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James Grein: 'I cried, worse than I've ever cried before'

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NEW YORK (ChurchMilitant.com (http://ChurchMilitant.com)) - (caution: graphic content) James


Grein, the victim on whom Abp. Theodore McCarrick preyed for 18 years, gave his sworn
testimony of abuse in the archdiocese of New York Thursday.

In emotional testimony that lasted just under 45 minutes, Grein met with Fr. Richard L. Welch,
judicial vicar for the archdiocese, at the chancery o ce on 1011 First Avenue Thursday
morning. Although Grein's attorney was present as well as two canon lawyers in Albany
representing McCarrick, no one was allowed to speak but Grein and Welch, who had been
assigned directly by the Holy See to take down the testimony. An unnamed priest was also
present at the meeting to ensure the session was conducted fairly and properly.

"He was there to listen, and not to twist and turn anything," Grein told Church Militant,
speaking of Welch. "He was there to gather information for the Holy See. Period."

During the session, Welch told Grein he'd been following him ever since he went public with his
testimony in The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/nyregion/mccarrick-
cardinal-sexual-abuse.html), reading about him and watching him at the Silence Stops Now
(https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/james-2) rally and in other interviews. He
told Grein he believed him.


I cried, worse than I've ever cried before.
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"When he told me at the very, very beginning that he believes me, I cried, worse than I've ever
cried before," Grein said.
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Although Welch has conducted multiple sessions with abuse victims, this was the rst time he
had ever been appointed by the Holy See to do so, signaling the magnitude of the case. He
made clear that Grein's testimony would go directly to Pope Francis, who would then make a
nal decision regarding McCarrick.

Grein began the private session by detailing abuse he su ered at McCarrick's hands starting at
age 11 in Teaneck, New Jersey. "I went to that place and that time, and I exploded through my
testimony," Grein said.

According to Grein, his attorney, Pat Noaker, told him afterward, "Your voice changed when
you were speaking about that. It was obvious that you were not in the room anymore, that you
were in New Jersey as a kid."

 
Grein went on to detail more graphically abuse he su ered later in Hillsboro, California, where
McCarrick took him on a car ride to the beach, and then masturbated him in the front seat,
leading to Grein experiencing climax and making a mess in the car.

"I didn't know what was going on in my life," Grein told Church Militant. "I was going through
puberty; I didn't know what it was."

"When I returned back home, there was semen all over the car," he said. "When I got home, I
tried to tell my father that this guy was abusing me — and just as I was about to say it,
McCarrick stepped in front of me and said to my father, 'I bought this idiot a friggin'(/donate)
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he opened it and he must've dropped it in my car, and he destroyed my car.'"

"My father looked at me and said, 'You go to your room and you try to remember why you did
that,'" Grein said. "My mother spent hours trying to clean his f***ing car," he added angrily,
before beginning to cry over the phone.

At the end of Grein's testimony in New York, Welch asked the attorneys present whether they
had any questions. Each of McCarrick's lawyers simply responded, "I have no more questions."

Welch said he'd be leaving to Rome shortly and taking Grein's sworn a davit directly to Pope
Francis.

"If Francis decides that McCarrick is not guilty, the whole world is going to blow up," Grein said.
"If Francis decides that McCarrick is guilty, the whole world is going to blow up."

"I can't wait for the day I can return to Jesus Christ's Church, because it's very important for me
to be a Catholic," he said. "Not the Church we have today; Jesus' Church."

Although Grein was raised Catholic, he left the Church after his abuse, struggling with
alcoholism and drug use for a number of years. It wasn't until the early 1990s that he was able
to get sober and start praying again. Today, Grein considers himself a Christian and prays
regularly, but is yet to return to the practice of the Catholic faith.


I can't wait for the day I can return to
Jesus Christ's Church.
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"Today's our day," Grein told Church Militant, speaking of his joy at being able to give his full
testimony about his abuse and the impact he hopes it will have for the Church and for abuse
victims everywhere. "This is the Christmas of all Christmases."

Grein asked Church Militant to publish the following note to clergy everywhere: 

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I am trying to save Jesus' Church from the modernists who believe that the
institution is more important than parishioners, Jesus and His holy teaching. The
modernists worship idols: money and power. I want to know who you are.

Dear Clergy of the Church:

I am here today to ask you some important questions. Your attention to these


questions will be the deciding factor for my return to Jesus' Holy Catholic Church
and my strong faith. If your answers are not clear, then you are fogging my faith
and the faith of millions. We are concerned for the future of Jesus' Church.

