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5 . Ref: URGENT Unconstitutional State land taxes issue
Cc: Mr Robert Pincevic roblp@bigpond.com
AND TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
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Julia,
10 having lived for some time in Berriwillock (A small rural town in the Mallee – Victoria) I
became aware of the financial plight upon many farmers and others. When then Mr Robert
Pincevic on 31 August 2010 contacted me about being slugged State land Taxes I immediately
that day contacted NSW Premier Kristine Keneally about that in my view State land Taxes was
unconstitutional upon which I received the following response:
15 QUOTE 31 August 2010 correspondence
CMU10-16940
13 September 2010
Mr Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka
schorel-hlavka@schorel-hlavka.com
20
Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka
I write in response to your recent email to the Premier concerning land tax.
As the matter you have raised concerns the administration of the Treasurer, the Hon
Eric Roozendaal MLC, your email has been forwarded to the Treasurer for attention.
25 You may be sure that your letter will receive close consideration.
Yours sincerely
David Swain
for Director General
END QUOTE
30 .
Then after I complaint I still had not received any proper response I received another respo0nse I
would be provided with a response and finally received this on 8 March 2011 which response has
been reproduced below.
.
35 I refer to it being URGENT because despite that copies of correspondences were also forwarded
to both the then premier John Brumby and now Premier Ted Bailliue neither one of them seemed
to have bothered to address the issue either.
Many farmers and other land holders are in the meantime dragged through the courts for
enforcement of State Land Taxes even so the governments should be aware that they have no
40 constitutional validity in doing so. Lawyers representing land holders (and earning huge amounts
of moneys in the process) obviously neither are competent to appropriately deal with matters and
hence the need to have the OFFICE-OF-THE0-GUARDIAN to address issues like this
urgently. The OFFICE-OF-THE-GUARD being a constitutional council to advise the
Government, the People, the Parliament and the courts as to constitutional meaning and
45 applications. We cannot have that politicians knowingly and deliberately maintain
unconstitutional taxes and in the process ruin landholders by relying on that the government can
use consolidated revenue to thwart any attempt to pursue justice through the courts by engaging
highly paid lawyers. THIS MUST STOP!
The OFFICE-OF-THE-GUARD needs to be urgently part of Australia’s check and balances!
Mr. GORDON.-There will be more than one sentry. In the case of a federal law, every member
15 of a state Parliament will be a sentry, and, every constituent of a state Parliament will be a
sentry. As regards a law passed by a state, every man in the Federal Parliament will be a
sentry, and the whole constituency behind the Federal Parliament will be a sentry.
END QUOTE
Well, you and others are also sentries and cannot disregard your duties and obligations in that
20 regard.
You too should be deemed legally liable to have permitted this unconstitutional land taxes
system to continue under your watch as you have an obligation to act for the People to stop such
a rot.
HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
25 QUOTE
Mr. BARTON.-this Constitution is to be worked under a system of responsible government
END QUOTE
And
HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
30 QUOTE
Mr. BARTON.- We have simply said that the guarantee of the liberalism of this Constitution is
responsible government, and that we decline to impair or to infect in any way that guarantee.
END QUOTE
And
35 HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
Mr. BARTON.- Of course it will be argued that this Constitution will have been made by the
Parliament of the United Kingdom. That will be true in one sense, but not true in effect, because the
provisions of this Constitution, the principles which it embodies, and the details of enactment by which
40 those principles are enforced, will all have been the work of Australians.
END QUOTE
And
HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
45 Mr. BARTON.- Having provided in that way for a free Constitution, we have provided for an
Executive which is charged with the duty of maintaining the provisions of that Constitution; and,
therefore, it can only act as the agents of the people.
END QUOTE
Again there are numerous landholders who are struggling financially, and so also those affected
50 by recent floods even more, and yet it appears you have been so to say sitting on your hand to
permit this injustice to continue rather then to take action and deal with this.
This is not a matter for the courts to resolve because to take this opposition is TYRANNY where
the government becomes the oppressor! This is a matter that never should have eventuated in the
first place as clearly there are currently no check and balances to avoid this and hence the need
55 for the OFFICE-OF-THE-GUARD being a constitutional council to advise the Government,
the People, the Parliament and the courts as to constitutional meaning and applications.
On this day the Land Tax Office was established as a branch of Treasury, in a time of political tensions and
power struggle. Its purpose was to provide a central collection office to fund old age and invalid pensions.
Although federation was almost a decade old, there were still political, social and economic rivalries among
States because each considered itself a separate entity.
45 Andrew Fisher’s Labor government needed an instrument to collect funds for its social policies and it
campaigned for a Land Tax to target landowners who avoided paying tax on unimproved land.
Despite rigorous opposition from English investors and wealthy private landowners, the first Land Tax Act was
successfully introduced in 1910.
END QUOTE
50 .
http://www.ato.gov.au/print.asp?doc=/content/00229146.htm&page=6#P53_3984
QUOTE
In this decade:
1952 Federal Land Tax was abolished.
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As such it must be clear that from 1910 till 1952 the Commonwealth of Australia formally
legislated for and collected land Taxes.
5 The issue at hand therefore is if the States could validly legislate as to Land Taxes once the
Commonwealth abolished its LAND TAXES legislation in 1952.
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In my view, as a CONSTITUTIONALIST, The State no longer could retrieve any legislative
powers as such to legislate for their own respective states for land Tax and hence all and any
10 such taxes must be repaid. The Framers of the constitution made clear that any taxes raised
unconstitutionally was to be repaid to those who had paid the tax.
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For long I have campaigned for the government of all levels to have the OFFICE-OF-THE-
GUARDIAN, as a impartial, non-political advisor for the government, the people, the parliament
15 and the courts as to explain what is constitutionally permissible and what is not. Regretfully no
government has as yet taken up this offer/suggestion and as such no government can now excuse
itself if it has to repay land taxes as it now learns a lesson not to be ignorant to the constitution,
its meaning and application.
.
20 Below I will provide quotations and it will show that taxation must be uniform once it become
federal legislation and that the States no longer can exercise any legislative powers upon the
subject matter as soon as the commonwealth commences to do so.
