@ColinTGraham Hello everyone, welcome to today's #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:02:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66291801799143424 - #2

@mathfour I tell you, I love #mathchat,, but I get so confused at the topics. What is a "big
idea" anyway? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:02:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66291814910537728 - #3

@ColinTGraham As always, if it is your first time, don't try to follow everything but interact
with one or two people, and remember the hashtag>>#mathchat
hashtag>>
Fri May 06 00:04:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66292143278399488 - #4

@ColinTGraham If your tweets are protected, you may want to unprotect them for an hour
or so... ;-) #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:04:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66292299600109568 - #5

@ColinTGraham Today's topic is "What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in mathematics?"

#mathchat
Fri May 06 00:05:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66292421910216704 - #6

@ColinTGraham So as Bon (@mathfour) asked, (hi y'all!) we probably need to define

what we think "Big Ideas" are before talking about progression #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:08:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293178839474176 - #8

@nykat4 @ColinTGraham what's the topic tonight? #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:08:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293301845835776 - #9

@ColinTGraham @nykat4 Just tweeted it out, but "What is the progression of 'Big Ideas'
in mathematics?" in case you missed it ;-) #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:09:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293511779131392 - #10

@nykat4 @ColinTGraham never mind, saw topic when I scrolled up! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:09:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293549368492032 - #11

@Ideas_Factory @ColinTGraham Agreed!But didn't know you did a 'late night'#mathchat

night'
for continental tweeps-good
good on you!
Fri May 06 00:10:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293620336115712 - #12

@ColinTGraham So, for example, "zero as a place-holder"

place holder" is a big idea (or concept) to
me #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:11:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293884363350016 - #13

@mathfour Are we talking big as in cute Rene and his idea of putting together a couple of
lines? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:11:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66293956773818368 - #14

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @ColinTGraham @Ideas_Factory It's all about spreading the word Julian, there are
enough downers on maths teachers as it is! ;-)
; #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:11:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294054324932608 - #15

@mathfour I like (and think it's big) the idea of commutativity (or non) #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:12:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294199020027904 - #16

@LizDk also ? what is meant by "big ideas": math

math concepts eg fractions, or "big ideas" of
unit (as in UBD) which are not subject specific #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:12:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294259548033024 - #17

@ColinTGraham Just a warning, I may seem slightly distracted today because there's a
huge referendum going on and some major elections too! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:12:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294339327893505 - #18

@mathfour @LizDk UBD? What's that? #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:13:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294383183527936 - #19

@mathfour @ColinTGraham What? What are we talking about? #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:13:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294481380585473 - #20

@LizDk @mathfour Understanding by Design latest unit planning trend invented by

Wiggins-McTighe, very
ry big movement #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:14:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294639098994688 - #21

@ColinTGraham @LizDk We're focusing on mathematics in terms of the 'big ideas'. If you
like, what are the major concepts we need to 'get' ? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:14:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294659135184897 - #22

@MrHonner I agree that commutativity is a big idea--as

idea an
n algebra person, I think in terms
of groups and operations. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:14:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66294791465476096 - #23

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner OK, so can you explain or give an example of

commutativity for those who don't know the 'jargon' #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:15:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295008822702080 - #24

@MrHonner Objects -->

> Operations
Operatio --> Structures -->
> Transformations #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:15:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295059045302272 - #25

@LizDk Concepts of fractions, connection between fractions decimals percents#mathchat

percents
Fri May 06 00:16:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295122165379072 - #26

@mathfour @MrHonner I was totally stoked to study non-commutative

non commutative systems. Worked
on non-comm ringss for my masters. FUN! #mathchat
Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
Fri May 06 00:16:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295148413321216 - #27

@ColinTGraham @mathfour What do your students need to 'get' or understand before

they can move on to the next, more advanced, topic/concept #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:16:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295296107364353 - #28

@mathfour @ColinTGraham @MrHonner Addition is commutative

commutative (2+3=3+2 for all values
of 2 and 3) #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:16:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295310128918529 - #29

@mathfour @ColinTGraham What do students need to get...? Like wrt commutativity?

