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From: G. H. Schorel-Hlavka <schorel-hlavka@schorel-hlavka.com>

To: Darryl O'Bryan <darryloflife@optusnet.com.au> Cc: mayJUSTICEalwaysPREVAIL@schorel-hlavka.com, Tony.Abbott.MP@aph.gov.au, R.McClelland.MP@aph.gov.au Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011 04:09 pm Subject: Re: How to really resolve the refugee dilemma - Re: MY COMMENT - Fwd: Truth about Malaysia Deal Attachments: Text version of this message. (25KB)

Darryl, there are numerous different categories of so to say refugees/over stayers. . There are those coming by plane and are sent back by the airliner when refused entry from the point they came from. There are those who come on a visitors visa and so to disappear in Australia. When located they will refuse to leave having set up family relationships including children. . There are those who lost their right to stay in Australia due to criminal convictions. . There are those who come by boar via people smugglers. . There are others who use other ways. like hiding on board planes (at times found freezed to death in the wheel compartment) and those hiding on board of ships, etc. .We should have one rule for all of them and that is when they are located, wherever, they are handed over to the United Nations and it alone deal with refugees. Each refugee will be given an identification number and will be classified by the UN by date of arrival. Hence, for any refugee, wherever in the world, the aim is to be as quick as possible in a UN camp as the date is relevant to when one is recommended for settlement in any country. Then the refugee can elect to follow language courses, etc, of the country desired to settle in, obviously the country concerned has the last word to determine if the person once recommended is acceptable (security clearance, etc). The element of traveling to the Commonwealth of Australia is totally removed because a person traveling from say Iraq to Turkey would do better to report there to the UN as the date is critical for them. If the person reports there and then moves on to Indonesia and then take a boat to Australia then he will be handed over to the UN and the UN will cancel the date of the Turkey registration and allocate a new date when now admitted. Hence, it is adverse to a person to leave a UN camp. . Say, we both leave Iraq, as Iraq nationals, and you decide to register in Turkey and stay there while I spend thousands of dollars to get to Indonesia, register there some 4
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weeks later and then move by boat to Australia only to be returned to Indonesia or to any other camp in the world under authority of the UN and given a complete new registration date and then say placed in the same UN camp as you are all along. Then my registration date of the last arrival date will mean I be many weeks after you. It is a disincentive therefore to travel around the globe. With this system you not only remove the incentive of people smuggling but also makes it to make it more attractive to stay put in a UN camp. If the UN moves a person from camp top camp then this will not affect the registration date. As such the UN will keep full control over who enters and who will be recommended for settlement. . Where then the UN recommend a person for settlement then nit will provide the relevant country with a copy of the files of that person so the country allocated for this can make its own security and other assessments as it pleases to accept or reject the person. .It means that regardless if the ?refugee? has a lot of money or not will make not one of iota difference because the date allocated with registration will determine who will first be recommended for settlement. It means if a widow with 5 children is in the refugee camp for the longest period then she and her children will be recommended for settlement! As such, refugees will not have to resort to crimes, etc, to try to make a way of getting monies to get to Australia because the system will avoid the usage monies for this. . Because refugees may be in a refugee camp anywhere in the world possibly for some years then they can prove they are fair dinkum refugees by learning the language of the country they prefer to settle. As such, we will improve the abil8ity of refugees who settle with being reasonable competent to speak the language and assimilate within Australia?s society. . Moreover, it will be less of a social burden upon us. . We will have the ultimate determination as to who we accept to settle! .We will avoid the sinking of refugee boats and so the death of many because it all will be organised. . The UN sets the conditions of refugees being held and so let it then comply with its own conditions and care for all refugees around the world. . It means that refugees that escape from a war torn country say to a country in the Middle East merely have to travel to any UN camp nearest to this war torn country
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and still have the same opportunity to settle in Australia then those who come from any other country. . No more people hiding in plane wheel compartment freezing to death because all they need to do is to go to the nearest UN camp to register. . No more placing refugees in detention camps of countries pending the particular human rights compliance because the UN will as like any embassy in the world be operating as a sovereign entity in any country to care for those seeking shelter. . No more clogging up our courts with if a person is or is not a refugee because the UN will manage all this. . No more distractions as to the conditions of refugees because it will be the UN who will care for them. . No more one country letting refugees go to another country so as to safe itself the care of refugees because the cost of caring for refugees will not be burdened upon any particular country but will be from UN general funding. . Why indeed would Indonesia want to stop the boat smugglers where they get rid of so called refugees and so safe a lot of money? .If however the UN is funded from general UN revenue then all countries are contributing to this and then the incentive of any country to get rid of refugees is taken away for this also. . Ok you slipped out of the UN camp in turkey and managed to use a false passport and arrived by plain in Australia and now are hiding. Well, eventually you are caught and the authorities simply transport you to the nearest UN camp then then you get your new date registration and risk never being permitted to come back to reside in Australia because of your conduct. As such even if you are held to be a genuine refugee your conduct to slip in under false identity will be against you. Also you lost the original registration date and so now a long time behind the original date, perhaps years. . What we will achieve is to reduce the amount of lawyers now engaged in refugee cases (Don?t be a bleeding heart about that will you? ). We will reduce the public servants work force by this also as a lot of less work will needed to be done.