Questions:

If James Grein was your family member, would you stay silent for the institution
or would you help him or come to his rescue?

When was the last time you spoke of Jesus' Church and His teachings in a homily?
What did you say?

Are you a member of Jesus' Church or a member of the New World Order?

Do you have a conscience? Please explain your views.

Are you obedient to your bishop, cardinal, the Holy See, or any other human
being when they tell you to act contrary to God's law — or are you obedient to
Jesus Christ?

How do you demonstrate this in your daily routine?

How do you worship Jesus Christ every day?

These are true questions. How will you respond to me?

Grein was molested by McCarrick for nearly 20 years, starting at age 11, only going public with
his abuse in July, after McCarrick's suspension was announced June 20 based on a decades-old
allegation of sex abuse against an altar boy in New York. 

"I got down on my knees and I thanked God that I am not alone and it is going to be O.K.,"
Grein told The New York Times in tears. "And I can tell somebody and someone is going to
believe me." 

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At the time Grein only gave his rst name, withholding his last name in order to protect a
sibling. He made his rst-ever public appearance, where he also gave his last name, at the
Silence Stops Now (https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/james-2) rally in Baltimore on
Nov. 13, giving a short, powerful speech to a standing ovation.

Grein later revealed in an interview with Taylor Marshall that McCarrick had connections to the
"St. Gallen Ma a (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvYs6fo-HiE)," which helped manipulate
the conclave and elect Pope Francis.

McCarrick currently lives in a Franciscan friary in Salina, Kansas


(https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/mccarrick-moving-to-kansas), a move that
provoked anger against Bp. Gerald Vincke, who failed to inform parents at a neighboring
elementary school that an accused sexual predator is living next door. Although Pope Francis
has removed McCarrick from the College of Cardinals, he has not yet been defrocked.

Testimony given by former papal nuncio Abp. Carlo Maria Viganò


(https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/archbishop-viganos-testimony) reveals that
Pope Francis not only knew about McCarrick's serial homosexual predation, he promoted
McCarrick to the position of trusted advisor and "kingmaker" in naming bishops. Cardinals
Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C., Blase Cupich of Chicago, Illinois and Joseph Tobin of
Newark, New Jersey are some of the alleged bene ciaries of McCarrick and his advice to the
pope.

Viganò accused a powerful "homosexual current" in the Church of being responsible for
protecting and promoting McCarrick and his cronies.

"These homosexual networks, which are now widespread in many dioceses, seminaries,
religious orders, etc., act under the concealment of secrecy and lies with the power of octopus
tentacles, and strangle innocent victims and priestly vocations, and are strangling the entire
Church," Viganò wrote.

Francis has yet to answer any of Viganò's charges, only responding by saying he would "not say
a word" about it and allow the public to make up its own mind. The pope's critics have noted
that in spite of his claim of silence, Pope Francis has been vocal about his accusers during his
morning homilies at Casa Santa Marta, where he likened whistleblower Viganò to the "Great
Accuser" Satan, and denounced his critics as facilitating the devil's work.

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saint michael • 6 hours ago


do you have fears of your own (children) who are now altar boys
and what really goes on????????? especially when the priest
refuses the communion plate to be used by the altar boy. look to
Father Jerabek's Blog for hope and answers in this world of priests
who have totally lost the faith due to evil seminaries. what would
you all say to your priest if he denied your son to use the girm
recommended communion plate??? proof that the communion
plate is NOT an option:

Instruction “Redemptionis Sacramentum” (2004)

Heading: “The Distribution of Holy Communion“

93. The Communion-plate for the Communion of the faithful should


be retained, so as to avoid the danger of the sacred host or some
fragment of it falling. [And the footnote references the above
number of the GIRM.] General Instruction of the Roman Missal
(GIRM)

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Marie • 7 hours ago


The networks are also influential in the tribunals that decide
marriage nullity cases. A ten-thousand percent increase in
marriages being declared null parallels the rest of the corruption in
the church. At least ninety percent of those marriages are valid,
and those families need to be put back together.

