Ukedchat Archive 21 October 2010

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#ukedchat tonight's topic 'How to get 'behind the times' schools

ianaddison 20:00
ahead...and FAST!'
ianaddison 20:00 Ok...you ready? here goes...#ukedchat
It's 8pm - Join @ianaddison and others NOW discussing "How to get
ukedchat 20:01 'behind the times' schools, ahead...and FAST! " Remember the
#ukedchat tag
MissSMitch 20:01 what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:02 @ianaddison thanks! #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:02 #ukedchat Need to find positive wizards to lead the changes
How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and how can we
deerwood 20:02
demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat
I'm #ukedchat ting for the next hour. "How to get 'behind the times'
dughall 20:02
schools, ahead...and FAST! "
#ukedchat THe key is to show them what 'good' looks like using their
TheHeadsOffice 20:02
staff & pupils
RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:02
<<< are we talking 'not quite as techy as us lot'?
RT @dughall: I'm #ukedchat ting for the next hour. "How to get
janwebb21 20:03
'behind the times' schools, ahead...and FAST! "
key thing is what do we mean? what if a school is outstanding, but

ianaddison 20:03
not doing anything new/exciting. Is that good or bad? #ukedchat
RT @deerwood: How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and
janwebb21 20:03
how can we demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice even if you show them many are still very reluctant
squiggle7 20:03
to change the way they've always done things #ukedchat
#ukedchat is real and meaningful change a quick thing? Surely it's an

DrAshCasey 20:03
evolution rather than a birth?
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#ukedchat Behing the times does not only mean techy believe me!
When you have dinosaurs on the staff you sch is BTT!
#ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up to speed. It could

jimbo9848 20:04
be called BACTA or something similar.
chrismayoh 20:04 Already 4 mins behind. No chance of catching up now! #ukedchat
visited a school this week where the head had worked there since she
missbrownsword 20:04 was TA & only place she'd ever worked, didn't seem good to me
#ukedchat
RT @squiggle7: even if you show them many are still very reluctant
ianaddison 20:04
to change the way they've always done things #ukedchat
#ukedchat the Demolition Govt may well feel the 'behind the times
didactylos 20:04
schools' are in fact not a problem. Gove doesn't like progressive ideas
#ukedchat I suspect if they are BTT their results are not going to be at
JfB57 20:04
the top@deerwood
dughall 20:04 @ianaddison So, does techy = good? #ukedchat
#ukedchat What we really need to know is why are they less techy -
AdiNotNow 20:04
money staff infrastructure?
@squiggle7 #ukedchat Hence the need for positive wizards plus the
JfB57 20:05
children. Once they have the idea they can lead reluctant staff!
#ukedchat behind the times to me is not paying any attention to all

didactylos 20:05
the learning theory we have got that we did not have 20 years ago
@Laura_987 no she was described by someone I know who works

missbrownsword 20:05
there as 'not very forward thinking' #ukedchat
@didactylos many schools may also feel the same way #ukedchat can
deerwood 20:05
we convince them otherwise?
There is a balance to be struck between not moving with the times
cleverfiend 20:05 and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes along!
#ukedchat
are schools 'behind the times'? in many ways schools are leading the
john_at_muuua 20:05
times in tolerance and cultural awareness #ukedchat
@JfB57 but many schools don't have the positive wizards to lead.
squiggle7 20:06
#ukedchat
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dughall 20:06 @janwebb21 You got it Jan :-) #ukedchat
Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select an appropriate set

chrismayoh 20:06
of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech #ukedchat
@didactylos but Roger, there are people who believe that many of
deerwood 20:06
our learning theories are incorrect #ukedchat
perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god called

innerquest 20:06
technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat
if it's merely tech, then the answer is never to be static. we need tech
john_at_muuua 20:06
that upgrades with us, #ukedchat
Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the times -

ICanTeach_uk 20:06
however those 'not' on twitter are not necessarily behind the times
dughall 20:06 @jimbo9848 BACTA LOL :-) #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the

chrisrat 20:06
times? #ukedchat <<< are we talking 'not quite as techy as us lot'?
TheHeadsOffice 20:06 @ianaddison #ukedchat I don't think you can be oustanding & BTT
@dughall I'm sure you're playing devil's advocate there!! not

janwebb21 20:06 necessarily - needs to move learning on! not tech for tech's sake
#ukedchat
@ianaddison #ukedchat bad if we place our values on exam results
DrAshCasey 20:06 and not learning. need to move learning forwards not keep the
equilibrium
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat behind the times to me is not paying any
TheHeadsOffice 20:07 attention to all the learning theory we have got that we did not have
20 years ago
RT @cleverfiend: There is a balance to be struck between not moving
edReformer 20:07 with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
@chrismayoh but being able to select the tools is one thing, what if a
deerwood 20:07
school/teacher does not possess those tools? #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice outstanding is all about sats levels, we got great

ianaddison 20:07
results, we're outstanding #ukedchat
RT @ICanTeach_uk: Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly
SkoorBttaM 20:07 ahead of the times - however those 'not' on twitter are not
necessarily behind the times
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chrismayoh 20:07 with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:07 with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
Lol > > RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring
chrismayoh 20:07
them up to speed. It could be called BACTA or something similar.
@innerquest I agree tech should enhance good practice not replace it

MissSMitch 20:07
#ukedchat
#ukedchat I think to become more techy, a staff need inspired

AdiNotNow 20:07
leadership. Show them the value of tech and get them onboard.
just having tech does not keep us ahead. having partners that keep us
john_at_muuua 20:07
ahead is what matters #ukedchat
Some staff so used to seeing things go full circle, initiative after

SkoorBttaM 20:07
initiative, they think 'going techy' is just the same #ukedchat
#ukedchat you can be very techy and still behind the times, depends
didactylos 20:07
how you measure things
RT @SusanElkinJourn: @cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round &
duckinwales 20:08 round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three
times - it's said.
RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god
TheHeadsOffice 20:08 called technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat >Or
pause
deerwood 20:08 @squiggle7 @JfB57 I don't charge a lot! #ukedchat
@ICanTeach_uk possiblly. but how long before twitter is last year's

john_at_muuua 20:08
myspace? #ukedchat
RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up to

janwebb21 20:08
speed. It could be called BACTA or something similar.
RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god

ianaddison 20:08
called technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat
deerwood 20:08 @didactylos fair point #ukedchat
RT @ICanTeach_uk: Lanyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the

ianaddison 20:08 times -however those 'not' on twitter are not necessarily behind the
times
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RT @ICanTeach_uk: Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly
dughall 20:08 ahead of the times - however those 'not' on twitter are not
necessarily behind the times
@cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round & round though. If you
SusanElkinJourn 20:08
teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three times - it's said.
@squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive environment to start with.

duckinwales 20:08
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:08 @dughall didn't think it sounded like you!!! #ukedchat
@deerwood #ukedchat don't mind if there's a debate about it, its

didactylos 20:08
where people are still in a time warp that the problem lies
RT @TeachersTV Host Krishnsn is asking the panelists what changes
chrisrat 20:08 will mean for teachers #TTVdebate <-- don't you know #ukedchat is
on?!
@ianaddison Not true about outstanding and SATS. I know an
dughall 20:09
outstanding school w/poor results. #ukedchat
Surely keeping ahead is just about realistic self-evaluation. It comes

chrismayoh 20:09
from being well managed #ukedchat
@TeachersTV you want to know what teachers think? join #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:09
every thursday at 8pm. #ttvdebate
#ukedchat nvolve SLT in e-projects. Show them how children
AdiNotNow 20:09 improve, learn and become upskilled via tech in "old" traditional
areas. Lit, Num
RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too
john_at_muuua 20:09 much at the feet of the god called technology, maybe WE should take
a step back? #ukedchat >Or pause
#ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you teach better. Not a teaching
method or replacement for teaching.
DrAshCasey 20:09 @cleverfiend selective innovation #ukedchat
RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 but many schools don't have the positive

JfB57 20:09 wizards to lead. #ukedchat >That's where things like teachmeets
come in
RT @chrismayoh: Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select
didactylos 20:09
an appt set of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech #ukedchat
@cleverfiend absolutely - measured approach where one/two try

janwebb21 20:09
something out then feed on is important #ukedchat
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AdiNotNow 20:10 @chrismayoh #ukedchat hear hear!
@JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started using twitter

squiggle7 20:10
#ukedchat
indeed RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you

teach better. Not a teaching method or replacement for teaching.
#ukedchat More than tech I worry abut teacher attitude - them and
us, put downs etc. That's what we need to change.
RT @ianaddison: outstanding is all about sats levels, we got great

results, we're outstanding #ukedchat >Not in my experience
RT @SusanElkinJourn: @cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round &
ianaddison 20:10 round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three
times
@TheHeadsOffice @innerquest agree. it's the people that keep us
john_at_muuua 20:10
ahead, no the medium #ukedchat
@dughall depends on inspector. at my old school he said i'd love to

ianaddison 20:10
give you good/outstanding, but can't cos of results #ukedchat
xovation 20:10 with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
RT @chrismayoh: Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select
janwebb21 20:10 an appropriate set of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech
#ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: @TeachersTV you want to know what teachers
chrismayoh 20:11
think? join #ukedchat every thursday at 8pm. #ttvdebate
#ukedchat does innovation breed contempt? We have to convince
DrAshCasey 20:11 teachers not schools to be innovative otherwise it can be a flash in
the pan
@SkoorBttaM can see some inititatives that have been tweaked since
janwebb21 20:11
their original intro (and falling by the wayside) #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:11 keeping ahead is not as important as leading the way. #ukedchat
RT @duckinwales: @squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive

environment to start with. #ukedchat >Appointing right HT vital
@ianaddison Did he really mean 'results' though? Or maybe CVA or

dughall 20:11
progress? Anyway, that's another topic... #ukedchat
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@SkoorBttaM I think what sometimes gets forgotten is that
janwebb21 20:11 sometimes full circle is more of a spiral /BUILDING on previous
success #ukedchat
@SusanElkinJourn I've started to notice the cycle after 16 years in
cleverfiend 20:11 education :) I would hope each cycle gets refined and improved
#ukedchat
#ukedchat I have to constantly change how i do things in my job and
didactylos 20:11 stand up and show how I do it. Some eaehcers have not moved in a
decade.
#ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG leadership with
AdiNotNow 20:12
vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.
RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help
deerwood 20:12 you teach better. Not a teaching method or replacement for
teaching. < No
RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading
DrAshCasey 20:12
the way. #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:12 @TheHeadsOffice HT makes so much difference I agree! #ukedchat
@SkoorBttaM perhaps it's the fine tuning when we go full circle that
janwebb21 20:12
needs more attention than doing what we did 1st time #ukedchat
@squiggle7 @JfB57 #ukedchat - me too, have just put #tmhhs on my

duckinwales 20:12
annual CPD log - let's see if it raises any eyebrows/questions!
outstanding SEN schools don't fit this RT @ianaddison: outstanding all

about sats levels, we got great results, we're outstanding #ukedchat
RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you teach

