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Prelude

Before we start
What is your opinion regarding . . . .
 Need for Reservation
 Percentage Reserved
 Various Methods of Reservation
 Various Procedures of Reservations
 Policies related to Reservations
 Court Judgements regarding Quotas
 Quotas in Other Countries
Spectrum of Opinions
A. I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances), I know the
problems in implementation
B. I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances) , but I don’t
know the problems in implementation
C. I want reservations, but I don’t know the need
for reservations
D. I don’t want reservations because it affects
merit
E. I don’t want reservations because it reduces my
chance
Awareness !! This presentation is
for you !!
 I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances), I
know the problems in implementation
 I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances) , but I
don’t know the problems in
implementation
 I want reservations, but I don’t know the
need for reservations
 I don’t want reservations because it affects merit
 I don’t want reservations because it reduces my
chance
Ignorance / Tuned by Media !! Let
us learn the need for Reservations
 I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances), I know the
problems in implementation
 I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances) , but I don’t
know the problems in implementation
 I want reservations, but I don’t know the need for
reservations
 I don’t want reservations because it affects
merit
 I don’t want reservations because it reduces my
chance
Awareness !! Your opinion is respected,
but we don’t agree with you !!
 I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances), I know
the problems in implementation
 I want reservations, I know the need for
reservations (increases my chances) , but I
don’t know the problems in implementation
 I want reservations, but I don’t know the
need for reservations
 I don’t want reservations because it affects
merit
 I don’t want reservations because it
reduces my chance
If You..
 .. want reservations, know the need
for reservations (increases your
chances), know the problems in
implementation
 .. want reservations, know the need
for reservations (increases your
chances) , but you don’t know the
problems in implementation
 .. want reservations, but don’t know
the need for reservations
We will discuss the following
 How to Ensure Social Justice
 Problems in Implementing Reservations
 Need for Social Justice Watch
 What can we do
 How can we do
A request Please
 Mobiles in Silent Mode
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Mathematics & Manipulations in
Reservations & Quotas
Discussion Points
 How to Ensure Social Justice
 Problems in Implementing Reservations -
Mathematics & Manipulations in
Reservations & Quotas
 Need for Social Justice Watch
 What can we do
 How can we do
How to ensure Social Justice
 Make sure that Reservations are
implemented in a proper manner
◦ Correct Policy
◦ Correct Implementation
 Take Actions, if
◦ Incorrect Policies
 (ie) Rules are wrong
◦ Incorrect Implementation
 (ie) Rules are not followed correctly
Correct Policies
 Policies are made at the level of
Government (or by courts)
 Make sure that all departments,
universities, admission committees,
selection committees, public service
commissions are asked to follow correct
policies
Correct Implementation
 Make sure Reservations are implemented
properly
 Ensure : Correct Percentage
 Ensure : Correct Mode / Method
 Ensure : Correct Procedure
How reservation is circumvented
 By incorrect Policies
 By Incorrect Implementation
Policy Decisions - Intentional
 By All India Tests
◦ These do not have the OBC Reservation
 If CET / NEET Comes, there will be no
reservation for BC and MBC
 Creamy Layer ?
Implementation Problems
 Incorrect Percentage
 Incorrect Mode / Method
 Incorrect Procedure
Implementation Problems
 Intentional
 Accidental - Clerical Errors
Intentional Problems
 The problem is created intentionally by
the persons implementing reservations
 Those who do it know what they do
 Cannot be solved by Representation
 Need Legal or Political Remedies
Accidental Problems
 Out of Ignorance
 Out of Laziness
 Out of Stupidity
 Those who commit these errors don’t know
that they are doing a mistake
 Can be solved by Representation
 Only in rare cases (when those who are
responsible are very ignorant, very stupid or
very lazy) do we need Need Legal or
Political Remedies
So you have 6 combinations
 Intentional Incorrect Percentage
 Accidental Incorrect Percentage
 Intentional Incorrect Method / Mode
 Accidental Incorrect Method / Mode
 Intentional Incorrect Procedure
 Accidental Incorrect Procedure
So you have 6 combinations
 Intentional Incorrect Percentage
 Accidental Incorrect Percentage - Rare
 Intentional Incorrect Method
 Accidental Incorrect Method
 Intentional Incorrect Procedure
 Accidental Incorrect Procedure
So you have 6 combinations
 Intentional Incorrect Percentage – rare in
Tamil Nadu, but seen in Central
government and other states
 Accidental Incorrect Percentage – Very Rare
 Intentional Incorrect Method / Mode– Rare
 Accidental Incorrect Method / Mode – very
common
 Intentional Incorrect Procedure – common
 Accidental Incorrect Procedure – most
common
Correct Percentage
 Tamil Nadu – 69 %
 Central Government – 49.5 %
Incorrect Percentage
 Do you think that this is rare ??
 Let us see AIPG Prospectus

