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Republic of the Philippines

CONGRESS OF THE PHILIPPINES


SENATE
Pasay City

COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND DEMOGRAPHY


JOINT WITH THE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE

DATE : Wednesday, February 6, 2019

TIME : 1:00 p.m.

VENUE : Sen. Geronima T. Pecson Room


2nd Floor, Senate of the Philippines
Financial Center, Roxas Boulevard
Pasay City

AGENDA : PHILIPPINE COMPASSIONATE MEDICAL


CANNABIS ACT:

HOUSE BILL NO. 6517 - AN ACT PROVIDING


COMPASSIONATE AND RIGHT OF ACCESS TO
MEDICAL CANNABIS, EXPANDING RESEARCH
INTO ITS MEDICINAL PROPERTIES AND FOR
OTHER PURPOSES [by Representatives Albano,
Manalo, Panganiban, Rodriguez (M.), Pimentel,
Silverio, Lopez (B.), Erice, Violago, Billones,
Belmonte (J.C.), Sacdalan, Palma, Belmonte
(R.), Nieto, Cojuangco, Lazatin, Bautista-
Bandigan, Estrella, Tolentino, Zamora (R.), Yap
(A.), Martinez, Del Rosario, Rocamora, Acop,
Unabia, Dimaporo (M.K.), Ocampo, Gonzalez,
Bag-Ao, Espina, Cagas, Singson, Mercado, Siao,
Panotes, Tejada, Eriguel, Cuaresma, Barbers,
Veloso, Arcillas, Jalosjos, Catamco, Marino,
Garcia (G.), Amante, Macapagal-Arroyo, Roque,
Celeste, Abaya, Ty, Marcoleta, Nolasco, Bulut-
Begtang, Roa-Puno, Salceda, Pineda, Sambar,
Lanete, Limkaichong, Ferrer (L.), Villanueva,

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Alonte, Labadlabad, Velasco-Catera, Villarin,


Robes, Fariñas, Boncod, Defensor, Hofer,
Crisologo, Gonzales (A.D.), Noel, Gonzales
(A.P.), Matugas, Savellano, Garin (R.), Nograles
(J.J.), Salo, Herrera-Dy, Primicias-Agabas, De
Vera, Bravo (A.), Campos, Abayon, Garcia-
Albano, Sarmiento (C.), Sarmiento (E.M.),
Mangaoang, Zarate, Fortun, Aggabao, Aragones,
Marcos, Castro (F.L.), Garbin, Arenas, , Mellana,
Dy, Suarez, Belaro, Teves, Calixto-Rubiano,
Ortega (V.N.), Salon, Ting, Tupas, Tinio,
Mendoza, Calderon, Angara-Castillo, Andaya,
Ramos, Malapitan, Lobregat, Lopez (M.L.),
Batocabe, Yap (M.), Ortega (P.), Gorriceta,
Alvarez (F.), Banal, Vergara, Roman, Kho,
Papandayan, Sangcopan, Mending, Revilla, Tan
(A.), Escudero, Paduano, Elago, Lagman, Yap
(V.), Cueva, Brosas, Casilao, De Jesus And Sy-
Alvarado]
___________________________________________

ATTENDANCE
SENATORS:

HON. JOSEPH VICTOR G. EJERCITO - Chairman, Committee on


Health and Demography

HON. MARIA LOURDES NANCY S. BINAY - Member

HON. AQUILINO “KOKO” PIMENTEL III - Member

RESOURCE PERSONS:

Hon. Rolando Domingo - Undersecretary, Department of Health


(DOH)
Mr. Catalino S. Cuy - Chairperson, Dangerous Drugs Board
(DDB)
Atty. Katherine Austria-Lock - Officer-in-Charge, Center for Drug
Regulation and Research, Food and
Drug Administration (FDA)

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Dr. Rhea Salonga-Quimpo - Pediatric Neurologist, University of the


Philippines-Philippine General Hospital
Dr. Leonor I. Cabral-Lim - Chair, Department of Neurosciences
Philippine General Hospital, Philippine
Neurological Association
Ms. Agnes Mandap - Acting Director of Compliance Service,
Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency
(PDEA)
Dr. Jose P. Santiago Jr. - President, Philippine Medical
Association (PMA)
Ms. Riciel Ballesteros - Executive Committee Member,
Philippine Cannabis Compassionate
Society (PCCS)
Dr. Donnabel T. Cunanan - Spokesperson, PCCS
Mr. Chuck Manansala - President, Medical Cannabis Research
Center
Dr. Gem Mutia - PCCS
Dr. Angel Joaquin Gomez - President, Philippine Society of
Anesthesiologists (PSA)
Dr. Socorro Reyes - Chief Policy Adviser, Office of Rep.
Rodolfo Albano III
Dr. Romy Quijano - Expert in Clinical Pharmacology,
General Practice and Toxicology,
Medical Cannabis Research Center
Dr. Manuel C. Panopio - President, Philippine College of
Addiction Medicine and Chief Health
Program Officer, DOH Drug Treatment
and Rehabilitation Center-Bicutan
Dr. Ma. Encarnita B. Limpin - Head of Advocacy Committee,
Philippine College of Physicians

SENATE SECRETARIAT:

Ms. Beatriz Tiongco-Cruda - Committee Secretary, Committee on


Health and Demography
Ms. Jo B. Cadaing - Committee Stenographer
Ms. Ma. Rosalinda J. Catadman - Committee Stenographer
Ms. Araceli D. Masicap - Committee Stenographer
Ms. Norma G. Dizon - Committee Stenographer
Ms. Nida A. Mancol - Committee Stenographer
Ms. Cindell B. Gealan - Committee Stenographer
Mr. Rommel P. Alger - Committee Stenographer

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Ms. Sherill M. Villadiego - Committee Stenographer


Ms. Rea P. Corpuz - Committee Stenographer
Ms. Mildred C. Fisico - Committee Support Staff

(For complete list, please see attached Attendance Sheet.)

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AT 1:10 P.M., HON. JOSEPH VICTOR
“JV" G. EJERCITO, CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND DEMOGRAPHY,
CALLED THE HEARING TO ORDER.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Good afternoon. The

Committee on Health and Demography joint with the Committee on

Finance is hereby called to order.

Before we start, we will just wait for the other senators to come

because there’s an ongoing Commission on Appointments plenary. So

right after, some of them will be joining us.

So before that, I’d like to ask our Committee Secretary to first

acknowledge our resource persons present for today’s hearing.

THE COMMITTEE SECRETARY (MS. CRUDA). Good afternoon.

We would like to acknowledge the resource persons for this afternoon’s

public hearing.

From the Department of Health, Usec Rolando Domingo; Atty.

Katherine M. Austria-Lock from the FDA; Secretary Catalino S. Cuy,

Chairperson, Dangerous Drugs Board; Usec Benjamin Reyes, also from

the Dangerous Drugs Board; Dr. Rhea Salonga-Quimpo, Pediatric

Neurologist of UP-PGH; Dr. Leonor Cabral-Lim, Chair of the Department

of Neurosciences of PGH and also of Philippine Neurological Association;

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Agnes Mandap, Acting Director of Compliance Service of Philippine Drug

Enforcement Agency.

From the NGOs and private organizations, we have Dr. Jose P.

Santiago, President of Philippine Medical Association; Riciel Ballesteros

of the Philippine Cannabis Compassionate Society; Dr. Donnabel

Cunanan, spokesperson of the Philippine Cannabis Compassionate

Society; Chuck Manansala, President, Medical Cannabis Research

Center; Dr. Romy Quijano also of Medical Cannabis Research Center;

Dr. Gem Mutia and Dr. Angel Joaquin Magalona Gomez of the Philippine

Doctors for Medical Cannabis; Dr. Manuel Panopio, President of the

Philippine College of Addiction; and Dr. Socorro Reyes, Chief Policy

Adviser, Office of Representative Rodolfo Albano III.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Committee

Secretary.

Before we continue, the Chair would like to give his opening

statement. And probably for an orderly conduct of this hearing, we will

just go with the government representatives and then, probably, experts

in the medical, and then the individuals. Okay. Likewise, hopefully, our

Senate President will also be joining us after the plenary session of the

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Commission on Appointments because as we know that he is very much

against this bill. But we have to hear all sides. Okay.

Thank you.

“Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat. Narito po tayo ngayon

para maliwanagan ang isang issue na alam nating hanggang sa

kasalukuyan ay nananatiling kontrobersiyal. Gusto nating mapakinggan

ang bawat panig, pabor at hindi, at siyempre ang mga eksperto sa

larangan ng kalusugan upang mahingan sila ng kanilang mga

ekspertong opinyon upang kung magkakataon na kailanganin man

nating magpanukala ng batas ay nakatundog ito sa mga konkretong

pagsusuri. Kung tunay itong nakagagaling at kung ito na lamang ang

natitirang lunas o nakapagdurugtong ng buhay, marahil ay maaari na

natin itong bigyan ng pagkakataon. Siyempre, nakapaloob pa rin sa

regulasyon ng ating pamahalaan.

“Ang mga batas natin ay nariyan, hindi lamang upang magbawal

o magdisiplina, kung hindi nililikha rin upang magmalasakit. Gusto

nating matukoy kung kinakailangan pa bang magpanukala ng bagong

batas o sapat na ang pag-amyenda na lang sa kasalukuyang Dangerous

Drugs Act. Kailangan din nating matiyak na hindi maabuso ang

paggamit ng medical marijuana at manatili ito na para lamang sa

medical purposes.”

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Again, for an orderly conduct of today’s hearing, we will proceed

first with our government representatives, the medical experts, and then

the individuals. Before we continue, the Chair would like to acknowledge

the presence of our colleagues: Senator Nancy Binay; of course, our

former Senate President and a very good lawyer is here, his insights will

help a lot, Senator Koko Pimentel is also here.

Thank you, sir, for being with us.

SEN. PIMENTEL. [Off-mike/Inaudible]

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). But your expertise will still

be helpful. Okay so—

SEN. PIMENTEL. On the law, not on the use. [Laughter]

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you.

So first, probably, the Chair would like to acknowledge, give the

floor to our Department of Health, Undersecretary Rolando Domingo.

Not so long, he was also here.

Usec Domingo, our suki. You have now the floor.

MR. DOMINGO. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Madam

Senator and Senator Pimentel.

I would just like to give you the position of the Department of

Health. The Department of Health acknowledges the intent of House Bill

No. 6517, entitled “An Act Providing Compassionate and Right of Access

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to Medical Cannabis and Expanding Research into Its Medicinal

Properties.” The proposed measure aims to enable access to medical

cannabis and research into its medicinal properties. It provides for

exemptions from civil and criminal liabilities for qualified dispensers and

patients and authorizes public and private research entities to undertake

research on the medical use of the drug and delineates regulatory roles

among identified government agencies.

Cannabis, right now, is classified as a “Schedule 1” drug, and as

such, it is deemed to have no accepted medical use and has high

addictive potential. However, in recent years, there has been emerging

evidence on its efficacy for chronic pain, neuropathic pain, spasticity

symptoms in multiple sclerosis and for improving nausea and vomiting

for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy. Clinical studies to

support claims for its efficacy for a wide range of conditions, however,

are still insufficient. The evidence is still mixed whether the harmful

health effects of medical cannabis may outweigh its potential benefits is

still not sure.

The DOH maintains its position that making use of cannabis as a

means to alleviate chronic and debilitating medical conditions is not

necessary since some of the conditions that are claimed to be treated

by medical cannabis can be addressed by existing Food and Drug

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Administration or FDA approved and regulated medications. And we will

give you a list of those drugs, sir.

On the use of medical cannabis for research and compassionate

use, the DOH recognizes alternative treatment options for unmet

medical disorders and acknowledges significant interest among various

stakeholders on the potential use of cannabis for a variety of medical

conditions which includes those that already have FDA-approved drug

products indicated for such. To address this concern, the DOH supports

the conduct of further medical research into this evolving field.

The DOH manifests its objection to the legalization of the use of

medical cannabis in its raw, herbal, or plant form because such forms

are not acceptable as medicine by FDA standards. For purposes of

research and compassionate use, however, the DOH does not oppose

the legalization and testing of finished or processed drug products that

contain only the active ingredients derived from cannabis. Compared to

raw, herbal, or plant forms, finished or processed drug products contain

very specific amounts of the active ingredients which would make it

easier to predict intended effects of the products. These products,

however, should follow international standards for quality, safety, and

efficacy as well as comply with other existing FDA rules and regulations.

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Moreover, AO No. 172 of 2004 which provides for the guidelines

of the registration of herbal medicines defined herbal medicine as

“finished, labeled medicinal product that contains an active ingredient,

aerial or underground parts of the plant or any other plant material or a

combination of such whether in the crude state or as plant preparation

which may contain other excipients.”