Algebraic systems? Or just in general? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:17:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295592330072064 - #30

@ColinTGraham @mathfour @MrHonner OK, so for some some operations the result is the
same if you switch the position of the operands... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:17:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295592216838144 - #31

@mathfour @ColinTGraham In general? They should "get" that I'm freaking awesome.
(oh - and narcissistic) #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:18:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295685938552832 - #32

@ColinTGraham @mathfour You forgot to add Texan! ;-) #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:18:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295828611993600 - #33

@LizDk High school: quadratics is cornerstone of algebra. Need to understand link betw
sols & graph, why you can have 0,1,or 2 sols. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:18:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66295850615308288 - #34

@NathalieFytrou RT @MrHonner: Objects --> Operations -->

> Structures -->
Transformations #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:19:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296017020133376 - #35

@MrHonner Operations 'commute' if performing them in diff orders yields same result.
Adding is (2 + 3 = 3+ 2), subtr. isn't: 2-5
2 <> 5-2 #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:19:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296033541492736 - #36

@ColinTGraham @LizDk So maybe the bigger

bigger idea is that algebra can be represented
geometrically and vice versa? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:19:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296070447169537 - #37

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham That was hard to do in 140 - #mathchat characters!

Fri May 06 00:20:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296255478894592 - #38

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner Yes, and students need to get that some of these
properties
roperties or attributes are not universal... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:20:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296278602092544 - #39

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @mathfour @LizDk Ouch - quadratics is cornerstone of algebra. Really? How y'figure?
#mathchat
Fri May 06 00:20:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296350253383680 - #40

@MrHonner @LizDk. Agreed. Inherent connections between algebra and geometry is a

big "big" idea. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:21:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296412861771776 - #41

@LizDk Commutativity comes right back in high school when we look at matrix
multiplication. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:21:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296437046124544
6629 - #42

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner Well done, though! If we can't explain some of these

fundamentals in 140 characters,
s, maybe we need to think again.... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:21:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296495908986880 - #43

@mathfour @MrHonner It might be fun to try to define everything in <=140 -

wow!#mathchat
Fri May 06 00:21:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296560065056768 - #44

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham Right. It wasn't until grad school that I really understood
what it meant for commutativity to fail. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:22:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296744899645440 - #45

@markbethune @LizDk not sure what you mean by this??? I would argue that quadratics
is more geometric than algebraic #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:22:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296846913503232 - #46

@ColinTGraham @mathfour @LizDk To be honest, I'd prefer to teach graphing

gr using
quadratics rather than linear equations... it highlights concept #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:22:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296852613570560 - #47

@mathfour @LizDk This is why I tell parents and students that all math is the same. I
guess you really can say geometry is algebra. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:23:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66296899132600320 - #48

@LizDk @ColinTGraham In adv alg the main idea is link between the algebra and the
graph - comes into domain, range, inverses + more. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:23:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297012630462465
6297012630462465 - #49

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham @mathfour Agreed! It's a fun challenge, and concision is

something teachers should
uld think about all the time. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:23:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297043513118720 - #50

@mathfour @ColinTGraham @LizDk I think everything should be taught with

equation/graph/set - not separate the three. #mathchat
Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
Fri May 06 00:24:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297160559366146 - #51

@ColinTGraham @markbethune @LizDk Quadratic equations are both algebraical and

geometric.... wherein lies the problem if we don't present them so! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:24:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297184756314112 - #52

@LizDk @markbethune I guess it is both. But taught in Alg 1 and Alg 2 courses, right?
Solving, manipulating, discrim is def algebra. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:25:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297381892800512 - #53

@CutTheKnotMath @mathfour @LizDk Wile's proof of FLT is said to belong to arithmetic

algebraic geometry #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:25:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297383784419329 - #54

@mathfour @ColinTGraham @markbethune @LizDk And then consider the set of points
and you've got a nice tri-lesson #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:25:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297430525751298 - #55

@ColinTGraham OK, so we have: zero and place-holding,

place holding, quadratics as a link between
alg/geom, commutivaty.... what other 'big ideas' #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:25:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297506237124608 - #56

@markbethune @ColinTGraham this is true of most maths that we teach at this level.
Without linking
ng the algebra to geometry, kids wont get it #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:25:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297523463131136 - #57