It should be understood however that with regard of taxation the States can exercise legislative
powers on subjects the Commonwealth did not legislate upon.
25 .
The issue is that once the Commonwealth commenced to legislate as to Land Taxes then the
States no longer could legislate in regard of this. The constitution by way of s.51(xxvii) does
allow the States to refer legislative powers to the Commonwealth but not visa versa. It means
that when the Commonwealth abolished Land Tax legislation it nevertheless remained a federal
30 legislative power and the States therefore were prohibited to legislate as to land Taxation.
The Commonwealth could have authorised the States to “collect” Land Taxes, but because it had
become since 1910 a Commonwealth legislative power the States themselves therefore couldn’t
legislate as to create their own Land Taxation and also all taxes raised from land Taxation would
have to go into Commonwealth revenue funds and more over every State would have to have a
35 land Tax that was “throughout the Commonwealth” the same. As such different Land Taxes in
different States would be unconstitutional.
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http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi -
bin/disp.pl/au/cases/cth/high_ct/1999/27.html?query=%22thi+act+and+all+law+made+by+the+parliament%22#fn50
40 QUOTE
Constitutional interpretation
The starting point for a principled interpretation of the Constitution is the
search for the intention of its makers[51].
END QUOTE
45 .
Within Section 51 of the constitution both the States and the commonwealth have certain
legislative powers however as the Framers of the constitution stated:
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Hansard 21-1-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
50 QUOTE
Mr. REID
The object is this, that for some time to come it will not be possible for the Federal
Legislature to pass laws on these subjects, and it is necessary to have some laws on
them-the state laws if they exist-until federal laws are enacted; but the moment a
The reductions may be on a sliding scale, but they must always be uniform.
END QUOTE
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35 Hansard 19-4-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
Sir GEORGE TURNER: No. In imposing uniform duties of Customs it should not be
necessary for the Federal Parliament to make them commence at a certain amount at once.
We have pretty heavy duties in Victoria, and if the uniform tariff largely reduces them at
40 once it may do serious injury to the colony. The Federal Parliament will have power to
fix the uniform tariff, and if any reductions made are on a sliding scale great injury
will be avoided.
END QUOTE
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45 Hansard 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. BARTON.-
But it is a fair corollary to the provision for dealing with the revenue for the first five years
after the imposition of uniform duties of customs, and further reflection has led me to the
conclusion that, on the whole, it will be a useful and beneficial provision.
50 END QUOTE
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Hansard 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. BARTON.-
On the other hand, the power of the Commonwealth to impose duties of customs and of
55 excise such as it may determine, which insures that these duties of customs and excise
would represent something like the average opinion of the Commonwealth-that power, and
the provision that bounties are to be uniform throughout the Commonwealth, might, I
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am willing to concede, be found to work with some hardship upon the states for some
years, unless their own rights to give bounties were to some extent preserved.
END QUOTE
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5 Hansard 31-3-1891 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Sir SAMUEL GRIFFITH:
2. Customs and excise and bounties, but so that duties of customs and excise and bounties
shall be uniform throughout the commonwealth, and that no tax or duty shall be imposed
on any goods exported from one state to another;
10 END QUOTE
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Hansard 11-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE The CHAIRMAN.-
Taxation; but so that all taxation shall he uniform throughout the Commonwealth, and
15 that no tax or duty shall be imposed on any goods passing from one state to another.
END QUOTE
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Rest assured there are ample of other quotations I can rely upon.
As Mr Robert Pincevic sought my views about the constitutional issue of Land Taxes by the
20 States I held it appropriately to write to you directly so you can immediately, and so without
delay, stop any unconstitutional taxation, and face reality that all States, not just NSW,
constitutionally are require to refund all unconstitutionally collected Land Taxes.
.
Hansard 1-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
25 QUOTE
Mr. HIGGINS.-Suppose the sentry is asleep, or is in the swim with the other
power?
Mr. GORDON.-There will be more than one sentry. In the case of a federal
law, every member of a state Parliament will be a sentry, and, every constituent
30 of a state Parliament will be a sentry. As regards a law passed by a state, every
man in the Federal Parliament will be a sentry, and the whole constituency
behind the Federal Parliament will be a sentry.
END QUOTE
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35 Hansard 6-3-1891 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. THYNNE:
The constitution of this federation will not be charged with the duty of resisting
privileged classes, for the whole power will be vested in the people themselves. They
are the complete legislative power of the whole of these colonies, and they shall be so.
40 From [start page 106] them will rise, first of all, the federal constitution which we are
proposing to establish, and in the next place will come the legislative powers of the several
colonies. The people will be the authority above and beyond the separate legislatures,
and the royal prerogative exercised, in their interest and for their benefit, by the advice of
their ministers will be practically vested in them. They will exercise the sovereignty of the
45 states, they will be charged with the full power and dignity of the state, and it is from them
that we must seek the giving to each of those bodies that will be in existence concurrently
the necessary powers for their proper management and existence. Each assembly, each
legislature, whether state or federal existing under this constitution, will be as Dicey
again says-a merely subordinate law-making body whose laws will be valid, whilst
50 within the authority conferred upon it by the constitution, but invalid and
unconstitutional if they go beyond the limits of such authority.
END QUOTE
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Hansard 8-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
55 QUOTE Mr. CARRUTHERS (New South Wales).-
Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka
I write in response to your recent email to the Premier concerning land tax.
60 As the matter you have raised concerns the administration of the Treasurer, the Hon
Eric Roozendaal MLC, your email has been forwarded to the Treasurer for attention.
You may be sure that your letter will receive close consideration.
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Yours sincerely
David Swain
for Director General
END QUOTE
5 .
As I stated in my previous correspondence also:
QUOTE
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST and Author of books in the INSPECTOR-RIKATI® series on certain
constitutional and other legal issues my issue is foremost what is constitutionally appropriate and for this
10 direct myself to you.
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I do point out that I am not in any capacity acting for Mr Robert Pincevic but he is aware that I am writing to
you and reveals his identity.
