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Committee on Health and Demography
Joint with the Committee on Finance
Wednesday, February 6, 2019
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ATTENDANCE
SENATORS:
RESOURCE PERSONS:
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AT 1:10 P.M., HON. JOSEPH VICTOR
“JV" G. EJERCITO, CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND DEMOGRAPHY,
CALLED THE HEARING TO ORDER.
Before we start, we will just wait for the other senators to come
public hearing.
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Agnes Mandap, Acting Director of Compliance Service of Philippine Drug
Enforcement Agency.
Dr. Gem Mutia and Dr. Angel Joaquin Magalona Gomez of the Philippine
Thank you.
Secretary.
in the medical, and then the individuals. Okay. Likewise, hopefully, our
Senate President will also be joining us after the plenary session of the
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Commission on Appointments because as we know that he is very much
Thank you.
medical purposes.”
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Again, for an orderly conduct of today’s hearing, we will proceed
first with our government representatives, the medical experts, and then
former Senate President and a very good lawyer is here, his insights will
No. 6517, entitled “An Act Providing Compassionate and Right of Access
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to Medical Cannabis and Expanding Research into Its Medicinal
exemptions from civil and criminal liabilities for qualified dispensers and
research on the medical use of the drug and delineates regulatory roles
support claims for its efficacy for a wide range of conditions, however,
are still insufficient. The evidence is still mixed whether the harmful
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Administration or FDA approved and regulated medications. And we will
products indicated for such. To address this concern, the DOH supports
medical cannabis in its raw, herbal, or plant form because such forms
research and compassionate use, however, the DOH does not oppose
efficacy as well as comply with other existing FDA rules and regulations.
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Moreover, AO No. 172 of 2004 which provides for the guidelines
The fresh plant material for which has not undergone any process
undergo in order to extract its active ingredient that has the medicinal
property. Likewise, the fresh plant material does not fall under the
ethnological literature.
Given the absence of both local scientific data and sparse rigorous
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and safe.
to manage and implement research for the herbal drug development for
in place.
for research would entail collaboration among concerned DOH units such
as FDA and PITAHC, also DOST, the Dangerous Drugs Board, and the
and compassionate use, Section 16 of the Dangerous Drugs Act and its
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the creation of new types of medicine, the Board shall prescribe the
medical use as well as its use in accordance with regulations already set
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chemical.”
health effects of both acute and chronic use of cannabis use, such as
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require a high level of security that is within the expertise of the DDB,
and not the DOH. Prescription and dispensation of medical cannabis for
FDA and the DDB, and only through a special S-license issued by PDEA.
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medical cannabis should take into consideration its health benefits and
medical cannabis.
proposed bill.
Rolando Domigo.
you are in favor of the research, continuous studies and research. And
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MR. DOMINGO. Yes, Mr. Chair, we believe that there are already
existing regulations that address the regulatory needs. And if it’s for
research, definitely not in the raw or platform, but only the extracted
medicinal substance.
make it clear also that this hearing would also be strictly for medicinal,
to hear if it will prolong the life, if it will relieve the pain, why not? But,
Lock, probably your agency’s position regarding this measure from the
House.
to the DOH, and it’s already consolidated in the position paper read by
already?
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Thank you.
May existing na ho ba tayo that you allowed? And can you please
recently one was approved for the use of Epidiolex or cannabidiol, and
the doctor is here, Dr. Rhea Salonga-Quimpo is the doctor of the patient.
SEN. BINAY. Since only apat lang naman, can you cite—
pa?
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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Yes, we will just finish all the
resource persons.
possible, we want to hear all of the experts and all the other agencies.
Mendoza. Is she here? No, she is not here. So, probably—Yes, ma’am.
that’s good. At least we save time. Kaya pala ang haba nang binasa
ninyo, Usec.
Thank you.
position.
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position.
MR. CUY. Yes, sir. Your Honor, ladies and gentlemen, good
afternoon.
Usec Domingo of Republic Act 9165 already provides among others, that
dangerous drugs for medical experiments and research purposes or for the
creation of new types of medicine with the statutory mandate for the DDB
and materials.
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wherein the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency or PDEA was given the
chemical.