@MrHonner @CutTheKnotMath @mathfour @LizDk Good luck explaining that in 140

characters. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:25:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297564680564736 - #58

@mathfour @ColinTGraham I'm pretty impressed with the ten fingers creating the base
10 system. That's a huge idea. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:26:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297724273827840 - #59

@ColinTGraham @CutTheKnotMath @mathfour @LizDk The order of words there is

important too... Geometry is the 'head' noun.... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:26:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297858151809024 - #60

@mathfour @MrHonner @CutTheKnotMath @LizDk Fermat DID DID explain it in <140 chars
in the margin. Or so he led us to believe for 300 years! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:27:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66297940792197120 - #61

@MrHonner I think the biggest idea, for me anyway, is transformation. Turning one
problem into another, one structure into another, etc. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:27:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66298027089997824 - #62

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @ColinTGraham @mathfour The big concept there was the invention of zero, though.
How often do you teach your kids 0, 1, 2,... do you start 1, 2 #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:28:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66298304891330560 - #63

@markbethune can someone remind me of the topic so I don't get off base?#mathchat
base?
Fri May 06 00:29:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66298482079711232 - #64

@ColinTGraham We mentioned commutativity... how about the other two? Associativity

and Distributability? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:29:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66298610253438976
66298610253438 - #65

@CutTheKnotMath @MrHonner @mathfour @LizDk BTW, what is the smallest integer

that could be described in less than 40 characters? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:29:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66298619095031810 - #66

@MrHonner @CutTheKnotMath @mathfour @LizDk "whatever number you are thinking

of - 1" #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:31:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66298887031361537
662988870313 - #67

@ColinTGraham @mathfour @MrHonner @CutTheKnotMath @LizDk Yeah, as if!

Fermat was what some of us in the North would
would call a blagger! [TX = BSer] #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:31:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299031885840384 - #68

@CutTheKnotMath @mathfour @MrHonner @LizDk BTW, what is the smallest integer

that could be described in less than 140 (sorry) characters? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:31:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299118485643265 - #69

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner Would you accept redefinition

redefinition as another way of describing
what you call transformation? [avoiding terminology problems] #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:32:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299326812532736 - #70

@ColinTGraham @markbethune "What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in mathematics?"

we are defining what we see as the 'Big Ideas' first,
fi Mark. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:33:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299564600209408 - #71

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham Guess I'm using transformation to mean both

"mathematical trans." and the technique of "changing your perspective". #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:34:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299719063838720 - #72

@CutTheKnotMath @MrHonner "whatever number you are thinking of

o - 1" ~ but this was
the number I've been thinking of #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:34:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299802211717120 - #73

@mathfour @ColinTGraham Well, alas, I teach Daughter starting with 0. #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:34:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66299845085888512 - #74

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @ColinTGraham @mathfour That is probably uncommon though, since most parents
probably start
tart with 1 when counting... 0 as a 'Big Idea' is lost #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:36:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300147738488832 - #75

@ColinTGraham @markbethune So what is the big idea here... is it that alg and geom
are linked or that a picture/visualization is important? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:37:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300469470969856 - #76

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner Honner Yes, well I always have problems talking about
differentiation, I have to say I'm not talking about calculus! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:38:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300679177781248
663006791777812 - #77

@mathfour @ColinTGraham I'm really trying to figure out how to "display" negative
numbers so I can teach her to count from -3. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:38:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300747817558016 - #78

@oldak @ColinTGraham @mathfour Don't most kids start counting with their fingers?
Putting all fingers down to represent 0 must be 2ndary. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:38:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300785276895232 - #79

@MrHonner @CutTheKnotMath This reminds me of the chat I had with my niece,which

began with me saying "I think 15,000 is the biggest number". #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:38:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300822576824320 - #80

@halebone Hm, don't look like the arabic num I std in Egypt MT @davidwees: Is this
true? How num 0 - 9 got their shape http://bit.ly/kHUnlt #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:38:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300833704329216 - #81

@ColinTGraham OK, speaking of calculus.... is that a big idea? #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:39:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66300903992475648
663009039924756 - #82

@CutTheKnotMath A really big idea is that, however you count the number of objects in a
group, you always get the same
e result #mathchat well, with a proviso
Fri May 06 00:39:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301032942141440 - #83