The fresh plant material for which has not undergone any process

or treatment, such as proper drying, packaging and storage, is not

included in the said guidelines to which the marijuana plant must

undergo in order to extract its active ingredient that has the medicinal

property. Likewise, the fresh plant material does not fall under the

definition of traditionally-used herbal products which consists of

preparation from plant material whose claimed application is based only

on traditional experience of long usage of at least five or more decades.

The said product still requires documentation in medical, historical, and

ethnological literature.

Given the absence of both local scientific data and sparse rigorous

clinical evidence in the literature regarding medical cannabis, the DOH

recommends to focus on the conduct of scientific and rigorous…/jtbc/trs

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MR. DOMINGO. … conduct of scientific and rigorous assessment

of cannabis from drug product development to regulation of marketing.

The results of the studies will provide for recommendations as to

whether cannabis in its product formulation can be clinically effective

and safe.

The Philippine Institute of Traditional and Alternative Health Care,

or PITAHC, a DOH attached research institution mandated by law to

carry out herbal research, is willing to partner with academic institutions

to manage and implement research for the herbal drug development for

medical cannabis provided that funding and regulatory mechanisms are

in place.

Nonetheless, the conduct of herbal drug development which

necessarily includes processing of raw, herbal or plant forms of cannabis

for research would entail collaboration among concerned DOH units such

as FDA and PITAHC, also DOST, the Dangerous Drugs Board, and the

Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency or PDEA.

On the existing laws, regulations on medical cannabis for research

and compassionate use, Section 16 of the Dangerous Drugs Act and its

implementing rules and regulations already contains provisions for

cultivation or culture of plants classified as dangerous drugs. Section

15, let me quote, says, “Cultivation or culture of plants classified as

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dangerous drugs or sources thereof, provided that in the case of medical

laboratories and medical research centers, which cultivate or culture

marijuana, opium poppy and other plants, or materials of such

dangerous drugs for medical experiments and research purposes, or for

the creation of new types of medicine, the Board shall prescribe the

necessary implementing guidelines for the proper cultivation, culture,

handling, experimentation and disposal of such plants and materials.”

Such provision of law contemplates already research of cannabis for

medical use as well as its use in accordance with regulations already set

forth by the DDB.

Section 14 of DDB Resolution No. 1 of 2014, on the other hand, also

provides for the issuance of permits in relation to laboratory use and/or

programs for medical, and/or scientific research for dangerous drugs

including cannabis: “Permits in Relation to Laboratory Use and

Programs for Medical and Scientific Research or Instructional and

Training Purposes: The PDEA may, on written application made in the

prescribed form, grant a permit to conduct medical and scientific

research, laboratory analysis or instructional/training or other programs

and purposes that would require the import, possession, cultivation or

use of a dangerous drug; a controlled chemical; a plant source of

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controlled substance; a drug preparation containing a controlled

chemical.”

The FDA already also gives out Compassionate Special Permits

under its Administrative Order No. 4 of 1992, which grant specialized

institutions and specialty societies the privilege to avail of an

unregistered drug, medical device, or food product through a licensed

importer, for a specific kind/type of patients, specific volume and

period.” Mayroon na rin pong paraan para maka-access sa mga

pasyente and the doctor can ask this on behalf of a patient.

For specific regulation that would apply to cannabis, the DOH

respectfully submits that the existing RA 9165, with some administrative

fine-tuning, would suffice. Such fine-tuning can be implemented

through a revision of the implementing rules and regulations, or

issuance of board resolutions by the DDB, and administrative orders by

the FDA. Perhaps such revisions could specify regulations for

compassionate use of medical cannabis and for the research thereon.

Effective control measures must be in place to prevent diversion of

cannabis to illicit and recreational use. This may be a public health

concern, as studies show substantial evidence for the serious adverse

health effects of both acute and chronic use of cannabis use, such as

increased risk of motor vehicular accidents, impaired cognition and

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neurodevelopment; increased risk of schizophrenia and other

psychoses; dependence, addiction and substance abuse. This also

poses a public health risk for vulnerable populations such as adolescents,

pregnant and breastfeeding women.

And, lastly po, on the establishment of facilities for medical

cannabis purposes, the DOH opines that the proposed designation of

Medical Cannabis Compassionate Centers within hospitals, and Medical

Cannabis Research and Safety Compliance Facilities is not necessary and

will compromise the limited resources that the Department of Health

already has which we use to treat life-threatening illnesses. Moreover,

AO No. 4 of 1992 of the FDA allows specialized institutions to apply for

compassionate medical use of a particular drug. The regulation of such

facilities for dispensing medical cannabis for compassionate use, which

the bill proposes to be lodged to the Health Facilities and Services

Regulations Bureau or HFSRB of DOH, should be rightfully assigned to

DDB. Maintaining such facilities along with their requisite procedures

require a high level of security that is within the expertise of the DDB,

and not the DOH. Prescription and dispensation of medical cannabis for

compassionate use should only be through guidelines stipulated by the

FDA and the DDB, and only through a special S-license issued by PDEA.

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And, finally, sir, our recommendations: Legalization of the use of

medical cannabis should take into consideration its health benefits and

risks based on available evidence, its cost-effectiveness, the regulatory

capacity of the concerned agencies, and its impact on personal care of

affected individuals. Public health monitoring systems for tracking

prevalence and patterns of cannabis use should also be in place, to guide

future policymakers in making decisions on how to regulate the use of

medical cannabis.

The DOH supports research and compassionate use of medical

cannabis for specific indications. Based on the foregoing, the current

law is already in place, as well as resolutions of concerned government

agencies that are already adequate to implement the intent of the

proposed bill.

We will be submitting the official position to the Committee.

Thank you, Your Honor.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Thank you, Usec

Rolando Domigo.

So, in summary, the DOH is against? Or not yet supportive, but

you are in favor of the research, continuous studies and research. And

still, for compassionate use.

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MR. DOMINGO. Yes, Mr. Chair, we believe that there are already

existing regulations that address the regulatory needs. And if it’s for

research, definitely not in the raw or platform, but only the extracted

medicinal substance.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Well, actually, we have to

make it clear also that this hearing would also be strictly for medicinal,

not really recreational. So, hindi po talaga natin papayagan. We are

just hearing for medicinal.

As Chair of the Committee, of course, we have to open. We have

to hear if it will prolong the life, if it will relieve the pain, why not? But,

of course, we have to hear our panel of experts today.

Okay. So next, I would like to ask FDA, Atty. Katherine Austria-

Lock, probably your agency’s position regarding this measure from the

House.

MS. LOCK. Your Honor, we already submitted the FDA’s position

to the DOH, and it’s already consolidated in the position paper read by

Usec Eric Domingo.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay.

MS. LOCK. Thank you, Your Honor.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). So that was consolidated

already?

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MS. LOCK. Yes, Your Honor.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you.

SEN. BINAY. Mr. Chair.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Yes, Senator Binay.

SEN. BINAY. Kasi nabanggit ho ni Usec Domingo na based doon

sa AO No. 4S 1992 of the FDA, it allows specialized institutions to apply

for compassionate medical use of a particular drug.

May existing na ho ba tayo that you allowed? And can you please

siguro cite the example?

MR. DOMINGO. We’ve only so far had four applications. Iyong

iba po parang kulang, mayroon pa pong deficiency sa submissions. But

recently one was approved for the use of Epidiolex or cannabidiol, and

the doctor is here, Dr. Rhea Salonga-Quimpo is the doctor of the patient.

SEN. BINAY. Since only apat lang naman, can you cite—

MR. DOMINGO. Apat pa lang po iyong nag-apply. Iyong tatlo,

ma’am, may kulang pa na documentation. Isa pa lang ang na-approve.

SEN. BINAY. Isa pa lang ang na-approve. Iyong tatlo, pending

pa?

MR. DOMINGO. Ma’am, may pending pa pong deficiencies lang

ng requirements for use.

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SEN. BINAY. So itong na-approve, puwede nang—papayagan niyo

nang makuha nila?

MR. DOMINGO. Yes, ma’am. For that particular patient,

magagamit na po niya iyong gamot.

SEN. BINAY. And I think Dr. Quimpo will explain it further.

Okay. Siguro mamaya na lang, Mr. Chair.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Yes, we will just finish all the

resource persons.

Please make it very brief as we only have a few hours. Until 3

o’clock, we have to finish all of the resource persons. As much as

possible, we want to hear all of the experts and all the other agencies.

So, we will move on.

Next is probably we would like to hear from Dr. Maria Teresa

Mendoza. Is she here? No, she is not here. So, probably—Yes, ma’am.

VOICE. [Off-mike] Sir, it’s already consolidated.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Also consolidated. Okay,

that’s good. At least we save time. Kaya pala ang haba nang binasa

ninyo, Usec.

Thank you.

At least we have three agencies that were consolidated under that

position.

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Probably, we can hear from…/mrjc/imjv 

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). …Probably, we can hear from

Secretary Catalino Cuy, Chairperson of Dangerous Drugs Board for your

position.

MR. CUY. Yes, sir. Your Honor, ladies and gentlemen, good

afternoon.

The Dangerous Drugs Board would like to thank the Committee on

Health and Demography for inviting us to discuss the issues on the

compassionate use of medical marijuana.

At the outset, please be informed that Section 16, as mentioned by

Usec Domingo of Republic Act 9165 already provides among others, that

medical laboratories and medical research centers are allowed to cultivate

or culture cannabis, opium poppy and other plants or materials of such

dangerous drugs for medical experiments and research purposes or for the

creation of new types of medicine with the statutory mandate for the DDB

to promulgate the necessary implementing guidelines for the proper

cultivation, culture, handling, experimentation and disposal of such plants

and materials.

In relation therewith, the Board previously issued Board Regulation

No. 3, Series of 2003, regarding comprehensive guidelines on importation,

distribution, manufacture, prescription, dispensing and sale of, and other

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lawful acts in connection with any dangerous drugs, controlled precursors

and essential chemicals and other similar or analogous substances

wherein the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency or PDEA was given the

authority to grant permit to conduct laboratory analysis or a program for

scientific or instructional or strictly limited medical purposes that would

require the import, possession or use of dangerous drugs or controlled

chemical.

It was subsequently repealed by DDB Board Regulation No. 1, Series

of 2014, which expanded the authority granted to PDEA to include, but

not limited to the grant of permit to conduct medical and scientific

research, laboratory analysis or instructional training or other programs

and purposes that would require the cultivation of a dangerous drug,

controlled chemical, a plant source of a controlled substance or a drug

preparation containing a controlled substance with the corresponding

security arrangement that would be undertaken while a controlled

substance is being cultivated or is in possession, used or disposed of by

the requested party.

It further provides that PDEA may authorize the use of controlled

substances in the conduct of such medical or scientific research or

laboratory analysis or instructional/training or any program if satisfied

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that: (a) the conduct of a laboratory analysis or a program cannot be

carried out satisfactorily without the use of the specified dangerous drugs

or controlled chemicals; (b) the applicant is a fit and proper person to

conduct the laboratory analysis or program; (c) the program will be

adequately supervised; and (d) the program is to be conducted at or under

the auspices of a recognized institution or government institution or

acknowledged scientist or researcher or inventor.

Based on the foregoing, it is clear that the use of cannabis for

medical or scientific research and laboratory use is allowed under the law

which was enacted in 2002 and relevant rules or regulations issued by the

Board as early as 2003.

Nevertheless, as early as 2013, the International Narcotics Control

Board, the primary monitoring body for the implementation of the United

Nations Drug Convention has cautioned countries to fully consider the

negative impact of medical cannabis schemes or the establishment of such

programs which may indirectly lead to increase in the abuse of cannabis

which leads to increase in public health costs.

We have also taken note of and considered the position statements

issued by the coalition of sixteen medical organizations led by the

Philippine Medical Association and the technical working group of Medical

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Cannabis of the University of the Philippines-Manila which both manifest

the insufficiency of evidence on the efficacy of medical cannabis in the

treatment of any disease and that the use thereof may cause more harm

to patients. Simply put, there is still no definitive or conclusive findings as

to the advantages vis-à-vis the risk involved in using cannabis for medical

purposes. On this aspect, the Board will rely on the recommendation of

the Department of Health which is one of the member agency of the Board

that has the technical knowledge and expertise on the matter.

Finally, in the event that the Department of Health will issue a

favorable recommendation on the proposal, the DDB shall complement the

same as it is currently conducting research on policy formulation that

would prevent abuse and illegal use of medical cannabis, as what

transpired in other countries which allowed sale, use, possession,

cultivation and distribution thereof.

Thank you, sir.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Secretary Cuy.

So, anyway, that will be also one of the things that we have to

stress. Just in case it will be allowed that measures and safeguards will

be in place to prevent abuse. Kaya lang ang problema sa atin maraming

madaling magpalusot so we really have to be--maraming nag-aabuso.

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Maraming lumulusot. So, we really have to make sure that we have

stricter safeguards to make sure that it will be really for medical use, just

in case.

So, now we go to the medical experts. The Chair would like to

recognize Dr. Rhea Salonga-Quimpo, pediatric neurologist of UP-Manila,

UP-PGH.

