It is a fact that only a learned PERSON CAN DEBATE WITH A LEARNED PERSON.

If a disbeliever is a learned Person and the Believer is Not a learned Person, THE
BELEAVER CAN NOT RESPONCE TO THE oBJECTIONS MADE BY THE DISELIEVER
PROPERLY..AND IS UNABLE TO refute the doubts made by him.The denouncers of the self
Possibility of the False Statement (K-B-R) OF KALAAM 'AL LAF
;ZII OF G-D And the Self Possibility of Falsehood in the Statements of KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII OF
G-D,often target normal persons of the Believers in the above mensioned SELF POSSIBILITIES,
(whome the rename as IMKAANIAH)
These targettors and Trappers orare of two types.a)Some of THEM ar Maulviis of the
Denouncers of the above stated Self Possibility and Self Contigenccy.They are specially tought
how to discuuss in their respective Madaaris {INSTITUTIONS/SCHOOLS]
Bb)Some of them are missionaries who are trained in this topic particularly and appearntly are not
their Maulvis.They appear to be common men and in some cases women.There Trainers
specially teach them how to dicuss the normal follower of Believers in the Self Possibility,how to
twist words and how toclaim that one who believe in this Possibility is not a SUNNI.
These latter mensioned people are appearently more dangerous since the appear to be a
comman Persons.
As these Targettors and Trappers are specially tought ,they are some what programmed,and are
experts in in claiming Relations b/w irrelevent topics, misinterpreting the quatations,
andmemorising a nimber of Quotations.There work is like missionaries and they have adopted
their methods with some modifications.
If some one is a Target of these Targettors and have not studied the books of Theology,Logic
.Dialectical Debates and Philosophy,it is adviseed that he /she may responce him/her as follow.:-
If you think that you are so great scholor sectarian disputes then go and openly challamnge our
Scholers and Dilectics and our Theologians IN PUBLIC,so that the entire world can see and hear
the discussions and know the truth.
It must be noted that a number of bords of schools and Madaaris have unfortunately chopped of
a number of Text books on
THEOLOGY,LOGIC,MATHEMATICS,ASTRONOMY,PHILOSOPHI,ARGUMENTATIONS etc.so it
may be the case that a number of Our Maulivis are unable to resond properly.So it is strongly
recommend that ONE MUST REFER TO AN AUTHENTIC THEOLOGIST WHO USE TO TEACH
THEOLOGY (AL 'ILAAHIAT), KALAAM,AND ''AQAA'ID.Even on Internet the THE TARGETTORS
AND TRAPPERS have occupied spaces and are continously and constantly trying to misgude
normal persons.These Denouncers of Self Possibility (FIRQAH AL IMTINAA''IAH) HAVE
CROSSED THE LIMITS.IT IS THE TIME FALL ALL THE BELIEVERS IN SELF POSSIBILITY TO
RESTORE THE THEOLOGICAL ,PHILOSOPHICALTEXT BOOKS ,PARTICULARLY THE
BOOKS OF LOGICS TO NULLIFY THESE ATTEPTS.
hOW EVER IF SOME ONE CAN NOT ESCAPE SUCH A PERSON OR IF IT BECOMES
NECESSORY TO discuss ,one may proceed as follow :-

FIRST#
Ask a Person who attempt toTarget you to State EXPLICITLY the 1st FundamentalPrerequites
Of the Dogma Imtinaa'' 'A;kidhb
(Self Absurdity Of Falsehood in The Divne Staements the following Qestion:Does he (or in some
cases she) believes that:-
KALAAM 'AL LAFZ:I (speach of the words} AND kalaam 'an nafis (speach of theself) ARE ONE
AND SAME.
B)Divine Speach is Neither Kalaam 'AL LAF
;ZI NOR KALAAM'AN NAFSII.
c)Both speaches are mutually distinct from one an other but both are Eternal.
d)Both are mutually distinct but KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZIII is Not ETERNAL,and kalaam 'an nafsi ,is
ETERNAL.
SECOND#
Ask him to make a choice,since no Discussion is Possible, and no one has any right to discuss
upon a Non Fandamental Issue if the Fundamental Issues and the Prerequists are disputed or
Unsettled.
If he/she selects one of them then ask him/her twhether he/she believes that the truth of s
Statment(KHABAR OF KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII OF G-D) is :
a)A RELATIVE ATTRIBUTE OF G-D
b)ACTIVE ATTRIBUTE OF G-D.
c)AN ESSSNTIAL ATTRIBUTE OF G-D.
If the targetor refuses to makes a selection then tell him/her that it is among the FUNDAMENTAL
PREREQUISITS OF THE DOGMA ,ANDAND THE ISSUES NOUNLY (namely) Imtinaa'' 'Alkidhb
andImkaan 'alkidhb Can not be discussed with out setelling them.
HE/SHE must sxolicitly state is selected answer.In some cases ask himtowrite is belief explicitly if
the targetor seems tobe so cleaver that he uses to twist his/HER words.