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carried out satisfactorily without the use of the specified dangerous drugs
medical or scientific research and laboratory use is allowed under the law
which was enacted in 2002 and relevant rules or regulations issued by the
Board, the primary monitoring body for the implementation of the United
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treatment of any disease and that the use thereof may cause more harm
to the advantages vis-à-vis the risk involved in using cannabis for medical
the Department of Health which is one of the member agency of the Board
So, anyway, that will be also one of the things that we have to
stress. Just in case it will be allowed that measures and safeguards will
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stricter safeguards to make sure that it will be really for medical use, just
in case.
UP-PGH.
And then after her Dr. Leonor Cabral-Lim, also of PGH; then Agnes
Mandap of PDEA; and then Dr. Jose Santiago of the Philippine Medical
Thank you.
In the interest of time, I will first present briefly the medical evidence
that we have available. So, when we talk about medical evidence, it’s
not merely the presence of evidence because we know that there are
look at the quality of evidence. And when drugs are approved it is because
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that could include any form of the plant. So, what is important to note is
And just this, I am just presenting the two major varieties. And depending
main area of concern really is drug resistant seizures or seizures that are
patients would have hundreds of seizures per day. And in this clinical trial,
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last year, cannabidiol was actually approved via Fast Track by the USFDA.
So, this was the medication, Epidiolex that Usec Domingo said was
study done by world experts on pediatric epilepsy and adult epilepsy. So,
this is recognized…/admasicap/jmb
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swears that with the cannabis—I don’t know how she gets it—she
every time she is here—That’s why she is pushing me. Before kasi,
nagkaka-attacks siya every night. But now, every time she has that, na
kung nakakakuha siya noong medical cannabis, wala daw iyong seizure.
SEN. BINAY. But it’s not a treatment, right? It just lessens the
attacks.
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product. It’s not just an ordinary like extract of cannabis. It’s 98 percent
and, unfortunately, we still don’t have local data. Our medical societies
one per 40,000. And if we extrapolate that, it’s probably around 2,500
17,500 Filipinos with these two syndromes. But I put here plus a total
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of 20,000 because there maybe 30 percent of those who may not have
epilepsies.
seizure free, not just reduction, so the response rates here—I’m quoting
it’s quite a small population of patients that we’re looking at, at least,
which is particularly the one that’s burdensome in MS. And the other
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efficacy and this is quoting from the systematic review done by the
reduction of central pain and painful spasms. But these are the extracts
control trials. All studies were just of short duration. There was one study
clinical trial data because of the small populations and some result
subject to bias.
know, it’s being looked at for palliative care, and I won’t bother you with
this very long tables. But suffice it to say, that when they compared
opiate medications.
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studies showed mix result. The most recent one is a systematic review
and meta analysis, again in palliative medicine, where they found that
for decreasing pain and for sleep problems. So these are what we have
epilepsy and multiple sclerosis. For the others, there is some suggestion
that it might be effective but we don’t have the good clinical trial
evidences available.
forms. So the ones in blue here are already the medicinal products,
actually, this have been approved in other countries such as the US for
cannabidiol and THC, has been approved in some countries for the
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the most recent was last year was Epidiolex which was approved by the
pharmacists how many percent of CBD, how many THC they will put in,
and then standardized cannabis which are artisanal oils. So that’s why
the studies are not that good because the preparations vary from study
while to wait.
consider.
And I think a lot of our statements really rely on what is available out
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Cannabis, we state that we recognize that there are some patients who
mechanisms that will allow access to cannabis for medical use, for
And mind you, it was quite a quick approval. It was only January
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requirements from FDA for application for medical compassionate use for
Epidiolex po.
available po.
iyong first po. And, of course, because it’s illegal here, ma’am, so we
really have high interest in getting this into the country, we have
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SEN. BINAY. Siguro, Mr. Chair, since we’re pressed for time, can I
just request the FDA to submit to the Committee the process? Kunwari,
medicine?
Senator Binay.
po.
ongoing studies or research from UP-PGH? Wala ano, kasi wala pa kayo
studies.
proposing since last year to form a medical Cannabis study group at the
terms.