Intentional Incorrect Percentage
 Instead of Reserving 49.5 % for BC + SC
+ ST, this order has reserved 50.5 % for
OC !!
 Do you think both are same
This Bus is reserved for Ladies
This Bus is reserved for Ladies
 Only Woman can get in
 Males are not allowed in Buses “reserved”
for women
This Bus is NOT Reserved
This Bus is NOT Reserved
 Men can get in
 Women can also get in
So . .
 Women
◦ Can get into Reserved Bus
◦ Can get into any Bus
 Men
◦ Can get into any Bus
◦ Cannot get into Reserved Bus
This coach is reserved
This coach is NOT Reserved
Concept of Reservation
 A lady can get in any coach in a train, but
a male cannot get into ladies coach
 A physically handicapped person can sit in
any seat in a bus, but a normal person
cannot occupy the seat of the physically
handicapped person
Every Seat is reserved means !
 On the other hand, if you are going to say
that just because a bus has been
reserved for ladies, a lady cannot board
any other bus, that means
 You are in fact reserving all the other buses
for men
 This is NOT 1 bus being reserved for
females
 This is effectively all but one buses
being reserved for males
Every seat is reserved !
 On the other hand, if you are going to say
that just because a coach has been
reserved for DA, they cannot board a
general compartment, that means
 You are in fact reserving all the other
compartments for men
 This is NOT 1 compartment being reserved
for Differently Abled
 This is effectively 10 compartments
being reserved away from them
Counselling Not by Overall Rank
In AIPG
 There is 50.5 % of seats reserved for OC
 In addition to it, if there are vacant seats
in other criteria, they can still come !!!
 This is an example of INTENTIONAL
INCORRECT PERCENTAGE
 Not only that, there is another “fraud”
too – Seats are reserved only in the
central institutes (27 out of 100 seats)
and not 27 % of All seats (540 out of 2000
seats)
Incorrect Percentage 
 The problem is created intentionally by
the persons implementing reservations
 Those who do it know what they do
 Cannot be solved by Representation
 Need Legal or Political Remedies
Why No One Fights
 Lack of Awareness – Less than 5 % know
that they are being cheated
 Of this 5 % , 3 percent may get selected in
TNPG and may not mind this, once he
gets selected
 The remaining do not have the money or
time to file a case in supreme court
What is the remedy
 Social Justice Watch has to fight this
legally and Politically
 This is a need for Social Justice
Watch
 As of Now, there is a vacuum in this
regard
Correct Method
 What are the various Method of
Reservation
 Who decides the method for a particular
exam
 Advantages and disadvantages of each
Various Methods
 Percentage Method
 Rotation Roster Method
 100 point Roster Method
Who decides
 Decided by the Director or Additional
Director Level Officers (technocrats)
 Usually Government or Secretariat does
not involve in the decision (bureaucrats)
 Almost always outside the purview of
politicians (elected representatives)
 Even if the Chief Minister, Education
Minister, Education Secretary want to
implement 69 %, a foolish , stupid,
ignorant or lazy clerical staff at the
directorate level can upset the selection
by his foolishness, stupidity, ignorance or
laziness
Percentage Method
 Simple Method
 Easy to follow
 Difficult to cheat ☺
 No need for complex Tables
 Errors are Common
Percentage Method
 Take the Number of seats
 Allot seats to each category and also
open category as per the reservation
Percentage Method in Central Govt
 Total Seats 1000
 Open Competition – 505 ie 50.5 %
 OBC – 270 ie 27 %
 SC – 150 ie 15 %
 ST – 75 ie 7.5 %
Percentage Method in TN for 1000
Seats
 Total Seats : 1000
 Open Competition : 310 ie 31 %
 BC : 265 ie 26.5 %
 BCM : 35 ie 3.5 %
 MBC : 200 ie 20 %
 SC 150 ie 15 %
 SCA 30 ie 3 %
 ST 10 ie 1 %
Percentage Method - Problems
 Percentage method is not suited when
there are small number of seats
 Eg Take MBBS Admissions 2012-13
 See the Number of vacancies – 1762 as
given in
http://www.tn.gov.in/results/dme/UG_201
2_2013/MBBS_BDS/vacancy_MBBS_0507
12.pdf
Percentage Method in TN for 1762 seats
as per Policy
Percentage as Seats as per
per Policy Policy
Total 100 1762