15 I was contacted by Mr Robert Pincevic (NSW resident) regarding the 22 June 2010 Land Tax issue
correspondence from Richard Brown for Tony Newbury Chief Commissioner of State Revenue correctly
pointed out that within s.106 of the constitution (The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900
(UK)), the States “subject to this constitution” are entitled to legislate in matters. I personally cannot see any
difficulties then with any NSW legal provisions then to legislate in 1902 (provided the NSW constitution was
20 validly amended) in regard of land taxes, however what Richard Brown seems to ignore is the very term
“subject to this constitution” meaning that s.51 only permits the States to legislate as to Land Tax until the
Commonwealth legislate for this and then the moment the Commonwealth does it no longer is a legislative
power for the States. As such where the Commonwealth commenced to legislate and in 1910 became the
dominant legislator I have the view that then the States no longer had this legislative power and the fact that
25 the Commonwealth in 1952 abolished land taxes cannot revert the legislative powers back to the States as the
constitution doesn’t allow for this.
END QUOTE
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I am well aware that the Governments (State/Territorial/Federal) may seek to rely upon legal
30 advice of lawyers who may or may not claim to be constitutionalist but the fact is that since 1956
none of them appeared to have understood that the States/Territories couldn’t legislate as to
LAND TAXES. This is because lawyers are so to say trained to think in a certain manner and
this prohibit them to be open minded and consider all relevant issues, not just about
State/Territorial land Taxes as for example the commonwealth in s.388 of the CEA1918 uses
35 “averment” where as on 4 August 2005 I successfully defeated the commonwealth and the Court
ordered the commonwealth to file and serve all evidence it sought to rely upon this as the court
upheld my constitutional submission that the commonwealth cannot interfere in the legal
processes of a State Court by dictating that “AVERMENT” applies. Actually the ATO uses
“averment” in the Supreme Court of NSW even so as I stated this is unconstitutionally
40 interfering in State judicial matters, regardless if the State Court exercises federal jurisdiction.
.
It is my understanding that the ATO in legal proceedings relies upon the Taxation
Administration Act section 8ZL which is as follows:
QUOTE S.8ZL(1)
45 [Prima facie evidence] In a prosecution for the prescribed taxation offence, a statement or averment
contained in the information, claim or complaint is prima facie evidence of the matter so stated or averred.
END QUOTE
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QUOTE S.8ZL(2)
50 [Application of section] This section applies in relation to any matter so stated or averred although:
(a) evidence in support or rebuttal of the matter stated or averred, or of any other matter, is given; or
(b) the matter averred is a mixed question of law and fact, but in that case, or of any other statement or
averment is prima facie evidence if the fact only.
END QUOTE
55 .
We now look brat the provision of the CEA1918;
Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918
QUOTE
388 Averments deemed to be proved
60 In any prosecution in a court of summary jurisdiction in respect of a contravention of the
provisions of this Act or the regulations relating to compulsory enrolment or compulsory
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voting, instituted by an officer or by any person acting under the direction of an officer, the
averments of the prosecutor contained in the information or complaint shall be deemed to be
proved in the absence of evidence to the contrary.
END QUOTE
5 .
I understand that Raelene Susan Vivian Deputy Commissioner of Taxation filed a 1 May 2009
Affidavit (On 4 May 2009) in which she refers to:
QUOTE
The plaintiff pleads her cause of action, and avers and states
10 END QUOTE
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These pleadings were then responded upon by the Respondents to in general deny the claims.
In point 4 of this Affidavit it was stated
QUOTE
15 The defendants failed to pay income tax for the years of tax ending 30 June 2002, 30 June 2003, 30 June
2004, 30 June 2006, 30 June 2007 and 30 June 2008 on or before the relevant due dates.
END QUOTE
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It is in my view terrible that even the Supreme Court of NSW isn’t even aware that
20 Commonwealth of Australia legislative provisions cannot interfere with State jurisdictional
matters!
HANSARD 11-03-1891 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
Mr. CLARK: What we want is a separate federal judiciary, allowing the state judiciaries to remain
25 under their own governments.
END QUOTE
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HANSARD 1-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. SYMON.-
30 Then, I think myself, some confusion may arise in consequence of the reference to the state in the words
"Proceedings to be taken against the Commonwealth or a state in all cases within the limits of the judicial
power." Now, it does not appear to me that we ought to interfere in any way with the functions of a state
to regulate the proceedings which it, as a quasi-independent political entity, may prescribe for the
regulation of its own legal proceedings.
35 END QUOTE
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As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I obviously have to consider the intentions of the Framers of the
Constitution where the ATO is about “Income Tax” of all sources, the same can be argued about
the issue of the word “INCOME”:
40 Hansard 31-3-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
Sir GEORGE TURNER: One might depend entirely on the other.
Sir GEORGE TURNER: Take the Land and Income Tax Bill.
45 Mr. BARTON: They are proposals which should never be in one Bill together. If there are two
propositions more dissimilar in their incidence than a land and an income tax they are hard to suggest.
One of them-the income tax-comes from the earnings or profits of the people, or of that portion of the
people who, I was almost guilty of saying, are to "hump the swag"-at any rate they are to bear the
burden. But the other-if a tax on the unimproved value of land-has no relation to the earnings or the
50 thrift or the solvency of the person owning the land, and taxes that land on its unimproved value
whether the owner makes a profit out of it or not. I am not attacking these forms of taxation, but I do
say this: that it is impossible to imagine two taxes more diverse their very root, and I think Sir George
Turner could not have selected a better example of two taxes which ought not to be included in one Bill.
I venture to say this is undoubtedly cutting down the right of the Senate to protect the State, and preventing
55 them from voting upon matters that should be put separately. I believe most of these matters have been well,
and fairly dealt with in the Bill of 1891.
END QUOTE
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20 Mr. WISE.-Besides, it would punish everybody who took the advice of a man who interpreted the law
properly.
Mr. ISAACS.-It compels everybody who has obeyed the decision of the higher courts to act, or refrain
from acting. That is a position which none of us would willingly get into, and the retrospective action is
wrong.