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US$25,000.
specialized but we know for a fact that medications are usually more
it’s usually a lower cost. Actually, Dra. Cabral-Lim can probably tell you
later that she has been trying to contact the pharmaceutical that
access to it.
process, para ho iyong inyong request so that they can already use it for
and the Department of Health are agreed that we do not need a new
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research purposes.
countries and globally who has actually legalized medical Cannabis. And
United States because these are the first ones who legalized it and then
I have recent data from Canada. And then the other countries I don’t
have. I think they’re still in the process because what is ironic here is
that these countries have legalized Cannabis without any data as to the
efficacy and safety. And now they are looking into the efficacy and safety
while at the same time this is being given to the patients. That is
data are data from medical Cannabis legalization but there are just a few
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that the studies cannot sort out medical versus recreational. But, of
few countries that legalize recreational use. And despite the global
Cannabis legalization all over the world is actually through the ballot and
references in this PowerPoint. In the interest of time, I will just read the
summary.
the decreased perception of risk especially among the youth who are the
most vulnerable and who are the most frequent users, the youth and the
young adults.
later the ones where I cannot tell whether it’s pure, okay.
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use. In fact, there are studies stating that substance abusers, actually a
use.
Cannabis from butane on their own and they have fires and accidents.
recreational use and health harms. So, for every 1 percent point increase
Hospital, there will be 500 to 600 patients among the youths who will use
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7 percent.
much informed consent is required but I saw a form wherein if you write
the informed consent, I don’t think the patient will take it because if you
present the evidence and the harms and explain it to the patient, which
actually will be our responsibility now because of the Mental Health Law
that all of us are required to give informed consent to our patients before
we give any form of treatment, I don’t think any patient knowing the
legalizes the opening of medical dispensaries and then the physicians will
if you review the different bills globally, they are quite similar but you can
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only pick out the ones with the evidence and what we have now. For
spasticity and epilepsy and multiple sclerosis. And regarding pain, the
Pain Society of the Philippines has enough data saying there is really no
evidence for pain now. And pain is a very difficult symptom. . . (nam/trs)
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have relief now, then I feel better, then I keep on getting the pain relief
and, of course, because Cannabis affects the reward system, I will start
is chronically ill, you will just keep on looking for it. It is no problem if
give a drug to a patient if it is proven effective and safe. But we all know
has no side effect. In fact, if you look at our PIMS, when the patient
reached all the adverse effects, they tell us, “How can I take this, it’s all
side effects?” And we assure them that, “We know the side effects, but
we will take care of you. We’ll follow you up.” But of course, with the
knowledge gap na, we cannot tell that for Cannabis. We cannot even
educate our students what is the knowledge that we’re going to teach
you.
Tobacco, Alcohol and Drugs Survey. So there are about 9.5 percent
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type, this is already the data where it is mixed but, of course, Cannabis
are young, they use other illicit drugs, and at least one of three classes
daily cigarette smokers and heavy drinkers. And there’s also evidence
showing that Cannabis use increases the risk of substance use of any
defined medical and non-medical use include: worst general and mental
health. We believe that this bill is contrary to the mental health bill. I
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percent of the youth. Because once you legalize something, the youth
starts to perceive it as safe. For example, how can you prevent your
teenage children of taking Cannabis when they tell you that, “Well, the
then driving rates, 27 percent of those who use Cannabis in the United
So I—
you short, but we’re pressed for time. But probably if you may
Manila and the Department of Health and DDB that there is no need for
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endanger the health and safety of our citizens. And we stand by the
effective way to ensure the safety, efficacy and purity of medications for
Service of PDEA. And last on the left side, so ito iyong mga against, Dr.
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the PDEA Compliance Service has not received a single application for
the import of a Cannabis-based product for the past several years armed
PDEA?
SEN. BINAY. Mr. Chair, kasi baka nasa FDA pa. Nasa FDA pa
lang.
sustain the statements made by Usec Domingo, Dr. Quimpo and Dr.
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affiliate societies.
So, Your Honor, I would like to read the unified position statement
based on the proven efficacy and safety in order to safeguard the best
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sclerosis.
We have just recently passed the Mental Health Law, and I would like to
Binay for their support on this Mental Health Law, which promotes the
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The HB 6517 is contrary to the policy of the State to safeguard the well-
harm to the healthy, with no guaranteed cure for the sick. Cannabis is
one of the most widely cultivated, trafficked and abused illicit drug and
mental disorders.
common good.
medical profession and I hope we could send the message loud and clear
Binay.