OC 31 546
BC 26.5 467
BCM 3.5 62
MBC 20 352
SC 15 264
SCA 3 53
ST 1 18
Percentage Method
Total 1762
as given in
http://www.tn.gov.in/r
OC 546
esults/dme/UG_2012
BC 463
_2013/MBBS_BDS/vac
BCM 64
ancy_MBBS_050712.p
MBC 352
df
SC 268
SCA 51
ST 18
Percentage Method

Seats as
Allotted by
Percentage as Seats as per Selection
per Policy Policy Committee Difference
Total 100 1762 1762 0

OC 31 546 546 0
BC 26.5 467 463 -4
BCM 3.5 62 64 2
MBC 20 352 352 0
SC 15 264 268 4
SCA 3 53 51 -2
ST 1 18 18 0
Percentage Method : Problems
 4 Seats Less Allotted for BC
 4 Seats More Allotted for SC
 2 Seats Less Allotted for SCA
 2 Seats More Allotted for BCM
More Problems ??

 Under what authority has Selection Committee allotted


◦ One seat more in Kilpauk Medical College and one seat less in
Coimbatore for OC
◦ One seat more in Coimbatore and one seat less in Kilpaul for BC
◦ One seat more in Tirunelveli and one seat less in Thanjavur for MBC
◦ One seat more in Thanjavur and one seat less in Tirunelveli for SC
How to allot 83 Seats ?
Percentage Method
 There is one course – MBBS
 There are around 100 seats in each
college
 If Seats are not being uniformly
distributed for ONE course with so many
seats, imagine the confusion this method
will cause when there are less number of
seats and many courses
Percentage Method
Rotation Roster Method
 Complicated Method
 Never Fool Proof
 Seats are allotted for few categories this
year and few other categories next year
 Since no one follows the admission year
after year, there are bound to be mistakes
Rotation Roster Method
Rotation Roster Method