THIRD:
ASK him/her, Whether He/She believe that G-D is NECESSORYIN EXISTENCE (WAAJIB 'AL
WUJUUD) OR Not.
If the answer is in negativ then the answerer who so ever he/she may be becomes A Kafir
Immediately of Deneying the Necessory Axiom Of Islam ,that is not even DEPENDENT ON
NAS:S: (D:RURIYAAT AD DIIN).
If he/she replies in affermative then proceed further and ask him whether each Statement of G-d
is NECESSORY IN EXISTENCE or Possible In Existence.
If the answer is former then tellHim/ser that AL-H is the Only Necessory Existent and your
ANSWER IMPLIES THE PLURALITY AND MULTIPLITY OF NECESSORIES IN EXISTENCE(S)
So no thing can be discussed further,
Since a Statement of G-D IS NOT G-D.TO SAY THAT EACH DISTINT STATEMENT OF G-D IS
G-D is some thing like ATHNASIAN /TRINITARIAN TRINITY.
Tell the opponent that as we differ on the major Issue nothing can be discussed further.If HE/SHE
SAYS THAT HE/SHE BELIEVES THAT EACH STATMENT OF G-D IS MUMKIN ALWUJUUD
(POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE) THEN Tell HimHer
EXPLICITLY THAT:-
If He /She Really an d Truely believe THAT STATEMENTS OF KALAAM AL LAF:ZII OF G-D
ARE POSSIBLE SELF POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE THEN FALSEHOOD IN A PSSSIBLE IN
EXISTENCE IS NOT THE FALSEHOOD UPON G-D Since G-D IS NOT POSSIBLE IN
EXISTENCE BUTNECESSORY IN EXISTENCE,. In the Srict Sence And Real Meaning of The
Terms And Expressions.There fore If He Argues That Falsehood is Self bsurd Upon G-D then
He/She Contradicts HIIMSELF/HERSELF.
IF He/She has accepted previously that KALAAM 'AL 'AFZII and TRUTH OF KALAAM 'AL
LAF:ZII ARE ACTIVE ATTRIBUTES OF G-D,OR THEY ARE RELATIVE ATTRIBUTES OF G-D,
BHE/SHE SHALL ULTIMATELY CONTRADICT HIMSELF if he/ she says so.
If He/She has previously Claimed /Accepted that EACH ONE OF THEM OR ANT ONE OF THEM
IS AN ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTE OF G-D,then this belief is not according to the Orthodox
Asha''irah and Maturiidiah (May all-h bless them).
Some Of The Extremists of Salfites rigidly declair All Those Who Believe in the Difference THAT
THE ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTES OF G-D and Non Essential Attribites of G-D are Essentially
Different ATTRIBUTES OF G-D,as Heritics Unorthodox.Hetrodox and Out of The Folds Of
Ahlussunnah Wal Jamaah.But they are in Error.
Similarly these denouncers have borrowed this Idea from them and a minute Minority Of
Maturidites.
Majority of Maturidites disagree from the Minute Maturidites.
A small number of Ma''quulites in Subcontinent have declaired KALAAM ALLAF:ZII as Eternal
Which Implies that they Accept it is an Essential Attribute.
But it is ascribed toward Maulvi RAD:A of Baraili in Malfu:zaat thAT HE DENIED THE
DIFFERENCE (T-F-R-Q-H)
B/W KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII and KALAAM 'AN NAFSII.
This thing also appears implictly in Subhaan Assubuuh as well.
There fore one who claims that he /she believes in the Eternity Of either of them actually diagree
from Maulvi Ra:daa of Baraili.Now he/she either have to accept that either he/she is correct or
Maulvi Ra:daa of Baraily is correct but not both.
A very difficult choice indeed.
Finally if it is claimed that Maulvi Ra:daa Of Baraily is right and all those who believe in that
KALAAM 'AL LAF
;ZII AND KALAAM
'AN NAFSII ARE TWO DISTINCT ATTRIBUTES ARE IN eRROR THEN IT BECOMES CLEAR
THAT THAT DENOUNCERS OF THE SELF POSSIBILITY ARE ACTUALLY NEITHER
ASHAA''IRAH NOR MATURIIDIAH.
As Maulivi Ra:daa of Baraili hve declaird all those who belive in the stated Above Distinction AS
IN ERROR, The proper Responce is that These Scolores of ASHAA''IRAH and Maturidiah are not
in Error HE WHO he who declairED them in error is himself in ERROR ,rather in gross error.
Any how if any one use to Target a Person on the Issue pof IMKAAN AL KIDHB then one must
settle the NECESSORY PREREQUISITS Of the problem.
It is likely that his/her own views may be fount against vast Majority of 'ASHAA''IRH and
MMATURIDIAH.He/she who denounce STATED ABOVE SELF POSSIBILITY IS LIKELY TO
DENOUNCEva Vast majority of 'ASHAA''IRAH and MATURIDIAH as incorrect.This proves that
he/she is in coorect himself/herself.