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Santiago.
House bill.
And we will go into that later, how come it is so hard or too difficult to
Okay.
lessen the process or expedite the process on how to obtain the drugs.
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position.
Dr. Santiago.
Binay.
But before you continue, then next probably Chuck Manansala and
the others para lang you will be ready. And probably we’d like to hear
from Dr. Reyes before we go to the others after Mr. Manansala because
Congressman Rodito Albano of this House bill. So, we’ll hear from her
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present.
prescriptions.
of 5 to 10 times per day or 50 per week. Every time he will have his
seizures, we can only watch in grief, praying for his seizures to stop
lethargy and mood swings but we keep him in those medications with
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Sachi was also in ICU due to status epilepticus with seizures that
lasted for 45 minutes. He was intubated and that was the time when we
thought he’s going and he’s gone. He recovered after five days and so
entitled WEED. Dr. Gupta had also his reservations on the benefit of
medical Cannabis, however he later apologized for he said he did not dig
As a parent, you will seek for all possible options that will improve
opportunity to grow and enjoy what a kid his age should experience and
confinement for several days, was able to get a discharge order only to
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seizures.
This has been our journey in the last 12 years. Other than the
Sachi will be there the next day is always our biggest fear. It also
changed the dynamics of our family as most of our days are evolving
around him. And there are times when I almost want to give up as a
mother. I am always reminded that when Sachi was hanging on for his
dear life when he had status epilepticus, like a fish out of a fish bowl, he
that is safe and affordable; and to kindly consider House Bill 6517
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who are really in dire need and are racing against time.
that’s why we are hearing this measure, we’re trying to find ways on
how we will be able to relieve and probably relieve conditions like this.
But why do you—anyway, we’ll ask questions later. We’ll just finish the
for this.
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law since 2014. And sadly, many of our members have passed away
without seeing the advent of medicine that could have made their lives
PCCS highly supports House Bill 6517 for the following reasons:
human right. It is our right to health. And Filipinos have the right to
House Bill 6517 will only allow qualified patients with debilitating
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The qualified patients must have a bona fide relationship with his
physician. Meaning that the patient and the physician have a continuing
relief for patients suffering from chronic pain, cancer, seizure disorders,
and many diseases require admission to hospice care. It will only allow
what Dr. Quimpo has been telling in the Committee. But, Your Honor, I
was declined. And also I am not as rich maybe of one of the patients of
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Cunanan.
Anyway, I just like to ask, saan ho kayo nag-apply? Did you apply
already sa FDA?
MS. CUNANAN. Two to three years ago po. Around two to three
years ago.
Disapproved.
the application of the CSP. But unfortunately, I went to FDA around two
to three times. And then they don’t have a very, very specific IRR for
time, I was informed, Your Honor, that it will be processed and it will
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later on.
Likewise, the Chair would like to inform all of you that this will be
the last week of our session before we go on break for the campaign
of that drug.
VOICES. Yes.
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requirements for FDA for compassionate use, like any other drug,
country of origin.
iyong cost.
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Improvement that the efficacy, kung na-prove na natin lahat. Would you
recommend?
dito sa Philippines.
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pre-clinical pa po.
Senator Binay, like me, marami na ngayon kasing ganito ang situation
who are already helpless. Iba rin iyong pakiramdam na nakikita mong
iyong unang hakbang. So how do we start the process? Kasi nga, hindi
ba, kumbaga may buhay tayo na hinahabol. So I guess iyon din iyong
saying that there is already a process in place for them to avail. Kaso
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research.
agency heads already that basta lang ho may process that you will apply,
and then probably they will process as long as there is basis. Siguro if
SEN. BINAY. Siguro, Mr. Chair, ang nagiging isang problema din
Institute of Health would like to create a working study group for this.
ano--
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research?
research. Matagal na ho iyon. In 2017, they spent $140 million for the
research. Over the years, ang lumabas lang ho nilang data, there is a
certain variety that might be effective for pain. Hindi ho iyong Epidiolex
kasi plant iyong kanila. But ang sinasabi nila is this is not the variety
that is available in all the dispensaries in the United States. And then,
I think the one that is being applied was an extract with no evidence of
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marijuana kaya tinawag na pot, madali hong itanim iyan. Pero ang
expensive.