• PROBLEM is each and every seat is


reserved for a community
• For example, even if a candidate gets
First Rank, he or she cannot study in the
college and course of his / her choice
• This method is detrimental to every one
Rotation Roster Method
 Candidate who has scored Rank 1 in one
community or even overall Rank 1 cannot
get a seat, if it is being reserved for
another community
 There is no rules, guidelines followed for
rotation (except in one allotment done by
DGHS where they follow a guideline)
 It is purely based on luck, bad luck or
even manipulation at clerical level
100 point Roster Method
 The Best Method
 It can be 100 point, 200 point, 600 point
or even 3500 point, but the concept is
same
100 point Roster for 22.5 %
 S.No. Share of Entitlement Category for which seat should be ear-marked
 SC @ 15% ST @ 7.5 %
 1 0.15 0.075 UR-1
 2 0.3 0.15 UR-2
 3 0.45 0.225 UR-3
 4 0.6 0.3 UR-4
 5 0.75 0.375 UR-5
 6 0.9 0.45 UR-6
 7 1.05 0.525 SC-1
 8 1.2 0.6 UR-7
 9 1.35 0.675 UR-8
 10 1.5 0.75 UR-9
 11 1.65 0.825 UR-10
 12 1.8 0.9 UR-11
 13 1.95 0.975 UR-12
 14 2.1 1.05 SC-2
 15 2.25 1.125 ST-1
100 point Roster for 22.5 %
 16 2.4 1.2 UR-13
 17 2.55 1.275 UR-14
 18 2.7 1.35 UR-15
 19 2.85 1.425 UR-16
 20 3 1.5 SC-3
 21 3.15 1.575 UR-17
 22 3.3 1.65 UR-18
 23 3.45 1.725 UR-19
 24 3.6 1.8 UR-20
 25 3.75 1.875 UR-21
 26 3.9 1.95 UR-22
 27 4.05 2.025 SC-4
 28 4.2 2.1 ST-2
 29 4.35 2.175 UR-23
 30 4.5 2.25 UR-24
100 point Roster for 22.5 %
 31 4.65 2.325 UR-25  49 7.35 3.675 UR-39  67 10.05 5.025 SC-10  85 12.75 6.375 UR-67
 32 4.8 2.4 UR-26  50 7.5 3.75 UR-40  68 10.2 5.1 ST-5  86 12.9 6.45 UR-68
 33 4.95 2.475 UR-27  51 7.65 3.825 UR-41  69 10.35 5.175 UR-54  87 13.05 6.525 SC-13
 34 5.1 2.55 SC-5  52 7.8 3.9 UR-42  70 10.5 5.25 UR-55  88 13.2 6.6 UR-69
 35 5.25 2.625 UR-28  53 7.95 3.975 UR-43  71 10.65 5.325 UR-56  89 13.35 6.675 UR-70
 36 5.4 2.7 UR-29  54 8.1 4.05 SC-8  72 10.8 5.4 UR-57  90 13.5 6.75 UR-71
 37 5.55 2.775 UR-30  55 8.25 4.125 ST-4  73 10.95 5.475 UR-58  91 13.65 6.825 UR-72
 38 5.7 2.85 UR-31  56 8.4 4.2 UR-44  74 11.1 5.55 SC-11  92 13.8 6.9 UR-73
 39 5.85 2.925 UR-32  57 8.55 4.275 UR-45  75 11.25 5.625 UR-59  93 13.95 6.975 UR-74
 40 6 3 SC-6  58 8.7 4.35 UR-46  76 11.4 5.7 UR-60  94 14.1 7.05 SC-14
 41 6.15 3.075 ST-3  59 8.85 4.425 UR-47  77 11.55 5.775 UR-61  95 14.25 7.125 ST-7
 42 6.3 3.15 UR-33  60 9 4.5 SC-9  78 11.7 5.85 UR-62  96 14.4 7.2 UR-75
 43 6.45 3.225 UR-34  61 9.15 4.575 UR-48  79 11.85 5.925 UR-63  97 14.55 7.275 UR-76
 44 6.6 3.3 UR-35  62 9.3 4.65 UR-49  80 12 6 SC-12  98 14.7 7.35 UR-77
 45 6.75 3.375 UR-36  63 9.45 4.725 UR-50  81 12.15 6.075 ST-6  99 14.85 7.425 UR-78
 46 6.9 3.45 UR-37  64 9.6 4.8 UR-51  82 12.3 6.15 UR-64  100 15 7.5 SC-15
 47 7.05 3.525 SC-7  65 9.75 4.875 UR-52  83 12.45 6.225 UR-65
 48 7.2 3.6 UR-38  66 9.9 4.95 UR-53  84 12.6 6.3 UR-66
100 point Roster for 22.5 %
 101 15.15 7.575 UR-79  119 17.85 8.925 UR-94  137 20.55 10.275 UR-107
 102 15.3 7.65 UR-80  120 18 9 SC-18  138 20.7 10.35 UR-108
 103 15.45 7.725 UR-81  121 18.15 9.075 ST-9  139 20.85 10.425 UR-109
 104 15.6 7.8 UR-82  122 18.3 9.15 UR-95  140 21 10.5 SC-21