dughall 20:12
better. Not a teaching method or replacement for teaching. <- YES!
ianaddison 20:12 @dughall well yeah...that can be next week's #ukedchat
Been off Twitter for a couple of weeks. Thought #ukedchat would be

mr_chadwick 20:12
good time to get back in, and topic is 'being behing the times'. I am!!
great list of links to open source #elearning tools http://bit.ly/btOh3d

dakinane 20:13
#teachers #in #fb #edchat #ukedchat #cpchat
How many here were fired up by this forum? Were you all born IT
obsessed? I suspect not so how did you get here?#ukedchat
@mr_chadwick haha there's still time to catch up and join in to

ianaddison 20:13
#ukedchat!
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my best teaching experience was in a Sri Lankan village. no electricity,
john_at_muuua 20:13
but completely socially aware and 'ahead of the times' #ukedchat
RT @deerwood: RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech

deerwood 20:13
is a tool for learning
#ukedchat the 'mantra' we don't have time is a killer - its similar to I

didactylos 20:13
don't have time to tidy my room - the payoff is easier if tidy
@didactylos very good point, but why are some teachers not moving
ianaddison 20:13
with the times? are they too busy to re-learn? #ukedchat
RT @TheHeadsOffice: How many here were fired up by this forum?
ianaddison 20:14 Were you all born IT obsessed?I suspect not so how did you get
here?#ukedchat
the way. #ukedchat >Absolutely!
RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of
janwebb21 20:14 teachmeets until I started using twitter #ukedchat >See my next
couple of tweets!
@john_at_muuua @TheHeadsOffice @innerquest #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:14 Stepping back from the tech will not necessarily engage pupils who
use it all the time
#ukedchat Is the Innovation Unit still going at DFS or has it fallen to
the axe?
RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG

greyengine 20:14
leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.
@ianaddison @didactylos managing the change is SO important but

janwebb21 20:14
some changes challenge pedagogies #ukedchat
@missbrownsword We are an outstanding SEN school - and still
cleverfiend 20:14 needed to get outstanding results - not sats but FFT/ CVA etc
#ukedchat
@ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model we have
didactylos 20:14
persisted with and they have come to expect
RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started

using twitter #ukedchat >See my next couple of tweets!
RT @colport: @ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous
janwebb21 20:15 personal learning journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach
#ukedchat
@carolrainbow @TheHeadsOffice @innerquest. Not 'stepping back',
john_at_muuua 20:15
but giving context and depth that does not need tech #ukedchat
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@missbrownsword Ah right. I can imagine she's quite stuck in her
Laura_987 20:15
ways. #ukedchat
#ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of idealism and
didactylos 20:15
interest and have the system bash it out of them?
@DrAshCasey isolation is the enemy of improvement <Ellmore> and
Catriona_O 20:15 it breeds contempt. WE need to talk to each other - simples!
#ukedchat
@didactylos: @ianaddison #ukedchat changing the CPD model could
deerwood 20:15
be key to bringing schools forward #ukedchat
RT @didactylos: @ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model

ianaddison 20:15
we have persisted with and they have come to expect
@ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous personal learning

colport 20:15
journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach #ukedchat
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of

ianaddison 20:16
idealism and interest and have the system bash it out of them?
Isn't accountability a big part of this debate? Why's it so difficult to

chrismayoh 20:16
get rid of staff who deliberately combat positive change? #ukedchat
@stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison is that in terms of using ICT or

deerwood 20:16
provision (or both)? #ukedchat
#Ukedchat the way to move forward is to utilise all ideas that are
lisacov19 20:16
available & what better way to share ideas than through multimedia?
@janwebb21#ukedchat and sometimes challenge the status quo at a

didactylos 20:16
very deep level
janwebb21 20:16 @ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat by playing catchup!
Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as @mister_jim

dughall 20:16 reminded us @ #tmx without change, there would be no butterflies.
#ukedchat
RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey isolation is the enemy of
cleverfiend 20:16 improvement <Ellmore> and it breeds contempt. WE need to talk to
each other - simples! #ukedchat
RT @missbrownsword: outstanding SEN schools & nurseries don't fit
with tests ideology @ianaddison: #ukedchat
#ukedchat Were you all born IT obsessed? I suspect not so how did
duckinwales 20:16
you get here? @TheHeadsOffice <--by having a good teacher?
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RT @colport: @ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous
ianaddison 20:16 personal learning journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach
#ukedchat
totally agree with @didactylos about CPD, how much CPD have you
ianaddison 20:16
had that has inspired you? (not inc teachmeets) #ukedchat
Yup > >RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need
chrismayoh 20:17
STRONG leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.
@stevebob79 Sadly so do I. Maybe OFSTED might not always be the

dughall 20:17
best judges of what is outstanding #personalopinion #ukedchat
@ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice sadly i probably was born a tech

john_at_muuua 20:17
head, but chose the arts because the tech was easy.#ukedchat
with CPD, especially tech, needs to be drip fed and followed up. So
squiggle7 20:17
much CPD not passed on/given support to implement #ukedchat
#ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy with doctors and
didactylos 20:17
would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
@Catriona_O but we need to do that as teachers within schools not

DrAshCasey 20:17
as schools with teachers. #ukedchat teachers maintain change
@DrAshCasey couldn't agree more. Therein the power to effect

Catriona_O 20:18
meanigful change lies.....#ukedchat
@didactylos it's very unsettling at so many lessons when we are
janwebb21 20:18 challenged to change the WAY we teach - values/emotions difficult
#ukedchat
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy
ianaddison 20:18
with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
@deerwood @stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison I don't believe

DrAshCasey 20:18
that ICT means innovation but innovation can use ICT #ukedchat
RT @dughall: Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as
ianaddison 20:18 @mister_jim says without change, there would be no butterflies.
#ukedchat
duckinwales 20:18
idealism and interest and have the system bash it out of them?
#ukedchat An alternative to getting these schools on track. Make
AdiNotNow 20:18 them use them for their CPD and all training so they see what
potential...
@didactylos Absolutely. This is one of the reasons why teaching is not
colport 20:19
seen as professional. We should continue our learning #ukedchat
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@ianaddison feels like that and I haven't even been lucky enough to
jessamacookie 20:19
get a FT job! #ukedchat (sorry down as lost out at another interview)

dughall 20:19
with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
@cleverfiend Yes - similar but not identical cycles of change, with

continuous improvement. #ukedchat
#ukedchat who believes in latest fad of large open learning spaces

Nevagonnabslim 20:19
with two or three lessons goin on
#Ukedchat keeping up to date is about being reflective of where we

lisacov19 20:19
are & what we are doing, looking at where http://tl.gd/6jc34l
@TheHeadsOffice I have no idea how I got into tech, just kinda

squiggle7 20:19
happened! #ukedchat
Leadership is *essential* without SMT buy-in, change & movement is

dughall 20:19
nigh on impossible #ukedchat
#ukedchat ...that technology would have for the children. They may
AdiNotNow 20:19
even keep up with them!!!
RT @DrAshCasey: @Catriona_O but we need to do that as teachers
john_at_muuua 20:19 within schools not as schools with teachers. #ukedchat teachers
maintain change
@ianaddison Is it just the system that bashes it out of people or the
NickiA10 20:19
endless admin? #ukedchat
It is often untrue true that people don't have time to do things. It's
chrismayoh 20:19
that they have chosen not to prioritise them #ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: I don't believe that ICT means innovation but

ianaddison 20:19
innovation can use ICT #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:19 idealism & interest &have the system bash it out of them? >Some not
all
It all goes round & round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change
SkoorBttaM 20:19
you'll be right three times- it's said <<Heard that before!! #ukedchat
RT @chrismayoh: Yup > >RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the
janwebb21 20:19 times schools need STRONG leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction
with the satus quo.
@duckinwales #ukedchat often by a chance 'seeing' of a process or
didactylos 20:19
idea and 'pinching it' to adopt to my own work
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RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teachers come into the job full of
mr_chadwick 20:19 idealism and have the system bash it out of them? < not the good
ones.
RT @chrismayoh: It is often untrue true that people don't have time
ianaddison 20:20 to do things.It's that they have chosen not to prioritise them
#ukedchat
#ukedchat I've loads of creative energy and enthusiasm after 35 years
didactylos 20:20
- but don't mark work, don't write reports, don't do the school 'clag'
we really are in danger of confusing the medium and the message

john_at_muuua 20:20
#ukedchat
@DrAshCasey @catriona_o To be effective surely individuals need
Arakwai 20:20 the support of a whole school culture promoting innovation ?
#ukedchat
Is it teacher recruitment or the consultants whr we need to root out
innerquest 20:20
the "unbelievers" in technology 4 learning? ive met a few! #ukedchat
@DrAshCasey I agree. But school I'm thinking had little ict therefore
stevebob79 20:20
not delivering curriculum so should not be 'outstanding' #ukedchat
@AdiNotNow what to say to a group of teachers who want to
janwebb21 20:20 develop use of ict and need to see the potential? big pic or baby
steps? #ukedchat
#ukedchat unconsciously incompetent to consciously incompetent to
ICanTeach_uk 20:20 consciously competent to unconsciously competent - this is about
CPD
Ok, so what do we do about it? Let's start with our school. How can
ianaddison 20:20
we get the teachers to be more 'up with it'? #ukedchat
@didactylos but we make CPD look like staying up to date &
DrAshCasey 20:20 encourage tradition. Need to change CPD 2 help those behind to
catch up #ukedchat
JfB57 20:20 with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
>Excellent
Staff come to me for CPD when a) they see what I do and want to use
duckinwales 20:20
the same b) they understand it will save them time. #ukedchat
RT @squiggle7: I have no idea how I got into tech, just kinda

happened! #ukedchat >I bet there was a positive wizard somewhere!
@JfB57 different approaches - carrot/stick, make them feel bad or

janwebb21 20:21
encouragement/support/modelling #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:21
the way. #ukedchat
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AdiNotNow 20:21 @ianaddison #ukedchat non pupil day online?
didactylos 20:21 #ukedchat wonder if there's some correlation?
It has to be a pretty dire place where all the staff, + whole school, are
colport 20:21
'behind the times'! Surely there are pockets of change? #ukedchat
RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised

MissSMitch 20:22
learning CPD as opposed to whole school 'soakings'
#ukedchat ...but also needs direction from the top and 'stick' used
stevebob79 20:22
along with the 'carrot'
You can either put policies in place to stop people not doing it, or cpd
innerquest 20:22
people to be better, both would be needed #ukedchat
duckinwales 20:22 #ukedchat @ianaddison lead by example.
@ianaddison Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show

dughall 20:22 them impact on learners, that often works. (*you* know that ;-))
#ukedchat
@didactylos #ukedchat I get told that teachers are too old to get to
caroljallen 20:22 grips with technology - I top trump them on age and say get on with
it!
@drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised learning CPD as
didactylos 20:22
opposed to whole school 'soakings'
we educate. we are not tech salespersons. knowledge has no

john_at_muuua 20:22
operating system. #ukedchat
#ukedchat need to start by those leading demonstrating outcomes/

stevebob79 20:22
advantages and inspiring people to join the ride
@john_at_muuua Education is learning to think for yourself. Training

is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat
@janwebb21 You have the big picture & break it into baby steps!
JfB57 20:23
#ukedchat
@ianaddison I have got other teachers at school doing things

differently because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?' #ukedchat
@colport I think if the head is behind the times it is easy for the staff
carolrainbow 20:23
not to bother! (Especially a school with older staff ;-) #ukedchat
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@didactylos @drashcasey totally agree. CPD should be much more
john_at_muuua 20:23
differentiated#ukedchat
#ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind the times in how we