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The UN will have ample of time to research each persons status and may even use eye scanning and finger printing to identify each person., and as such all this will no longer cause any delay in processing a person recommended by the UN as a refugee to be accepted by any country other then the normal security clearances needed. .Currently it is that many boat refugees are throwing their identity papers overboard as to prevent quick establishment of their identity, and many claiming to be children even so appearing to be more like 30 or 40 years old. It are those engaged in this kind of conduct who clearly are undermining the rights of genuine refugees. They are the once seeking to misuse the system for their own ulterior purposes. . You cannot lay the blame upon authorities wanting to establish the true identity of people and my wife herself having been a refugee (with her late husband and child) escaping from a communist country more than 40 years ago know too well what it is to leave everything behind. . She travelled to the nearest country and then applied to be allowed to enter Australia and this was then subsequently permitted. Both were sentence to a term of imprisonment after their escape for having escaped by the country they escaped from, albeit when communism fell (about 10 years later) so went their political convictions! . It is wrong to take it that people are against refugees because of opposing them to come by boats or otherwise to Australia, as what is required is that they do so in an orderly manner. John Howard decided not to do so but use the off shore processing instead of implementing what I have set out above. Kevin Rudd likewise failed to do so and Julia Gillard again, this, even so what I have proposed for so many years is the most humane manner of dealing with refugees. .Doing this it means it makes not one iota difference if Malaysia is or isn?t participating in any human rights provisions because any refugee that arrives there also will be handed over to the UN. The UN will be able to move people around from camps as it deems appropriate and so also to ensure that people of a certain climate can possibly stay in this kind of climate while awaiting placement. . In the Dutch armed forces one is given a registration number of the date of birth followed by a number. The UN could use a simular kind of registration albeit instead of the date of birth first use the date of registration followed by a number and then the date of birth, if any is known. . Say you arrived in turkey on 5 March 2011 and were the 453rd person to arrive and your date of birth is 12-07-1953 then your Un registration would be as follows . 20110305-000453-19530712M (Male I assume)
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. Say you left Turkey UN camp and travelled to Australia via boat and then reregistered on 17 August 2011 then your new registration number will be 20110817000453-19530712M . Bad luck you now are further down the line. . Because children will be generally with an adult the registration of a child if arriving with the parent will be identical to the registration date albeit will be slightly different then the arrival number. . Even if a child is arriving prior to or after the parent (as this can eventuate) then the registration of the child can be say as follows (if you had your child arriving with you in Australia and it is a boy both say 10-4-2002 . 20110817-000454-20020410-MC. . Because the letter ?C? was added it means that the child arrived as a child. In this manner irrespective when the child arrive3d, being perhaps months later then the parent, for purpose of any placement the child will be having the same placement right as the parent to ensure the family remains united. It also means that if a child arrives at a refugee camp and it is apparent one of both of the parents are already placed in say Australia then the UN will immediately notify the Australian authorities of the whereabouts of the child and seek immediate placement. Therefore the system will enhance reuniting families as such. . .20110817-000454-20020410-MCD. . Because of children in special needs such as disabled children we could for this also use the letter ?D? meaning that if your child was disabled the UN could provide certain priority to ensure the child is not left to live in a UN camp without the special facilities that may be needed but rather with the ?D? classification could abridge the time of waiting for special reasons and a country that has special facilities for such a child may then immediately accept the child for settlement with any parent(s) that may be with the child. . Obviously the system could be improved even further but essentially what I have been proposing for many years but so far rejected, albeit Julia Gillard with her East Timor proposal was to some extend going towards what I had recommended to her, but at least I view what I prose as a system is better than any I am aware of ever existed or is contemplated otherwise. .