25 END QUOTE
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I am concerned that despite my writing of 31 August 2010 I am given the understanding that the
State of NSW State land Tax office nevertheless has persisted in proceedings with its conduct
against the Pincevic’s even so it was also provided by Mr Robert Pincevic with a copy of my 31
30 August 2010 correspondence to you and the response of 13 September 2010 on your behalf.
.
I am well aware that State/Territorial land taxes involves an estimate $35 billion a year
throughout the Commonwealth of Australia but in all fairness I have urged for many years for all
Governments to consult the OFFICE-OF-THE-GUARDIAN about constitutional matters and
35 where then a State/Territory failed to do so then it has inflicted any harm upon not just itself but
also to its residents. It cannot be any excuse therefore for any State/Territorial Government
having to refund all unconstitutional claimed LAND TAXES as the Framers of the Constitution
made clear that any unconstitutional taxes had to be refunded.
Neither can it be held that somehow the States/Territories were colleting LAND TAXES on
40 behalf of the Commonwealth because the Commonwealth is bound to raise any taxes for “the
whole” of the Commonwealth. As the States/Territories collected LAND TAXES in dependent
of each other and as such no LAND TAX was equal throughout the Commonwealth of Australia
then it cannot be deemed that the States/Territories therefore purportedly collected LAND
TAXES on behalf of the Commonwealth.
45 .
Neither can the Commonwealth apply “retrospective” legislation as to try to secure past land
taxes paid since 1952 as being Commonwealth land taxes.
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Neither can the States/Territories invoke any kind of retrospective legislation because the states
50 are within s.106 “subject to this constitution” and hence the legal principles embedded in the
constitution are also binding upon the States/Territories.
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Hansard 2-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. OCONNOR (New South Wales).-
55 Of course, when I speak of a state, I include also any territory occupying the position of quasi-state,
which, of course, stands in exactly the same position.
END QUOTE
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Hansard 3-3-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
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QUOTE
Mr. ISAACS (Victoria).-What I am going to say may be a little out of order, but I would like to draw the
Drafting Committee's attention to the fact that in clause 52, sub-section (2), there has been [start page 1856] a
considerable change. Two matters in that sub-section seem to me to deserve attention. First, it is provided
5 that all taxation shall be uniform throughout the Commonwealth. That means direct as well as indirect
taxation, and the object I apprehend is that there shall be no discrimination between the states; that an
income tax or land tax shall not be made higher in one state than in another. I should like the Drafting
Committee to consider whether saying the tax shall be uniform would not prevent a graduated tax of any
kind? A tax is said to be uniform that falls with the same weight on the same class of property, wherever it is
10 found. It affects all kinds of direct taxation. I am extremely afraid, that if we are not very careful, we shall get
into a difficulty. It might not touch the question of exemption; but any direct tax sought to be imposed
might be held to be unconstitutional, or, in other words, illegal, if it were not absolutely uniform.
END QUOTE
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15 Where the State land tax office is assessing Mr Robert Pincevic as to his “INCOME” then again
as like Commissioner of Taxation (ATO – for the commonwealth) any income must be
understood as to the meaning of the Framers of the Constitution and not that income is what is
derived from direct and indirect taxable financial benefits, as this offend the Constitution that
only one subject matter can be addressed in any taxation legislation!
20 As such the State’s also fall foul upon how it assesses the unconstitutional State LAND TAXES
being on “INCOME” derived from different sources.
.
As you may be aware there are thousands of ratepayers in clashes with municipal and shire
councils as to the paying of rates, and this too is a matter then may soon so to say blow up in the
25 face of State and Territorial governments, as I have published articles about this in the past. It is
therefore essential that the State government reconsiders how it goes about and in particular how
it pursues objectors who in the end all along may be proven to be right in certain issues but
because the State/Territorial government rely upon legal advisors who may know next to nothing
about what is constitutionally applicable then the State government, other then to provide so to
30 say a gold mine for the lawyers to keep them in a job it doesn’t at all act appropriately for the
general public. Instead of having if not thousands then hundreds of court cases about rates, etc, I
view it would be far more sensible if the State/Territorial governments were to reconsider its
positions and perhaps call an inquiry to assess what is actually constitutionally appropriate. I
will not delve into all the finer details in this correspondence about it but can assure you that you
35 might be in the end horrified citizens have been unduly so to say crucified in courts where they
all along had a rightful position in regard of certain objections but even the judiciary was blind to
it because after all they were all trained in the same manner and so not open-minded to what is
constitutionally applicable and justified.
.
40 QUOTE R. v Sussex Justices, ex parte McCarthy (1924)
'Justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done.'
END QUOTE
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TAYLOR v. TAYLOR [1979] HCA 38; (1979) 143 CLR 1 (22 August 1979)
45 Similarly in Commissioner of Police v. Tanos (1958) 98 CLR 383, at p 395, Dixon C.J. and
Webb J. said that
QUOTE
it is a deep-rooted principle of the law that before anyone can be punished or prejudiced in his person or
property by any judicial or quasi-judicial proceeding he must be afforded an adequate opportunity of
50 being heard.
END QUOTE
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Hansard 31-1-1898 Constitution Convention Debates QUOTE Mr. SOLOMON.-
We shall not only look to the Federal Judiciary for the protection of our interests, but also for the just
55 interpretation of the Constitution:
END QUOTE
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Hansard 31-1-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. SOLOMON.-
Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka
I write in response to your recent email to the Premier concerning land tax.
As the matter you have raised concerns the administration of the Treasurer, the Hon
45 Eric Roozendaal MLC, your email has been forwarded to the Treasurer for attention.
You may be sure that your letter will receive close consideration.
Yours sincerely
David Swain
for Director General
50 END QUOTE
I now request to respond and set out to me what you propose to do, and considering there is a
State election due if this will be addressed prior to the Election, if at all? It should be kept in
mind that the Framers of the constitution made clear that all and any unconstitutional taxation
must be refunded to those who paid it and this clearly will leave a gigantic black hole in the State
Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka
I write in response to your recent email to the Premier concerning land tax.
35 As the matter you have raised concerns the administration of the Treasurer, the Hon
Eric Roozendaal MLC, your email has been forwarded to the Treasurer for attention.