And then after her Dr. Leonor Cabral-Lim, also of PGH; then Agnes

Mandap of PDEA; and then Dr. Jose Santiago of the Philippine Medical

Association. In that order so that you will be ready. Okay.

Thank you.

Dr. Quimpo, please. You have the floor.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Good afternoon, Your Honor.

In the interest of time, I will first present briefly the medical evidence

that we have available. So, when we talk about medical evidence, it’s

not merely the presence of evidence because we know that there are

thousands of studies on the use of medical marijuana. But we have to

look at the quality of evidence. And when drugs are approved it is because

there is good quality clinical evidence because, of course, we want to

safeguard the safety of our patients.

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So, just in the definition of terms, medical marijuana is actually a

legal definition. It just refers to the use of cannabis on the

recommendation of the healthcare provider. So, it’s a very general term

that could include any form of the plant. So, what is important to note is

that we should recognize that marijuana or cannabis has several varieties.

And just this, I am just presenting the two major varieties. And depending

on the variety, it is important to know that the proportion of the various

chemicals in it may be different and various chemicals are important

depending on the disease entity that we are trying to treat.

So, since I am a pediatric neurologist and epilepsy specialist, our

main area of concern really is drug resistant seizures or seizures that are

not responsive to medication. And actually, this is where we have good

clinical evidence. So, for Dravet Syndrome, which is genetic syndrome

seen in young children, it is caused by a sodium channel defect, these

patients would have hundreds of seizures per day. And in this clinical trial,

it was shown that cannabidiol, which is a specific extract of cannabis has

been proven to result in greater seizure reduction in patients using this.

And in another category of patients in a syndrome called Lennox-

Gastaut Syndrome, again, a difficult to treat epilepsy syndrome where only

30 percent would respond to medication, add-on cannabidiol was proven

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to be effective. And because of this good quality clinical trials, in June of

last year, cannabidiol was actually approved via Fast Track by the USFDA.

So, this was the medication, Epidiolex that Usec Domingo said was

approved for a patient who applied for it.

SEN. BINAY. Mr. Chair.

Doc, who did the clinical trial?

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. This is an international multi-center

study done by world experts on pediatric epilepsy and adult epilepsy. So,

this is recognized…/admasicap/jmb

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MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. … So, this is recognized actually by the

International League Against Epilepsy.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). So, Doc, before you

continue, again just to follow-up so that research showed that it did

relieve or was able to help treat epilepsy seizures.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Yes, sir.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). The reason I asked, Doc,

because I used to have a family member who is epileptic. And she

swears that with the cannabis—I don’t know how she gets it—she

doesn’t experience anymore seizure—Hindi, pag nasa America siya. But

every time she is here—That’s why she is pushing me. Before kasi,

nagkaka-attacks siya every night. But now, every time she has that, na

kung nakakakuha siya noong medical cannabis, wala daw iyong seizure.

Anyway, please continue po.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Okay. So important to know—

SEN. BINAY. Siguro one last question lang, Doc.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Yes.

SEN. BINAY. But it’s not a treatment, right? It just lessens the

attacks.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Yes, because we don’t have purely

anti-epileptic medication talaga. All our medications for seizures are

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really just anti-seizures. Because depending on the cause of the

epilepsy, the treatment would differ. And remember that Epidiolex or

the medication, the data said is a purified—like pharmaceutical grade

product. It’s not just an ordinary like extract of cannabis. It’s 98 percent

cannabidiol. Because cannabidiol is the component of cannabis that’s

proven to be effective in treating seizures.

SEN. BINAY. Ano ho ba ito? Is it an oil? Do they—

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Yes, this is an oral solution. So it’s a

purified extract already in a solution form. So this we know are

standardized quantities of the medication every time. All right.

So if we look at cost effectivity—we always look at cost effectivity

and, unfortunately, we still don’t have local data. Our medical societies

are only beginning to start our databases in pediatric neurology. But if

we look at current Philippine population of 107 million, prevalence

estimates of epilepsy in the Philippines is about one million.

If we look at Dravet Syndrome, worldwide prevalence is less than

one per 40,000. And if we extrapolate that, it’s probably around 2,500

Filipinos will have that.

If you look at Lennox-Gastaut, worldwide estimates will be about

15 per 100,000, which is around 15,000. So if we combine that, around

17,500 Filipinos with these two syndromes. But I put here plus a total

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of 20,000 because there maybe 30 percent of those who may not have

this particular syndromes but do not respond to conventional anti-

epileptic medication treatment. So those are what we call drug-resistant

epilepsies.

So if we look at 5 percent response, meaning, those who would be

seizure free, not just reduction, so the response rates here—I’m quoting

are seizure freedom rates because there’s a difference between

completely having zero seizures as opposed to those having just a

reduction. If we look at seizure freedom from CBD or cannabidiol

treatment at a 5 percent response, that would be 1,000. If we look at

15 percent response, that will be 3,000. So if we look at the numbers,

it’s quite a small population of patients that we’re looking at, at least,

in the epilepsy population.

So the other condition where there has been proven to be some

benefit is for multiple sclerosis. For multiple sclerosis, OCE or oral

cannabis extracts has been found to be effective for reducing patient-

reported scores in terms of spasticity or iyong paninigas po ng muscles

which is particularly the one that’s burdensome in MS. And the other

one is the THC component or Nabiximol which is actually a combined

THC and CBD preparation of cannabis.

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So they also looked at smoked marijuana but it’s of uncertain

efficacy and this is quoting from the systematic review done by the

American Academy of Neurology.

So for patients with multiple sclerosis, so it’s probably effective in

reduction of central pain and painful spasms. But these are the extracts

but not the smoked marijuana which is of unclear efficacy.

How about for HIV-related symptoms? So what they looked at was

weight change, nausea and vomiting and performance in mood. And

what we found based from a systematic was just seven randomized

control trials. All studies were just of short duration. There was one study

which looked at Dronabinol which is a synthetic preparation of

marijuana. And a conclusion was, there is still no sufficient no good

clinical trial data because of the small populations and some result

subject to bias.

The other big research area is for cancer pain. Because as we

know, it’s being looked at for palliative care, and I won’t bother you with

this very long tables. But suffice it to say, that when they compared

oral tetrahydrocannabinol or the component of marijuana with opioids,

it was superior to placebo, meaning, to not giving medication, but almost

same efficacy as the available medications such as codeine or other

opiate medications.

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There were limited studies done on cancer patients and some

studies showed mix result. The most recent one is a systematic review

and meta analysis, again in palliative medicine, where they found that

there was no significant differences between cannabinoids and placebo

for improving food intake, for increasing appetite, nausea or vomiting,

for decreasing pain and for sleep problems. So these are what we have

in terms of good quality clinical trial data.

So in summary, where we have good evidence is really just for

epilepsy and multiple sclerosis. For the others, there is some suggestion

that it might be effective but we don’t have the good clinical trial

evidences available.

So if we look at what we have out there, outside of the Philippines,

we must remember that cannabis-based medications come in various

forms. So the ones in blue here are already the medicinal products,

meaning, pharmaceutical grade, those which are synthetic. And,

actually, this have been approved in other countries such as the US for

many, many years. And these synthetic tetrahydrocannabinols have

been used for the treatment of chemotherapy-induced nausea and

vomiting and loss of appetite.

So recently, Sativex, which is a plant-based combination of

cannabidiol and THC, has been approved in some countries for the

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treatment of spasticity in multiple sclerosis. And as I mentioned earlier,

the most recent was last year was Epidiolex which was approved by the

US FDA and currently undergoing review by the European Regulatory

Authorities. So we only have two cannabis-based medications that are

plant-based that have been approved.

If you look at the other preparations, it could be raw cannabis or

magistral or compounded preparations. These are—You would tell the

pharmacists how many percent of CBD, how many THC they will put in,

and then standardized cannabis which are artisanal oils. So that’s why

the studies are not that good because the preparations vary from study

to study. So until we have that good evidence, I think we still have a

while to wait.

In the US actually, in the University of Mississippi, they got special

permission from the federal government to do research on their own

plant-based extract for epilepsy. So maybe something that we should

consider.

So briefly, I would just like to state the highlights of the UP-Manila

Technical Working Group statement. This actually already echoes what

was previously mentioned by the Department of Health and the DDB.

And I think a lot of our statements really rely on what is available out

there. So we have submitted a hard copy to the secretariat also.

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So from the UP-Manila Technical Working Group on Medical

Cannabis, we state that we recognize that there are some patients who

do not respond to standard treatment who may benefit from medical

cannabis. However, there is no need for any new legislation to allow

access to cannabis as there are already existing national policies with

mechanisms that will allow access to cannabis for medical use, for

compassionate use and in the research setting as exemplified by the

patient who applied and got approved for Epidiolex.

And mind you, it was quite a quick approval. It was only January

that the patient was referred to me because of increased seizures and

we already have the approval from FDA.

SEN. BINAY. Doc, kayo ho iyong nag-prescribe doon sa patient?

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. I wrote because that patient was a

patient of another neurologist, but being an epilepsy expert, it was

referred to me for possible evaluation …/ngdizon/alcc

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MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. … for possible evaluation because they

tried a lot of medications already.

So after reviewing the patient’s case, the patient has Lennox-

Gastaut Syndrome and we know that US-FDA approved na iyong

Epidiolex so I made a recommendation through—I think they got the

requirements from FDA for application for medical compassionate use for

Epidiolex po.

SEN. BINAY. Nakakuha na ho sila?

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Hindi pa po. In process na po iyong

papers so actually, they are contacting sources in the US because we

don’t have it locally available. So they have to contact where it is

available po.

SEN. BINAY. At the moment wala pa hong nakakagamit nito.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. At least for my patients iyon pa lang po

iyong first po. And, of course, because it’s illegal here, ma’am, so we

don’t recommend using it but actually, our medical societies, because we

really have high interest in getting this into the country, we have

petitioned earlier this last month, January, to DDB to reclassify

cannabidiol to “Schedule 5” so that it could be imported into the country

so that our patients could have access to it.

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SEN. BINAY. Siguro, Mr. Chair, since we’re pressed for time, can I

just request the FDA to submit to the Committee the process? Kunwari,

I’m an epileptic patient. Ano ho ba iyong proseso for me to avail of the

medicine?

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Senator Binay.

Please, FDA, please submit na lang the requirements as requested by

Senator Binay.

MS. AUSTRIA-LOCK. Okay po, Your Honor, yes. We will submit

po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Doktora Rhea, are there any

ongoing studies or research from UP-PGH? Wala ano, kasi wala pa kayo

kasi bawal. So once allowed, we will be able to conduct the research

studies.

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Yes, sir. Actually, we have been

proposing since last year to form a medical Cannabis study group at the

National Institute of Health so that we could look at it, opo.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). I just like to have an idea.

How much po is a bottle of cannabidiol? Ang hirap ng mga scientific

terms.

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MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. Actually po, if we look at US dollars, it’s

expensive. They estimate the cost for a year to be around US$20,000 to

US$25,000.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). US dollars?

MS. SALONGA-QUIMPO. In a year. Remember these are highly

specialized but we know for a fact that medications are usually more

costly really in the US and when they market it in developing countries,

it’s usually a lower cost. Actually, Dra. Cabral-Lim can probably tell you

later that she has been trying to contact the pharmaceutical that

produces Epidiolex if it could be brought in probably so we could have the

access to it.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). But you’re already in the

process, para ho iyong inyong request so that they can already use it for

your study and treat some of the patients.

Dra. Cabral, ma’am, sige ho.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to

present here, Senator JV and Senator Binay.

Thank you, Rhea, for presenting the evidence.

In the interest of time, it is quite clear that the medical community

and the Department of Health are agreed that we do not need a new

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legislation to allow access, compassionate use of Cannabis and access for

research purposes.

So after presenting the evidence, I would just like to reiterate that

any Cannabis legislation that will promote cultivation, dispensing of

Cannabis outside or research outside the regulation of the current RA

9165, I think, is potentially dangerous because of the experience of other

countries and globally who has actually legalized medical Cannabis. And

quite a number of this, they started from medical Cannabis legalization

and went on onwards towards recreational Cannabis use.

SEN. BINAY. Dr. Lim.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Yes.

SEN. BINAY. Can you please cite specific countries?

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Yes. I will be presenting most of the data in the

United States because these are the first ones who legalized it and then

I have recent data from Canada. And then the other countries I don’t

have. I think they’re still in the process because what is ironic here is

that these countries have legalized Cannabis without any data as to the

efficacy and safety. And now they are looking into the efficacy and safety

while at the same time this is being given to the patients. That is

definitely contrary to the ethics of medical practice. So most of these

data are data from medical Cannabis legalization but there are just a few

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that the studies cannot sort out medical versus recreational. But, of

course, predominantly the data is on medical because there are just a

few countries that legalize recreational use. And despite the global

bandwagon on the legalization of medical Cannabis, actually medical

Cannabis legalization all over the world is actually through the ballot and

a political move. I am not aware of any medical group that is in favor of

legalization of medical Cannabis.