Paddymcgrath 20:23
treat young people
#ukedchat all this self congratulatory back slapping navel gazing look
mdpkeenan 20:23
how good we are at ict - pointless because no "dinosaurs" watching
RT @caroljallen: #ukedchat I get told that teachers are too old to get
ianaddison 20:23
to grips with technology -I trump them on age and say get on with it!
@colport #ukedchat in 2ndry pockets of change are no use re the

didactylos 20:23
whole curriculum experience for the learner

learning CPD as opposed to whole school 'soakings'
@DrAshCasey not sure about that. Working to a deficit model? Much
Catriona_O 20:23 prefer the developmental one we use - 4stage
http://bit.ly/bFvMx5#ukedchat
@ianaddison If necessary it has to be part of PM to get them started
#ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice not at school, I think I picked it up along the way

squiggle7 20:23
and enjoyed using it. #ukedchat
@skoorBttaM certainly true about current situation #ukedchat -

janwebb21 20:24
babies being thrown out with bathwater
RT @TheHeadsOffice: @ianaddison If necessary it has to be part of

dughall 20:24
PM to get them started #ukedchat <- everyone's PM helps
@ianaddison Have to be good example/role model. Then they'll

mr_chadwick 20:24
come to you. #ukedchat
RT @Arakwai: @DrAshCasey @catriona_o To be effective surely
chrismayoh 20:24 individuals need the support of a whole school culture promoting
innovation ? #ukedchat
RT @Paddymcgrath: #ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind
the times in how we treat young people
@missbrownsword i used that a lot at my old school, it's working at

ianaddison 20:24
this one a bit too! #ukedchat, ppl don't want to be left out
@ianaddison we need to give them time to breath. Teachers who
DrAshCasey 20:24 rush don't have time to look around at see the alternatives.
#ukedchat
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@didactylos #ukedchat fully agree, even topics that are CPD for all
caroljallen 20:24 should not be delivered en masse! Personalise and respect learning
need
RT @john_at_muuua: we educate. we are not tech salespersons.
drtimony 20:24
knowledge has no operating system. #ukedchat
RT @missbrownsword: @ianaddison I got other teachers at school
ianaddison 20:24 doing things differently because'can we do what Miss B's class do?'
#ukedchat
squiggle7 20:24
learning CPD ... < def should be differentiated #ukedchat
@caroljallen#ukedchat agree fully , and respectfully point out I can

didactylos 20:24
top trump you!
RT @john_at_muuua: we educate. we are not tech salespersons.

kishtiaq 20:24
knowledge has no operating system. #ukedchat
RT @Paddymcgrath: #ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind

john_at_muuua 20:24
the times in how we treat young people
@DrAshCasey maybe it's not all up to the teachers? pupil lead
Catriona_O 20:25 learning - like http://bit.ly/anRLbk might help move everyone
on?#ukedchat
RT @SusanElkinJourn: @john_at_muuua Education is learning to
Paddymcgrath 20:25
think for yourself. Training is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat
@ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and not have to look at

DrAshCasey 20:25
their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
@didactylos hmm, personalised learning CPD ... do you mind if I use

deerwood 20:25
that phrase? #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:25 @colport Your pockets my positive wizards! #ukedchat
@mdpkeenan but we're trying to discuss ways to help the 'dinosaurs',

ianaddison 20:25
what do you suggest? #ukedchat
RT @SusanElkinJourn: @john_at_muuua Education is learning to

john_at_muuua 20:25
think for yourself. Training is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:25 @SusanElkinJourn thank you! well said! :-) #ukedchat
RT @dughall Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show

stevebob79 20:25
them impact on learners, that often works. #ukedchat
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RT @dughall: @mdpkeenan Should we show #ukedchat to the
janwebb21 20:26
dinosaurs then? And. Explain. It. Very. Slowly?
@didactylos @caroljallen don't you two start arguing, you're both

deerwood 20:26
inspirational #ukedchat
RT @duckinwales: #ukedchat @ianaddison lead by example >There

are enough great things here to have those in abundance!
@JfB57 I agree but some find the whole big picture extremely
janwebb21 20:26
scary!!! #ukedchat
RT @missbrownsword:I have got other teachers at school doing
dughall 20:26 things differently because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?'
#ukedchat
Are you all taking part in the #TTVDebate? If not, shame on you!
TeacherToolkit 20:26
#ukedchat
@stevebob79 Are we defining innovation and good practice by ICT? I
DrAshCasey 20:26 think as teachers we can look beyond that...horses for courses
#ukedchat
@missbrownsword the kids i teach are my best ambassadors, they
sciencelabman 20:26
ask other teachers if we can.... do what mr Pratts class do.#ukedchat
@dughall #ukedchat agreed without smt buy widespread

andyjb 20:26
organisational change doesnt happen
RT @mr_chadwick @ianaddison Have to be good example/role

duckinwales 20:26
model. Then they'll come to you. #ukedchat <-- so true.
@ianaddison #ukedchat Using for example elluminate, a blog using
AdiNotNow 20:26 the schools ICT suite collaborative docs on for example Google docs
etc
#Ukedchat using Ict has to be proven & purposeful - doing training
lisacov19 20:26
session tomoro on web 2.0 & how using elements can enhance t & l
RT @DrAshCasey: we need teachers to look ahead and not have to

ianaddison 20:26
look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
@mdpkeenan Should we show #ukedchat to the dinosaurs then?

dughall 20:26
And. Explain. It. Very. Slowly?
@dughall @mdpkeenan I've shown links to #ukedchat archives to

ianaddison 20:27
non tweeters, it's a good way to get them thinking. just a little bit
@caroljallen but doesn't there need to be an element of a big

janwebb21 20:27
picture? need an end destination to plot a route #ukedchat
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@theheadsoffice #ukedchat certainly they can benefit from tech to
didactylos 20:27
work smarter, though some like 'gate duty' etc is still a pain for staff
teaching and learning individual practise maybe different #ukedchat

andyjb 20:27
but have to be convinced on within school transfer
@Arakwai @catriona_o I don't think you need it to be effective in

DrAshCasey 20:27
your classroom but top down CPD is not effective... #ukedchat
@chrismayoh If what you're doing isn't recognised as 'positive'

SkoorBttaM 20:27
change then should it be as easy to get rid of you? #ukedchat
little & often helps- easy & effective tech-tip at end of newsletter,
ZoeRoss19 20:27
persuading SMT to give over bit of INSET for sharing etc #ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and

janwebb21 20:27
not have to look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need to give them time to breath.
SusanElkinJourn 20:27 Teachers who rush don't have time to look around at see the
alternatives. #ukedchat
RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey maybe it's not all up to the teachers?
janwebb21 20:27 pupil lead learning - like http://bit.ly/anRLbk might help move
everyone on?#ukedchat
RT @dughall Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show
lisacov19 20:27 them impact on learners, that often works. #ukedchat our starting
point
#ukedchat educators have a wide variety of tools abd tech is one
kishtiaq 20:27
such tool. The best teachers use basic tools and this may not be tech
@ianaddison #ukedchat start by respecting their fear, then show
caroljallen 20:27 them the way forward in achieveable steps rather than showing an
end point
chrismayoh 20:28 @skoorBttaM Good point. Even consensus is only opinion #ukedchat
@didactylos Fair comment. I was coming from the perspective of a

colport 20:28
primary school #ukedchat
RT @carolrainbow: @colport Easy for sch to play the age card.

#ukedchat Unfair & lost opportunity
@DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the appropriate tool for the
stevebob79 20:28
job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing when not to use it #ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and

john_at_muuua 20:28
not have to look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
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@john_at_muuua I think Twitter is sustainable but will be
ICanTeach_uk 20:28 superseded - bound to be something out there for tomorrows
teachers #ukedchat
RT @deerwood: How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and
Olivia_Darlin 20:28 how can we demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat
http://ow.ly/19zipv
kishtiaq 20:29 #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech, tech, tech!
Keep forgetting hashtag!! Told you I was 'behind the times'

mr_chadwick 20:29
#ukedchat
RT @SkoorBttaM: RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without

sellyeve 20:29
SMT buy-in, change & movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat
@Catriona_O joining late: soz. Agree and think that lot nontech
scholaforis 20:29
teachers afraid to show ignorance in front of tech savvie kids
Primary & EY - Do U need technology 2 B a successful teacher? Does

innerquest 20:29
a child need techology 2 learn? It's fun, but is it neccessary #ukedchat
@carolrainbow Agree, but I go back to the motivation of people
colport 20:29 teaching in the first place - the pupils. Or at least it should be
#ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice age is just a number - it's perspective that counts
sellyeve 20:29
#ukedchat
@didactylos yes....hosing everyone down with CPD doesn't make

DrAshCasey 20:29
them change it just makes them annoyed #ukedchat
RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without SMT buy-in, change &

SkoorBttaM 20:29
movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat
@ianaddison #ukedchat We have involved reluctsant teachers from
AdiNotNow 20:29 the start with our MLE. still in process of setting up but they're
enthused
@DrAshCasey if it's not effective in the classroom it's not effective!
Catriona_O 20:29
#ukedchat
Sorry to cry off #ukedchat this evening, just back in from a LONG day!
DeputyMitchell 20:29
Will catch up later when I'm lying wide awake in bed! ;-)
Agree with @missbrownsword Children seeing another class and
mr_chadwick 20:29 wanting to be involved. Have to be horrid teacher not to act then.
#ukedchat
RT @stevebob79: @DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the
john_at_muuua 20:29 appropriate tool for the job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing
when not to use it #ukedchat
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@TeacherToolkit we have our own discussion going on here at
ianaddison 20:29
#ukedchat shame on #ttvdebate for not checking their diary!
@lisacov19 How would the use of ICT for T&L ever get proven if to
predacomDom 20:30
use it it always has to be proven? #Ukedchat
@caroljallen it's a really fine balance between inspiration and

janwebb21 20:30
trepidation #ukedchat
@ianaddison then we should show how talented we all are by

TeacherToolkit 20:30
tweeting #ukedchat & #TTVDebate in all our chats = #EduBate
RT @TeacherToolkit: Are you all taking part in the #TTVDebate? If

teachersTV 20:30
not, shame on you! #ukedchat
@ICanTeach_uk i'm not convinced. it's good for us techy aware
john_at_muuua 20:30 people. but put it in front of 'the others' and they go blank.
#ukedchat
@dughall Wh sch obj for PM means everyone 'suffers' & that helps
TheHeadsOffice 20:30 those who are reluctant. Shared misery but then lights come on
#ukedchat
RT @TheHeadsOffice: @colport Easy for sch to play the age card.
carolrainbow 20:30 #ukedchat Unfair & lost opportunity - Very unfair on pupils and
unnecessary
@colport #ukedchat think its much more effective in a Primary - also
didactylos 20:30
its a smaller org so will have impact - not the silo mentality of 2ndry
#ukedchat is there a culture in some schools which is deliberately

jimbo9848 20:30
negative to technology?
One HoD I know insisted his dept complete tasks on computer/use