You may be sure that your letter will receive close consideration.
Yours sincerely
David Swain
40 for Director General
END QUOTE
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Regretfully since then despite further subsequent correspondences nothing was heard about it.
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45 Obviously both Mr Robert Pincevic and his father Mr Anton Pincevic have urged me to follow
up the matter in view that your Department is still pestering them about State land taxes.
The former Premier of Victoria Mr John Brumby also ignored to respond appropriately and well
I assisted in the Bentleigh election pursuing that State land Taxes are unconstitutional and
Bentleigh certainly got the message and so to say revolted against the ALP and handed it to the
50 Liberals and consequently Mr Ted Baillieu became premier of the state of Victoria.
Considering that it is now some 4-months since I wrote initially to you and you lacked any
proper response I would not encourage land holders to follow the example of Dr John B. Myers
in Bentleigh to spread the word about the unconstitutional land taxes so that in the upcoming
State election of NSW you may discover this may be a problem you may have wished you had
Mr. ISAACS.-For public purposes-only for the purposes committed to it by the Constitution.
Mr. KINGSTON.-Is not the supremacy of the United States Government a little different from the
5 supremacy of our proposed Federal Government?
Mr. ISAACS.-Not in this respect. The supremacy, as far as the powers committed to it are concerned,
would, in this respect, I apprehend, be exactly the same as the Supremacy of our Commonwealth Government
in relation to its powers. In the case of Kohl v. United States, which was decided in 1875, on this very
question of the right of the United States Government to compulsorily take property within the state for its
10 public purposes, the court said this:-
It has not been seriously contended during the argument that the United States Government is without power
to appropriate lands or other property within the states for its own uses, and to enable it to perform its proper
functions. Such an authority is essential to its independent existence and perpetuity. These cannot be
preserved if the obstinacy of a private person, or if any other authority, can prevent the acquisition of the
15 means or instruments by which alone governmental functions can be performed. The powers vested by the
Constitution in the General Government demand for their exercise the acquisition of lands in all the states.
These are needed for forts, armories, and arsenals, for navy yards and light-houses, for custom-houses, post-
offices, and court-houses, and for other public uses; If the right to acquire property for such uses may be
made a barren right by the unwillingness of property holders to sell, or by the action of a state prohibiting a
20 sale to the Federal Government, the constitutional grants of power may he rendered nugatory, and the
Government is dependent for its practical existence upon the will of a state, or even upon that of a private
citizen. This cannot be. No one doubts the existence in the state Governments of the right of eminent domain-
a right distinct from and paramount [start page 261] to the right of ultimate ownership. It grows out of the
necessities of their being, not out of the tenure by which lands are held. It may be exercised, though the lands
25 are not held by grant from the Government, either mediate'y or immediately, and independent of the
consideration whether they would escheat to the Government in case of a failure of heirs. The right is the
offspring of political necessity; and it is inseparable from sovereignty. unless denied to it by its fundamental
law. Put it is no more necessary for the exercise of the powers of a state Government than it is for the exercise
of the conceded powers of the Federal Government. That Government is as sovereign within its sphere as the
30 states are within theirs. True, its sphere is limited. Certain subjects only are committed to it; but its power
over those subjects is as fall and complete as is the power of the states over the subje cts to which their
sovereignty extends. The power is not changed by its transfer to another holder.
But, if the right of eminent domain exists in the Federal Government, it is a right which may be
35 exercised within the states, so far as is necessary to the enjoyment of the powers conferred upon it by
the Constitution.
The whole judgment proceeds in that way. It has been followed in several cases, and I think it has been laid
down more than once in express terms that, for the purpose of carrying out the powers expressly given to the
federal authority in the Constitution, the right of eminent domain is an essential attribute, and therefore I do
40 not entertain the slightest doubt that, as in that case, and as in several other cases, the United States
Government has, even without the consent of the state, taken land so far as it was necessary for the exercise of
its public duties, we should have the same right here. I will now proceed to show the meaning of this sub-
section. This sub-section does not say that the Federal Government is to have the power to take that
land. It assumes that the Federal Government has that power, but when the Government does take
45 land, compulsorily or by purchase, in a state as its possession, it takes that land certainly by virtue of its
sovereign power of eminent domain, that is, the highest dominion. But it does not hold that land as
sovereign, it holds the land as proprietor. Now, where it holds the land merely as proprietor, without
the consent of the state being given to it, it is quite plain that the jurisdiction of the state should run,
except, of course, so as not to interfere with the performance of the governmental functions of the
50 Federal Government. But, as far as punishing crime is concerned, as far as any other ordinary state
supervision relates, not inconsistent with the performance of the supreme functions of the
Commonwealth, the ordinary state law will run. But the United States have provided, and we, I
understand, propose to provide here, that, where the state consents to the Federal Government
acquiring any land, either by purchase or compulsorily, it thereby consents, and that consent is
55 equivalent to the admission of the right of the Federal Government to exercise exclusive jurisdiction in
respect to that particular portion of territory. And if the state does not choose to give its consent, it
says, in effect-"You may take this land, it is true, by virtue of your sovereign right, for your sovereign
5 18. We turn to consider proposition (i) listed in [16] above and thus to the situation in 1956 when the Tax Act
and the Management Act were enacted. At that stage the Land was "property of any kind belonging to the
Commonwealth" within the meaning of s 114 of the Constitution and so, without the consent of the
Parliament of the Commonwealth, New South Wales could not impose any tax upon it. Further, the Land
was one of the "places acquired by the Commonwealth for public purposes" within the meaning of s 52(i)
10 of the Constitution. The Land had been acquired in 1922, but the phrase "acquired by the Commonwealth"
carries within itself the notion of being the property of the Commonwealth as a consequence of that
acquisition.
END QUOTE
.
15 Paliflex Pty Ltd v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue (NSW) [2003] HCA 65; 219 CLR 325; 202 ALR 376; 78
ALJR 87 (12 November 2003)
QUOTE
24. Allders also confirms[27] that the boundaries of the power withdrawn by s 52(i) from the States are charted
by the grant of exclusive power to the Commonwealth, so that a useful test is to ask whether a federal law
20 similar to the 1956 State legislation would be supported in any of its operations as a law with respect to the
Land. The answer must be that such a law would have no connection with the Land, accepting that
something more than an insubstantial, tenuous or distant connection is required by the authorities just
mentioned.