Next Christmas could be the blessed one for the children who have
Mom and Dad back together, focusing on the CHILDREN'S
happiness, not their own selfish desires. Paralleling, as I said, the
selfish desires of the sodomites like McCarrick.
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Dismayed > Marie • an hour ago


How can you possibly know that 90% of those marriages
are valid?
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Marie > Dismayed • 3 minutes ago


My figure comes from the percentage of cases that
were overturned by the Sacred Roman Rota.
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AcceptingReality • 9 hours ago


Hopefully justice will unfold for Mr. Grein and he will experience
profound healing and God's love. This is quite a wonderful
courageous thing he is doing for Holy Mother Church.
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James • 10 hours ago


Nothing will stop the subterfuge and the bold lying until everyone is
brought to account. NY Archdiocese was just caught lying about Fr.
Timone to John Paul University in California.
Where does all this lying come from. It is nothing less than
pathological. Once caught twice taught. Are these people morons?
Lying is simply another form of abuse. Lying about sex. Lying about
their "theological" views. Lying about their assent to the perennial
Magisterium of the Church.
Liars.
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Debby Rust > James • 6 hours ago


"He who lies has the devil for his father"....sound wisdom
from the good Sisters who taught me. (/donate)
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James > Debby Rust • 2 hours ago


I don't like calling anyone a liar, but the behavior on
exhibition appears to be compulsive and have no
limits. It is really quite astounding. There are
sensitive issues for people, dire consequences.
Prudence is always required, but diplomacy,
avoidance, mental reservation have been replaced
by bold lying. It appears to have become de rigueur.
It bespeaks a deep imbalance in the clergy class and
stems from fear. Love casts out fear and authentic
love is always bonded with authentic faith.
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Debby Rust > James • 2 hours ago


I don't like calling anyone a liar unless they
are one:).

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Gee Ling > Debby Rust • 4 hours ago


See, that's really not good advice or wisdom. More
akin to fear mongering. I knew a kid who was a
rotten sociopath even in grade school. His father
was a much loved doctor at a local hospital, highly
respected for his skills especially considering his
disability which limited him to a wheel chair. I spent
time with the good man and even then worried at the
affect his kid was having on him.
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Debby Rust > Gee Ling • 4 hours ago


Sorry Gee Ling. I really meant to encourage
you. Disclaimer time!

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Gee Ling > Debby Rust • 3 hours ago


No offense taken, Debbie. I am too used to
literalism. My wife told me the quote was
allegorical.
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I thank you very much for forgiving me. It is


an interesting journey we undertake when we
launch out into the depth of cyber space to
comment to souls we've never met and
probably never will this side of eternity. We all
have own way of writing and sadly, I too,
have misinterpreted commentary. Please
thank your wife for her kindness:)

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Marguerite Trombino • 11 hours ago


Francis needs to be dismissed immediatly...Jesus save "YOUR"
church. AMEN!!!
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horseradish • a day ago


It’s Francis who is the “Great Accuser”. He needs to go. He’s
disgusting.
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emmettcoyne > horseradish • 19 hours ago


Sad!
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janofdet • a day ago


AP has an online article about James' testimony Not saying this in
any way to endorse AP. Just want readers to know there was an
article written and it is quite chilling.
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horseradish > janofdet • a day ago


This testimony is quite chilling. McCarrick should be in
prison. Cupich, Tobin and Huerl work for Satan
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Dinsdale • a day ago


The secular world has no idea what they have unleashed by
normalizing homosexuality. If this is what they do in secret, imagine
what will happen now they are protected by law?
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emmettcoyne > Dinsdale • 19 hours ago


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heterosexuality has been in the driver's seat and crashed.
give homosexuality an equal chance.
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give homosexuality an equal chance.
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tonybigs > emmettcoyne • 18 hours ago


The Evil of Homosexuality is doomed from The
Beginning.
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Restore Order > emmettcoyne • 19 hours ago


Nonsense. Immorality has been in the driver's seat
and crashed. Give morality a chance.
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tonybigs • a day ago


Christ's Church is indefectibly Holy. The stewards entrusted to
shepherd Christ's Church are not. Not an excuse but Truth since
The Fall. Those who have a calling and remain faithful to their vows
need our prayers. Those who have a calling yet are unfaithful to
their vows need our prayers and their removal.
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danandsis • a day ago


Such a horror! How could any faithful Catholic imagine that such an
evil could ever happen to the One Truth Faith. To clean the sewer
will take a long time because of the lofty positions of the culprits.
You'd think they'd live in dread fear of meeting their Maker but I
doubt it. They obviously think He's non existent. They might want to
check Satan on that one.
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saint michael > danandsis • 6 hours ago


the horror is happening because the liberals are running the
churches instead of the priests.. the priests are no longer in
charge of anything. all the collections/money on sunday go
to everything except the poor/blind/widows/orphans... bigger
empty buildings are built, money poured over to the rich
bishop to build million dollar buildings.... God is stepped on
at communion time..no one uses the mandatory communion
plate anymore.. the extraordinary communion ministers are
the liberals running the church, catechism is not taught any
longer, just protestant faith formation and endless parties,
the nuns refuse to be holy nuns and teach catechism,
instead they sing with the guitar players and distribute
communion...
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standtall909 > danandsis • 11 hours ago
Indeed....Satan is no atheist.
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Debby Rust > standtall909 • 6 hours ago