 105 15.75 7.875 UR-83  123 18.45 9.225 UR-96  141 21.15 10.575 UR-110
 106 15.9 7.95 UR-84  124 18.6 9.3 UR-97  142 21.3 10.65 UR-111
 107 16.05 8.025 SC-16  125 18.75 9.375 UR-98  143 21.45 10.725 UR-112
 108 16.2 8.1 ST-8  126 18.9 9.45 UR-99  144 21.6 10.8 UR-113
 109 16.35 8.175 UR-85  127 19.05 9.525 SC-19  145 21.75 10.875 UR-114
 110 16.5 8.25 UR-86  128 19.2 9.6 UR-100  146 21.9 10.95 UR-115
 111 16.65 8.325 UR-87  129 19.35 9.675 UR-101  147 22.05 11.025 SC-22
 112 16.8 8.4 UR-88  130 19.5 9.75 UR-102  148 22.2 11.1 ST-11
 113 16.95 8.475 UR-89  131 19.65 9.825 UR-103  149 22.35 11.175 UR-116
 114 17.1 8.55 SC-17  132 19.8 9.9 UR-104  150 22.5 11.25 UR-117
 115 17.25 8.625 UR-90  133 19.95 9.975 UR-105
 116 17.4 8.7 UR-91  134 20.1 10.05 SC-20
 117 17.55 8.775 UR-92  135 20.25 10.125 ST-10
 118 17.7 8.85 UR-93  136 20.4 10.2 UR-106
100 point Roster for 22.5 %
 151 22.65 11.325 UR-118  169 25.35 12.675 UR-132  187 28.05 14.025 SC-28
 152 22.8 11.4 UR-119  170 25.5 12.75 UR-133  188 28.2 14.1 ST-14
 153 22.95 11.475 UR-120  171 25.65 12.825 UR-134  189 28.35 14.175 UR-147
 154 23.1 11.55 SC-23  172 25.8 12.9 UR-135  190 28.5 14.25 UR-148
 155 23.25 11.625 UR-121  173 25.95 12.975 UR-136  191 28.65 14.325 UR-149
 156 23.4 11.7 UR-122  174 26.1 13.05 SC-26  192 28.8 14.4 UR-150
 157 23.55 11.775 UR-123  175 26.25 13.125 ST-13  193 28.95 14.475 UR-151
 158 23.7 11.85 UR-124  176 26.4 13.2 UR-137  194 29.1 14.55 SC-29
 159 23.85 11.925 UR-125  177 26.55 13.275 UR-138  195 29.25 14.625 UR-152
 160 24 12 SC-24  178 26.7 13.35 UR-139  196 29.4 14.7 UR-153
 161 24.15 12.075 ST-12  179 26.85 13.425 UR-140  197 29.55 14.775 UR-154
 162 24.3 12.15 UR-126  180 27 13.5 SC-27  198 29.7 14.85 UR-155
 163 24.45 12.225 UR-127  181 27.15 13.575 UR-141  199 29.85 14.925 UR-156
 164 24.6 12.3 UR-128  182 27.3 13.65 UR-142  200 30 15 SC-30
 165 24.75 12.375 UR-129  183 27.45 13.725 UR-143  201 30.15 15.075 ST-15
 166 24.9 12.45 UR-130  184 27.6 13.8 UR-144
 167 25.05 12.525 SC-25  185 27.75 13.875 UR-145
 168 25.2 12.6 UR-131  186 27.9 13.95 UR-146
AIPG 2009 - An Example of 22.5 %
Roster
 UR-1 UR-1 BHAGYA S T MH09 RADD 02:03:07 PM CHENNAI
 UR-2 UR-2 VINIT BALIYAN T DL03 GMED 02:09:39 PM DELHI
 UR-3 UR-3 DEVI S SRUTHI T KL04 PAED 02:11:57 PM CHENNAI
 UR-4 UR-4 VIJAYKUMAR PRAGJIBHAI KOTADIYA T MH09 RADD 02:13:38 PM MUMBAI
 UR-5 UR-5 KRISHNA SARIN M S T TN03 GMED 02:15:26 PM CHENNAI
 UR-6 UR-6 KAILA ARPANA MANSUKHLAL T DL03 OBGY 02:16:57 PM MUMBAI
 SC-1 SC-1 DHANWALE SHRIKANT SHIVAJIRAO T MH04 GMED 02:17:58 PM MUMBAI
 UR-7 UR-7 SUGANYA G T DL03 RADD 02:18:55 PM CHENNAI
 UR-8 UR-8 MONIKA BAPAT T DL03 RADD 02:19:55 PM DELHI
 UR-9 UR-9 ANSHUL JAIN T UP10 RADD 02:20:48 PM DELHI
 UR-10 UR-10 R RAM MOHAN T DL03 ORTH 02:22:10 PM CHENNAI
 UR-11 UR-11 GHONIYA HARSH RAMESHKUMAR T RJ03 RADD 02:24:06 PM MUMBAI
 UR-12 UR-12 M V KARTHIK T UP10 RADD 02:25:14 PM CHENNAI
 SC-2 SC-2 AWNISH KUMAR T DL06 RADD 02:26:45 PM DELHI
 ST-1 NIRGUDE SANKET RAMESH A 02:27:58 PM MUMBAI
TN 100 point Roster Method
 PERSONNEL AND ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS (K)
DEPARTMENT
 G.O.Ms.No. 241 Dated 29.1 0.2007