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We remove the burden of any country to finance at huge cost those arriving while others get rid of them. We maintain the sovereignty of every country as again the UN will as like embassies have their own allocated area which will be fully under UN control and is as if being a country on its own. . Refugees should not be a political issue and can be avoided to be so if just we all were to embrace what I have for so long proposed. Currently it appears we lack the political competence and willpower to apply this kind of system and instead we have ended up Australians to be battling each other and incurring huge cost in the process and getting no results. We need to unite as being one, all Australians, and we may then just manage to pull it off what political leaders so far were unable to do or didn?t want to do as while they are so to say screaming blue murder about refugees in reality their concern may just to maintain this rot for their own political gain. . Gerrit . Mr G. H. Schorel-Hlavka . 10-9-2011
(Snail) Mail to: Mr G. H. Schorel-Hlavka MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL 107 Graham Road, Viewbank, Vic 3084, Australia Email: inspector-rikati@schorel-hlavka.com See also Http://www.scribd.com/InspectorRikati (Also to download documents) & Http://www.schorel-hlavka.com CONSTITUTIONALIST & Author of books in the INSPECTOR-RIKATI series on certain constitutional and other legal issues. . Reclaim our constitutional and other legal rights and hold parliamentarians and judges legally accountable. . A GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE! . INSPECTOR-RIKATI & What is the -Australian way of life- really. A book on CD on Australians political, religious & other rights ISBN 0-9751760-2-1 . Notification: THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS FORWARDED WITHOUT PREJUDICE Self-Help for Pro Se and Pro Per Litigants - Lawsuit Self-Help Step-by-Step -----Original Message----From: Darryl O'Bryan [mailto:darryloflife@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:38 PM To: mayJUSTICEalwaysPREVAIL@schorel-hlavka.com Subject: Re: Re: MY COMMENT - Fwd: Truth about Malaysia Deal

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Gerrit But how do you know who or where a person is from when they come by plane amongst many others. The only thing that stands boat people out is the fact that they are in the middle of the ocean all alone and heading for our shores and then they are discriminated against and held against their will in detention. There is no alarm bells going off when people come in as a tourist or as a refugee on a plane. We need to set up a diplomatic core that goes to the countries were these people are from and using the media to bring about public awareness and then encourage good people here to go to these countries to help bring about a better way of life. Quite often it is just a breakdown in
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government infrastructure that is causing all of these problems overseas and we have an obligation to bypass the UN whom are clearly not doing their job and fix the problems by utilising the vast knowledge we have here. There are people in this country whom I am sure would love to go and lend a helping hand, one of the World's biggest problems is too much reliance on Government of all colours. Darryl > G. H. Schorel-Hlavka wrote: > > Darryl, > the fact that I merely in an email refer to the once coming by boat > doesn't mean I am ignoring others as I have time and time again referred > to them all. > . > Anyone coming in or overstaying should be handed over to the UN and let > them sort it out who is or isn't a refugee, etc. > . > Gerrit > . > Mr G. H. Schorel-Hlavka > . > 9-9-2011 > . > > (Snail) Mail to: > Mr G. H. Schorel-Hlavka > MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL > 107 Graham Road, Viewbank, Vic 3084, Australia > > Email: inspector-rikati@schorel-hlavka.com > > See also Http://www.scribd.com/InspectorRikati (Also to download > documents) & Http://www.schorel-hlavka.com > > CONSTITUTIONALIST & Author of books in the INSPECTOR-RIKATI series on > certain constitutional and other legal issues. > . > Reclaim our constitutional and other legal rights and hold > parliamentarians and judges legally accountable. > . > A GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE! > . > INSPECTOR-RIKATI & What is the -Australian way of life- really. > A book on CD on Australians political, religious & other rights > ISBN 0-9751760-2-1 > . > Notification: > THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS FORWARDED WITHOUT PREJUDICE > > Self-Help for Pro Se and Pro Per Litigants - Lawsuit Self-Help > Step-by-Step - Jurisdictionary > -----Original Message----- > From: Darryl O'Bryan [mailto:darryloflife@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 03:53 PM > To: mayJUSTICEalwaysPREVAIL@schorel-hlavka.com > Subject: Re: MY COMMENT - Fwd: Truth