that’s good if we can do that right away. Pero halimbawa pong ma-
reschedule natin iyong certain forms, like with the very low cannabidiol
you will look at the patients, kasi hindi naman natin pwedeng sabihin
unethical iyong isang grupo walang Cannabis, iyong isa mayroon, kasi
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We have a 20, 30 percent there who are difficult to treat. And globally
amin din ho, mahirap din hong tanggapin na being specialist, we still
have a gap out there. Pero at the same time, obligasyon naman ho
they stop the medications then they take the ampalaya. So if you
legalize, these patients with epilepsy can even think na, “Oh, mas mura
iyan, bibili na lang ako ng capsule sa dispensary kasi mas mura and then
iinumin ko.” Wala hong data sa mga epilepsy na easy to treat. Kaya
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to cut you but we only have less than 20 minutes and we still have four.
the other side, siguro, please, quickly na lang ho so that we can all hear
your positions.
Mr. Chuck Manansala, and then Dr. Quijano, Dr. Reyes, doon po
good afternoon, Senator Binay, and all the other stakeholders in this
develop Cannabis medicine in finished dosage form that will pass the
We fully support all efforts to promote medical Cannabis and uphold the
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Act as a step in the right direction. It creates a legal framework and the
celebration among the hopefuls. For instance—it is an old data but Dr.
750,000 Filipinos with epilepsy in the country but their estimate is about
98,000 Filipinos are diagnosed with cancer each year, with 59,000 of
we clarify that having a law is just the start of a long and arduous
process of seeking approval from the FDA before the medicine becomes
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auspicious that the Dangerous Drugs Board (DDB) has already issued
the guideline under which Masikhay and other research centers can
cultivate local Cannabis strains to lay the scientific basis and good
prescription, dispensing and sale of, and other lawful acts in connection
and other similar or analogous substances and shall operate under the
to prevent illicit traffic and abuse. In fact, we do hope that the final
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version of the bill does not become too restrictive and makes it very
year or roughly $2,708 a month, $677 a week and $96 a day. The good
Doctor Cabral cited specific data coming from the US and Canada. I
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MR. MANANSALA. ...I submit that this is not applicable in the
Philippines. Because in Canada and the US, patients are allowed to use
qualified physician.
Cannabis but we have been overtaken by two East Asian countries. Last
year, South Korea and Thailand amended their narcotic laws and
properly enter into the international Cannabis market which has been
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We have the opportunity for the Philippines to assert a leading role
positive action from the Senate, we are simply being true to our nature.
Manansala.
ano? We’ll go back to you also, Dr. Gem. Probably, Dr. Reyes, after.
Siguro si Dr. Gem Mutia and then I’ll go to Dr. Reyes, then we’ll go back
to the others.
So, I’m just here to educate a little bit everyone that the reason
Cannabis—
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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Dr. Mutia, you are a doctor
of medicine?
because there are cannabinoids inside all mammals right now. They are
system because it’s actually a receptor system all over the body. I
mentioned this because I agree with Dr. Cabral-Lim that doctors do not
licensed just six years ago and Cannabis is not studied as a medicine.
system is very vital in health and in disease and we are not studying it
as of the moment.
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Just to summarize again the normal physiological functions of
Next po.
Ngayon po, this is very recent review, 2018, systematic review from the
evidence for pain, for muscles spasticity and multiple sclerosis, and
So it’s not that there is no evidence, it’s just that the research is
not that—Because again, just what Dr. Quimpo said, not all research is
the same. The weight of the evidence, it differs. But there are other
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So, again, that’s for the therapeutic indications. Next, this is the
side effects. What harms does Cannabis cause? So, kanina ang usapan
But we totally agree with the example cited kanina, it does cause lack
don’t expect cancer patients and epileptic children to drive vehicles and
there—
can we prevent?
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MR. MUTIA. Well, just to show you—next slide po. Ayan po,
MR. MUTIA. Yes po. But then again, kung titingnan ninyo po sa
side ng mga may high blood, diabetes, these are chronic conditions,
really need to take them. Lahat ba ng may high blood and diabetes—
sa may left, iyong mga pain medications po. Iyong iba pang mga
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Cannabis. And iyong nasa right po, iyong figures pong iyan, iyong
hindi ang pinakatanyag na doctor sa Pinas, Dr. Jose Rizal. Siya po ang
at that time, he opened his mind and actually kind of pioneered research.
time po, it already opened the mind of the most famous physician of the
country.