END QUOTE
25 .
Paliflex Pty Ltd v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue (NSW) [2003] HCA 65; 219 CLR 325; 202 ALR 376; 78
ALJR 87 (12 November 2003)
QUOTE (CALLINAN J.)
55. The appeal fails on the basis that the two State enactments, the Land Tax Management Act 1956 (NSW)
30 ("the LTMA") and the Land Tax Act 1956 (NSW), never had, or purported to have any application to the
Commonwealth and any land owned by it within the State. Each of, and in combination, ss 3, 7 and 9 of the
LTMA, the sections by which land tax is levied, refer or are intended to operate in relation to "land ...
owned by taxpayers". As the Commonwealth is not a taxpayer it does not answer that description.
Furthermore, the Commonwealth is, to put it at its lowest, constitutionally exempt from any obligation to
35 pay land tax to the State.
END QUOTE
.
Paliflex Pty Ltd v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue (NSW) [2003] HCA 65; 219 CLR 325; 202 ALR 376; 78
ALJR 87 (12 November 2003)
40 QUOTE (CALLINAN J.)
61. The appellant contended that the two Acts burdened Commonwealth land. It was unable to identify any
effect upon it however, except as to its value: in short that the Commonwealth could sell it for more if it
were exempt from land tax. Attempts by the appellant to liken this circumstance to a defect in title were
unconvincing. That the Commonwealth might get a better price if it could immunise land it owned from
45 land tax for a period, or indefinitely, has nothing to say about the nature and completeness of the title that it
can convey. Apart from the more obvious policy considerations arguing against the result sought by the
appellant, that land no longer in Commonwealth ownership and therefore no longer used for any public
purpose should nonetheless continue to have a tax free status, there is this. The Commonwealth owned no
land at the time of Federation. Everything it has (apart from land transferred or ceded to it pursuant to ss 85
50 and 125 of the Constitution or given to it), must have been acquired either by purchase, overshadowed no
doubt by its ultimate power of compulsory acquisition, or by compulsory acquisition. On acquisition it
would have paid no additional sum for it because it was to be used for a Commonwealth public purpose,
one relevant incident of which is freedom from State land tax. That follows from settled principle now
enacted as s 60 of the Lands Acquisition Act 1989 (Cth) which relevantly provides:
(a) any special suitability or adaptability of the relevant land for a purpose for which it
could only be used pursuant to a power conferred by or under law, or for which it could
only be used by a government, public or local authority;
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(c) any increase or decrease in the value of the land caused by the carrying out of, or the
proposal to carry out, the purpose for which the interest was acquired; and
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5 62. An enactment under the Constitution may not of course be used to construe the Constitution, but s 60 of the
Lands Acquisition Act reflects the law in force in relation to compulsory acquisitions at the time of
Federation and of which the drafters may be taken to have known. That law is described in Corrie v
MacDermott[86] on appeal from this Court to the Privy Council which explained the much earlier cases of
Hilcoat v Archbishops of Canterbury and York[87] and Stebbing v Metropolitan Board of Works[88]. The
10 principle was shortly stated as[89]:
"The value which has to be assessed is the value to the old owner who parts with his
property, not the value to the new owner who takes it over."
It would be odd, if having acquired land for a price which was unaffected by the incidents of public
ownership, an acquiring authority should be entitled to sell it to an ordinary purchaser at a price enhanced
15 by the continuation of a status entirely inappropriate to its new ownership and usage.
END QUOTE
.
Further, as to water rights of landholders so to say the Commonwealth should but out because
other then for navigational purposes it has absolutely no legislative powers to interfere with the
20 rights of the states and so landholders in the states as to how much water consumption they may
or may not have.
.
HANSARD 21-1-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. GORDON.-
25 We are only asking for the right that every riparian proprietor enjoys under British law-the
right that the man above him shall neither injure the quality nor diminish the flow of any
stream designed for their mutual benefit and enjoyment. That is a right that is founded
deep in natural justice. It cannot be said that we are asking for anything extraordinary or
making extreme demands upon our follow colonists when we simply seek for that right
30 which every riparian proprietor under British law enjoys. The tendency of modern
legislation is to go even further than the common law doctrine in declaring that there shall
be no exclusive property in running streams. The tendency of modern legislation is to say
that while the riparian proprietors should have their rights under the law there is a higher, a
paramount right, the right of the people who are the dwellers on the banks of these streams.
35 END QUOTE
.
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST and Author of books in the INSPECTOR-RIKATI® series on
certain constitutional and other legal issues my issue is foremost what is constitutionally
appropriate and for this directed myself to you. I intend to publish a copy of this correspondence
40 on the internet so that you might be aware that I will disclose details to others so they may seek
to use it to their advantage to combat any unconstitutional State land tax.
I have provided the email address of Mr Robert Pincevic also (above) so you can also respond
to him and his father directly.
.
45 EITHER WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION OR WE DON’T!
.
25 Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka
I write in response to your recent email to the Premier concerning land tax.
As the matter you have raised concerns the administration of the Treasurer, the Hon
Eric Roozendaal MLC, your email has been forwarded to the Treasurer for attention.
You may be sure that your letter will receive close consideration.
30 Yours sincerely
David Swain
for Director General
END QUOTE
.
35 Regretfully since then despite further subsequent correspondences nothing was heard about it
other then that I have become aware that Peter Geffroy of State Revenue Office appears to
disregard the proper ‘consideration” and persist with assessments irrespective of the issue that
State parliaments since 1910 have no constitutionally permissible legislative powers as to raise
land taxes since it became an exclusive federal power in 1910.
40 .
QUOTE Padfield v Minister of Agriculture & Fisheries and Food (1968) AC 997 (1968) 1 ALL ER 694 House
of Lords - Lord Upjohn and Lord Hodson Upjohn: - (Irrelevant consideration)
Here let it be said at once, he and his advisers have obviously given a bona fide and painstaking
consideration to the complaints addressed to him; the question is whether the consideration was sufficient
45 in law.