ZoeRoss19 20:30
tech-they hated it & it's not my style at all, but they did it! #ukedchat
RT @stevebob79: It's about the appropriate tool for the job. One of
dughall 20:30
greatest ICT skills is knowing when not to use it #ukedchat
I've started slowly slowly catchy monkey at my school, lead by

ianaddison 20:30
example, provide helpsheets too http://bit.ly/cQCy16 #ukedchat
@lisacov19 Experimentation leads to success, but also failure. But

predacomDom 20:31
having the confidence to fail always leads to success. #Ukedchat
@TeacherToolkit if i was lurking, i'd try and join in with #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:31
and #ttvdebate but i'm moderating one of them!
@ZoeRoss19 #ukedchat when I started teaching my HOD signed me
caroljallen 20:31 up for typing lessons insisting his dept would not produce
handwritten stuff!
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@Catriona_O the meaningful use of student voice rather than the
DrAshCasey 20:31
current rhetoric ... like it ... #ukedchat
#ukedchat we also live in a culture where experimentation is not in

didactylos 20:31
vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe re targets and Ofsted
@jimbo9848 in many. because schools and management move

john_at_muuua 20:31
slowly and tech doesn't. #ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: @didactylos yes....hosing everyone down with CPD

dughall 20:31
doesn't make them change it just makes them annoyed #ukedchat
RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech,

tech, tech!
@DrAshCasey THey need the confidence that the HT prepared the

path & that it is safe #ukedchat
@colport Absolutely - the pupils have the right to good quality tech
carolrainbow 20:31
tools and teaching #ukedchat

colport 20:31
tech, tech! <- Agree. I fear there has been little emphasis within UK
@carolrainbow @TheHeadsOffice @colport #ukedchat Not much to

do with age. Have worked with young dinosaurs & old get-aheads.
What is lacking is an understanding of instructional design or design

innerquest 20:32
for learning - right media for right mode of learning #ukedchat
RT @chrismayoh: @innerquest No good teacher *needs* tech (if
john_at_muuua 20:32 we're thinking flash ICT stuff). A good teacher is someone who can
convey info well #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:32 @chrismayoh and harness the potential of what they have #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice isn't engaging others in using technology

sellyeve 20:32
something you do with them rather than to them!? #ukedchat
@DrAshCasey Believe can be IF presented & supported in right way.
Arakwai 20:32 Can lead 2 effective consistency of good practice across school
#ukedchat
dughall 20:32
tech, tech!
RT @janwebb21: @JfB57 I agree but some find the whole big picture
TheHeadsOffice 20:32 extremely scary!!! #ukedchat >Don't tell them! As long as the lead
has it
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RT @colport: RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy,
john_at_muuua 20:32 pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! <- Agree. I fear there has been little
emphasis within UK
RT @SkoorBttaM: RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without
ZoeRoss19 20:32 SMT buy-in, change & movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat <
SO true!!
janwebb21 20:32 pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! <- Agree. I fear there has been little
emphasis within UK
@innerquest No good teacher *needs* tech (if we're thinking flash
chrismayoh 20:32 ICT stuff). A good teacher is someone who can convey info well
#ukedchat
dughall 20:32 @TheHeadsOffice Yep. I've seen that work. #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:32
tech, tech!
RT @dughall: RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy,

deerwood 20:33
pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! < it's not a contest .. it's about support
chrismayoh 20:33 @janwebb21 Absolutely #ukedchat
Certainly. Sadly > RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat is there a culture in

chrismayoh 20:33
some schools which is deliberately negative to technology?
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat we also live in a culture where
ianaddison 20:33 experimentation is not in vogue - keeping in the shoal is safe re
targets/Ofsted
@ianaddison Folk I've talked to about twitter #ukedchat & the sort
of things I get up to here are amazed & want to know more!
@jimbo9848 I think schools with a whole school anti tech culture are
dughall 20:33
rare. But again, I say SMT/leaders are influential here. #ukedchat
RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey if it's not effective in the classroom

DrAshCasey 20:33
it's not effective! #ukedchat
RT: I have got other teachers at school doing things differently
SkoorBttaM 20:33 because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?' >>>>Pester power!!
#ukedchat
RT @stevebob79: @DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the
DrAshCasey 20:33 appropriate tool for the job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing
when not to use it #ukedchat
@janwebb21 #ukedchat Absolutely - and that is why one size fits all
caroljallen 20:33
CPD excites some; supports others; bores some and frightens others!
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@TeachersTV not meant negatively, but #ukedchat is growing and
ianaddison 20:33
growing, I'm sure debates on different nights would help in future
didactylos 20:33 @drashcasey #ukedchat and plays to the cynical 'back row'
@SusanElkinJourn I know what you mean. I know younger teachers

colport 20:33 who love the QCA schemes for teaching - now that's behind the times
#ukedchat
I don't think it's about tech tho, things like outdoor learning, forest
schools etc are v forward thinking & totally non-tech #ukedchat
RT @predacomDom: Experimentation leads to success, but also
ianaddison 20:34 failure. But having the confidence to fail always leads to success.
#Ukedchat
I still think we're missing an opportunity by not letting the ch lead
more. Just look at the impact all ur class blogs are having #ukedchat
@caroljallen we personalise learning for students - need to do the

janwebb21 20:34
same for staff because they aren't all one size #ukedchat
dughall 20:34 experimentation is not in vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe
re targets and Ofsted
DeputyHeadDunn 20:34 Hi all, late tonight!
#ukedchat @missbrownsword very true - that reminds me - where is

duckinwales 20:34
@ForesterJo? lost in the woods?
@missbrownsword #ukedchat technology - even if a quill pen, is just

didactylos 20:34
a tool for learning, totally agree with you
I think people have to be commited to professional development

CHAR0ULA 20:34
otherwise they get stuck no matter where they are #ukedchat
@DeputyHeadDunn irony...it's about being behind the times tonight!

ianaddison 20:35
#ukedchat
@dughall @jimbo9848 yes I both pity and admire ICT coords working
deerwood 20:35
in a school were HT or SMT are opposed to tech #ukedchat
RT @TheHeadsOffice: Folk I've talked to about twitter #ukedchat &

ianaddison 20:35
the sort of things I get up to here are amazed & want to know more!
@dughall isn't that's a choice that you make though...or not?

sellyeve 20:35
#ukedchat
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RT @missbrownsword: I don't think it's about tech tho, things like
dughall 20:35 outdoor learning, forest schools etc are v forward thinking & totally
non-tech #ukedchat
How many of you who have set up class blogs haven't had other staff
asking for one too! #ukedchat
RT @didactylos: @missbrownsword #ukedchat technology - even if a

john_at_muuua 20:35
quill pen, is just a tool for learning, totally agree with you
@innerquest 80% of time no ict to help in supply work but survive
jessamacookie 20:35 fine. Its about using tools effectively not jus cos theyre there
#ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice not always. My HT asked me the purpose of PhD
DrAshCasey 20:35 aimed at improving my pupils learning experiences...it helps though
#ukedchat
@deerwood #ukedchat exactly! ...and perceptive, effective support
caroljallen 20:35
at that!
#ukedchat Are some colleagues so resistant to change & reflective

practice that they really are in the wrong job & should be 'let go'?
@caroljallen Well, ur on here now,so that's pretty fantastic progress!

ZoeRoss19 20:35
If time / lessons given, then have less of an issue with it #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice i was asked today if we can have a blog for the
ianaddison 20:36 school choir! I don't even know what they'd do with it! cool tho
#ukedchat
@didactylos I thought they were making out in the back row...?
DrAshCasey 20:36
#ukedchat
@ebd35 I thought I'd better catch up with the new stuff when I did
janwebb21 20:36
return to teaching!!! #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice that's why thematic planning with the children is
missbrownsword 20:36 so effective in some primaries, they can lead & take control
#ukedchat
RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen we personalise learning for students -
dughall 20:36 need to do the same for staff because they aren't all one size
#ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:36 @ianaddison Oh irony indeed! lol #ukedchat
@missbrownsword agreed. E.g. celebrated reading project on TV

stevebob79 20:36 recently with @garethmalone. Lots of innovation, no tech in sight...
#ukedchat
RT @theheadsoffice: think we're missing an opp by not letting the ch
didactylos 20:36
ld more. Just lk at the impact all ur class blogs are having #ukedchat
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@predacomDom #Ukedchat in context of moving drinosaurs fwd - u
lisacov19 20:36 have to be believe that ICT is the right tool & be brave enough to
prove it
@SusanElkinJourn definitely agree. Too much deadwood who have
Paddymcgrath 20:36
fixed notions of student ability #ukedchat
#ukedchat - so much 2 discuss. Successive US govts throw inc
Catriona_O 20:36 amounts of $ at education but still attainemt/rankings fall. $/Â£ not
the answer
@john_at_muuua but that is an old fashioned sage on the stage - not
carolrainbow 20:36 the modern guide on the side with tech enabling research etc
#ukedchat
Grevster73 20:36
tech, tech!
#ukedchat Were you all born IT obsessed? Mature student& thought
ebd35 20:36 good option 2study as focus subject during BA Ed&now see what
happened ;o)
RT @sellyeve: @TheHeadsOffice age is just a number - it's
perspective that counts #ukedchat >Of the SLT as well!
@Paddymcgrath #ukedchat Fixed notions of student ability (usually

en masse: 'Kids like these . . .') are the worst thing of all.
@caroljallen #ukedchat teaching is teaching whatever the age group!

janwebb21 20:37
learning has to be personal to be effective!
@ianaddison Blog songs for them to learn at home...we do it and

DeputyHeadDunn 20:37
they love it! #ukedchat
#ukedchat anyone know a celeb that would attend a student