about Malaysia Deal > > Gerrit You are not taking into account the many who come through the > airports. Darryl > G. H. Schorel-Hlavka wrote: > > When John Howard was > still in power I then recommended that all refugees > or so called > refugees would be handed over to the UN and for them to > sort it out > and we then would accept as refugees those who were the > longest in > refugee camps and who had learned the English language and > culture of > Australia. Then John Howard ignored it. Now, in recent days, > I noticed > John Howard on ABC Lateline basically wanting to have done > what I > recommended years ago to him. If just he had done it then we > would not > now be in the "shit" as we have while our own are sleeping in > cars and > under bridges, etc. We must stop this rot of the influx of > people not > as to what we hold desirable but what others now dictate upon > us we > must accept. > We have a constitution and the Ah Toy Privy Council > decision to ensure > we can determine who will be permitted to enter the > Commonwealth of > Australia and we must do this as otherwise the drips > of boats will be > floods and then a tsunami and then we will be overrun > and it be too late > to stop it all. > This has got nothing to do with > being against any particular race or any > particular religion as what > it is that we as Australians have the right > to determine who will be > permitted to come to reside amongst us and it > always must be as such. > > We cannot have that Julia Gillard interest to clinch to power > overrides > our "national security" and for this she is giving in to the > likes of > Bob Brown, etc. > She is obviously incompetent if not totally > incompetent to perform as > she should and therefore we must pursue a > change of Government to one > that will have "national security" as a > priority. > "national security" is not and never could be the purported > "War on > terror" because that is a fictitious term with no real > constitutional > meaning or application and only used by governments to > instil their own > kind of terrorism upon
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the very people they have to > serve. > Our constitution has given us the legislative powers to protect > > ourselves but what we need is a government to act in accordance with > our > constitution and will foremost look after its own citizens rather > rather > then after its own selfinterest to stay in power. > .The time > has come to now maintain vigilance and ongoing protest and a > deluge of > writings to the government and other Ministers to drive it > home that > we take it no more. If we fail then we fail not only ourselves > but > also our descendants and also our predecessors who fought to provide > > us with the freedom and security we now enjoy. > .We can either join the > cowards who do not have the stamina to stand up > for their rights or we > will be the once who will be joining ranks and > ensure that this rot > will not continue. > .The question is obviously on which side are you > standing? > .Just don?t take too long to decide because time is running > out very > fast! > .Gerrit > .Mr G.H. Schorel-Hlavka > .9-9-2011 > . > > > . > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Admin > [mailto:admin@freestatevoice.com.au] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 > 08:27 AM > To: 'TRUTH SEEKERS' > Subject: FW: Truth about Malaysia Deal > > > > > > > > > > > Had this send today and wonder why nothing in the > news?? ? No one > mentions > the feed of money by the Australian > Companies that carry Muslim emblem > on the packaging under the umbrella > to entice Muslims to buy Australian > products??????????? Some of us > being made homeless by the Labour > Government. > How many homeless > Australians are in our cities right now. All in the > interest > of > Globalisation by the ?Parliamentarians for Global Action? and ?G20? ? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > We NEED an election as soon as possible for the good of the > country!! > > > > > > > THESE ARE THE FACTS: > > > > The Australian > Labour Government will send 800 The cost will be around > 350 + million > for this deal. > THAT = $87,500.00 per Muslim per year. > > > > Your > Government using our taxes to pay for the 800, their accommodation, > > schooling, medical care and > day to day living expenses whilst in > Malaysia waiting for processing to > return to Australia . > > > > Our > Government has promised them a 2-year turn around back to Australia > to > convince these > illegal immigrants to get on a plane to Malaysia . > > > > > > These Muslims are going on a 2-year all expenses paid holiday at > the > Australian Taxpayers expense. > > > > The 4000 illegal immigrants > we are getting will be 4000 of the worst > radical and troublemakers in > Malaysia . They will be pulled out of their > jails and other places to > be sent to Australia . > > > > > Our GOVERNMENT HAS NO CHOICE OR SAY WHO > COMES TO AUSTRALIA AS IT