True indeed....Satan also knows where the TRUTH
is to be found. He is not concerned about heretics,
schismatics, lax and immoral Catholics....he already
has them. He will concentrate on those who still hold
fast to the teachings of the Way, the Truth and the
Life.
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Sharon MacKenzie • a day ago


Is anyone out there investigating the financial corruption that went
along with McCarrick's free reign of sexual terror?
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Catherine > Sharon MacKenzie • 4 hours ago


Yes in James’s interview with Marshall he said he has a list
of names of those that received hush money from
McCarrick. The word on the street is that the FBI has seen
this list.
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Sharon MacKenzie > Catherine • 4 hours ago


Hopefully, those eyes at the FBI are not
compromised by connections to the bad guys the
way that the Department of Justice under Obama
appears to have been.
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Johann du Toit > Sharon MacKenzie • 21 hours ago


Yes. As Robert Royal said, follow the money, because a lot
of people benefited from McCarrick's patron (Farrell, Tobin,
Wuerl and Cupich being the most blatant examples).
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emmettcoyne > Johann du Toit • 19 hours ago


and you're evidence?
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Johann du Toit > emmettcoyne


• 11 hours ago
Vigano's testimony. Wuerl was always close (/donate)
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handpicked successor, and secured a


massive $25 million grant from the Papal
Foundation for a dubious project in Rome, of
which he is a chair and which was co-
founded by McCarrick. Both Tobin and Farrell
have close ties to McCarrick (Farrell was his
McCarrick's Auxiliary Bishop and even
shared a residence with him for several
years). Cupich had zero recognition and was
widely derided as an airport bishop among
the American Hierarchy until his sudden rise
to power under Francis's Papacy, widely
attributed to McCarrick's influence.
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Sharon MacKenzie > Johann du Toit


• 4 hours ago
Thank you, Johann du Toit! These facts
reveal connections that need further
exposure. i admire how you have pieced
disparate bits into a more cohesive picture for
us.
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gaeliclass • a day ago


James - thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Do you realize how many souls you are helping to speak up.... do
you realize too that this is only the start of cleaning up the filth of
the Evil One who entered our beautiful Catholic Church -- through
these very sick men... - McCarrick being one but there are many
others.
God only knows how much you have suffered these many years --
but we the Faithful- want you to know - that we with magnificent
Catholic leaders like Michael V. /CM, LSN, Lepanto Institute, Dr.
Taylor Marshall et al, OnePeterFive... and many others are with
you.
Yes we believe you, because we know it is true. We also know
there are so many still hiding but one by one we can assure you
they will be exposed.

Wearing a collar, and dearing to even lift the Most Precious Body
and Blood of Our Lord... - a double crime against them and their
l d i t li t t C f i ' d i t d i i t th
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emmettcoyne > gaeliclass • 19 hours ago


we're doomed; humanity is inherently defective and
irreparable.
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Gee Ling > emmettcoyne • 5 hours ago


I think you should leave this website and stop
commenting. You seem to be here only to irritate and
condemn people. You don't seem to get these
people are trying to right the ship. I too, hope for a
cleaner, leaner Church with a greater capacity to do
good on Earth.

And your sniping one liners arent't exactly making


you the poster boy for a saner, more peaceful world.
And you are falling into the stereotype of the whiny,
disaffected, immature gay person and doing a great
dis-service to that part of our population.
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Gee Ling > Gee Ling • 5 hours ago


Can I get an "Amen"?! LOL :)
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tonybigs > emmettcoyne • 18 hours ago


Then you have embraced Despair. Embrace Hope
and know otherwise.
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Gee Ling > tonybigs • 5 hours ago


So true. I am baffled as to why people limit
themselves to so few choices. It's almost
hackneyed to say that peace starts with the
Man in the Mirror. Or rather the "person" in
the mirror :)

When we choose peace moment by moment,


our love radiates to those around us and
eventually the world. It's really not
complicated.
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BYZANTINECATHOLIC > gaeliclass • a day ago


AMEN.
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Baseballmomof8 • a day ago


May the cleansing begin. From the top down.
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standtall909 > Baseballmomof8 • 11 hours ago


I think it already has. But this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Hang on! It's going to be a very rough ride!
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horseradish > Baseballmomof8 • a day ago


Francis, first and foremost. He’s absolutely evil to the core
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