Nevagonnabslim 20:37
enterprise project- their own high street shop!
Agreed! RT @didactylos: #ukedchat live in culture where
jessamacookie 20:37 experimentation is not vogue-where keepin in the shoal is safe re
targets and Ofsted
Leadership is *essential* w/out SMT buyin, change & movement is
ebd35 20:37 nigh impossible #ukedchat -@dughall Disagree as I'm a loner on my
own
didactylos 20:37 @drashcasey #ukedchat aha that's just your imagination!
@TheHeadsOffice As you know, I am trying to trial #classblogs for my

colport 20:37
class to get others to do it, but hear the 'time' excuse #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice what matters is a) effectiveness in the job b)

sellyeve 20:37
focusing on what you're there to achieve with children #ukedchat
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RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen we personalise learning for students -
nellmog 20:37 need to do the same for staff because they aren't all one size
#ukedchat
@predacomDom #Ukedchat lagree with leadership points but also
lisacov19 20:37
need to be able to bite the bullet & lead by example

pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! I remember Piaget!
@ebd35 You may be a loner. That is my point. The *school* isn't

dughall 20:38
moving, you are. #ukedchat
@DeputyHeadDunn i think we're going to make a 'clubs' blog,
ianaddison 20:38 otherwise, every club will have one. not sure if good or bad thing?
#ukedchat
RT @colport: It has to be a pretty dire place where all the staff, +
ebd35 20:38 whole school, are 'behind the times'! Surely there are pockets of
change? #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:38 @ianaddison perhaps they'd like podcasting their work!!! #ukedchat
RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen #ukedchat teaching is teaching

john_at_muuua 20:38
whatever the age group! learning has to be personal to be effective!
DrAshCasey 20:38 @didactylos well they're certainly not listening anymore. #ukedchat
@sellyeve Yes with not to but you may have to have a cunning plan
to get them there if the incentive isn't there naturally! #ukedchat
@sellyeve Yes, but not always an easy choice to make to leave the
dughall 20:38 shoal and face wrath of Ofsted or death by falling standards...
#ukedchat
#ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical approaches, but
Grevster73 20:39
hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.
#ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical approaches, but

TheBadgerBloke 20:39
hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.
@TheHeadsOffice @colport @kishtiag not to mention Vygotsky and
janwebb21 20:39 zones of proximal development!!!! prob even more appropriate for
#ukedchat
RT @colport: I am trying to trial #classblogs for my class to get others
mr_chadwick 20:39
to do it, but hear the 'time' excuse #ukedchat < very familiar!!
lisacov19 20:39 experimentation is not in vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe
re targets and Ofsted
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Somehow I think technology has evolved to where it's more than a
geraldhaigh1 20:39
tool. A working environment? A virtual learning space? #ukedchat
#ukedchat the current president of GTCS promised to make the word
esoldaveglasgow 20:39 Pedagogy common currency in Scottish education. It hasn't happened
yet.
@dughall true but I think ofsted do a lot of following too - that's how
sellyeve 20:39
they end up trying to impose a one size fits all solution #ukedchat
@dughall tbh though, falling standards can't be accepted whatever

the reason
#ukedchat I don't say everyone must use Twitter, but its a superb
didactylos 20:39
way of getting heads up on areas you could develop your own CPD
Concerned that we are pulling the 'behind schools' up on fibre optics

DrAshCasey 20:39
and not good practice #ukedchat
@ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice don't forget to put up some
duckinwales 20:39 #ukedchat posters!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2698233/ukedchat%20flyer.pdf
So, if we 'personalise' CPD for staff, can that help bring schools
deerwood 20:39
forward? #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:39 @Brendano Absolutely! #ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:39 @colport they don't want to do it if the t word comes up #ukedchat
RT @TheHeadsOffice @DrAshCasey THey need the confidence that

lisacov19 20:39
the HT prepared the path & that it is safe #ukedchat << very true
@DeputyHeadDunn Can't argue with that! I suppose I mean the

dughall 20:40
'standards agenda' is what can stifle risk-taking. #ukedchat
RT @the_lpn: y'know, you could leave a comment here about you

didactylos 20:40
and your learning platform :-) www.northerngrid.org/lpn #ukedchat
@ianaddison nothing new= bad how can it be outstanding if it's not

Rachelisyoung 20:40
moving forward? #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice I may be naive but I like to think most teachers are

sellyeve 20:40
inspired by children's learning - then tech is opportunity #ukedchat
Doing same I think>RT @ianaddison: @DeputyHeadDunn i think
chrismayoh 20:40 we're going to make a 'clubs' blog, otherwise, every club will have
one #ukedchat
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RT @mr_chadwick: @ianaddison Have to be good example/role
ebd35 20:40
model. Then they'll come to you. #ukedchat
@deerwood #ukedchat absolutely! It works, it is effective and dare I

caroljallen 20:40
say it ...produces impact!
Paddymcgrath 20:40 @SusanElkinJourn it's always is a red rag for me #ukedchat
@ianaddison suppose it depends on how many clubs you've got!

We're a small primary so works well the way we do it #ukedchat
@colport depends on who defines the times? #ukedchat if its league

DrAshCasey 20:40
tables then they might not be so badly off
@drashcasey #ukedchat err, actually now I've looked a bit closer you
didactylos 20:40
could be right!
small distinction but are we 'bringing schools forward' or 'taking

john_at_muuua 20:41
schools forward'? big difference #ukedchat
#ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a VLE in the cloud

jimbo9848 20:41
that works and teachers can operate. One day maybe...
DeputyHeadDunn 20:41 @dughall oh I agree totally! #ukedchat
@jessamacookie I think Ofsted is changing though - ICT important

carolrainbow 20:41
again - learning important not test results #ukedchat
@geraldhaigh1 I wouldn't even say the tech is that - it is an enabler
janwebb21 20:41 for such things to take place and learning needs to be at <3
#ukedchat
RT Fear goes long way in stopping ppl keeping up &allowing change.
NickiA10 20:41
Endless targets, being beaten up 4 not meeting them. #ukedchat
@Grevster73 #ukedchat child first, learning needs, teaching methods

caroljallen 20:41
with tech embedded, curriculum and up from there!
@deerwood Yes except some staff will reject & ridicule CPD on
principle - I used to be CPD co-ordinator in a sec school. #ukedchat
@ianaddison Choir blog - brill! Try to get the parents interested!

#ukedchat
duckinwales 20:41 #ukedchat @Nevagonnabslim how about @queenofshops
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squiggle7 20:41 @mr_chadwick that and e-safety are what I hear #ukedchat
@deerwood Definately. We have seminars on different topics we

Arakwai 20:42
can sign up for, which a range of staff run. #ukedchat
@Paddymcgrath @mr_chadwick I do my class blog as a means of
colport 20:42 communicating to parents http://bit.ly/cWC2Vy and pupils to discuss
#ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:42 @TheHeadsOffice agreed. 100% #ukedchat
@deerwood I like the action research approach to cpd - focused,

Grevster73 20:42
personalized and effective small scale change #ukedchat
@ianaddison ways to help the 'dinosaurs', what do you suggest?
ebd35 20:42 #ukedchat Make it VERY easy for it to happen and make sure tech
works!
RT: @dan_bowen: @DrAshCasey @deerwood @stevebob79
DrAshCasey 20:42 @dughall @ianaddison an innovation depends on your point of
reference #ukedchat
@geraldhaigh1 #ukedchat a healthy ecosystem is how I like to
didactylos 20:42
describe it
@TheHeadsOffice our parents love it! They take lots of interest

#ukedchat
@colport HT should 'make' the time available. I think 'no time is the
worst excuse to make! #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:42 @caroljallen most definitely!! #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice Totally agree. My class blog takes 5 minutes a day!

colport 20:43 I make sure I find the time, for the benefit of pupils&parents
#ukedchat
@DrAshCasey Important that 'free' laptops are not focussed on ch in
sch not interested in IT. Wasted resource #ukedchat
I would highly recommend it RT @simfin: may I offer my latest blog

didactylos 20:43
on learning platforms to the discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
#ukedchat haven't we had something like 100 baker days since they
Paddymcgrath 20:43
started. What's changed? What do we need to do in the next 100
#ukedchat Trying to keep up at this speed is bringing on my (cured, I

thought) RSI so I'm bowing out for tonight. Another gd session, tho.
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RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a
TheBadgerBloke 20:43 VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day
maybe...
Grevster73 20:43 VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day
maybe...
RT @Grevster73: @deerwood I like the action research approach to
missbrownsword 20:43 cpd - focused, personalized and effective small scale change
#ukedchat
@mr_chadwick #classblogs #ukedchat We are always saying the
carolrainbow 20:43 same - good tech does not take more time but needs teacher to work
differently
ubiqutious technology, we're immersed in it, would we survive if we
innerquest 20:43
lived 30 years agio? Hold on...we did! #ukedchat
may I offer my latest blog on learning platforms to the discussion

simfin 20:43
http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice for the most part, children are always interested in

sellyeve 20:44
IT aren't they? #ukedchat
RT @simfin: may I offer my latest blog on learning platforms to the

ianaddison 20:44
discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
RT @Grevster73: #ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical

approaches, but hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog. >SO right!
@colport I heard the time excuse too- now the children write the
SkoorBttaM 20:44
blog post!! #ukedchat
#ukedchat Behind the times? on my SCITT today trainees were
stevebob79 20:44 amazed when I mentioned QCA SoW for ICT that many still follow is
12yrs old
@stevebob79 i remember learning about 'punch cards' in 'IT' in 1984.
john_at_muuua 20:45
It was ever thus! #ukedchat
@skoorBttaM Good idea. Again, that is involving the pupil. Could

colport 20:45
work in KS2+ #ukedchat
RT @lisacov19: RT @TheHeadsOffice @DrAshCasey THey need the
bennzaksflorist 20:45 confidence that the HT prepared the path & it is safe #ukedchat <<
very true
RT @Grevster73: #ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical
DeputyHeadDunn 20:45 approaches, but hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.
#ukedchat
so what are the 'quick wins' that are very simple to do but provide a
ianaddison 20:45
nice way in for reluctant teachers? #ukedchat
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@ebd35 @ianaddison #ukedchat 'dinosaurs' are just laggards - they
need the support & safety to try new technology
@ebd35 @ianaddison #ukedchat 'dinosaurs' are just laggards - they

Grevster73 20:45
need the support & safety to try new technology
#ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a pretty good

didactylos 20:45
way of moving people one - right teaming is vital
@janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat session?

colport 20:45
[@TheHeadsOffice ]
@carolrainbow I hope the trend continues. Hate the idea I had in ITT
jessamacookie 20:45
of 'teaching the test' to my yr2s #ukedchat
@Arakwai it might act as the catalyst for change but it is not what
DrAshCasey 20:45
keeps it going #ukedchat
trees2066 20:46 School disco just finished... late to #ukedchat again...
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a

dughall 20:46
pretty good way of moving people one - right teaming is vital
ianaddison 20:46 @DeputyHeadDunn any area #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice it is a shame how much we do waste and now we

DrAshCasey 20:46
are losing specialist schools. A sad day. #ukedchat
RT @lisacov19: @Paddymcgrath #ukedchat reflect -review -

Paddymcgrath 20:46
reposition & move on
@TheBadgerBloke 'dinosaurs' 'laggards' recent conference described

sellyeve 20:46
them as '1973 ford cortinas' - labels...makes me flinch! #ukedchat
Perhaps the problem is that we're still engaged in a school system

innerquest 20:46
from the Victorian era, should we be moving outside of it #ukedchat
@colport I think you could be right! (when's my next moderation! )

janwebb21 20:46
#ukedchat
RT @colport: @janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat

dughall 20:46
session? [@TheHeadsOffice ] <- Absolutely
@sellyeve Some teachers need to be re-inspired as they have got a

bit lost in tests etc. Always be some who should go though #ukedchat
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NickiA10 20:46 How do you keep up with ukedchat?
@stevebob79 QCA ICT schemes of work are older than any children
ianaddison 20:46
in my school... #ukedchat
lisacov19 20:46 @Paddymcgrath #ukedchat reflect -review - reposition & move on
DeputyHeadDunn 20:46 @ianaddison plenty of those...what area? #ukedchat
#ukedchat A good mentoring/coaching programme within a school