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before pa iyong mga mas toxic po na maraming side effects, and safer,
Dr. Reyes, we would like to hear the position of the main author of
Ma’am.
Senator Binay.
Finally, after four years of hard work and sustained advocacy, the
Representative Rodolfo Albano III has reached the Senate. HB 6517 has
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DOH, by DDB, and by PDEA. They were consulted all throughout the
process of crafting this bill, and we thought they were already in our
talked to four DOH secretaries, and this is the fourth. And may I advise
compassionate centers. We agree with you that these will strain and
rights lawyers, with patients. So, it’s not like it’s only now that we are
while PDEA shall have a key role in monitoring and regulating the
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shall identify specific areas for the cultivation of medical Cannabis and
System.
120 days from the approval of the Act, the DOH shall authorize the
standard” research abroad that uses FDA clinical trial design such as
ought to be the “first line treatment” for patients with neuropathy and
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from the doctors that you have here, we have also in the U.S. in 2014,
stimulate appetite.
I know that you are very, very much in a hurry, Senator Ejercito.
Now, HB 6517 has tried to cover all bases that are controversial to
some, but not too many. So I don’t understand this, you know, repeat,
repeat, repeat, repeat these arguments. I’ve heard this one thousand
and a million times. We hope that the Senate will find our bill acceptable
marijuana.
Salamat po.
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She was one of my very first teachers in the majors when she was
head of the Political Science Department a few years ago, about 1987,
to be exact—1988.
siguro before we wrap up. Ito iyong mga medyo importante, the
according to our doctors here, the other side, from PGH, PDEA, DDB,
answer.
Sige, si Riciel.
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week ago I got an email coming from them na the one that I should
apply for should be the one that is approved from the source. In fact,
application.
And plus, if I may just say that one of the provisions po for the
compassionate permit is that you just need the dose that you are
needing. So it’s like you have it for two months, three months. So it
means that you are going to apply again for the next. So in terms of
the effort po of going to the FDA, and applying it like every two months
or three months. Kasi it’s explicit po that you need to put prescriptions
So when you look at the patient, when you look at the profile, these
are parents mostly na hindi nga makaalis because of the condition of the
cannot afford it because its $30,000, it’s a 145,000 a month. Kasi before
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it. And to be very honest, I can afford it maybe two times, but it will
never be sustainable.
Thank you.
Ano po iyong process? How come they are saying that it’s quite hard to
get the approval. Sige po, para lang magkaintindihan po tayo before we
is the drug that should be brought in, it has to be registered from the
country of origin.
quantity po eksakto. So, kung ang supply na kailangan ay for one year,
aaprubahan namin.
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involved. So, do you have any estimate how much will the government
need to establish this regulatory framework and the other things that
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for a while. Mayroon pa akong isa, last, Dr. Angel Magalona Gomez or
whoever. Silang dalawa. Quickly na lang po. Either, sino po? Seniority,
PowerPoint.
po.
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which I--
gamitin din natin iyong historical evidence which we have a lot. In fact,
medicine as well?
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by Dr. Angel Mutia. So, if we have a good explanation for the purported
with the recent update of the literature in general, CBD has been found
to have relatively low toxicity. Of course, not all potential toxic effects
can be covered.
Next slide, please. And across the number of controlled and open
well. Meaning, the evidence for scientific efficacy is quite good. And
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efficacy on epilepsy but I just like to add that there are more studies
epilepsy. Kaya lang ang sa kanila kasi that there are--they can already
position, I think.
nababahala lang ako baka hindi na naman maka-access iyong ating mga
kababayan na mahihirap.
also.
access--
mataas.