 Read:
1. 1. G.O.Ms.No.85, Personnel and Administrative Reforms(R)
Department, dated 6.5.2000.
2. 2. G.O.Ms.No.105, Personnel and Administrative
Reforms(S)Department, dated 20.6.2000.
3. 3. Tamil Nadu Ordinance No. 412007.
4. 4. From the Secretary, Tamil Nadu Public Service Commission
Letter No.442URND-D2107, dated 18.10.2007.
 1. General Turn  11. General Turn
 2. Scheduled Castes  12. Scheduled Castes
 3. Most Backward Classes and  13. Most Backward Classes and
De~otifiedC ommunities Denotified Communities
 4. Backward Classes (Other than  14. Backward Class Christians
Backward Class Christians and  15. General Turn
Backward Class Muslims)
 16. Scheduled Castes
 5. General Turn
 17. Most Backward Classes and
 6. Scheduled Castes Denotified Communities
 7. Most Backward Classes and  18. Backward Classes (Other than
Denotified Communities Backward.Class Christians and
 8. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Christians and  19. General Turn
Backward Class Muslims)
 20. Backward Classes (Other than
 9. General Turn Backward Class Christians and
 10. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims)
 21. General Turn  32. Scheduled Castes
 22. Scheduled Castes  33. Most Backward Classes and
 23. Most Backward Classes and Denotified Communities
Denotified Communities  34. Backward Classes (Other than
 24. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Muslims)  35. General Turn
 25. General Turn  36. Scheduled Castes
 26. Scheduled Castes  37. Most Backward Classes and
 27. Most Backward Classes and Denotified Communities
Denotified Communities  38. Backward Classes (Other than
 28. Backward Class Muslims Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims)
 29. General Turn
 39. General Turn
 30. Backward Classes (Other than
Backward Class Christians and  40. Backward Class Christians
Backward Class Muslims)
 31. General Turn
 41. General Turn  51. General Turn
 42. Scheduled Castes  52. Scheduled Castes
 43. Most Backward Classes and  53. Most Backwarti Classes and
Denotified Communities Denotified Communities
 44. Backward Classes (Other than  54. Backward Class Muslims
Backward Class Christians and  55. General Turn
Backward Class Muslims)
 56. Scheduled Castes
 45. General Turn
 57. Most Backward Classes and
 46. Most Backward Classes and Denotified Communities
Denotified Communities
 58. Backward Classes (Other than
 47. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class ,Muslims)
Backward Class Muslims)
 59. General Turn
 48. General Turn
 60. Backward Classes (Other than
 49. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Muslims)
 50. Scheduled Tribes
 61. General Turn  71. General Turn
 62. Scheduled Castes  72. Scheduled Castes
 63. Most Backward Classes and  73. Most Backward Classes and
Denotified Communities Denotified Communities
 64. Backward Classes (Other than  74. Backward Classes (Other than
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims) Backward Class Muslims)
 65. General Turn .  75. General Turn
 66. Scheduled Castes  76. Scheduled Castes
 67. Most Backward Classes and  77. Most Backward Classes and
Denotified Communities .- Denotified Communities
 68. Backward Class Christians  78. Backward Classes (Other than
 69. General Turn Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims)
 70. Backward Classes (Other than
Backward Class Christians and  79. General Turn
Backward Class Muslims)  80. Backward Class Muslims
 81. General Turn Backward Class Muslims) Backward Class Muslims)  131. General Turn
 82. Scheduled Castes  98. General Turn  1 15. General Turn  132. Scheduled Castes
 83. Most Backward Classes and  99. Backward Classes (Other than  116. Scheduled Castes  133. Most Backward Classes and
Denotif~ed Communities Backward Class Christians and Denotified Communities
Backward Class Muslims)  117. Most Backward Classes and
 84. Backward Classes (Other than Denotified Communities  134. Backward Class Muslims
Backward Class Christians and  100. General Turn.
Backward Class Muslims)  118. Backward Classes (Other than  135. General Turn
 101. Most Backward Classes and Backward Class Christians and
 85. General Turn Denotified Communities Backward Class Muslims)  136. Scheduled Castes