Arakwai 20:46
can support staff (and school) development if run well.
@dughall @colport @janwebb21 @TheHeadsOffice we need some

ianaddison 20:47
non-tech #ukedchat sessions i reckon
@ianaddison Web 2.0 easy to use tool such as Fotobabble, wordle,

carolrainbow 20:47
discussion forums, edu glogster, story makers. comics #ukedchat
RT @dughall: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team
john_at_muuua 20:47 teaching' can be a pretty good way of moving people one - right
teaming is vital
#ukedchat I'm using my new iPad for the first time tonight! This has
huge educational potential! #smugmode
#ukedchat I'm using my new iPad for the first time tonight! This has
Grevster73 20:47
huge educational potential! #smugmode
lesson study is a good model for sharing good practice but it takes up
a lot of time #ukedchat
@dughall Are you saying risk taking & standards can't go together?
#ukedchat
@ianaddison #ukedchat I find that free stuff from the web to
caroljallen 20:47 support barriers to learning eg screen readers; text to speech etc are
winners
RT @carolrainbow: #ukedchat We are always saying the same - good
mr_chadwick 20:47 tech does not take more time but needs teacher to work differently <
agreed
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a
ianaddison 20:47
pretty good way of moving people one - right teaming is vital
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat Successive US govts throw inc amounts
Tree_Of 20:47 of $ at education but still attainemt/rankings fall. $/Â£ not the
answer
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catherinelane 20:47 VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day
maybe...
@ebd35 You may be a loner. That's my point. *school* isn't moving,
ebd35 20:47
you are. #ukedchat -@dughall But hopefully dragging school with me!
RT @dughall: RT @colport: @janwebb21 Perhaps we need a

john_at_muuua 20:47
pedagogy #ukedchat session? [@TheHeadsOffice ] <- Absolutely
RT @Arakwai: #ukedchat A good mentoring/coaching programme
janwebb21 20:47 within a school can support staff (and school) development if run
well.
@ianaddison love flipcams and flipcam software. Can train reluctant
idletim 20:48
teachers filmed and edited vid in under an hour. #ukedchat
@ianaddison loads of great questioning activities that can quickly fire

staff and kids #ukedchat
RT @SkoorBttaM: @colport I heard the time excuse too- now the

children write the blog post!! #ukedchat >That's the idea -yes?
@john_at_muuua @stevebob79 there's some facts I will throw in to

ianaddison 20:48
my session to trainees on Monday! #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua @ianaddison 'why don't they change it?' they

stevebob79 20:48
asked. Didn't quite know where to start with that one! #ukedchat
@dughall @janwebb21 We'll put pressure on @Natty08 for next

colport 20:48
week ;-) #ukedchat
@missbrownsword Agree, wish we could do more of it though

ICTtower 20:48
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:48 @ianaddison yup - it's #ukedchat not #uktechedchat
RT @innerquest: Perhaps the problem is that we're still engaged in a

Paddymcgrath 20:48 school system from the Victorian era, should we be moving outside
of it #ukedchat
@ianaddison As Roger said, quick fix = team teaching, also modelling,
dughall 20:48
evidencing learning, proving improvement etc #ukedchat
@ianaddison do we need a CPD #ukedchat? but not focussed on

Catriona_O 20:48
tech competence deficit? more on good pedagogy?

JfB57 20:48
discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat >No time to read it ATM!
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RT @innerquest: Perhaps the problem is that we're still engaged in a
john_at_muuua 20:48 school system from the Victorian era, should we be moving outside
of it #ukedchat
@colport Absolutely. KS1 children using using easi-teach
SkoorBttaM 20:48
microphones for their posts though- no-one can escape!! #ukedchat
@colport @dughall #ukedchat@john_at_muuua that was a quick

janwebb21 20:48
response to confirm the topic would be helpful!
@TheHeadsOffice heart is happy with 're-inspired' - much more
sellyeve 20:48 leading through hearts & minds isn't it? Maybe naive again!?
#ukedchat
@ianaddison as with students...small, manageable successes...leave
DrAshCasey 20:48
them hungry for more #ukedchat
Quick win - provide case studies where tech has made difference in
innerquest 20:48
children's lives #ukedchat
@dughall @ianaddison #ukedchat - I think you might like Learning

Catriona_O 20:49
Rounds:http://bit.ly/dorJT8
@colport noooooooooooooooo!!! I won't be here next week!! ;)

janwebb21 20:49
#ukedchat
@catherinelane #ukedchat the tools are there, its down to the

didactylos 20:49
people to create it
RT @colport: @janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat

session? [@TheHeadsOffice ] >*goes to loft for college trunk*
RT @nellmog: @ianaddison not new tools but new ways to think
ZoeRoss19 20:49 about tools i.e. the many uses for powerpoint that DON't involve
bullet points #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:49 @stevebob79 @ianaddison 'they don't, WE do.' #ukedchat
@DrAshCasey I agree- well run & differentiated CPD programme can

Arakwai 20:49 cultivate ethos of change, but individuals engage & run with it.
#ukedchat
@idletim providing oyu have decent software, we have win7 so no
ianaddison 20:49
need to convert the videos! #ukedchat
RT @TheHeadsOffice: @colport HT should 'make' the time available. I

SkoorBttaM 20:49
think 'no time is the worst excuse to make! #ukedchat

foxburg 20:49
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@sellyeve @TheHeadsOffice I don't think that is naive - it's esssential
janwebb21 20:49
for implementing change effectively"! #ukedchat
RT @sellyeve: @TheHeadsOffice for the most part, children are
JfB57 20:49 always interested in IT aren't they? #ukedchat >Absolutely so let
them see it!
@janwebb21 but it alllllways goes towards tech. is it cos we're all
ianaddison 20:49
geeks? #ukedchat
RT @sellyeve: @TheHeadsOffice for the most part, children are
TheHeadsOffice 20:49 always interested in IT aren't they? #ukedchat >Absolutely so let
them see it!
@ianaddison not new tools but new ways to think about tools i.e.
nellmog 20:49 the many uses for powerpoint that DON't involve bullet points
#ukedchat
#ukedchat another stunningly kaleidoscopic one, though is eyeing
didactylos 20:49
study door and listening for the ' Have I got news theme'
So, if 'personalise' CPD for staff, can that help bring schools forward?
ebd35 20:49
#ukedchat@deerwood Think yes as long as focuss on same direction
RT @nellmog: @ianaddison not new tools but new ways to think
janwebb21 20:50 about tools i.e. the many uses for powerpoint that DON't involve
bullet points #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:50 @ianaddison who are you calling a geek!!!! #ukedchat
@ianaddison tutpup is always a goodie for marhs and spelling

idletim 20:50
#ukedchat
@janwebb21 I might not be here either...expecting our first any day

now!!! #ukedchat
@skoorBttaM Ooh, never thought about that for my Year 2 pupils on

colport 20:50
this... http://bit.ly/cWC2Vy #ukedchat
RT @Catriona_O: @ianaddison do we need a CPD #ukedchat? but not

greeninkuk 20:50
focussed on tech competence deficit? more on good pedagogy?
@innerquest where can we get these case studies? should we be

ianaddison 20:50
building them up? we're a big collective now #ukedchat
@jessamacookie I think Ofsted is changing though - ICT important
ebd35 20:50 again - learning important not test results #ukedchat -@carolrainbow
YEA!
Surely grassroots teacher activity and CPD is the cheapest and most
nstone 20:50
effective way to get schools up to speed #ukedchat
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#ukedchat 'Only those who are prepared to go too far can possibly
trees2066 20:50
know how far they can go...' So true with ICT - calcualated risks.
sellyeve 20:50 @janwebb21 :) #ukedchat
@DeputyHeadDunn how exciting!!! Hope all goes well!!! Let us know

janwebb21 20:51
when etc!!!!! ENJOY! (it goes so fast!) #ukedchat
#ukedchat Quick wins: Pick one simple technology and use it
trees2066 20:51 creatively with reluctant staff - e.g. discussions within Maths, PSE, Lit,
MfL.
RT @innerquest: Quick win - provide case studies where tech has
dughall 20:51
made difference in children's lives #ukedchat
@ebd35 #ukedchat - CPD should always be personalised, and always

Catriona_O 20:51
focussed on teacher professional learning
@TheHeadsOffice That would be funny if we all got our college/uni

colport 20:51
stuff out for a #ukedchat session!
#ukedchat@Grevster73 What are laggards? Should every sch have

some?
@ZoeRoss19 what? PPT without bulletpoints? next you'll be banning

ianaddison 20:51
wordart #ukedchat
3 weeks to #TMBristol! And it's on tech in the classroom. Sign up at

MrsThorne 20:51
WWW.teachmeet.org.uk #ukedchat
@ianaddison Probably! I;m still fighting against becoming cynical!

ICTtower 20:51
#ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice Not exactlty. It's the relentless focus on stndrds
dughall 20:51 and a national stdds agenda/league tables that may stifle risk.
#ukedchat
@innerquest i like that idea...i've started collecting some examples of
ianaddison 20:52
web 2 stuff, but might need to revisit it #ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:52 @janwebb21 Thanks...am scared a bit too!!!!! #ukedchat
RT @janwebb21: @colport noooooooooooooooo!!! I won't be here

dughall 20:52
next week!! ;) #ukedchat <- me too!
TheHeadsOffice 20:52 @sellyeve Nai8vity can be inspiring. Not tainted! #ukedchat
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ICTtower 20:52 @janwebb21 I'm PROUD to be a geek! #ukedchat
RT @MrsThorne: 3 weeks to #TMBristol! And it's on tech in the

ianaddison 20:52
classroom. Sign up at WWW.teachmeet.org.uk #ukedchat
@dughall the things we're talking about here have a great positive
sellyeve 20:52
impact on standards though! #ukedchat
@Natty08 There is a real appetite for a pedagogy #ukedchat session -

colport 20:52
and it is you next week ;-)
ianaddison 20:52 @janwebb21 you Mrs Webb! and me of course #ukedchat
RT @Brendano: #ukedchat "Pressing 25 on the photocopier was

john_at_muuua 20:53 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
photocopier rooms! hehe
@trees2066 A good teacher won't need dragging along...and all the
ICT in the world won't make a poor teacher great!! #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:53 @TheHeadsOffice & so much better than cynicism! #ukedchat
@colport @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat - have trouble keeping up at

duckinwales 20:53
the moment - would be a nightmare if all staff got involved ; ) !!!
@Catriona_O @ebd35 cpd should encourage teachers to improve the
DrAshCasey 20:53 learning environment: teachers and students then apply learning
#ukedchat
RT @trees2066: #ukedchat Quick win: Pick 1 simple tech and use it
ianaddison 20:53
creatively with reluctant staff - e.g. discussions within Maths, PSE, Lit,
@DeputyHeadDunn #ukedchat Right to be scared...BUT all will be

caroljallen 20:53
fine - enjoy!
Paddymcgrath 20:53 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
RT @idletim: @ianaddison tutpup is always a goodie for marhs and
dughall 20:53
spelling #ukedchat
@ianaddison I already HAVE banned WordArt! (in my secondary