END QUOTE
.
It appears to me that “You can be sure your letter will receive close consideration.” then must
imply that before the State Revenue Office can pursue any assessment as to properties owned by
50 the Pincevic’s then such due and proper consideration is given in regard of if the State does or
doesn’t have any constitutionally permissible land tax legislative powers.
In all fairness to the Pincevi’s the issue was raised by me way back on 31 August 2010 well
before the State Revenue Office purportedly issued its client ID 41494706 (correspondence ID
1539644953) & ID 4345407 (correspondence ID 1539640597) Land Tax Assessment Notices
55 and as such the Pincevic’as are entitled to be given a proper explanation what was actually
“considered’ and if the issue of the lack of legislative powers regarding State Land Taxes was not
considered then the Land Tax Assessment Notice would fail as it omitted proper consideration of
all relevant issues.
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I have obtained a copy of a 13 January 2011 correspondence from the Office of state Revenue
and contrary to your office response stating “You can be sure your letter will receive close
consideration.” Nothing in the correspondence seems to me even remotely refer to the issues
5 raised in my n31 August 2010 and further correspondences.
As the Framers of the Constitution made clear all and any taxes unconstitutionally extracted from
a tax payer must be refunded. Hence, any State land Taxes the State of NSW so far charged and
had paid from the Pincevic’s should be refunded.
.
10 The State of NSW also should be aware that if this case were to go for litigation in the courts
then where the courts to uphold the claim that the States since 1910 no longer had legislative
powers to apply land taxes then this will be a considerable billion dollar issue. Do you really
desire to have this case to be litigated as such?
.
15 Kikonda Butema Farms Ltd v The Inspector General of Government HCT-00-CV-MA-593-2003
QUOTE
Constitution needles to mention is a supreme law of the land.
END QUOTE
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20 http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi -
bin/disp.pl/au/cases/cth/high_ct/1999/27.html?query=%22thi+act+and+all+law+made+by+the+parliament%22#fn50
QUOTE
Constitutional interpretation
The starting point for a principled interpretation of the Constitution is the search for the intention of its
25 makers[51].
END QUOTE
.
Hansard 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. BARTON.-
30 Providing, as this Constitution does, for a free people to elect a free Parliament-giving that people
through their Parliament the power of the purse-laying at their mercy from day to day the existence of
any Ministry which dares by corruption, or drifts through ignorance into, the commission of any act
which is unfavorable to the people having this security, it must in its very essence be a free
Constitution. Whatever any one may say to the contrary that is secured in the very way in which the
35 freedom of the British Constitution is secured. It is secured by vesting in the people, through their
representatives, the power of the purse, and I venture [start page 2477] to say there is no other way of
securing absolute freedom to a people than that, unless you make a different kind of Executive than
that which we contemplate, and then overload your Constitution with legislative provisions to protect
the citizen from interference. Under this Constitution he is saved from every kind of interference.
40 Under this Constitution he has his voice not only in the, daily government of the country, but in the
daily determination of the question of whom is the Government to consist. There is the guarantee of
freedom in this Constitution. There is the guarantee which none of us have sought to remove, but every
one has sought to strengthen. How we or our work can be accused of not providing for the popular
liberty is something which I hope the critics will now venture to explain, and I think I have made their
45 work difficult for them. Having provided in that way for a free Constitution, we have provided for an
Executive which is charged with the duty of maintaining the provisions of that Constitution; and,
therefore, it can only act as the agents of the people. We have provided for a Judiciary, which will
determine questions arising under this Constitution, and with all other questions which should be dealt
with by a Federal Judiciary and it will also be a High Court of Appeal for all courts in the states that
50 choose to resort to it. In doing these things, have we not provided, first, that our Constitution shall be free:
next, that its government shall be by the will of the people, which is the just result of their freedom: thirdly,
that the Constitution shall not, nor shall any of its provisions, be twisted or perverted, inasmuch as a
court appointed by their own Executive, but acting independently, is to decide what is a perversion of its
provisions? We can have every faith in the constitution of that tribunal. It is appointed as the arbiter of the
55 Constitution. It is appointed not to be above the Constitution, for no citizen is above it, but under it; but
it is appointed for the purpose of saying that those who are the instruments of the Constitution-the
Government and the Parliament of the day-shall not become the masters of those whom, as to the
Constitution, they are bound to serve. What I mean is this: That if you, after making a Constitution of
this kind, enable any Government or any Parliament to twist or infringe its provisions, then by slow
60 degrees you may have that Constitution-if not altered in terms-so whittled away in operation that the
guarantees of freedom which it gives your people will not be maintained; and so, in the highest sense,
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the court you are creating here, which is to be the final interpreter of that Constitution, will be such a
tribunal as will preserve the popular liberty in all these regards, and will prevent, under any pretext of
constitutional action, the Commonwealth from dominating the states, or the states from usurping the
sphere of the Commonwealth. Having provided for all these things, I think this Convention has done
5 well.
END QUOTE
.
The following applies as much to Federal laws of the Commonwealth of Australia as it does to
federal laws in the USA; http://familyguardian.tax-
10 tactics.com/Subjects/LawAndGovt/ChallJurisdiction/AuthoritiesArticle/AuthOnJurisdiction.htm
QUOTE
37 Am Jur 2d at section 8 states, in part: "Fraud vitiates every transaction and all contracts. Indeed, the
principle is often stated, in broad and sweeping language, that fraud destroys the validity of everything into
which it enters, and that it vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents, and even judgments."
15 END QUOTE
And
QUOTE
The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes
the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be
20 in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail.
This is succinctly stated as follows:
The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in
reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from
the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An
25 unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a
statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.
Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no
rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies
no acts performed under it. . .
30 A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede
any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, it is
superseded thereby.
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.
END QUOTE
35 Sixteenth American Jurisprudence
Second Edition, 1998 version, Section 203 (formerly Section 256)
.