So what is the data on medical Cannabis legalization. I have all the

references in this PowerPoint. In the interest of time, I will just read the

summary.

Medical Cannabis legalization has led to increased prevalence of use

in medical Cannabis states. There was an increased Cannabis use due to

the decreased perception of risk especially among the youth who are the

most vulnerable and who are the most frequent users, the youth and the

young adults.

SEN. BINAY. Dr. Lim.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Yes, please.

SEN. BINAY. Ito ho ba medical Cannabis, both for recreation and

medical purposes or in general na po?

MS. CABRAL-LIM. This slide is for medical Cannabis. I will mention

later the ones where I cannot tell whether it’s pure, okay.

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So this one is all for medical Cannabis.

There is increased density of Cannabis outlets that increases

Cannabis use and dependence, and there is also diversion to recreational

use. In fact, there are studies stating that substance abusers, actually a

certain percentage of them, have access to medical Cannabis. And, of

course, medical Cannabis advertisement is associated with higher youth

use.

What are the harmful effects? There is substantial evidence of a

statistical association between Cannabis use and increased risk of motor

vehicle crashes. There is increased poison center calls hospitalization and

emergency department visits. This is because people start extracting

Cannabis from butane on their own and they have fires and accidents.

Now, if you look at medical Cannabis legalization, there are studies

showing the relationship between the medical Cannabis market,

recreational use and health harms. So, for every 1 percent point increase

in the share of adults registered as medical Cannabis patients, the

prevalence of Cannabis use among the youth increased by 5 to 6 percent.

So, for example, if we give 100 patients at the Philippine General

Hospital, there will be 500 to 600 patients among the youths who will use

it, and this is under medical Cannabis legalization. There is increased

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alcohol poisoning and deaths by 4 percent, increased traffic fatalities by

7 percent.

Now, this is a very recent study from Canada—

SEN. BINAY. Dr. Lim.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Yes.

SEN. BINAY. Doon ho ba sa US, kailangan ho ba prescribed by a

doctor first to avail?

MS. CABRAL-LIM. No, it’s only recommended because it is illegal

in the federal government. So actually, most of the physicians are at a

dilemma because it is illegal in the federal government, they are

authorized to recommend in their respective states. I don’t know how

much informed consent is required but I saw a form wherein if you write

the informed consent, I don’t think the patient will take it because if you

present the evidence and the harms and explain it to the patient, which

actually will be our responsibility now because of the Mental Health Law

that all of us are required to give informed consent to our patients before

we give any form of treatment, I don’t think any patient knowing the

uncertain benefit because HB 6157 passed on third reading actually

legalizes the opening of medical dispensaries and then the physicians will

write a written certification for a gamut of indications which was actually,

if you review the different bills globally, they are quite similar but you can

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only pick out the ones with the evidence and what we have now. For

now, it’s Dravet Syndrome and Lennox-Gaustaut Syndrome and

spasticity and epilepsy and multiple sclerosis. And regarding pain, the

Pain Society of the Philippines has enough data saying there is really no

evidence for pain now. And pain is a very difficult symptom. . . (nam/trs)

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MS. CABRAL-LIM. …And pain is a very difficult symptom to sort

of confirm or—I can say I have back pain, then therefore, I am

intractable, then, therefore, I deserve Cannabis. But the problem is I

have relief now, then I feel better, then I keep on getting the pain relief

and, of course, because Cannabis affects the reward system, I will start

looking for it. So imagine using it in chronic diseases, in a person who

is chronically ill, you will just keep on looking for it. It is no problem if

it is proven effective, if it is safe. I think any doctor will not hesitate to

give a drug to a patient if it is proven effective and safe. But we all know

that even FDA-approved drug, there’s no such thing as a medicine that

has no side effect. In fact, if you look at our PIMS, when the patient

reached all the adverse effects, they tell us, “How can I take this, it’s all

side effects?” And we assure them that, “We know the side effects, but

the regulations require that we have to list everything. So don’t worry,

we will take care of you. We’ll follow you up.” But of course, with the

knowledge gap na, we cannot tell that for Cannabis. We cannot even

educate our students what is the knowledge that we’re going to teach

you.

So going back to the data on—there’s a recent data on Canadian

Tobacco, Alcohol and Drugs Survey. So there are about 9.5 percent

non-medical users in Canada—2.8 percent use for self-defined medical

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purposes in addition to non-medical use. And Cannabis users of any

type, this is already the data where it is mixed but, of course, Cannabis

legalization in Canada started also as medical. So they are male, they

are young, they use other illicit drugs, and at least one of three classes

of psychoactive pharmaceutical drugs non-therapeutically. They are

daily cigarette smokers and heavy drinkers. And there’s also evidence

showing that Cannabis use increases the risk of substance use of any

form—alcohol, tobacco, illicit drugs or any substance use.

Daily and near daily Cannabis use is common among self-defined

medical and non-medical Cannabis users. Factors associated with self-

defined medical and non-medical use include: worst general and mental

health. We believe that this bill is contrary to the mental health bill. I

am a strong advocate of the mental health bill, so I cannot imagine that

we are passing a legislation that will aggravate mental health conditions;

lower income and use of other psychoactive drugs.

The majority of households spending on Cannabis is for non-

medical use. A recent international survey looking at 12,000 youth aged

16 to 19 showed that in the United States and Canada youth, there is a

higher prevalence of use, easier access, lower perceived harm and a

higher driving rates after Cannabis compared to England.

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So the prevalence of use is—this goes from USA, Canada and

England—14 percent to at least as 10 percent in England. Easier

access—two-thirds of the youth in Canada and the US, less than 50

percent in England, and it is perceived harmless by two-thirds to 70

percent of the youth. Because once you legalize something, the youth

starts to perceive it as safe. For example, how can you prevent your

teenage children of taking Cannabis when they tell you that, “Well, the

Department of Health agrees with it. it is legal, so it must be safe.” And

then driving rates, 27 percent of those who use Cannabis in the United

States drive; 15 percent in Canada; and less than 10 percent in England.

So I—

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Dra. Cabral, sorry to cut

you short, but we’re pressed for time. But probably if you may

summarize what are your recommendations for the Committee.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Okay.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). And probably, just submit

a position paper for our better appreciation.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Yes. Okay.

So in summary, we agree with the medical community and UP -

Manila and the Department of Health and DDB that there is no need for

any new legislation. The evidence of the efficacy of Cannabis is only

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limited to very specific conditions. Cannabis is a harmful substance.

The current limited evidence on efficacy of medical Cannabis will

endanger the health and safety of our citizens. And we stand by the

Philippine Food Drug Administration’s approval process as the most

effective way to ensure the safety, efficacy and purity of medications for

use by our patients.

Thank you very much. We submitted the position statement.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Dr. Cabral.

So next is Ms. Agnes Mandap, acting director of Compliance

Service of PDEA. And last on the left side, so ito iyong mga against, Dr.

Jose Santiago, President of Philippine Medical Association—Nakita ko na

iyong hati based on the facial reactions.

SEN. BINAY. [Inaudible]

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Oo nga.

So on the right side, ito po iyong pro.

Okay. Ms. Mandap, please.

MS. MANDAP. Thank you very much, sir.

Good afternoon, sirs and ma’ams.

The PDEA, through its Compliance Service, implements the

regulations issued by the Dangerous Drugs Board. As mentioned earlier,

the policies and regulations involving medical research and

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compassionate use for medical Cannabis were given. And, as of date,

the PDEA Compliance Service has not received a single application for

the import of a Cannabis-based product for the past several years armed

with the compassionate permit issued by the FDA.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). So nobody is applying sa

PDEA?

MS. MANDAP. Not yet, sir. Wala pa po.

SEN. BINAY. Mr. Chair, kasi baka nasa FDA pa. Nasa FDA pa

lang.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). It’s still with the FDA.

So none sa inyo, ano? Wala pa.

Okay. Thank you.

Kay Dr. Jose Santiago, President of PMA.

MR. SANTIAGO. Yes.

Honorable Senator JV Ejercito, Honorable Senator Nancy Binay,

my dear colleagues in the medical profession, my friends and, of

course—isang maningning na hapon po sa inyong lahat.

Wala ho ditong pro and anti, so—Well, anyway, let me really

sustain the statements made by Usec Domingo, Dr. Quimpo and Dr.

Cabral-Lim regarding this Cannabis.

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You know that Philippine Medical Association—so don’t be

misconstrued about the PMA, Philippine Military Academy. So that’s

what I want to stress—Philippine Medical Association.

So Philippine Medical Association is the oldest and probably the

largest medical association in the country. Under PMA is eight special

divisions, 54 specialty and sub-special societies and, of course, 57

affiliate societies.

So, Your Honor, I would like to read the unified position statement

of the medical community on HB 6517.

So for and in behalf of the 81 members, medical doctors in the

country, the medical community is steadfast in its stand to, “First, do no

harm.” It’s our ethical responsibility as physicians to prescribe drugs

based on the proven efficacy and safety in order to safeguard the best

interest of our patients.

HB 6517 will expose our citizens to a natural, uncontrolled human

experiment with Cannabis and its derivatives. This human experiment,

under the guise of the law, requires no informed consent, no approval

from the professional institutional review board, no protection from our

drug regulatory agency, and no accountability and no recourse for

unfavorable consequences for its use.

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Cannabis is harmful and can cause potentially fatal adverse drug

reaction and drug interactions. It is dangerous to developing brain and

it can cause neurocognitive, psychiatric and behavioral problems. The

evidence for the efficacy of Cannabis is only limited to epilepsy in Dravet

Syndrome, Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome and spasticity in multiple

sclerosis.

Access to medical Cannabis for compassionate use and research

is already provided by law through R.A. 9165. Hence, there is no need

for a new legislation to this end. HB 6517 is unnecessary and redundant.

We have just recently passed the Mental Health Law, and I would like to

thank Honorable Senator JV Ejercito and, of course, Senator Nancy

Binay for their support on this Mental Health Law, which promotes the

well-being of the Filipino people. And HB 6517 that proposes to legalize

medical Cannabis undermines the integral…/cbg/jmb

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MR. SANTIAGO. …undermines the integral policy of this law.

The HB 6517 is contrary to the policy of the State to safeguard the well-

being of citizenry, particularly the youth who’s most vulnerable to

harmful effects of dangerous drugs.

Legalization of Cannabis is a public health issue. HB 6517 poses

harm to the healthy, with no guaranteed cure for the sick. Cannabis is

one of the most widely cultivated, trafficked and abused illicit drug and

serves as a gateway for the use of more potent substance of abuse.

Medical Cannabis legalization in other countries has led to

increased Cannabis use as really presented by Dra. Cabral-Lim in US

and Canada, diversion to recreational use, increased incidence of traffic

accidents, accidental poisoning and the development and aggravation of

mental disorders.

HB 6517 is contrary to the interest of public safety and the

common good.

This is just probably the statements made by our colleagues in the

medical profession and I hope we could send the message loud and clear

to Your Honor, Senator JV Ejercito and, of course, to Senator Nancy

Binay.

Thank you, sir.

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). Okay. Thank you, Dr.

Santiago.

But do you agree that there are some—it relieves or prevents

seizures and probably can help in multiple sclerosis and epilepsy.

MR. SANTIAGO. That’s correct.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). But you are against the

House bill.

MR. SANTIAGO. That’s a limited use—very limited use.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). You are against the House

bill, you need to summarize…

MR. SANTIAGO. Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). …because there are already

existing processes which you can obtain.

MR. SANTIAGO. It’s correct.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). Anyway, I am just clarifying.

And we will go into that later, how come it is so hard or too difficult to

obtain kaya parang kaunti ho ang nag-a-apply, baka naman ganoon.

Okay.

MR. SANTIAGO. Well, probably—it will just probably, you know,

lessen the process or expedite the process on how to obtain the drugs.

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). Okay. Please submit your

position.

MR. SANTIAGO. Yes, Your Honor.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). So, thank you very much,

Dr. Santiago.

Now, we move on to the Philippine Cannabis Compassion Society,

Riciel Ballesteros, excom member or spokesperson. Sino ho sa inyo?

MS. BALLESTEROS. Good afternoon, Senator JV and Senator

Binay.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). Ms. Riciel Ballesteros, okay.

But before you continue, then next probably Chuck Manansala and

the others para lang you will be ready. And probably we’d like to hear

from Dr. Reyes before we go to the others after Mr. Manansala because

Dr. Reyes is the chief policy adviser of the main proponent,

Congressman Rodito Albano of this House bill. So, we’ll hear from her

then go back to the others. Okay.

Ma’am, sige, go ahead.

MS. BALLESTEROS. Good afternoon.

My name is Riciel Ballesteros. I am from Quezon City. I am a PCCS

member, a mother advocate and a supporter of House Bill 6517 or the

Philippine Compassionate Medical Cannabis Act.

