott of Sostfe


ID South Africa froa 1930 to X534

of the Signaling
f of
t a ^ 40)4^
and m&mmx*&. to obt^its comcUoo Ath fir** of
','. i ;*
1* Soath Africa hetmm X but S * K . S * retn to
Sou** AfiMi *oa *a ^oaim, wMob X ##' W l y
t export Ufa. EICaiHK
ted * ooe-ywr ti**t ftir this w* wi

igf 1tf set sick noon after #ar s&rrlftge and tb


were apaHfi 4o cure b*r te Sm&* *fc$^ Jlt.X %MjiM
me Jjcuaiy, 1^?6, X fkcWrt to send sgndf* io Bs-*arg kla to
bar faaily to hare hr att4aded W ^T ao* <fewtrt, HH U
In tfee U a r half of 1935 I , through n ftteltent | bad,
-X W i t
o to aiV Aa ^ *0y, 1^ 2 d^
t Mp tw 1 or<l*r %t> Hat M f tt
far export boslatts or la y capacity B to giir for South Africa.
i^aalbly Aaseai, 1936, at n*iich ttae t arriTOd ia Captc-m,
A Id 1 in *>taan#biafie X
Se La iff tha ^ M

9 ^ ^
to o 1B or4#r to % at ttor n g
t* wiVt UM of

Xfcad1* *dLBd ao4 u mrk far that


m t*My i t * r . X

wort ia

aooa w I eh*me to

, '<?:..;*.<'.->*

-> 'li^'C; v /- A ' "^V,


F office of Bell Telephones & Manufacturing Go.
(Subsidiary of I.T.T. of- New York)":; -.-;

afce
Berne, **. to find owfc i ff **gr p w s i H l l t i a
J f#itt*4lsipp*tt^
y, ** I also m0mmm$ t contact S>idw csport flras lto the
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iw* 1 conl*U of nine pages, typ*ttrritta# and i t i tnte d
nset to egr vary feest 3r*eUecti<m ttud b t s ! vdUcatarlly i

(signed) B. . 2MZIN(B

(signed)
Special Ag*n*
of g
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607 C. S. CwErt aon
Foley

(signed)
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Sam^Aem

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P S B : P S

65-1819

; :
. ' . y -

BERTRAM . ZENZIBGER sentenced by Federal Judge to' eighteen


months and #1,000 fine on April 29, 1941, at Los Angeles, California,
for violation of Federal Registration Act.
Fqrm observation and questioning^ the following description
of ZENZB5GER-was obtained: . -
Same BERTRAM UOLFGANG ZEKZINGER
Address Skyline Drive , ~.
Bonnell's Subdivision .
Topanga Canyon, California'
Age 36
Born Brunn, Moravia, July 29, 1904.
Nationality Czeehoslovakian
Citizenship Union of South Africa " . ;,
by naturalitation 1936.
Height 5'll|-"
Weight 157 l b s .
S-aild Slim - erect carriage
Hair Sandy - thin on top, receding at tfisjples-
Complexion Fair - .. . " .. '
Eyes' * \ Blue-gray .. / _ ,
Features Thin lips and nosej small nostrils'.
Teeth Several front teeth pointed.
Peculiarities "Wears gold band ring on left hand
ring finger. Takes long swinging steps.
Appearance Alert
Accent German
Occupation Claims to be general merchant.
Education Graduate of University of Munich
in electro-physios (l927)i .' %
Relatives Father, AUGUST ZEKZINGER." .
Mother,

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65-1819

l CLASSIFICATION.
b
1. Immigration and Naturalization.

2. Espionage Activities -fo^rm* r Possible.

L<
"William Sebold."

;
3* Surveillance" Corroborative or Direct Evidence*. \

<4. Mcrophone Surveillance - ' (Admissibildty Questioriaple.)

5. Qaployment Record. - . , ,

6. History and Prior Activities.

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Address:

Jjx a conv.er^^tion betweea HJEINSIQH


3M SEBQLD CLAUS3H6 t6&.8ES3t$
s b i s mail drop iti South Ataerica,, ccording
vteri&l for tran
I t a l i a n Air tims fromi
drop -was i r i v d |Cari?hjl4, ,1941

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saying J ,
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