IS JUST > PART OF THE DEAL. MALAYSIA WILL PICK > THE 4000. > > > > Taxpayer?s money will be used for charted flights for > the 800 to go to > Malaysia and the 4000 coming to Australia . > > > > > > The 4000 illegal Muslim immigrants, when they come to Australia will go > > strait into FREE public housing > and on welfare payments including > all the Government benefits that other > Australians don?t get. THIS > WILL INCLUDE A HARDSHIP ALLOWANCE PAYMENT. > WHY I DON'T KNOW !!!!!! > > > > > > The 4000 illegal Muslim immigrants under your Governments family > > migration policy will be able to sponsor their children, fathers and > > mothers, aunties and uncles and other family members at the taxpayer?s > > expense to Australia . > > > > > THEREFORE THE 4000 WILL BECOME AROUND > 20,000 ILLEGAL MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS > WITHIN 2 YEARS. > > > > All the > 20,000 will be living in FREE public housing and on welfare > payments. > > > > HOW ON GOD'S EARTH CAN WE SAY THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR AUSTRALIA ? > > > > > HOW IS HAVING MORE MUSLIMS IN AUSTRALIA GOOD FOR US TAXPAYERS OR > > AUSTRALIA > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD FOR US AUSTRALIAN TAXPAYERS TO PAY > THESE MUSLIMS MORE > MONEY AND BENEFITS THAN OUR AGED PENSIONERS WHO > BUILT AUSTRALIA ? > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD FOR THE POORER AUSTRALIANS TO > LIVE IN CARS, CARDBOARD > BOXES AND RUBBISH BINS WAITING FOR PUBLIC > HOUSING WHILE ALL THESE > ILLEGAL MUSLIMS ARE
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IN ALL THE AVAILABLE > PUBLIC HOUSES? > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD FOR AUSTRALIA TO HAVE THESE 800 > ILLEGAL BOAT PEOPLE > TO HAVE AN ALL EXPENSES PAID HOLIDAY TO MALAYSIA > AT THE TAXPAYERS > EXPENSE? > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD FOR AUSTRALIA TO HAVE > THESE DANGEROUS MUSLIMS PLANNING > HOW TO DESTROY AUSTRALIA AND OUR WAY > OF LIFE, WHICH THEY HATE? > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD FOR AUSTRALIA TO HAVE > THESE MUSLIMS TAKING A HUGE PART OF > YOUR WELFARE BUDGET WHEN THEY > DON?T WORK OR PAY TAX? > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD FOR AUSTRALIA TO HAVE > THESE MUSLIMS WANTING TO HAVE THEIR > OWN ISLAMIC LAWS, SCHOOLS, MOSQUES > AND WANTING ALL AUSTRALIAN TO CONVERT > TO ISLAM? > > > > HOW IS IT GOOD > FOR AUSTRALIA TO BE TOLD BY THE UN AND BOB BROWN ALL THE > TIME WHAT WE > SHOULD DO ABOUT OUR MUSLIM PROBLEM? > > > > > > SUGGESTION !! > > > When > the boats come here, have the captain and crew charged and jailed > for > people smuggling. A long jail sentence of 7 to 10 years as this will > > be a deterrent to other people smugglers. > > > Then fly the boat people > back to their own country. We spend over $400 > million to build the > detention centre on Christmas Island and many 100's > of millions > building centres to keep them and giving them things that > many > Australian can only dream about. The Muslims destroy the centres on > a > regular basis, which costs us taxpayers many millions of dollars to > > repair it. Then we repair it again and again. > > > Now our government > is going to build another centre near Darwin at a > cost of over 90 > million and 70 million to run it per year. Is this a > joke on us > taxpayers? > > > Or is this Government just saying, " welcome to all > Muslims !". > > > LET'S TAKE SOME REAL ACTION TO STOP THESE ILLEGAL > MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS > COMING TO AUSTRALIA TO EXPLOIT OUR WELFARE SYSTEM. > STOP THE SPIN AND > LIES. > > > Imbeciles are running this country and > ruining it for generations to > come! > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, > version of virus > signature database 6448 (20110908) __________ > > The > message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com/ > > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > (Snail) Mail to: > Mr G. H. > Schorel-Hlavka > MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL > 107 Graham Road, > Viewbank, Vic 3084, Australia > > Email: > inspector-rikati@schorel-hlavka.com > > See also > Http://www.scribd.com/InspectorRikati (Also to download > documents) & > Http://www.schorelhlavka.com > > CONSTITUTIONALIST & Author of books in > the INSPECTOR-RIKATI series on > certain constitutional and other > legal issues. > . > Reclaim our constitutional and other legal rights > and hold > parliamentarians and judges legally accountable. > . > A > GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE! > . > INSPECTOR-RIKATI & What > is the -Australian way of life- really. > A book on CD on Australians > political, religious & other rights > ISBN 0-9751760-2-1 > . > > Notification: > THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS FORWARDED WITHOUT PREJUDICE > > > Self-Help for Pro Se and Pro Per Litigants Lawsuit Self-Help > > Step-by-Step - Jurisdictionary

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