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Original response letter from the Department of the Treasury (IRS) to John Andrews dated July 31,
1991. This was in response to John Andrew's (FOIA) appeal/attempt to verify the authenticity of Bob
Lazar's W-2 Wage earning statement for 1989. According to Bob Lazar's W-2 form for 1989, he
earned a grand total of $958.11 working for the "United States Department of Naval Intelligence".
Sure seems like "token payment" for working on the "most significant project in human history". As
the letter explains, an exhaustive search was conducted for an Employer Identification Number (EIN)
46-1007639 (provided by Bob Lazar) from the United States Department of Naval Intelligence
indicated that there was no taxpayer, agency or employer with this EIN. They could not confirm if
this EIN was used during a previous date.
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Letter from John Andrews to R. A. Jones (Captain, JAGC, U.S. Navy) dated July 4, 1991. Folks, in the
interest of preserving an important part of our National History, I'm dropping these babies "as is"
with absolutely no alterations. As mentioned before, its funny that the IRS, U.S. Navy and Dr. Edward
Teller all "dropped the ball" regarding Bob Lazar. All three could have simply stated that "Lazar is
bogus", but never did. There does appear to be a "pattern of denial" here. Michael Schratt
PAGE 5:
Letter from Philip J. Klass to John Andrews dated May 11, 1992. A bit of a harsh ending.
PAGES 6-7:
Original request to visit Papoose Lake by John Andrews dated December 4, 1989. A bold and
respectable attempt by John which unfortunately never happened. Note the mention of Project
"Snowbird". SS# deleted for privacy.
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Letter from John Andrews to Gregory D. Kreis, Major, USAF dated February 19, 1990. John was
denied access to Papoose Lake, but confimed in this letter that there are at least three Area S-4's
within the Nellis Complex. Strike one up for Bob (just keeping it real). Michael Schratt
PAGES 9-10:
Original letter from George Knapp to John Andrews dated July 13, 1992. Its clear that from the very
beginning, Bob Lazar's educational background and crudentials were difficult to verify.
PAGE 11:
Original letter from Robert S. Lazar to Sherry Spencer (Los Alamos National Labs) - no date (address,
phone number and SS# removed for privacy). In this letter, Bob Lazar states that he was a physicist
at the Los Alamos National Lab, Meson facility in 1982.
PAGE 12:
Ltter from John Andrews to Gerald R. Ryan dated August 4, 1991. Note the mention of classified
EINs. Bob Lazar's phone number and SS# removed for privacy.
PAGE 13:
Letter from John Andrews to Lockheed Skunk Works director Ben R. Rich dated Januart 11,
1990.
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
INTERNAL REVEN U E S E RVIC E
WA S HIN G T O N , O .C. 2022 4
OFFI CE OF
CH I EF COU N SEL
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GERALD R. RYAN
Special Assistant to the
Assistant Chief Counsel
(Disclosure Litigation)
R. A. Jones
Captain, JAGC, U.S. Navy
Executive Assistant
Headquarters, Naval Investigative Service Command
Washington, DC 20388-5000
4 July 1991
I'd like to help with the UFO problem . I'm here to help. I'm
ready anytime Navy is. NRL never responded to my letter of 25
February 1990. But that is the pattern isn't it?
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John Andrews
8180 Santa Andrews
San Diego, CA 92126-1243
Philip J. Klass 404 "N" St. South west Washingt on D.C. 20024
May 11, 1992
Dear John Andr ews :
Yesterday, whi le goi ng t hr ough one of half a dozen 2-ft . high
p iles o f "answer- when t ime permits" correspondence on t he f l oor of
my s t udy/office , I came across yours of Nov. 3, 1991 , inre Bob
La z ar and Dr. Edward Teller. I was int rigued by the dat ed specifics
which Lazar (I assume) provi ded you. I f true, then Lazar is a
me ticul ous record - keeper who keeps a d i a r y/log. On this basis,
surely he keeps his monthly s alary s tubs and W-2 statements for tax
purposes (at leas t for 7 years) .
Question #1 : Have you asked Lazar to provide you wit h phot ocopies
of his sal ary stubs/W- 2 s t a t ements f or his (alleged) empl oyment
wit h EG&G? (This not only could prove he was employed by EG&G but
would provide an indication o f whether he was empl oyed a s a top -
l evel sci entist , at say $50- 60K/year , or as a technician at say
$30K.)
So , according to Lazar , on Oct. 25 , he was int e r viewed by EG&G
a nd t old he is "over- qual i fied and would l ikely be bored" wi th
positions then availabl e . Onl y four days l a t e r -- "On 29 November
1988, Dr . Teller called Bob Lazar and gave him a name to call. "
Quest ion #2 : Does t his mean t hat Dr. Tel ler not onl y is PSYCHI C,
and read Bob's thoughts from afar, but that Telle r had nothing more
impo rt ant t o do than to cal l EG&G to get Lazar a j ob?