 86. Scheduled Castes  102. Scheduled Castes  119. General Turn  137. Most Backward Classes and
Denotified Communities
 87. Most Backward Classes and  103. General Turn  120. Backward Class Christians
Denotified Communities  138. Backward Classes (Other than
 104. Backward Classes (Other than  121. General Turn Backward Class Christians and
 88. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Muslims)  122. Scheduled Castes
Backward Class Muslims)  139. General Turn
 105. General Turn  123. Most Backward Classes and
 89. General Turn Denotified Communities  140. Backward Classes (Other than
 106. Scheduled Castes Backward Class Christians and
 90. Backward Classes (Other than  124. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Christians and  107. Most Backward Classes and Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims) Denotified Communities Backward Class Muslims)

 91. General Turn  108. Backward Class Muslims  125. General Turn

 92. Scheduled Castes  109. General Turn  126. Scheduled Castes

 93. Most Backward Classes and  110. Backward Classes (Other than  127. Most Backward Classes and
Denotified Communities Backward Class Christians and Denotified Communities
Backward Class Muslims)
 94. Backward Class Christians  128. Backward Classes (Other than
 1 1 1. General Turn Backward Class Christians and
 95. General Turn Backward Class Muslims)
 112. Scheduled Castes
 96. Most Backward Classes and  129. General Turn
Denotified Communities  113. Most Backward Classes and
Denotified Communities  130. Backward Classes (Other than
 97. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Christians and  114. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Christians and
 141. General Turn Backward Class Christians and  176. Scheduled Castes  193. Most Backward Classes and
Backward Class Muslims) Denotified Communities
 142. Scheduled Castes  177. Most Backward Classes and
 159. General Turn Denotified Communities  194. Backward Classes (Other than
 143. Most Backward Classes and Backward Class Christians and
Denotified Communities  160. Backward Class Muslims  178. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Christians and
 144. Backward Classes (Other than  161. General Turn Backward Class Muslims)  195. General Turn
Backward Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims)  162. Scheduled Castes  179. General Turn  196. Most Backward Classes and
 163. Most Backward Classes and Denotified Communities
 145. General Turn  180. Backward Classes (Other than
Denotified Communities Backward Class Christians and  197. Backward Classes (Other than
 146. Most Backward Classes and Backward Class Muslims) Backward Class Christians and
Denotified Communities  164. Backward Classes (Other than
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Muslims)
 181. General Turn
 147. Backward Class Christians Backward Class Muslims)  198. General Turn
 182. Scheduled Castes
 148. General Turn  165. General Turn  199. Backward Classes (Other than
 183. Most Backward Classes and Backward Class Christians and
 149. Backward Classes (Other than  166. Scheduled Castes Denotified Communities
Backward Class Christians and Backward Class Muslims)
Backward Class Muslims)  167. Most Backward Classes and  184. Backward Classes (Other than
Denotified Communities  200. General Turn.
Backward Class Christians and
 150. Scheduled Tribes Backward Class Muslims)
 168. Backward Classes (Other than
 1.51. General Turn Backward Class Christians and  185. General Turn
Backward Class Muslims)
 152. Scheduled Castes  186. Scheduled Castes
 169. General Turn
 153. Most Backward Classes and  187. Most Backward Classes and
Denotified Commun~ties  170. Backward Classes (Other than Denotified Communities
Backward Class Christians and
 154. Backward Classes (Other than Backward Class Muslims)  188. Backward Class Muslims
Backward.Class Christians and
Backward Class Muslims)  17 1 . General Turn  189. General Turn
 155. General Turn  172. Scheduled Castes  190. Backward Classes (Other than
Backward ClassChristians and
 156. Scheduled Castes  173. Most Backward Classes and Backward Class Muslims)
Denotified Communities
 157. Most Backward Classes and  191. General Turn
Denotified Communities  174. Backward Class Christians
 192. Scheduled Castes
 158. Backward Classes (Other than  175. General Turn
26th Rotation 6th Turn
Next Recruitment
 Will start with 7th turn of 26th Rotation
100 point Roster Method
100 point Roster Method
Advantages
 Seats are not “locked”
 SC Rank 18 candidate can select his seat
before General Rank 32, but not before
General Rank 30
 Equality is maintained at all times
In 100 Point Roster
 This equates General Rank 155 with SC
Rank 30 with ST Rank 15 (in Central
Govt)
 Or General Rank 31 with SC Rank 18
with MBC Rank 20 (in TN)
Other Advantages
 Effective Reservation in Promotions
Incorrect Procedure
 MBBS Allotment
Clerical Error !
 The Clerk who prepared the prospectus
in 2009 just copied what it was in 2008
 The Clerk who prepared the prospectus
in 2010 just copied what it was in 2009
 The Clerk who prepared the prospectus
in 2011 just copied what it was in 2010
 The Clerk who prepared the prospectus
in 2012 just copied what it was in 2011
Why Errors Continue ?
 Does the Muslim candidate who applies
2012 knows that there were 3.5 seats
marked for his community by the
government, but he did not get it because
of a clerical error ? – No
 Does the Arundhathiar candidate who
applies in 2012 knows that there were 3
seats marked for his community by the
government, but he did not get it because
of a clerical error ? – No
Why he does not know ?
 Because he did not follow the admission
prospectus from 2008
Why he did not follow ?
 In 2012,You don’t know what course you
are going to apply in 2017
 How will you follow
What is the remedy
 Social Justice Watch has to follow these
allotments
 At present no one follows this
 There exists an vacuum in this area, which
Social Justice Watch should fill
Incorrect Procedure
 By following roster, but calling for 6 seats
or 13 seats per batch – in central
government institutions
Case Studies
 UPSC
 AIPG
 BE / B Tech in TN
 MBBS in TN
 MD / MS in TN
 TNPSC
UPSC – Civil Services
 Correct Percentage
 Wrong Method – Because the seats are
of various grades (IAS, IPS, IFS, IRS etc)
and grades (Home Cadre, Other Cadre
etc), 100 point Roster has to be followed.
But they follow percentage Method
 Wrong Procedure
AIPG
 Wrong Percentage
◦ OBC Reservation is not followed
◦ 50.5 % Seats are reserved for Forward
Community
 Correct Method
 Correct Procedure
BE / B Tech Admissions in TN
 Correct Percentage
 Percentage Method – Though not correct,
acceptable
 Correct Procedure (automated)
MBBS Admissions in Tamil Nadu
 Correct Percentage
 Percentage Method – Though not correct,
acceptable
 Incorrect Procedure
◦ Manual
◦ Clerical Errors which are not corrected
MD / MS Admission in Tamil Nadu
 Correct Percentage
 Wrong Method
◦ Follows a new method which is totally against
Government Rules
◦ It is neither percentage, nor rotation roster
 Wrong Procedure