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I am a mother of a 12-year old boy. His name is Jacobo Joachim,

whom we fondly called “Sachi.” He was diagnosed with infantile

hemiplegia, cerebral palsy and epilepsy with intractable seizures.

His seizures started when he was eight months old up to the

present.

He has been with five anticonvulsant medications as maintenance

namely: Levetiracetam, Lamotrigine, Clonazepam, Oxcarbazepine,

Topiramate and Midazolam when his seizures becomes uncontrollable.

These anticonvulsant medications are both regular and with S2

prescriptions.

Despite the five maintenance drugs and benzodiazepine

medication, his seizures remain uncontrollable that ranges an average

of 5 to 10 times per day or 50 per week. Every time he will have his

seizures, we can only watch in grief, praying for his seizures to stop

while we helplessly wait for the medication to kick in.

I am sorry, I am becoming emotional.

While we have been in these numerous medications for 12 years,

we also experienced a lot of side effects, including severe skin rashes,

lethargy and mood swings but we keep him in those medications with

the hope of seizure control despite all those side effects.

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Sachi was also in ICU due to status epilepticus with seizures that

lasted for 45 minutes. He was intubated and that was the time when we

thought he’s going and he’s gone. He recovered after five days and so

our turning point for seeking all other possible options.

We came across numerous articles about medical Cannabis

including a series of CNN episodes of Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a neuro surgeon,

entitled WEED. Dr. Gupta had also his reservations on the benefit of

medical Cannabis, however he later apologized for he said he did not dig

deeper. He mentioned that after five years of studying and following

different researches for medical Cannabis, it changed his position, that

Cannabis is beneficial for different medical conditions. With that, it gave

us information on the medical benefits of Cannabis for patients with

different conditions including epilepsy and intractable seizures.

As a parent, you will seek for all possible options that will improve

the condition of your child and ensure that we provide them an

opportunity to grow and enjoy what a kid his age should experience and

to live his life to the fullest.

I am just one of those mothers whom life was changed completely

by having a child or family member with this kind of debilitating

condition. Hospital has been our second home. We experienced getting

confinement for several days, was able to get a discharge order only to

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be back at night on the same day for another confinement because of

seizures.

This has been our journey in the last 12 years. Other than the

insurmountable medical bills during his hospitalization, the cost of

maintenance medication and other interventions like OT, PT, speech

therapy which averages around P70,000 monthly, it is the emotional

burden that mostly becomes unbearable. The constant concern whether

Sachi will be there the next day is always our biggest fear. It also

changed the dynamics of our family as most of our days are evolving

around him. And there are times when I almost want to give up as a

mother. I am always reminded that when Sachi was hanging on for his

dear life when he had status epilepticus, like a fish out of a fish bowl, he

vividly uttered to me, “Hold on, nanay, hold on.”

In behalf of PCCS members, advocates and mothers who are

holding on and holding on tight for the opportunity to have additional

option in the management of different debilitating conditions that our

loved ones are experiencing, we are humbly appealing to the Honorable

Senators for the opportunity to be heard on the following: to be able to

have a regulated access for medical Cannabis as a finished dosage form

that is safe and affordable; and to kindly consider House Bill 6517

approved in the Lower House to be adopted by the Senate.

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We are hoping for your favorable accommodation on the passage

of Compassionate Medical Cannabis Act now for the benefits of patients

who are really in dire need and are racing against time.

Maraming, maraming salamat po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). Thank you, Ms. Riciel

Ballesteros of the Philippine Cannabis Compassionate Society.

Of course, we sympathize with your predicament. And of course,

that’s why we are hearing this measure, we’re trying to find ways on

how we will be able to relieve and probably relieve conditions like this.

But why do you—anyway, we’ll ask questions later. We’ll just finish the

other resource persons.

Dr. Donnabel, mayroon na ho kayo? Just quickly so that we can

finish all the others, so that we can already profound questions.

MS. CUNANAN. Good afternoon.

My name is Dr. Donnabel Trias-Cunanan, spokesperson, Philippine

Cannabis Compassion Society, also a mother of an epileptic child with

an intractable seizure known as the brain syndrome. She has around

100 seizures daily in her worst, that’s why I am passionately advocating

for this.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN EJERCITO). And Dr. Donnabel, you are

a doctor of medicine also?

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MS. CUNANAN. I am a dentist…/rommel/mva

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MS. CUNANAN. …I am a dentist by profession.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). You are a dentist. Okay.

MS. CUNANAN. The Philippine Cannabis Compassion Society is

an organization composed of patients, parents, caregivers—some of our

patients are here--caregivers and advocates pushing for safe,

affordable, available and regulated access to medical Cannabis. We are

in the forefront of the medical Cannabis movement in the Philippines.

We have been fighting and campaigning for the medical Cannabis

law since 2014. And sadly, many of our members have passed away

without seeing the advent of medicine that could have made their lives

more bearable and less suffering.

PCCS highly supports House Bill 6517 for the following reasons:

First, we believe that the access to Cannabis as medicine is a basic

human right. It is our right to health. And Filipinos have the right to

the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health which

includes the right to access medical services, sanitation, adequate food

and healthy environment.

House Bill 6517 will only allow qualified patients with debilitating

medical conditions to access medical Cannabis in a very strict

environment and very, very strict regulatory framework under the

Department of Health, FDA, DDB and PDEA.

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The qualified patients must have a bona fide relationship with his

physician. Meaning that the patient and the physician have a continuing

relationship wherein a physician has made a complete assessment of the

patient’s medical history, including an appropriate diagnostic and

personal physical examination sufficient to determine that the patient is

suffering from a debilitating medical condition.

PCCS recognizes the use of medical Cannabis as a symptomatic

relief for patients suffering from chronic pain, cancer, seizure disorders,

and many diseases require admission to hospice care. It will only allow

legitimate patients that have medical conditions to have safe access.

I personally applied for the compassionate special permit, like

what Dr. Quimpo has been telling in the Committee. But, Your Honor, I

was declined. And also I am not as rich maybe of one of the patients of

Dr. Quimpo because the compassionate special permit is in FDA-finished

product form and it is around $32,000 per year.

Your Honorable Senators, I speak on behalf of all the patients from

the Philippine Cannabis Compassion Society na halos average or

mahihirap po ang aming mga pasyente. And we highly appeal to your

Honorable Senators, to please help us and be the champions of our

Filipino patients to access medical marijuana. We humbly ask our dear

Senators to please consider and pass House Bill 6517.

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Maraming salamat po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Dr. Donnabel

Cunanan.

Anyway, I just like to ask, saan ho kayo nag-apply? Did you apply

already sa FDA?

MS. CUNANAN. Nag-apply po. Yes po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). When was this?

MS. CUNANAN. Two to three years ago po. Around two to three

years ago.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Two to three years ago.

SEN. BINAY. What was the reason?

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). It was declined?

Disapproved.

MS. CUNANAN. Yes. Because it has very, very hard

qualifications. First, I personally asked my neurologist to help me with

the application of the CSP. But unfortunately, I went to FDA around two

to three times. And then they don’t have a very, very specific IRR for

the application of the FDA compassionate special permit. And at that

time, I was informed, Your Honor, that it will be processed and it will

take around two to three months for the medicine to be—Yes.

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Anyway, we will ask FDA

later on.

MS. CUNANAN. Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). We will just finish all the

other resource persons.

Likewise, the Chair would like to inform all of you that this will be

the last week of our session before we go on break for the campaign

break, we will still be back in May. So hindi pa po tapos ito. By May,

we can probably schedule committee hearings in between.

MS. CUNANAN. Thank you.

SEN. BINAY. Mr. Chair.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Yes, Senator Binay.

SEN. BINAY. Kasi parang kanina pa ho nababanggit iyong cost

of that drug.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Twenty-five thousand,

thirty. Very prohibitive.

SEN. BINAY. Nakikita ninyo ho ba iyong scenario na we will

locally manufacture that drug?

VOICES. Yes.

SEN. BINAY. And we can do that? I don’t know kung—

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Dr. Domingo.

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MR. DOMINGO. Iyon nga po kasi ang ano natin, wala pa po

kasing scientific evidence except for, of course--iyon nga po, katulad po

noong kay ma’am na iyong diagnosis ng kanyang seizure. These are

one of those that are actually known naman na may benefit.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Nare-relieve. Talagang it

relieves or prevents seizures.

MR. DOMINGO. Opo. Kaya lang until then—One of the

requirements for FDA for compassionate use, like any other drug,

halimbawa, cancer, any drug, kapag may compassionate use na gustong

ipasok sa Pilipinas, ang requirement po registered siya sa FDA ng

country of origin.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Iyong drug mismo?

MR. DOMINGO. Iyon pong drug mismo.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Of course.

SEN. BINAY. Pero kasi, Usec Domingo, ang nagiging problema

iyong cost.

MR. DOMINGO. Yes. Cost.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Very prohibitive.

SEN. BINAY. Mahal if we import the drug. So nakikita ninyo ho

ba iyong scenario that eventually we will produce that component?

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Improvement.

Improvement that the efficacy, kung na-prove na natin lahat. Would you

recommend?

MR. DOMINGO. Opo.

SEN. BINAY. Hindi, USFDA approved na itong isang drug.

MR. DOMINGO. Opo.

SEN. BINAY. So kung tutuusin, baka pwedeng i-produce na siya

dito sa Philippines.

MR. DOMINGO. Yes. But if it is going to be a new product po

that is manufactured in the Philippines, it will have to go through the

regular development process. So marami rin pong research na

pagdadaanan iyon from phase 1 to phase 3 clinical research.

SEN. BINAY. But you are open to that idea?

MR. DOMINGO. Yes, ma’am. Iyong research naman po, as long

as it goes through the proper regulation which--hindi naman po kami

talaga against doon sa research at saka compassionate use. I think

what everybody here is saying we already have the mechanism that

allows it to be done. Papayagan naman po ng DDB--

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). So is there really existing

research already? Not yet? When do we start?

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MR. DOMINGO. Ang mayroon po ngayon tayo sa PITAHC pero

pre-clinical pa po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Pre-clinical.

MR. DOMINGO. So this is mga community studies.

SEN. BINAY. Iyon na nga. How do we start the process of—Kasi,

hindi ba, parang in the--

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Yes, because siguro iyon

ang nag-aano—If I may? Dagdagan ko lang. Palagay ko iyong point ni

Senator Binay, like me, marami na ngayon kasing ganito ang situation

who are already helpless. Iba rin iyong pakiramdam na nakikita mong

inaatake. So I hope that we can already start the research at least,

Senator Binay. I think that is the ano na masimulan na natin.

SEN. BINAY. Oo. Kasi, I think in everything, ang pinakamahirap

iyong unang hakbang. So how do we start the process? Kasi nga, hindi

ba, kumbaga may buhay tayo na hinahabol. So I guess iyon din iyong

sigurong naririnig kong common complaint is parang it’s--you kept on

saying that there is already a process in place for them to avail. Kaso

lang parang ang perception is…

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Parang medyo mahirap.

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SEN. BINAY. …ang hirap ng proseso. So siguro while we are

discussing this bill, baka pwede na tayong magkaroon ng steps to make

the process easier.

MR. DOMINGO. Madam Chair, mag-a-apply lang naman po sa

DDB and then sa FDA. Wala pa po kasi, ma’am, nag-a-apply for

research.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Baka naman ang akala nila

na napakahirap, hindi na sila nagsusubok. So probably it came from our

agency heads already that basta lang ho may process that you will apply,

and then probably they will process as long as there is basis. Siguro if

the conditions are proven, probably it will be approved.

SEN. BINAY. Siguro, Mr. Chair, ang nagiging isang problema din

is funding. Kunwari ho, assuming na makakahanap tayo ng funding for

this study, will DOH be open to productive one?

MR. DOMINGO. Yes, Madam Chair. Even the UP—the National

Institute of Health would like to create a working study group for this.

So mayroon naman po. We have experts to do it. We have the facilities

to do it. And we have--what we say is we have the mechanism to do it.

Kailangan lang po talagang mag-apply.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). At least the department is

ano--

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SEN. BINAY. On your own, kahit walang applicant, hindi ba

pwedeng kayo na iyong magte-take ng lead doon sa pag-conduct ng

research?

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Can I speak po?