ICTtower 20:53
classes) #ukedchat
do you feel alone in your area? check the teachmap for others!
ianaddison 20:53
#ukedchat http://bit.ly/teachmap
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RT @ianaddison: what? PPT without bulletpoints? next you'll be
ZoeRoss19 20:53 banning wordart #ukedchat <but leaving in clapping audio on slide
changes
@ICTtower I've come to the conclusion I'm not too good at cynicism!
janwebb21 20:53
I have too much enthusiasm for it all still! #ukedchat
Forget What You Think You Know About How To Study

briankotts 20:53
http://n.pr/beCN4J #edchat #ukedchat
RT @trees2066: #ukedchat 'Only those who are prepared to go too
lisacov19 20:53 far can possibly know how far they can go...' So true with ICT -
calcualated risks.
#ukedchat "Pressing 25 on the photocopier was never the way to
Brendano 20:53 challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school photocopier
rooms! hehe
RT @teachersTV: Poll results: 41% - best to spend pupil premiums on
schoolgoverning 20:54
support staff #TTVdebate #UKedchat #Schoolgoverning
RT @Brendano: #ukedchat "Pressing 25 on the p/copier was never
ianaddison 20:54 the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in sch p/copier
room!
@sellyeve Yes, true. But they often require a leap of faith. Too often
dughall 20:54
a downward spiral of formality and safety can occur. #ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:54 @janwebb21 that's true!! #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:54 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
@innerquest @ianaddison We've tried to start a collection of simple
trees2066 20:54
case studies at http://bit.ly/9DI2vv #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: do you feel alone in your area? check the teachmap

for others! #ukedchat http://bit.ly/teachmap
ianaddison 20:54 @colport you can't have a biggie during half term week! #ukedchat
RT @MrsThorne: 3 weeks to #TMBristol! And it's on tech in the

JfB57 20:54 classroom. Sign up at WWW.teachmeet.org.uk #ukedchat >Hurray!
Sign up!
Pressing 25 on the photocopier was never the way to challenge and
Brendano 20:54
engage kids #ukedchat sometimes the sign lasts whole 2 hours!
DeputyHeadDunn 20:54 @caroljallen Thanks :) #ukedchat
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missbrownsword 20:54 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
@DeputyHeadDunn it is scary! but the most exciting things in life are
janwebb21 20:54
a little scary #ukedchat
JaneWoods3 20:55 the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in sch p/copier
room!
RT @briankotts: Forget What You Think You Know About How To
Tina_Barr 20:55
Study http://n.pr/beCN4J #edchat #ukedchat
@ianaddison @colport maybe would define pedagogy next week and

DrAshCasey 20:55
discuss it the week after? #ukedchat
Inspired children produce excellent results so it's win/win@sellyeve

JfB57 20:55
#ukedchat
Not seen this before. Love it: RT @ianaddison: do you feel alone in
mr_chadwick 20:55
your area? check the teachmap #ukedchat http://bit.ly/teachmap
RT @trees2066: @innerquest @ianaddison We've tried to start a

innerquest 20:55
collection of simple case studies at http://bit.ly/9DI2vv #ukedchat
@DeputyHeadDunn No but reluctant IT users and poor teachers are

trees2066 20:55
two entirely different beasts... #ukedchat
@dughall & that'd squeeze the life out of what you're trying to do
sellyeve 20:55
#ukedchat
Night to #ukedchat terers !brain aches this side of half term - thanks
lisacov19 20:55
again & I'll join in again soon
@ZoeRoss19 obviously, that goes without saying. If you can include

ianaddison 20:55
dark blue text on black backgrounds, extra points #ukedchat
worked with a Lit Consultant this week who made a great flip vi with
idletim 20:55
gruffalo pop up theatre http://amzn.to/aZYREp #ukedchat
dughall 20:55 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
@ICTtower @ianaddison the curse of wordart 3D rainbow... with
john_at_muuua 20:55
shadows! Gods help us! #ukedchat
@Brendano Ha, I love that, I'm making a sign like that tomorrow!
#ukedchat
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@DeputyHeadDunn #ukedchat Agreed BUT there are still students in
caroljallen 20:55
the poor teacher's lessons and we have a duty to support them
perhaps evryone on #ukedchat should go work in a 'behind' school

deerwood 20:55
then, in a short while, there's be no school left behind
@john_at_muuua Ha ha! But try telling that to a Y7 and they look at

ICTtower 20:56
you like you stole their teddy bear! #ukedchat
@ianaddison @ZoeRoss19 don't forget dozens of different transition

duckinwales 20:56
effects ; ) #ukedchat
#ukedchat quick wins for me (for London teachers) often start with
stevebob79 20:56
sharing LGfL resources (www.content.lgfl.net)
Ultimately, if you have the support of SMT & are prepared to work
chrismayoh 20:56 hard & take the odd risk, you can always stay ahead of the game
#ukedchat
trees2066 20:56 the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in sch p/copier
room!
#ukedchat tech not substitute for teaching methods - great
professorclegg 20:56
enhancement
sellyeve 20:56 @JfB57 agreed! #ukedchat
didactylos 20:56 @deerwood #ukedchat or we'd all be sucked into the miasma too......
@mr_chadwick glad you like it! @eyebeams had the simple idea, i
ianaddison 20:56
made a map #ukedchat
idletim 20:56 @dughall also arcademic skills builder http://bit.ly/3KeXyK #ukedchat
@caroljallen Oh absolutely. But it goes further than a 'quick fix'.

#ukedchat
@DrAshCasey no! CPD should progess teacher professional learning!

Catriona_O 20:56
#ukedchat
RT @didactylos: I would highly recommend it RT @simfin: may I offer
ebd35 20:56 my latest blog on learning platforms to the discussion
http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
gregkulowiec 20:56 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
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@Brendano #ukedchat it's not what you do - it's the way that you do
Grevster73 20:56
it! What are the worksheets? How are they being used?
@Nevagonnabslim Not got araound to banning the teachers yet,

ICTtower 20:56
they're scary! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:56 #ukedchat - sorry guys - MUST go - have a good half term, everyone!

alxr1 20:56
dughall 20:57 @sellyeve Yep, but I've seen it with my bare eyes :-( #ukedchat
@deerwood i did that sort of, my sch didn't do anything exciting tech-
ianaddison 20:57 wise,plan on paper etc. now we've had 10K blog views in 6wks
#ukedchat
@dughall Leaps of faith nare much easier holding someone's
JfB57 20:57
hand!@sellyeve #ukedchat
@didactylos oh Roger, you're so negative, I'm sure we're all strong

deerwood 20:57
enough to rise above it! #ukedchat ;)
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison @colport maybe would define

pedagogy next week and discuss it the week after? #ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison @colport maybe would define

Grevster73 20:57
pedagogy next week and discuss it the week after? #ukedchat
RT @professorclegg: #ukedchat tech not substitute for teaching

caroljallen 20:57
methods - great enhancement
@jimbo9848 Absolutely. I think it's fear of the unknown and
ColinGoffin 20:57 manifests in blaming technology for bad behaviour rather than using
it #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:57 yes. a good half term to everyone. do something techy! #ukedchat
RT @JfB57: RT @MrsThorne: 3 weeks to #TMBristol! And it's on tech

TheHeadsOffice 20:57 in the classroom. Sign up at WWW.teachmeet.org.uk #ukedchat
>Hurray! Sign up!
sellyeve 20:58 @JfB57 because..? #ukedchat
RT @JfB57: @dughall Leaps of faith are much easier holding

dughall 20:58
someone's hand! @sellyeve #ukedchat
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mr_chadwick 20:58 Not many in SW, where I am... http://bit.ly/teachmap #ukedchat
RT @mr_chadwick: Not seen this before. Love it: RT @ianaddison:

carneysandoe 20:58 feel alone in your area? check the teachmap #ukedchat
http://bit.ly/teachmap
@ICTtower worst is seeing that on signs outside churches where the
john_at_muuua 20:58
vicar has just discovered wordart. ouch! #ukedchat
right, 2mins left...what are you going to do to help the reluctant

ianaddison 20:58
people n your school/area? #ukedchat
RT @JfB57: @dughall Leaps of faith nare much easier holding

someone's hand!@sellyeve #ukedchat
#ukedchat whole group music tuition can be great for cross curricular
professorclegg 20:58
studies - anyone any thoughts?
RT @deerwood: perhaps evryone on #ukedchat should go work in a
TheHeadsOffice 20:58 'behind' school then, in a short while, there's be no school left
behind>Yay!
SkoorBttaM 20:58 never the way to challenge and engage kids" I put this sign in school
Would love to c more focus on achievement and how 2 enjoy
Tree_Of 20:58
learning, less about results and league tables #ukedchat #eduk
@DrAshCasey It is a huge, and important area. It is up to #ukedchat

colport 20:58
moderators :-)
RT @idletim: worked with a Lit Consultant this week who made a
ianaddison 20:58 great flip vi with gruffalo pop up theatre http://amzn.to/aZYREp
#ukedchat
RT @chrismayoh: Ultimately, if you have the support of SMT & are
TheHeadsOffice 20:59 prepared to work hard & take the odd risk, you can always stay ahead
of the game #ukedchat
Quick win - Use technologies staff already are comfortable with like
trees2066 20:59 Skype within the curriculum: example at http://bit.ly/dsnbkZ
#ukedchat
Would be v grateful if any #ukedchat followers could spare the time 2
chrismayoh 20:59
post a quick hello on a 24-hour old blog. Thanks! http://bit.ly/aB1fpy
#ukedchat WILL be here next week for those of you that need to
ianaddison 20:59
work in your half term holiday...details will be posted soon
RT @duckinwales: @ianaddison @ZoeRoss19 don't forget dozens of

ZoeRoss19 20:59
different transition effects ; ) #ukedchat <oooh - the stuff of dreams :)
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TheHeadsOffice 20:59 @janwebb21 Bye! Have greAT HOLIDAY! #ukedchat
RT @carolrainbow: @ianaddison show them some quick wins - photo

sellyeve 21:00 albums, embedded video, games and forums in the Learning platform
#ukedchat
RT @dughall: RT @JfB57: @dughall Leaps of faith are much easier
Grevster73 21:00
holding someone's hand! @sellyeve #ukedchat
RT @deerwood: perhaps evryone on #ukedchat should go work in a

jimbo9848 21:00
'behind' school then, in a short while, there's be no school left behind
RT @trees2066: Use tech staff already are comfortable with like
ianaddison 21:00 Skype within the curriculum: example at http://bit.ly/dsnbkZ
#ukedchat
a chat over tea & biccies works remarkably well with the most
ZoeRoss19 21:00
reluctant - about nothing to do with tech. #ukedchat
@ianaddison We are trying by offering free CPD in practitioner
DrAshCasey 21:00 research but need to make it sustained and sustainable-a challenge
#ukedchat
@ianaddison show them some quick wins - photo albums, embedded
carolrainbow 21:00
video, games and forums in the Learning platform #ukedchat
#ukedchat pedagogy = to lead the child... Are we going for any