TNPSC
 Correct Percentage
 Correct Method / Mode
 Correct Procedure

 To my knowledge, this is the ONLY


organisation in whole of India, following
Correct Percentage, Correct Method and
Correct Procedure
 This is about Preparation of Merit List.
Question Paper Leaks are different !!
Need for Social Justice Watch
 Most persons use reservations only few
times
◦ After 12th for getting admissions
◦ For getting Scholarships or fees exemptions
◦ For getting Post Graduation,
◦ For getting Job
 So they are not aware of the rules
 They are not aware of the norms /
procedures
At least in Tamil Nadu
 Most errors in implementation of
reservation happens at clerical stage
 The government (both politicians as well
as most of bureaucrats) are supportive of
reservations
 So, representation to the concerned
authorities will ensure that most
problems are solved
Take Corrective Actions
◦ In the following order
 Represent to the authorities
 RTI to collect Data
 Legal Notices
 Represent to the Government
 File Case in Court
 Bring the issue to public Knowledge
Flow Chart !
 If representation does not solve, we need
to file RTI asking for data for the past 5
years. In Most cases, this will leads to
internal rearrangements and the process
will be on track at least the next year.
 If it still does not work, represent to
government
 If it still does not work, go to court
 If case drags on, get support from people
Few More Questions
Before we wind up

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