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na nasa national formulary na. Kaya hindi tayo dapat palimita doon sa
fact, I would say that THC is safer than paracetamol compared to the
others. If you look at the number of mortality per year, scientific data
Cannabis.
cited by the WHO expert committee which is one of the largest and
longest running trials which assessed the efficacy of daily oral 9 THC
demonstrated. The efficacy was demonstrated but not only the efficacy
drugs. Cannabis is much safer than many prescription drugs that have
been approved by the FDA. Cannabis is in fact safer than many over-
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iyong mga stimulants kagaya ng mga Cobra at kung anu-ano pa. Mas
you compare that makikita natin na THC is much safer than many other
You can see the comparative--you might say dangers from taking these
human right to health. Every person has the right to the highest
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Center, Bicutan.
the House bill of what we are talking about, about the compassionate
With regard to the use and possession of the marijuana are left as is.
There have been scientific evidence and clinical trials showing the
efficacy of medical marijuana. Let us not close our doors, more so our
looking for research findings or clinical trials that will defend our vested
position regarding this House bill. But instead let us try to offer an
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medicines that might and that will be beneficial for patients and
the process is quite too tedious. May I remind you, number one, you
Number four, the society shall submit the clinical case study
report through the drug device establishment at the end of the year.
specialty division and probably costly on the part of the patients since it
will be imported…/admasicap/trs
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marijuana.
medicines.
not be decided upon by the voting public or by the ballot but instead
abused and is being used on terminally ill patients suffering from chronic
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the composition, the dose of the Cannabis medicine and must have an
Having cited all these, I did not come here to the Senate to argue
you to kindly leave a part in your mind whether it’s cognitive or in your
bill.
decide the fate of this House Bill 6517, known as the Compassionate Use
of Medical Cannabis Act, and thank you, sir, for the privilege.
Panopio.
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Well, Dr. Limpin would like to say something. Dr. Gomez, would
you like to say something also later? Unahin ko na muna si Dr. Limpin
Cannabis.
ho natin ang sinasabing long and arduous process. That is the main
reason why they want to have legalization of Cannabis. When you refer
to a long and arduous process, I wonder kung ano ho ba talaga ang ibig
nilang sabihin doon sa long and arduous process? Kasi po ako I have
tried applying for compassionate use for other drugs. Katulad po noong
far the only evidence as far as we are concerned the use of like
Sildenafil.
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Iyong Revatio po is not available in the country. And since the patient
sa ating FDA for the use of Revatio for this particular patient. Hindi
because naging available iyon sa pasyente. And I was able to talk to the
pharma company and the patient was able to get it at a much lower
for us to just allow the Filipinos to get medicine without being assured
effective iyong gamot but that drug should be safe as well. Kaya ho kami
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long run.
So I hope that Your Honor will actually consider the position of the
siya kasi parang biglang nagbago ang ihip ng hangin. Pero for the
longest time din po, Dra. Reyes, we have been firm in our position but
Representatives.
Thank you.
MR. GOMEZ. Yes, Mr. Chairman. I know you’re raring to go. Good
relieve pain and suffering. And they come to me with the product, like
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you say, you don’t know how they got it but it’s there and I try to guide
them in its use. And like any clinician, I go low and slow and I want them
through together and explore what works and what doesn’t. And I
Thank you.
probably this is not the last hearing. We still have to hear some positions
I would like to thank all of you, all the resource persons for coming
would say. Sorry for the time pressure for pressuring all of you, but we
only had two hours to hear all of you, your positions. But be rest assured
suffering of those who have these conditions, why not? If it can prolong
the life, why not? But we have to make sure that the necessary
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so that we can prevent substance abuse and, likewise, to hear the other
side, the other medical practitioners that they want to make sure that
before we approve something, that all the research, iyong efficacy and
continuing the research but DOH would already start the research. So
once and for all, we can already determine whether or not really medical
nang—sa kanila, present laws are enough to obtain. But we will see. We
will have another one. At least we were able to say our positions of the
everyone for coming: Secretary Cuy of DDB; Usec Benjamin Reyes; Usec
Lock; and, of course, our expert panel of doctors. We have Dr. Rhea
Quimpo, Dr. Leonor Cabral-Lim, and Dr. Jose Santiago, and as well as
the other side, thank you very much for coming, Dr. Panopio, Dr. Mutia,
Dr. Gomez, Dr. Quijano, Dr. Manansala and, of course, the parents. Of
course, we feel for you. It’s very hard to see—I can just imagine how
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helpless you feel every time your child is undergoing seizure. We feel for
you.
after 30 years. Who would have thought that we will see each other in
this setting? Thank you very much for your passion as well.
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