Hindi ho kasi ganoon kadaling mag-conduct ng research. Ang

National Institute of Drug Abuse sa America po mayroon na silang

plantation. They commissioned the University of Mississippi to conduct

research. Matagal na ho iyon. In 2017, they spent $140 million for the

research. Over the years, ang lumabas lang ho nilang data, there is a

certain variety that might be effective for pain. Hindi ho iyong Epidiolex

kasi plant iyong kanila. But ang sinasabi nila is this is not the variety

that is available in all the dispensaries in the United States. And then,

iyong pong sinasabing hindi in-approve ng FDA, in fairness to the FDA,

I think the one that is being applied was an extract with no evidence of

benefit. Naiintindihan po naman natin na mahal iyong gamot kasi ang

hirap po kasing i-extract ng cannabidiol…/smv/imjv

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MS. CABRAL-LIM. …i-extract ng cannabidiol. Iyon po kasing

marijuana kaya tinawag na pot, madali hong itanim iyan. Pero ang

tumutubo po diyan na madali, iyong nakaka-affect ng pag-iisip, iyong

may psychoactive. Sadly, iyong nakakagamot, kakaunti iyong

component, mahirap po siyang i-produce.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). That’s why it’s very

expensive.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Yes. So halimbawa po, magtanim tayo. Kung

magtatanim ka sa bakod mo, hindi ho pareho ng itatanim mo sa north

kung nakatira ka sa north, depende po sa soil, depende sa climate,

depende sa rainfall. So I would think iyong bago tayong umabot sa

stage na makapag-produce tayo ng variety that will be medicinal, I think

that’s good if we can do that right away. Pero halimbawa pong ma-

reschedule natin iyong certain forms, like with the very low cannabidiol

content that will be allowed by the international narcotics board, maaari

po iyon na pwedeng clinical trials na pwedeng i-apply sa DDB and then

you will look at the patients, kasi hindi naman natin pwedeng sabihin

unethical iyong isang grupo walang Cannabis, iyong isa mayroon, kasi

hindi naman po talagang proven benefit. Meaning, lahat po tayo kapag

uminom ng isang gamot, pwede mong sabihing, “Ako, maganda ang

pakiramdam ko, I feel good.” The other person is not necessarily—

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Depende rin ano? Depende

sa reaction din, iba-iba.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Oo. Pero ang science po ngayon, mayroon

tayong pharmacogenomic center, nandoon na nga tayo sa tinitingnan

iyong—kung ikaw ay ganitong sakit, kukunan ka ng DNA study, titingnan

pati iyong gamot na magkakaroon ng kaunting…

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Effect.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. ...allergy sa iyo. Ganoon na po iyong

direction. And then we want to approve dispensing a plant na walang

ebidensiya na makakatulong siya, para po nating pinag-e-

eksperimentuhan ang pasyente.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Sige po.

MS. CABRAL-LIM. Naintindihan po natin iyong cause. Pero kung

ako po ang pasyente maski po ibigay mo sa akin ng libre, kung sasabihin

mo sa aking, “Hindi ako sure kung makakatulong sa iyo, depende sa

mga pagsusuri at hindi ko alam ang long-term effect sa iyo,” hindi ko po

iyon kukunin, hindi ko tatanggapin. Pero naintindihan ko po iyong

dilemma ng mga pasyenteng may drug resistance seizures. Ako po ay

epileptologist. All my life ang advocacy ko is promoting epilepsy care.

Tatlong dekada ko na pong pinaglalaban iyan sa Department of Health.

So finally ho, nagkaroon na kami—na included na kami sa Department

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of Health program. At kami po ay committed to help the Department of

Health to promote epilepsy care. Iyon nga lang noong sa Philippine

General Hospital, iyon nga lang hong pambili ng conventional anti-

epileptic drugs, walang pambili. Kasi ang scenario po sa epilepsy, 70

percent ng pasyente kayang gamutin ng primary care, magre-respond.

We have a 20, 30 percent there who are difficult to treat. And globally

ho pinag-aaralan iyan, hindi lang ho tayo. Pero siyempre, parang sa

amin din ho, mahirap din hong tanggapin na being specialist, we still

have a gap out there. Pero at the same time, obligasyon naman ho

namin na huwag magbigay ng isang substance na possibility’ng

(possibility) magka-epekto sa bata. Lalo na ho sa kanila, pediatric

neurologist, these are children, it affects the developing brain. Epilepsy

is a chronic condition. Kagaya po nangyayari sa ibang herbal, iyong

ibang may diabetes, akala nila ampalaya, pwede na ang ampalaya so

they stop the medications then they take the ampalaya. So if you

legalize, these patients with epilepsy can even think na, “Oh, mas mura

iyan, bibili na lang ako ng capsule sa dispensary kasi mas mura and then

iinumin ko.” Wala hong data sa mga epilepsy na easy to treat. Kaya

nga ho pinag-aaralan iyan for difficult to treat. But I would think—

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you po, Doc. Sorry

to cut you but we only have less than 20 minutes and we still have four.

We’ll get back at you again later on.

Si Mr. Chuck Manansala, and probably those doctors that are on

the other side, siguro, please, quickly na lang ho so that we can all hear

your positions.

Mr. Chuck Manansala, and then Dr. Quijano, Dr. Reyes, doon po

sa position ng principal author which is Congressman Albano.

MR. MANANSALA. Thank you very much, Senator Ejercito, and

good afternoon, Senator Binay, and all the other stakeholders in this

legislative action on medical Cannabis.

Nag-a-apply na po kami sa inyo ngayon na maging research

center. Binago ko na ng kaunti ang aking statement.

Masikhay is a nonprofit research center focused on the scientific

study of Cannabis and its medicinal properties. Our objective is to help

develop Cannabis medicine in finished dosage form that will pass the

standards set by the Food and Drug Administration. We aim to help

create a medical Cannabis system that empowers doctors and patients.

We fully support all efforts to promote medical Cannabis and uphold the

people’s right to health.

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We see HB 6517 or the Philippine Compassionate Medical Cannabis

Act as a step in the right direction. It creates a legal framework and the

regulatory environment that provides safe, available, and affordable

access to medical Cannabis. It complements RA 9165 and is congruent

with the regulations of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

Passing the medical Cannabis bill will surely be a cause for

celebration among the hopefuls. For instance—it is an old data but Dr.

Quimpo presented a newer one—in 2007, there were an estimated

750,000 Filipinos with epilepsy in the country but their estimate is about

25 percent would be intractable to current medical therapy. Cannabis

may help in reducing epileptic seizure.

According to the Philippine Cancer Society figures in 2015, at least

98,000 Filipinos are diagnosed with cancer each year, with 59,000 of

these dying. Seventy-five percent of them die with intense pain.

Cannabis may provide effective pain relief or serve as an adjuvant. But

we clarify that having a law is just the start of a long and arduous

process of seeking approval from the FDA before the medicine becomes

available whether the product is imported or locally manufactured.

There is great urgency in passing a medical Cannabis law.

We take particular notice that HB 6517 is explicit in providing for

expanding research into the medicinal properties of Cannabis. It is

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auspicious that the Dangerous Drugs Board (DDB) has already issued

the guideline under which Masikhay and other research centers can

operate. We presently maintain a database of published research,

literature, and clinical studies from reputable medical and scientific

journals and institutions providing solid proof on the medical efficacy of

Cannabis for various ailments.

Our immediate goal is to collect, characterize, develop and

cultivate local Cannabis strains to lay the scientific basis and good

manufacturing process to create new and affordable Cannabis medicine

based on whole plant extracts here in the Philippines. We will adhere to

DDB’s Board Regulation No. 1, Series of 2014 which is about the

comprehensive guidelines on importation, distribution, manufacture,

prescription, dispensing and sale of, and other lawful acts in connection

with any dangerous drugs, controlled precursors and essential chemicals

and other similar or analogous substances and shall operate under the

prescribed rules in Section 14, titled, “Permits in Relation to Laboratory

Use and/or Programs for Medical and/or Scientific Research or

Instructional Training Programs.”

HB 6517 lays down the legal framework for providing access to

medical Cannabis. It prescribes very tight regulations and mechanism

to prevent illicit traffic and abuse. In fact, we do hope that the final

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version of the bill does not become too restrictive and makes it very

difficult to access, bureaucratic, and too expensive. Let us all aim to

create affordable access to the medicine.

As a side note, GW Pharmaceutical, the manufacturer of Epidiolex

has announced that their estimated cost would be roughly $32,500 a

year or roughly $2,708 a month, $677 a week and $96 a day. The good

Doctor Cabral cited specific data coming from the US and Canada. I

submit that this is not…/rea/alcc

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MR. MANANSALA. ...I submit that this is not applicable in the

Philippines. Because in Canada and the US, patients are allowed to use

Cannabis on self-definition and they are also allowed to plant Cannabis

at home. It is impossible to do that in the Philippines under regulations,

9165, and especially under HB 6517 which personally to me is very, very

restrictive because it only allows cultivation by licensed growers to

create the medicine. Possession is still illegal.

So, the danger of abuse and dangers to mental health is

impossible because everything will be done under the supervision of a

qualified physician.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Mr. Manansala,

please wrap up because we have a session. We can’t have ano—

MR. MANANSALA. Sige, I will wrap up.

So, we were the first in Asia to initiate legislation for medical

Cannabis but we have been overtaken by two East Asian countries. Last

year, South Korea and Thailand amended their narcotic laws and

legalized medical Cannabis. They have become the first in Asia to

properly enter into the international Cannabis market which has been

estimated to reach $55.8 billion by 2025. Medical Cannabis may yet

prove to be a boon to our economy.

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We have the opportunity for the Philippines to assert a leading role

in developing innovative medicine. We have made a great leap in having

herbal medicine as part of our arsenal to fight disease. The Philippines

is known as the home of world-class caregivers known for being kind,

cheerful, and compassionate. With the passage of HB 6517 and with

positive action from the Senate, we are simply being true to our nature.

Thank you very much.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Thank you, Mr.

Manansala.

Before we go back to Dr. Gem—si Dr. Quijano, same naman kayo,

ano? We’ll go back to you also, Dr. Gem. Probably, Dr. Reyes, after.

Siguro si Dr. Gem Mutia and then I’ll go to Dr. Reyes, then we’ll go back

to the others.

Would you like to say anything?

MR. MUTIA. Good afternoon, Honorable Senator JV and

Honorable Senator Nancy. Thank you for this opportunity.

May I just present very quickly my presentation?

Next slide, please. I’ll just wrap up very—

So, I’m just here to educate a little bit everyone that the reason

Cannabis—

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Dr. Mutia, you are a doctor

of medicine?

MR. MUTIA. Yes, sir. I am a medical doctor.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Medical doctor.

MR. MUTIA. The reason Cannabis causes changes in the body is

because there are cannabinoids inside all mammals right now. They are

involved in physiological, ibig sabihin, normal processes. And there is

current hypothesis that the decreased amount of these circulating

cannabinoids actually cause diseases.

Next slide po. Next po.

So iyon pong sinasabi ko, iyon po iyong “endocannabinoid

system.” So, the endocannabinoid system, it’s not actually an organ

system because it’s actually a receptor system all over the body. I

mentioned this because I agree with Dr. Cabral-Lim that doctors do not

know how Cannabis works in the body. Because me personally, I got

licensed just six years ago and Cannabis is not studied as a medicine.

It is studied as a substance of abuse. But this study just shows us that

there is a gap in the knowledge because, actually, the endocannabinoid

system is very vital in health and in disease and we are not studying it

as of the moment.

Next slide po.

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Just to summarize again the normal physiological functions of

these cannabinoids, hindi po marijuana, iyong natural cannabinoids

which are isomers or analogs, identical chemicals of the compounds

found in marijuana, their main function is to help us eat, relax, forget,

and protect normally.

Next slide, please. Next po.

Kaunting pharmacology na po ito. I-skip na po natin.

Next po.

So virtually, every organ system po, day-to-day activities of every

organ is under the influence of the natural cannabinoids in the body.

Ngayon po, this is very recent review, 2018, systematic review from the

European Journal of Internal Medicine, just to quote that they, the

researchers, found that there is conclusive evidence already, conclusive

evidence for pain, for muscles spasticity and multiple sclerosis, and

chemotherapy associated with nausea and vomiting. And there are

other diseases as well not that rich pa in evidence.

So it’s not that there is no evidence, it’s just that the research is

not that—Because again, just what Dr. Quimpo said, not all research is

the same. The weight of the evidence, it differs. But there are other

diseases pa currently studied abroad.

Next slide po.

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So, again, that’s for the therapeutic indications. Next, this is the

side effects. What harms does Cannabis cause? So, kanina ang usapan

natin was the endocannabinoids, natural cannabinoids in the body, then

we went to the therapeutic applications of supplementing the

cannabinoids in the body from cannabinoids from the plant.

Now, these are the side effects of exogenous cannabinoids when

taken. Just to mention that it doesn’t mention anywhere there mortality,

all-cause mortality or death. Cannabis does not cause death directly.

But we totally agree with the example cited kanina, it does cause lack

of motor coordination. So you are prone to vehicular accidents and not

contra-indicated for those who operate machineries. But then again, we

don’t expect cancer patients and epileptic children to drive vehicles and

operate heavy machinery.

And then it is also important there that Cannabis causes addiction.

Cannabis causes addiction, it is very important. But, if you can see

there—

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). …because as stated by the

two doctors earlier, iyong dependence, pag chronic especially magiging

dependent na talaga, magiging addict.

How do we treat that para hindi mag-ano iyong addiction? How

can we prevent?

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MR. MUTIA. Well, just to show you—next slide po. Ayan po,

iyan. Dependence po, this is for illicit substances.