@MrHonner What about "modeling" as a 'big idea'? Interpreting, refining, altering,

etc.#mathchat
Fri May 06 00:39:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301110985572352 - #84

@mathfour @ColinTGraham Calculus is dumb. #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:39:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301127263649792 - #85

@ColinTGraham @oldak @mathfour It may be secondary, recognizing oneness and

twoness and threeness etc. is certainly fundamental #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:40:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301182326480896 - #86

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @mathfour @ColinTGraham Okay, maybe calculus isn't dumb, when I calm down. It is
the thing that lets us know that Texas is the biggest. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:40:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301238316244992 - #87

@markbethune @ColinTGraham of course alg and geo are linked but the picture is also
impt for stud at this level. This is essence of tech use #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:40:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301343966568448 - #88

@ColinTGraham @oldak @mathfour However, using zero as a placeholder is a 'huge'

thing in terms of manipulating numbers... It's not intuitive. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:41:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301451235885056 - #89

@mathfour @oldak @ColinTGraham I figured counting on someone else's fingers could

be negatives. Husband didn't agree. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:41:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301494697271296 - #90

@markbethune @ColinTGraham
@ColinTGraham tech allows studs to visuallize the maths. far different
than when I went to school #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:41:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301532005613568 - #91

@LizDk Calculus itself is not a big idea. Idea that we can get the slope at a point for a
curved function by zooming in, is a big idea. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:41:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301571654369280 - #92

@ColinTGraham @mathfour Counting from -3, 3, start with 3 fingers up and take them
down... -3, -2, -1,
1, 0, then start putting fingers up => directed #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:42:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66301815796416512 - #94

@mathfour @ColinTGraham I like it! #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:43:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302014048579584 - #95

@ColinTGraham @CutTheKnotMath You do need to assume a 'counting system' or

base... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:43:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302066708070402 - #96

@mathfour RT @CutTheKnotMath:
@CutTheKnotMath: A really big idea is that, however you count the
number of objects in a group, you always get the same result #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:44:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302172605845504
663021726058455 - #97

@MrHonner @LizDk @mathfour S. Strogatz describes calculus as piecing together the

continuous from discrete snapshots, as a film. Big idea! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:44:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302226397806592 - #98

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner Modeling is more about methodology or teaching practice,

unless you are suggesting construction of mathematical models? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:44:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302294148399104 - #99

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @ColinTGraham @mathfour It also supports the mathematician's
mathematician's jargon of "directed
number" when talking about +ve and -ve integers etc. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:45:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302559954010112 - #100

@oldak @ColinTGraham @mathfour Hold up both hands, palms out as a number line?
Right hand: 1 (thumb) to 5 (pinkie), left: -1 (thumb)... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:46:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302673342828544 - #101

@CutTheKnotMath @ColinTGraham You do need to assume a 'counting system' or

base... Why? Just state consistent #mathchat Important that magnitude exists
Fri May 06 00:46:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302686907203584 - #102

@ColinTGraham @markbethune I think that visualization is a 'big idea', and probably

proba
linked to recognizing numbers of things... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:47:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66302969032880128 - #103

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham I'm thinking of modeling as the way one interacts with a
problem--how
how to interpret, represent, and solve it. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:48:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66303161517875200 - #104

@ColinTGraham @oldak @mathfour That would work too, the underlying idea being that
numbers have a position AND a direction maybe? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:48:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66303207604887553 - #105

@ColinTGraham @CutTheKnotMath The concept of magnitude, what I referred to as

oneness, twoness, etc. is certainly very important/big idea #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:49:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66303490850430976 - #106

@CutTheKnotMath @ColinTGraham what I referred to as oneness, twoness, etc. ~ I am

prepared to share the laurels #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:50:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66303799245029376 - #107

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner OK, that's maybe a combination of defining a problem in

many ways and visualizing. It may be farther along... #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:50:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66303810716446720 - #108

@teachersharetp RT @kbkonnected: 60+ math sites for making math

fun!http://bit.ly/i4DLqg #mathchat #spedchat #elemchat #edchat
Fri May 06 00:51:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304060378189825 - #109

@earlsamuelson @mathfour I like showing negative

negative numbers as transformations
themselves! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:51:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304107165646848 - #110