If some one claims that Kalaam 'AL LAF
;ZII IS POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE but is ASSOCIATED WITH (1) DIVINE ESSENCE (THAT IS
NECESSORY IN EXISTENCE I.E IT IS NECESSORY FOR ESSENCE (WAAJIB LIDH DHAAT
INSTEAD IF NECESSORY IN ESSENCE (WJIB BIDH DHAAT),then ask that one to quote at
least two Sunni Theologians and Dialectics of ASHAA''IRAH and MATURIDIAH UNDER THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS IN HIS SUPPORT:-
Condition #1:-
The quotation must be explicit .
Condition#2Iit must Explicitly and Strictly State That KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII is Associated
(Qaa'im/Sustain/Comminucable)With the Essence Of G-D;OR ITmust Explicitly State That
Kalaam 'Al Laf:zi is WAAJIB LIDH DHAAT.
If SOME ONE CLAIMS THATHE/HE BELIEVES IN THE IDENTITY OF kKALAAM ;AL LAF:ZII
AND THE DIVINE SUPPOSITUM OR DIVINE EENCE THE HIM /HER THE FOOLOWING ;''
ANY ONE WHO FOLOW THE Author of SUBHAAN As Subbuuh can not claim thAT klaam
'allaf:zii is identical to the DIVINE ESSENCE OR DIVINE SUPPOSITUM without declairing the
Auther In Error.[2]
IF ONE FAILS TO DO THIS then it is proved with ABSOLUTE CLEARITY that he/she has no
prrof for His Claim.
Losing all hopes to Target or To Trap a Targetor or a TRAPPER is Most Likely ToRepeat
Irrelevent Matterslike ;
a)Your Scholors have written so and so in THEIR WORKS.
b)If G-D HAS Power over A False Statement Then G-D Must Have Power a)TO EAT,b)TO GET
HUNGARY c)TO DO HOMOSEXTUALITY d)TO STEAL OR TO ROB, etc,etc.
This is a clear indication that he has or she has lost the debate and has not thing to responce
properly.Just reply that there is no IMPLICATION B/W THE FALSEHOOD AND ANY ONE OF
THE DEFECTS STATED BY YOU.THERE IS NO IMPLICATION B/W ''TOHAVE POWER OVER
THE FALSE STATMENTS AND ANY ONE OF THE DEFECTS STATED BY YOU.
Finally it may be the case that some believers of Firqah Imtinaa''iah have read this article and
may attempt to responce otherwise.Or try to take the discussions to more deep problems.In such
a case treat them as missionaries and ask them to see THEOLOGIANS OF DENOUNCERS OF
SELF ABSUDUTY OF FALSE STATEMENTS instead of wasting time upon those who have
neither studiesd the theological works of either sects NOUNLY(NAMELY) DENOUNCERS OF
SELF POSSIBILITY AND DENOUNCERS OF SELF ABSUDUTY IN STATEMENTS.
It must be noted that these people are usually programmed beople and have a very restricted
knowlidge of the topic.How ever a nubber of there trainers may have studied the works in more
detail. If this is the case then then Tell him/her that go and Publically challange the Scholors of
our Sect of Ahlussunnah Wal Jamaah in open media ,instead of Targetting and Trapping me who
have not studied the topic.
FOOTNOTE
1) In Enlish the word In is Used with the word Sustain,i.e Sustained in. But the word In implies the
idea of Inclusion which is not intended.SO TO TRANSLATE QAA'IM BI DHAAT AL BAARII may
be translated as ASSOCIATED WITH THE ESSENCE OF G-D, OR SUSTAINED WITH THE
ESSENCE OF G-D INSTEAD OF SUSTAINED IN THE ESSENCE OF G-D SINCE THE WORD
IN CANNOTE THE SENSE OF INCLUSION. NOTE IT THAT ANY THING INCLUDED INTHE
DIVINE ESSENCE IS DIVINE ESSENCE ITSELF. ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTES ARE AIN
ADDITION TO DIVINE ESSENCE I.E LA KHARIJ WALA DAKHIL I.E NEOITHJER EXCLUDES
NOR INCLUDES AS ACCORDING TO FUQHAA AND MUTAKALLI MINDED SUNNIS OF
DEOBAND, BUT IDENTICAL TO SUFI AND PHLOSOPHICAL MINDED ULAMAA OF SUNNIS
OF DEOBAND.
.2)It may please be noted that The Author Of Imtinaa'' 'An NA:ZIIR Believed in the Identity of
Essential Atrributes Of G-D and Divine ESSENCE,while The Author Of Subhaan 'AS SUBBUUH
believed bthat the Attributes Of G-D are QAA
'IM BI DHAT AL BAARII.
Note This article is case sensitive and Upper cases and lower cases are deliberate. they matter.
More articles SHALL BE SOON PRESENTED 'INSHAA'ALLAH