And then, next slide.

Prescription drugs po also causes 14 percent dependence

compared to Cannabis which causes only 9 percent dependence. So,

tama po. Maski anong klaseng gamot, kung magko-cause ng

dependence, as much as possible—

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Like pain relievers.

Sometimes, pain relievers.

MR. MUTIA. Yes po. But then again, kung titingnan ninyo po sa

side ng mga may high blood, diabetes, these are chronic conditions,

kung maintenance po iyon, I can’t call myself addicted or dependent if I

really need to take them. Lahat ba ng may high blood and diabetes—

And then last na lang po—next slide po—ito po. This is an

observational study in the US, in states where medical Cannabis is legal.

From 2010 to 2013, the patients—medical marijuana laws reduced

prescription medication use. So nabawasan po ang mga maintenance

medications ng mga pasyente sa mga lugar kung saan legal po ang

Cannabis and ang karamihan po sa mga gamot na pinalitan po, nandito

sa may left, iyong mga pain medications po. Iyong iba pang mga

indications po diyan sa ibang sakit. Iyan po iyong mga pinalitan ng

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Cannabis. And iyong nasa right po, iyong figures pong iyan, iyong

amount—Because it causes drop in prescription medication use, it also

lowers healthcare cost and that’s in hundreds of millions of dollars per

year saved because medical Cannabis was implemented.

So, next slide po.

Actually, last slide ko na po ito. Trivia lang po sa mga tao na,

actually, iyong pioneer ng Cannabis research sa Pinas, walang iba kung

hindi ang pinakatanyag na doctor sa Pinas, Dr. Jose Rizal. Siya po ang

pinaka-earliest—According sa kanyang diary, na “Even though no book,

no historian that I know of speaks of any plant similar to that in hashish,”

at that time, he opened his mind and actually kind of pioneered research.

Because laging sinasabing, “Walang research, walang research.” At this

time po, it already opened the mind of the most famous physician of the

country.

So, in summary po, gusto ko lang pong iparating na Cannabis po—

Agree po ako doon sa position kanina na “first do no harm.” And in that

line, I think we should prescribe the safer medications first before pa

iyong mga mas toxic po na maraming side effects, and safer…/jtbc/peg

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MR. MUTIA. …maraming side effects and safer medications first

before pa iyong mga mas toxic po na maraming side effects, and safer,

and it is effective and sometimes in some states it lowers health care

costs. Actually po hindi ko na po nasama that it is actually better. There

are few studies that when Cannabis was…

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Sorry ha, but I have to cut

you because we have to go in plenary.

MR. MUTIA. Thank you so much, sir.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). We cannot continue with the

plenary ongoing, we are prohibited.

Dr. Reyes, we would like to hear the position of the main author of

this measure, this controversial measure.

Ma’am.

MS. REYES. Thank you so much, Honorable JV Ejercito and

Senator Binay.

Finally, after four years of hard work and sustained advocacy, the

proposed Philippine Compassionate Medical Cannabis Act, authored by

Representative Rodolfo Albano III has reached the Senate. HB 6517 has

undergone various incarnations in its long journey: as HB 4477 in the

Fifteenth Congress and HB 180 in the Sixteenth Congress. Enormous

thanks to the 163 Members of the Seventeenth House of

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Representatives who believed in the medical use of marijuana. I am

terribly disappointed, actually, with the position now being taken by

DOH, by DDB, and by PDEA. They were consulted all throughout the

process of crafting this bill, and we thought they were already in our

pockets. In fact, we have talked about four—I mean, we already have

their support. That’s what I meant. And to be very honest, we have

talked to four DOH secretaries, and this is the fourth. And may I advise

the Department of Health to please look at the current version of the

bill because they are no longer hospital-based medical Cannabis

compassionate centers. We agree with you that these will strain and

drain the resources of hospitals, so they are no longer there. So can

you please look at the new bill?

HB 6517, Senator Ejercito, as early as 2014, we have conducted

consultations with doctors, with government agencies, with human

rights lawyers, with patients. So, it’s not like it’s only now that we are

hearing these arguments, and we have heard these.

Now, HB 6517, actually has one of the strictest regulatory

frameworks among countries that have legalized medical marijuana.

DOH, in consultation with FDA, is the principal regulatory agency,

while PDEA shall have a key role in monitoring and regulating the

dispensation of medical Cannabis. It shall maintain a registry of

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qualified medical physicians and caregivers. DDB, on the other hand,

shall identify specific areas for the cultivation of medical Cannabis and

formulate guidelines with respect to cultivation, importation, production,

and distribution of medical Cannabis. PDEA shall issue the appropriate

license and permits, and shall maintain a Cannabis Plant Monitoring

System.

HB 6517 values local research on marijuana thus mandates that

120 days from the approval of the Act, the DOH shall authorize the

National Institutes of Health of UP-Manila, the Health Sciences Centers

of the UP System, and the Philippine Institute of Traditional and

Alternative Health Care or PITAHC to conduct research in the medical

use of Cannabis. However, we also recognize and are guided by “gold

standard” research abroad that uses FDA clinical trial design such as

those conducted by the University of California Center for Medical

Cannabis Research published in 2012 at the Open Neurology Journal

which concluded that based on evidence currently available, marijuana

ought to be the “first line treatment” for patients with neuropathy and

other serious illnesses.

I also like to inform Dr. Cabral-Lim that there are actually 21

reputable medical organizations in the U.S. that support the legalization

of medical Cannabis, contrary to what you said that there is no medical

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association that endorses medical Cannabis. Also for the doctors—aside

from the doctors that you have here, we have also in the U.S. in 2014,

about 70 percent of the physicians in the U.S. believe that medical

marijuana should be legalized and that marijuana has therapeutic

qualities. This based on a survey of 1,544 doctors from 12 different

specialties living in 48 states. The majority who supported medical

Cannabis were oncologists and hematologists who believe that it can be

used to ease cancer pain and nausea related to chemotherapy and to

stimulate appetite.

I know that you are very, very much in a hurry, Senator Ejercito.

Now, HB 6517 has tried to cover all bases that are controversial to

some, but not too many. So I don’t understand this, you know, repeat,

repeat, repeat, repeat these arguments. I’ve heard this one thousand

and a million times. We hope that the Senate will find our bill acceptable

and adopt the House version.

We look forward to the enactment into law of the medical use of

marijuana in the country.

Abot-kamay na ang tagumpay, Senator Ejercito and all the

members of the Committee on Health. Sama-sama na tayo sa medical

marijuana.

Salamat po.

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Dr. Reyes.

You haven’t changed, 30 years.

She was one of my very first teachers in the majors when she was

head of the Political Science Department a few years ago, about 1987,

to be exact—1988.

MS. REYES. Salamat po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). But you look younger na

because you had Ms. Tapia glasses back then.

MS. REYES. Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). I just like to ask a question

siguro before we wrap up. Ito iyong mga medyo importante, the

advocates and the …gaano ba kahirap ang mag-apply? Because

according to our doctors here, the other side, from PGH, PDEA, DDB,

and the Department of Health that there’s no need for legislation

because to the compassionate use—doon po sa provision ng DDB, and

it can be accessed. So gaano ba kahirap ang mag-apply? Anybody can

answer.

Sige, si Riciel.

MS. BALLESTEROS. I personally applied po.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Opo.

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MS. BALLESTEROS. I’m already on my second year. And just a

week ago I got an email coming from them na the one that I should

apply for should be the one that is approved from the source. In fact,

I’m trying to access a Haleigh’s Hope which is currently po USDA

organics ang classification, more on food, but up to this time hindi pa

rin po ako nakakakuha ng result. We are already on my second year

application.

And plus, if I may just say that one of the provisions po for the

compassionate permit is that you just need the dose that you are

needing. So it’s like you have it for two months, three months. So it

means that you are going to apply again for the next. So in terms of

the effort po of going to the FDA, and applying it like every two months

or three months. Kasi it’s explicit po that you need to put prescriptions

on the number of the items that you need.

So when you look at the patient, when you look at the profile, these

are parents mostly na hindi nga makaalis because of the condition of the

children. So, in terms po of accessibility and in terms of sustainability,

and mostly po in terms of the Epidiolex that is already approved, we

cannot afford it because its $30,000, it’s a 145,000 a month. Kasi before

po kami humarap sinource (source) ko na din po siya if I cannot afford

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it. And to be very honest, I can afford it maybe two times, but it will

never be sustainable.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). FDA, can we hear from you?

Ano po iyong process? How come they are saying that it’s quite hard to

get the approval. Sige po, para lang magkaintindihan po tayo before we

go on because we can have another hearing after this.

MS. AUSTRIA-LOCK. Opo. Your Honor, doon sa unang concern

po na hindi napasok kasi hindi pa registered, one of the requirement po

is the drug that should be brought in, it has to be registered from the

country of origin.

Doon naman po sa quantity po na kailangan, kung ang kailangan

po ay supply for one year, ilalagay lang po sa prescription ng doktor na

ganoon po kadami ang kailangan. Kasi naka-specify po ang pangalan

ng pasyente, ang dosage form po, ang dosage strength, at iyong

quantity po eksakto. So, kung ang supply na kailangan ay for one year,

ang ilalagay lang po sa prescription ay for one year. So iyon po ang

aaprubahan namin.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Quickly lang,

tapusin—I will go to you also, quite quickly.

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Kay Dr. Reyes. Marami ho kayong binanggit kasi na mga

requirements: regulatory framework, DOH, DDB. Marami ho will be

involved. So, do you have any estimate how much will the government

need to establish this regulatory framework and the other things that

you spoke in the bill?

MS. REYES. Initially, we said, Senator Ejercito, that this will be

charged to the budget of the Department of Health. Now, to start with,

well, what about 250 million?…/mrjc/mva

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MS. REYES. …what about 250 million? After all, there is so

much money around in government. [Laughter]

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Two hundred fifty million

for the research.

MS. REYES. That’s small, that is peanuts.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). We will go back, ma’am,

for a while. Mayroon pa akong isa, last, Dr. Angel Magalona Gomez or

whoever. Silang dalawa. Quickly na lang po. Either, sino po? Seniority,

sir, Dr. Quijano.

MR. QUIJANO. May oras ba para ipakita iyong pitong slides sa

PowerPoint.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Sige po. Paki bilisan na lang

po.

MR. QUIJANO. Nandoon sa secretariat iyong PowerPoint.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Can you show the seven

slides? Can you do it in three minutes? Sorry, kasi we cannot have

simultaneous--bawal po kasi pag plenary.

MR. QUIJANO. Umpisahan ko na lang ho. Habang pinapakita

iyan puwedeng umpisahan ko na.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Sige po.

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MR. QUIJANO. Kung titingnan po natin iyong safety and efficacy,

huwag lang po nating gamitin iyong western parameters on science

which I--

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Probably you can just

submit this presentation to me. Probably iyong brief ninyo na lang.

Sige po. Iyong pinaka-summary. Sige po.

MR. QUIJANO. Okay. Ang gusto ko lang pong sabihin ay dapat

gamitin din natin iyong historical evidence which we have a lot. In fact,

we recognize that. Even WHO--

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Doc, you are a doctor of

medicine as well?

MR. QUIJANO. Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Yes. Thank you.

MR. QUIJANO. As you can see I am a retired professor of

toxicology and pharmacology sa College of Medicine.

We recognize in fact the value of historical knowledge about

medicinal plants. So this is well-established so we should also consider

that. Even if we’d lack definitive scientific evidence, we should not be

restricted by the parameters of scientific evidence imposed by reduction

in science. There are things that we consider the mechanisms of

pharmacologic efficacy and this has been well-established as presented

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by Dr. Angel Mutia. So, if we have a good explanation for the purported

therapeutic usefulness of certain herbal medicine, that is a very big

boost to the scientific evidence that it carries.

And third, we have sufficient scientific evidence to show the

significant therapeutic benefits from Cannabis. And this has been in

fact basically the conclusion of a recent WHO expert committee which

is shown there, WHO expert committee on drug dependence who met

June 4 to 7, 2018. And basically, the committee--I’ll just be citing some

significant excerpts from the conclusions of this committee.

` As far as toxicology is concerned, for example, cannabidiol, there

should be no controversy about this. The potential toxic effects of CBD

have been extensively reviewed contrary to the claims that there is a

lot of scientific evidence of toxicity. In fact, the contrary is true. And

with the recent update of the literature in general, CBD has been found

to have relatively low toxicity. Of course, not all potential toxic effects

can be covered.

Next slide, please. And across the number of controlled and open

label trials, cannabidiol of the potential therapeutic--CBD, it is generally

well. Meaning, the evidence for scientific efficacy is quite good. And

this is WHO expert committee conclusion.

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Next slide, please. In epilepsy it has been mentioned so I won’t

repeat that because even Doctor--the colleagues there admit the

efficacy on epilepsy but I just like to add that there are more studies

showing good therapeutic efficacy.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). I think you agreed for

epilepsy. Kaya lang ang sa kanila kasi that there are--they can already

obtain through existing regulations sa kanila, iyon po ang sa kanilang

position, I think.