Re f erence your inabil ity to get a flat -out denia l f rom
Te l l e r , I emphasize t hat I am NOT (repeat NOT)(Repeat again NOT )
sugges ting t hat President George Bush i s , or ever was , a KGB agent,
I propose you conduct t he fol l owing experiment which may he l p
fu r t her your education on obtai ning off icial denials from highly
p l aced, busy d i gnit aries to kookie a llegati ons.
Write a l etter t o t he White House posing one simpl e quest ion
t ha t can be answered wit h a bri ef "yes" or "no" : " I s it t r ue t hat
when President Bush headed t he CI A he was really a secret KGB
mo l e?" Under NO conditi on are you to mention my name or that I
s uggested the e xperiment to you. Simply pose the questi on and s ee
if you can get an o f ficial s tateme nt wh i ch says that thi s wil d ,
prepos teriou s a l legation is false.
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Col. Thomas M. Messett, USAF
Commander, 554th Rango Group CTACl
Bldg 200
Nellis AFB, NV 891 15-5000
4 December 1989
- more, please -
Col . Thomas M. Messett -2- 4 December 1989
Eguipment to bring :
19 February 1990
I have your ' s of 7 February 1990. And I thank you for your
prompt reply . At least that was a break with tradition in USAF
handling of my request to visit Papoose Lake and the adjacent
area S4.
Major, perhaps one day we' 1 1 meet. I've been on Nellis several
times on research and photography trips.
Oh, can you tell me how many times within the past 5 years
Russians have visited Nellis AFB and have taken a side trip to
Area 51/Groom Lake? I know it has happened. 1 just want to be
certain we have matching score cards .
Sincerely,
Jo h n Andrews
John Andrews
Te1tstor Corp.
San Diego , CA . 92121
Dear John,
It 's been awhile , but I wanted to let you know that I am
still alive and kicking , and that I am still pursuing
the story of Bob Lazar, although I haven't had a great
deal of luck lately . As you probably know , Bob has
finally secured a tidbit of information from Los Alamos,
a "pin" number indicating that he did work at the lab .
The other records from his employment have not been
found --surprise surprise .
I 'd like to know where you stand on his story these
days . Has your company ruled out any business
arrangements with Lazar because you've been unable to
verify his s tory? And whatever became of your pursuit of
his records? The reason I'm asking is that I am
preparing a paper , to be delivered at a gathering of UFO
researchers in mid-September . I ' ve never done this
before, But Lazar has taken so many hits from people who
haven ' t ever bothered to do any actual research that I
felt it was necessary to set a few things straight . This
will be the first time I have organized all of the
volumes of material I have acquired about him in the
nearly-three years since my first documentary .
If you hjave the time to jot down some of your thoughts
on the Lazar case---what difficulties you ' ve encountered
in trying to verify his background, etc . --! would
greatly appreciate it and will be sure to give you full
credit for your labors . I 'd like to be able to tell the
UFO folks that I ' m not the only one who has run into
s ignificant roadbloacks on this story .
601 $. Rancho. Suite C-26 • Las l,llgas. NV89106 • (702) 383-3348 • FAX: 383-9566
I am currently pursuing s ome very e xciting leads which
could shed considerable light on the whole flying saucer
story (if they work out, that is) and I 'm hoping to
produce a series of UFO documentaries in the near
future . Much of the footage and interviews have already
been shot . It would be great to have your version of
this story on videotape as part of these projects. If
you "re interested , or if you plan to be in this area at
anytime in the future, please let me know.
I 'm looking for any suggestions , leads, or
corroborating information concerning Lazar 's story t ha t
anyone can t hin k of , so please don ' t be shy in making
suggestions if you have them . And thanks (again) for
your help .
Regards.
Go,a,,--c:;_
George Knapp
Sherry Spencer
Mail Stop P-280
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Los Alamos, New Mexico
Roberts. Lazar
Mr. Gera l d R. Ryan
Special Assistant to the Asst . Ch i ef Counsel
<Disc l osure Lit ig a t ion>
Depa r tmen t of the Treasury
Jn t ernal Re v enue Se r vice
Washington , DC 20224
4 August 1991
Dear Mr . Rya n :
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John J . Andrews
8180 Santa Arminta
San Diego , CA 92126 - 1243
11 January 1990
Dear Ben:
This may be the most important letter I've ever written to you.
I do not know whether you are aware of all this. You are now.
The security people have begun to cleanse Bob ' s work records,
his school records and even his birth records have disappeared.
It was the very · purging of those records which caused Bob to go
public. He was being made a non-person. He had already been
threatened. His options were narrowing.
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By what right has the government of the United States taken upon
itself to restrict knowledge of what may be the most significant
piece of history the world has ever seen? Why can't you gain
access to Element 115? It is in the craft - in the gravity
amplifiers. Wou l dn't you like to be able to make one of your
long-range aircraft literally weightless? What are the savings
in fuel and power that exist with knowledge already in our
grasp?
The local media in Las Vegas did a wonderful job with this
story. Our national media put the story "on the spike." So
what's new? Guess who has actively pursued and developed the
story? Nippon Television of Japan!! They bought the rights
from the local CBS affiliate when nationa l CBS did not!
ely,
John Andrews