Hansard 30-3-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. REID:
40 We must make it clear that the moment the Federal Parliament legislates on one of those points
enumerated in clause 52, that instant the whole State law on the subject is dead. There cannot be two
laws, one Federal and one State, on the same subject. But that I merely mention as almost a verbal
criticism, because there is no doubt, whatever that the intention of the framers was not to propose any
complication of the kind.
45 END QUOTE
.
It is therefore clear that when the Commonwealth commenced to legislate as to Land Taxes in
1910 then that so to say spelled the end of the States to legislate as such. The fact that the
Commonwealth abolished land taxes in 1952 itself didn’t alter the fact that it had become an
50 “exclusive” Commonwealth legislative power. As such the 1956 State land Taxes legislation and
any subsequent amendments to it all are and remain to be unconstitutional.
.
Hansard 30-3-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
55 The Hon. R.E. O'CONNOR (New South Wales)[3.18]: We ought to be careful not to load the
commonwealth with any more duties than are absolutely necessary. Although it is quite true that this
power is permissive, you will always find that if once power is given to the commonwealth to legislate
on a particular question, there will be continual pressure brought to bear on the commonwealth to
exercise that power. The moment the commonwealth exercises the power, the states must retire from
60 that field of legislation.
END QUOTE
.
Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka
I write in response to your recent email to the Premier concerning land tax.
As the matter you have raised concerns the administration of the Treasurer, the Hon
10 Eric Roozendaal MLC, your email has been forwarded to the Treasurer for attention.
You may be sure that your letter will receive close consideration.
Yours sincerely
David Swain
for Director General
15 END QUOTE
.
I received on 8-3-2011 a response dated 2-3-2011 from Barry Collier MP Parliamentary
Secretary Assisting the Treasurer on behalf of the Treasurer he responded.
Section 107 he refers to is very clear that for example “Income Tax” albeit was a Colonial and
20 later State legislative power the moment the Commonwealth legislated upon “Income Tax” then
the power became an exclusive Commonwealth power and the States had to retire from this.
Once it became an exclusive power then the constitution doesn’t permit it to return to become a
“concurrent” power, as I have set out in past correspondence. The legislative powers on the
particular field is forever an exclusive power of the Commonwealth!
25 In regard of the State Land Taxes the same applies. Once the Commonwealth commenced to
legislate as to “Land taxes” then it became by this an exclusive legislative power and as such the
State no longer had concurrent legislative powers on Land taxes matters.
The States were created out of the former colonies and as s.106 of the (federal) constitution
makes clear “subject to this constitution” and this clearly provides in s51 for concurrent
30 legislative powers to become exclusive Commonwealth legislative powers. It is not relevant if
the Commonwealth, as like with the 1952 abolition land taxes were to abolish “income tax”
because it would still remain an exclusive Commonwealth legislative power. As for s5 of the
Constitution Act 1992 (NSW) it cannot override any Commonwealth exclusive powers and as it
clearly is subject to the Commonwealth constitution it therefore cannot be perceived it somehow
35 gives legislative powers no longer permissible by the Commonwealth Constitution to be
exercisable by a state.
.
Critical might be the claim:
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Land taxes were imposed by the States prior to federation. They were introduced at the federal level in 1910.
In 1952, the Commonwealth Government abolished land tax. This did not have the effect of preventing the
States from imposing land tax, but rather returned taxation powers back to them. Accordingly, the NSW
5 Government introduced the land Management Act in 1956.
END QUOTE
Obviously, contrary to what was claimed by Barry Collier MP the Commonwealth Government
has no constitutional powers to abolish any legislation as it being the Executive it can refuse to
enforce legislative provisions but cannot abolish an act of Parliament. As such it is the
10 Commonwealth Parliament that can only abolish legislation.
What may be noted is the wording “but rather returned taxation powers back to them” as
such this is a concession that in fact since 1910 land taxes were an exclusive Commonwealth
legislative power. The question then is how does one “return” a legislative power to any State,
not just NSW, where the Constitution never provided for this? Clearly Barry Collier MP didn’t
15 clarifyy within what constitutional powers, if any, a reversal of legislative power could eventuate
and quite frankly the Framers of the Constitution made clear that once a legislative power was a
Commonwealth legislative power then this was the end of the States dealing with the subject.
.
Hansard 27 -1-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record of the Debates of the National
20 Australasian Convention)
QUOTE
Mr. DEAKIN.-My point is that by the requests of different colonies at different times you may arrive at a
position in which all the colonies have adopted a particular law, and it is necessary for the working of that law
that certain fees, charges, or taxation should be imposed. That law now relates to the whole of the Union,
25 because every state has come under it. As I read clause 52, the Federal Parliament will have no power,
until the law has thus become absolutely federal, to impose taxation to provide the necessary reve nue
for carrying out that law. Another difficulty of the sub-section is the question whether, even when a
state has referred a matter to the federal authority, and federal legislation takes place on it, it has any-
and if any, what-power of amending or repealing the law by which it referred the question? I should be
30 inclined to think it had no such power, but the question has been raised, and should be settled. I should
say that, having appealed to Caesar, it must be bound by the judgment of Caesar, and that it would not
be possible for it afterwards to revoke its reference.
END QUOTE
.
35 HANSARD 1-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. GORDON.-
The court may say-"It is a good law, but as it technically infringes on
the Constitution we will have to wipe it out."
END QUOTE
40 .
Hansard 16-2-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. ISAACS (Victoria).-
In the next sub-section it is provided that all taxation shall be uniform throughout the Commonwealth.
An income tax or a property tax raised under any federal law must be uniform "throughout the
45 Commonwealth." That is, in every part of the Commonwealth.
END QUOTE
.
Hansard 19-4-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
50 Mr. MCMILLAN: I think the reading of the sub-section is clear.
The reductions may be on a sliding scale, but they must always be uniform.
END QUOTE
And
Hansard 19-4-1897 Constitution Convention Debates
55 QUOTE
Sir GEORGE TURNER: No. In imposing uniform duties of Customs it should not be necessary for the
Federal Parliament to make them commence at a certain amount at once. We have pretty heavy duties in
Victoria, and if the uniform tariff largely reduces them at once it may do serious injury to the colony. The