MR. QUIJANO. Well, sa kanyang sitwasyon, Senador,

nababahala lang ako baka hindi na naman maka-access iyong ating mga

kababayan na mahihirap.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). We are trying to find ways

also.

MR. QUIJANO. Kaya dapat magkaroon din sana ng puwang para

ang mga mahihirap ay magkaroon din ng access at ang pinakamadaling

access--

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Ang presyo masyadong

mataas.

MR. QUIJANO. At hindi lang iyong pure compounds dapat.

Dapat iyong locally produced na therapeutic standardized modalities

should be available na ginawa natin iyan sa sambong, lagundi at iba pa

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na nasa national formulary na. Kaya hindi tayo dapat palimita doon sa

pure compounds. At again, maski iyong mismong pinaka-ingredient na

masyadong vilified, iyong nakaka-high, iyong THC, ito ay who conclusion

sa toxicology. Lethal dose, the toxicity of tetrahydro-cannabinol is very

low compared to most other recreational and pharmaceutical drugs. In

fact, I would say that THC is safer than paracetamol compared to the

others. If you look at the number of mortality per year, scientific data

shows that there are more deaths in paracetamol compared to THC or

Cannabis.

Next please. Adverse reactions in humans. One of the studies

cited by the WHO expert committee which is one of the largest and

longest running trials which assessed the efficacy of daily oral 9 THC

administration for three years in multiple sclerosis patients, so it was

demonstrated. The efficacy was demonstrated but not only the efficacy

but also the safety.

Next please. So, as much as Cannabis safety profile is concerned,

Cannabis is much safer than methamphetamine and other dangerous

drugs. Cannabis is much safer than many prescription drugs that have

been approved by the FDA. Cannabis is in fact safer than many over-

the-counter medicines and many ordinary beverages. For example,

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iyong mga stimulants kagaya ng mga Cobra at kung anu-ano pa. Mas

delikado pa iyang mga over-the-counter drinks na iyan.

Sunod po. Ito iyong nagpapakita lang ng data sa LD 50 and if

you compare that makikita natin na THC is much safer than many other

prescription drugs here.

Sunod po. At iyong mortality per year, ito ay nabanggit ko

kanina, based on existing records, of course, it may not be complete.

You can see the comparative--you might say dangers from taking these

different substances and you compare that with Cannabis.

Next please. So, maybe as a conclusion, since we are pressed for

time, depriving access to medicinal Cannabis is a violation of the basic

human right to health. Every person has the right to the highest

sustainable standard of health. This basic human right includes the

right to access necessary medicines and if you make it too restrictive, I

think that is a violation of the basic right. Medicinal Cannabis is

undoubtedly a necessary medicine for many patients, I think that cannot

be denied. Preventing these patients from accessing medicinal Cannabis

is a violation of the fundamental human right to health.

Marami pong salamat.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay, Dr. Quijano,

maraming salamat po.

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Anyway, last siguro. We would like to hear from Dr. Manuel

Panopio, president of Philippine College of Addiction Medicine and chief,

health program officer of the DOH, Drug Treatment and Rehabilitation

Center, Bicutan.

MR. PANOPIO. Thank you, Senator JV. Tanggapin po ninyo ang

pasasalamat ko. Bagamat huli okay na rin.

But allow me to point out some salient features of the primer on

the House bill of what we are talking about, about the compassionate

use of Medical Cannabis Act. Remember, that it is intended out of

compassion to help qualified patients avail of medical Cannabis.

Number two, there is already scientific evidence to prove that

Cannabis has medical effects both palliative and therapeutic.

Number three, it does not legalize the general use of Cannabis or

marijuana because there is already an existing law with regard to the

prohibited drugs, the Comprehensive Dangerous Drugs Act of 2002.

With regard to the use and possession of the marijuana are left as is.

There have been scientific evidence and clinical trials showing the

efficacy of medical marijuana. Let us not close our doors, more so our

eyes with regard to such kind of literatures. Let us not be partial in

looking for research findings or clinical trials that will defend our vested

position regarding this House bill. But instead let us try to offer an

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alternative medicine or drug aside from the available armamentarium of

medicines that might and that will be beneficial for patients and

desperate parents or relatives in their quest to alleviate the suffering of

their loved ones.

True there is an Administrative Order No. 4 of Series of 1992. But

the process is quite too tedious. May I remind you, number one, you

have a written commitment on the part of all the authorized specialists

to submit a clinical case study report annually.

Number two, an estimate of the total product of one year.

Number three, a waiver of the BFAD responsibility from any

damage or injury arising from the use of the unregistered drug.

Number four, the society shall submit the clinical case study

report through the drug device establishment at the end of the year.

Failure to comply shall be grounds for denial of application of your

permit. The aforementioned procedure to avail of the medicine is

tedious on the part of the doctor and the specialized institution or

specialty division and probably costly on the part of the patients since it

will be imported…/admasicap/trs

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MR. PANOPIO. … since it will be imported.

As physicians, we have the professional obligations to our patients

and considering that our patients have to receive a high-quality of

medical care, it is of utmost importance that Cannabis-based medicines

meet the same standards we apply to other prescription medicines.

As in all medicines, priority will have to be the health of the public

especially in controlled substance—drugs that have abuse potential like

marijuana.

If marijuana is found to be effective and beneficial, in terms of

the chemicals found in the substance, then doctors should prescribe by

non-toxic routes of administration in controlled doses just like all other

medicines.

As literature says, the approval of the medical marijuana should

not be decided upon by the voting public or by the ballot but instead

should be decided upon by knowledgeable people like all of you in this

room and, of course, the Judiciary and the field of medicine.

As doctors in the field of addiction, any medicine is subject to

abuse or dependence. Morphine, which is derived from opium, is being

abused and is being used on terminally ill patients suffering from chronic

and severe pain. Medicines like phenobarbitals and benzodiazepines

like diazepam, Valium, Dormicums are prone to be abused.

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All drugs of therapeutic uses has been approved after research

and evidence-based findings. However, the risk of dependence

sometimes outweighs the therapeutic benefits. So we clinicians, in

prescribing medications that are of abusive potential, should inform and

educate our patients for the development of dependence and addiction.

Physicians who will, in the future, engage in medical marijuana

prescription, for that matter must be adequately be informed regarding

the composition, the dose of the Cannabis medicine and must have an

adequate training in identifying substance dependence and addiction.

Having cited all these, I did not come here to the Senate to argue

with any of the distinguished guests that were invited by Senator JV

Ejercito. Instead, I come here humbly appearing and appealing to all of

you to kindly leave a part in your mind whether it’s cognitive or in your

heart to at least be compassionate with regard to the allowance of our

bill.

Having said all of these, I leave it to the distinguished senator to

decide the fate of this House Bill 6517, known as the Compassionate Use

of Medical Cannabis Act, and thank you, sir, for the privilege.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Thank you, Dr. Manuel

Panopio.

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Well, Dr. Limpin would like to say something. Dr. Gomez, would

you like to say something also later? Unahin ko na muna si Dr. Limpin

and I’ll go back to you.

Okay. Dr. Limpin.

MS. LIMPIN. Thank you, Your Honor, for allowing me to speak

up. I’m speaking in behalf of the Philippine College of Physicians, also a

member of the Philippine Medical Association.

Very clear ho sa medical community that for us, there is really no

need for any new legislation because there is already an existing

process, an existing law that will allow compassionate use of medical

Cannabis.

Kung ang pinag-uusapan lang po natin ay tungkol sa—Narinig na

ho natin ang sinasabing long and arduous process. That is the main

reason why they want to have legalization of Cannabis. When you refer

to a long and arduous process, I wonder kung ano ho ba talaga ang ibig

nilang sabihin doon sa long and arduous process? Kasi po ako I have

tried applying for compassionate use for other drugs. Katulad po noong

isang pasyente ko na who has primary pulmonary hypertension and so

far the only evidence as far as we are concerned the use of like

Sildenafil.

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In the US para maging mas specific iyong gamot, ang talagang

approved under the US FDA is iyong brand name na Revatio. Okay.

Iyong Revatio po is not available in the country. And since the patient

had the experience of being given Revatio for pulmonary hypertension

ay nakita kong maganda ang effect sa kanya because it was able to

reduce the pulmonary pressures in that patient. So I myself applied doon

sa ating FDA for the use of Revatio for this particular patient. Hindi

naman ho nagkaproblema. Kasi, una, approved siya sa source which is

in the US and then, secondly, ay nakita talaga na mayroong evidence

na it will lessen the pulmonary hypertension of the patient. So hindi ko

po masyadong maintindihan iyong sinasabing long and arduous process

because naging available iyon sa pasyente. And I was able to talk to the

pharma company and the patient was able to get it at a much lower

cost. So it’s just a matter of trying to talk also to pharma companies.

Pangalawa po, it has been said often that we are depriving

Filipinos, the patients from the attainment of the highest standard of

health. Ano ho ba ang highest standard of health? Is it a high standard

for us to just allow the Filipinos to get medicine without being assured

of the safety of that medicine? Hindi naman ho highest standard iyon

kung ganoon. Kasi kailangan ho nating siguraduhin hindi lang ho

effective iyong gamot but that drug should be safe as well. Kaya ho kami

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po talagang nagpupumilit kailangan masiguro ho natin na bago kinukuha

ng mga pasyente ang gamot, kailangan ay magiging safe siya in the

long run.

So I hope that Your Honor will actually consider the position of the

medical community. Sinasabi ho kanina ni Dra. Socorro Reyes na naiinis

siya kasi parang biglang nagbago ang ihip ng hangin. Pero for the

longest time din po, Dra. Reyes, we have been firm in our position but

the problem is our voices were not heard in the House of

Representatives.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Thank you.

Dr. Angel Gomez, would you like to ano your position?

MR. GOMEZ. Yes, Mr. Chairman. I know you’re raring to go. Good

afternoon. I’m an anesthesiologist by training and as such, I deal with

the management of pain and the alleviation of suffering.

I see patients, many of them elderly, who are in search of

alternatives to conventional FDA-approved pharmaceuticals which for

one reason or another have proven to be unsatisfactory. Like your own

family member experienced, there is a benefit to it and that’s the only

evidence I need to want to explore how these medicines can further

relieve pain and suffering. And they come to me with the product, like

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you say, you don’t know how they got it but it’s there and I try to guide

them in its use. And like any clinician, I go low and slow and I want them

to understand that this is part of a process that, you know, we can go

through together and explore what works and what doesn’t. And I

disagree that the only products of pharmaceutical companies should be

prescribed and I just want to be part of this discovery because I’m a

firm believer in its efficacy and its safety.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). Okay. Thank you. Well,

probably this is not the last hearing. We still have to hear some positions

of our colleagues as well. I promised Senator Vicente Sotto that he’ll be

around. So probably, we’ll have another one.

I would like to thank all of you, all the resource persons for coming

this afternoon. It has been a very informative and productive hearing I

would say. Sorry for the time pressure for pressuring all of you, but we

only had two hours to hear all of you, your positions. But be rest assured

that probably to conclude—Of course, if it can alleviate the pain, the

suffering of those who have these conditions, why not? If it can prolong

the life, why not? But we have to make sure that the necessary

safeguards and measures are in place …/ngdizon/peg

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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. EJERCITO). … and measures are in place

so that we can prevent substance abuse and, likewise, to hear the other

side, the other medical practitioners that they want to make sure that

before we approve something, that all the research, iyong efficacy and

effectiveness has to be proven as well before they would support.

Probably, what we can do already is start the ball rolling by

continuing the research but DOH would already start the research. So

once and for all, we can already determine whether or not really medical

Cannabis would really be effective.

Anyway, I think may common ano naman positions that, indeed, it

relieves or prevents seizures. Iyon na iyong position kasi dito mayroon

nang—sa kanila, present laws are enough to obtain. But we will see. We

will have another one. At least we were able to say our positions of the

different organizations that are present.

Again, as chair of the Committee on Health, I would like to thank

everyone for coming: Secretary Cuy of DDB; Usec Benjamin Reyes; Usec

Domingo, our resident resource person of DOH; Atty. Katherine Austria-

Lock; and, of course, our expert panel of doctors. We have Dr. Rhea

Quimpo, Dr. Leonor Cabral-Lim, and Dr. Jose Santiago, and as well as

the other side, thank you very much for coming, Dr. Panopio, Dr. Mutia,

Dr. Gomez, Dr. Quijano, Dr. Manansala and, of course, the parents. Of

course, we feel for you. It’s very hard to see—I can just imagine how

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helpless you feel every time your child is undergoing seizure. We feel for

you.

Dr. Cunanan, again, and to my professor in the majors−nice to see

after 30 years. Who would have thought that we will see each other in

this setting? Thank you very much for your passion as well.

Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.

[THE HEARING ENDED AT 3:22 P.M.] (nam/jmb)

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