Grevster73 21:00
particular pedagogical approach? Constuctivism? Vygotsky? Bruner?
@ColinGoffin: @jimbo9848 (fear of the unknown & manifests in
Tina_Barr 21:00 blaming technology...) I made a similar observation in #lrnchat today
#ukedchat
RT @nellmog: Share successes and mistakes with other teachers.
sellyeve 21:01
How ever tech confident we are we all still make them #ukedchat
RT @sellyeve: @JfB57 because..? #ukedchat >confidence shared

grows very quickly!
RT @ZoeRoss19: a chat over tea & biccies works remarkably well with
ianaddison 21:01
the most reluctant - about nothing to do with tech. #ukedchat
Share successes and mistakes with other teachers. How ever tech
nellmog 21:01
confident we are we all still make them #ukedchat
right, thanks everyone. I'll be hosting again in a few weeks, but next
ianaddison 21:01 week you have the pleasure of @Natty08 being in charge of
#ukedchat!
@didactylos ooh yes, thanks for the reminder ... cheers all, a great
deerwood 21:01
#ukedchat
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@ianaddison thanks Ian and everyone - very enjoyable again - :-)
carolrainbow 21:02
#ukedchat
Did someone press the buzzer? Great session! Thanks @ianaddison

(AGAIN!) Have a good break all of you #ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 21:02 good one tonight again...thanks all #ukedchat
Definately RT @nellmog Share successes and mistakes with other

jessamacookie 21:02 teachers. How ever tech confident we are we all still make them
#ukedchat
Grevster73 21:02 #ukedchat thanks again. Happy half term.
TheBadgerBloke 21:02 #ukedchat thanks again. Happy half term.
@Catriona_O I was surprised I had got it so wrong. CPD develops and

DrAshCasey 21:02
doesn't just tick boxes #ukedchat
mr_chadwick 21:02 Head spinning after keeping up with #ukedchat Off to watch HIGNFY
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat I don't say everyone must use Twitter,

ianinsheffield 21:02 but its a superb way of getting heads up on areas you could develop
your own CPD
Thank you to @ianaddison for hosting #ukedchat this evening. It is
ukedchat 21:02 half term next week, but join @Natty08 at the same time next
Thursday.
trees2066 21:02 Thanks @ianaddison #ukedchat
#ukedchat quick eg of a quick win flipcam vid produced by a leading

idletim 21:02
lit teacher on a course after 20 minute intro http://bit.ly/cHc3Sj
A few gems in tonight's #ukedchat - off to the photocopier &

duckinwales 21:03
PowerPoint to get the message out to our staff ; ) Night all.
RT @missbrownsword: @ianaddison fabulous host, round of

dughall 21:03
applause #ukedchat
chrismayoh 21:03 Another #ukedchat flies by then...
missbrownsword 21:03 @ianaddison fabulous host, round of applause #ukedchat
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The #ukedchat archive process will start in 15 minutes - The poll for
ukedchat 21:03
next week will soon be live.
RT @ZoeRoss19: a chat over tea & biccies works remarkably well with
nellmog 21:03
the most reluctant. #ukedchat <cupcakes well work too :)
DrAshCasey 21:03 cheers everyone on #ukedchat - it's good to talk
@ianaddison thanks for chairing. Not sure I was totally on track with
Catriona_O 21:03
you all but enjoyed it all the same#ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: @TheHeadsOffice i was asked today if we can have
stevebunce 21:03 a blog for the school choir! I don't even know what they'd do with it!
cool tho #ukedchat
Tweeted this earlier u might find it pertains to convo: How Teachers
carneysandoe 21:03
Think Technology Works Best : http://bit.ly/cbfxaM #ukedchat
@TheHeadsOffice one of the best of reasons to share then

sellyeve 21:03
#ukedchat
@IaninSheffield loner/leader... just know that I and the children!!!

ebd35 21:04
are having fun with OUR learning #ukedchat
Happy half term everyone, hopefully will be around again next week!
jessamacookie 21:04
#ukedchat
ianaddison 21:04 @Catriona_O i don't think i was on track with me either #ukedchat
great discussion - many thanks to all & especially to mod - & have a
sellyeve 21:04
great half term #ukedchat
'moves the #ukedchat column to the right of tweetdeck until next

ianaddison 21:04
week'
@trees2066 @ianaddison Thanks and my goodness this chat is fast!

NickiA10 21:04
How do you keep up? Brilliant ideas! #ukedchat
>agree RT @trees2066: #ukedchat Quick win: Pick 1 simple tech and

idletim 21:04
use it creatively with rel staff - e.g. discussns within Maths, PSE, Lit,

duckinwales 21:04
applause #ukedchat

ZoeRoss19 21:04
applause #ukedchat
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@NickiA10 i was a few mins behind,having a #ukedchat column helps
ianaddison 21:05 as I was also trying to fave tweets as @colport makes me write a
followup!
RT @ianaddison: 'moves the #ukedchat column to the right of
tweetdeck until next week' >Absolutely! Thanks Sir!
@ianaddison lol! ever since someone mentioned wild horses being

Catriona_O 21:05
unleashed, that how I think of #ukedchat now!
@ianaddison Thanks for an excellent #ukedchat all. Have a fab half

Arakwai 21:05
term :-)
RT @chrismayoh: Would be v grateful if any #ukedchat followers
ZoeRoss19 21:05 could post a quick hello on a 24-hour old blog. Thanks!
http://bit.ly/aB1fpy
idletim 21:05
never the way to challenge and engage kids" Genius
glad I caught the end of #ukedchat this week great session and not
nellmog 21:05
been for weeks

mr_chadwick 21:05
applause #ukedchat < *claps*
RT @Brendano: "Pressing 25 on the photocopier was never the way
ebd35 21:06 to challenge and engage kids" #ukedchat sometimes the sign lasts
whole 2 hours!
innerquest 21:06 Goodnight all, and thanks for the effective facilitation! : ) #ukedchat
#ukedchat enjoy half-term everyone....I used to get one of those but

DrAshCasey 21:07
not any more...
RT @Brendano: "Pressing 25 on the photocopier was never the way
ICanTeach_uk 21:11 to challenge and engage kids" #ukedchat sometimes the sign lasts
whole 2 hours!
Humour in the classroom can be used very effectively within learning.
Tree_Of 21:11
Sadly, many use it totally inappropriately #eduk #ukedchat
Another great choice of choices for #ukedchat next Thursday, hosted

colport 21:12
by @Natty08. Vote here http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ ~Now live.
Here it is again... (new post coming tomorrow): A 21st Century School

leeandrewdunn 21:12
Part 2 â€“ The Need for Change: http://t.co/GvGXHI4 #ukedchat
Another great choice of choices for #ukedchat next Thursday, hosted

ukedchat 21:12
by @Natty08. Vote here http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ ~Now live.
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RT @chrismayoh: Another #ukedchat flies by then...> I agree- arrived
greeninkuk 21:12
late and just managed to catch up lol! Great discussion.
RT @ukedchat Another great choice of choices for #ukedchat next
ianaddison 21:13 Thursday, hosted by @Natty08. Vote here http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ ~Now
live.
RT @ianaddison: RT @ukedchat Another great choice of choices for
sellyeve 21:14 #ukedchat next Thursday, hosted by @Natty08. Vote here
http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ ~Now live.
Looking 1 sidedRT @ukedchat: Another great choice of choices for
chris_1974 21:14 #ukedchat next Thursday, hosted by @Natty08. Vote here
http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ
RT @Tree_Of: Humour in the classroom can be used very effectively
mooshtang 21:14
within learning. Sadly, many use it inappropriately #eduk #ukedchat
RT @Tree_Of: Would love to c more focus on achievement and how
mooshtang 21:15 2 enjoy learning, less about results and league tables #ukedchat
#eduk
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#ukedchat tonight's topic 'How to get 'behind the times' schools

ianaddison 20:00 Ok...you ready? here goes...#ukedchat

MissSMitch 20:01 what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat

MissSMitch 20:02 @ianaddison thanks! #ukedchat

RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat

key thing is what do we mean? what if a school is outstanding, but

#ukedchat is real and meaningful change a quick thing? Surely it's an

#ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up to speed. It could

chrismayoh 20:04 Already 4 mins behind. No chance of catching up now! #ukedchat

dughall 20:04 @ianaddison So, does techy = good? #ukedchat

#ukedchat behind the times to me is not paying any attention to all

@Laura_987 no she was described by someone I know who works

Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select an appropriate set

perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god called

Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the times -

dughall 20:06 @jimbo9848 BACTA LOL :-) #ukedchat

RT @ianaddison: RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the

@dughall I'm sure you're playing devil's advocate there!! not

@TheHeadsOffice outstanding is all about sats levels, we got great

@innerquest I agree tech should enhance good practice not replace it

#ukedchat I think to become more techy, a staff need inspired

Some staff so used to seeing things go full circle, initiative after

deerwood 20:08 @squiggle7 @JfB57 I don't charge a lot! #ukedchat

@ICanTeach_uk possiblly. but how long before twitter is last year's

RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up to

RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god

deerwood 20:08 @didactylos fair point #ukedchat

RT @ICanTeach_uk: Lanyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the

@squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive environment to start with.

janwebb21 20:08 @dughall didn't think it sounded like you!!! #ukedchat

@deerwood #ukedchat don't mind if there's a debate about it, its

Surely keeping ahead is just about realistic self-evaluation. It comes

@TeachersTV you want to know what teachers think? join #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:09 @cleverfiend selective innovation #ukedchat

RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 but many schools don't have the positive

@cleverfiend absolutely - measured approach where one/two try

@JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started using twitter

indeed RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you

RT @ianaddison: outstanding is all about sats levels, we got great

@dughall depends on inspector. at my old school he said i'd love to

RT @duckinwales: @squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive

@ianaddison Did he really mean 'results' though? Or maybe CVA or

squiggle7 20:12 @TheHeadsOffice HT makes so much difference I agree! #ukedchat

@squiggle7 @JfB57 #ukedchat - me too, have just put #tmhhs on my

outstanding SEN schools don't fit this RT @ianaddison: outstanding all

RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you teach

ianaddison 20:12 @dughall well yeah...that can be next week's #ukedchat

Been off Twitter for a couple of weeks. Thought #ukedchat would be

great list of links to open source #elearning tools http://bit.ly/btOh3d

@mr_chadwick haha there's still time to catch up and join in to

RT @deerwood: RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech

#ukedchat the 'mantra' we don't have time is a killer - its similar to I

RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG

@ianaddison @didactylos managing the change is SO important but

RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started

RT @didactylos: @ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model

@ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous personal learning

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of

Isn't accountability a big part of this debate? Why's it so difficult to

@stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison is that in terms of using ICT or

@janwebb21#ukedchat and sometimes challenge the status quo at a

janwebb21 20:16 @ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat by playing catchup!

Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as @mister_jim

Leadership is essential without SMT buy-in, change & movement is

RT @SkoorBttaM: RT @dughall: Leadership is essential without

RT @dughall: Leadership is essential without SMT buy-in, change &