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I would really like to know your thoughts/ experience about the difference between the
configuration +NN-NN+ & +-+-+-+- ? The latter seems to generate more HHO liters per minute
but draws more amps, is that right or what's the story?
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Parallel Plates (Unipolar)
Alternating + - + - creates a parallel circuit. Each plate is wired to the 12 volt battery, or an
extended 12 volt connection. The batteries 12 volts can be measured between any two plates that
are facing each other. In other words, 12 volts is dropped across each set of plates. The following
examples are parallel plate arrangements; every plate is either positive of negative:

When electrical current (amps) passes between parallel plates, it divides if there are more than one
set. For example, If two sets of + - plates are wired to the battery, the electrons have two paths to
take; If the plates are all the same size, and spaced the same distance apart, the amperage would
be divided equally by 2; half would travel through one set, and half through the other. So in this
example, if 10 amps is being drawn from the battery, 5 amps could be measured passing through
each set of plates. I hope you are with me so far because it gets a little more complicated when
both sets of plates are equally spaced from each other.

Close observation of + - + - shows three water areas + space - space + space - . I represented
"space" as the water areas. If 10 amps of current is being drawn, it would be traveling in 3 paths,
thus divided 3 times. So, each set of plates has only 3.333 amps passing through it.
Cell Configurator Adding Neutral Plates (Bipolar)
When Neutrals are introduced + space N space - The same amount of current travels through each
Amperage water area. Voltage is applied to only the end plates, positive and negative. The neutral plates
actually cause a voltage drop. Each neutral cuts the applied voltage in half. It does this because it
Bob Boyce changes the resistance, and spacing between positive and negative; which in turn changes the
electrical pressure between neutral and positive and neutral and negative. If you measure voltage
Browns Gas from the positive plate to the negative plate, the reading will be 12 volts of electrical pressure. But
if you measure from the neutral plate to either positive or negative, the reading will be 6 volts of
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electrical pressure. So neutral plates are an effective way of lowering the plate voltage.

Buying a Cell In a 12 volt system, using this configuration of one neutral, the voltage drop between two adjacent
plates would be 6 volts. You have 2 water areas, 12 volts divided by 2 equals 6 volts. Don't take my
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HHO Pressure Test In effect, Neutrals drop the voltage to the plates. Lower voltage means less heat. Ideally 1.25 volts
is capable of making the most HHO with the least amount of excess heat. Each Neutral plate has a
HHO --- Why ? positive side and a negative, or should I say a more positive side and a more negative side. That is
why you can measure a voltage drop between them.
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Electrical current, takes the same path as Parallel plates, but it must also pass through the
Hydrogen neutrals. Here is an example comparing neutral and parallel:

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Questions Using Neutrals creates a Series circuit. +space n space n space -

The following would be a Series Parallel circuit: -NN+NN-
Safety We have 12 volts Negative applied to two plates, and one Positive applied between them, That is a
parallel arrangement. Amperage has to paths to take. However there are Neutrals in series between
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each positive and negative. Thus series parallel.
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What does all of this mean! It is all brute force electrolysis. But neutrals allow you to lower the
operating voltage to each plate, for better efficiency, yet have the same amount of current passing
through each plate. The neutrals can provide additional surface area for HHO production as well as
lower the heat.

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There is a trick to making the plates more efficient. You must keep the water from leaking around
the edges of the plates. You have to seal the bottom, the sides, and the tops so that current can not
find its way through the water, around or under the plates. If it does, the electron flow can bypass
the plate surface by jumping across the water anywhere there are sharp or protruding edges. That
is Yule Browns theory, which is also suggested by Bob Boyce.

Amperage and Ohms Law

Current flow, in an electrical circuit, is Directly proportional to the applied voltage and Inversely
proportional to the circuit resistance. That means, If voltage increases, current flow will increase;
as long as Resistance remains the same. If Voltage decreases, current flow will decrease; as long as
resistance remains the same. In our cell technology, the water is our resistance and it changes with
plate spacing. It directly determines how many amps of current our cell will draw. The closer our
plates are, the less water there is between them; the lower our resistance will be. The hotter our
water is, the less resistance there will be. The more electrolytes we add, the less resistance there
will be. Neutral plates cause more resistance ..... because there is more water between the positive
and negative plates, thus we end up adding more quantities of electrolyte in order to get the water
to pass electron flow from plate to plate. The type of metals we use for plates also affects
resistance, but I will not go there right now.

Parallel (Unipolar) vs. Series (Bipolar)

Both use brute force electrolysis. Both can be configured to produce large or small quantities of
HHO. Both can be configured to reduce heat. Both can be configured efficiently. Stan Meyer used
high voltage and low current, produced by special electronics, along with Tubes for plates,
configured in a parallel arrangement. He believed that tubes produce 2.75 times more HHO than
flat plates. Bob Boyce uses Series configurations. He uses large numbers of neutral plates to reduce
high voltage to 3 volts per water area between plates, to produce large quantities of HHO, without
special electronics.

The verdict; which is better

It all boils down to the power source. What do you have? How can you best use it? How much room
do you have for a Cell (Hydrogen Oxygen Generator)? Do you make short commutes, long trips, or
both? In most cases, the Series and Series Parallel Dry Cells are used the most in automobiles. The
reason.... a low voltage 13.5 Alternator powers the electronics. If you have the knowledge, and the
finances, to use high voltage DC to AC Inverters.... and you have the room to accommodate the
hardware....and the electronics....you can...I say can....build a system large enough to ...Run your
vehicle on Water. Stan Meyer did it; Bob Boyce says he did it and the men in Black made him stop;
and Fast Freddy; Frederic Woods, well he is not nicknamed Fast for nothing.

Do more neutral plates equal less heat? If so, is that the only reason for having more plates?

Electrolysis is most efficient using 1.25 volts as a power source. That is, 1.25 volts applied to the
positive and negative plates. Your vehicle is using 12 volts, actually 13.5 to 14.5 volts. Every thing
above 1.25 volts creates excess heat as it increase HHO production. If you put a plate between a
positive and negative, and measure the voltage from it to positive, it will be exactly half of the
applied voltage; same goes for measuring to the negative. You are actually measuring a voltage
"drop". Keep in mind, the lower the voltage, the less heat. So now bring on your 12 volt battery.
With 1 neutral you will have 6 volts between each plate. With 2 neutrals you will have 4 volts
between each plate. With 3 neutrals you will have 3 volts; and so on.

We associate the water space between two plates as a cell if and only if the water is isolated so that
it can not get around, under, or over the top of the plates. What you have is a "Battery". If you
apply 12volts dc to the two outer plates, and it draws 1 amp of current, that means 1 amp of
current is flowing from the negative, through each neutral, to the positive. So what you are doing
with the neutrals is reducing the voltage between each cell yet allowing the same amount of
current to pass through each cell. Neutrals lower the plate voltage. Neutral plates have a positive
side and a negative side, even though a wire is not attached to them. You add neutrals to lower the
voltage - to improve electrolysis efficiency - which in turn reduces heat.

Bob Boyce says 3 square inches on each plate will accommodate 1 amp of current efficiently. 6
square inches, 2 amps; and so on. That pertains to surface area that is covered with water.
However, Faraday says one square inch can accommodate 1/2 amp. Take your pick, both are good.

Number of Plates : References the difference in efficiency comparing cells with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 plates
in Series. A chart shows the required amperage needed to produce 1 LPM of HHO -- for each cell plate configuration.
It also shows the plate voltage, and Current Density needed for Continuous operation.

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