@ColinTGraham @CutTheKnotMath ;-) ; ) Grouping like and separating unlike as part of

defining or noticing patterns is a big idea too, maybe! #mathchat
Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
Fri May 06 00:51:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304148617961472 - #111

@ColinTGraham TBH, if I had my way, either the coordinate system would be reversed,
or twenty-one
one would be written as 12...! #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:53:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304605591580672 - #112

@oldak @CutTheKnotMath @ColinTGraham Isn't concept of "1ness" fundamental, where

"2ness", "3ness", etc... are 2nd order? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:53:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304619395035136 - #113

@LiveBinders RT @kbkonnected: 60+ math sites for making math fun!http://bit.ly/i4DLqg

fun!
#mathchat #spedchat #elemchat #edchat
Fri May 06 00:54:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304676215271425
66304 - #114

@ColinTGraham @oldak @CutTheKnotMath You could argue that. There is the one, two,
several approach, too. The key point is the grouping, though #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:55:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66304929568006144 - #116

@MrHonner How big an idea do you think "infinity" is? #mathchat

Fri May 06 00:55:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305153669677058 - #117

@ColinTGraham OK, five minutes to go and we haven't even defined all of the 'Big Ideas'
let alone the progression... ;-) #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:56:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305218878513152 - #118

@ColinTGraham Hmm, is infinity bigger than zero, as big as zero or... ;-)
; RT @MrHonner:
How big an idea do you think "infinity" is? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:56:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305420309962752 - #119

@CutTheKnotMath @MrHonner what I referred to as oneness, twoness, etc. ~ Which

one? #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:57:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305595698982912 - #120

@mathfour Sorry y'all. Daughter's losing her

her mind not wanting to go to sleep without
Husband to tuck her in. #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:58:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305872057466880 - #121

@CutTheKnotMath @MrHonner How big an idea do you think "infinity" is? ~ Which one?
#mathchat
Fri May 06 00:59:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305955524120576 - #122

@mathfour @ColinTGraham This is definitely a fun topic, though!

thou #mathchat
Fri May 06 00:59:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66305964944535552 - #123

@ColinTGraham OK, to summarize... commutativity, quadratics as basis for algebra,

grouping=>counting, zero as placeholder, infinity, calculus #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:00:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306189323010048 - #124

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?
 @oldak @ColinTGraham When you say that an "idea" is "big", what property does that
magnitude represent? #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:00:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306377370443776 - #125

@MrHonner @CutTheKnotMath Seems like you agree that infinity is a big idea.#mathchat
idea.
Fri May 06 01:00:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306387080261632 - #126

@ColinTGraham visualization, modeling (combining visualization with redefining

problems), anything
ing else to add to the list before we end? ;-)
; #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:01:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306493036756992 - #127

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham @mathfour I agree: a fun topic, but hard to get a grasp on.
#mathchat
Fri May 06 01:01:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306562582515712 - #128

@CutTheKnotMath @MrHonner Seems like you agree that infinity is a big idea. I do;
d all
of them #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:01:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306608187179008 - #129

@ColinTGraham @oldak Ah, well given that we didn't get on to discussing progression of
ideas, getting into the sematics of 'Big' may be tricky! #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:02:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66306772209631232 - #130

@ColinTGraham Well, I guess today's topic has got us

us all beat! Just for a change...
thanks for your contributions, once again! #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:03:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66307097670860800 - #131

@ColinTGraham We'll see how we get on with this on Monday, when we come back to it!
#mathchat
Fri May 06 01:04:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66307309927804929 - #132

@MrHonner Thanks, @ColinTGraham, and others. Maybe we'll solve this on

Monday's#mathchat.
Fri May 06 01:05:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66307464097824769 - #133

@ColinTGraham You can vote on next week's topic http://bit.ly/e72g8r (yes, already!) if
you like... and today's archive should be online by Sat. #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:06:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66307802095824896 - #134

@ColinTGraham BTW, if you like the format of the archives now, let me know... I may go
back and 'tart up' some older ones too! #mathchat
Fri May 06 01:08:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 66308324840312832 - #135

Friday, 6th May 2011 What is the progression of 'Big Ideas' in Mathematics?